Coeur Mining, Inc.

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

7/29/2021

spk06: Good morning and welcome to the Coor Mining second quarter 2021 financial results conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note, This event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Paul Departu, Director, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you, and good morning. Welcome to Core Mining's second quarter earnings conference call. Our results were released after yesterday's market closed, and a copy of the press release and slides are available on our website. I'd like to remind everyone that our press release, slides, and some of our comments today include forward-looking statements from which actual results may differ. Please review the cautionary statements included in our press release and presentation, as well as the risk factors described in our second quarter 10Q and 2020 10K. Now I'll turn it over to Mitch, Mick, and Tom.
spk04: Thanks, Paul, and good morning, everyone. I'll start off on slide three of today's presentation with some highlights from the quarter. Improved top-line performance was driven by an increase in gold and silver ounces sold and an uptick in our average realized silver price. These factors, along with some positive changes in working capital, led to significantly higher operating cash flow, both quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. This revenue and cash flow growth was largely a result of a 27% quarter-over-quarter increase in gold production at Wharf and a 15% quarter-over-quarter increase in silver production at Rochester. Kensington's gold production was down slightly due to timing, and Palmareo's production was essentially flat due to slightly lower grades offset by higher throughput. Looking ahead to the back half of the year, we are reiterating our production guidance and expect a strong second half at each of our operating locations for reasons that Mick will touch on. Overall operating costs increased during the period, reflecting higher throughput and underground development rates, additional maintenance expense, general inflationary pressures, and a non-cash charge at Rochester. Mick will also provide a bit more color on these items in a few minutes. We continued to advance our largest exploration campaign in company history and established a new record for meters drilled in a single quarter of nearly 100 kilometers with 27 drill rigs currently turning. We highlighted some of our progress in a press release we issued back in mid-June which showcased a new high-grade mineralized zone at our Silvertip Mine in northern British Columbia, and more excellent results from our Crown Exploration Property in southern Nevada. Turning to slide eight, you can see we have upped our exploration guidance for the year to keep building on the successes we are having. We now plan to invest approximately $75 million in exploration in 2021, which is nearly 50% higher than last year's record and two and a half times more than our investment in 2019. We continue to view our investment in exploration, which is one of the largest programs in our sector, as a very attractive allocation of capital and an important differentiator. Continuing with the growth narrative, I want to touch on the company's two major development priorities, the ongoing expansion at Rochester and the potential expansion and restart at Silver Tip. Starting with Rochester and looking at slides 11 through 13, POA 11 is advancing on schedule with overall progress at approximately 31% complete and over 90% of the contracts committed, representing roughly $334 million of capital at the end of June. Like most companies going through a large capital project right now, we've started to see the impact of inflation in areas such as contractor labor, building materials, and fuel on a small number of remaining uncommitted contracts. We'll be evaluating these last few contracts as they come in over the coming months, and we'll provide an update on our next call. And finally, our technical team continues to carry out optimization work to incorporate all the important learnings being generated during this transition period until the new infrastructure at Rochester is completed late next year. Turning over to Silvertip and looking at slide 14, the ongoing technical work and success of our exploration program combined with much more favorable market conditions have us feeling confident in a potential expansion and restart of Silvertip. As a result, we have accelerated our level of investment to take advantage of the summer construction season to complete a range of mostly surface projects. We plan to pull the ongoing exploration and technical work into an updated technical report, which is expected to be filed in early 2022. Without question, we believe the growing high-grade deposit at Silvertip is well worth the effort, despite the challenges we've had there in the past. With a retooled flow sheet and a larger, more reliable processing plant, we see Silvertip becoming a high-margin cash flow contributor over a very long mine life in an attractive jurisdiction. Before passing the call to Mick, I want to briefly mention the strategic investment we made in Victoria Gold. It was a unique opportunity to acquire the 18% block from Orion Mine Finance that aligns with our strategy and further bolsters our portfolio of precious metals assets in high quality jurisdictions. We are pleased to be a Victoria shareholder with how the investment has performed and with how the Victoria team is advancing its new Eagle open pit heap leach operation. Beyond that, I'm not going to speculate on today's call about potential scenarios or next steps, which I'm sure you can appreciate. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Mick.
spk00: Thanks, Mitch. Before going through the operational results, I want to point out a set of slides that highlight our steadfast commitment to protecting our people and upholding our top health and safety initiatives. starting on slide 20. In order to continuously enhance our safety culture and achieve great performance, we must work free of any uncontrolled exposures. We truly believe that health and safety do not improve unless the exposure is contained, reduced, or eliminated. As such, I'm proud to report that we recently completed our recertification for the National Mining Association's Core Safety Program And year to date, we're running towards the lowest lost time injury rate in our company history. And as I mentioned on my first call a year ago, when companies get health and safety right, strong operational performance follows. Now turning to slide six and beginning with Palmarejo, higher mill throughput and better metallurgical recoveries help to offset lower grades as we continue to encounter some geotechnical challenges. This led us to accelerate the rehabilitation of historical ground controls and resequence the main plan. This is expected to result in more ounces coming from the area covered by the gold stream, which results in a higher proportion of costs allocated to silver on a core product basis. We are confident in our ability to achieve production targets for the year and expect these impacts to be limited to 2021. And with annual EBITDA tax behind us, Palmarejo was able to generate roughly $24 million of free cash flow, over seven times higher than the prior period. This was another great example of how the team can routinely balance multiple priorities and still produce solid results for the business. Moving to Rochester, with a laser focus on short interval controls, we are beginning to see better results from material placed on interlift liners. which drove a 15% increase in silver production during the quarter. Gold production was also higher, supported by an aggressive run-of-mine campaign. It's also worth noting that these production levels represent significant improvements from where we were 12 months ago. Additionally, we commissioned the new secondary crusher over an 18-day period, which allowed us to begin placing Overliner on the new Stage 6 leach pad approximately six weeks ahead of schedule. Importantly, initial results from the new crusher have been quite positive. We've been able to operate at higher throughput rates, produce a more consistent crush product, and improve leachability of HPGR crushed ore relative to what we saw over the last few quarters. Building on this momentum, the team also successfully completed the fourth and final phase of our interlift line-ass strategy on the legacy Stage 4 leach pad. allowing us to place fresh material closer to plastic during this transition period. Unit costs came in higher than anticipated, largely driven by a change in our recovery assumptions on historically placed ore on the legacy pad. However, by switching to a coarser crush size and remaining focused on improving those short interval controls, we now expect to achieve a 56% recovery rate for silver on stage four over the next five years as we finish leaching on that pad. As Mitch mentioned, all the valuable experience and key learnings are helping us further de-risk and optimize POA 11 as we continue to execute on this pivotal expansion project. Switching over to Kensington, we saw slightly lower production as we processed some additional development ore from Jowallon. and changed out the liners in the ball mill. Unit costs for the quarter remained within guidance and totaled roughly $1,090 per ounce. The modest uptick in costs was driven by higher diesel prices and additional contractor support for drilling and maintenance, as well as fewer ounces sold. Looking ahead to the second half, Kensington is on track to generate its third consecutive year of solid free cash flow. Wrapping up with Wharf, we continued to place higher-grade material, which led to a 27% increase in gold production. This stronger performance was coupled with great financial discipline. The team did an excellent job managing costs while they continued to advance stripping and unloaded one of the leach pads, leading to free cash flow more than doubling quarter over quarter. All of this important work sets Worf up to finish the second half of the year on a high note. With that, I'll pass the call over to Tom.
spk03: Thanks, Mick. I'll quickly run through our consolidated financial results that are highlighted on slide five. 6% increase in quarterly revenue coupled with favorable changes in working capital helped us to generate $58 million of operating cash flow during the quarter. LTM EBITDA approached $300 million despite the non-cash inventory charge at Rochester this quarter. A 41% increase year over year and once again demonstrating the power of our portfolio, especially at these gold and silver prices. With production guidance reaffirmed, we expect to see increased cash flow generation during the second half of the year to help fund our key internal growth priorities. Next, turning to slide 15 and looking at the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with a strong cash position and no borrowings under the revolver, leading to nearly $390 million of liquidity and a net leverage ratio of one times, which leaves us well positioned to fund our 2021 CAPEX and expiration programs. It's worth pointing out that these numbers do not include the nearly $175 million of equity investments that we have on the balance sheet. As previously discussed, our financing strategy for the Rochester expansion included an element of capital leases. We were very pleased to have secured a capital lease package of nearly $60 million during the quarter. The cash will be used to help fund a portion of the planned equipment purchases for POA 11 and is above our original target of $50 million. The package has a five-year tenor and carries a fixed interest rate of 5.2%, which is in line with the senior notes that we issued earlier this year. Lastly, I wanted to quickly note that we opportunistically added to our hedge position during the quarter when spot gold prices approached $1,900.00. We now have 132,000 ounces of gold hedge next year with an average floor of $1,630 per ounce and an average ceiling of $2,038 per ounce. We will continue to proactively monitor the market to potentially layer in additional hedges on up to 50% of expected gold production in 2022 to underpin our cash flow during this period of elevated capital investment. I will now pass the call back to Mitch.
spk04: Thanks, Tom. Before moving to the Q&A, I want to quickly highlight slide 16 that summarizes our top priorities for the second half of the year. By accomplishing this set of priorities, we expect to enter 2022 with a clear and compelling path to delivering industry-leading organic growth from our balanced portfolio of North American precious metals assets. With that, let's go ahead and open it up for questions.
spk06: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Mark Reichman with Nobel Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk02: morning. So my first question relates to Rochester. So the technical report had forecast pre-production expenditures of about 397 million. So when you look at your release and you've committed 334 million of capital plus that additional 20 million, you know, bringing the total to 354. So what are your expectations now with respect to pre-production expenditures for the Rochester expansion?
spk04: Yeah. Hi, Mark. It's Mitch. Um, We're still anticipating kind of that even split between 2021 and 2022, roughly around that $200 million level in each of those two years. So maybe a little bit more now into 2022 with that additional $20 million that we referenced in the release that you mentioned. But otherwise, still that kind of even split between this year and next.
spk02: Yeah, well, so now just you don't really break out the development sustaining capital by mine. And I know that like Rochester development capital has been, you know, higher kind of like than the average for the entire budget for development. But so what would you say your development capital would be in 2021 and 2022?
spk04: Development, we break that out in the release, in the mind by mind sections, there's a CapEx bullet point or two that has sustaining versus development. Tom, do you happen to have that in front of you? I don't have that as well. I think the Rochester sustaining this year is only 10 or 15 million dollars. And then the rest is all development related to POA 11.
spk02: Okay, so 10 to 15 in each year, so to speak, and then the remaining. So if you kind of keep it at 200 a year, and then the 15 would be sustaining and the remainder would be. So do you think you'll get pretty close to that 397, or do you think you'll run under, or do you think with inflation? I guess I'm just trying to gauge kind of whether that's still a pretty good number.
spk04: Yeah, great question. It's a fluid, dynamic time, like we mentioned in the release and in our comments. We're lucky or fortunate to have the vast majority of the capital already committed. We have just a tad over $60 million uncommitted still. So that's where we'll receive some bids here in the next Next few months, we'll pick those apart. But those have a lot of steel, piping, cement, and contract labor rates in there. And so our eyes are wide open on those remaining elements. And that's where some of this escalation pressure is starting to be seen a little bit. So we'll have more to say at the end of the third quarter once we get all that in and sort through it and see where we are. At least at Rochester, that's only on a pretty small, relatively speaking, small piece of that remaining uncommitted capital.
spk02: Okay. And just to clarify one thing on our discussion on the development capital. So if you're saying 200, it sounds to me like you kind of expect to be at the upper end of the range for Rochester in terms of where the guidance is.
spk04: Yeah, I think that's probably a fair assumption for now until we come back and give you more clarity later this year.
spk02: That's really helpful. I really appreciate it. Thanks very much.
spk06: Yeah, sure, Mark. Thanks. The next question is from Joseph Rieger with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.
spk05: Morning, guys, and congrats on a solid quarter.
spk04: Hey, Joe. Thanks.
spk05: little bit more on Rochester. So in the release, you mentioned that $20 million, the previous caller mentioned as well. Can you give us a little bit more color on where that's going and how creative you think that extra investment is?
spk04: Yeah, sure. Good question. It's a lot of little things, but Terry Smith is sitting here and he'll... Terry, can you cover that quick?
spk01: Yeah, sure. Good question, Joe. And You know, the funding really underpins that we want to build Rochester for long-term success. And there's a lot of incremental pieces to this, but it really comes down to improving the safety, availability, and operability of the infrastructure that we're putting in place. And just to give you some color on that, you know, we upgraded the geotechnical design in the crusher pocket, making that a safer excavation for the long term. We put some redundant pumps in to the Merrill Crow plant. That'll increase availability of that plant in the long term. We've put a more sophisticated control system in the leach pad and the Merrill Crow plant, which will make that a more efficient set of leach operations going forward. So, you know, overall, we're pretty happy with all of these little upgrades. Unfortunately, it costs money, but we feel these are good returns for the long term.
spk05: Does that help, Joe? Yeah, yeah, that's helpful. And then on the inflation that you guys mentioned, can you give us kind of an order of magnitude on that? Are we talking a couple percent? Are we talking 10 to 15? Or are we talking some larger magnitude level of pressure?
spk04: More on the OPEC side, Joe?
spk05: Um, no, uh, specifically with the contracts at Rochester.
spk04: Yeah. Um, I would, I would say it's the labor rates that are the biggest, um, component of, of the pressure being, being, uh, seen. Um, and then probably followed by the, I'm just thinking about the dollars associated with each cement steel. A lot of copper conduit goes into the Merrill Crow, into the Crusher Corridor. Those are four of the main drivers. Tom, Terry, am I leaving any big ones out?
spk03: No. And Joe, just to add a little color, right? I mean, those two... Those two SMPI contracts in the budget were roughly about $60 million, just to give you a sense of what that order of magnitude is. So, again, as Mitch said earlier, we're obviously pretty happy that we've committed a lot of the capital earlier, and so we'll be evaluating those bids here over the third quarter. We'll be back to everyone during the next call with where those ultimately landed.
spk05: Okay. Fair enough. And then one final thing. There's been a number of companies that are traditionally Mexican-focused, silver miners or just miners in general, who seem to be diversifying out of Mexico. They've made some, let's call it, unfavorable tax decisions in recent years. What do you guys think about long-term with Palma Río? Do you see it as something where when it's mined out, you're done in Mexico? Do you see other opportunities there? You know, maybe just big picture five-year plan there.
spk04: Yeah, great question. Mexico has become a more challenging jurisdiction relative to, you know, our other jurisdictions here in the U.S. and up north in Canada. From a growth standpoint, you know, you can see the majority of our growth, really organic growth is coming over the next few years from the U.S. and Canada. That all said, though, you know, you look at, you referenced, Joe, a five-year window. What we can do at Palmareo over the next five years operationally, what we're seeing with our exploration, especially at these elevated levels, and there's a whole new world off to the east there at Palmareo that sits outside of the Gold Stream AOI that We are very focused on sort of extending our exploration reach east of Palmareo. There's a lot of targets, a lot of potential, a lot of historic resources that we inherited when we bought Paramount, you'll recall from several years ago. So there's a lot more to do there, especially with a higher exploration budget. For the last four or five years, frankly, we've been pretty focused on that corridor right between and including into Peninsula and Guadalupe, and sort of extending those both to the northwest and to the southeast, and then drilling in between them. But, you know, we're starting to now develop enough of a runway down there that we're able to kind of pick our heads up a little bit and look around in a more expansive way, and there's still a lot to do down there. So we're totally committed on Palmareo and excited about the the prospects there for what should be a, hopefully a long, long time still.
spk05: Okay. Thanks for the color. Yeah, sure.
spk06: Thanks Joe. The next question is from Brian MacArthur with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
spk10: Hi, good morning. And thanks for taking my question. Um, my questions relate to silver tip. So a couple of things you talk about, uh, making a bigger, uh, mill. There are some pictures in there showing you're cleaning up the site, but we're spending $50 to $65 million now. I'm just trying to think through the timing of this, and I realize you may not be able to give us everything until the study comes out early next year. But you talk about starting in 2023, and winter up there is not the easiest time. If you go forward with this, is the concept, you get the study early next year, you'd be able to order um, what you need for the bigger mill and then you get it up and running sort of late 2023. Is that kind of the way we're tentatively thinking about it? I'm just trying to get a little bit more color on the spending and you're obviously trying to get ahead a little bit with that capital, but any more color on how that actually could unfold would be helpful.
spk04: Yeah, sure. Fair, fair question. And I think you have it about right. You know, if, if all sort of signs point to yes later this year, um, That sort of early 2023 commissioning ramping up throughout the middle of the year and hopefully hitting a commercial production level later in 2023 would be the way we'd envision it playing out. And you're dead on in terms of northern BC taking advantage of this season now the way we are with some of this early work's capital that we're investing helps kind of de-risk that potential timetable. I guess just the other piece I'd throw out there is when you think about capital, which schedule and capital are the two things we're working very hard to pin down here in the second half of the year, but we anticipate that the majority of capital that would be invested in Silvertip would be funded from an offtake financing. So hopefully that helps you think through, you know, to the extent you're thinking about balance sheet or any liquidity questions, you know, that's sort of going to be a large part of the solution there.
spk10: No, that's very helpful as well. But Are you actually going to have to put a new mill in there? I'm just trying to think of when you'd be shipping that in with the weather and all that up there. Is that being envisioned? That's the other part I was just trying to figure out. Timing-wise, to get that in, I guess, next summer would be the goal is kind of what you're looking for, I guess. Am I thinking about that right?
spk04: You're thinking about it right. Bigger mill building. There's some pieces of infrastructure that will be – carry over or remaining. But that's one of the big elements of this early works going on right now is decommissioning and cutting out a lot of that legacy infrastructure. So it's going to be a little bit of a mix, but that would all hit the site next construction season would be the plan under that 2023 scenario.
spk10: Great. Thanks very much for that caller, Mitch. That's very helpful.
spk06: Yeah, sure. Thanks, Brian. Take care. The next question is from Carl Blunden with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk09: Hi, morning. Thanks. Thanks so much for the time. Yeah. Um, maybe just to follow up on silver tip, you anticipated a question I had there around funding of it, right? Cause you're obviously funding Rochester right now as well. And, uh, you know, good, good to hear that you've got other ways to finance it relative to the balance sheet. Um, When you think about that project, is it fair to say at this point that you're committed to it? Are there some risk factors you're still exploring before you go ahead, or have you learned enough at this point in time?
spk04: Still, there's always an off-ramp. We don't want to do anything there that's not... We need to get that right. Expanding and restarting that, we're not going to get another chance at that. This approval or this kind of inflection point late this year. Let the drills keep turning, get all this technical work done, get the mine plan updated with all the drilling. There will be very much of an off-ramp available to us later this year. I'd like to think that that off-ramp is more around the question of timing and not a question of if regarding a silvertip restart, more of a when, not an if. But let's get the answers, and then we can lay it all out and see how it looks.
spk09: Gotcha. And then is the kind of decisions around what an uptake agreement might look like, is that something that is a later 2021 event, or is the timing of that decision also subject to some kind of wider timeframes?
spk04: Yeah, Tom, you want to just give a little bit of color on that offtake?
spk03: Yeah, thanks, Mitch. So obviously we've had preliminary conversations with potential partners, and I think it's fair to say the market has turned around a lot faster and is much better than we anticipated, and we're looking forward to sharing some of the network that we've been busy executing here over the last 12 months and And marrying that up with the schedule and mine plan, those conversations will accelerate here in the second half of the year so that any restart would be tied to an offtake agreement. And again, just reiterating Mitch's point that the majority of the funding of any additional capital would be supported from this offtake financing.
spk04: Carl, it's hard to imagine a better environment for Tom to have this objective It's a great time to have a good, high-quality concentrate product to be looking for, as you, Tom, say, a happy home.
spk03: Again, I think while we were operating Silvertip, one of the things that always worked well was the logistics. The trucking, the shipping, that piece of it was always great. I think it's fair to say people are looking for high-quality counterparties like like CORE, New York Stock Exchange listed top ESG. This will be an attractive concentrate, and we're looking forward to advancing those conversations.
spk09: Yeah, that's fantastic. I can just squeeze in one more. So you have these different growth options. You also then would look to potentially extend mine life. I get some questions about Kensington, for example. Is that something that you could look to extend, and would there be significant capital investment required as you look over the next two or three years?
spk04: Yeah. You point out that's our shortest mine life there at Kensington, and we have accelerated our level of exploration investment there last year in particular. Now this year, I think it's our third biggest allocation this year at about almost $14 million. That's one of the reasons we bumped up our full year exploration investment guidance ranges is because of the elevated levels of investment there at Kensington, all of which should help move that needle in terms of overall mine life. It's not quick, it's not the easiest place to drill and expand and extend, just given the nature of the deposit and the infrastructure and where it is, but we're optimistic there that that will have some success come year-end. You may recall a lot of the conversion drilling, the infill drilling last year, didn't take place until late in the year, and so it didn't make its way into the year-end reserve. So, you know, we've got a lot of that from last year carrying over into 2021, plus an elevated level of investment there. This year, they're having some really good results, and so We're encouraged. I know Mick and Hans are excited. They're heading up there next week to get a deeper dive into the exploration program there. So hopefully that gives you some additional color, Carl.
spk09: Yeah, that's really helpful. Thanks, Mitch. Thanks, Tom. Appreciate it. OK.
spk06: The next question is from Michael Dudas with Vertical Research. Please go ahead. Good morning, gentlemen.
spk04: Hi, Mike.
spk02: First question, Mitch, may you update us on, I know you've done great protocols relative to COVID, but like at your operations, U.S., Canada, Mexico, like percentage of employees vaccinated, has there any issues or any incoming concerns or recent evidence with the variants starting to show up a little more aggressively, especially in the South?
spk04: Yeah, great question. You know, after the last Whatever it's been 15 months or so. One of the biggest risks is just people putting, you know, letting their guard down. I think though our controls have been serving us well. At this point we feel good with with where we are in terms of vaccination rates. Interestingly, at our at our underground mines, so Kensington, Palmareo, Silvertip. Vaccination rates hover right around 80 at 80% level. And I think a lot of that has to do with, you know, if you get vaccinated, then you're going to have less of a quarantine requirement or logistical issues, you know, going to and from site. And so that's been a big incentive, and I think that's driven those vaccination rates up like that. Out west here in the U.S., vaccination rates are a little bit more typical of what you're seeing kind of on a national basis, you know, little shy of half of our folks vaccinated, but that doesn't mean that we're not still doing testing, distancing, masking for unvaccinated. The technology that we implemented has continued to really help in terms of distancing and contact tracing, you know, those things that were all the new buzzwords a year ago. We're still doing them. And I'm really, really proud of what we put in place, how we've stuck to it, and how it's allowed us to continue to largely, except for the hiccups in Mexico, the government suspension temporarily in Q2 last year down there. Otherwise, we've been continuing to operate, which has been great. Mick, did I miss anything?
spk00: No, it's great. Really good, robust controls at all of the sites, and we continue to apply them, not on the quarantine front, because we'll have really good vaccination rates and continue with those other controls, but overall, a high level of confidence that we have control of that issue.
spk02: Does that help, Mike? Absolutely, no, very good. That's very helpful. My second question is, maybe Mitch can share some observations on some of the corporate activity going on in Southern Nevada and how that highlights your block down there and just the kind of longer-term prospects of how things could work out, you know, from a value-creating standpoint from all the parties down there.
spk04: Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's well asked, Mike. It is an exciting district. Thank you. Lots of activity obviously going on. We really like the strategic land position that we have there in southern Nevada. Even though some activity is going on with our neighbors, it doesn't really change what we need to do, which is continue to drill, hopefully continue to have success expanding the resource there at Crown in those four deposits. daisy sna secret pass and seahorse we're continuing to uh focus on pulling the drilling together there into a assessment or a technical report middle part of next year so we can take a look at that as a future potential operation in southern nevada to go along with what everything we have up in northern nevada and you know as far as the activity you know look we're always open to talking to our neighbors and evaluating opportunities or ideas for how we could rationalize capital, share risk, expand the collective pie, right? And so we got good relationships, I think, in the neighborhood down there and hope to continue to build on them as we keep the The drill's turning. I think we're spending about $14 million in drilling there at Crown. A little bit of that is also at Sterling, just to the south. That's a reflection of how enthusiastic we are about it and how quickly you can grow a resource, an oxide near-surface gold resource in southern Nevada. Just keep the drills turning and we're seeing some good results. Hopefully that gives you a little bit of flavor for how we're thinking about things.
spk02: No, I appreciate that. Just to qualify, it sounds as if it'll be different this time as opposed to historical alliances and situations. It appears that there's too much to be had, especially in a world of ESG, carbon, and capital discipline, I would think.
spk04: Yes, and it's great to... I certainly hope so. I guess I can't speak for everybody that operates down there, but to have a blank slate, essentially, new, large, you know, it's a great place to operate down there, and we can hopefully approach it with that sort of mentality, Mike, of how do we do this in a way that works best for everybody, works best for the environment, for the community, for all the stakeholders. It's probably the most exciting thing going on in Nevada right now in terms of gold and new discoveries and exploration. So it's a lot of buzz. Beatty's hopping. Beatty, Nevada in Nye County is the place to be. Absolutely. Good luck. Thanks, Mitch. Appreciate your talk. Thanks, Mike.
spk06: The next question is from Mike Sierka with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk07: Thanks. Thanks, guys, for taking the question. Back to the quarter for a second. Could you get into a little bit more detail on the inventory charges at Rochester in the quarter? Maybe what the specific cause was of the lower recovery that you're seeing and if we should be expecting any further impacts going forward there?
spk04: Yeah, sure. I'll just start with one or two quick comments and then pass it over. I've got Tom and Mick both looking at me, nodding their heads, but that stage four, Pad, Mike, is a legacy, mature pad, deep, a lot of noise that exists within that pad. The way we're trying to de-risk that in the interim here, in the near term, is mitigating it with some interlift liners. And so all of this sort of goes away then as we transition over to stage six once it's completed. But there's been, as we've mentioned in the past, some ore in the pit, variable ore types that have led to the creation of fines, some with some higher sulfide content. That material sits out there on stage four as we've mined and crushed that and learned about those different ore types. And so all of those learnings essentially have gone into then the need to adjust that estimate in terms of a recovery rate on stage four. I don't know if that gives any good color, but maybe, Mick, Tom, over to you to fill in any blanks that I left out.
spk00: On the ore type, it was a new ore type, a little bit softer, so the balance between soft and hard ores. It's been a great learning for us. We're doing some additional core drilling over the next 18 months to make sure that we'll have a really good characterization of that ore body and the ore body knowledge that as we head into part six. So really, really good timing for us to get that knowledge.
spk03: And maybe just the last piece of your question, Mike, was do you expect anything more? And so the answer is no. No, again, we've gone back, looked at the data, analyzed it, And as Nick said, going forward, we've got a 56% recovery rate on stage four for the remainder of the life of that pad. And so we're comfortable that we took the accounting charge that was required.
spk07: Okay, that's great, Culler. Thanks very much. And then maybe just back to a higher level question. You know, depending on how you look at it, you have maybe four or five projects on the go between brochester silvertip uh the the extended uh exploration program and maybe crown as well as as whatever ends up happening in victoria so you have off-take financing potential you have some some downside protection from the hedges you have available credit but can you talk a little bit more about your confidence in executing on all of these priorities over the next couple of years and in the context of the balance sheet maybe some of the inflationary pressures you're seeing? Are there other levers to pull there? Are you looking at maybe your equity investments as a source of capital? How are you thinking about all these things, appreciating that it's an ongoing process?
spk04: No, it's a great question. It's kind of a key question, certainly one I've devoted a lot of time to. Maybe I'll take the kind of bandwidth question that you're asking, and then, Tom, you can cover maybe the levers and the balance sheet aspect of the question. I think with the board, over the last few years around development of our strategy, along with that came a concerted effort to kind of bolster the team to align with that strategy, to be able to deliver on the strategy. And then sitting on top of all of that has been a lot of work that has gone into you know, culture. And I know people like to talk about culture, but, you know, we have one here that is very much of a performance driven, make an impact, um, uh, and, and, and achieve, um, meaningful things. And we have a, I'd say a highly motivated and inspired group, not, and I'm not talking about the people just in this, in this room, uh, but even, you know, deeper into the organization that, um, have a high level of motivation about achieving great things and getting this company from kind of the here to there. And that there looks really exciting. Every time I'm talking to a group of people here at the company about where these initiatives can take this company, there's a lot of enthusiasm in the room and a lot of excitement and a lot of alignment around making it happen. And so that's contagious. I think we've got to We have a lot on the move, but I think we're able to prioritize and stay above kind of a lot of the noise because we have good teams underneath us that are handling a lot of the blocking and tackling and allowing us to really focus on these high-impact initiatives that you kind of walk through there. And so three or four years ago, capacity, bandwidth, definite challenge. Now, I think we've built the organization up to where it's capable of delivering on this strategy and delivering on those priorities. And I wasn't able to say that in years past.
spk03: Tom, do you want to cover the other aspect of the question? Sure. Mike, you kind of answered it almost for me, but again, between our cash on hand The debt capacity and the cash flow from operations is essentially the key way that we're going to fund. Again, that debt capacity, just as a reminder, we've got a $300 million revolver completely undrawn. There's a $100 million accordion that's completely at our discretion that we could draw upon. And then, again, silver tip we talked about earlier in the call, the offtake agreement. I mean, other things that we do have at our disposal that, you know, we've got $175 million of equity investments, which include the big chunk of that Victoria Gold, how that plays into the future funding. All this kind of underpinned with robust scenario analysis that we go through with the board once a quarter in tremendous detail, flexing all of the various assumptions, commodity prices, capital costs, et cetera, et cetera. So, you know, we feel really confident in our ability. And most importantly, we talk about this a lot, everything's still within our control. And, you know, we look forward to telling you more about the story as we make some more decisions for the rest of the year.
spk04: And I just add, tack on at the end here, Tom, the pie of funding sources can't overstate the importance of the free cash flow coming from Palmareo, Wharf, Kensington, and then Rochester's own operating cash flow as it continues to improve quarter over quarter. Combined, those from our multi-asset kind of portfolio here, that's a big chunk of the funding that goes along with all the other levers and options that Tom mentioned. So, you know, $1,800... gold and $25 silver obviously help. Uh, but you know, together we feel you put all those pieces together and, and, and you look at this year and next year and we feel, feel good about the balance sheet.
spk07: So I guess if I can, uh, maybe I'm, I'm backing into a CapEx question for, for silver chip, but I guess then what you're saying is it's, it's fair to say that you can maintain the level of exploration spending at least into partially into 2022. fund the restart of Silvertip and Rochester, and you're comfortable doing all of that within the available capital that you have, the balance sheet that you have today, without really doing anything else. That's a fair statement?
spk04: Fair statement. Mick's got to execute on the operations, and gold and silver can't fall through the floor. But with those two caveats, yeah, your statement's a fair one.
spk07: Okay, great. Thanks very much for the time, guys. Yeah, sure. Good questions.
spk06: The next question is from Dalton Barreto with Canaccord. Please go ahead.
spk04: Hey, Dalton. Thanks, Brad.
spk08: Hey, Matt. Good morning. A couple of questions for me, just kind of in that same vein. Let's start with Silver Tip and offtake financing. If memory serves, there was an offtake agreement with Ocean Partners. Has that completely fallen away now?
spk03: Tom, you want to take that? That agreement just isn't valid right now because we haven't been able to produce a concentrate quality that's within the specification that's required by that contract. We're, again, hopeful that with the restart we'll be in a position to have a concentrate quality that we know we can produce consistently and we'll be able to have a further discussion with them and others around finding happy homes for the concentrate.
spk08: Okay, but it doesn't restrict you in any way from talking to other offtake partners? Correct. Got it. Okay. And then, you know, as you were listing off your funding sources here, you didn't mention the ATM. What are your plans around that?
spk04: Great question. You're two for two, Dalton. First question was a good one. That's a good one, too. Yeah, we put that in maybe a little over a year ago, maybe even actually in April, when the darkest of days of COVID and a lot of uncertainty, a lot of unknowns. One thing at that time we felt like we could probably consider unknown is just the liquidity in our shares. And so we thought, look, we should put something in place so that we have a last resort, you if things really go upside down here. And at that time, of course, it seems like forever ago, but we didn't know where things were going to go. Now, fast forward to today, you know, we've just, we've left it there and don't have any plans to use it or tap into it. But, you know, it's not a bad arrow to have in the quiver. It's just almost like a, a mixed shelf, you know, just maintain that. So if, if things play out in a, in a way that are totally unanticipated, you know, it's there, but that's, that's kind of how we think about it. Tom, did I, yeah. Anything you want to add? Okay. Does that help?
spk08: Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. And then given what you were saying about inflation around the remaining contracts at Rochester, are you, are you moving to secure anything at silver tip ahead of time?
spk04: Well, it's a good question also. Part of the early works was let's get some of this stuff done before the planning on some of this stuff goes back a little ways so that we were able to lock in some kind of pre-escalation levels on some of this work. It's another kind of moving target as we as we work here in the second half toward a more definitive capital estimate too. So we're now, we're kind of, we rushed to get some of this early work stuff in and remove some of that escalation risk in the very near term. Now as we think about the next, the larger build out, now we're going to have to really sort of take the full effects of escalation into account and thinking through that, and then how can we potentially mitigate that? How can we approach our strategy, our contracting strategy, potentially in this world that we're now all kind of living in? So it's a good question, and it's something that we're, you know, it's going to be incorporated into a lot of the aspects of what we'll need to do up there at Silvertip.
spk08: Okay, and then on the $300 and change million that's been committed already for Rochester, those contracts, are they fixed either from a unit price or from a volume perspective, or are there escalators in there?
spk01: It's a blend of lump sum and unit rate contracts.
spk08: Okay, great. And then just maybe one last one for me, Mitch. I know you said you wouldn't comment on Victoria, but I'm just wondering, you know, Eagle is reasonably proximal to Silver. Are there any form of operating synergies there at all?
spk04: You know, Dalton, potentially just on a map, but, you know, too early to say, you know, not a question that for now is one that's probably worth trying to answer. But it's duly noted and something that's worth keeping in mind. Great. Thanks again, guys. Yeah, sure, Dalton. Thanks.
spk06: The next question is a follow-up from Mark Reichman with Nobel Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Mr. Reichman, your line is open.
spk02: There you are. Oh, thank you. Just a quick follow-up on SilverTip. So you're increasing the investment, you know, ahead of the economic analysis and really ahead of the signing of any offtake agreements to kind of lock in the economics. And so, you know, everything seems to be moving in a really good path there, a real good direction. But my question is, you mentioned the off ramp. So if you decided not to move this forward, how much of that $75 to $90 million would you have spent? Or how much would you end up kind of writing off of that? I mean, you know, in terms of versus the alternative of waiting to spend that money or commit that capital after the economic analysis?
spk04: Now, fair question. I think, you know, the way we think about it, Marker, is almost everything that we need to do, that we're doing actually right now, needs to be done no matter what. And whether that is for us, whether that's for somebody else, if we, you know, look to monetize it down the road. You know, these are things that are adding value to the project when you have a long-term kind of lens on Silver Tip. You know, and just pulling back the lens a little bit further, you know, we're trying to balance as a company a few priorities, right? We want to, number one, POA 11, we've got to deliver a successful project. project there. And we don't want Silvertip, we've heard this feedback from a lot of our stockholders, you know, don't let Silvertip take our eye off the ball at Rochester. And we're very mindful of that and we're not letting that happen. We also want to, we're very committed to that 2023 positive free cash flow objective. You know, we've staked a lot on that and I think that's important for our investors as we think about potentially getting into a place where we can think about returning capital rather than investing capital into our assets. And I think delaying that out into the future is not a good thing for the company. But then we also don't want to unduly strain the balance sheet, especially in 2022. And so those are all the pieces that we're trying to find the right sort of combination with some variables still unknown to get that mix right and try and ensure that we're satisfying all of those priorities. And so one of the, with that 2023 goal in particular, investing this capital now at Silvertip is really essential to allowing us to kind of achieve that schedule that we talked about a little bit ago with a prior question in terms of how that 2023 startup would go. In order to do that, we've got to do this work now that we're doing. So I don't know if those thoughts help, but that's how we're thinking about it.
spk02: No, that was really helpful. I really appreciate that. Thanks, Mitch.
spk04: You bet.
spk02: Thanks.
spk06: Again, if you have a question, please press star then 1. The next question is a follow-up from Brian MacArthur with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you for taking my follow-up question. Two things just back to Silvertip. First, just so I'm really clear, because I sort of had a question about that historical concentrate contract, and you sort of said you never met the qualifications, which makes sense. But just to be clear... do they still have a right because you never met that qualification so that there's something enforceable about that contract? Or do they have a right of first refusal or anything? Or do we start with a clean slate if we go down that route, meaning we can get, there's no historical concentrate deals that have to be filled first, which would have some impact on the potential financing going forward.
spk03: Tom, you want to take it? Sure, yeah. So look, it's fair to say the company has a strong relationship with Ocean Partners. They were great partners for us while we were in silvertip production, when we were not producing concentrate qualities where they needed to be. We sell some of the concentrate at Kensington with them. And so we'll find a commercial agreement, I think, that's Again, it goes back to what we've been stating all along, that a majority of the silver tip funding of the capital will be funded via an offtake, and I'll just leave it at that.
spk10: And I guess, to be fair, obviously, if you build a bigger operation, you'll have more con to play around with anyway, so that gives you more flexibility, right?
spk04: And a consistent, attractive product as well, yeah. Yeah.
spk10: Okay, and sorry, my second question, and I realize this is not critical factor making your decision on silver tip. But are there tax pools that would enhance whatever return that you decide you could get at silver tip if you go ahead? Because again, as we talk about allocating capital around the world, tax is an important part of the equation.
spk04: Great question. And the short answer is yes. Tom, over to you. Do you want to fill in the blank?
spk03: Yeah, no. We have nearly $300 million of operating losses that will help shelter some of the taxable income that we'll be generating. So absolutely, that is a factor in any capital allocation decision that we make across the company that obviously helps when it comes to silver tip that the amount of tax that we'll be paying is not as high as as you might otherwise think.
spk10: Great, thanks very much. I thought that was right, but I just wanted to check. Thank you.
spk06: Yeah, no problem. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mitch Krebs for any closing remarks.
spk04: Okay, great. Well, hey, we appreciate everybody's time this morning, a lot of great questions, and we look forward to speaking with you all again in the fall to discuss our third quarter results. Thanks again.
spk06: The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
Disclaimer

This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.

-

-