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Citigroup, Inc.
4/14/2026
Hello, and welcome to Citi's first quarter 2026 earnings call. Today's call will be hosted by Jen Landis, head of Citi Investor Relations. We ask that you please hold all questions until the completion of the formal remarks, at which time you'll be given instructions for the question and answer session. Also, as a reminder, this conference is being recorded today. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. Ms. Landis, you may begin.
Thank you, Operator. Good morning, and thank you all for joining our first quarter 2026 earnings call. I'm joined today by our Chair and Chief Executive Officer, Jane Fraser, and our Chief Financial Officer, Gonzalo Lucchetti. I'd like to remind you that today's presentation, which is available for download on our website, citigroup.com, may contain forward-looking statements which are based on management's current expectations and are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances. Actual results may differ materially from these statements due to a variety of factors, including those described in our earnings materials as well as in our SEC filings. And with that, I'll turn it over to Jane.
Thank you, Jen, and good morning to everyone. We picked up right where we left off last year with an exceptionally strong start to 2026. This morning we reported net income of $5.8 billion for the first quarter with an EPS of $3.06 and an ROTCE of 13.1%. Four of the five core businesses saw revenue up double digits. Revenues were up sharply at 14%, and we had another quarter of very healthy positive operating leverage. The continued strong performance across our lines of business shows the benefit of a diversified model, which continues to drive consistent, predictable revenue growth. Services, our crown jewel, had an exceptional first quarter. New mandates were up 40%, while the combination of client-driven growth and fees underpinned a 17% increase in revenues. Cross-border transactions were up 12%. Deposits grew by 16%, and assets under custody and administration were up over 20%. Markets crossed $7 billion in revenues for the first time in a decade. Equities was up nearly 40%, surpassing the $2 billion revenue mark, driven by derivatives, prime services, and cash. And FIC, up 13%, saw notable performance in commodities and FX. Banking continued to build momentum, with fees up 12% amidst a record first quarter for us in M&A. ECM was up over 60% while we continued to gain share with sponsors. We advise on the three largest deals so far this year, Paramount, McCormick, and EQT AES, demonstrating how we are far better penetrating the C-suite. Supported by continued investment in talent, clients are increasingly looking to Citi for our advice in addition to our execution capabilities. With revenues up 11%, wealth saw its eighth straight quarter of growth, and its returns continued to improve. Now, as you know, its results now include U.S. retail banking. Citi Gold and retail banking were up 13% as we leveraged our branch footprint to capture assets that our clients have with other firms. Investment revenue grew 11%, with client investment assets up a pleasing 14%. U.S. consumer cards saw 4% revenue growth, with spend up 5%, and delivered a 19% ROTCE, as American consumers remained resilient. With our portfolio heavily weighted to prime, delinquencies and credit losses declined and are well in line with expectations. You can now see how we've lined up the reporting of this business with our strategy as we focus on growing our general purpose portfolio and optimizing our private label portfolio. In the quarter, we demonstrated our confidence with the repurchase of $6.3 billion of shares, and we are close to completing our $20 billion share buyback plan.
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and 10 basis points above our regulatory capital requirement, and our tangible book value grew by 8% from a year ago. As we look towards upon the 2023 version, it's not yet where it should be, and we should be active in advocating for necessary changes in the comment period. consequential changes in our firm's history, our business investments, the transformation, the simplification, divestitures, de-layering, and modernization. We have not yet reached our destination, and we will continue to be solely focused on executing our vision and relentlessly driving our business performance. We've now entered the final phase of our divestitures, and we continue to drive down our stranded costs. In February, we completed our divestiture with several prominent investors to sell an additional 24% of Banamex in transactions that are expected to close in the coming months. And we're on track to close the sale of our consumer business in Poland this summer. The momentum we have established in our businesses can also be seen in our transformation, which remains our other top priority for the year. 90% of our programs are now at or near our target state, and our firm is materially safer and sounder as a result of this work. We've started to reduce the spend on our transformation programs, resulting in an improvement in our operating efficiency this year and beyond. We're methodically deploying AI at scale across the firm to drive revenues and process improvements, enhance client experiences, and strengthen our defensive capabilities. And you'll be hearing much more about this on Investor Day. Switching gears, the global macroeconomy to date has weathered shock after shock. However, the impact of the Middle East conflict is hitting Asia and Europe harder than countries such as the US and Brazil, which are more insulated from energy shocks. Clearly, the longer this goes on, the more pronounced the second or third order impacts are going to be around the world. And inflation is now a greater risk to growth and will likely cause central banks to lean towards more restrictive monetary policies. Consistent with our position throughout the last decade, we continue to be a source of trust and financial strength for our clients during turmoil. We intentionally designed a very resilient strategy that performs in different environments, and the last few years have borne that out. You can see it in the deposit and loan growth, in our high-quality loan portfolios and robust balance sheet built on the foundation of disciplined risk management. And we have the capital we need to continue to grow as we support our clients. So, with a very strong first quarter behind us, we remain well on track to deliver the 10% to 11% ROTCE for the year. At our investor day next month, we will lay out a clear vision for how we will continue to grow each of our five businesses organically and deliver sustainably higher returns over time. This is an exciting time for our firm. We have momentum behind us, and we are looking forward to sharing the path ahead with you next month. With that, I will turn it over to Gonzalo, and then we will be happy to take your questions.
Thank you, Jane, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin, I would like to start by thanking Jane and Mark for their support and providing a very smooth transition to my role as CFO. I'm excited to build on the momentum they've created as we focus on delivering higher, sustainable returns and value for our shareholders. As I stepped into the role, three elements stood out to me quite distinctively. First, we have a formidable foundation, underscored by a robust balance sheet, rigorous risk management, and a well-diversified business model, which gives me confidence in our ability to produce durable results. We are a source of resilience and strength for our clients in a range of environments. Second, I'm excited about the opportunity to help deliver significant return improvement over time by driving client-led growth, continuously pursuing productivity improvement, and deploying capital to accretive return opportunities. Finally, I'm highly energized by our relentless focus on execution. I see how each of our businesses and teams operate with urgency, focused on driving performance every single day. And my role will be to ensure we are strategically purposeful and tactically disciplined in resource allocation. We are firmly in execution mode, and I feel it is time to continue to elevate Citi and leave an indelible mark on a 200-year-plus iconic firm. With that, let me remind you that on April 3rd, we published a recasted historical financial supplement for our reportable business segments to facilitate comparability with the results this quarter and going forward. Additionally, the results for the segments this quarter reflect the TCE allocations for this year, and we've included additional details on this in the appendix of the earnings presentation. Now, turning to the quarter, I'll start with the firm-wide financial results, focusing on year-on-year comparisons unless I indicate otherwise, then review the performance of our businesses in greater detail. On slide six, we show financial results for the full firm, which demonstrate the progress we've made and the momentum of our strategy. This quarter, we reported net income of $5.8 billion, EPS of $3.06, and an ROTC of 13.1% on $24.6 billion of revenues, generating positive operating leverage for the firm and the majority of our five businesses. Total revenues were up 14%, with growth driven by each of our businesses and legacy franchises, as well as the impact of FX translation partially offset by a decline in corporate others. Net interest income, excluding markets, which you can see on the bottom left side of the slide, was up 7% driven by growth across all businesses and legacy franchises, partially offset by a decline in corporate other. Non-interest revenues, excluding markets, were up 29% driven by growth across all businesses and all other. And total market revenues were up 19%. Expenses of $14.3 billion were up 7%, with an efficiency ratio of 58%, which I'll provide details on shortly. And cost of credit was $2.8 billion, primarily consisting of net credit losses in U.S. cars, as well as a firm-wide net ACL bill of $597 million. On slide 7, we showed the expense and efficiency trend over the past five quarters. As I just mentioned, expenses increased 7%. And you can see on the bottom of the slide, we incurred nearly $500 million of severance as we target efficiencies across our expense base and bring down headcount. Excluding severance, the increase in expenses was 4%, primarily driven by effects as well as volume and revenue-related expenses, including compensation and transactional and product servicing expenses, partially offset by lower legal expenses. As you can see on the bottom right side of the slide, in addition to severance, growth in compensation and benefits included investments we've made to support growth in the businesses, as well as performance-related expenses, partially offset by productivity saves, stranded cost reduction, and lower transformation expenses in corporate other. And it is worth noting that this expense increase was against 14% revenue growth, resulting in an improvement in our efficiency ratio of approximately 400 basis points. On slide eight, we show U.S. cards and corporate credit metrics. As I mentioned, the firm's cost of credit was $2.8 billion, primarily consisting of net credit losses in U.S. cards, as well as a firm-wide net ACL bill. Embedding the firm-wide net ACL bill is a farther skew to the downside scenario, reflecting the increased uncertainty in the macroeconomic outlook. And our reserves now incorporate an eight-quarter weighted average unemployment rate of approximately 5.4%, which continues to include a downside scenario average unemployment rate of nearly 7%. At the end of the quarter, we had nearly $22 billion in total reserves with a reserve-to-funded loans ratio of 2.6%. We continue to maintain a high credit quality card portfolio with approximately 85% of balances extended to consumers with FICO scores of 660 or higher, and a reserve to funded loan ratio in our U.S. cards portfolio of 8%. Looking at the right-hand side of the slide, you can see that our corporate exposure is 78% investment grade, and in the quarter, corporate non-accrual loans as well as corporate net credit losses remain low. We are confident in the high quality nature of our portfolios, which reflect our robust risk appetite framework, rigorous client selection, and our focus on using the balance sheet in the context of the overall client relationship. And this quarter, we included a slide in the appendix of the presentation that shows Citibank's loan to non-bank financial institutions, including $22 billion of corporate private credit, which is 100% securitized, 98% investment grade, and not a significant component of our overall exposure. Turning to capital and the balance sheet on slide 9, where I will speak to sequential variances. Our total assets of $2.8 trillion increased 5% driven by growth in trading-related assets, cash, and loans. Net end-of-period loans increased 1%, with client-driven growth in banking and markets partially upset by a seasonal decline in U.S. cards. Our $1.4 trillion deposit base remains well diversified and increased 3% driven by growth in services as we continue to deepen with clients with a focus on high-quality operating deposits. We reported a 114% average LCR and maintained over $1 trillion of available liquidity resources. In the first quarter, we continued to deploy capital to support client-driven growth while at the same time prioritizing the return of capital to common shareholders as evidenced by the $6.3 billion in buybacks executed, which includes the benefit from the sale of the remaining operations in Russia. We ended the quarter at 12.7% CET1 ratio under the binding standardized approach, approximately 110 basis points above the 11.6% regulatory capital requirement, including a 100 basis points management buffer. Turning to the businesses on slide 10, we showed the results for services in the first quarter, Revenues were up 17% with the best first quarter in a decade, driven by growth across both TTS and security services. NII increased 18%, driven by higher average deposit balances and deposit spreads. NIR increased 15% as we continue to see strong activity and engagement with both corporate and commercial clients and across key high-growth segments, including e-commerce and fintech, driving momentum across underlying fee drivers with cross-border transaction value up 12%, and assets under custody and administration up 21%, which includes the impact of the market valuations, as well as new assets onboarded. Expenses increased 14%, primarily driven by higher volume and revenue-related expenses, higher compensation, as well as higher technology costs. Average loans increased 14%, largely driven by export agency finance and working capital loans. Average deposits increased 16%, with growth across both North America and international, largely driven by an increase in operating deposits as we continue to deepen relationships with existing clients and onboard new clients. Services generated positive operating leverage and delivered net income of $2.2 billion, with an ROTCE of 27%. Turning to markets on slide 11, markets had its best quarter in over a decade, with revenues up 19%, driven by growth in both fixed income and equities, with strong momentum across client segments, including corporates, asset managers, hedge funds, and banks. Fixed income revenues were up 13%, with growth across spread products and other fixed income, as well as rates and currencies. Rates and currencies was up 6%, driven by effects on higher volumes and optimization of the balance sheet, largely upset by rates. And spread products and other fixed income was up 27%, primarily driven by strong growth in commodities. Equities revenues were up 39%, driven by continued momentum across derivatives, prime services, and cash. We grew prime balances by more than 50%, with growth across both new and existing clients, as well as higher market valuations. Expenses increased 11%, primarily driven by higher performance-related compensation, as well as higher volume-related and legal expenses. Average loans increased 27%, primarily driven by financing activity in spread products. Markets generated positive operating leverage and delivered net income of $2.6 billion, with an ROTCE of 18.7%. Turning to banking on slide 12, revenues were up 15%, driven by investment banking and corporate lending. Investment banking fees increased 12%, driven by growth in M&A and ECM, partially offset by a decline in DCM. M&A was up 19% and represented our strongest first quarter in a decade, with continued growth in sell-side fees and strong performance with sponsors. ECM was up 64%, reflecting growth in follow-ons and convertibles against the backdrop of an active market. And while DCM fees were down 6% amid lower non-investment-grade activity, we maintained our overall market share versus year-end 2025. Corporate lending revenues, excluding mark-to-market and loan hedges, declined 3%. Expenses increased 20%, primarily driven by higher compensation and benefits, reflecting performance and investments, and higher volume-related transaction expenses. Cost of credit was $132 million, consisting of a net ACL bill of $126 million, reflecting the increased uncertainty in the macroeconomic outlook and exposure growth, largely offset by refinements to loss assumptions. We continue to feel good about the high-quality nature of our corporate lending portfolio, with non-accrual loans and net credit losses remaining low. Banking delivered net income of $304 million, with an ROTC of 15.8%. Turning to wealth on slide 13, revenues were up 11%, driven by growth in city gold and retail banking, as well as the private bank, partially offset by a decline in wealth at work. NII, which you can see on the bottom left side of the slide, increased 14%, driven by higher deposit spreads and average balances, partially offset by lower mortgage spreads. NIR increased 5%, driven by 11% higher investment fee revenues, partially offset by the sale of the trust business. NEN new investment asset flows were approximately $15 billion in the quarter, contributing to approximately $43 billion in the last 12 months, representing approximately 7% organic growth. This contributed to client investment assets being up 14%, which also includes the impact of market valuations and was partially offset by the sale of the trust business assets. Expenses increased 1%, driven by investments in technology and higher volume-related expenses, partially offset by lower compensation and benefits, including the impact of the sale of the trust business. Average loans were up 6%, as we continue to grow securities-based lending and deploy balance sheets to support clients and drive client investment asset growth. Average deposits were up 4%, largely in the private banks, as net new deposits were partially offset by outflows and a shift from deposits to higher-yielding investments, including on Citi's platform. Wealth had a pre-tax margin of 18%, generated positive operating leverage, and delivered net income of $432 million, with an ROTCE of 10.8%. We remain confident in the path to higher returns from here as we continue integrating our retail banking business within wealth and building on its improved performance this quarter. Turning to U.S. consumer cards on slide 14, as we've said in the past, customer preferences have continued to shift toward general purpose cards, and as such, we've provided disclosures for this segment to show metrics split between our general purpose and private label portfolios. This quarter, revenues were up 4%, driven by growth across both NII and NIR. NII was up 3%, driven by higher interest earning balances and spreads. And NIR was up 14%, driven by lower partner payment accruals and higher annual fees. We saw momentum in underlying drivers supported by growth in general purpose cards, with acquisitions up 12%, spend volume up 6%, and average loans up 4%, partially offset by declines in private label cards. Expenses increased 1 percent. Cost of credit was $2.1 billion, consisting of $1.7 billion of net credit losses, which declined 11 percent, as well as a net ACL bill of $350 million, reflecting seasonal portfolio mischanges, the forward purchase commitment of the Barclays American Airlines co-branded card portfolio, as well as increased uncertainty in the macroeconomic environment. This was largely offset by lower seasonal volumes and refinements to loss assumptions. U.S. CARs generated positive operating leverage and delivered net income of $732 million with an ROTCE of 19.2%. Turning to slide 15, we show results for all other on a managed basis, which includes corporate other and legacy franchises and excludes divestiture-related items. Revenues were up 15%, driven by growth in legacy franchises, largely upset by a decline in corporate others. Growth in legacy franchises was driven by Mexico consumer, which included the impact of Mexican peso appreciation, momentum in underlying business drivers, and a gain on the sale of an investment, partially upset by the impact of continued reduction from our closed exit and wind-up markets. The decline in corporate order was driven by lower NII, which included a lower benefit from cash and securities reinvestment, resulting from actions taken to reduce cities' asset sensitivity in a lower interest rate environment, partially offset by higher NIR. Expenses were down 4%, driven by lower legal and transformation expenses, as well as expenses related to close exits and wind-downs and professional services expenses. This was primarily offset by higher severance and the impact of FX translation. Cost of credit was $400 million, primarily consisting of net credit losses of $371 million driven by loans in Mexico. To close, we've included our full-year 2026 outlook on slide 16. While there remains a lot of uncertainty at this point, our overall expectations are unchanged. Subject to macro and market conditions, we expect NII ex-markets up approximately 5% to 6%. NIR ex-markets growth driven by momentum in services, banking, and wealth, and an efficiency ratio of around 60%. In terms of credit, we expect a total U.S. credit cards NCL rate of between 4% and 4.5%, which is lower than the aggregate of the expectations that we provided previously for branded cards and retail services, reflecting the delinquency trends and lost performance we've seen year-to-date. And the ACL will continue to be a function of the macroeconomic environment and business volumes. Additionally, we remain well-positioned to return capital to shareholders and plan to provide more detail on our expectations for share repurchases going forward at our investor day in May. As we take a step back, the results in the first quarter represent significant progress towards our goal of improved firm-wide and business performance. We remain steadfast and focused on executing our transformation and confident in delivering our ROTC target of 10% to 11% this year and And we look forward to laying out the path to delivering higher returns beyond that at Investor Day. With that, Jane and I would be glad to take your questions.
At this time, we will open the floor for questions. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 5 on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself at any time by pressing star 5 again. Please note, you'll be allowed one question and one follow-up question. Again, that is star 5 to ask questions. and we'll pause for just a moment. Okay, our first question will come from Glenn Shore with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open, please go ahead.
Hi, thanks very much. Wonderful. I think we get the great trading and banking results. I want to talk about services if we could. One is if you could give any color on the $4 trillion win on the BlackRock Middle Office servicing ETF platform or portfolio. And then two, maybe bigger picture, talk about what you think maybe I and the rest of us could be underappreciating in terms of the growth outlook in services, including tokenization as a good thing as opposed to maybe the threat that people might think it is.
Thanks. Yeah. Hey, Glenn. Good to hear from you. Thanks. Look, service's exceptional performance this quarter comes from successfully executing the strategy that Shamir and his team precisely outlined at our investor day two years ago and then going beyond it. We've told everyone this is a through-the-cycle business, which consistently delivers strong returns in a range of environments. And this quarter, the team did just that. Revenue's up 17%, deposits up 16%, fees up 14%, returns at 27%. This is firing on all cylinders. But part of your question, why is this business growing so much? So the growth is coming from deepening with existing clients, new client acquisition, and new product innovations. Our investments over the last few years, I think, are best demonstrated by the 40% growth in new client mandates. We have a very high retention of existing client business, and we have what can only be described as exceptional win rates. We are the leading franchise, not only in share, but in innovation. And you're seeing momentum across the board. For example, as you point out in digital assets, we are leading in tokenization. We've been investing in this for many years. I've talked about it on many of the recent calls on this. This is a benefit for us in driving and meeting more of our client needs in an always-on world. and an instant world. You're seeing us in real-time payments, where we are doing a lot of business with the global e-commerce juggernauts. And as you say, in security services, we laid out a strategy of growing share with North American asset managers, ETF and in other spaces. And frankly, BlackRock is the most notable win we've had. It is far from the only. And we're also benefiting from our focus on seed generation, which continues to make over 30% of our revenues across different macro environments. So there's a reason we call services our crown jewel. It is incredibly durable. Our offerings are deeply embedded in our client operations that creates lasting relationships and stable deposits. There is always a flight to quality when there are things going on in the world. and we are quality.
Maybe we could just follow up with, you know, a lot going on in the world. There was some conversation about linking you to some interest in being a bigger retail bank in the United States. You know, watching you fold the business into wealth and, you know, tweaking the strategy. I know that lack of low-cost deposits has been a thing in limiting your profitability in the past, but you seem to be getting by now without that. I wonder if you could just comment in terms of just aspirations or not on that front. Thanks.
Let me kick off. I want to be crystal clear. We are only interested in and focused on organic growth. Period. End of story for the whole firm. We have achieved a lot in the last five years. We have a lot more to do. And there is a large organic growth opportunity ahead of us across all five of our businesses. And that is what we're focused on. And we're excited about it. So I would say, Glenn, and for everyone listening on the call, if you walk away from this call thinking of nothing else, let it be this. Citi has a lot of momentum and we're not going to be distracted from it. Now let's turn to the question about the retail bank and what are we looking at there. The retail branch network is 650 branches. The deposit base that we have across wealth and the retail bank in the U.S. is about $284 billion. The footprint is a targeted one. It's in six urban markets with an affluent client base that covers a third of the nation's high net worth and affluent households. That's 40% of the ultra high net households. So it's highly aligned with the wealth business. It's an important source of clients for our investment franchise. We saw a lot of top-line momentum from the franchise last year. It was up 21% on the retail banks. And we look forward to continue improving its profitability and its performance and realizing the synergies between it and wealth organically.
Our next question comes from Mike Mayo with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
I just want to... for you to be even more clear than you were already. You're only pursuing organic growth. Does that mean that Citi is not pursuing a deal or an acquisition? There's been so many articles, and as investors say to me, where there's smoke, there's fire. There's been so many articles about Citi pursuing an acquisition. So are you saying Citi is not pursuing a deal? You're not thinking about Citi pursuing a deal, and that's 1,000% off the table?
I am always transparent. I'm always straightforward with you. I want it to be crystal clear. We are not interested in anything other than organic growth.
Okay. And then a separate question as it relates to the transformation. You're now up to 90% done. And I guess the question you can't answer is since you're done with the safety and sound as part of the transformation, I have a tough time reconciling while the consent order is still on. when regulators are focused on safety and soundness, but I'm sure you put your best foot forward in that argument. But what you can answer is the last 10%. Is there a last mile problem with the last 10% of the transformation, or is this continuing to move forward? And what is that last 10% and what's left?
Yeah. So I'm, There is no challenges for us ahead. 2025 was a real turning point for us on the transformation, and we just continued the strong execution into 2026. We're finished with the vast majority of the work. As I've said earlier, 90% of the transformation programs are now at or mostly at city's target state, and they're operating in BAU mode. So what does that mean? What's left? For each major body of work, what you have to do is redefine our target state and the work that needs to be done to achieve that target state. We are at or nearly at those city-defined target states for all the bodies of work except our data programs. And the remaining work of that 10% is primarily related to data used in our regulatory reporting. And, Mike, I'm pleased with our progress on this. We are executing well. However, once we are operating well at our target state, what happens next? We pass that work over to our independent audit team for validation. Once it's validated, each major body of work is then handed over to our regulators and they go through their assessment. They move to their closure process when they are satisfied with the work. And this takes time. And let's be very clear, they control the timeline. So completing the work is just the beginning of the end. From an investor point of view, you can see the transformation expenses have started to come down as we complete the different bodies of work. This is helping create capacity for investments in AI and other strategic business priorities. And at Investor Day, Mike, I will detail the many benefits that we have been gaining from the transformation process.
Our next question comes from John McDonald with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.
Hi. Good morning. Gonzalo, I was wondering if you could give a little bit of a take on the new Basel and G-SIB proposals and what they mean for Citi. Any initial estimates on the impact if they were approved as proposed?
All right. Well, thank you, John, and good morning to everyone. Pleased to be here. As we look into the rules, our expectation is that overall, There will be a net benefit to Citi. You have seen that in the estimates from the regulatory agencies as it relates to the Category 1 and 2 banks. And we see a moderate net benefit on what has been published. But, of course, when you look at the full stack with the first capital buffer, we expect, you know, an even additional benefit there. Some puts and takes, of course. When you think about RWA and those pieces related to Basel III, you have the components of retail and corporate credit providing a benefit. And that, you know, mitigated by the operational risk, the CBA and the market risk, as you probably would expect. And then on the other side, on G-SIB, even if we probably have feedback for regulators there, at the same time, you can see in this G-SIB, there's benefits from the coefficient going back to 2019, as we have been advocating for. Thank you.
So does that result in a net benefit to Citi at this point, Gonzalo, in terms of the RWA presumably up a little bit and the G-SIB down a little bit? Is there a net benefit that you see on the initial proposal?
Moderate net benefit, yes.
Thank you. Okay. And then just a question for you also on the efficiency ratio. You started off very strong at 58, even with the big severance in the quarter. Could you give some context to the target for 60 for the full year? What are the puts and takes if you're starting at 58? I assume there's some seasonality from the first quarter, but just walk through the 60 target versus starting so strong at 58.
Thank you very much, John, and I'm glad you kind of answered your own question there, given how much you know about us. That's good to see. But maybe before I get into the specifics, maybe it's worth grounding ourselves in how we think about expenses, right? Our approach is really to maintain very strong cost discipline on a tactical basis, and in addition is to be driving structural efficiencies over time so that we can enable and allow ourselves to make the targeted investments that we think are necessary in order to drive our returns consistently over time. to a higher place. So that's really our mantra and what we're focused on. So when you look at and you break down those expenses for the quarter, and you have that 7% growth, obviously anchored by the 14% revenue growth, which drives that 400 basis point improvement in operating efficiency, you have the effect of the severance that you mentioned there. And you can see at the bottom of the page, we provided an earnings. You have effects playing a role. Of course, the revenue-driven costs and transactional costs attach to our revenue that you can see in transactional revenues and costs and also in some of the compensation pieces. And we're also making targeted investments, right? We've done it in services. We're doing it in banking. We're doing it in wealth. And for us, it's important to be able to have that balance. And so as we look through the year, we're comfortable. We're sitting with around 60% for operating efficiency, and it's primarily on the basis of Yes, you alluded to it. There's seasonality that comes with the first quarter. Usually markets have the strongest quarter of the year on the first, and that is true in this case as well. And we also think it's important to be able to balance that seasonality as well as recognize that we're trying to make targeted investments so that we can get our returns to be higher, right? Our objective, in my mind, is very simple, right? We're focused on driving sustainably, improving returns over time, not just to give you short-term upside. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Ibrahim Poonawalla with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Good morning, Ibrahim. So I guess just following up on that, so Gonzalo and Jane appreciate the seasonality in the business. When sort of putting together the momentum you have, the way you're talking about sort of just across businesses, we look at the 13% return on tangible equity that he earned this quarter. I have a hard time thinking why it should go down to the 10% to 11% range, even adjusting for some of that seasonality on expenses and markets revenue. Just maybe frame it if you think there are areas where Citi may be over-earning in any given quarter that's boosting the Roth 3 to 13, and if that logic is missing something.
Let me... jump in with one point, and I'm going to go British on you. One great first quarter does not a full year make. The first quarter is always the strongest. And we do have an unclear macro environment ahead, and we want to continue investing. So I think what you're hearing from us clearly is we've confidence in being able to deliver the 10% to 11%. We want to keep investing in the business, as Gonzalo was just talking about. Revenue growth is important. We'll be talking through the investments we want to make to continue the pretty impressive revenue growth we've had the last few years and intend to continue having. So I would just make it as simple as that.
Got it. And I guess maybe just quickly on the capital front, It was good to see buybacks ramp up this quarter. As we look forward, do you think we stay in a holding pattern in terms of the CET1 ratio where it ended this quarter? How do we think about incremental capital leverage at CETI beyond just optimizing how capital is deployed?
Thank you, Ibrahim. Good morning and good to hear you. I think a couple of things stand out. Of course, for those that are referencing the tag, you can go to page nine and you can see there at the bottom left of the slide, kind of it goes to the core of your question. We have guided in the past that our objective was to, through this year, be at around 12.6%. And so we're basically there as it relates to Q1. But let me walk you through for a second on what has been driving that. First, you can see us in this quarter, right, basically reducing the excess that we had above our regulatory capital and the management buffer that we have carried for some time. So that gives you a signal of how we are, you know, we're basically at or around where we want it to be. Now, we came at this from a couple of angles, right? First, the earnings power that you saw in the quarter, right, which was very strong. And in addition, we closed the sale of our Russia entity in the middle of the quarter. That released within the quarter about $4 billion of capital. And we've been very thoughtful and active in thinking about the deployment of that capital. You can actually see it even on the slide and through the results that RWA deployment is really to anchor the activities that we're driving with our clients and the intense engagement that we have with them. It's no surprise that markets also had a very strong quarter on the back of the support that we gave. So as you see us, and I'm using this as a micro example of how we think about it so that hopefully it's helpful. You had an event-driven component. Obviously, you had earnings, which over time will be the primary driver, but you have an event-driven component. A part of that goes to support accretive growth return opportunities for our businesses. In addition, another piece goes into the buybacks that we just announced for the quarter, which are high watermark at 6.3. And obviously, there will be more to come as we go into investor day.
Thank you. I'd jump in with just three observations as well. First of all, He said still gold-plated relative to the Basel standard. So the economy has grown significantly since the original framework was created, but the current proposal doesn't fully account for that growth. We're going to be very active in advocating for that, as you've been hearing from some of the other bank CEOs. Secondly, there is still material duplication between the NPR and the current stress capital buffer for operational risk, for market risk, for CBA. And that needs to be eliminated in the revised Fed SCB models. And the third piece, which I know you've heard from us on many occasions, our SCB still does not reflect our strategy. So fully the diversions we've made, other elements of it, and really the risk profile the bank has today, which is so different from what it was in the past. So I think those three elements are things that we're obviously going to be active on, and I hope will also be helping us going forward.
Our next question comes from Jim Mitchell with Seaport Global. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. I think we all appreciate the breakout of the card business on its own, and we can see some solid profitability there. But it does also highlight, I guess, the low profitability of the consumer branch banking segment. I know we'll hear more of this at Investor Day, but can you just kind of discuss what the issues are there and what you see as the opportunities to improve efficiency and returns in that segment?
Thank you, James, and good morning. So I'm assuming it broke down there for a little bit, but I'm taking your question as more focused on the retail bank, right, and how we think about the return profile. So if you look at what we did – yes, thank you. Thanks for confirming that. So if you look at our ROTC for the quarter, and that's an all-in, and I know we've restated in the supplement. You can actually see the history there. You can see that our ROTC at 10.8, of course, is not where we want it to be. And of course, we have more work to do. But if you think about it from going back to a year, right, it's almost doubled in the year since. So Jane was alluding a little bit to this earlier. We have made progress both in our retail bank franchise as well as in our wealth franchise in terms of driving consistent revenue growth and positive operating leverage. And that will take us home. That's basically the simplest version. So if you look at last year, The wealth business in aggregate with this new recasted element was growing at 16% revenue and 1% expenses. That's 15 operating leverage. If you look at this quarter, you can see the 11 and the 1. So another quarter of very strong operating leverage, and that comes on the back of the good momentum that we have on deposit volumes, mix management, pricing management, that give us the confidence that there's sustainability there, as well as the good levels of activity there. and the focus on NNIA and driving client investment assets so that we can, you know, over time also balance the business there between investments and deposits. The more quarters we can put together, you know, in the future with the same kind of profile around, you know, solid revenue growth and maintaining the discipline that Andy and the team have kept on driving continuous productivity while still investing for growth, the closer we're going to be to getting to the ranges that you would expect and that we would push and expect of ourselves as well. So I have good confidence, and you can kind of see the momentum. We know we have to show it still, but you can see in the recent past that we make the progress, and I have confidence in the immediate future. Thank you.
Right. Great. And maybe just as a follow-up and pivoting to just private credit, any thoughts and detail on your exposures and how you're thinking about the credit risk there would be helpful.
Sure, thank you. So maybe a couple of thoughts there. Maybe let me step back. First, I feel very good about our position. We wanted to provide additional transparency and disclosure. You can see that on page 23. But let me start with what gives me comfort across a range of corporate exposures, including our private credit piece, and I'll go there as well in a second. First, we have a very strong risk appetite framework. When you think about customer selection, we're very rigorous there. You know we do business with global multinational companies. with top-tier sponsors and asset managers. These are folks that have strong balance sheets and have, you know, the ability to withstand different environments. And secondly, we are not one-product relationships, right? We are, in most cases, multi-country, multi-product, multi-year relationships. So that gives us confidence. The second piece is we have, you know, very strong protections, right? And we look at concentrations, which range from single name to country to geography. to sector, to industry, and across the board. We look for correlations to make sure that we're not missing things, right, that may be linked in sometimes hidden ways. You have seen the great performance, right, with NCLs and NALs, both low and stable. You have seen us also be very prudent in terms of reserves, right, and so we feel we're adequately reserved there. And then, you know, last but not least, we are constantly stress testing our portfolios in the private credit space and in all the spaces to make sure that both for a range of microeconomic environments, but also for event-driven aspects that we're passing our own tests and we're comfortable with how we're sitting there. So the constant monitoring, the risk-capital framework all play a role. Now, we gave you a bit more clarity because we thought it was important to provide. You can see it's not a significant exposure for us, right, at $22 billion of loans, 98% investment grade. And that's because we have ample subordination, right, in terms of the position that we take and all the protections that I was alluding to. We also have additional protections in terms of our collateral. We have fraud controls. You know, we utilize third parties where appropriate so that we just don't rely on attestations and warranties. And so we feel We feel very good and comfortable that we are able to navigate a range of environments with a portfolio, and it's all anchored in the strength of our risk appetite that we built over time. This is not built in a day. It comes from years of, you know, constantly strengthening.
Our next question comes from Monongo Salia with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Gonzalo, I just wanted to clarify, you know, as you have some of these business exits and you get a temporary benefit from CTA, are you saying that that gives you the opportunity to be more nimble on your capital deployment strategy, you know, whether it's in buybacks or in the markets business as you get that benefit between, you know, the announcement and the actual deconsolidation?
All right. Thank you, Manon, for the question. So what I would say is, and I mentioned a little bit earlier, right, for us, it is really a balance, right? When we have events like in the case of Russia that we just saw, and I'll allude to your comment, which I think was a little bit more specific to Banamex, right, as it relates to the consolidation. What I'll mention is we're always looking for opportunities to deploy that capital constructively in a creative way to support our businesses and support our clients. I think Q1 just gives me magically, a very good example of our behavior. So you can actually see it come through in real life versus just me describing it in general terms. But on the basis of, on the back of the Russia event with the $4 billion of relief, you have seen us, you know, both support our businesses and anchor some of the results that you just saw in the quarter from markets, as an example, and a couple of other businesses. And at the same time, you're seeing the highest level of buybacks that we've done, you know, in any quarter on the 6.3%. And that's supported by an event like that. Now, as it relates to Banamex, as we've alluded in the past, there is a temporary capital benefit that happens both on the 25% sell-down that we announced and executed during the fourth quarter last year, as well as one to come when we complete the closing of the second branch of the sell-down of the 24% that we announced recently, which will happen over the next few months, right? And that's temporary in nature. You were alluding to it, too. Clearly, you've started all of us very well, Manon, which is a deconsolidation. You can expect the CTA to come back, right? We've been clear in the past that that will attract about, you know, an eight and a half or so CTA adjustment that will flow through a P&L. But, you know, in aggregate, it's capital neutral. Thank you.
Got it. Okay, great. And then... Maybe just pivoting over on the expense side, you know, you've been pretty clear that as part of the transformation project, Citi is not just delivering on the ask from the regulators, but also taking the opportunity to invest in modernizing. So I guess my question is just beyond the transformation, how do you view your current tech stack versus where you want it to be? And how are you thinking about tech spend going forward?
Yeah, we'll go into a lot of detail about this at Investor Day in terms of laying out not only in technology. We'll spend quite a bit of time on AI and the structured strategic approach that we're taking to this firm-wide. So in the three weeks, you're going to get a lot of clarity around all of this. I feel good about the modernization we've done as we've moved our tech stack from a multiplicity of different platforms into singular platforms, and at the same time, making sure that we've got good, simple, singular processes end to end that we have been working on simplifying and automating over the last few years. I think we feel good about that side. We feel good about the investments we've been making. in leading-edge innovations in technology, like our city token services, like Payment Express and services. I could give you a long list in wealth and what we're doing in markets, et cetera, but we'll leave that for the 7th. And I think above everything, the other area we're really happy about is the investments we've made in our data architecture, where we are on a single repository for all of our data for institutional and a single one for consumer, enormously beneficial in the world of AI that we're living in. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Ken Houston with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Just to follow up on the NIH side, first of all, seeing the very strong end of period and average loan in the cost of growth, and I know looking at the supplement, there's a little help from FX Translation in there, but upper single-digit growth, just wondering how sustainable that is, especially on the deposit side, and if you saw any environmental-related benefits that possibly might not continue.
Thanks very much, Ken, and good to hear you. I think as we look at the NIIX markets, and maybe just to refresh everybody's minds, what we guided for the year, and it's on the deck, is 5% to 6% NIIX market growth, and that is anchored by around mid-single-digit growth for both loans and deposits. We're pleased that Q1 is a good showing against that. As you highlighted, there is a bit of effects playing a role there for the 7% that we deliver, but we are comfortable in that guidance. And And the part that I like the most about it is that most of that growth is really anchored on client-driven activity, right? And our commercial intensity, how we're pushing to win in the market with our customers, whether it's, you know, in services, whether it's in wealth, both of those are driving deposits, right? Services up 16% deposits, wealth up 4%. All of that blends to the 11% that I think you were marking. And then in terms of loans, ex-markets, we are growing significantly. at the 5% mark, which is, again, in line with our guidance. And you can see that coming through in wealth. You can see it coming through in U.S. cards and also in services with expert financing and working capital. So, you know, as I said, most of the growth is really being driven by the commercial intensity, the client engagement, and how we're winning in the market with our proposition, and that's a good place to be. There are smaller contributions into it, from both the pricing discipline that we've shown, right? Beta is quite stable for us, and that, to me, is a proof of our value proposition is performing, how embedded we are in our clients. We are a global network on the services front and the quality of our advice and engagement on the wealth business. On the other side, I think we mentioned this before in the past, is our investment securities portfolio. As it rolls off, you know, through the year, we're able to reinvest it at higher rates than before. So, all those pieces are helping, but it's really, the client activity that drives the bus here. Thank you.
Great. And thank you for that. And then as a follow-up to your point, the first quarter also started above the range, 70% X markets year over year. And so I just wanted to ask, I know maybe you still face being conservative with the five to six. Can I assume that the American Airlines card is in the guidance? And why wouldn't you continue to be 7% if the volume side you just went through is pretty sustainable? Thanks.
Thanks very much, Ken. I give you points for a very sneaky and smart way of asking if I want to have the guidance, and the answer is not at this stage. We are comfortable with the guidance. Yes, first let me answer the first part of your question. The American Airlines Barclays portfolio that is coming in in this second quarter is, of course, fully factored in. And we know, you know, if we feel confident in the client activity that we're seeing, and at the same time we know that, as Jane said a little bit earlier, right, For all those modelers out there, don't just do one times four, because we know we have to manage through, you know, some degree of uncertainty, inflation, growth, and other pieces that are playing through. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Stephen Chuback with Wolf Research. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking my questions. So you've been, hey Jane, you've been crystal clear using your words on the commitment to focusing on organic growth. Now, one factor which has contributed to below peer returns is the large DTA or unallocated capital base. It remains stubbornly high. The pace of DTA utilization remains pretty tepid. I think it's only been about 1 billion or so over the last five years. Now, I was hoping you could speak to drivers that would potentially support some acceleration in that DTA consumption, especially given your aversion to solving for it potentially with higher North America earnings inorganically.
Yeah, I feel very good about our organic growth opportunities in North America. And you're right, the very simple driver of accelerating the DTA consumption is driving North American earnings. We're very focused on it. Every single one of our businesses is focused around it. It's also where we've been doing investing to support that growth. So this will come the good old-fashioned way, and I feel confident that we're going to be making some very good progress on this, and we'll talk a bit about that in a couple of weeks' time.
All right. Well, I anticipate a similar response in terms of additional color at Investor Day for the next question, but if you'll indulge me, I did want to ask on – Appreciate it. On the headcount reduction targets, which you guys had spoken about a few years ago, I believe at the time, this was post the consent order, the headcount increased from about 200,000 to 240,000, you had indicated that you would look to drive that closer to 220,000 or so employees. You're two-thirds of the way there, essentially. But admittedly, we're in a very different environment where the potential for AI-driven efficiency gains are much more tangible than they necessarily were a few years ago. I was hoping you could speak to your approach or philosophy to headcount management and resourcing just in light of this new AI regime that we're all operating in.
Well, thank you, Stephen. Let me maybe highlight a couple of points there. First, you saw this quarter take, you know, a severance. We have guided that it would be a little bit higher for the quarter, and it was of about $500 million. But that will enable us to take, you know, earlier actions in the year in order to contribute to our productivity and our efficiency journey as well. And so that's, you know, one piece. I think we've spoken in the past. You can actually see it in the quarter when you look at our headcount, right, on the expense page, coming down quarter on quarter from the $2,200. 26,000 down to 224,000 or thereabouts we have spoken about through the year you would expect us to be you know coming down on headcount and as I said a little bit earlier right not only do we expect to drive you know expense discipline in terms of how we you know we're driving the day-to-day but in addition we are focused on structural efficiencies over time and what that means you know is both benefiting and from the investments we've already made in our transformation, where you saw us modernizing a lot of our platforms, but also what we have ahead of us in terms of continuing to drive with the support of technology, automation in our processes, further automation, as well as leveraging AI to give us further opportunities to turbocharge those investments that we want to make in a self-funded way.
Our next question comes from Erica Najarian with UBS. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Just one follow-up question for me, because I appreciate that we're going to have quite a day in a few weeks. So, Jane, this one is for you. You talked about your stress capital buffer not reflecting your true risk profile. Obviously, we're not going to hear more on that until next year. And you've also talked about that Basel III endgame reform and G-SIB reform is fine, but hasn't gone quite far enough. I'm really wondering about that green bar on slide nine that represents your 110 base point management buffer. Because even if I adjust for seasonality, as I flip through the slides in terms of business line results, again, even after adjusting for seasonality and wealth not hitting the marks quite yet and all other, it implies sort of a much higher return profile you know, even with this 12.7% CET1. So I guess I'm wondering, I'm sure we'll hear about the denominator, sorry, the numerator in Buster Day. But as we think about the denominator and we get more clarity on REG reform, does that make a management buffer redundant?
No. So I'm pretty clear, and I think Gonzalo has been as well, what we're looking at at the moment in terms of CT1 for the rest of the year is looking at being sort of 100, 110 basis points above the regulatory minimum. And that is the 100 basis points of management buffer. I think that's a good number for us at the moment, and I don't have plans to change it in the immediate future.
Got it. Thank you.
Our next question comes from David Chiaverini with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for taking the question. So I wanted to start with capital markets. Can you talk about the pipeline looking out to the second quarter and the rest of the year following a very strong first quarter?
So, thank you. So, what I think about that, let me maybe parse out. I'm sorry, let me ask a clarifying question, David. Are you thinking more of banking, M&A, ECM, DCM, or were you talking more about capital markets in the markets business?
Yeah, the former rather than the latter.
Okay. All right. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm glad I clarified. So, a couple of things I would say. The engagement with clients in the first quarter has been very robust. You can see it. Jane alluded to this. We were advisors in the top three deals, right, on the street. And we're pleased with the progress that we made. And we know we have more to go. And that's why we're making the investments that we're making. When you look at the M&A pipeline, it continues to be quite strong, actually. And so we see good dialogue. Remember, we engage with global multinational corporations, right? Those have the resilience and the strength of balance sheet. And we've seen good levels of engagement and good levels of activity in the pipeline that is in front of us. Of course, if the conflict were protracted and deeper over a longer period of time, that may start introducing some risks of deferrals and things like that into the second half of the year. I think you've seen... The other thing I would say is in the sponsor space, it's a little bit less active and a bit more cautious than on the corporate side. So corporate, very active. And on the sponsor side, a bit more... You know, less so. And I think what you see is selectivity, right? Selectivity in terms of you still see a lot of, you know, good quality deals getting done, right, in terms of IPOs, in terms of debt capital markets as well. But there is a little bit of flight, you know, into quality that plays through in an environment like this. Probably not surprising, right? So more momentum and levels of activity in M&A in the high-grade space for debt and more caution and moderation in the high-yield space as well as in IPO A lot of quality stuff is still happening, and there is a bit of risk off there.
I'd just add in, when we look at it, generally, as Gonzalo was saying, most corporates are watchful. They're certainly not passive. We've been very actively engaged with clients. It's rerouting supply chains, hedging programs, ensuring liquidity. Obviously, the pipeline of activity we have goes well beyond the capital market space. And I think we benefit in North America from some greater resiliency than other parts of the world face, given the macro environment and the conflict in the Middle East.
Great. Thanks for that. And my follow-up is more of housekeeping, but can you provide us with an update on the expected timing of the Banamex IPO? Sure.
Yeah. So, look, obviously, we've made significant progress on the divestiture. First step is actually going to be closing the latest tranche in the coming months, as Gonzalo is talking about, which point we'll have successfully divested 49%. And that substantially advances our ultimate full exit. Given the accelerated pace of the sell-down that we've just done, we don't anticipate any additional stake sales in 2026. ahead of deconsolidation in early 2027. The IPO most likely would happen after that when market conditions are favorable and when the regulatory requirements are met. And as always, we're going to carry on making sure that we exercise the ultimate full exit of Banamex in a way that optimizes value for all stakeholders as we've done so far successfully.
Our next question comes from Gerard Cassidy with RBC. Please go ahead. Hi, Jane.
Hi, Gonzalo.
Hey, Gerard.
Can you guys share with me, just to follow up on your advisory business, and you're talking about pipelines. As we all know, the regulators changed their leverage loan restrictions back in November, giving, I think, banks more opportunities to finance higher leverage deals. Can you share with us your color? Have you been able to use that yet? Will you use it? What opportunities does that provide to help you in the advisory business?
Yeah, I'll pass that to Gonzalo, but just make one observation. The Fed has not changed their guidance on this, and so we're still bound by that regime. But, Gonzalo, over to you.
Yeah, so not related to the regulatory guidance as Jane just alluded to, but I would say in that space we've been both deliberate and very disciplined in our risk management, right? So you have seen us, you know, expand a little bit our momentum there because we were not really that active a couple of years ago. And we've done it with a lot of care, right? We're well-reserved. We're seeing basically, you know, very good, you know, lost trajectory there. It comes out in two parts, you know, let's think this in terms of distribution where it's, you know, functioning well and operating normally as well as on the whole book where we see the minimalist NPL. So really performing well and we're being very thoughtful and disciplined there. Thank you.
Very good. And Jane, have you guys heard any word from the Fed whether they're going to follow suit with the OCC and the FDIC on these changes?
I have not.
Okay. Thank you. And then, just to move to a different area on consumer cards, Gonzalo, you pointed out how, I think it's slide 14, you guys break out the general purpose versus the private label card. And I go back, and I know I'm not probably comparing apples to apples, but I look at the first quarter 24 slide deck. I think it's page 9, where retail services... were 33% of U.S. card loans, and now they're much lower. Again, it's probably not apples to apples, because now it's called private label. But here's my question. With the changes, you guys obviously have done a very good job in divesting businesses that didn't hold up their profitability to the levels you wanted them to attain. With the advent of buy now, pay later, Is the retail private label credit card business a business that is going to have challenges in reaching profitability levels that they need to reach because of this competition?
Thank you, Gerard. Very good question. I didn't know you were a historian there. I was trying to get back in my memory. And unfortunately, it's in front of my boss. I was running the business at the time, so I can't say that I didn't know. So I appreciate your question there. But, no, what I would say is a couple of things. Now, what we're seeing in the private label space, and maybe there could be a contribution for what you're bringing up, but I attach it more because I've seen it even before BNPL started to play any role in terms of the lending elements. I attribute it more to changing customer behavior as it relates to borrowing preferences, right? And that's a change we have seen over a number of years. And that's why I think I alluded to earlier in the conference, and I think you're going to hear a lot more from Pam at Investor Day. You can see it in the numbers already, right? Our investments are really in the general purpose credit card space because that's where our clients are taking us, right? And so over time, a lot of the retailers themselves are also pivoting into co-brand relationships, and some of the more successful ones like Costco that we have and many others, they have made some of those pivots because they're basically following the customer behavior there. So... That's what I would say, you know, as it relates to that. And, yes, you have seen us be very disciplined in terms of returns, right? So, obviously, those scaled relationships do work very well as it relates to returns. But if you have, you know, pockets where some of the relations that have low scale, you know, Jane had been the first one to impress upon me when I was running the business that we're not in the business of hobbies. And so we have, you know, been very disciplined about exiting smaller portfolios where we didn't see a path to improve returns. And that discipline we're going to keep. Thank you.
Our next question comes from Vivek Duneja with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks. Just a couple of clarifications for you both. Could you dimensionalize a couple of things? One is, what do you mean by when you say moderate capital benefit? Gonzalo, are you talking about 3%, 5%, you know, any range in terms of under the current proposal for capital benefit?
Birgit, first of all, thank you, and good to hear you. The modeler in me really appreciates the question, but I would say we're not giving, you know, specifics at this time. Thank you, though.
We'll be able to do that when we get the final proposal.
Okay. DTA, Jane, since you talked about it, any sense of, you know, the pace has been very slow, as the question came up earlier. What's the pace do you expect it gets to in the next couple of years?
I'll give the CEO answer, which is better, and then pass it over to Gonzalo.
So, Rebecca, maybe let me give you a bit. Here I will be able to give you some precision just to make up for my for my last one there where, you know, I didn't want to go into specifics. So, you know, first quarter, the disallowed ETA increased by about $200 million quarter over quarter. Now, that is attributable, and we have this, I think, every year. That's attributable to higher U.S. income that was offset by seasonality of the carryback support. So that usually happens. Now, as you see us go through the year, and we've been clear on, you know, trying to increase U.S. earnings over time, We would expect that the disallowed DTA would reduce this year in excess of $800 million. That's roughly what we expect. We're very focused, and again, you're going to hear more on Investor Day, on what's the multi-year path for that so that we can continue to accelerate that trajectory and really burn down that disallowed DTA. Thank you.
Okay. We'll look forward to hearing more at the Investor Day on this. Thanks, Gonzalo.
The final question comes from Chris McGrady with KBW.
Please go ahead. Great. Thanks for squeezing me in. Just going back to the tech AI conversation for a moment, I'm interested in how today's outlays could ultimately yield ROE benefits and how you're thinking about that when you are putting together this investor day over the next few weeks. How does that influence the medium-term ROE outlook? Thanks.
You're going to hear a lot more about AI at Investor Day and how we are approaching it. I think with the rapid advances of the models of Gentic AI, we have established a more strategic, structured, firm-wide approach, and that's looking at four different buckets. which will ultimately yield ROE benefits. One is around business strategies. That's covering revenue generation, client experience improvements, and also potential changes to our business model. So many with a direct driver to either revenue growth or to ROTC growth. Second one, which you've heard me talk more often about, is productivity and end-to-end process improvement. And that body of work that's underway is further simplifying our most complex and manually intensive processes, leveraging both AI and automation. So that's a direct operating efficiency benefit with investments needed to get there, which we're making. Final area would be the defensive capabilities covering cyber fraud, AML, general risk management. So I see that as issue avoidance. And we're also looking at the longer-term talent and workforce implications. So our approach is structured and deliberate. It's not just about tech. It's about people and our processes and our business model. And that's just trying to give you a bit of the framework for what we'll run through in three weeks. and how that then translates into growth, how it helps translate into ROTCE benefits, wallet capture, et cetera.
That's helpful. Thank you for that. I guess my follow-up would be global rates are moving in various directions at any moment. Interested in just the broader rate sensitivity, domestic, international, and how we should think about the whole city entity. Thank you.
Right. Thanks very much. Yeah, and I know we provide disclosures on IRE, which even though it's a static measure, the one that we disclosed gives you a little bit of a sense, at least from a risk management perspective. But let me backtrack for a second, right? Because your question is also linked to NII X markets and what one could expect. So I'll just repeat a little bit what I said earlier on NII X markets, which is the vast majority of the growth that we have baked in for the year that is anchored to our guidance. is really driven by the client engagement, the client momentum that we have across the business, and that's reflected into our deposit and loan volume growth. That really drives the bus as it relates to that. Now, when you were talking about interest rate sensitivity, you have two pieces for us. One is U.S. dollar sensitivity. You have seen us over time, number one, very actively manage our balance sheet and being delivered there and bringing down our asset sensitivity over time. to be more or less in a relatively neutral position today as it relates to U.S. rates. We like that position given, you know, what's going on out there and not only the direction that we all thought rates were going to have, but even in the current situation, I think we like that position. And then on the non-USD rates, right, we're structurally more asset sensitive. That has to do with our strategy. It's well diversified sensitivity, right, because it's across 65-plus currencies, and it's very, very much anchored by our services and wealth franchises that we have
around the world thank you there are no further questions i'll turn the call over to jen landis for closing remarks thank you all for joining the call um we look forward to uh talking to you this afternoon with any follow-up questions thank you this concludes the city first quarter 2026 earnings call you may now disconnect