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4/29/2025
Anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Stacey Slater, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining Bricksmoor's first quarter conference call. With me on the call today are Jim Taylor, Chief Executive Officer, Brian Finnegan, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Steve Gallagher, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Mark Horgan, Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer will also be available for Q&A. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that some of our comments today may contain forward-looking statements that are based on certain assumptions and are subject to inherent risks and uncertainties. As described in our SEC filings, an actual future result may differ materially. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Also, we will refer today to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Further information regarding the use of these measures and reconciliations of these measures to our GAAP results are available in the earnings release and supplemental disclosure on the Investor Relations portion of our website. Given the number of participants on the call, we kindly ask that you limit your questions to one per person. If you have additional questions, please re-queue. At this time, it's my pleasure to introduce Jim Taylor.
Thanks, Stacey, and good morning, everyone. The unique strength and durability of our all-weather value-added plan truly came through again this quarter, positioning us for continued outperformance, particularly in the face of the consuming tariff uncertainty and the increased potential for an economic slowdown. Consider for a moment how we continue to generate robust new and renewal activity and leasing spreads, which Brian will cover in more detail, demonstrating not only the tenant demand to be in our well-located centers, but also the importance of our low rent basis. We capitalized on recent tenant disruption to bring in better tenants at better rents, driving growth in our in-legal leasing pipeline. In fact, we are now at least or LOI in over two-thirds of the recently recaptured bankruptcy space at phenomenal spreads. We continue to capture outside share of new store openings in our core categories of grocery, specialty grocery, quick-serve restaurants, and value apparel retailers with vibrant tenants that are growing and outperforming even in this environment. On a real-time basis, our centers continue to drive compelling -over-year traffic growth, reflecting the transformative impact of our reinvestment and, importantly, the strength of our underlying tenant performance. And we continue to deliver our reinvestment projects on time and on budget at very compelling returns while also backfilling our active pre-lease pipeline with exciting grocery projects that will completely transform the centers impacted. Importantly, as we look ahead into 25 and 26, we remain very confident in our ability to continue to outperform. Consider the forward visibility on growth provided by our S&O pipeline, which remained at 60 million or 6% of total in-place ABR despite commencing 14 million of new ABR in the quarter. This stacking of commenced rents, which Steve will address in more detail, combined with the level of our S&O pipeline, provides significant growth momentum through 25 and into 26. And, as I mentioned before, our robust, in-legal leasing pipeline provides even further visibility on growth into 26 and beyond. Consider the virtual lack of new supply of open-air retail in our market, which continues to help us drive growth and improvement in intrinsic terms with our tenants. And, finally, consider the strength, resiliency, diversification, and credit profile of our key tenants. We also expect that this volatility in the capital markets may present some interesting growth opportunities for well-capitalized market-leading platforms such as Bricksmore. As Steve will cover in a minute, we've kept our powder dry, reduced leverage in the quarter to five and a half times that of a dot, and have over $1.3 billion in revolver capacity and cash on hand, with no maturities until June of 26. In sum, I truly like how well we are positioned to deliver despite an increasingly volatile landscape, one which we think will bring some compelling and exciting opportunities. With that, I'll turn the call over to Brian and then Steve for a more detailed discussion of our results. Brian?
Thanks, Jim, and good morning, everyone. Our team is off to a great start in 2025, quickly addressing recently recaptured space and adding to our pipeline with tenants that continue to thrive in this environment, while capitalizing on the embedded -to-market opportunity that remains a trademark of the Bricksmore portfolio. During the quarter, our team executed on 1.3 million square feet of new and renewal leases at a blended cash spread of 21%. With spreads on new leases at 48%, and renewal staying strong at 14%. The activity during the quarter included backfills of recently recaptured Big Lots boxes with the likes of Ross Dress for Less and Burlington Stores, putting our resolved Big Lots locations at 75% of our total exposure at the time of the filing at spreads of more than 50%. The recapture of the remaining Big Lots and Party City boxes during the quarter resulted in a decline in occupancy to 94.1%. And while we do expect additional occupancy pressure in the second quarter, as we recapture additional space from Joanne, as Jim noted, we're well on our way to addressing these boxes as well with better tenants at higher rents. We also continue to add -in-class grocers to the portfolio during the quarter. Kicking off redevelopments in Broward County, Florida and Westchester County, New York, with Publix and Sprouts respectively, bringing our in-process reinvestment pipeline to 391 million at a weighted average 10% return, with several years of compelling opportunities still in front of us. In addition, our team stabilized 28 million of reinvestment projects during the quarter, including the opening of the company's first new BJ's Wholesale Club location in suburban Tampa. We remain encouraged by the depth of demand of categories led by grocery and off-price apparel within our new leasing pipeline, which at the end of the quarter was up 30% in GLA over the same period last year and currently sits at the highest level in nearly two years, at rents that are 43% above our in-place rent of $17.94 per square foot. The traffic-generating, well-capitalized retailers that continue to grow with us are joining a defensive portfolio with the strongest underlying credit profile we have ever had. As Jim noted, we're well positioned to navigate whatever potential disruption that may be a result of the recent volatility. Time and again, our team has proven that disruption creates opportunity. Which can be seen in nearly every observable metric. We're grateful to the Bricksmore team for their continued focus and for their work in continuing the transformation of our portfolio. With that, I'll hand the call over to Steve for a more detailed review of our financial results as well as guidance. Steve?
Thanks, Brian. I'm pleased to report on a strong start to 2025. As we have discussed on prior calls, the size of our signed but not commenced pool over the past few years and the resulting stacking of rent commencements provides visibility into growth as we navigate through recent bankruptcies and changes in economic policy. And when combined with our pre-leased reinvestment pipeline, which is self-funded on a leverage-neutral basis with free cash flow, we are well positioned to continue executing on our value added business plan. NaverEat FFO was $0.56 per share in the first quarter driven by same property NOI growth of .8% despite a 160 basis point drag from tenant disruption. Base rent growth contributed 410 basis points to same property NOI growth. As the impact of the $63 million of ABR recommenced in 2024, FAR exceeded the 175 basis point drop in built occupancy year over year related to recent bankruptcies. As previewed on last quarter's call, revenue seemed uncollectible detracted from same property NOI growth due to a difficult comparison as a result of the timing of annual real estate tax reconciliation collected from cash basis tenants in the prior year. As Brian noted, we continue to see strong demand from retailers to locate in our centers and have made substantial progress in leasing space recaptured in bankruptcy. As such, we ended the first quarter with a 410 basis point spread between lease and build occupancy and our signed but not yet commenced pool totaled $60 million, which includes $52 million of net new rent. We expect to commence $48 million or 79% of this ABR rattlebly through the remainder of 2025. From a balance sheet perspective, we utilized existing cash on hand and proceeds from $400 million in bonds issued in March at .2% to repay the remaining $630 million of our February bond maturity. At March 31st, we had $1.4 billion of available liquidity, no remaining debt maturities until June 2026, and our debt to EBITDA was 5.5 times, providing us flexibility as we execute on our business plan. Subsequent to quarter end, with the strong support of our bank group, we amended our $1.75 billion unsecured credit facilities, improving pricing and extending the maturities. In terms of our forward outlook, we have affirmed our same property NOI growth guidance of .5% to .5% and our FFO guidance of $2.19 to $2.24. We still expect revenue deemed uncollectible in 2025 within our historical run rate of 75 to 110 basis points of total revenues. We expect base rent to accelerate into the second half of the year as we commence rent from the snow pipeline. The vast majority of our 2025 forecasted ABR is executed, and leasing efforts during the remainder of the year will, as normal, mainly contribute to 2026 and 2027 commencements. To reiterate Jim and Brian's remarks, our portfolio today is well positioned to grow through the disruption that has significantly decreased our exposure to watch list tendency. While improving our centers with better tenants at better rent. And with that, I turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.
Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. We ask that in the interest of time, you limit yourself to one question. You may then rejoin the question queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star key. Your first question comes from Todd Thomas with Key Bank Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks. Good morning. I wanted to ask about the sequential decrease in the portfolio's lease rate and the bankrupt tenants. Appreciate some of the commentary in your remarks. I'm curious, was there any exposure to big lots or party city at quarter end? And then in terms of Joanne, are you expecting that space to fully vacate during the quarter? And maybe you can tie all of that -to-date activity into the 100 basis points you assumed in guidance for lease rejections that you had visibility into and also the 100 basis points that you assumed for potential outcomes related to other bankrupt tenants.
Todd, that is a compound
question. Brian. Yeah, Todd, why don't I take the first part relative to the occupancy decline. We had 140 basis points of bankruptcy impact in the quarter. So said differently, without the bankruptcies, we would have grown occupancy sequentially. That was primarily the big lots and party city spaces coming off. We're expecting to get the Joanne boxes back here in May. And as Jim mentioned and we talked about on our opening remarks, we're really pleased with the level of the back fills that we've had thus far. We've addressed roughly 75% of that big lot space at spreads of over 50%. Users in the specialty grocery, off-price apparel, fitness, wellness segments, we're seeing great traction on the party city and the Joanne spaces as well. But the occupancy decline was expected. And with the leasing activity that we had during the quarter, we were really able to offset a big chunk of it. Steve, you want to take the guidance piece? Yeah, on
the guidance, Todd, I think generally the bankruptcy activity has played out as we expected when we released guidance a couple of months ago. We feel like we have additional capacity within our guidance range to absorb additional tenant disruption. And Brian and team, as you mentioned, continues to backfill space and try to get it open as soon as possible later in the year. So
again,
I think
we're well positioned within our existing guidance range. And I just add, given the supply demand backdrop, we're getting this space back at a very opportune time. Our tenants continue to demand to be in our centers and we're driving great outcomes in terms of that existing rent basis versus
where we're signing the day tenants.
Next question, Samir Kanaal
with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning, everybody. So I guess, Jim, when I hear you talk kind of in the opening remarks, there's a lot of good visibility that you have towards growth here, even for the balance of the year. I look at same store, I know it's two, eight and one cube, but there's a lot of good growth baked into the second half or even kind of into next quarter. Kind of walk us through that growth and help us think through any risks there may be not to hit kind of your midpoint. I mean, you're looking at achieving about four and a half percent, I think, for the next three quarters to get to kind of your midpoint. So is there any risk maybe rent commencements are pushing in next year? So help us walk through kind of the balance of the year in terms of growth. Thanks.
Yeah, I mean, you know, again, what we highlight, Samir, is the great visibility we have with that sign but not commence pipeline, which really it's contractual, it'll be coming in, and Steve will outline in terms of the balance of the year. And on top of that, we've got a great legal and leasing pipeline where we may be able to get some of those rents commenced in 25 as well. But really, we're talking about growth in 26 and beyond. So, you know, it is part of that all weather business plan we've often talked about that, you know, capitalizing on the low rent basis, bringing in better tenants, better rent, getting those leases signed, getting them in occupancy is really giving us tremendous visibility on growth through what may be a more
volatile period.
Next question, Craig Millman with Citi. Please go ahead.
Morning.
You know, Jim and team, it sounds like things are actually humming along pretty well. I think you guys are one of the few to not utter the word tariff. It's your prepared remarks and the first couple of questions here. So I'm just kind of curious maybe how the leasing discussions and activity has trended post April 2nd and maybe, you know, from a tenant conversation, are there concerns just about supply chain disruptions and inventory levels and things of that nature that could put more pressure on, you know, tenants as the years progress?
I think terrorists are a concern for everybody, as is regulatory uncertainty. I think our tenants in particular, given their focus on the grocery and value segment are very well positioned, their balance sheets are in good shape, and Brian can comment on our discussions, but we remain encouraged by their growth plans.
Yeah, Craig, we're really encouraged by the tenor of the leasing discussions that we're having with our tenants. You look at what we signed thus far in April. It's ahead of where we were in April last year. Our new lease deal flow into committee is ahead of where it was in April last year. You look at our lineup and our meetings at ICSE. If you were to come to our booth, you'd see tenants who we continue to grow with that are focused on their new store plans for 26, 27, and really beyond, and a lot of new tenants that are coming to join the portfolio because of all the reinvestments that we've made. So we remain very encouraged. To the extent that the tariffs are implemented the way they were announced, there's certainly some retailers that could be more negatively impacted than others, but to Jim's point, we really like how we're positioned. You think of the strong grocery anchor exposure that we have, the heavy concentration and off-price, the high-quality service and fitness users that we have in the portfolio, and as Steve mentioned, the best underlying credit profile that we've ever had. So it's something we're watching very closely. We're encouraged by the discussions that we're having
with our tenants, but again, feel like we're really well positioned.
Alexander Goldfarb, Piper Sittler, please go ahead.
Hey, good morning down there. Just going back to this year, just wrapping it together, the occupancy in the same store, if we just look at FFO, what we should expect, sounds like 2Q may be a little bit weaker than or flat to first quarter, but the back half of this year should show pretty strong ramp because nothing in your commentary has suggested there's incremental or unknown bankruptcies that you didn't originally forecast. Sounds like leasing going away, there are no delays in the S&O opening. So again, sounds like 2Q may be flat or so with first quarter maybe down a touch, but then back half of the year is up. Is that a fair way to think about the cadence of FFO for this year?
I think so, Alex. We don't provide quarterly guidance, but I think you're on the key drivers in terms of the timing of that sign but not yet. We think we've got appropriate conservatism baked in our outlook and our guidance, but most of that growth is going to be coming in in the second half.
Yeah, and I think we've talked about it on previous calls. Just remember, there is sort of a seasonality to things like percent rent and the timing of cash basis collection that more heavily weights our FFO to the first half of the year than the second half of the year, but outside of that, I think you're dead on with the trajectory of the snow pipeline and stay proper down the line.
Thank you.
Greg McInnis with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. I was hoping we could talk about some of those potentially interesting growth opportunities into year end. One, curious what the transaction market looks like today, how that's changed in April, and then what you expect to be driving those compelling opportunities to come to market later this year?
Yeah, I think it's a couple things. First, I'd point to tenant disruption creates opportunity, particularly for integrated platforms like ours that capture outside share of tenants who are growing in this environment. It allows us to look through occupancy and vacancy as opportunities as we think about it. As I've mentioned on the last couple of calls, we remain encouraged by the breadth of product that's coming to market. Mark, maybe you can give some additional commentary in terms of what we're seeing real time.
Yeah, sure. Post the April 2nd announcements, we've certainly seen the market slow a bit as buyers and sellers. You review the current volatility, that's very similar to any other time we've seen volatility hit a market. That said, over the last week or so, we've certainly seen some deals price and they've priced generally pretty well. With that also said, there are certainly deals that are waiting through the fall period of volatility to see where the market lays out. As Jim mentioned, we do think that pipeline will build and that a platform like Birchmoor, which has a good thing of liquidity, should be able to take advantage of some opportunities here as we get into the latter half of the year. The other thing I would say real time in the market, we continue to see very small deals price very well as we had in the pressure we had a couple of deals closed post order. And if you take all the liquidity we raised here today, which is about 41 million, that cap rates about a five. So we're certainly continuing to build well-priced capital out of this portfolio that we're going to reinvest into some higher yielding opportunities with better growth. We're excited about what we're going to see, but certainly there is some slowness in the market real time.
Thank you.
Next question, Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Great. Thanks, Brian. I think you mentioned in your prepared remarks, kind of the reason to leave the bad debt assumption unchanged is the additional capacity to absorb potential disruption. Should we read into this that you're just keeping it on the conservative side, given the uncertainty out there, or has there been an incremental change in tenants that might be coming onto the watch list?
I'll let Steve take the guidance piece. Yeah, I think on the guidance, you know, it was generally an inline quarter. I think when you think about, like I mentioned earlier on the bankruptcy, but also on the bad debt, I mean, I think obviously with the uncertainty around tariffs that Brian talked about and how that's going to impact some of our tendency, you know, we think it's appropriate to hold that kind of level where it is. I think Brian can hit on the watch
list. Yeah, from a watch list perspective, the one benefit of this disruption at the beginning of the year is that watch list is down considerably. So there's still tenants that we're watching in the drugstore space. We've got a very low exposure there, very low exposure to theaters. So from that perspective, we feel really good about where we sit for an underlying tendency. There's always a pocket of tenants that we are cautious with and that we're keeping a close eye on. But as Steve talked about, we feel like we're in a really best position that we've ever been in from a credit profile
perspective.
Thank
you. Next question, Florence Van Ditchcombe
with Compass Point. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys. I had a question on your redevelopment pipeline. 391, I think you still have around 40% of your portfolio that still hasn't been touched yet. So there's more to come as well. There are three bigger projects in that pipeline. And maybe if you can touch on each of those, the returns maybe are a little bit a touch below the average for the whole redevelopment. But maybe talk about the importance of Davis, Block 59, and Preston, if you could.
Yeah, I mean, they're all great projects. Importantly, they're pre-leased and they're assets that would trade at very compelling cap rates. So we believe we're creating substantial value. We're very pleased with the progress that we've made in terms of getting those assets in a position to open on time and on budget and with very compelling tenants. And it's really part of the opportunities that we create as we move forward, capitalizing on that low rent basis and finding opportunities where we know there's substantial tenant demand to be at a particular location and we can execute our leasing strategy around it.
Yeah, I would just add we're thrilled with the progress that our teams are making on those projects for us. We just opened Shake Shack in Naperville. As Jim pointed out, we're on time and on budget to open some great operators there later this summer. Davis will be opening up our Nordstrom rack in May, opening up our Ulta around the same time. We've got great QSR operators to join a fantastic Trader Joe's in that market across the street from UC Davis. It's just a fantastic piece of real estate. And the team's done a great job at Plano as well. We opened our first Kohler showroom location last year. We were thrilled about another new tenant to the portfolio. So while those projects are larger in scope, to your point, they're very consistent in terms of what we've done in the sense of being pre-leased, bought out, good visibility on the construction costs, and our team's execution has been fantastic. So we're really excited about them and everything else we have in the pipeline as well.
Yeah, and you know, to state the obvious, a lot of this tenant disruption is creating some of that future pipeline in terms of being able to bring in more compelling retailers that really serve the community and drive us towards our purpose of creating and owning centers that are the center of
the community they serve.
Great, thanks.
Thank you.
Caitlin Burrows with Goldman
Sachs. Please proceed.
Hi, good morning. Maybe just following up on the redevelopment topic. So considering possible tariffs and the materials you use and how you source, how do you think Bricksmore could be impacted as it relates to tenant improvements and redevelopment costs and how sustainable the yields are?
Well, I mean, it is an important issue as you look forward. And again, we don't commit substantial capital until we have a pre-lease and we have the capital or the construction costs nailed down through a GMAX contract. As we look forward and you think about the things like the impact tariffs will have on costs, it'll drive us to continue to push rents to make sure that we're getting to accretive returns. Otherwise, we won't proceed. But with that said, I'm very encouraged by the breadth of opportunity that we have and the types of rents tenants are willing to pay to be in these projects.
Thanks.
Next question, and I'll say just with Mizuho Securities. Please go
ahead. Hey guys, good morning. Appreciate all the color on the expected spreads on the backfill of the former Party City, Big Lot, and Joy in Boxes. But I'm curious if you could shed any light perhaps on the expected capital spend there to re-tenant this space and are there any plans to subdivide any of the boxes?
Thanks. Yeah, and Del, similar to what we saw in Bed Bath, primary users for boxes have been single tenant users. We've been able to keep costs in line. They're in line with where we've been backfilling those spaces, I'd say on average around that $50 square foot range. One of the things we've been tracking is our payback periods in terms of how we're ultimately getting paid back for those construction costs. They were at a seven-year low last year and our team continues to do a fantastic job. Not only keeping costs in line, but as Jim alluded to, he was just mentioning relative to redevelopment, when costs do pick up, getting more rent for those spaces. So we've been encouraged by what we're seeing. When we do have opportunities to split the space, we're getting paid for those as well in higher rents. But overall, they've been primarily single tenant backfills and pleased with how our team's overall keeping costs in line as well as the tenants that we've been able to bring in for those boxes. And you know, those boxes are
right in the bullseye of demand from a side's perspective. So it's been great capitalizing on that.
And one thing I would just add too, Handel, and you can really see it at the auctions is retailers have gotten really, really good at being able to utilize existing conditions and open quickly. So that's another benefit too of what's happened over the past few years is that the utilization of existing conditions, where the loading dock is, where the facade is, keeping the bathrooms where they are, has not only kept costs down, but it's enabled us to get tenants in and get them open faster.
Thank you.
Next question, Kyvin Kim with Truett Security.
Good morning,
Kyvin. Thank you. Good morning, Jim. I just want to go back to the prior topic about tenant behavior pre and post-perif news. And you mentioned that the leasing volume in April is ahead of last year, but if you isolated for just new leasing volume, would that still be the case? And then second question, you had a higher lease termination fee than we thought. If you can provide any color on that. Thank you.
Yeah, I can take that, Kyvin. Yeah, it was new leases that I was referring to relative to what's been executed and what's been coming into committee thus far in April. So we remain very encouraged. We're encouraged with the overall tenor of the discussions, as well as those conversations heading into New York ICSE. Look, term fees are a part of our business. We're going to be opportunistic with those when we have the ability to backfill a space or when there's a reinvestment opportunity. We had a few of those during the quarter. It had a negligible impact to occupancy as the majority of those spaces already had leases on them. I think it was less than five bips. So we're going to continue to be opportunistic when we see those opportunities. And we expect to have a few of them here in the normal course, but it's
something that comes up in our business.
Thank you. Linda, would Jeffries please proceed?
Yes, hi. So your FY 25 same store
screens towards the high end of the peer set and given notably low basis rents, is your expectation that your same store growth, you know, maybe a year out, stay above the peer set amidst market disruption?
Without giving guidance, one of the great things about our business plan and our execution is the forward visibility it provides. You look at that signed but not commenced pipeline, the fact that we commenced 13 to 14 million of ABR in the quarter and it stayed at 60 million. That stacking of rents as we deliver 14, 15, 16 million of ABR a quarter get the full benefit of it in the following year while at the same time maintaining that forward signed but not commenced pipeline. In addition to what we see in the legal pipeline, it gives us tremendous visibility on our continued outperformance. And I think, you know, you mentioned it, low rent basis certainly helps, but it's that activity that we've basically gotten contractually committed to come into our portfolio that gives us confidence in our ability to continue to
grow.
Thank you. Paulina Rojas with Green Street, please proceed. Good morning. Given the ongoing
developments
not
only around tariffs but also around immigration restrictions, which tenant categories do you see as most vulnerable to long-term margin pressure?
Paulina, hey, it's Brian. It's something that we've been watching closely. We haven't seen an impact in terms of leasing decisions relative to our tenants from an immigration standpoint. We've been tracking the traffic on our specialty grocers versus our traditional grocers. We haven't seen any real shift there or any trends to be concerned about. You know, our restaurant tenants that we have, we had the restaurant leases that we signed during the quarter, we had a 55% uptick in rent so over for comparable leases. So we're really pleased with what we're seeing in that space, but that's something that we're watching there too just overall from a restaurant standpoint. I would say though that that restaurant exposure, two-thirds of them are national and regional tenants. We've got strong credit profiles and with the underlying standards that Steve and team have put in place here, we have really good visibility on those operators. I'd say that's one category we're watching as it relates to it but really haven't seen any shift in terms of the tenor of the discussions or any impact of real estate decisions.
Which is encouraging and certainly as we look forward, we're well aware and mindful of the policy uncertainty and what that might do the consumer, what it might do from an economic slowdown perspective. And as we all know, that can be pretty broad-based, but what we particularly like is how well we're positioned as Steve talked about from a credit profile, but also from the nature of our key tenants, whether it's in grocery, specialty grocery, off-price apparel. These are retailers that are well capitalized but importantly do well through cycles. And I'm really proud of how our all-weather business plan has continued to hold up. It outperformed coming into and coming out of the pandemic and we think it will be well positioned
to
outperform
whatever may come from an economic standpoint.
Next question, Zain with KP Morgan. Please go
ahead.
Yeah, hey, I guess just circling back to lease term income, I guess out of curiosity, do you expect a more normalized level of lease term income for the rest of the year?
Yeah, I think just what you think about the one we had in the quarter, obviously being signed in the quarter releasing guidance seven or eight weeks ago, that was fully known to us at that time. And then I think as Brian said, as we move throughout the year, these are things that come up in the normal course and visibility on the pond then will come based on not only the demand to backfill that space but also the tenant credit in that lease as well.
Got it. And I guess on GNA, I think you talked last quarter about a couple pennies of GNA savings throughout this year. I'm just curious if that's still expected.
We do
continue to expect to see the benefits of that regional realignment.
Okay. Next question, want to the Narvi
with the MOCAP market. Please go ahead.
All right. Good morning. Excuse me if I missed it. I joined late. But could you provide a little bit more color on Joanne and what we should expect on the impact, the occupancy or anything else into the second quarter? I think the first assignments are out. So does any color on least what we know today or how we should be thinking about the range of outcomes from an occupancy perspective I think would be helpful.
Yeah, this is Brian. Our Joanne exposure was down two stores from last quarter. That was basically two natural expirations that were already leased, one to Ross and another to the paper store. We're expecting to have the remaining 17 boxes back to us in May. We're really pleased with the activity out of the gate. We're roughly resolved on two thirds at least or LOI at compelling rent spreads in the 30 to 40% range. I think what we've seen here is kind of what our team has been able to demonstrate over time is that this disruption creates a great opportunity for us to capitalize on those tenants that are expanding like the off price operators, like specialty grocers, like strong fitness operators. So we'll be taking that The impact, we do expect some pressure as it relates to occupancy, the level of which is going to depend on how quickly those actual leases get signed. But out of the gate, we're really pleased with the progress.
If there are any additional questions, please press star one on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from Alexander Goldfarb from Piper Sandler.
Hey, and thank you for taking the follow up. Jim, just a question on tariffs overall. From your tenants, is there any sense of what they think the ultimate price impact on the goods that they sell will be? I know the policy keeps shifting almost daily, but is there a sense of what the retailers are expecting on impact and how they've adjusted their sourcing to perhaps mitigate this?
Well, I think the best retailers have been in tariff environments before, have shown resiliency in terms of sourcing, and are working quite assiduously to get the product into the stores at the right kind of price. In terms of specific impacts based on retailers, I don't think that's truly known yet. So I think what you're finding is retailers are accelerating some purchases ahead of the market, and they're trying to make sure that they're not going to have to buy a lot of cheese to position themselves to thrive and compete in this environment. You know, the off-price retailers particularly like this type of inventory disruption because it's their bread and butter. It's how they really drive value as they capture inventory and product from full-price retailers. So each retailer is looking at it a little bit differently, but I don't think it's known yet how much is going to be absorbed by the supplier, how much is going to be absorbed by the retailer, and then ultimately what's going to be passed on to the consumer. What I find most encouraging in this environment is, despite all of that uncertainty, we continue to see retailers who are growing committing to future locations where they know they can be profitable, where they know their customer is, where they can serve that customer. Through a model that's the most efficient, we were talking years ago about e-commerce and that being displacing to our core retailers. I think these retailers have proven the stores work, they're a healthy and profitable channel, and if we do see some inflation, I think the efficiency of the store is going to be all that much
more important.
Thank you.
Next question, Jamie Feldman with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Great, thank you for taking the question. I guess a follow-up to Alex's question, you know, as you guys think about your guidance or just speak internally, I mean, what do you view as the worst case and how is that baked into your numbers in terms of tariffs specifically, you know, the impact on retail sales or leasing spreads, or does it actually just not even matter for 25 and it becomes a 26 event by the time everything kind of flows through the system? Just curious if you can provide more color just on your forecasting and how you think about it.
Yeah, I think for us, you know, it would be a second-order impact and ultimately you'd see it and we think we have appropriate provision for this and additional retailer disruption. But again, you know, our retailers are focused on those segments that are economically resilient, that can handle downturn, and we like how the portfolio is positioned overall against a wide range of potential outcomes. To your other part of the question, 25 and 26 do provide us tremendous visibility given that sign but not commenced pipeline with great tenants with great balance sheets that are committed to getting those stores open. And again, you know, these tenants today as we're looking at that growing legal leasing pipeline are really making decisions for 26
and 27.
Next question, Caitlin Barrow from Golden Stock.
Please go ahead.
Hi, again, just another, I don't know, follow-up or question on the guidance piece. Wondering if you could give any details or specifics this point in the year, what you think could put you ending up at the high end of the range versus the low end of the range on SFO?
Yeah, I think it's similar to other years, right? The high end of the range is really where we're focused is getting those tenants that we have in that sign but not commenced pool open as soon as possible. Obviously, you know, bad debt and the revenue seems uncollectible line to the extent we perform to the lower end of that range will obviously push us to the higher end of the range. And then ultimately, I think it's exactly what Jim just said, it's going to be the impact of tenant disruption and the magnitude and timing of any additional disruption, that would you say?
Thanks. Next question, Keith Binkin with Trillips. Please go ahead.
Thanks for the follow-up. Just a broad question. So for your tenants that are perhaps more impacted by tariffs or bringing goods from overseas, do you have a kind of a general view on how much pre-tariff inventory they have and how many months does that last?
Keith Binkin, I mean, that's not really come up in the leasing discussion. I think to Jim's point, several retailers were prepared for some type of tariff impact. I think the announcement was more than a lot of folks were expecting, but they had identified alternative sourcing opportunities. They were prepared at some point from an inventory perspective as well, but it really remains to be seen in terms of what the total impact is. What we're encouraged by is what we continue to see real-time in terms of the traffic to our centers, the performance of our existing tenants, the renewal conversations that we're having that are coming through in our spreads, and the new tenants that we continue to add to the portfolio and continue to add to the new pipeline. So there certainly could be some tenants that are more impacted than others. We feel as though our best retailers have really done a great job of preparing for the impact, but really remains to be seen. But overall, we like how we're positioned to be able to navigate it.
Thank you again.
Thank you.
Jami Feldman with
Wells Fargo. Please proceed.
Great. Thanks for taking the follow-up. I was hoping you can just talk more about the transaction market, given higher uncertainty out there. Have you seen the number of buyers or sellers change recently, foreign versus domestic, and then any changes to underwriting assumptions you're seeing out there in terms of leasing spreads, occupancy? And does it cause you to get more or less aggressive on your investment plans? Thank you.
Yeah, thanks for the question. What I would say is when at Bricksmore, when we think about finding deals, we look for ones that have high conviction or can drive strong returns through our platform, and that resonates with well below market rent, vacancies, and redevelopment opportunities. It's one of the reasons why you didn't see us put capital out in Q1. It's always going to be really lumpy as we try to find the right deal to put on our platform. With respect to the impact that you're asking about, it's been a couple of weeks. As I mentioned earlier, you're certainly seeing a slowing market. But what I would say is that there has been very, very strong demand from a variety of capital sources to be an open-air retail Q1. What is particularly strong from a demand perspective, we haven't necessarily seen capital pull back and say they're out of the market. We've seen people more say, hey, this is going to take a couple weeks longer to figure out as we work through the volatility.
Thank you. Okay, great. Thank you.
I would like to turn the floor over to Stacy for closing remarks. Thanks everyone for joining us today. Okay. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your line at this time. Thank you for your participation.