2/24/2026

speaker
Carrie
Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Grupo Sebest, Bancolombia's fourth quarter 2025 earnings conference call. My name is Carrie, and I will be your operator for today's call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. During the question and answer session, if you have a question, please press star then one on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. Please note that this conference call will include forward-looking statements, including statements related to our future performance, capital position, credit-related expenses, and credit losses. All forward-looking statements, whether made in this conference call and future filings, in press releases or verbally, address matters that involve risks and uncertainty. Consequently, there are factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in such statements. including changes in general economic and business conditions, changes in currency exchange rates and interest rates, introduction of competing products by other companies, lack of acceptance of new products or services by our targeted clients, changes in business strategy, and various other factors that we describe in our reports filed with the SEC. With us today is Mr. Juan Carlos Mora, Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Mauricio Botera-Wolf, Chief Strategy and Financial Officer. Mr. Rodrigo Preto, Chief Risk Officer. Mrs. Catalina Tobon, Investor Relations and Capital Markets Director. And Ms. Laura Clebijo, Chief Economist. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Juan Carlos Mora, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Good morning. and welcome to Grupo CIVEST Q4 conference call. Please turn to slide two. Even with fiscal difficulties and volatile markets caused by trade ties and geopolitical issues, Colombia experienced steady economic growth in 2025, largely driven by consumer spending and government expenditures. Raising public debt, uncertainty about minimum wage changes, potential new taxes, and possible mandatory investments for financial institutions have recently worsened the macroeconomic outlook for 2026, leading to inflationary pressures, higher interest rates, and expected weaker overall economic performance. Last year, new holding structure improved our capital allocation enabling higher dividends, share buybacks, and greater flexibility as shown by BANISMO recent divestment. Furthermore, the agreement to sell BANISMO resulted in a non-cash impairment charge and asset held for sale accounting during the quarter, which affected both quarterly and annual financial result, as will be detailed further. Thus, annual net income totaled 3.8% and ROE reached 9.1%, reflecting the impact of the impairment. However, excluding this one-off accounting effect, Grupo Cires will have delivered 7.3 trillion in net income, significantly exceeding its guidance, equivalent to an ROE of 17.2%. This performance was driven by strong operational results. resilient margins and improved asset quality. Moreover, given the significant progress achieved in our digital businesses, both NEKI and Wampi reached breakeven in the fourth quarter, another key milestone as these businesses complete our value proposal and are key drivers of SEBE's long-term returns. Also, yesterday we announced to the market our proposed dividend to be submitted for shareholders' approval, amounting to 4.3 trillion pesos, equivalent to 4,512 pesos per share to be paid on four installments starting April 1st. Despite one-off effects from Banismo's divestment, the group achieved a 14.6% annual dividend growth exceeding inflation by over 950 basis points and boosting shareholder returns through its new corporate structure. Please proceed to slide three. The market has acknowledged the value generated by our transformation into Group of Cities as evidenced by the strong performance of our shares. This success further strengthens the credibility of our strategic roadmap. From the time the transaction was announced until the end of 2025, the common shares, preferred shares, and ATRs have each shown impressive double-digit gains, 87%, 75%, and 104%, respectively. These increases were mainly driven by major milestones, shareholders' approval of the holding company's creation, the introduction of the share buyback program, and subsequently, When it comes to valuations, our price to book ratios have improved and our PE multiples now indicate increased market confidence and more optimistic outlook on our long-term profitability. Moreover, we are very pleased with the recent announcement of the inclusion of our common shares in the FTSE Large Cap Index, supported by the continued increase in the trading volumes. Please proceed to slide four. Regarding the share buyback program, as of December 31st, approximately 32% of the total authorized amount has been executed, representing around 8.6 million shares, or nearly 1% of our total shares outstanding. Of the reported shares, 53% were preferred shares, 40% were ADRs, and 7% were common shares. Since the program began, we have observed an average appreciation of 37% across all three share types. I would like to emphasize that the program remains active, and its ongoing execution continues to be fully aligned with our strategic capital allocation plan, market conditions, and each share's class liquidity and capacity to absorb volume. I would now like to invite Laura Clavijo, chief economist, to provide an overview of the macroeconomic landscape. Laura?

speaker
Laura Clavijo
Chief Economist

Thank you, Juan Carlos. If you could please turn to slide six. In 2025, the Colombian economy demonstrated moderate resilience with overall growth of 2.6% amid a complex macroenvironment marked by global uncertainty, domestic policy shifts, and structural challenges. During the fourth quarter, real GDP growth of 2.3% underperformed against expectations, reflecting short-term strength in domestic demand but structural weakness in investment and the external balance. Private consumption remains the primary driver of growth, supported by robust household spending, remittance flows, and a surprisingly strong labor market. Demand in sectors such as retail, entertainment, and financial services continues to thrive, even as primary activities such as mining, agriculture, and construction underperformed relative to broader economic activity. Public expenditure also favored economic momentum, increasing at an annual pace of almost 5% during the fourth quarter for an overall expansion of 4.5% during 2025. Public sector spending has come at the expense of a widening fiscal deficit of close to 6.3% of GDP and a primary deficit of 3.4%. The government has adamantly responded with emergency fiscal measures, including tax reforms, debt management operations, and regulatory efforts to support spending in the final leg of the administration and the ongoing electoral campaigns. Inflationary pressures persisted throughout 2025, with the consumer price index missing the central bank's 3% target for a fifth consecutive year. Inflation closed at 5.1%, and expectations rose sharply at the end of the year, proving that a stable monetary policy rate was ineffective. Furthermore, expectations increased even further on the onset of the announcement of a historically high minimum wage of 23.7% for 2026. In response, Banco de la República initiated a hiking cycle by raising its policy rate in 100 basis points during its January meeting. Our updated view incorporates year-end inflation of 6.4% and a monetary policy rate that should rise at least 200 basis points and may undermine growth dynamics. In summary, Colombia's economy is poised for moderate growth in 2026, supported by resilient domestic demand, but remains exposed to inflationary pressure, rising interest rates, and deteriorating fiscal and external balance. Boosting investment, both foreign and local, will be the key to unlocking better economic dynamics and stronger macro fundamentals that may prove challenging amidst political uncertainty. If you could please turn to slide 7. In 2025, the Central American region delivered moderate but solid economic performance with Guatemala and Panama among the fastest-growing economies in the sub-region. According to World Bank estimates, both Guatemala and Panama expanded GDP by approximately 3.8% and 4.1% in 2025, outpacing regional peers. El Salvador's growth was slightly more modest, around 2.8%, reflecting ongoing structural constraints and external vulnerabilities. Guatemala's diversified economic base supported resilient domestic demand, while Panama's performance was underpinned by services, logistics, and trade sectors. El Salvador's pace was constrained by lower productivity and fiscal adjustments, though tourism and remittances provided important offers. Overall, the outlook for 2026 remains constructive for investors, with growth prospects supported by stable consumption, remittance flows, and integration into regional value chains, though careful monitoring of fiscal dynamics and external risks is warranted. Now, please let me turn the presentation to Mauricio, who will present CBIT's 2025 performance.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Thank you, Laura. Please go to slide number 9. Before we discuss our results, I would like to briefly explain the accounting impacts recorded in the fourth quarter given the recently announced agreement to sell 100% of Banismo's shares to Inversiones Cuscatlan Centroamerica S.A. The transaction consists of an all-cash consideration of $1.4 billion, equivalent to a multiple of 17.1 times earnings and 1.2 times book value, triggering a one-time non-cash net impairment charge of 3.4 trillion pesos related to Goodwill. Banismo's operation had to be recognized as assets held for sale, meaning all assets and liabilities were reclassified, creating significant variations on the balance sheet compared to the previous quarter and previous year. Consistently, Banismo's contribution was deducted from the P&L and net impact adjusted through net income from discontinued operations from fiscal year 2024 and 2025. However, to facilitate understanding, the year-over-year variations of the P&L items presented here are calculated based on the actual 2024 results, excluding the reclassification. Also, we provide a pro forma year-over-year variation assuming no reclassification on 2025 figures either. A set of balance sheet and P&L statements for both the fourth quarter and full year reflecting the required reclassifications as well as pro forma versions excluding these effects are available in the press release published yesterday and included in the appendix of this presentation. I just want to emphasize that the accounting impact did not affect the bank's capital ratios or the dividend flows to and from CBES. Now, please proceed to slide number 10. Our loan portfolio declined 8.3% over the year, mainly explained by the accounting impact, absent of which the growth would have been 2.1%. In addition, the 15% appreciation of the Colombian peso in the period reduced the value of our foreign currency portfolios when translated into local currency. Excluding both impacts, the loan book would have grown 7.2% year over year. When broken down by loan category, mortgages continued to lead growth. Consumer lending also regained momentum after two years of contraction, driven by a renewed risk appetite and by next continued expansion in low-value loans. Meanwhile, commercial lending grew at a more moderate pace, though it showed a slight pickup in the second half of the year in Colombia despite ongoing political uncertainty. Now, please proceed to slide 11. When analyzing performance by operation, Bancolombia and El Salvador led loan growth. Banco Agricola delivered the strongest expansion, with commercial lending accelerating sharply, particularly in the construction sector, supported by renewed demand for housing projects. Consumer activity was also positively driven by personal loans and credit cards. BAM in Guatemala and Banismo in Panama applied tighter credit standards, resulting in a more restrained lending dynamic during the year. Now please proceed to slide number 12. Our deposits reported a 5.2% contraction in the year, but expanded 4.5% absent of accounting impacts. If FX impact is removed, deposits growth would have been 10.2%. I would like to highlight the solid performance of savings accounts, which grew 16.1% net of accounting and foreign exchange effects. Deposit growth was very positive across all operations, with particularly strong contributions from Banco Agricola and Bancolombia, which explains the group's robust liquidity position throughout the year.

speaker
Laura

Now, please proceed to slide number 13.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

In terms of our funding mix, we highlight the larger share of side deposits relative to time deposits and other funding sources, which reduces funding costs and enhances structural liquidity. To a certain extent, this shift is the result of the reclassification of Banismo that held a higher share of time deposits and other liabilities relative to other banks of the group, but also given the strong growth on savings accounts across Colombia, El Salvador, and Guatemala, such that this now represents 47% of total deposits on a consolidated basis, compared with 40% a year earlier. This outcome clearly underscores our ability to attract and retain stable low-cost funding, reducing the overall cost of liabilities to 3.8%, a decline of 114 basis points compared to the previous year.

speaker
Laura

Now, please proceed to slide 14.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Net interest income decreased by 5.3% on an annual basis, but recorded a 1% expansion excluding accounting impacts. Such increase is the result of a larger contraction in interest expense relative to interest income during the year, supported by a series of hedging strategies that allowed us to reprice funding more quickly as rates came down. The annual NIM decreased as expected from 6.8% to 6.5%, excluding accounting impacts, given the lower prevailing interest rates compared to the previous year. When broken down by entity, it is worth noting Banco Agricola's consistent NIM expansion due to its well-balanced growth, both in high-yielding loans and low-cost deposits. Please proceed to slide 15. Net free income increased by 4.3% year-over-year, or 10.4% excluding accounting impact. This strong performance was fueled by higher transactional activity in credit and debit cards, mainly supported by a new bank assurance alliance in Colombia. In addition, brokerage payments and collections and trust services continued to perform well, reflecting a well-diversified non-interest revenue mix. When fee-related expenses increased in line with higher activity levels, particularly in CART-related services, we continued to capture operational efficiencies, especially through adjustments in the correspondent banking model. Overall, the income continues to be key for our earnings diversification, and it represented 18.4% of our total net operating income in 2025.

speaker
Laura

Please proceed to slide 16.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Moreover, I would like to highlight the solid progress we are making in scaling our complementary businesses, which play a key role in strengthening our group's competitive advantage by combining the best of traditional banking with the innovation of our digital solutions. Wampy achieved a major milestone by reaching breakeven in 2025, supported by strong growth in clients, transaction volumes, and fee income. This expansion in revenues outpaced operating expenses, enabling the company to reach profitability. On the other hand, Wenya continued advancing steadily, supported by growth in onboarded clients, assets under custody, as well as a sharp increase in transactions that reinforces its compelling value proposition. Finally, regarding NEGI, I'm pleased to share that it reached breakeven in the fourth quarter earlier than expected, driven by strong growth and deeper monetization across its ecosystem, which I briefly discuss next.

speaker
Laura

Please proceed to slide 17.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

NEGI's loan portfolio scaled significantly, increasing 174% over the period to reach a balance of 1.6 trillion, surpassing the goal of doubling the loan portfolio by 2025. As of year end, 700,000 clients held active loans, reflecting an average ticket size of 2.3 million pesos in an average term of 32 months. The 90-day PID loan for 2025 spends at 3.5% and the cost of risk remains contained at 13.1%, aligned with a scalable digital origination model. Deposits show similar momentum, up 58% year-over-year to 7 trillion Colombian pesos in the fourth quarter of 2025, reinforcing NECI's role as a leading digital savings and transactional platform, still with room in its loan-to-deposit ratio to further expand the loan portfolio. On the revenue side, financial income increased 75%, supported by strong portfolio growth in a more balanced mix between low income and investment income, positioning NECI for continued improvement in structural profitability.

speaker
Laura

Please proceed to slide 18.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Moreover, it closed 2025 with 27.4 million users in an activity ratio close to 80%, demonstrating a strong client engagement. Also, monetized users rose 43% to 16.5 million, driven by deeper product adoption across the ecosystem. Regarding fee income, NECI delivered a 53% increase versus the prior year, reaching $175 billion in the fourth quarter of 2025. We diversified growth across cards, withdrawals, and ethics, reducing concentration risk and enhancing resilience. Consistently, RPAC and CTS metrics remain with positive trends, supporting a disciplined path toward profitability as monetization expands in line with customer engagement. Finally, looking ahead to 2025, guidance remains strong with total users expected to grow 5%, loans expanding 50%, deposits increasing 10%, and total income rising 40%, reinforcing its strategic relevance in long-term value creation potential within the group.

speaker
Laura

Please proceed to slide 19.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Net provisions for the year amounted to 4.4 trillion pesos, an almost 19% reduction over the year, 16% excluding accounting impacts on the back of lower expected losses related to consumer and SMEs that offset the growth on corporates, given the deterioration recorded of a few non-sector related groups. The good performance on almost all segments more than compensated for the increase in provisions recorded at the end of the year, given the sudden change in macro variables discussed earlier, which exerts pressure on households and enterprises disposable income. Thus, the annual cost of risk was 1.8%, which absent of the deduction of Banismo's assets, would have been 1.6% in line with our updated guidance.

speaker
Laura

Please proceed to slide 20.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Consistent with the lower expected losses that drove net provision charges down, asset quality strengthened steadily throughout the year across all major indicators. From a passive loan formation standpoint, the value of loans becoming delinquent during the period declined significantly versus historical averages, led primarily by improvements in the consumer portfolio. In line with this trend, both the stage distribution and the non-performing loan ratio improved, reinforcing provision coverage levels.

speaker
Laura

Please proceed to slide 21.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

The operating expenses increased by 1.6% year-over-year or 8.3% excluding the accounting impacts. General expenses increased primarily due to licensing and technology-related costs associated with the group's ongoing business transformation, followed by an uptick in other taxes stemming from the incorporation of Grupo C. Personal expenses increased 2.3% year-over-year or 10% excluding accounting impacts, primarily driven by the annual wage adjustment and higher bonus provisions aligned with the full-year financial results forecast. The cost-to-income ratio reached 49.8% in line with our updated guidance, reflecting a slower pace of income growth relative to expenses, explained by the new reduction as expected. Please turn to slide 22. Net income for the year was 3.8 trillion, which absent of the one-off accounting impact would have reached 7.3 trillion, reflecting the strength of our operation, even outperforming our updated guidance. As a result, consolidated ROE was 9.1%, or 17.2% absent of impacts, primarily pushed by Bancolombia's standalone pro forma return of 24%. Please turn to slide 23. Shareholders' equity fell 8.7% year over year, 1% absent of impacts, explained by a reduction of retained earnings driven by the net impact of the impairment charge discussed above. On the other hand, Bancolombia's stand-alone core equity Tier 1 ratio closed at 12.2%, an increase of 27 basis points over the 2024 year-end pro forma figure, assuming the corporate evolution into Grupo CIDES had already taken place. I would also like to highlight the significantly lower CDT1 deductions recorded during the year, only seven dips compared to nearly 70 bps in 2024, as the goodwill from the Central American banks was no longer required to be deducted. All in all, Bancolombia's standalone total solvency reached 14.4% and Banco Agricola and BAM about 13.5%, all of them well above minimum requirements. These sound capital ratios coupled with a low double leverage of 101% in Grupo CIDES allowed us to propose the 60% billion payout ratio discussed earlier. With this, I will now hand the presentation back to Juan Cabos. Juan.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Juan Cabos. Thank you, Mauricio. Please proceed to slide 24. By 2025, Grupo Cives had originated 370 trillion pesos in loans through its business with purpose strategy, progressing toward the 716 trillion target for 2030. In the latest Dow Jones Sustainability Index evaluation, Grupo Cives achieved a score of 88 points, which is higher than the last year's result. Banco Agricola has been recognized as the organization with a high reputation in El Salvador, while Bancolombia has received equivalent recognition in Colombia for the 11th consecutive year. Please proceed to slide 26. Our 2026 forecast now incorporates major shifts in our macroeconomic expectations. especially regarding inflation and interest rates. It also accounts for the impact of the banismo deconsolidation and increased uncertainty largely due to higher taxes compared to our earlier assumptions. In this context, we anticipate long growth in the range of 7% to 8%, with a net interest margin expected between 6.8% and 7%, reflecting the current higher interest rate environment. The cost of risk is projected to be between 1.6 and 1.8%, while operational efficiency is targeted at approximately 49%. As a result, ROE is expected to be between 18 and 18.5%. Now, please proceed to slide 27 for some final remarks. In conclusion, I wish to emphasize that 2025 represents a favorable year for the group, characterized by an effective implementation of our corporate transformation, the initiation of our share reportage program, and the agreement regarding divanismo divestment. Collectively, these actions demonstrate our continued dedication to generating sustained value for our shareholders. Looking ahead, although fiscal deficit challenges persist, the prevailing high interest rate environment offers potential for marginal improvement, which could offset weaker loan demand and emerging great risks. We are confident that the electoral process will be conducted smoothly, strengthening our positive environment for operations. This concludes our presentation for today. We welcome any questions you may have at this point.

speaker
Carrie
Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys.

speaker
Ernesto

And our first question will come from Tito Labarta with Goldman Sachs.

speaker
Laura

Hi, good morning.

speaker
Neki

Thank you for the call and taking my question. My question, I guess, is on the outlook for asset quality and the cost of risk guidance, right? I mean, I think, you know, short-term things are going well, but inflation remains high, interest rates are high. Juan Carlos, you mentioned there, you know, potential asset quality risk. How are you seeing, you know, asset quality And what do you think the risks are given this continued high inflation, high level of rates, and could that put maybe some pressure on cost of risk or asset quality either throughout the year or into next year?

speaker
Laura

Thank you. Thank you, Tito.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Definitely, the cost of risk is something that we will need to manage during this year. It's a year in which we will have some challenges. And you mentioned some of them, inflation is one of them, and also as a consequence, interest rates. But we believe that we are well prepared to manage that uncertainty that is coming in the economy. So our guidance regarding cost of risk includes those challenges that we have in front of us. So we are very well aware that there will be macroeconomic challenges. But again, we think that in the guidance that we are providing, we are incorporating our capacity to manage those risks. In the upper level, which is 1.8 of cost of risk, we are incorporating some of those risks that we see. But even though those risks, we believe that there are opportunities. The Colombian economy has shown so far that could manage some of those risks. particularly coming from consumption that is fueling that development. So, PITO definitely is something that we are going to watch very closely, and we will continue updating how are we seeing the forecast of the cost of risk, but we are confident that with the tools that we have, the understanding that we have of the economy, we can react fast. to any upcoming risk and adapt our models and our behavior to those risks.

speaker
Neki

Okay. No, that's very helpful. Thank you, Juan Carlos. A second question, if I may, just in terms of capital allocation, I mean, ROE has been doing better than expected. You know, all the underlying banks are fairly well capitalized. You have been executing on your buyback, but, yeah, I think there could potentially be room for more. How do you think, one, either about additional buybacks, you know, once this program is completed? And, two, just, yeah, I think the market, as you highlight, the sale of Banismo has been well received. You still have Banco Agro Mercantil, which is, you know, just relatively underperforming from an ROE perspective. You know, like the charge stage, lower NIM, higher MPLs. How do you think about, you know, just the capital allocation into, you know, Banco Agromecantini, which has been underperforming a bit? You know, could there be more sales here, or do you see room to improve that, and how much could you improve that? Thank you.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Tito, what we achieved with the creation of Grupo Series was a lot of – the ability to manage our capital in a much better way. So now we have much more flexibility and we are aware of the possibilities that we have. So we will continue managing capital to be very efficient in the sense that we will utilize that capital for growth. but also to return to shareholders depending on the situation. Regarding the specific comment about BAM, I want to emphasize that we are committed to continue supporting the operation in Guatemala. We see a very good potential in that operation. It's a country with a good macro economic stability with potential for commercial businesses. And so we are confident that our model will create a positive impact on our operation in Guatemala. So we will continue supporting the operation and we are confident that the numbers that you mentioned will continue improving. double digit ROE, it will take some time. We are aware of that, that the year for the performance of BAM will show its results, fully results in 2027. We are on a transition to have those numbers that we are looking for. But again, we are very confident about how we can develop that franchise in Guatemala. I don't know, Mauricio, if you have any additional comments to Tito's question.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Hi, Tito. I would just add that due to the flexibility we have now with the new corporate structure and with the level of capital and liquidity we're going to have at the holding level, we're gonna be optimizing the capital of the different operations. So we expect to do some, to issue some instruments inside the perimeter of the holding in order to have some flow of capital going from the holding to the operating entities and the operating entities flowing dividend to the holding company. So that's gonna be one way to capitalize, to optimize capital allocation, along with investments we plan to do. We want to capitalize Neki. We're going to capitalize Wompy and Wenya, which are having very good dynamics. And we're also going to be investing in IT projects that you know are making a big difference in our value proposal. So we plan to do all of that and only to wrap up. The buyback program will be there. It's here to stay. We're going to present a three-year buyback program, but we are only going to execute according to market conditions.

speaker
Neki

Okay, that's great. Thank you, Mauricio and Juan Carlos.

speaker
Laura

Thank you, Tito.

speaker
Carrie
Operator

Our next question comes from Yuri Fernandez with JP Morgan.

speaker
Yuri Fernandez

Hello, Juan Carlos, Mauricio, everyone, and congrats on the year. I have just two questions here regarding the guidance and the outlook for 2026. The first one is regarding taxes. We saw some I'm not sure if I should call a one-off, but 150 billion tax headwind in the fourth quarter. So just asking your view, like, should we continue to see this emergency tax into 2026? And what was the tax rate that the guidance was viewed with? Like, are you assuming, like, a higher tax rate? And if yes, what? Just trying to understand, you know, the taxes moving pieces now. And then I have a question regarding the ROE for the year. The 18 to 18 and a half, I know the guidance is fully done without Bonissimo. So I would assume that you are also using the lower equity, right? The equity with lower impairment and equity minority. So just checking what was the equity that you are implying so we can kind of estimate the net income. Because basically the average... equity for 2025 was higher right from the end of period. So just checking here for us to try to estimate the net income growth. Thank you.

speaker
Laura

Thank you, Yuri.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Let me give you some general comments about your two questions, and I then pass Mauricio for comments, for additional comments. Reading taxes at this point in Colombia is very difficult. I mean, you know that at the end of the year, there were some regulations regarding taxes that in February were suspended by the constitutional court. So those taxes that incorporated additional income tax for financial aid institutions is now suspended and it is awaiting for the final decision from the Constitutional Court. So what we did at the end of 2025 was incorporating the information that we had at that moment. So in the fourth quarter, we have around 150 trillion pesos, billion pesos, I'm sorry, in which we are, with the information that we had at that moment, we were, the fourth quarter, there is a provision about additional taxes. Now there is another regulation that is in progress. We don't have the information yet. It has been informal or some messages from the government that will incorporate some equity taxes, and they are saying that probably we'll have tariffs for financial institutions, but we don't have that information yet. it's supposed to come out this week. So, it is difficult to read at this moment how are we going, what are going to be the effective taxes for 2025 in Colombia. With that scenario, what we have for our guidance is an effective tax rate of 28% that we believe reflects the current information that we have. Once we have more information, we will incorporate additional information about how are going to be the effective taxes for 2025. Regarding your second question about ROE, I will pass it to Mauricio. Thank you.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Hi, Judy. Just to be very clear with the message that Juan Carlos just passed, the tax rate with which we projected our guidance in regular operations is The one that he just mentioned is 29. It moves from 28 to 30%. Now, we included extra taxes because of the extra tax rate, because of the decree that was on the table that, as you know, has not been confirmed. But I guess my message here is our guidance of 18 to 18.5 that include extra taxes because of the extra tax rate, which was the information we had at the moment we built the guidance. The new decree, the one on the equity has not been included. So the message here is, it's very unlikely that both of the decrees are accepted regardless of which one is accepted or confirmed. It's important to know that the guidance does include extra provisions for taxes. Now, to your second point around the equity used for the guidance, it is the equity after the impairment. So to do your math, the 18% ROE corresponds to a net income of 7.3 trillion. So it's flat in terms of net income as compared to 2025, but without banismo. Without banismo's equity and without banismo's net income.

speaker
Yuri Fernandez

No, super clear, Maurício and Juan Carlos. So basically, the guidance, I would say, is in between on tax, right? It's very hard, as Juan Carlos mentioned, to have a view, a lot of uncertainty. So you have some of the decrease, not the true decrease. So let's say Abu pays, none of those decreases prevail. There is an upside risk to the guidance on taxes. If the second decree prevails and the first decree also prevails, then there could be a downside risk to the guidance on higher taxes. That's basically the message, right?

speaker
Laura

That is correct, Yuri. That's correct, Yuri. Thank you very much, guys. Thank you. Thank you, Yuri.

speaker
Carrie
Operator

We'll go next to Andre Soto with Santander, Mexico.

speaker
spk13

Good morning, Juan Carlos. Mauricio, thank you for the presentation. My question is, again, regarding guidance. I would like to understand, you know, if you are assuming 11% policy rate and actually, you know, expectations are quickly moving higher than that, will that imply that you will need to do another model update down the road and build additional provisions? And if so, is that a downside risk to your guidance? And also considering, you know, the uncertainties on taxes, it looks like that could be another potential headwind to your ROE in 2026. So, I would like to understand what would be the factors that could balance out in order for you guys to reach this 18.5% ROE. Thank you, Andres.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

The guidance that we're giving to the market incorporates the information that we have at this point. And you mentioned that, of course, interest rates are going up. That's a fact. Already the central bank increased the reference rate 100 basis points, and our view is that that is going to continue. So that implies that interest rates will be higher in the economy, much higher. That, as you know, we are asset sensitive and that is going to have a positive effect on our name. So that is, there are positive effects. The other side of the coin on that comment is that it's increasing the risk So we will there have to balance that higher margin with a higher cost of risk. But we think in that equation, we are able to deliver the guidance that we are providing. So even with those risks and anticipating that behavior, we think that we are able to deliver the guidance that we are providing. So it's a year in which we will need to be following the development of the macro variables and also risk very, very closely. But we are confident that we have the tools to react fast enough to deliver the guidance that we are providing. Mauricio, do you have any additional comments?

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Yes. Andres, taking into account that we have like a natural hedge on volumes and prices. As prices go up because interest rates go up, volumes may go down and that may be upset. So just to take into account that we have simulated some scenarios of interest rates going up to 12%. So that's why we use branches in our guidance, not only in ROE, but also in cost of risk. So, to consider both scenarios. Now, in order to anticipate what could happen with a high interest rate scenario, just wanted to let you know that we have already closed some risk brackets in consumer lending. So we already closed some of the origination risk profiles. And it's also good to take into account that we, at the end of 2025, we anticipated 300,000 provisions, considering the increase in the legal and minimum wage, because we knew when we included that into the models, we knew that that could cause inflation pressures and interest rate increases. So we already have 300,000 of potential deterioration in our consumer portfolio. And also we had, as you know, extra provisions for a specific corporate client at the end of 2025. So if you put those things together, we feel very comfortable. We can meet the target of cost of risk for 2026. Perfect.

speaker
spk13

Thank you. My second question is regarding capital deployment. Your double leverage stands at 101%. What is the level you guys feel comfortable with regarding the capital allocation priorities that you previously mentioned, including providing capital for your new ventures? Can you please quantify how much capital are you planning to put into those subsidiaries?

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Yeah, Andres, we plan to put around $600 billion in NECI, That's pesos, right? Yeah, pesos, 50 billion to both Wenya and Wampi. We are investing a lot in IT organic projects. And according to the instruments I mentioned before, we plan to do at least 2 trillion of 81 from Bancolombia to CIBES, and around $250 million from the Central American operations to CIBES. So that's the overall picture in terms of capital deployment. And I'm sorry, around the question of double leverage, Yes, it's 101. Our limit, according to conversation with risk rating agencies, is 120. So we're using the capital, as I just mentioned, but it's important to know that we have approximately 20 percentage points of extra leverage if we would like to.

speaker
Laura

Perfect. That's very clear. Thank you. Thank you very much, and congratulations on the results. Thank you, Andre.

speaker
Ernesto

We'll go next to Ernesto Gabilonio with Bank of America.

speaker
Ernesto Gabilonio

Thank you. Hi. Good morning, Juan Carlos, Mauricio, and Catalina, and good morning to all your team. Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions. My first question will be on the political and economic outlook. So given the recent salary increase, how do you see the Congress election on March 8th? And can you elaborate on the proposals of the three leading candidates for the next presidential election in May? And my second question is on operating expenses. I believe last time you mentioned OPEX growth should be around inflation plus 200 basis points. So just wanted to know. if that will be the case for this year, and if you are seeing any impact related to the recent salary increase in personal costs. And also, if you can elaborate on how much of the updates will be on a recurring basis, and how much will be related to the technology cost, advertising, all of what you are doing in EKI, WENIA, and WOMPI. Thank you.

speaker
Laura

Thank you, Ernesto.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Let me elaborate a little bit on the political scenario. As you all maybe know, we are two weeks away of congressional elections, and also there are going to be three primaries in the same date. That's the 8th of March. It is difficult to try to predict how the Congress is going to evolve in this composition, but there are some facts that is important to take into account. The five seats that were given on the peace process of 2016 now expire, so those five seats that were given in the government coalition are not going to be there anymore. So there are five seats left and those seats were supporting the government. On the other hand, the composition of the liberal, the several leading parties at this point, there are some forecasts that in the case of the parties that have had a coalition, in this case, opposing to this government, will probably continue having a strong position. But again, at this point, it's very difficult to know. What we know is that probably the Senate will have a composition that is going to be very much balanced and probably with majority of the coalition that is not supporting this government. That we have now. Regarding the propositions of the several candidates, there are, I will just say that there are clear candidates from the left And there is going to be a primary to elect another candidate from the left also. So we will have probably two candidates running on the first round representing the left. There is a coalition in the center, nine candidates, center right, nine candidates. And we will have another strong candidate there. And there is a more far right candidate that is also strong. And the proposals are reflecting what they are the way of thinking. The candidates from the left will continue on the peace process and will continue with a view of much strong government intervention. And the other candidates are more true, more rule of law and a strong position against violence and these processes, and much more friendly to private initiatives. So that's a summary, but after March 8th, we will have a much clearer picture of who are the candidates with more possibilities on the first round. And also we will have the information of what is the composition of the Congress. Regarding your second question, I will pass on to Mauricio to answer that question.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

The way to think about the office growth is what we consider run the business. would grow in line with inflation and what we consider change the business, that's what is going to lead us to grow above inflation, two or three percentages points above inflation. So thinking about a growth of inflation plus two or three would be right. And in terms of the salary increase, we don't have any employees earning minimum wage, but we do have some vendors offering services that are tied to that salary, so we may have an increase in expenses from that side, and that is already included in our guidance.

speaker
Ernesto Gabilonio

Thank you very much Juan Carlos and Mauricio. And any comments on how much of the efforts will be related to technology calls, advertising, and your three initiatives, NECI, 1P, UENIA?

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

Well, the most significant figures would be the figures from Capital that I just mentioned for the digital companies. The breakdown of the general expenses, I would say, you know, the main lines are, of course, IT investments, also things related with fixed assets and everything that involves the fiscal distribution network, but also correspondent banking, the mobile but we can offer you a more explicit breakdown after the call.

speaker
Laura

Perfect. Thank you very much, Mauricio. Thank you, Ernesto.

speaker
Ernesto

Our next question comes from Brian Flores with Citibank.

speaker
Laura

Hi, Tim. Thank you for the opportunity to

speaker
Tim

to ask a question here. My first one is a follow-up on Judy's question on taxes. I just wanted to confirm the number you said for the effective tax rate is the same as last year. What I mean by this is close to 30%. I understood that it was a bit higher. I thought it was around the 35%, 36% for your guidance, right? And then if I can, my second question, just wanted to understand on NECI, because in your consolidated fee income growth of 10% year-over-year, how much of this could you attribute to NECI? I just wanted to know if, obviously, you're providing more details on the standalone operation. You provide guidance now. So I just wanted to understand if at some point we should see a standalone efficiency ratio, too, for NECI. Thank you.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Brian. Let me give you some comments about NECI and then I will pass Mauricio for the taxes question. As you know, NECI, now it's operating under the umbrella of Bancolombia. And the figures of NECI are improving. We mentioned that It already passed the break-even point last quarter, and the numbers are very good. I mean, in terms of loans, it's 1.7 trillion pesos in outstanding loans, and that's around 700,000 clients. Interest rate in the case of NECI is very close to the maximum rate that we can charge. So it's close to 25%. And the cost of funds in the case of NECI is very low. It's very low. So you know that we fund NECI mainly with savings accounts that with a cost of funds very close to zero. So the margin, the financial margin of NECI is very high. So also it's going to know that we announced that we are in the process of separating NECI and we are expecting to have that operation conclude in the third quarter of this year. So you will see NECI as a separate entity. In Grupo CIDES, we expect by the third quarter or maximum for the fourth quarter, so you will have the whole information of NECI as a separate entity. But what we can say is on the numbers that we have under the umbrella of Bancolombia, NECI is performing very well.

speaker
Mauricio Botero-Wolf
Chief Strategy and Financial Officer

the loan book is growing and now we reach profitability Mauricio Brian in terms of taxes is as you just mentioned so the tax rate for 2026 is in line with the one from 2025 plus 650 billion from the extra tax rate decree, which is under the analysis of the courts. So if you combine those, that's when you get to the 35% rate approximately that you just mentioned.

speaker
Ernesto

And our next question will come from Carlos Goberts with HSBC.

speaker
Laura

Yes, hello. Hello, Carlos. Hi.

speaker
Carlos

Yes, I wanted to ask you, first of all, congratulations on the results and on the completion of the, well, the struggles in the festival of Panama. So I wanted to ask you, looking forward, not one, two, but probably five, ten years from now, how do you see the group evolving? Do you think you will concentrate more in Colombia? Do you think you will expand more in Central America, perhaps go back to retail in Canada through electronic means or Nike or something? Do you see yourself more in Venezuela or the Dominican Republic? How do you think the group is going to evolve over the next five or ten years? And again, does that mean that we should expect to continue to invest or we should see more that focuses on shareholder return and therefore to return capital as fast as possible to shareholders.

speaker
Laura

Thanks.

speaker
spk06

Thank you, Carlos.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

We created Group of Series in order, I remind you, with three main goals. One is to have a more efficient way of managing capital. The other is that we could have more flexibility on our corporate evolution and also that we can compliment our financial services. So to answer directly your question, we see ourselves developing as a Latin American financial group with presence in several countries, not necessarily with operations, full banking operations, but leveraging our digital capabilities. So definitely we see ourselves growing, growing in Latin America, and that's why we are investing at this point developing those digital capabilities and Mauricio mentioned that we are having our plans from those operations in order to continue developing those capabilities that allow us to move in the spectrum of payments, also on digital banking, Again, we are also developing capabilities at the corporate investment bank possibility. So we will continue growing, but we need to balance that growth with returning, with giving the returns our shareholders are expecting. And we have declared that we will target an OE around 13, 18%. So with that target, we will continue returning to shareholders what they are expecting in terms of ROE, but we will continue expanding our footprint. As you know, in Colombia, we have a market presence that is important. In Colombia, we will complement our services with other digital operations. And in other countries, we will look for opportunities, even organic or inorganic possibilities in the need of long-term service.

speaker
Ernesto

And we'll go next to Alonso Aramburu with BTG.

speaker
Laura

Yes, hi.

speaker
Alonso

Good morning. Thank you for the call. I wanted to ask about there's a recent announcement from the government regarding a proposal to, I guess, force lending from banks to fund emergency spending. I don't know if this is something already approved. Can you give us some color on this and what would be the impact for Bancolombia? Thank you.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Alonso. That is not something that is approved now. There was a There are some comments coming from the government that they are considering the possibility of mandatory investments for the financial services, but there is not yet an official document or an official issue about that particular tax. As you know, there are discussions about equity tax for legal entities in Colombia, and also they mentioned the possibility of those mandatory investments, but there is not an official document yet about that. So we will expect that to happen this week, to have the official document and decree from the government announcing what they are going to do regarding the taxes that they are planning under this new economic emergency that they declared three weeks ago.

speaker
Alonso

Okay, thank you. And any estimate on what could be the impact if they declare, I don't know if they mentioned some parameters about this forced investment. So any potential estimate you can have on the potential impact of this?

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

It's difficult to know because just to elaborate a little bit on those mandatory investments, the instrument is that they ask the financial institutions to invest in government papers and then they direct those proceeds to specific sectors. But it's very difficult to have an opinion if we don't have what is the amount that they are planning and what is the interest rate that those papers are going to earn, and we don't have that information. So I am not at this point with – I don't have at this point enough information to have a position alone.

speaker
Laura

Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you.

speaker
Carrie
Operator

And this now concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Juan Carlos Mora for closing comments.

speaker
Juan Carlos Mora
Chief Executive Officer

Before closing, I want to highlight the strong results achieved in 2025, which underscores our strategic progress. With this, we invite you to join us for the upcoming first quarter results conference call. We look forward to your participation.

speaker
Laura

We wish you a very good day.

speaker
Carrie
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.

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