11/6/2025

speaker
Jordan
Head of Investor Relations

today's call, in today's earnings release, and in our SEC filings, including our annual report on Form 10-K and our forthcoming third quarter 2025 quarterly report on Form 10-Q. Table 1 is under no obligation and expressly disclaims any obligation except as required by law to update or alter its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. Additionally, today's remarks will include a discussion of certain financial measures that are not presented in conformity with U.S. generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP. When we refer to free cash flow during today's call, we mean adjusted EBITDA less capital expenditures as defined in our earnings release. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call to the most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release or on our website at ir.cable1.net. Joining me on today's call is our president and CEO, Julie Lawless, and Todd Cucci, our CFO. With that, let me turn the call over to Julie.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

Thank you, Jordan, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for today's call. Our subscriber results in the third quarter were weaker than expected, reflecting higher churn from the combined impact of macroeconomic factors, competitive pressures, promotional roll-offs, and billing migration activities. While overall customer losses were disappointing, we saw modest improvements in third quarter connects as compared to the prior year period, a trend that carried into October. ARPU performance, along with discipline execution, allowed us to deliver financial results largely consistent with the second quarter. We anticipate ARPU to remain stable for the remainder of the year. We believe our focus on simplified pricing, segmented marketing campaigns, and value-enhancing product and service offerings is laying the groundwork for improved financial performance over time. However, we continue to navigate a challenging macro environment, which is why our focus remains on execution, retaining existing customers, retooling our go-to-market approaches, and working to position Cable 1 for durable, long-term growth. I'll first review residential broadband customer trends. Residential data customers declined by 21,600 in the third quarter, driven by the factors I noted. As I mentioned, momentum and connects have continued with year-over-year growth for the quarter and sequential gains each quarter of this year, and that momentum has carried into October. Positive signs that our initiatives are resonating. even in a complex and competitive landscape. One major initiative enabled by our billing platform transformation is the launch of a new go-to-market pricing structure across our MSO footprint. By significantly simplifying our pricing, Sparklight representatives can now more easily match products and price points to individual needs and are doing so faster, thereby improving overall customer experience. At the same time, during the third quarter, we experienced increased churn. Given the economic and competitive pressures in the market, we believe some customers were particularly sensitive to promotional roll-offs and to touch points tied to our billing platform transformation. Similar to our systematic efforts to drive new connects, we are taking an equally aggressive approach to addressing churn. We saw churn improve in October in line with October 2024 results following this period of significant customer impacting activity. As we continue aligning our products with customer needs, we are advancing our customer segmentation strategy. Our lift product, positioned as value by need, resonates with cost-conscious customers, providing a sustainable path to reach incremental households and expand penetration. We are also seeing strong sell-in among our premium tiers, with about half of new customers choosing gig or faster speeds, including our expanding multi-gig offerings, up from roughly 40% sell-in last year. Average monthly usage is now around 775 gigabits per customer, underscoring sustained demand for high-capacity service while peak utilization remains below 20%. Through these and other initiatives, we are extending our reach across a diverse range of customer segments. Turning to ARPU, the increase this quarter was primarily driven by realizing a full quarter of the segmented pricing changes implemented during Q2, as well as a higher than usual level of promotional expiration. Looking ahead, we expect some of our retention initiatives will put downward pressure on ARPU, partially offset by the continued adoption of value-enhancing products and services resulting in stable ARPU through the balance of the year. As part of our segmentation strategy, we have been expanding our value proposition beyond the core broadband service. A key example is TechAssist, our $10 per month support service that offers customers expert support for a wide range of Wi-Fi-connected products, from PCs and smart TVs to tablets, security cameras, thermostats, and more. Tech Assist helps customers keep their technology running smoothly and strengthens our role as the trusted neighbor in their homes. While we initially viewed Tech Assist as a modest contributor in the near term, adoption has exceeded our expectations to date and we are optimistic about the long-term opportunity it represents. We are building on the success of this initial launch with our recent introduction of two new tech assist products, one covering home entertainment and connected portable devices, and another that adds device protection to the tech support assistance included in the original offering. Turning to our mobile initiative. I'm especially proud of the speed at which our team has worked to bring this product to market. We announced our plans to pilot this product on our August earnings call, began associate testing in October, and plan to launch unlimited plans starting at $25 per line in select markets later this month. We believe mobile will help reduce churn, deepen the adoption of our services, and increase customer lifetime value. As we launch, we'll continue to learn through targeted pilots and refine how mobile fits within our broader strategy, with plans to share additional details on our go-to-market strategy once the pilot phase is complete. Before closing, I want to briefly address our leadership transition. As we've previously shared, I will be retiring from Cable 1, but will remain as a Senior Advisor through 2026 to support a seamless transition. The Board has retained a leading executive search firm and has made significant progress in the comprehensive search process for the next CEO of Cable 1. The goal is to achieve a smooth transition and facilitate the continued execution of our long-term growth strategy. We remain focused on executing our strategy, and I am confident that our talented leadership team and dedicated associates will continue to move the company forward. To close, we're encouraged by the continued progress, stronger Connect trends through the quarter, and in October, year-over-year Connect growth paired with another month of sequential churn improvement. We remain focused on executing initiatives that both strengthen Connect and reduce churn, and we are looking forward to the results of our upcoming mobile pilot, which we believe could further enhance the customer experience and support growth over time. And now, Todd, who will provide a recap of our third quarter financial performance.

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Julie. Starting with the top line, total revenues for the third quarter of 2025 were $376 million compared to $393.6 million in the third quarter of 2024. Residential video continued to account for the majority of the year-over-year decline down $8.7 million, or 16.2%, due to video subscriber churn. Residential data revenues decreased $2.8 million, or 1.2% year-over-year, driven by a 5.1% decline in subscribers, partially offset by a 3.2% increase in ARPU. On a sequential quarterly basis, residential data revenues declined by 0.8%. Third quarter business data revenues grew 0.4% year over year. This growth was driven primarily by our fiber and carrier segments, offset by some continued subscriber and pricing softness in the SMB segment. The fiber and carrier segments benefited from strong sales momentum, higher connection volumes, and our ability to capitalize on new market opportunities. Compared to the second quarter, business data revenues increased 0.2% sequentially. Operating expenses for the third quarter of 2025 were $96 million, or 25.5% of revenues, compared to $104.6 million, or 26.6% of revenues, in the third quarter of last year, with the decrease driven largely by a reduction in programming costs. Selling, general, and administrative expenses were $100.8 million for the third quarter of 2025, compared to $88.4 million in the prior year quarter. SG&A as a percentage of revenues was 26.8% for Q3 of 2025, compared to 22.5% for Q3 of 2024, with the increase driven largely by non-cast stock-based compensation, other labor costs, and investments in growth enablement platforms. As discussed last quarter, the implementation of these platforms is expected to generate meaningful OpEx and SG&A savings over time as we realize greater automation and operating efficiency. Adjusted EBITDA for Q3 of 2025 was $201.9 million, representing 53.7% of revenues, compared to $213.6 million, or 54.3% of revenues in Q3 of last year, and $203.2 million, or 53.3% of revenues in the second quarter of 2025. Capital expenditures totaled $71.8 million in the third quarter, a decrease of $5.2 million, or 6.8% year-over-year. During the quarter, we invested $4 million of CapEx in new market expansion projects and $2.7 million in integration activities. We now expect full-year CapEx to come in at the high $200 million range versus our previously articulated $300 million area estimate. Adjusted EBITDA less capital expenditures, or free cash flow, was $130.1 million in the third quarter of 2025, equating to a conversion ratio of 64.4% of adjusted EBITDA. In the third quarter of 2024, free cash flow was $136.6 million and 64% of adjusted EBITDA. Our business generates a significant level of cash flow, and we continue to assess the optimal use of those funds in order to maximize long-term shareholder value with our current primary focus on disciplined debt repayment. Supplemental to our operating cash flows, During the third quarter, we monetized our equity investments in Ziply and Metronet. These divestitures generated $124 million of combined pre-tax proceeds and resulted in the recognition of $67 million of gains on the initial invested amounts. Utilizing our operating cash flows and investment proceeds, we paid down nearly $200 million of debt during the third quarter. On top of the approximately $5 million of scheduled term loan amortization payments, we voluntarily paid down $173 million of revolver borrowings and opportunistically retired over $20 million of our senior notes at a favorable discount. Through September 30th, we now retired over $313 million of our outstanding debt in 2025. Additionally, after the quarter closed, We repaid an additional $25 million of outstanding borrowings under our committed $1.25 billion revolve. As of September 30th, we had approximately $167 million of cash and equivalents on hand, and our total debt balance was approximately $3.3 billion, consisting of approximately $1.7 billion in term loans, $920 million in convertible notes, $613 million in unsecured notes, 55 million of revolver borrowings, and 3 million of finance lease liabilities. We ended the quarter with approximately $1.2 billion of the $1.25 billion committed liquidity available under our revolving credit facility. Our net leverage ratio on a last quarter annualized basis was 3.9 times. Over $2.7 billion of our $3.3 billion of debt contain fixed or swap fixed-based interest rates that are substantially below current market rates. Although we expect to be able to retire our convertible notes, which are in March 2026, without needing additional external financing, we continue to monitor the capital markets for attractive opportunities. Assuming the MBI put option is exercised and using an October 1, 2026 closing date, we now estimate that the MBI purchase price would be approximately $475 to $495 million. We continue to estimate that the amount of MBI's total net indebtedness at closing will be between $845 and $895 million. And one final note, subsequent to quarter end, We entered into an agreement to sell certain fiber-to-the-tower contract rights to a third party for approximately $42 million. Concurrently, our ClearWave Fiber joint venture agreed to sell a meaningful share of their assets to the same third party. These transactions are expected to close by the end of first quarter of 2026. With that, we're ready to take your questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

At this time, if you would like to ask a question, press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, simply press star 1 again. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Craig Moffitt with Moffitt Nathanson. Please go ahead.

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Craig Moffitt
Analyst at Moffitt Nathanson

Hi, thank you. Todd, thank you for the update on the balance sheet and the debt you've paid off. Can you just update a little bit more about where you would like to target your leverage and how low you think you might take it? And then a more kind of general strategic question, which is just what might a more dramatic approach to trying to address the debt particularly the broadband ARPUP issue in my mind, but the broadband net add problem in general. I'm sure you talk internally about sort of what are some potentially more dramatic approaches to try to right the ship, if you will. What might those look like?

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

Hey, Craig, thanks for the question. I'll kick that one off on the balance sheet inquiry. Specific to leverage, as we articulated in our prepared remarks, we've already paid off over $300 million in debt this year, and that will continue to be one of our primary capital allocation priorities. The business generates a meaningful amount of free cash flow, leveraged free cash flow, We benefited from some of the congressional tax payments or tax legislation recently passed, as you've seen this quarter, where that was a really minuscule amount of cash taxes. So we'll get the benefit of that going forward, as we've discussed in the past. We do have to continue to focus on deleveraging. We've operated this business in the past between kind of two and a half times and four and a half times. But that being said, you know, you have to be conscious of what the cost of capital environment looks like. When we were willing to take it up to higher levels, it was for strategic transactions. It was in a much lower cost of capital environment. It was in a much less competitive environment, to be honest with you. And so we think about all those things when we think about targeting or philosophical approach to balance sheet management, which I would say is much more in the high two, low three times you know, overall leverage ratio that we're going to continue to focus on driving towards with disciplined debt repayment.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

And I'll hop in on the second one that you feel free to join as well. I mean, I don't think we'll specifically outline details of what we would be doing to grow our customer base given the competitive environment and understanding who listens to calls but what i can say is that work has been done and progress is absolutely being made now that we can move past some of these very large platform installations and migrations those are behind us and i think that it might actually be instructive to understand what happened in the third quarter and what what things have looked like since the third quarter. There's no doubt that the third quarter customer loss was disappointing. But thankfully, October seems to be different in some significant ways. But first, let's go to the third quarter. In the third quarter, Connect showed modest improvement over the last third quarter. And actually August, September and October all outperform last year's connects. So that's, that's half of the, the net ad equation. Right. And, um, that is why we made the comment that we feel like our initiatives seem to be resonating to bring more customers in the door. However, in the third quarter disconnects were elevated and we had a confluence of activities in a compressed timeframe. from the overall macroeconomic environment, competitive pressures continuing, of course, higher than ordinary promotional roll-offs, so they're going to higher rates, and a billing migration that touched three quarters, three quarters of all of our customers. Our churn did spike with all of that happening at the same time. And regarding the billing migration, I mean, we are, super pleased with the increased capabilities and the efficiencies of this platform. And we can even talk about how we've used it already. It's agility much better than our previous one. We have been able to isolate that this was also a factor in our increased churn. So in a world where there are multiple choices for broadband, a touch in the form of a new name on the bill that they've never seen before, a new bill date, a bill date gets moved, normalized rates as acquisitions come into Sparklight. All of those things with the billing migration give customers an opportunity to review who their provider is. Now, the good news is we believe that any heightened churn associated with the billing migration is now behind us because churn has continued to improve in October. We saw connects at higher levels than last year, same period, October, and connects grew sequentially month over month in October as well. So that was the third quarter. Going into October, again, October connects continue to be higher month over month and year over year, and disconnects in October fell back to pre-third quarter levels. So that's not enough. I mean, that's fairly good news, we think. But that's not enough. We're continuing to drive initiatives to bring Connect levels higher, lots of work in the segmentation area, multi-gig launches, two and six gig, web sales, a lot of work being done on our online platform now that we have a centralized billing platform that's the same for all the companies. And we're also working on loyalty and retention, that side of the business as well. A lot of work going on with high LTV love, if you will, segmentation and targeted save offers, as well as uses of AI in our turn models. So hopefully that gives a little more flavor, a little bit of story behind the numbers of the third quarter and what we see going into the fourth quarter.

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Craig Moffitt
Analyst at Moffitt Nathanson

That's very helpful and encouraging to hear, Julie. Thank you.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

You're welcome.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Greg Williams with TD Cohen. Please go ahead.

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Greg Williams
Analyst at TD Cohen

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Just maybe Julie dovetailing off the last topic. Um, any way to quantify between the competition and the promo roll-offs and the billing migration friction, you know, is there one more to blame than the other, or is it just sort of a equal perfect storm of events here? You know, cause some of them are one time in nature, it'll go away, but things like competition will remain if not get worse. Second question is just on the broadband strength. You gave great color on the fourth quarter with puts and takes. As we think ahead in 2026, obviously not asking for guidance today, but just generally in 2026, if you can help us with sort of puts and takes, are price hikes on the table? Are there more promo roll-offs? And maybe as an offset, are you attacking more value segments? Any color would help. Thanks.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

Okay, I'll try to tackle that one. There's a lot there, Greg. It was, when I said a confluence of a lot of activities in a compressed time, all of those things affected third quarter term, which was unusual for us, right? We have had historic lows, and this was definitely a spike. Part of it, you know, the billing migration touching, you know, 750,000 people with different things on their bills was part of it. But when you go through a billing migration, for those of you who've done it, you have to put a freeze on your current customers as you move everything over. And what that means is that there's a section of customers that don't get their bill and they don't go through their normal cycle for a period of time. Those get delayed for about two weeks and some a little bit longer, three weeks. What that means is customers have larger bills by the time they actually have to pay, which does cause a spike in non-pay. So it really was a confluence of a lot of things. And we have torn apart the pieces and parts and no one piece bigger than the other. On the competition side, do we get disconnects because of competition? Of course we do. But by and large, our problem related to competition has been primarily related to cell phone internet and not getting connects. And that is an area that we've made a lot of inroads on. All of the things that I mentioned were part of the reason for our increased churn, which we've now seen come back down to pre-migration levels. In terms of 2026, you know, CABA has not had a cadence of annual rate adjustments for high-speed data customers. We do do that for video customers due to programmer increases. So we do not have a planned rate adjustment for our HSD service for HSD customers at this time. But we do continue to explore other avenues to increase revenue. For example, we are currently exploring our auto pay plus program and seeing how it aligns with others in the broadband telecom space as an example. I hope that answers your question.

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Greg Williams
Analyst at TD Cohen

It does. Thank you.

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, and Greg, just one thing to jump in on that I think would be helpful for the audience and for you, hopefully, is as Julie was talking about that non-pay cycle, we have and we're obviously talking quite a bit about October because when you go through a migration like that, you know there's quite a bit of noise and it was the confluence of events but the non-pays in October as we've seen from an attrition rate are approximately half of what we saw in those spikes in August and September and so that is something that I would say is also maybe like you said an anomaly that's behind us and not something that would be recurring the competitive intensity it is recurring we have to be you know on our toes the price and the packaging the continuous state of rivalry, how we think about every single day going to market is what we've done to build the team that we have now, why we made the critical investments in those platforms, and now really starting to see the agility of executing on those playbooks as we've talked before.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sebastiano Petty with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

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Sebastiano Petty
Analyst at JP Morgan

Thomas Miller- I thank you for taking the question and I guess just kind of following up on the theme of questions thus far this evening, but related related to broadband competition. Thomas Miller- I think you're a larger cable peers have kind of call that low end kind of pressure and I don't know if that is just you know fwa as 18 team, maybe Internet error scale, but. Can you maybe perhaps comment from a competitive standpoint, you know, as you kind of think about your subscriber base, you know, the churn that you saw on a non-pay basis, but maybe voluntary churn, is there any low-end pressure there to speak of? And then I think So I think you did talk about the lift product in your prepared remarks, but where are we with the FlexConnect rollout? Is that still in the early stages as you guys think about improvements in Connect volumes in the fourth quarter and beyond as you look to stabilize things? And then lastly, I guess, Todd, I mean, following up on the leverage kind of question or balance sheet, are you still confident in remaining below four times net leverage as you kind of bring NBI in over the next 12 months? Thanks.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

All right, I'll go ahead and start. Low-end pressure, I would say yes, as it relates to cell phone, internet, increased marketing there affecting Connects. However, again, August, September, October, all higher Connect months. We seem to have found some go-to-market strategies that are resonating with our customers. And listen, the onus is on us. to provide services at levels and price points that customers want. And Lyft and Flex go directly to that. Lyft accounted for a modest but growing share of our gross ads this quarter. And the product is allowing us to reach that value by need customer segment. And we have been tracking them and the retention of these customers tracks meaningfully better than our overall base. It, of course, requires customers to demonstrate financial need in order to qualify for that service, which naturally limits broad cannibalization and helps preserve the integrity of our core broadband tiers. We expect Lyft to be net accretive, supporting incremental growth and strong retention amongst these, you know, price-sensitive segments, this low end that you refer to. Flex is a product that can help the value by choice versus value by need customer. Someone who can't qualify for Lyft, but wants something in that same price range, which you could imagine would be the same sort of people who might be interested in cell phone internet, but with much more reliability and unlimited data, higher speeds, et cetera, et cetera, in many cases. Flex relaunched late in Q3 and only one channel in our sales center. And it's expanding to multiple channels, all channels, in the fourth quarter. So we will be able to report out on it on our next call. The good news is our connects are trending nicely, even without the benefit of Flex in Q3. So there's the silver lining.

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

And Sebastiano, on the leverage and the balance sheet question, you know, we're going to continue to tackle that numerator, as I already talked about, in terms of the debt repayments, whether that be through our organic cash flow or monetization of strategic investments, as we were able to benefit from this quarter with Ziply and Metronet. Of course, we're in focus on driving the improvement in the denominator over time as well in that ratio. But inevitably, when you do have a customer attrition rate like we have this quarter, it has financial implications. And as we look at that, we can address, you know, an offset to that with additional cost savings initiatives, which we're leaning into and we've talked about in the past and will continue to be very focused on, especially as we get through these platform migrations where you gain a lot of those efficiencies from the new platforms. But I would anticipate that we're still in and around that four times area in conjunction with the MBI transaction in late 24, excuse me, late 26.

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Sebastiano Petty
Analyst at JP Morgan

Got it. And then anyone who maybe quantified the proceeds from the tower, if I were to the tower sales from yourselves and clearly?

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

So $42 million is the agreement. No proceeds yet. We just entered in the agreement. on a direct basis, and that is effectively some contracts that we still owned that were in the ClearWave Fiber market. The agreement that ClearWave Fiber, our joint venture, entered into with the same third party is for all of the network assets in that specific region, and that is an undisclosed amount. But effectively, our direct proceeds will ultimately be in that $42 million area.

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Sam McHugh
Analyst at BMP Paraba

Thank you both.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Steven Cahal with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

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Steven Cahal
Analyst at Wells Fargo

Thanks. Maybe first just wanted to ask about move activity in this context of a lot of competition for subscribers. I think historically when move activity picked up, it was a tailwind. I know it's been muted the last few years, but if we do see lower rates and more activity, given all the products that are out there, do you see that as the headwind or tailwind to your Connect activity? And then relatedly, as we kind of get to churn from here, do you think it's similar to where it was in the first half of the year, or is it still a little bit of a headwind? And then last one, Todd, just wondering if SG&A slows in Q4 if it remains at levels where it was in Q3? Thank you.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

So move activity is still low. And so this is a game of jump balls. So it's, again, incumbent upon us to win any opportunity to have folks look at Sparklight. It's interesting. go-to-market strategies is to have a very particular claim for each marketplace that is verified by a third party. So it's not just us talking about ourselves. So it might be a claim on speed, for example, from Ookla or maybe open source. But one of the claims that several of our markets use is, you know, customers who come to Sparklight stay with Sparklight. And that is based on Kagan, the media research group of S&P Global Market Intelligence, who declared Sparklight number one in customer loyalty among major U.S. broadband providers in their Q1 2025 media census survey. And that was due to our lower churn. So whenever there is a chance for a connect in town, it's incumbent upon us to get that win. I mean, I think, again, with connects trending up, we're finding some things that work. I think your second question was about churn in the fourth quarter. Am I right?

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Craig Moffitt
Analyst at Moffitt Nathanson

That's right. Yeah.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

Okay. Yeah. As Todd said, October was half of what August and September were in terms of non-pay, right? And overall churn is back to pre-migration levels. So we would consider us back to normal.

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I would say, Steven, that, you know, we definitely feel like there's still an opportunity for us to improve, you know, on that, to your question around like, you know, pre, you know, even some of the migration levels. And we recall, we started this migration in, you know, Q4 of 24, and it was a phased approach. So it's been a, it's been a, you know, an important and critical, you know, process that the team did well on in navigating, but it's also been putting us in a little bit of a hamstrung situation relative to not only the Connect side of the equation, but a lot of the new retention initiatives that we have. So we're going to really focus on that execution of retaining customers, driving into that loyalty factor that Julie just alluded to, retooling a lot of the go-to-market strategies to even capture more of those moves. I don't think we are maybe even the industry did great on those in the past, but we all know that there are additional alternatives and there's different tactics to drive that awareness from a branding perspective and from a connect perspective. And then just really reignite, you know, the growth mindset in terms of how we bring that, you know, element of, you know, winning strategies to bear, you know, each and every day with our associates and in our communities. You asked about SG&A, I think, as well. It is heightened to this quarter. I talked about it in the prepared remarks, a little bit of the non-cash stock comp that I talked about last quarter. That will still be in Q4 of 2025 here. But when you're going through these migrations, you have incremental labor expense, both internal labor as well as contract labor. And then, of course, we talked about last quarter, we will start to see the benefits, some of these cost savings coming into the financials in both OPEX and SG&A at the tail end of this year, but really more on the run rate basis for 2026. So I would anticipate that you see, you know, that come back in line.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

It's related to retention as well. I mean, we talked about some of the things that, like we were somewhat pleased at how things are proceeding since the billing migration. But that we will be leaning into even more to drive even more connects and really working on the retention side as well, even as churn comes down to working on retention overall, but also a lot of tests going on. Um, you know, we talked about, uh, promo roll-offs and, you know, when someone goes from a promotional rate to a full price or higher rate, that certainly can elevate churn in the short run. But we have done deep analyses on these cohorts and how they roll off in their first month and subsequent months. And it proves that the overall retention of these customers as we track them versus the control, the business as usual customers is a good ROI. Obviously that's because of increasing ARPU. Well, we are working on tests for retention for our promo roll-offs because those that promo activity will continue at those elevated levels through the end of the year. And so we're doing tests against those segments to see what we can do to help keep more longer. So working retention on all sides of the business.

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Steven Cahal
Analyst at Wells Fargo

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brandon Nispel with KeyBank Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Brandon Nispel
Analyst at KeyBank Capital Markets

Great. Thanks for taking the questions. Two quick, I think, on the competitive environment. One, could you just update us on where you think you are from a fiber overlap standpoint within your footprint? And then two, you talked about fixed wireless sort of being the main competitive factor. AT&T's talked about rolling out AT&T Air more broadly, really starting this month. How are you thinking about the competitive impact of that product starting to roll out more broadly going forward? Thank you.

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

Hey, Brandon. It's Todd. The fiber overlap that we talked about last quarter being in kind of that low to mid-50s is pretty consistent this quarter, as you do recall and we've talked about before. One of the most ambitious, you know, kind of movements in that was AT&T's upgrade from DSL to fiber. And we did see that slow a little bit, undoubtedly because of where they're putting more emphasis in some of the markets that are smaller, more rural, where we do have a considerable amount of overlap with them on the AT&T air product. So kind of answering both of your questions is one is fiber overlap pretty consistent. You'll see it in select areas, but from a, you know, the primary drivers of it being LEC upgrades, that hasn't accelerated in any way. And then the FWA, we've got meaningful overlap in our markets from what we see from Ground Truth as well as third-party research with TEMO. We have basically nearly all of our markets that have it from one of the three providers, and AT&T was I would call it the laggard in launching that, but has here in the last really three to four quarters been the most aggressive of rolling it out in areas where they are still copper only. And we would anticipate that that will continue.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

Yeah. And I mean, I think that's where Flex finally getting out has a good chance. So it'll be interesting to see how it performs. And don't forget, we're launching mobile in November. So which is amazing, given that we just signed the deal in August. But at any rate, we're going to be able to market to our customers just like they market to theirs. So it's going to be a more level playing field.

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Brandon Nispel
Analyst at KeyBank Capital Markets

Got it. Thanks for taking questions. Thanks, Brandon.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sam McHugh with BMP Paraba. Please go ahead.

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Sam McHugh
Analyst at BMP Paraba

Good afternoon, guys. Two questions, I guess. One is a follow-up on gross ad and churn. You know, you're talking about gross ads being up. I think I heard you say churn was down year over year in October. So maybe you could clarify. So I guess, you know, with that in mind, could we see broadband losses actually stabilize in the fourth quarter? Like how confident are we in that momentum continuing? And the second one on the sale proceeds, kind of multi-part, sorry, Todd. The 123 million you booked, that's a pre-tax number. That was the question one. And then on the fiber proceeds, same question, is that pre-tax? And is that only your direct sales? Like, could there be some pass-through from ClearWave as well? And I guess lastly, like, how much do you think you have left to divest now? Are we looking at similar amounts still left?

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

Thanks. I'll start with the churn question. October, yes, down year over year. That is correct. You mentioned something about gross connects, Sam, but I'm sorry, I did not catch it.

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Sam McHugh
Analyst at BMP Paraba

Just saying that you're talking about they were up in October again and through, I think, August, September, too. So if we flow that through for the rest of the quarter, if gross ads are up and churn is down, then that would suggest a pretty decent improvement in Q4.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

You said it, not me.

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Maybe one anecdotal thing, Sam, just to add is the month of October, it's a month, right? both from a connects improvement year over year and a disconnects improvement year over year. That's the first month that's happened in 17 months. So it's definitely a good indicator in our mind, but definitely something that we have to continue to execute upon. And I think then moving into the other question on the sale proceeds, yes, those are pre-tax. But as I'd previously articulated, we've got some pretty good tax um or you know kind of tax uh insulation there relative to some of the other previous losses that we had take on strategic investments um and so a very meaningful amount of that flows through in terms of what we paid off in debt for this quarter and then with the announced agreement with the fiber to the tower contracts again that's not a sale of fiber that's just a contract The actual infrastructure was owned by Clearway Fiber. That will also have a pretty high tax-efficient flow through as it relates to proceeds to be allocated under our capital allocation philosophy right now. What's left is very speculative. I would say that we've talked about what the past has been and a disciplined focus on monetizing these strategic investments. And using those proceeds to pay down debt, starting even in 2023, we do expect to continue to see interest and likely ongoing consolidation just from a broader sector perspective. But beyond that, from a policy perspective, we don't speculate on M&A.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Frank Luthan with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

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Frank Luthan
Analyst at Raymond James

Hey, guys. Good evening. This is Rob one for Frank. Hey, guys. So you kind of touched on this a bit earlier, but what are some of the products you're having particular success with? Are there any offerings you're seeing an especially strong take rate for? And then, you know, switching gears slightly, how would you assess the trajectory of your video declines right now relative to your internal expectations? And, you know, what can we sort of expect for the pace of those declines going forward?

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

When I think about what we see resonating, I think it is Not one thing, it is a lot of things put together to tell you the truth. We talked about our go-to-market strategy that Tony and team have been working on and using third party and AI data to deeply segment customers and bring to them the things that they most want and need. seems to be those sorts of messages in an environment where we are seen as trusted neighbors to our customers in terms of how we deliver service, again, seems to be resonating. What else can I tell you about what's working? Well, you know, wallet share, our prices for HSD, you know, our ARPU is driven by people, you know, our high LTV base, and then, you know, we sell in, multi gig, whether that's two, even up to six gigs symmetrical in some cases. But also we've had just tremendous success with products that customers get to choose for themselves. In other words, they see a need and they pick and choose whether they want it or not. So secure plus part of, you know, securing their wifi environment in their home, very important to a lot of customers. Our tech assist program, service really is doing so well. That's $10 a month that we're launching a $15 a month and a $25 a month service that is similar to those that cover certain different devices and services, but very much similar to that original tech assist. So we've been successful in wallet share. And it's not just wallet share for us, it's helping customers with a need that they have. They get very frustrated with having a doorbell connect to Wi-Fi or thermostats, for example. And then the newer products will be handling things like home electronics, like TVs and laptops and headphones and gaming systems, things like that. So things that actually help make their life easier. That gives a bit of flavor.

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Todd Cucci
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Rob, I'll just jump in there as well. You heard Julie talk about Euro, but you know our adoptions continue to see really good increase increasing momentum there. We actually had our strongest quarterly sell in to date with that product and we also look at that as you know what our multi device options for that really all of it about solving problems in home. Given we have such a high reliability standard to the home, we were also now in an opportunity in a position to benefit from the opportunity of really having a much better insight inside the home with that partnership. And then the multi-gig selling that Julie was alluding to, that was also meaningfully higher than any other category as it relates to growth for this quarter. So you see those driving good TAB, Mark McIntyre, support for the stability of our poo and I say stability as i've said numerous times, even though you saw it move up a little bit this quarter, but I would anchor. TAB, Mark McIntyre, Investors in our analysts to some of the previous comments that we've made in Q2 around you know stability being you know plus or minus $1 because it's going to move from time to time and quarter to quarter. You know, um, but about a dollar plus or minus off of that, you know, 81 ish dollar Q2 reported RPU. And then on the video side, um, sorry, you asked that, um, yeah, you know, we're continuing our, um, strategy around converting the video customers to IP. Those that want to remain a video customer of ours. Obviously, the number of video customers that we have left is quite small and getting smaller and has been, you know, a philosophical approach from over 10 years ago that that wasn't really going to be, you know, what was driving the power of the bundle as much as that was the data product. And so, you know, to even mention to it, that's a product we're going to focus on keeping profitable through passing on price increases. That isn't the greatest experience for customers, so that attrition rate has continued to, you know, be pretty consistent. Wouldn't expect that to be much different. And we're going to be very focused on getting that IP conversion complete, which then allows us to reallocate that QAM spectrum to the data upload, to the data upload capacity and capabilities.

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Operator
Conference Operator

We have reached our allotted time for the question and answer portion of today's call. I will now turn the call back over to Julie Lawless for closing remarks. Thank you, Tiffany.

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Julie Lawless
President and CEO

Before wrapping up, I want to thank our associates for navigating a tremendous amount of change and driving meaningful progress over the past year. As our major platform initiatives become fully embedded into our daily operations, we're leveraging these tools to serve our customers with greater efficiency and effectiveness than ever. Thanks again for your time and interest in Cable 1.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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