Coeur Mining, Inc.

Good day and welcome to the Core Mining First Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in the listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Kraft, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining our call today to discuss our first quarter results. Joining me are Mick Routledge, Aoife McGrath, and Tom Whalen, and we'll all be available to answer questions at the end of the call. Before we start, please note our cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements and refer to our SEC filings on our website. The first quarter highlights shown on slide three summarize our solid start to the year, which led to the fourth consecutive quarter of positive EPS and another quarter of positive free cash flow. These were great outcomes considering the first quarter is expected to be our lightest quarter of the year. and we had several one-time and quarter-specific items that we had previously telegraphed. The combination of higher prices, the addition of Silvercrest liquidity, and a partial quarter from Las Chispas, along with Rochester's progress toward achieving steady state and consistent performance from our other operations, drove these strong results. which allowed us to eliminate nearly $130 million of debt and metal prepaid facilities in the quarter and leave us well positioned to achieve our full year guidance ranges. We're now set to accelerate the pace of further debt reductions based on strong anticipated silver and gold production growth from our balanced portfolio of five North American operations. This growth is expected to drive full year adjusted EBITDA to over $700 million and free cash flow to more than $300 million, which should leave us with a year-end leverage ratio close to zero. It was only a few quarters ago when annualized adjusted EBITDA was only about $100 million, free cash flow was negative $300 million, and our leverage ratio was over four times, which highlights the degree of change now underway at the company. Just a couple of other points before turning the call over to Mick. First, on Las Chispas, the integration is proceeding smoothly. The operation delivered very strong, high-grade production at extremely low costs during the portion of the quarter that we owned it. As we anticipated, the teams have gelled exceptionally well. On the exploration front, recent emphasis on near-mine drilling resulted in a significant discovery in the gap zone between the Bobby Canora and Las Chispas zones. Several high-grade results have been received in and adjacent to the Las Chispas zone. IFA will share some additional details on these developments in a few minutes. Second, in our interactions with current and prospective shareholders, one of the most popular topics is our thought process for deploying the accelerating cash flows we anticipate generating in the coming quarters. It's a great conversation to have given the years of heavy investment that's been made to position the company like it is right when gold and silver prices are rising. Our board is committed to pursuing ways to generate per share value for our shareholders and we're actively engaged with them about how best to accomplish that while continuing to strengthen the balance sheet and reinvest in the business given the number of attractive opportunities that exist within the company. We look forward to continuing the conversations with our shareholders and with our board as we deliver on what should be a record year for the company, and we'll provide more details as we have them. Finally, we published our 2024 Responsibility Report today, which is summarized on slide 20. Being responsible stewards and acting with integrity and respect are central to our mission of pursuing a higher standard. and I encourage you to have a look and read about everything we've accomplished over the past year. Mick, over to you.

Thanks, Mitch. The addition of Las Chispas, Rochester's ramp up, and consistent contributions from the rest of the mine sites were the main headlines during first quarter. Before getting into the details of our good start to 2025, I'm happy to report that based on MSHA data, Kerr finished 2024 as the safest mining company amongst our peers in the United States, marking our third consecutive year of doing so. We take a lot of pride in our deeply entrenched safety culture and we will continue to set the bar high in this critical area. Mitch mentioned the word balanced in describing our portfolio of mains and it bears noting that with the additions of Las Chispas and the expanded Rochester, Kerr's asset base has never been more balanced, with no single operation contributing more than roughly a quarter of total revenue. That is quite a departure from past years, when revenue from Palmarejo alone approached 50% of the total in some periods. The importance of having all minds making meaningful contributions spreads operating risk and lends consistency and predictability to our overall portfolio. Going through the sites and starting with our newest Las Chispas. Partial first quarter production of 714,000 ounces of silver and over 7,000 ounces of gold was right down the fairway versus Silvercrest's budget. Daily average mine production exceeding 1,300 tons per day was better than planned. bringing in higher margin ounces with cash per ounce for gold and silver coming to $744 and $8.38 respectively for the period. Slide 7 provides a great reminder of how special Las Chispas is in terms of grade, cost, and margin profile. Starting with Mexico, the Palm Rio team delivered another solid quarter, Gold production was up 2% and silver production up 9% compared to the fourth quarter, driven by good productivity in Guadalupe to finish the quarter strongly. The Palmarejo and Las Chispas teams are engaging with sharing of best practices and new perspectives taking place in both directions, with lots of opportunities to realize efficiencies and productivity enhancements in CUR's expanded Mexico operations footprint. as well as sharing and working with our teams at Kensington and Silvertip. Turning to Rochester, crusher performance continued to improve with optimization of the mile-long three-stage crushing circuit, and this remains job number one. The team placed 7 million tons during the quarter, relying less on direct-to-pad tons than in the prior quarter as more material goes through the crusher. The team continues to work down the line to identify and implement adjustments and modifications to progress improvements in availability. Recovery rates continue to track to predicted levels and are expected to trend higher as the average crush size trends down throughout the year towards an expected average of seven eighths of an inch, which is what our budget and reaffirmed full year guidance assumes. One other note on Rochester, The team commenced the 8 million tonne stripping campaign for the partial removal of the Stage 1 and 2 reclaimed leach pads, to allow for infill drilling later in the year, as we look to bring forward higher grade material into Rochester's mine plant. Moving to Kensington, gold production increased by 6% compared to the first quarter a year ago. with the operation well positioned to reap the benefits of the multi-year investment in underground and mine development and exploration, and a return to positive free cash flow this year. Finishing up with Wharf, first quarter production came in slightly higher compared to the first quarter of last year, as weather tends to pose challenges there during the winter months, but Wharf is well positioned to deliver another strong year in 2025. With that, I will pass the call over to Aoife.

Thanks, Mick. Expiration got off to a very strong start in 2025, with as many as 21 rigs active in the quarter, with encouraging results across the board. As a recap, the company's exploration investment in 2025 is expected to total $77 to $93 million, of which approximately 85% is focused on expansion and scouts drilling. At Las Chispas, the key aims were to complete the integration of the team and reorient exploration programs from the wider region to a greater focus on the main asset. This integration has now been completed and programs aimed at maintaining a steady mine life are in place. You can see on slide 9 more details about a notable new discovery that was made during the quarter of a new vein called Augusta, which to date has been defined over 200 metres along strike and 150 metres down dip. It is running multi-kilo silver, very high-grade gold, and remains open in every direction. In addition to the highly encouraging discovery in the gap zone, drilling on multiple veins on and adjacent to the last chisplast block have returned high-grade intercepts that show increasing strike length on each vein. Early days at Las Chispas, but very encouraging results from the outset. At Palmareo, ongoing programs encompass the full spectrum of exploration, from district-scale target generation through to expansion drilling. A pilot program of high-resolution geophysics was flown in late 2024 and is proving highly impactful. Exploration can now more accurately identify the subsurface locations of favourable host rocks and structures, meaning scout drilling should assess targets more efficiently. An exciting structural study and mineralisation review was also undertaken during the quarter, which shows consistent styles of mineralisation across the district, indicating very high prospectivity in all four major belts, three of which are still underexplored and are shown on slide 10. The recently signed agreement gives us full access to the entire Guadalajara area that covers Independencia sewer and the historic San Miguel and La Union resources, along with many other targets in the Guadalajara trend in the northeast of the claim block. Also of note during the quarter is the validation drilling that commenced at Independencia sewer. Drilling testing the historic fresneo resources and their continuity from established veins and mines on coir ground is proving highly encouraging with high grade results in the corridor. At Silvertip, a brand new geological model was completed, which is proving an exciting tool for targeting and exploration program planning. In addition, We more than tripled the land package at Silvertip in the first quarter by staking over 60 kilometres of strike length of prospective ground that has the same geologic setting as Silvertip. With that, I'll pass the call over to Tom.

Thanks, Aoife. I'll begin with a brief review of our 1Q financial results, our first quarter with the inclusion of Las Chispas, albeit for only 45 days. Despite our lightest production quarter, we are proud to be able to report a fourth consecutive quarter of net income and a third straight quarter of free cash flow. With the previously telegraphed messy first quarter behind us, we look forward to a series of boringly predictable quarters as we embark on the final steps on our journey of achieving our deleveraging goal of net debt to EBITDA of nil. As noted on slide 11, with just under 90,000 ounces of gold, and 4 million ounces of silver sold during the quarter, we got a serious sneak peek at what the consolidated core portfolio can generate in terms of financial results. Key financial headlines for the quarter included revenue of $360 million, quarterly adjusted EBITDA of $149 million, net income of $33 million, and free cash flow of $18 million. We were pleased to see our adjusted EBITDA margin increase to 41% during Q1. essentially doubling from the prior year. As we had flagged during the year-end conference call, there were several one-timers and first-quarter specific matters totaling $130 million, which impacted our Q1 free cash flow. Slide 13 provides a clean snapshot of these five items. Helping to offset these outflows was the monetization of $72 million from Silvercrest finished goods and bullion balances we inherited on the closing of the transactions. The monetization did not flow through the revenue line, but did positively impact the Las Chispas operating segment free cash flow. Excluding the monetization, Las Chispas Q1 free cash flow was $20 million, not too shabby for six weeks. It is important to highlight that absent these one-timers and first quarter specific items, first quarter free cash flow would have been approximately $76 million. Based on our updated forecast pricing of $2,900 and $32 for gold and silver respectively, we expect to generate on average $75 to $100 million of free cash flow per quarter for the rest of 2025. Note three of the interim financial statements in the 10Q provides the details of our preliminary purchase price allocation of Silvercrest. Three important accounting nuances that we wanted to highlight include first, The inventory acquired in the approximately 150,000-ton stockpile at Las Chispas was recorded at fair value, which will lead to higher costs applicable to sales as we monetize the inventory from the stockpile. We have disclosed Las Chispas adjusted CAS and the earnings to give you a sense of the accounting impact. Secondly, with just over a billion dollars allocated to the mineral property and plant property and equipment of Las Chispas, expect higher amortization expense And third, there are nearly $300 million of deferred tax liabilities, which arose as a result of the purchase price accounting. These deferred tax liabilities will unwind as we amortize the mineral property and plant property and equipment balances, which will impact future income tax expense every quarter. It is important to note that none of the above items impact free cash flow, but they will impact net income. Slide 15 tells the story of Coors' rapidly strengthening balance sheet. With the help of Silvercrest's pristine balance sheet, not only did we use their finished goods and bullion balances to help offset an otherwise messy first quarter, we used the closing cash acquired of approximately $100 million to begin building our cash balances, up to $78 million at the end of March, and we repaid another $85 million on our revolving credit facility. which at quarter end stood at only $110 million drawn. We expect that the remaining revolver balance should be repaid by the third quarter of this year, and maybe sooner if prices can remain at these elevated levels. A significant benefit of this debt reduction is that we expect to cut our interest expense in half versus the 2024 level of $51 million. I'll now pass the call back to Mitch.

Thanks, Tom. Before moving to the Q&A, I want to quickly highlight slide 17 that summarizes our top priorities over the remainder of 2025. With several key company catalysts now converging at the same time that prices are reaching much higher levels, we offer investors peer-leading leverage to both silver and gold and provide our shareholders with exposure to a rapidly strengthening profile as 2025 unfolds. We look forward to updating you as we deliver what should be a record year for core mining. With that, let's go ahead and open it up for questions.

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Wayne Lam with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Yeah, thanks. Morning, guys. Hi, Wayne. Maybe just at Rochester, good to see the increase in times through the crushing circuit. Just wondering when you would expect to see the benefit of that roll through the silver recoveries. And then just curious on the direct to pad material, is this quarter representative of the percentage of DTP material that you would expect on a run rate basis? Or would you expect that percentage through the pressure to increase as well over the coming quarters?

Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Wayne. I'll start and then Mick, you can add to my answer. Look, the team out there is doing a great job stepping up to this much higher mining and processing rate, you know, two and a half times increase over prior years, whether it's at the mining, crushing, processing, refining, recoveries, or tracking model. Grades are nicely ahead. We produced what we expected in the first quarter. We've kind of repeatedly proven to ourselves a crusher can do what we need it to do, both from a throughput and a crusher And a crush size standpoint. So we're pleased with how things are going. I think the budget and guidance are built off a 7-8 inch target. I think to the first quarter that was at about .925 for the material that went through all three stages of crushing. So as we see that crush size continue to trend down, we'll see those recoveries continue to go up. And confident that we can you know, hit our full year guidance like we suggested in our release this morning. As far as DTP, that will likely decline as we go forward and as crusher availability continues to improve. But Mick, do you want to go ahead and answer Wayne's question further?

Yeah, and just say going forward year on year that will decline on the DTP profile, but as we reported previously, we expected to put about 6 million tons of DTP through the pipe this year and at 1.5 in Q1, were around about the run rate that we thought we would be at. On the crusher itself, as Mitch said, the recoveries are tracking the model. As we see softer ores, it's great to have the flexibility in the crushing circuit that we didn't have previously so that we can bypass that tertiary part of the crushing circuit and still provide the right tons to the pad. Overall, when I see the crusher working and the material going through all three stages of the crusher, we're delivered about 70% of that material at 5 eighths of an inch. So the overall blend and the target for this year at 7 eighths of an inch is within reach, not quite there yet, but very typical challenges on a startup, on equipment this kind and this type. And we're dealing with all of those things and I'm really happy about where we are today.

Okay, great, thanks. And then maybe just at WARF, just curious on the stronger output this quarter versus the prior quarterly guide being significantly lower for Q1. Just wondering what was driving the stronger performance versus the expectations, and if you might expect to see any bit of an offset to that performance over the coming quarters.

Mick, do you cover WARF?

Yeah, WARF, it's really just, it's all about timing and where we are in the pit at any time. At the moment, we expect to deliver on the guidance at WARF for the full year. We've seen some grade profile tweaks and some tonnage tweaks, but overall, because that's an on-off heat bleach pad type system, we are constrained on throughput.

and so overall then it's all about managing grade and hitting the plan and and warp is very predictable i'm really happy about how it's performing and we expect it to continue performing at that level okay perfect thanks and then maybe this last one on the cost front um you guys had said maybe a bit lower costs on consumables um are you seeing any impact of maybe lower labor costs as well in mexico and then just maybe as an offset to that can you comment on some of the cost pressures you might be seeing at Rochester and Kensington?

Yeah, I'll start and then Tom, feel free to chime in. I think, you know, with Las Chispas only having been part of the company for six weeks, you know, that labor cost differential, you know, is still to be seen. But given the employment increase that we'll see from Las Chispas going forward, you know, that overall labor cost, we should see an overall benefit there. In terms of any real cost pressures, I mean, we've really not seen much at all. There's a good slide in the deck. You might have seen it, Wayne. I think it's slide 16 that just shows quarter over quarter, whether it's looking back 12 months or back over 24 months. You know, the declines have been pretty significant. So we're in really this nice sweet spot here where we're not seeing the cost pressures increase. On the cost side, and we're seeing the margin expansion with the higher prices. In fact, if you look quarter over quarter, our average realized gold price this quarter was 41% higher than a year ago quarter. Silver average realized price was, I think, 36% higher than first quarter of last year. And our costs per ounce were essentially flat, right? So we're seeing that margin expansion big time that Tom alluded to in his comments. But Tom, anything else you want to add?

Labor, again, for the most part, across our asset base, we do annual raises in that first quarter. And so those kind of held in, especially across the US sites, in that 2% to 3%. And we haven't experienced any particularly concerning trends at all around turnover. So that kind of is locked in for the year. And then we're watching diesel and cyanide and power costs. And for the most part, they're trending the right way. Pretty happy with the cost guidance and nice to see us in the lower end of the range through the first quarter.

Okay, perfect. Thanks for taking my questions and looking forward to the improvement through the year.

Yeah, thanks a lot, Wayne.

Appreciate it.

The next question comes from Joseph Rager with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Hey, Mitch and team. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the strong start to the year. Yeah, hi, Joe.

Thanks, Joe.

First thing, on the inventory accounting, how long do you think it's going to take to work through the extra stockpiled or inventory at Las Chispas? And what level do you expect that inventory number on the balance sheet to get back down to? Because traditionally it's been more in the high 70s versus the 220 it is now.

Tom's smiling that he got an accounting question. Tom, you want to take that?

Yeah. So again, the inventory, the big increase in the inventory relates to the stockpile out in front of the process plant at Las Chispas. So it's 150,000 tons, which if you think about it, that's roughly five months production. And so that balance will gradually go down as Nick continues to mine and we'll put new tons on that stockpile at a lower cost, and then we'll deplete the existing stockpile. We'll process all that material. So you'll see that number come down. And for accounting purposes, we've estimated that that will happen over the next year. In terms of materials and supplies, though, I mean, we've added a prudent level of inventory. The team at Las Chispas had done a great job of making sure they had the right amount of spare parts, et cetera, et cetera. And so, you know, you will see a, an increase on the balance sheet as it relates to their materials and supplies, but we're not worried about that whatsoever.

Okay. And is there like a rough targeted number you'd like to see that inventory be at year-end total dollar number value?

You know, I think, you know, we'll have to wait and see in terms of, you know, exactly how the material comes off that stockpile. Um, and, uh, you know, I, I don't think we have a particular target. What we have guided the team down at Les G's Best, who've done a terrific job, the integration is going super well, by the way, um, is to just deliver the budget that the Silvercrest board had approved, uh, uh, back in, in December for the year. So again, no, no real specific target. And again, the, uh, the value that's on that stockpile is again, it's, it's mainly driven. by the accounting requirement to fair value it. So is this, well, it's going to have an impact on our earnings as we deplete. It's not going to have an impact on our free cash flow.

Okay. Fair enough. And then bigger picture question for Mitch. Now that you're in the process of digesting the Silvercrest acquisition, how do you think about M&A going forward? Is the next thing on the list to start reviewing potentially a sale of something, say war for Kensington, or is it to look for more acquisitions or is there, you know, a temporary pause here, you know, for a period of time?

Yeah, I think Tom's words of, was it boringly predictable or predictably boring, you know, either way, that's what we want to do. Yeah. That's what we're going to be the next, at least, you know, for, for the foreseeable future, you know, our investors have waited a long time to see the, the benefits of all this investment that we're now starting to be able to generate and point to and delivering on that is our focus. Of course, we'll always look at things that come across or that we identify as opportunities that fit through our filters of North America and make us better, not necessarily just bigger and all those things, which really makes for a pretty short list. But in the meantime, what we have out in front of us here at the company is pretty spectacular, and we've worked a long time to get to this point. So we look forward on just delivering on that and showing the kind of cash flows here in the coming quarters that we alluded to in our comments.

Okay. That's fair enough. I'll turn it over. Thanks.

Yep. The next question comes from Mike Siderco with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yeah, thanks very much for taking my questions. And I'd like to go back to Rochester, but maybe just to segue from the last question. Could you go into a little bit more detail on how you're thinking about Silvertip? I know you've said accelerate resource growth and potentially invest some more cash into Silvertip. But prices have moved quickly in the last three or six months. Does that change your thinking? And maybe conceptually, what sort of milestone should we be looking for at Silvertip over the next couple of years?

Yeah. Hi, Mike. Thanks for the question. Look, we remain confident in the scale of the district there at Silvertip and that we're on the edges of a very large system. And that's why we tripled the land package there in the first quarter that IFA mentioned. We've been targeting and been, I think, talking over the last few months about sort of a five-year time frame to have Silver Tip in a position to be a go, no-go construction decision. You know, we all want Silver Tip to turn into a cash contributor versus a cash consumer, but we also don't want, you know, don't want to cut any corners. We need to go through the The project stage gates, we need to keep drilling to keep improving our understanding of the deposit, keep building critical mass of the resource, you know, support the study work that we're going to be doing. We'll be kicking off an initial assessment here in the middle part of the year, probably third quarter, and that should be completed later next year. That'll give us some good sort of concrete information to consider next steps, you know, where we go from there. We have kind of built up our organizational capabilities to support the advancement of Silver Tip, whether it's on EFA's exploration team, Mick and the projects team, overall leadership there. So we can devote some time and energy to better understanding what sorts of funding or permitting assistance might exist to potentially enhance the economics or shorten that timetable at Silver Tip. But we're going to take some time and make sure we do it right, go through the project stage gates, keep drilling. And while we do all that, we can continue to generate the free cash flow and do everything that we've got set up in front of us here from our other operations. So, yeah, it's an interesting time to have a large and growing critical minerals project in Canada, for sure. And so we'll start turning our focus a bit more to that than we have been now that we're in a better position to do so. Does that give you what you're looking for, Mike?

Yeah, that's good color. Thanks. And just to be clear, the initial assessment you were talking about, that would be internal only, right? Not a public document?

That's right.

Okay. Okay. And then if we could flip back to Rochester, I just want to make sure that I understand it. I know this has been a topic of conversation. What should we really be watching there in Q2 and beyond in terms of optimizing recoveries in the leach cycle and getting the operation to where you want it to be. Is it total tonnage, crushed tons, the ratio between the two, or is it really getting as much material down to five-eighths? I mean, I know it's a blend of all of the above, but if there's a metric that someone could look at and say, okay, we're on the right track or maybe we're taking a pause here, what would that be?

I think it's crusher run time. just availability. And as we do that, we'll see the other pieces fall into place. So I think that's, for me, the key metric.

Mick, do you? yeah i mean overall in the long run what target is to get to about eight million tons placed on the pad on a quarterly basis and and as you saw we're placing about seven million this this time around and that's that's improving and that balance between dtp and crushed material we of course want to crush as much as we can and but that dtp product is is valuable and we'll continue to deliver that throughout this year probably a little bit more in in through the middle part of the year and less so at the back end. And then just seeing the performance stay on the recovery curve as we see the size fraction come down, which we've seen so far, but we're tracking that. So you should see us continue to improve on that predictability and delivery of lower size fraction tons to the pad. And then a quarter or two quarters later, you're going to see the metal coming from that performance improvement.

Okay, so if we watch the reported 5.1 million tons crush in Q4, 5.5 in Q1, should we be really watching that number? And if that number continues to move higher, that's how you see at a high level, at least, that the crushing circuit is on the right track to deliver as much of that 7 to 8 million tons as possible. Is that a fair way to put it? Exactly.

Yep. If there's one number to watch, Mike, that would be the one.

Okay, very good. Thanks very much for taking my questions. I'll pass it on.

Not at all. Thanks, Mike.

Thank you. Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. Our next question comes from Brian McArthur with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions, and I apologize. I had sort of the same ones that we've sort of asked, but maybe if I can do it differently. First, Tom, on the accounting aspect, I assume at Less Cheap it's what you've done is you've written up the gold and silver inventory to value it like it's $3,000 gold or something and whatever it was, $31 silver. Is that the way I think about it from an accounting basis? And that's basically what you're going to run through the income statement, but obviously the cash has already been consumed. Is that kind of what's going on there when I sort of calculate what the difference is between, you know, to get up to that 218 million tons, there's like, I think, 60 million of gold and whatever it is of silver. Is that the right way to think about it?

Yeah, you got it. So those, all the, most of the tons on that, or all of the tons on that stockpile will flow through our income statement, but we won't make net income from them. That makes sense. You got it. Yeah, we had to market it with a small estimate for, it was great, all these accounting questions. The small estimate for the cost to complete. So again, but again, from a free cash flow perspective, there's no change and just, you know, it has an impact on net income. So we just wanted to highlight that.

Right, and I think you were clear, too, on the deferred taxes. There's nothing in there that you have to catch up on. It's all book accounting, the way things were allocated. Is that right? Is this going to affect the consolidated tax rate but not the cash tax rate?

Exactly, exactly. And so, perversely, it will have a positive impact to our net income. Has that deferred tax liability get smaller when you – when you take a credit off the balance sheet, it hits your earnings. So again, that'll make the tax rate a little wonky and so happy to work through that with anyone separately as you try and estimate out the deferred tax liability reversal in due course.

Okay, and maybe just to put this to bed, I think what we're really after is make sure, like obviously it's been prepays and a lot of other cash things on the balance sheet that have had to be paid. Is it fair to say now pretty well that's all gone and what we see is what we get going forward as far as cash flow? There's no other catch-ups or clean-ups or anything from a cash basis. Is that a fair comment?

That's very fair. Yeah, kind of cleared the decks here in the first quarter. Perfect. What we have left is what you see.

Okay, and maybe just following up on the other question on silver tip, as you said, you talked about it five years, but, you know, the world's changed a lot. You're also presumably going to have most of the debt done by the end of this year. Would it be fair to guess that you'd be more likely to pay a dividend or return capital through a buyback before big investments in silver tip? Would that be kind of the thinking still going forward, assuming we stay at commodity prices where we are today?

Yeah, I think that's fair. You know, obviously don't want to get ahead of ourselves or our board, but I think, you know, five years would be a long time to wait, especially after, you know, our investors have waited a long time already. I think, you know, we obviously we ended the quarter with $78 million of cash and $110 million on the revolver. Those things will will change quite rapidly as we go forward here. And as long as we're continuing to reinvest in the business the way we plan to, you know, at these prices, the free cash flow we anticipate generating, you know, should leave some room to consider, you know, a potential return to our shareholders in the near term rather than waiting, you know, down the road to decide what we're going to do about Silverton.

Great. Thanks very much for those clarifications. Very helpful.

No, thanks for the questions, Brian.

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mitchell Krabs for any closing remarks.

Okay, thanks everybody for taking the time to talk with us today. We look forward to speaking again following the release of our second quarter results in early August. Thanks and have a good day.

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