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spk06: Good day and welcome to the Peabody third quarter earnings call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialists by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. And to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded, and at this time, I would like to turn the call over To Ms. Alice Dorinas, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am.
spk00: Good morning, and thanks for joining Peabody's earnings call for the third quarter of 2022. With me today are President and CEO Jim Grech and CFO Mark Furbeck. Within the earnings release, you'll find our statement on forward-looking information, as well as a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures. We encourage you to consider the risk factors referenced there along with our public filings with the SEC. I'll now turn the call over to Jim.
spk03: Thanks, Alice, and good morning, everyone. In the third quarter, our diversified assets delivered strong performance results, generating free cash flow of over $460 million and adjusted EBITDA of $439 million. While recovering from significant weather events in Australia in the early part of the third quarter, We have set the stage to finish the year even stronger with higher projected volume compared to prior quarters and markets supporting continued strong margins. With cash generated, we continue to strengthen our balance sheet by advancing our debt reduction strategy with voluntary repurchases, bringing us closer to eliminating all senior secured debt, which will allow us greater financial flexibility in the future. And I am pleased to share that we have commenced the redevelopment efforts at North Piniella. Before I expand on the quarter and the range of some of our Australian operations, I would like to sincerely thank our global employees for continuing to work safely and efficiently and keeping us focused in the face of adverse events and distractions. Dedication and commitment of our talented workforce allows us to deliver strong results. I would also like to congratulate the teams at both 20 Mile and Shoal Creek for winning the 2021 Sentinels of Safety Award for their outstanding safety performance. United States' most prestigious award recognizing mining safety. I'm extremely proud of this accomplishment and the commitment to safety that this exemplifies. Now, turning to global coal markets. Across the globe, all coal price indices remain at strong levels. The outlook for all our operating segments continues to be favorable with constrained supply base serving a market that is reallocating the scarce availability of coal. Seaborne coal markets remain volatile, with near-term markets being driven by continued energy supply security issues caused by the Russia-Ukraine conflict, the global inflationary environment, concerns with the severity of the impending winter in Europe, and the wet season in Australia and Indonesia. Seaborne thermal coal prices remain elevated, as around the globe, coal fuel generation is called upon for affordable, reliable energy security. The Russia-Ukraine conflict continues to impact markets. The cessation of coal imports from Russia by European countries is creating the need to source from alternative locations, including Australia and the U.S. Furthermore, an underwater pipeline explosion is reducing Russian gas pipeline flows into Europe and is putting additional reliance on imported coal to meet the upcoming European winter demand. Overall, global thermal coal markets remain strong, with pricing well supported due to market tightness. Within the seaborne metallurgical market, steel output remains depressed, impacted by both seasonal and macroeconomic considerations. However, offsetting this are steelmakers in Atlantic markets switching away from Russian coal imports and seeking supply from other regions such as Australia, U.S., and Canada, particularly for PCI coals. While energy shortages and inflationary concerns in some markets present a risk to near-term industrial activity. The underlying market fundamentals remain constructive, as metallurgical coal supply has declined, and any additional production disruptions from wet weather and coal operation outages will lead to a further tightening of the market. In the United States, the coal market continues to be very tight, as strong demand for electricity generation competes with persisting transportation issues impacting supply to utilities. Overall, electricity demand increased more than 3% year-over-year, positively impacted by weather and economic activity. However, year-to-date electricity generation from thermal costs declined year-over-year due to coal conservation by utilities to build coal stockpiles, given concerns with rail performance. U.S. natural gas prices remain elevated, although lower than record highs earlier this year. Numerous factors will impact coal utilization heading into the winter, including resolution of transportation issues, weather, renewable generation, and natural gas prices. Across the U.S., we continue to see growing caution regarding the pace of energy transition and the value of dispatchable capacity. Evidence of this are announcements of coal plant retirements being delayed, with most utilities citing grid reliability concerns or delayed renewable projects. This speaks to continued strong coal demand for U.S. coals. Overall, we anticipate continued near-term market volatility as coal demand fluctuates and supply remains constrained across the globe. Our diversified platform is positioned to participate in each of these markets, optimizing results by managing the needs of our diversified customer base. Now, turning to the third quarter, our third quarter results were strong. despite recovering from significant weather and logistical challenges experienced in the first half of the year and early part of the third quarter. During the quarter, we set the stage to finish the year even stronger, with higher volume projected for delivery in the fourth quarter. What weather continues to be a theme impacting production at our Australian operations, with current rain resulting in decreases in fourth quarter estimated production at some of our operations. In our seaborne thermal segment, the impacts of additional heavy rain in early July and absenteeism associated with COVID impacts and industry-wide staffing pressures resulted in lower third quarter production volumes and increased costs as compared to prior quarters. Year-to-date, Lambeau and Wolfenjohn have received more than 190% and 155% respectively of their 10-year historical rain averages. Last week, As a result of major rain, we had a temporary stoppage in production at Wilk and John. The continuing La Nina weather conditions in New South Wales pose a risk to these operations, even with increased water management capabilities put in place. Based on weather events in the early part of the quarter, we have reduced our thermal export sales expectation by over 500,000 tons for the fourth quarter. Our Seabourn Mets segment delivered higher volumes this quarter and is set to deliver even higher volume next quarter. Metropolitan produced higher volume following completion of a long haul move in the first half of the year. This higher volume offset lower sales volume at Shoal Creek from continued production challenges due to geologic conditions and the impacts of a barge and loader issue at the port impacting timing of September vessels. We anticipate these issues will continue throughout the year with full year 2022 sales expectations at Shoal Creek reduced to 900,000 tons. Wet weather earlier in October has impacted CMJV production expectation for the quarter, resulting in anticipated sales being reduced by about 150,000 tons. Outside of our operating segment, our 50% ownership share of the Middlemount JV delivered 400,000 attributable tons in the third quarter, with production continuing to be impacted by the severe rains earlier in the year. This operation has also suffered from additional rains quarter to date and is anticipated to have lower sales, lower results in the fourth quarter as compared to the third quarter. In the PRB, higher customer nominations and improving rail performance resulted in an increase of nearly 4 million tons shipped as compared to the prior quarter. The higher volume favorably impacted our per ton costs. We are cautiously optimistic for improving rail performance going into the fourth quarter. Our other U.S. thermal mines continue to achieve consistent strong results with increased volume delivered in the third quarter, despite experiencing some real performance issues, primarily at the El Segundo mine in New Mexico. Going into the fourth quarter, we are expecting to finish the year strong, with higher cash flow generation projected as compared to prior quarters. We remain focused on strengthening the balance sheet with further substantial senior secure debt retirements, and pre-funding of our long-term reclamation obligations. After considerable evaluation, I am pleased to share that we are moving forward with initial steps to unlock the value of the company's North Bend Yellow Mine, a premium hard coking coal long-wall operation in Australia with 70 million tons of company-controlled reserves. The project is a unique opportunity in that it will benefit from substantial existing infrastructure and equipment in place at the mine including a new 300-meter longwall system, a proven coal handling preparation plant, dedicated rail loop for transport to the Delrimple Bay coal terminal, and an accommodation village with housing and service amenities for more than 400 workers. This infrastructure makes this opportunity superior to other green and brownfield projects that do not have a significant infrastructure in place. North can yell is expected to generate attractive return at historical long-term price assumptions while reweighting Peabody's long-term production and revenue towards metallurgical coal in line with our strategy. Initial redevelopment capital expenditures of $140 million over the next 18 months has been approved. Development costs beyond the current board approved amounts are estimated to be an additional $240 million. bringing total estimated capital to approximately $380 million over three years, with long-well operation expected to commence in 2026. Beyond this project, North Canela has additional strategic value with 50 million tons of remaining company-controlled reserves, in addition to multiple other regional options for further extensions. Options for further development on our existing and regional reserves continue to be assessed in light of the adverse impact of the changes to the Queensland government's royalty regime. As we take the first steps toward redevelopment at North Guinea, we continue to urge the Queensland government to roll back their extreme royalty structure, which will not only discourage investment in Queensland, but also risk the tens of thousands of jobs and local business opportunities that coal mining delivers to regional communities. Finally, as you may have seen, Coronado Global Resources recently issued an announcement confirming that we are engaged in discussions about a potential combination. It is important to note that while there can be no assurance of any such transaction, we do regularly evaluate a range of strategic options to strengthen our position as a coal producer of choice for both thermal and met coal, and any actions we take will always be consistent with the focus and our commitment to creating value for shareholders. At this time, we do not have any updates to share, and we will not be commenting further on that matter today. I'll now turn things over to Mark to cover the financial details.
spk05: Thanks, Jim, and good morning, everyone. In the third quarter, we recorded net income attributable to common shareholders of $375 million, or $2.33 per diluted share, and adjusted EBITDA of $439 million. Year-to-date adjusted EBITDA was $1.3 billion, nearly three times the prior year result. For the quarter, we reported free cash flow of $461 million, the best result in 18 quarters, and had approximately $1.4 billion of cash and cash equivalents at September 30. Our unique, best-in-class, diversified portfolio continues to set Peabody apart. Our seaborne thermal segment led the way with premium Australian thermal coal priced on average above $420 per metric ton, substantially higher than the premium hard coking coal average price of about $250. Together, with higher demand in the U.S., each of our operating segments reported higher per ton margins compared to the second quarter, except seaworn metallurgical coal, which despite achieving $30 per ton in lower costs, realized lower market pricing. Turning now to the third quarter segment results. Seabourn Thermal generated 171 million of adjusted EBITDA and benefited from higher realized prices, resulting in a 48% adjusted EBITDA margin. The segment exported 1.6 million tons at an average realized price of 188, approximately $45 higher than the second quarter. Costs were $5 per ton higher, impacted by both lower weather-related production at the Wambo Open Cut joint venture and higher sales price-sensitive costs. Included in the Seabourn thermal segment is the Wilpin Young line, which shipped 2.8 million tons, including over 700,000 export tons. Wilpin Young realized an average sales price of $72 per ton, about 15% lower than the prior quarter due to less tons available for export. Wilpin Young recorded $115 million of adjusted EBITDA for the quarter, repaid $136 million of its debt, and had over $200 million of cash at September 30. Seabourn Met generated $113 million of adjusted EBITDA, as lower average realized prices of $180 per ton were partially offset by higher production and lower costs compared to the second quarter, resulting in a 36% adjusted EBITDA margin. The segment sold 1.8 million tons, about 13% more than the prior quarter. Costs were $30 per ton lower due to higher production at Metropolitan and lower sales price sensitive costs. The U.S. thermal mines delivered $111 million of adjusted EBITDA, our best quarter year to date. The investments we made early in the year continue to allow for higher production levels and the PRB began to benefit from some of the uncovered coal in the first half of the year. The PRB shipped 22.3 million tons, about 4 million more than the second quarter, despite rail service meeting only 83% of customer nominations. Costs per ton were $1.26 lower quarter over quarter due to higher production, resulting in a 13% adjusted EBITDA margin. The other U.S. thermal mines shipped 4.8 million tons, 400,000 tons higher than the second quarter. Better realized pricing offset higher labor and repair costs, resulting in higher margins per ton and a 28% adjusted EBITDA margin. Now, a look at the balance sheet. At September 30, we had $1.4 billion of cash and cash equivalents, $485 million more than total debt. During the quarter, we retired an additional $186 million of secured debt and have $143 million of additional repurchase offers on the Wilpin Young 10% debt currently outstanding. At September 30, we classified all remaining secured debt as a current liability on the balance sheet, underscoring our intent and ability to retire all debt other than the 2028 convertible notes in the next 12 months. During the third quarter, we posted an additional $31 million of cash collateral toward future reclamation obligations, bringing total cash collateral supporting surety bonds to $88 million. Based on third quarter free cash flow results, an additional $62 million will be posted in the fourth quarter. At September 30, we had $466 million of cash margin supporting the Wambo Underground Mine Hedge Program, $78 million less than the June 30 balance. We have approximately 900,000 metric tons still exposed to margin variations, all of which will roll off over the next three quarters. Now let's turn to our outlook for the remainder of the year. As Jim mentioned, we updated fourth quarter guidance to account for the expected impacts to our Australian mines from the recent rains. Despite these adjustments, we expect the seaborne thermal and metallurgical segments to report their highest quarterly sales volumes of the year in the fourth quarter. The Seabourn thermal segment is expected to ship 2.4 million tons, with 1.2 million export tons priced on average at 122, including 564,000 metric tons hedged at $84. There are also 1.2 million unpriced tons, with 100,000 tons expected to price at Newcastle benchmark levels and 1.1 million tons expected to price in line with API 5 coal due to current coal quality and market conditions. Costs are expected to improve to $40 per ton due to higher production quarter over quarter. Seabourn metallurgical volume is expected to be approximately 2 million tons, with 200,000 tons priced at 244, and the unpriced tons expected to achieve 75 to 80% of the premium hard coking coal benchmark price. Based on production mix, costs are expected to be $125 per ton. In the PRB, we expect to ship 23 million tons at an average price of $13.50. Costs are expected to be $11.50 per ton, resulting in our best quarterly margin of the year at $2 per ton. Other U.S. thermal volume is now expected to be 4.7 million tons with costs at $40. Lower segment expectations are primarily due to poor rail service at our El Segundo mine. Despite these adjustments, volumes and costs are expected to be largely in line with third quarter results. Looking out to 2023 on U.S. thermal volumes, we have 82 million PRB tons priced at $13.25 with some higher quality 8800 BTU coal uncommitted and 18.6 million other U.S. thermal tons priced at $50.70 per ton. We expect to finish the year with an improved balance sheet and significantly less debt, $150 million of cash funding for future reclamation, enhanced financial flexibility, and the redevelopment of North Gunyala underway. I'd now like to turn the call over for questions. Operator? Thank you.
spk06: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. And to withdraw your question, please press star then two.
spk04: And at this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And the first question will come from Nathan Martin with Benchmark. Please go ahead.
spk07: Thanks, operator. Good morning, everyone. Congrats on the quarter, and thanks for taking my questions. Thanks, Nate. I guess I'll start moving forward with North Cuniella redevelopment. Obviously, a high-quality met coal project there. Confirmed discussions with Coronado, which is obviously a met levered producer. So maybe it would be great to get your thoughts on kind of the met markets as you see them going forward as they seem to be getting your attention as of late. Thanks.
spk03: Again, Nate, the metallurgical seaborne markets, as we've said in the past, have been a focus area for growth for us, particularly in the Asian markets which we serve. And they continue to be a focus for us and areas that we would look to strategically grow into the future. The North Gunyala project is a part of fulfilling that strategy and our outlook on these markets. And, you know, we're very, very bullish on that project because we think it's unique metallurgical coal project versus any other opportunity like that in the world. And that is because of two reasons. One, it's a high quality metallurgical coal. And two, because we have such substantial infrastructure in place already with the rail loop, the long wall, the accommodation village, there's a significant amount of investment already just sitting there. And to put the incremental investment that we need to to bring that mine, enter back into the mine and bring it back into service to us is just an outstanding opportunity that we've obviously taken steps to embark upon. So again, it fits right in with our view that the seaborne met markets are a potential growth area for us in the future.
spk07: Appreciate those comments, Jim. Maybe kind of looking ahead, first you guys raised CapEx, obviously around what looks like $20 million for this year, 210, again driven by the Northern Yellow Project. Any early thoughts on what CapEx could look like in 23? I think maintenance this year is about 110 million. Is that still kind of a fair number to use? And what do you expect spending to look like in 23 on North Goonyella as you move forward? Thanks.
spk05: Nate, it's Mark. We're not providing any guidance for 23 yet. Specific to North Goonyella, though, You know, we announced the essentially 136 million that's going to be spent over the next six quarters, really through the end of the first quarter of 24. So that's kind of the spend on North Guinea for that first chunk. You know, we also noted that, you know, there's about 230 or 240 million dollars of additional development at North Guinea above what we've announced and approved. you know, that would be spent over the following two years after that first $136 million. So you're really looking at about $370 million total for North Union Yellow now, really over the next three and a half years, pretty proportionately or on a straight line.
spk07: Got it. Thanks for that information, Mark. And then maybe just come back to the quarter for a second. I noticed other operating cost line item was higher, at least than I'd expected. I know that tends to be a little lumpy. as I think it's largely driven by trading and brokerage activities, as you guys have noted in the past. But can we get some color there? And maybe even more importantly, how do you see that line item shaping up in the fourth quarter and beyond? Thanks.
spk05: Yeah, thanks for that question. Two things. That's mostly that other. We do run through, you know, the former North American Yellow Holding cost event running through there. But that is primarily the trading activities that you mentioned. We typically use that to maximize our blending opportunities and generally make a modest yet meaningful profit for the company. Particularly this quarter, though, it's a good question because as a reminder, we realized some hedge losses in the first quarter of this year as weather-related production delays deferred shipment of about 180,000 hedge tons at spot prices when we delivered into other fixed price contracts, other physical contracts we had delivered at fixed prices. Uh, that loss was recorded through coal trade in the first quarter. And the result simply from the timing difference of delivering that one, both physical coal and the hedge contracts. Now, if you recall first quarter, average prices was about $264 per metric ton. Now here in the third quarter, we delivered some of those tons, uh, when the average price was $420 a metric ton. So we realized about $27 million in coal trading profits during the quarter, just from that timing difference. But those truly are, you know, real learnings based on selling that coal at 420 versus 264.
spk07: And any thoughts, Mark, on like how that might look like going forward or how to model that?
spk05: Yeah. So there's still, you know, about 900,000 tons that we have on that program that are rolling off. I would say we probably recovered about half of those deferred tons from the first quarter. So I'd expect a similar, you know, at same prices as today, I'd expect a similar cold trading profit in that ballpark for the fourth quarter.
spk07: Got it. That's very helpful. Appreciate that. And then I guess just maybe one final item, if I could. You know, we've seen, obviously, the heavy rains you guys spoke about in your prepared remarks in October. Sounds like you've kind of incorporated that into your guidance as best as possible. What else are you guys doing to kind of deal with those heavy rains? How comfortable are you with the 2.4 million tons of fourth quarter exports you're guiding to at this point?
spk03: Thanks. Yeah, Nate. Like you said, we've incorporated our best estimates into the forecast for the impacts of those rains. And even we have in our forecast some allowance for other rain events. So we feel good about the forecast we have out there pending anything that's I would call it, you know, extensive or, you know, out of the ordinary occurring. We do have some allowances for that already in the numbers. You know, what we've been doing is, you know, on the site, each site is distinctly different, different ways to manage the water with the much larger volumes if they are to reoccur and treating the water so eventually we can remove it from site. So each of the different sites have put plans in place to, handle these larger amounts of water that we already have on site currently and that may be coming again in the future. So again, we're taking the steps that we can take to be ready for these types of events occurring again.
spk07: Thank you, Jim. I'll pass it on. I appreciate the time and best of luck in the fourth quarter.
spk06: Thank you, Nate. The next question will come from Lucas Pipes with B. Reilly Security. Please go ahead.
spk02: Thank you very much, operator. Good morning, everyone. Good job on the quarter. Thank you. I do want to follow up on the North Gunyala decision. Specifically, you know that the market puts a very significant premium on capital returns. How do you think about... pursuing this organic growth project while also meeting market expectations for ongoing capital returns, especially as we look out to 2023. Thank you very much for your perspective.
spk05: Thanks, Lucas. It's Mark. I'll take a crack at that. We've talked here for a few quarters now about our strategy of first deleveraging the balance sheet. As you know, shareholder returns are restricted with our secured debt as well as our shared agreements. Since the start of 21, we've repaid about $700 million of debt. And at the same time, we've increased our cash balance from about $700 million to $1.4 billion. With the classification to current liabilities of all of our secured debt, it's a clear signal that we will eliminate that remaining $550 million over the next 12 months. Specifically, Wilpin Young has about $195 million of debt outstanding. We have offers, as I mentioned in my remarks, outstanding to repurchase that debt. To date, we have received tenders into those offers for substantially all of that debt. So I expect that to be cleared up in short order. We're also addressing the unfunded $300 million LLC facility that costs about $20 million a year to maintain. That matures in 2024 and will not be renewed. Currently, that facility is providing non-cash collateral for future reclamation liabilities. As you may recall, our surety agreement also requires some additional collateral based on free cash flow. And as noted, $62 million of collateral has been posted here in the fourth quarter, bringing our total prepaid reclamation fund to $150 million. You know, so the last part is that surety agreement. So let me just add here that we continue to have really good discussions with our surety partners. We've discovered a lot of common ground. We're certainly aligned on the company's continued deleveraging efforts. And we are seeking a final reclamation surety agreement to cash collateralize that future reclamation to a reasonable level relative to the actual liability, and then remove those restrictions from shareholder returns as well. We expect to continue to finalize that here in the coming months. So with those shackles, let's say, removed, we have an opportunity to do a couple of things. You know, when we gain that financial flexibility, we can reinvest in organic projects like North Guinea. You know, Jim mentioned world-class premium hard coking coal that can deliver three to four million tons a year of that coal for an investment of $370 million over the next three and a half years. That's a 25% return, and that's only utilizing 28% of the existing reserves in that project. So while we have great organic portfolio opportunities, we're also looking to do that side by side with shareholder returns and elimination of this debt.
spk02: Mark, really appreciate that comprehensive answer. That is very helpful. One of the pieces in all of this is also M&A. When you think about capital returns, North Garniella, and then also M&A, how do those pieces fit together? Thank you very much for your perspective on that.
spk03: Lucas, as Mark said, given the strong cash generation projects, you know, after we look at strengthening our balance sheet and as Mark said, removing those shackles for us, you know, we then can look at different things that aren't mutually exclusive, whether it's shareholder returns, organic growth, or M&A. So participating in one doesn't necessarily preclude participating in the other. What we do have a focus on though is what is the best overall decisions for our shareholders. And, you know, that overrides anything that we're doing as far as what we're going to be doing with the capital once we have these shackles and this financial flexibility to do some more maneuvering with the cash and the company.
spk02: Helpful. And given that you've signaled the go-ahead here in North Ghana, is it fair to conclude that that is clearly better than what you're seeing available on the M&A front?
spk03: Again, I'm not going to comment on any M&A activities. As I said, was it shareholder returns, organic growth, or M&A? They don't have to be mutually exclusive. The North Ginella project stands alone on its own merits. Again, with the returns that Mark mentioned, and I would say the lower execution risk of a project like that versus something that's greenfield because there's so much infrastructure in place. We know the reserves. You know, we look at it as a very low risk organic growth opportunity. that stand alone is a very, very good decision for our company.
spk02: Thank you. Then last one from me, unfortunately, also on the capital structure allocation front. I'll maybe jump back in with operational questions later. But in terms of, Mark, again, really appreciate the response earlier, very helpful. You mentioned paying off all the secured debt over the next 12 months. You're in discussions with Surety's. Would it be possible to provide a little bit more granularity on the potential timing of the secured debt payments? Would you expect that to be early 2023, first quarter, and then with the sureties, would you expect to arrive at a conclusion to those discussions around the same time? Thank you very much for your perspective.
spk05: Yeah, I appreciate those questions, Lucas. Certainly from a secured debt perspective, I mentioned the Wilp and Young debt, 195 million. So the big piece of that, we have offers outstanding, substantially all of that's been tendered. So that should be cleaned up here, hopefully, in the next quarter, in the fourth quarter here. The other secured debt, the term loan, that can be repaid without penalty and premium at a time of our choosing. And the 2025 notes are currently callable as well at a very small premium to par. So we can take that out and we expect to do so in the next 12 months. As far as the sureties go, our partners, like I mentioned, we're having really productive conversations. We have a lot of common ground. So I think the timeline is the same. I'd expect to have that wrapped up here by the end of the first quarter of next year.
spk02: Very helpful. Again, appreciate all the color and keep up the good work. Thank you.
spk04: Thanks, Lucas.
spk06: The next question will come from David Gagliano with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I think a lot of the questions that I had on my mind have already been addressed, but I did want to just clarify a little bit on North Grignola. Just the timing here. So CapEx is $140 million by 1Q24 and then total $370 million. And can you give us a sense of the timing on the ramp up of production and also what's the early read on, you know, reasonable range for, you know, for cash costs?
spk03: On the production, we will start seeing development coal coming in 2024, Dave. That's the plan. for that and then long wall coal coming sometime in the first half of 2026. So that's the timing of when we see the production flowing. And I'm sorry, what was the other question you had?
spk01: I mean, I know it's early days and I know we've been in and out of North Brunella over the years. My other question was a reasonable range for cash costs in 2026 as best you can tell in 2022.
spk05: you're talking North can yellow cash costs. I think we're probably looking at that 95, 95 to a hundred dollars a ton.
spk01: All right. Perfect. Um, and then on the, on the M and a commentary and the commentary that, you know, that, that North can yellow and M and a are not, you know, mutually exclusive. When you look at M and a, um, you know, would you, are you, are you considering, you know, um, you know, what, what's, what's the, what's the more likely type of, um, opportunities you're looking at? Is it full corporate activity or acquisitions, or is it asset by asset? Or if you could just give us a sense as to what types of things are under consideration.
spk03: Dave, our strategy for growth, whether it's organics or M&A, if it were to occur, is to go to the seaborne markets with the met markets being preferred over the thermal markets. But again, not to say we wouldn't look at it, but a high preference to expand in the seaborne metallurgical markets is the direction we'd like to go in the future. And we would look at any type of opportunity that would make sense to us. So I wouldn't put any limits on what we would look at as far as the type of opportunity.
spk01: Okay. And then just along those same lines, in terms of incremental investments elsewhere geographically, can you comment a little bit about, you know, thoughts about the U.S. thermal strategic plans? It wasn't too long ago Peabody and Archer trying to get together out there. Obviously, it didn't work out from an antitrust perspective. Obviously, things have changed a lot, and I'm just curious what the current thinking is with regards to future, you know, meaningful investments in the U.S. Padre River Basin, for example, or just in the U.S. normal business in general.
spk03: Yeah, so, you know, in regards to an M&A question, I think if that's what you're asking, you know, again, our focus is... Organic or inorganic?
spk01: Both, actually, yeah.
spk03: Yeah. So our focus is the seaborne metallurgical growth. So in the domestic U.S. thermal, you know, we like the assets that we have. They're low-cost assets both in the PRB and in the Midwest. And, you know, earlier in the year, we've announced some investments in equipment for those mines. And, you know, we've also, in the first half of the year, we invested in uncovering some more coal in the PRB to be ready to meet some demand here. So our investments in our U.S. assets, Dave, are to, I'd call it small incremental growth off of our existing asset base, nothing significant or as far as capital investments there. It's basically taking what we have, putting some more of the equipment back in the service, hiring people to man the equipment, and then that can fluctuate with demand. That would be how we're looking at our U.S. assets.
spk01: U.S. thermal assets. Understood. Okay, and then just the last one for me on the same topic. When you assess your existing portfolio, do you see divestment opportunities within that portfolio?
spk04: You know, I don't like to comment on M&A or divestment.
spk03: You know, again, whatever is makes the most sense for our shareholders, we're always open to looking at it and we'll look for that opportunity.
spk01: Okay, great. Thanks very much for taking my questions.
spk04: Yeah, thank you, Dave.
spk06: As there are no further questions, I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jim Grech for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.
spk03: Well, thank you all for joining us today. I'd especially like to thank our employees for remaining focused on safety and for continuing to execute on all our various initiatives. I'd also like to thank our customers, investors, insurance providers, and vendors for your continued support.
spk04: Operator, that concludes our call. This concludes today's teleconference. We do appreciate your participation. You may now disconnect.
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