5/26/2020

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Operator
Conference Operator

Welcome to BWLPG's first quarter 2020 financial results presentation. We will begin shortly. You will be brought through the presentations by BWLPG CEO, Mr. Anders Ohnaheim, CFO, Ms. Elaine Ong, and EBP Commercials, Mr. Niels Rigaud. They will be pleased to address any questions after the presentation. Should you have any questions, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad or type your questions into the chat box on the website. You will receive further instructions as required. Certain statements in this conference call may constitute forward-looking statements based upon management's current expectations and include known and unknown risks. uncertainties and other factors, many of which BWLPG is unable to predict or control, that may cause BWLPG's actual results, performance or plans to differ materially from any future results, performance of plans expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. In addition, nothing in this conference call constitutes an offer to purchase or sell or a solicitation of an offer to purchase or sell any securities. With that, I'm now pleased to turn the call over to BWLPG CEO, Mr. Anders Ohnheim.

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

Thank you, and welcome to the presentation of results for our first quarter. As you heard, I'm joined by our CFO, Elaine Ong, and our EVP commercial, Neil Sweedle. And thank you for taking the time to hear our presentation. If we then go to slide page four, along with the highlights, the first quarter TCE rates on our VLGC fleet averaged $42,300 per day, generating a net profit after tax of $81 million, or an earnings per share of 58 cents. We are very pleased to announce a strong commercial and operational performance in a quarter challenged by the transition to IMO 2020 Cleaner Fuel, the COVID-19, and a changing market outlook. The extra effort put in by the organization is shown in the results, and we efficiently addressed challenges to crew changes, optimized dry docking schedules, and transitioned to Cleaner Fuel to meet the new IMO 2020 requirements. On top of this, the quarter was completed with no injuries on any of our onshore or crew members. With our continued strong performance in the first quarter, we were once again able to return cash to our shareholders. The Board has declared a Q1 dividend cash dividend of 20 cents per share amounting to $28 million. With this dividend payment, we demonstrate our continued commitment to payment paying 50% of our annual net profits as dividends. Also, subsequent to the quarter end, we secured financing for five of the 12-plan dual-fuel LPG retrofittings. The additional $38 million financing covers more than 80 percent of the expected capex and will have an interest cost of LIBOR plus 170 basis points. We also announced a few things previously. We delivered our last LGC to our new owners in March, which generated $15 million in liquidity and a net gain of $5 million. In February, we also exercised two options for the retrofit of eight additional LPG dual-fuel engines. With this, we committed to retrofit a total of 12 vessels with pioneering propulsion technology. We also signed a supplemental agreement to amend our existing $458 million senior security facility to convert $100 million of term loan to revolving credit, with all other terms remaining the same. This increased our financial flexibility in these challenging times. And lastly, in February, we took delivery of a time chartering BLGC new build. Including this delivery, we now operate 47 BLGCs, and we remain the largest operator in this segment. We are well prepared for the future. First, we will be the first company in the world to retrofit vessels with LPG propulsion technology. This is an economically sensible investment that significantly reduces emissions, and paves the way for carbon emission free shipping fleet. It's important to us. Secondly, we continue to invest in our Smart Ship technology, which allows us to collect live data for our ships to increase automation, improve fuel consumption, reduce operating costs, and improve safety. If we turn to page five, we review the key financial record. So in the first quarter, we achieved a daily rate of $42,300 for the VODC segment, with 50% of the fleet on time charter contracts, and an achieved spot rate of $45,100, including waiting time. The strong spot rates were achieved as the fleet was well-positioned to benefit from the strong market in the quarter, matched with a strong operational performance. So we delivered an EBITDA margin of 78 percent, giving a return on capital employed of 15 percent and a return on equity of 28 percent. The annualized earnings yield based on quarter and market value was 77 percent. As mentioned, profit after tax was $81 million for the quarter, or 58 cents per share. Our net leverage ratio decreased from 58 percent in the first quarter of 2019 to 49 percent in the first quarter of 2020. and we were able to return $180 million in cash to our shareholders, and at the same time, significantly pay down our debt to a comfortable level. Our EVP commercial, Niels Vergaal, will now take you through our market review and the commercial update. Niels.

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

Thank you, Anders. Let me start with our updated market outlook on page 7. It has been an eventful start to the year, with OPEC Plus leaving their quotas before turning 180 degrees and agreeing on the largest oil cut in history. And of course, the spread of COVID-19. In March, OPEC Plus failed to reach an agreement on oil production cuts, which created more LPG cargoes from the Middle East. However, in April, OPEC and Russia were forced to end the oil price, following the sharp drop in oil demand caused by COVID-19. This led to a record high cut in oil production starting from May. We now see the effects of this with a reduction in the number of cargoes available in the Middle East. Starting with the LPG supply, we look ahead to the rest of 2020 and 2021, and we expect LPG export from North America to be negatively impacted by lower shale oil and gas production. However, we believe that the impact will be partly offset by the existing high LPG inventory and the fact that some producers have started to favor higher NGL production. We have also downgraded our base assumption for Middle East LPG export for the rest of 2020 and 2021 due to the agreed oil production cuts, which is expected to have negative impact on LPG available for export. The demand for retail LPG remains strong. driven by significant benefits it provides to the importing countries as a cleaner source of fuel for cooking. For the petrochemical sector, we expect demand to recover as the virus outbreak eases. In addition, demand should be further supported with about 1.7 million tons of additional PDH capacity being completed this year. On the fleet capacity side, the new building order book stands at 12%, with 10% of the fleets over 27 years old by end of 2022. The impact on freight rates from our expectations of weakening export combined with the high order book is downward pressure on utilization in the medium term. On the positive side, a sudden recovery to higher oil price scenario would positively impact this outlook, and we have already seen some signs of oil price increasing. As of 20 May, we have fixed 85% of our second quarter shift days. The obtained TCE rates on spot and time charter are on average in the mid-30s. Turning to page 8. Here we share an overview of Seabourn LPG trade in the first quarter. There was an overall increase of 2% compared to the same quarter in 2019. In the first quarter this year, Chinese LPG import fell by 20% to 3.8 million tons due to the outbreak of COVID-19. In January, China and U.S. signed the Phase 1 trade deal. From March, LPG was exempt from the import tariffs, and we saw the return of cargoes shipping directly from the U.S. to China. Towards the end of the quarter, we witnessed a rush in India demand for LPG import due to the countrywide lockdown to stem the spread of COVID-19. Similar phenomena have been observed in Brazil, as the country's import for LPG has increased more than 30% in the first half of April, compared to the same period in 2019. The overall demand for LPG remains very strong. On the export side, global LPG export continues to be driven by the U.S. Total North American LPG export reached 10.9 million tons in Q1, up 32% year-over-year. However, the gain in U.S. export were offset by the decreased export from the Middle East. Total Middle Eastern export decreased by 11% year-over-year to 8.9 million tons. Turning to page 9, we provide an update snapshot of U.S. LPG net export. EIA short-term energy outlook released in April, they reduced both 2020 and 2021 US LPG net export forecast. Though they still anticipate growth in US LPG export in 2020 by 16%, but it expects net export to decline by 11% in 2021. Turning to page 10. NewBuild order book stands of 35 vessels, or 12% of total VLGC fleets, which will give a fleet growth of about 6% next year and 3% in 2022, if no vessels are recycled. However, the recycling potential is higher than it has been in the past, with 10% of the fleets being over 27 years old, which is the average recycling age for VLGCs. This should shorten the down cycle, so we enter a weaker rate environment where several of these vessels could be recycled. We have no new buildings on order, but we are investing over $100 million in upgrading our existing fleet with LPG propulsion technology. This investment is expected to increase our competitiveness by using efficient fuel and at the same time contribute to significant reduction in emissions. This concludes our market review and we now move on to our commercial performance starting at page 12. We achieved the strongest first quarter since our listing in 2013 with a VLC fleet average TCE of $4,300 per day, which is $1,000 higher than the peak in 2015. we continue to maintain a high commercial utilization of 97.1%, reflecting only 2.9 waiting time across the fleet. A well-planned transition to IMU 2020, which secured fuel contracts, enable us to avoid bunkering, delays, and any issues related to fuel quality and specifications. Operationally, we had a strong quarter with technical off-fire of 2.7%, related mainly to the dry docking of BW Arias and the BW Sakura. The BW Arias was fitted with scrubbers and simultaneously upgraded with our smart chip technology, while the BW Sakura was upgraded with balanced water treatment system. I will now turn to patients. 13 for an overview of the time charter portfolio. Increasing our coverage has been the focus in the first quarter, and we will continue to take on coverage at the right levels. As of 31st of March, our VOGC time charter out coverage for 2020 stood at 16%, up from 7% last quarter. Our average TC rate for 2020 was 36%. $300 per day. For 2021, the TC coverage was at 5%. On the time charter in portfolio, with the delivery of BW-Yushi in February, we now operate nine BLGCs. This fleet contributes for 14% of our total calendar days in 2020, at a total cost of $55 million, or an average cost of $26,500 per day. Our net time charter position stands at $27 million for the full year of 2020, with $82 million in time charter out revenues and $55 million in time charter costs. With that, I will hand it back to Anders, who will share with you some technical highlights.

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

Thank you, Niels. If I can ask you then to turn to page 15. We delivered a strong technical and operational performance in the quarter. Despite several challenges from the market, our fleet successfully transitioned to IMO 2020 compliant fuel. Scrubbers were installed and operated without commercial disruption. The docking for the first LPG retrofit was moved to early June to both capitalize on a strong market and to ensure the safe and timely arrival of personnel and parts. The first four LPG retrofittings are expected to be completed within 2020. We now have five or six planned vessels on scrubbers. and five out of six plain vessels and scrubbers. So to page 16, Zero Harm is a BWY safety initiative, and our goal is to ensure that the safety of all employees remain at the forefront of all our shipping operations. The campaign reinforces a strong safety culture and a growing family of seafarers and shore-based staff. We work very hard to reduce any types of incidents in our journeys towards zero harm. This quarter, We're very pleased to see we achieved a zero harm goal with no injuries reported, leading to reduction of rolling average safety statistics to new low levels. Now turn to page 17 and look at the key fleet environmental data. You can see from the various graphs there that the switch in fuel consumption over to compliant fuel had given an immediate reduction in sulfur dioxide emissions. And to page 18. the LPG propulsion and our sustainability. We're the world's first to retrofit dual-fuel LPG propulsion engines on our ships. Our commitment to sustainability is demonstrated by our commitment to retrofit a total of 12 VOGCs in 2020 and 2021. This will significantly cut emissions and improve fuel flexibility. From an environmental perspective, installing new technology on the existing fleet should be appealing to our customers. The construction of a new vessel generates about 70,000 tons of CO2, while the retrofit upgrades generate only 2,000 tons. Since running on LPG as opposed to fuel oil saves close to 5,000 tons of CO2 per year. So the environmental payback is 15 years for a new build, but less than six months for retrofit. LPG propulsion has significant economic environmental benefits. Compared to compliant fuel, LPG propulsion reduces fuel consumption by 10 percent, sulfur dioxide by 99 percent, particulate matter by 90 percent, carbon dioxide by 15 percent, and nitrogen dioxide by 10 percent. And on page 19, we show you some of the operational benefits. LPG is a cleaner fuel and easier to manage. In addition, we can bunker LPG while loading cargo, just saving as much as up to four days of bunkering time per year. The FDA proposed a technology of future proof and further technological developments currently in advanced stages will allow for upgrades to allow for the use of ammonia as a fuel in the future. Ammonia is a zero carbon emission fuel and could be one solution for the shipping company industry to reach the emission target of 30% cut in greenhouse gases by 2030. Turn to phase 20. The main economic benefits from LPG propulsion comes then from the 10% lower fuel consumption, expected savings on the bunkering logistical costs of about $20 per ton, in addition to about four days of bunkering time, and the expected price differential between the LPG and compliant fuel, of course. The last one is the most significant. LPG propulsion gives us fuel flexibility, which allows us to run on a mix of fuels that at any time is most economical. And the chart below shows the historical and forward price differential between LPG and compliant fuel. For 2021, the forward market prices for LPG prices LPG at a cost advantage of $128 per ton versus compliant fuel. That equates to about $6,000 per day in savings. If that spray remains for the lifetime of the vessel, it will give a payback of about 6.2 years. on an unlevered internal rate of return of about 15%. The LPG Proposal Technology demonstrates BWLPG's commitment to a sustainable future and is an economically sensible investment that significantly reduces emissions and paves the way for carbon emission-free shipping fleets. So with that, let me turn it over to our CFO, Elaine, who will walk you through the financial positions and results.

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Elaine Ong
Chief Financial Officer (CFO)

Thanks, Anders. Turning to page 22, we provide an overview of our income statement. Our TCE income for the quarter was $162 million, driven mainly by the strong spot rates and high commercial utilization of 97%. As you can see, starting this quarter, we have broken down our TCE revenue into spot earnings and time charter revenues. We have also separated vessel operating expenses from G&A expenses. We hope these details will provide you with greater clarity on our numbers. The vessel operating expenses line now captures the running costs of our own fleet, the bare boat-in vessel, and the time charter-in vessels that have a charter period of more than 12 months. On a per day basis, our OPEX came in at $7,700. The remaining time charter-in expenses relating to time charter vessels with a charter period of less than 12 months, continue to be separated as charter higher expenses. EBITDA came in at $126 million, representing an EBITDA margin of 78%. Effective 1st January 2020, we revised our vessel's useful life from 30 years to 25 years. The quarterly impact is an increase in depreciation of approximately $5 million. Our last LGC was delivered to our new owners in March, generating $15 million in liquidity and a net gain of $5 million. Profit after tax this quarter was $81 million, or 58 cents per share. The fair value changes included a $28 million loss on our interest rate hedges and a $15 million loss on our Ford freight agreements and bunker hedges. These mark-to-market changes are deferred in equity bringing our total comprehensive income for this quarter to $37 million. Turning to page 23, we provide a snapshot of our balance sheet and cash flow statement. Our vessels book values, supported by broker valuations, stood at $1.9 billion at the end of the quarter. Shareholders' equity was $1.2 billion, or $8.37 per share. We generated $142 million of net cash from our operating activities during the quarter, and cash and cash equivalents amounted to $179 million, with $150 million drawn on our revolving credit facility. Our balance sheet and available liquidity remains healthy. Turning to page 24, with the strong cash flows generated in the quarter, we reduced our leverage further. Over the last 12 months, our net leverage ratio decreased by 9% even after paying out $118 million in dividends. This is possible because of our low operating cash break-even of $20,900 per day for our own fleet and $21,600 per day when including the time-charted in vessels. Our all-in cash break-even level for 2020 is $23,700 per day which is the average TCE needed in 2020 to cover all our cash costs, including dry dockings and the equity portion of our fleet upgrade capex. Page 25 provides an overview of our liquidity and debt position. At the end of Q1, our net debt position was at $1.1 billion. Our available liquidity stands at $329 million, with no major maturities until 2026. Our next balloon payment of 47 million is only in 2023. We believe our competitive financing and strong liquidity has positioned us to navigate through the uncertain markets ahead. With this, I would like to hand it back to Anders to conclude our presentation.

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

Thanks, Elaine. If we then summarize and go to page 27. So it was a strong quarter, both commercially and operationally, with the earnings per share of 58 cents, our net profit after tax of $81 million. And on the back was strong earnings, and taking into account our balance sheet that created the CapEx and the cautious market outlook, the Board has declared a cash dividend for the first quarter of 20 cents per share, amounting to $28 million. The dividend is 34% of net profits for the quarter, but our target is still to pay off 50%. At the share price this morning, it gives an annual dividend yield of about 25%. With the dividend announced today, the company has since its IPO declared 65% to accumulated earnings as dividends. Subsequent to the quarter end, we have signed a supplemental agreement to increase our existing 400 million loan facility by 38 million. Again, to refinance the retrofitting of the filed dual LPG propulsion engines at very competitive rates. Finally, I would like to provide a summary of our outlook from the VLGC market. Looking ahead at the rest of 2020 and 2021, we have downgraded our outlook for both U.S. and the Middle East LPG exports. We expect that this, in combination with the still high vessel order book, will put downward pressure on vessel utilization. Our outlook is sensitive to changes in the assumption of future oil prices, which could change quickly, as we've seen and Niels told you, and a recovery to higher oil price environment would affect our outlook positively. So with that, I'd like to open the call for questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. We'll begin our Q&A session now. Should you wish to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. We will now open the line for questions. We have a question from the line of Lucas Dahl. Please go ahead.

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Lucas Dahl
Analyst

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. I was wondering, on the COPEX number going forward that you disclosed of $136 million a line, how much of that have you already funded by available debt? And is there more that you expect to fund by that? So basically asking what the equity portion of that would be.

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Elaine Ong
Chief Financial Officer (CFO)

Hi, Lucas. Thanks for your question. Basically, as Anders had mentioned earlier, and we announced that we have five of the first five of the 12 LPG propulsion engines have been funded by debt at this point. The remaining seven is currently unfinanced because they don't come due to this till next year in the second half.

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Lucas Dahl
Analyst

Okay, but in sort of a base case, you would then assume to pretty much fund all of that through available debt? Is that your sort of line of thinking?

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Elaine Ong
Chief Financial Officer (CFO)

Yes. Okay. We would seek to secure financing for the remaining 70.

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Lucas Dahl
Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then just on the life adjustment on the vessels, is there any specific reason behind taking it down from 30 to 25, or what's the rationale?

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Elaine Ong
Chief Financial Officer (CFO)

Well, I think there was two things, right? There is the whole IMO 2020 impact, but also the fact that bringing it from 30 years to 25 years was also to bring it more into alignment with industry standards.

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Lucas Dahl
Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then maybe one for Anders. I mean, you delivered good results. You lower your market outlook and you are sort of cautious a bit on the dividend while still having an ambition to pay out 50%. But fast forwarding to Q2 or Q3, given your market view, Is the payout ratio presented in Q1 something we should sort of expect as a floor while the market remains a bit challenging?

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

Obviously, our target is still to pay out on an annual basis 50% of our net profits. Obviously, there will be judgments made every quarter, but obviously, we do not want to be overly aggressive in the first quarter, given that we don't want to end up having to scramble at the end of the year. So I think you can assume that our dividend policy stands firm. We will always evaluate also, given our outlook, what's the right level. But the goal for the year is to pay off 50% of our NANPAT.

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Lucas Dahl
Analyst

Okay, and then given that outlook that you have, what would be sort of the moving parts that would make it better or worse over the course of the next 12 months as you see it? Because now you are sort of preparing for something. Where could the delta come from?

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

Are you really into dividends or just in general?

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Lucas Dahl
Analyst

No, no, I was thinking about your sort of market view, right? Now you are sort of providing your output, which I think is highly appreciated. So if you were to think about any elements that could drastically change it in one or the other direction, where would you sort of think they would come from?

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

Well, I think, and Niels, you can also fill in. I mean, I think it is very much dependent on the oil price. We need a higher oil price, I think, for U.S. production to really stay high. Obviously, we think there's some mitigation factor that there will be focus on NGLs, but I think it's clearly that we believe we need higher oil prices to maintain high production in the U.S., and clearly that's going to be important. It could be, of course, we're going to watch very closely developments around the world in terms of how the refineries are coming back on stream and what the effect will be on local LPG production in the various places. There could be some upside there, but I think as it stands right now, both with the OPEC cuts and with the In the U.S., I think we are cautious, and we will take more cover if we see we can do that at sensible levels right now. U.S. analysts are as good as us in predicting the oil price going forward. Obviously, if we see permanent shutdowns to shut into production, perhaps we could see a good oil price environment towards the middle of next year, but your guess is as good as mine. Niels, do you want to add something?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

No, I think you got it right. I mean, it would be nice to say goodbye to COVID-19, but yes. Hope for the best.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Okay, well, thank you very much, everyone. Thank you for the questions. We also have another question from the line of Anders Carlsen of Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

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Anders Carlsen
Analyst

Yes, good afternoon. I was wondering, first of all, just quickly on the conversion time to helping keep propulsion. What do you anticipate in terms of off-fire for each vessel there?

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

I didn't hear your question, but if you're ready to offer, I think about two months.

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Anders Carlsen
Analyst

It's related to your conversion time.

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

Yeah, I think approximately two months, I think, is, you know, 60 days. Well, you know, around 60 days, I think, is what we're planning for.

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Anders Carlsen
Analyst

Okay. Then in terms of, you know, I think, Nils, you said something about you saw some switching to higher MDL content in U.S. production. Did I hear you right there?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

Yes.

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Anders Carlsen
Analyst

Are you seeing signs of that?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

Yes, we also see stronger demand for LPG. Okay.

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Anders Carlsen
Analyst

You're not seeing any switching to NAFTA from the petrochemical producers?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

No, we have seen that already from Europe, and we expect also the other refineries in Taiwan and Korea and Japan, obviously with the NAFTA price. as low as it is, they will probably switch back to NAFTA. Okay. We'll see. All prices are increasing now.

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Anders Carlsen
Analyst

Yeah, that's true. So in terms of what are your main concerns, I mean, what is keeping up tonight in terms of market developments? What's the worst that could happen here?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

I mean, hopefully, I think we have seen the worst. I mean, we had a lot of action in Q1. We have prepared ourselves to meet the new environment. And I'm fairly confident that we will adapt if we will see some other changes next quarter.

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

I think for us, the really important thing is we need to both stay competitive. We need to make sure that we are operating efficiently. And again, although these times, there's many, many companies talk about ESG and sustainability and so forth. We actually really believe that the LPG propulsion is part of the future. It's going to make us very competitive. And it's a real step towards sustainability. It's not just one of these glossy pages in our annual report.

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Anders Carlsen
Analyst

Okay, thank you. That's all for me.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you for the questions. We currently don't have any more questions from the line. Please continue.

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Webcast Moderator
Moderator

Okay, we have a question from the webcast here from Bob Cohen, and he starts by congratulating us on good numbers, and he has a question for Nils here. He says, U.S. production is down 20% from Q1 highs. Domestic U.S. demand is up significantly over year, and propane exports are down from its height in Q1. Can you please elaborate on how you view the U.S. energy market and how it's impacting shipping?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

Thank you. I mean, as we said earlier in the presentation, we have downgraded our view to U.S. exports in 2020 and 2021. There is certainly a downside risk to freight rates, especially from second half 2020. And we will see some pressure on utilization. Also, when we see the OPEC cuts, OPEC Plus cuts continue to cut their productions. But as we also said in the market outlook, we do think that some of the production flow will be offset by depletion of U.S. inventory and producers favoring NGL production. midstream producer maximizing fractionators with backlog of NGL.

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Webcast Moderator
Moderator

Okay, and then one more question here. Can you please comment on the impact from growth in U.S. domestic petrochemical capacity and that impact on the VLGC trade? That is, will increased domestic petrochemical demand challenge the VLGC volumes?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

U.S. domestic consumption largely remains stagnant in the long term. We are certainly aware of new PETGEM projects, but with current low oil prices, we have already seen projects being delayed due to capex reduction. I mean, one example is the Enterprise BDH2 facility being delayed to 2021.

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Webcast Moderator
Moderator

Do you expect any increases in U.S. terminal capacity?

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

Yes. We expect Netherlands expansion to complete in Q4 2020. And Targa have also announced that the expansion will be completed by Q3 2020. So, yes.

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Webcast Moderator
Moderator

Okay. Then we have a question from Petter Haugen. He says, could you please expand on the reason for the large discrepancy between achieved spot rates and the Baltic, and you're guiding for Q2 both the numbers given earlier in the call and how the different regions are expected to perform.

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Niels Rigaud
Executive Vice President, Commercial

Well, thank you, Peter. I mean, there are, well, there are two reasons, and I think the main reason is in Q1 you had the transitioning period to IMO 2020. I mean, we already started to bunker compliant fuel towards the end of October. So, obviously, we had more expensive fuel on board compared to the high sulfur. And this is, obviously, it will have the lag effect on the Baltic. The Baltic are using high sulfur. And for the rest of the year, I mean, the compliant fuel in January was in, 600 plus, and during the quarter, it went down to high 200, 300. Obviously, you will have this lag effect on the bunker, which is the main reason why we also are lagging to the Baltic. Another, which is smaller, and that's basically, it's the It's a premium market with all the difference between premium market out of the AG or out of the U.S. And we have mainly been loading out of the U.S. And the AG market has in Q1 been traded on the premium market compared to the U.S.

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Webcast Moderator
Moderator

Okay, good. So one more question from the webcast from Bob Cohen. With respect to commodity trading, are you still trading for your own book and how should investors think about counterparty price risk, base risk for this part of the business?

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Anders Ohnaheim
Chief Executive Officer (CEO)

I can really start answering that. I mean, clearly our commodity trading is an integral part of our shipping business. We do this really to secure utilization for our shipping. And obviously, yes, there are some other types of risks that we need to understand and control. But in the end, every year we're exposed to the shipping market. And for us, this is really a way of laying off risk, not taking on additional risk. And we, of course, have very, very firm and strong internal routines in our risk management. And so I think... I think investors should at least appreciate this as being a complement and not a separate trading activity. And it does give us a few more tools in our toolbox when the market is either liquid or for other reasons. So I would say, and particularly in a difficult market, I would think that our product and services is going to be an even more important part of the shipping business. But again, remember, it's a part of the shipping business. It's not a separate trading business.

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Webcast Moderator
Moderator

Okay, thank you for that, Anders. Then there's no further questions on the webcast.

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Operator
Conference Operator

So back to the operator. Thank you. We have come to the end of today's presentation. Thank you for attending BWLPG's first quarter 2020 financial results presentation. More information on BWLPG is available online at www.bwlpg.com. Goodbye. Thank you for your participation.

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