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spk02: Good morning and welcome to the Byline Bancorp second quarter 2022 earnings call. My name is Sam and I will be your conference operator today. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer period. If you would like to ask a question, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star and two. If you are listening via speakerphone, please lift your hands prior to asking your question. If you require operator assistance, please press start, then zero. Please note this conference call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to introduce Brooks Rennie, Head of Investor Relations for Byline Bancorp, to begin the conference call.
spk05: Thank you, Sam. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the Byline Bancorp second quarter 2022 earnings call. In accordance with Regulation FD, this call is being recorded and is available via webcast on our Investor Relations website, along with our earnings release and the corresponding presentation slides. Management would like to remind everyone that certain statements made on today's call involve projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. We caution that such statements are subject to certain risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed. The company's risk factors are disclosed and discussed in its SEC filings. In addition, certain slides contain and we may refer to non-GAAP measures, which are intended to supplement but not substitute for the most directly comparable GAAP measures. Reconciliation for these numbers can be found within the appendix of the earnings release. For additional information about risks and uncertainties, please see the forward-looking statement in non-GAAP financial measures disclosures in the earnings release. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Alberto Parchini, President of Byline Bancorp.
spk09: Brooks, thank you. Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to review our second quarter earnings call. We appreciate all of you taking the time to listen in. Joining me on the call today are Chairman and CEO Roberto Herencia, our CFO, Lindsey Corby, our Chief Credit Officer, Mark Fusinato, and our Treasurer, Tom Bell. Before we get into the heart of the call this morning, we want to comment on the CFO transition we announced in conjunction with our earnings release yesterday. For that, I'd like to pass the call over to our chairman, Roberto Herencia.
spk10: Thank you, Alberto, and good morning to all. I am delighted to announce the appointment of Tom Bell, who is currently our treasurer to the CFO position, and also Cheryl Olano, who is currently our corporate controller to the chief accounting officer position effective August 15th of this year. As you know, Lindsey Corby, who's currently our CFO, will be leaving to pursue an attractive opportunity outside of the banking industry with a privately owned trading firm here in Chicago. We are no doubt sad to see Lindsey leave, but we are comforted by the fact that she's just going across the street. She bleeds byline and is such a fan of ours. And she leaves the finance area in great shape and in excellent hands. Tom Bell has been the treasurer of byline since its recapitalization. We have known Tom and worked with Tom Alberto and myself since before byline. So we know, He is not only the logical choice, but the best choice. He has over 30 years in banking experience. He started with the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago and has assumed important roles with other banking organizations. Equally important, Sheryl Alana, who's currently the corporate controller, has been with us since 2014, and she has over 20 years of banking and accounting experience. at financial institutions. We spend a considerable amount of time here at byline in people initiatives, from training, to leadership development, to wellness, and succession planning. And in the last three years, in the last several years, this is the third change that we've announced with respect to executive officers. And in all of those cases, we have promoted from within, which speaks to the depth of our team and our succession planning process, a hallmark of ours. Pass back to Alberto.
spk09: Thank you, Roberto. And now moving on to the review of our results. As is our practice, I'll start by walking you through the highlights for the quarter before I pass the call over to Lindsey, who will provide you with more detail on our numbers. Turning over to the highlights on slide three of the deck. In summary, we were very pleased with the results for the quarter and the first half of the year. While the outlook for 2022 has changed materially since the start of the year, our businesses have performed well and we've capitalized on opportunities to continue to grow the business. Our clients remain in good financial shape, continue to operate with ample levels of liquidity, and we continue to see good demand for credit to support investment and expansion. That said, economic activity is expected to continue to slow, inflation remains problematic, and higher interest rates create additional challenges for both consumers and businesses. Notwithstanding, The strength of our strategy, diversified business model, discipline expense management came through in our second quarter results, which portrayed another solid quarter of earnings and growth. For the quarter, Byline had net income of $20.3 million or $0.54 per diluted share. This is a bit lower than last quarter, but results include a $4.6 million mark on our servicing assets. which cost us about 12 cents per diluted share. As we discussed back in October during our third quarter earnings call, fair value marks are part of the business, can go up and down in a given quarter, but are not reflective of our operating earnings, which carried over consistently from the first quarter. Our profitability and return metrics were solid across the board. Pre-tax preparation revenue was $32 million, which translated into a pre-tax preparation ROA of 184 basis points. Return on assets came in at 117 basis points, while ROTCE was a healthy 14.1%. Moving on to the balance sheet, assets grew by over $300 million, and total assets now exceed $7 billion for the first time. Our performance continues to be positively impacted by strong loan growth, which carried over nicely from last quarter. Loans ex PPP grew by 405 million, or 34%, linked quarter annualized, and we crossed over the $5 billion mark on the portfolio. This was the fifth consecutive quarter of solid net loan growth, and that, as of quarter end, reflected portfolio growth of 29% on a year-over-year basis. Results were driven by strong growth across our CNI, leasing, and sponsor businesses, coupled with lower payoffs across the board. Net of loan sales, we originated $443 million in loans, a record level for the company, and up from $325 million last quarter. Line utilization saw another uptick and now stands at 56.2%, which provided a tailwind to additional growth in commercial balances. Our government-guaranteed lending business also had another solid quarter of strong loan production with $125 million in closed loans, which, as expected, was lower than the first quarter. We remain a market leader in this business, and as of June 30th, we are the fifth largest 7A lender in the U.S. Moving over to the liability side, total deposits stood at $5.4 billion as of quarter end, down 2.6% on a link quarter basis, but up 5.8% year over year. The mix remains strong with DDAs representing 40.5% of total balances. Deposit costs increased 8 basis points to 16 basis points for the quarter as we came off the cycle lows and start seeing the impact of higher rates. Revenue for the quarter came in at $75.8 million and was driven by robust net interest income up 5% from the prior quarter and 6% year-over-year. As we indicated during last quarter's call, we expected to see our margin lag initial rate increases because of floors and the quarterly reset of our SBA portfolio. We saw that this quarter with our margin contracting by five basis points to 3.76%. The decline was also driven by lower PPP fees. Our margin remains strong and our position remains favorable to rising rates. On page eight of the deck, we added additional information for you that shows 99% of floating rate loans are no longer impacted by floor restrictions. Non-interest income came in at $14.2 million down from the prior quarter, driven largely by the mark we took on our servicing asset. Our efficiency ratio remained in the 55% range. And lastly, our deposits per branch increased to 142 million as of quarter end and reflect the branch consolidations announced in Q4 of last year and completed during the quarter. As a quality remain relatively stable for the quarter and we remain vigilant and proactive with respect to credit given the uncertainty in the environment. NPL's ex-government guaranteed loans increased by 13 basis points, driven largely by a single borrower that we moved to nonperforming status during the quarter. The relationship entails a commercial borrower with multiple pieces of performing and nonperforming collateral that we're in the process of working out. Given our secured position, we don't anticipate the lost content to be material, if any. NPA showed an uptick as we took in one property into REO as part of a loan workout. Charges increased from the very low levels experienced last quarter to 24 basis points this quarter, and our allowance increased to $62.4 million, largely driven by portfolio growth. Capital levels remain strong with a CET1 ratio of 10.3% and total capital ratio of 13.1% as of quarter end. Our performance and strong capital position allowed us to continue to return capital to stockholders with the repurchase of 232,000 shares of our common stock. This being in addition to our quarterly common dividend of $0.09 per share. We believe our balance sheet strength positions as well to continue supporting organic growth and investing in the franchise while returning capital to stockholders. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Lindsay.
spk04: Thanks, Alberto. Good morning, everyone. I'll start with some additional information on our loan and lease portfolio on slide four. Our total loans and leases were $5.2 billion at June 30th, an increase of $357 million or 30% annualized from the end of the prior quarter. Payoffs were relatively flat quarter over quarter, coming in at $128 million. We believe payoffs will increase in the coming quarters. I'll note that this will be the last quarter we reference PPP loans as the balances and related financial impact are reaching levels that are relatively insignificant to our results on a quarter-over-quarter basis. Furthermore, based on our year-to-date results, we are updating our loan and lease growth guidance for the full year to low to mid-teens, up from high single digits previously provided. All else equal, our outlook does imply a slower rate of loan growth in the second half of the year compared with the pace of the first half. Our current pipelines are healthy and we are optimistic about the future of byline. Turning to slide five, we'll look at our government guaranteed lending business. At June 30th, the on-balance sheet SBA 7A exposure was $479 million flat from the prior quarter with $102 million being guaranteed by the SBA. The USDA on-balance sheet exposure was $64 million nearly flat from the end of the prior quarter of which $26 million is guaranteed. We continue to see stable trends in this portfolio, and as a result, we've decreased our allowance as a percent of the unguaranteed loan balance to 6.6% from 7.4% at the end of the prior quarter. Turning to slide six, total deposits decreased by 2.6% compared with the first quarter. This was primarily due to lower commercial deposits and business accounts as a result of seasonal fluctuations that typically occur at the end of the second quarter due to business needs. Total average deposits increased by 1.6% compared with the first quarter, driven by growth in both average interest bearing deposits and average non-interest bearing demand deposits. Total average deposits increased by 7.7% compared with the year ago period. Our deposit composition and ability to generate core deposits continues to be a strength of our franchise. Commercial deposits represent about half of our total deposits, and 76% of non-interest-bearing deposits. During last quarter's call, we mentioned that with rising rates, we would anticipate deposit pricing pressure at some point during the year. In the second quarter, deposit costs were 16 basis points, increasing 8 basis points from the cycle low in the prior quarter. Moving on to net interest income and margin on slide 7. Our net interest income was $61.6 million for the quarter, an increase of 4.9% from the prior quarter, This was primarily due to higher average balances of loans and leases, which more than offset the impact of higher interest expense on deposits, reflecting the rising rate environment. Net interest income on a year-over-year basis increased 5.9% driven by our ability to replace PPP loans with organic loan growth. On a gap basis, our net interest margin was 376, down five basis points from last quarter, but up from the year-ago period. Accretion income on acquired loans contributed 8 basis points to the margin, slightly down from 10 basis points in the last quarter. PPP interest and net fee income combined contributed approximately $746,000 to net interest income, compared to $2.7 million last quarter. The yield on loans and leases, excluding PPP, was 474, up 9 basis points from the first quarter. With all of that said, our margin remains strong, both in absolute terms and relative to peers. remaining in the top quartile for banks of our size. The NIM performed as we expected in Q2, and as a result of the rising rate environment, our asset-sensitive profile and organic growth, we believe net interest margin, excluding accretion and PPP, will begin to expand during the second half of 2022. Moving on to slide eight, we believe our asset-sensitive balance sheet positions us well for rising rates. The asset sensitivity is principally driven by our loan portfolio, of which 56% of loans, including PPP, are variable rate, and nearly all of those with floors are currently priced at or above the floor. We estimate that an instant 100 basis point increase in interest rates will result in an additional 7.8% increase in net interest income, which, to reiterate guidance provided last quarter, every 25 basis point increase would result in approximately $4 to $5 million of additional net interest income on an annualized basis. We believe with SBA loans repricing in July and rate hikes during this quarter, coupled with floating rate portfolio being repriced going forward, positions us well for future margin expansion. Our loan to deposit ratio increased at quarter end at 96% as a result of deposit fluctuations. We believe the ratio will trend back down to the lower 90s as balance will return from commercial relationships during the quarter. Turning to non-interest income on slide nine, Non-interest income decreased from the prior quarter primarily due to a negative $4.6 million loan servicing asset revaluation expense due to higher discount driven by lower premiums on government guaranteed loan sales. We sold 118 million of government guaranteed loans in the second quarter, an increase of 16% linked quarter. The net average premium continued to be strong at 10% during the quarter, which was, as expected, lower than the first quarter. Our pipeline for government-guaranteed loans remains strong, and we continue to anticipate premium pressures next quarter due to negative market conditions resulting from higher interest rates and higher government-guaranteed inventory levels in the secondary market. Moving on to non-interest expense trends on slide 10. Our non-interest expense was $43.8 million in the second quarter, a decrease of 2% from $44.6 million in the prior quarter. The decrease was primarily attributed to three factors. First, we saw a decrease of $1.3 million in salaries and employee benefits related to lower payroll taxes and higher deferred salary costs related to loan and lease origination. Second, due to higher reimbursements of legal fees. And third, we saw a decrease in occupancy and equipment expense due to the net effects of our branch consolidation and real estate strategy. We remain focused on expenses and continue to look for opportunities to offset the expense pressures as a result of inflation. We are reaffirming our quarterly non-interest expense guidance to trend between 45 and 47 million. Turning to slide 11, asset quality continues to remain stable, reflecting our diverse portfolio and disciplined risk culture. Our non-performing assets increased 21 basis points to 54 basis points of total assets in the prior quarter, and net charge-offs were $2.9 million in the second quarter. Total delinquencies were $15.8 million on June 30th, a $13 million or 46% decline linked quarter, reflecting lower commercial loan delinquencies. Our second quarter allowance increased to $62.4 million from $59.5 million at the end of March and represents 121 basis points of total loans. Reserve build was driven by an increased provision primarily due to growth in the loan portfolio and higher qualitative factors surrounding the macroeconomic environment and rising interest rates. And while we do not see any broad-based signs of deterioration in our portfolio today, we believe that the uncertainty in the economy warrants the current level of allowance coverage. Turning to slide 12, we display our strong capital ratios and return of capital. Through the first six months of the year, we returned approximately 47% of our earnings to stockholders through the common stock dividend and our share repurchase program. We believe our capital ratios position us well to pursue both organic and strategic opportunities while managing our capital through dividends and opportunistically executing on share repurchases. As previously stated, we want to run our total common equity to tangible asset ratio between 8% to 9%. Our TCE ratio at 865 gives us the ability to grow our balance sheet while utilizing share repurchases and dividends to return capital as needed. With that, for the last time, Milberto, back to you.
spk09: Thank you, Lindsay. Moving on to slide 13, we were very pleased with our results for the quarter, in particular, our ability to adapt to the changing rate and economic environment. Loan growth exceeded expectations, net interest income growth was strong, and expenses were balanced for both near-term efficiency and long-term investment. Looking ahead, there is uncertainty in the environment given higher inflation, higher rates, and geopolitical disruptions. Regardless, we believe our balance sheet, diversified business model, disciplined expense management, and focused execution of our strategy will continue to provide the foundation for our success. In closing, pipelines remain healthy and we're in a strong position heading into the back half of 2022. We're optimistic about our ability to continue to grow the franchise while creating additional value for our stockholders. I'd like to thank our employees for their hard work and unwavering dedication to our clients and business. With that, operator, let's open the call up for questions.
spk02: Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. If you would like to withdraw your question, press Start and 2. If you are listening via telephone or speakerphone, please lift your handset prior to asking your question. Our first question comes to the line of Terry McEvoy from Stevens. Terry, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk12: Hi, thanks. Good morning, everyone. And first off, Lindsay, I've enjoyed working with you since the IPO, and you will be missed. And Tom, congrats. Look forward to working with you more.
spk04: Thanks, Terry. Appreciate it.
spk12: Maybe just start with a question. Lindsay, just when you think about your margin outlook, could you help us understand how you kind of internally are looking at the composition of your deposits in terms of any sort of mix shift from non-interest bearing to interest bearing? And you provided some comments on loan growth. What do you think deposit balances do from here over the remainder of the year?
spk04: Sure, Terry. Yep, great question on the margin. Yeah, I would say that when we look at the margin, given the higher interest rates, we do think that you'll start to see some shift into higher yielding deposit products, in particular money market and time deposits. So when we look at our betas and what we're seeing going forward, we're currently modeling about 40% for interest-bearing deposit betas during the second half of the year, Terry. So that's Teri Miller, kind of to give you a little bit of color there and then in terms of your second part of the question around the deposit growth yeah we continue to remain focused on deposits. Teri Miller, We really manage the balance sheet looking at the average deposit balances Terry so we did see a slight increase quarter over quarter in terms of average balances and we'll continue to watch that here as we go forward. We've seen great pace of loan growth and we obviously are very active in the market making sure when we get a lending relationship that we get the deposit relationship with it as well. So trying to offset as much as we can with core funding and we have plenty of liquidity and availability to pull other levers as needed.
spk12: Thanks for that. And then as a follow-up, you were active on the branch closure side which has helped the expenses. I'm just wondering if you noticed any any impact on those customers where the branches were closed and the deposit balances and relationships there?
spk04: Sure. In terms of the branch closures, we do monitor that pretty closely, Terry. You tend to see a little bit of runoff in terms of the higher yielding deposits, particularly in time deposits, but nothing outside of the ordinary of what we've seen in the past and has met our expectations in terms of what's happened there. Good performance. Our retail team does a great job in terms of reaching out to customers and making sure that their needs are taken care of and help with the transition given the closures. So nothing out of the ordinary and has been in line with what we've seen in the past.
spk12: Okay. And then just some clarity, the page 8 when you said, was it the loan-to-deposit ratio is 96? And, Lindsay, I wasn't quite following you on that. You expect that to go lower? I couldn't quite understand the reason why that was going to drift lower.
spk04: Sure. So there were fluctuations right at that very end of the quarter with some of our commercial customers. And we do anticipate that we'll be going back lower into the lower 90s here as time goes on and those deposits come back into the bank. So there's just some seasonal fluctuations that occurred. at the very end of the quarter, Terry, and we do anticipate that it'll trend back down.
spk12: Okay. Thanks for clearing that up, and thanks for all the help with the questions. Thanks.
spk03: Absolutely. Thanks, Terry.
spk02: Our next question comes from the line of Ben Gerlinger of Hoved Group. Ben, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thanks, guys. I was curious how you guys are managing, you're approaching the growth for the latter half of the year. Was there anything pulled forward? And with that, is the goal to really manage NII growth or is it to hold the margin? I get that you're going to get a lift from rates. Just kind of how you balance those three?
spk09: Yeah, Ben, good question. I would say it just starts with the opportunities that we see in the market. So if we have the ability to grow our business, you know, add new relationships, continue to support our customers, I mean, first and foremost, before we're targeting net interest income or the margin or anything like that, it's really focused on that. You know, that is kind of the first the more important thing that we pay attention to. As it pertains to the growth, you know, and I think you guys have been giving us a hard time like the last couple of calls in terms of, you know, our loan growth guidance. And you have proven us, you know, to be a little bit off. I mean, we still, you know, think that to Lindsay's comments, you know, clearly it looks like loan growth this year is going to exceed that guidance. TAB, So I think what we're trying to convey is we still think at least from this point on we're going to see kind of that. TAB, You know mid single digit to kind of high single digit range for the remainder of the year, we do think. TAB, There will be payoff activity, you know over the course of the year that that will be realized that we haven't seen yet. But obviously, we're reflecting the fact that the last several quarters, we've grown certainly at rates that exceed that. So I think that's what we were trying to convey, Ben.
spk08: Gotcha. Okay. And then kind of just from a 10,000-foot view, in terms of the clients that you're banking, is there seemingly any pressure points that are building to the surface here? It seems as though... The headline of a recession is selling newspapers, but from a boots on the ground perspective, it don't seem like there's a lot of pressure points that weren't already known, whether it be wage inflation or commodity pricing or things like that. Is there anything that we're missing that would be driving stronger loan growth, but could eventually turn into theoretical credit issues down the road?
spk09: And we don't, I think it's, I think we separate probably what we see based on the performance of our clients and the performance of the loan book as we review loans, as we review relationships, as we renew loans on an ongoing basis. I think in general what we're seeing, Ben, is as of the end of the quarter, clients are doing pretty well financially. Good levels of liquidity, certainly compared to pre-pandemic levels, higher levels of liquidity. That being said, I think it's really a function of the outlook. Clearly, we're operating in an environment of much higher inflation. We have seen a lot of our customers be able to pass through increases in input costs to end customers in order to maintain margins. There's a question as to what degree can they continue to do that. But we really don't know the answer to those questions. We just kind of have to wait and see how clients do relative to an environment that certainly we all expect the economy slowing down as the Fed continues to raise rates to to kind of ease up on the inflation pressures that we're seeing.
spk08: Gotcha. All right. Well, that's helpful, Collar. And I also like to echo Terry's points and saying great working with you, Lizzy. And congrats to everyone who's taking the new seats. Looking forward to working with everybody going forward.
spk03: Thanks, Ben. Appreciate it.
spk02: Our next question comes from the line of Nathan Race of Piper Sandler. Nathan, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk11: Yeah. Hi, everyone. Good morning. Good morning, Nate. Going back to Terry's last question in terms of the dynamics with deposit flows, it sounds like, you know, you'll have some deposit growth in the third quarter. And I'm just curious if the step-up in funding costs that we saw here in 2Q, if that's kind of a good proxy to use going forward with, you know, deposit costs accelerating upwards and maybe that's offset by just less wholesale funding on the balance sheet with that kind of deposit replacement after the increase in wholesale that we saw in the second quarter?
spk04: Sure. So, great question. In terms of The cost, yeah, they did go up quarter over quarter, and we did guide you to that last quarter. So I do believe we'll continue to see the deposit costs go up, and, again, it's a function of our loan-to-deposit ratio and competitive pressures in the market. So we continue to watch, and competitors seem to be lagging there early on, but I think with this recent rate increase, I think you're going to see competitors begin to increase prices on their deposits and increase the cost. And it's going to come through here, I think, in the third quarter a little bit faster than it did in the second quarter. So the fluctuation that you saw in terms of the borrowings at the end of the quarter was just, again, a function of what happened at the very end of the quarter with our commercial base. So that was a little bit elevated. But you will obviously see an increase on the borrowing side as rates continue to rise here, Nate. So I think there's all of those factors at play. going into Q3 and beyond.
spk09: Yeah, Nate, the only other thing I would add is I think it's important to keep in context kind of the starting points for this because, you know, when it's looking at some of our peers and other institutions reporting numbers and we hear about comparisons, you know, well, this bank saw this, this bank saw that, and certainly that's part and parcel to what you guys do. But I think it's important to keep in context kind of what the starting point and ending points are likely to be. Because, you know, you could have a relatively lower sensitivity, but your starting point is much higher. Therefore, you're going to end up, you know, on an absolute basis still with higher costs. And, you know, when we think about our business, you know, we were coming off cycle lows of deposit costs around eight basis points. So, you know, we're not really that concerned about, you know, seeing an uptick of, you know, eight basis points or something like that. Rates are higher. The Fed has moved, obviously, very aggressively, you know, 225 basis points so far year to date. When we were expecting maybe at the beginning of the year at this point, we'd be seeing 50 basis points. So we're pretty happy with
spk11: know eight basis point sensitivity relative to 225 basis points movement and rates just some context got it that's very helpful thank you um changing gears and just kind of thinking about the uh sba uh premiums going forward is the magnitude of the step down that we saw here in 2q is that reasonable to expect in 3q with you know the fed raising rates by a similar degree at least thus far here in the third quarter? Does the kind of pace of decline slow from here to some degree?
spk04: Sure. Great question, and I wish I had a crystal ball to give you a perfect answer here, Nate, but we do see pressures. We do think we're reaching a bottom here at some point, but we're not sure at the end of the day. I do think you'll see a little bit more pressure here. We do have the ability to hold loans on balance sheet if needed, Nate. So if premiums go to a level where the earn back makes more sense to hold the loan, we do have the ability in the balance sheet to do that. So we do think that you'll see pressures and I think you'll see some improvement in the end of the year here in terms of premiums as the inventory gets pushed through and market conditions stabilize.
spk11: Got it. Makes sense. And just kind of one broader question on just the loan growth and kind of overall organic balance sheet growth prospects in here. Obviously there was a large M&A integration that occurred recently in Chicago. So just curious kind of how you guys are thinking about share gain opportunities at this point. Have you guys seen opportunities to add talent or do you feel like the opportunity to grow market share is feasible with kind of the existing team in place?
spk09: Nate, as you know, we're always looking for opportunities to add talented bankers to Byline. We think we have a great platform serving local businesses here in Chicago, and we think our platform for bankers looking to have access to not only products, services, capabilities, sophistication on the credit side, but also really being in a position to serve clients well, we are, you know, above anybody else when it comes to offering that. So we're constantly looking for that and we're constantly looking to continue to grow relationships in the market. So I think that the short answer to your question is yes to both of the questions.
spk11: Okay, great. Lindsay, it's been great working with you over the years. Best of luck at your next endeavor and look forward to hopefully staying in touch.
spk03: Sounds good. Thanks, Nate. Appreciate everything.
spk02: Our next question comes from the line of Damon Delmont from KBW. Damon, your line is now open. Please proceed with your question.
spk06: hi thanks and good morning everyone uh lindsay it was a short uh experience and i only picked up coverage not too long ago but i know our our roots go way back so congrats and best of luck and and tom i look forward to getting to know you and working with you as well um so with that being said just wanted to uh ask a couple couple quick questions here a lot a lot of good things have been asked and answered already but on the uh on the expense side um you know the re uh recommitment to that to that 45 to 47 million dollar range You kind of attribute that to just some of these one-time items this quarter that go away and you kind of go back to our normalized loan rate. Is that kind of how you think about that?
spk04: That's spot on.
spk06: Okay. All right, great. And then as far as the little bit of uptick in non-performing loans this quarter, can you just give a little bit more detail on what drove that and kind of where they stand in the resolution process?
spk09: Yeah, this is, Damon, this is kind of the regular course of business. We have relationships that we monitor continually. This particular situation was just simply an entrepreneur owning various properties of different types. This is a relationship that we have been monitoring for some time in the traditional sense going from you know, watch through special mention. And one of the properties in the collateral pool, the client is really having struggles with. We are well secured. It's a multiple, you know, it's a pool of multiple pieces of collateral. And we're frankly just simply being proactive. We decided that the issues with this particular property warranted, you know, classifying the entire relationship as a nonperforming loan. And we will be in the process of working out the loan in the regular course of business. This is real estate secured. We feel we're very well secured here with the amount of collateral that we have. So as we said in the comments, we don't expect the lost content here to be material, if any.
spk06: Got it. That's great, Collier. Thank you. And then I guess lastly, just a technical question on the tax rate. What would be a good effective tax rate to model for the back half of the year?
spk04: Sure. So assuming no tax rate increase, I'd say it's same guidance of 25% to 27%.
spk06: Okay, perfect. Great. And congrats again, Lindsay.
spk03: Thanks, Damon. Appreciate it.
spk02: As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question today, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. Our next question comes from the line of Brian Martin from Jene. Brian, your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning, everyone.
spk07: Good morning, Brian. Hey, just maybe good morning. Just on the... uh reserve side you guys kind of took up the reserves a little bit this quarter uh just a lot of talk about the recession just kind of thinking about how we think about that going forward and then maybe just uh within the portfolio itself just maybe where you guys are being doing a little bit more monitoring a little bit more concerned are there any areas you guys are more focused on as far as you know where the bigger risk is today on the portfolio as you look forward given all the macroeconomic concerns
spk09: Yeah, so the first part of the question, Brian. So I think, you know, we think the reserve we are well reserved and the reserve is adequate as of the end of the period. As a reminder, as you know, we are still accounting for our reserve under the incurred loss model. So we're not a CECL adopter yet. We will be a CECL adopter on the last day of the year this year. So you will see that in the fourth So I think from that standpoint, the reserve really just simply reflects, obviously, good growth that we've had in the portfolio, as well as you alluded to certain qualitative adjustments to the reserve to, you know, account for the uncertainty in the economic environment.
spk07: Okay, and are there any areas that you guys are more concerned with today when you look at the portfolio or kind of where the greater risk in the portfolio is today? You gave any kind of color on that or just how you're thinking about it?
spk09: Yeah, I think, I don't know that I would say that we have anything specific, but we've been really, really focused probably since before the beginning of the year on We had concerns around how our business is going to come out of all of the stimulus that we saw during the pandemic. Monitoring the portfolio, monitoring customers, doing internal portfolio reviews continually has been a practice that we've been following for some time now. can't really give you anything. We're not seeing anything as of yet, but we're certainly looking for it in anticipation that, you know, at some point, you know, we're going to start, you know, seeing some degree of, you know, credit weakness, given the fact that the economy is likely to continue to slow. But we can't point to that yet, you know, Brian, but, you know, we're really, really vigilant to try to isolate and try to find any sign of weakness in the portfolio as quickly as we can.
spk07: Got you. No, that's helpful, Alberto. Thank you. There's a lot of talk about the premiums on the SBA side. On the other side of it, just the volume, can you talk about other opportunities to increase the volume there and maybe just even change the mix a bit as you look forward, given kind of what the roadmap appears to be on the premiums? Just maybe any context on that would be helpful.
spk04: Sure. So the gain on sale is a function of volumes and premiums, right? So I did state in my prepared remarks that the pipelines are healthy. You know, I'd say, Brian, the biggest piece there is if the premiums get to a level that we prefer to hold the loans, we have that ability. So our team has shown a great track record of being able to produce, and the volumes have come. Again, we're coming off of an all-time high year last year. So just keep in mind that 2021, and in particular September 30th of 2021, 2021 was the peak and that was the end of the subsidy. So that was really an outsized quarter for us and frankly, an outsized year. So the team continues to work hard and staying the course in terms of production and pipelines remain full right now. So we'll keep an eye on it and keep you posted here as we go forward.
spk07: Okay. And just Lindsay, how low, I guess, when you talk about the range of where it could go to before you might want to think about putting more on the balance sheet, I mean, can you give any parameters on how low that would be? You know, I guess if we go back over time, was there a point in time where you guys were putting more on the balance sheet at certain levels?
spk04: Sure. So, I mean, at the end of the day, it's a loan-by-loan basis, Brian. But, you know, I'd say when you look at the premiums and you go back a while, I'd say when you looked at when the government shut down and we had to stop, you saw our Gain on sale go to a lower level. And then also in the first quarter when COVID hit, you saw premiums go down. Those are kind of a good floor to kind of look at in terms of premiums going back. But I'd say that's really the better spot when it hovers down into those ranges. I'd say that's really where we think about, okay, does this make more sense? And we'll run the math on each loan and see what the earn back is and figure out are we better off to sell it or hold it. So we do think that things will improve. We think this is temporary, but we do think that there will be improvement and we can hold them a little longer and sell them later if need be.
spk09: Brian, the math is straightforward. It's not a, we don't have a black box. We simply look at the carry that we can earn on the loan over, roughly speaking, a three and a half or four year period, which is typically the life of these assets. And we take the present value of that and compare it to the premiums that we can get in selling the loans in the market. And that's essentially the math from a big picture standpoint.
spk07: Yeah. No, that's helpful. I appreciate all the color. And it's been great working with you, Lindsay. I wish you the best of luck. And hopefully we can stay in touch. So congrats, Tom. Great.
spk03: Thanks, Brian. Thank you.
spk02: We next have a follow-up question from Nathan Race from Piper Sandler. Nathan, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
spk11: Yeah. Thank you for taking the follow-up. My question was kind of answered in the last line of questioning, but just curious kind of what you guys are seeing in terms of SBA credit quality. I know SBA loans constitute a bulk of the charge-offs here in the second quarter, and so I think investors are increasingly focused on that asset class just as 7A borrowers get rate-shocked. with what the Fed's done recently. So I'm just curious if you guys are maybe tightening your underwriting box to some degree going forward, and if that may kind of impact volumes as well in the future.
spk09: Mark, would you like to take that one?
spk01: Well, obviously, the rate increase for those customers is something we're going to watch very carefully. But credit quality in that book right now is actually pretty stable. um we're seeing some activity in upgrades we're seeing some activity on downgrades and a few charge-offs but um i think they're in fairly good shape right now and we again we we're pretty vigilant on looking at the effects of the rates that we're going to see here in the third quarter pretty much every weekly or bi-weekly basis with them so i don't anticipate a lot of degradation here in the third quarter for that portfolio
spk11: Okay, great. And I was remiss earlier not to congratulate Tom and Maria as well.
spk03: Thank you, Nate.
spk11: Thank you, guys.
spk03: Thanks, Nate.
spk11: Thank you.
spk02: Thank you for your question today. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Alberto Parachini for any closing remarks.
spk09: Great. Thank you, Sam. In closing, and before we close for the day here, I want to acknowledge and thank my colleague and good friend, Lindsay Corby, for being a great partner during the 20 earnings calls that we've hosted over the last five years. It's been an honor and a privilege to have worked closely with her for the last nine years. On behalf of the company and all of us at Byline, we want to thank her for her commitment, her leadership, hard work, and the contribution she's made over that time. We'll certainly miss her, but we want to wish her nothing but the very best that she embarks on a new journey and look forward to having her as a commercial customer soon. I would also like to welcome Tom to the fold, and we look forward to working with him going forward in his new role. That concludes the call for today. Thank you for your time this morning and your interest in Byline, and we look forward to talking to you again next quarter. Thank you.
spk02: This concludes today's call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
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