Clarivate Plc

Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call

11/8/2022

spk01: Good morning. Thank you for attending today's Clara Vate Q3 2022 earnings release call. My name is Foram and I will be your moderator for today's call. All lines will remain muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telethon keypad. It is now my pleasure to pass the conference over to our host, Mark Donahue, Head of Investor Relations. Mr. Donahue, please proceed.
spk09: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for the Clarity Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. With me today are Jonathan Gere, Chief Executive Officer, Jonathan Collins, Chief Financial Officer, Gordon Sampson, Chief Product Officer, and Steve Mumholm-Thompson, Chief Revenue Officer. All will be available to take your questions at the conclusion of prepared remarks. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and webcast and is copyrighted property of Clarivate. Any rebroadcast of this information in whole or in part without prior written consent of Clarivate is prohibited. An accompanying earnings call presentation is available in the investor relations section of the company's website, clarivate.com. During our call, we may make certain follow-looking statements within the meaning of applicable security laws. Such follow-looking statements involve known and unknown risk. uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results. Performance or achievements of the business or developments in a clarity-based industry that differ materially from the anticipated results, performance achievements, or developments expressed or implied by such follow-up statements. Information about the factors that cause actual results to differ materially from anticipated results or performance can be found in clarity-based filings with the SEC and on the company's website. Our discussion will include non-GAAP measures or adjusted numbers, including organic revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Clarity believes non-GAAP results are useful in order to enhance an understanding of our ongoing operating performance, but they are Supplement 2 and should not be considered an isolation from or as a substitute for GAAP financial measures. Reconciliation of these measures to GAAP measures are available on our earnings release supplemental presentation on our website. After our prepared remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. With that, it's a pleasure to turn the call over to Jonathan. Great.
spk10: Thank you, Mark. It's great to join my first call as CEO of Clarivate. I could not be more excited to be here. Since joining the company in early July, I've spent much of my time traveling around the world, meeting with thousands of my colleagues. The time I've spent with them has reinforced my view of the strengths of our people, the resilience and growth potential of our products, and the power of our customer relationships. There are many great things taking place at Clarivate, but we also have work to do to realize our full potential. While I look forward to covering this in great depth at our investor day in March 2023, I will touch upon some of my initial impressions and areas of focus in the next few minutes. First, I want to start with our third quarter financial highlights. It was a mixed quarter with us with both areas of great strength and pockets that did not perform as we had expected. Our key financial metrics of revenue, EBITDA, and EPS were all up year over year as we continued to grow and expand the business even in these challenging economic times. This growth speaks to the resiliency and criticality of our solutions. Focusing on revenue, we came in at $636 million, an increase of $5 million on an organic basis over the prior year period. This was 4 million below the bottom end of the rates we provided, and I will spend some time focused on this metric. Peeling back these numbers, well over 95% of our business, including our academia and government business, our IT business, and the subscription portion of our life science and healthcare business delivered as expected. In total, organic subscription revenues increased 4.3% in the quarter which is our best quarterly subscription performance this year. We are pleased with the trajectory of these businesses and the early progress we are seeing on sales initiatives we have put in place. While we delivered positive gains in the quarter in the vast majority of our business, our transactional revenues, specifically in life science and healthcare one-time transactions, came in light. This was primarily driven by a low conversion of our real-world data sales pipeline late in the quarter. Jonathan Collins will provide some additional context here, but I would like to share my view on this business. First, our life science and healthcare real-world data is a great business. We have critical assets with strong growth potential. We have seen some quarters with strong performance. For example, the first two quarters this year, our real-world data nearly doubled over the prior year. Similarly, the first half of 2021 experienced similar growth. So when this business performs well, the results are exceptional. But we have also had a couple of weak quarters, including last year's fourth quarter and now this year's third quarter, both of which were down significantly compared to the prior year. As I have dug into our performance closing out Q3, I've come to realize that it is a very difficult business to predict for a few reasons. First, there are a small number of very large deals that can have a material impact on a quarter. So the organic growth number can swing on less than a half dozen deals. Second, there's little we can do to speed up a close of these deals. It is all based on customer needs and the timing of those needs, which can move beyond our control. Additionally, they're often selling to data aggregators who are themselves dependent on end customers' decisions and the timing of those decisions. As a result, we are doing the following. First, we are addressing the structural volatility of this business by investing in new solutions designed to move our real-world data products up the value chain and provide greater predictability. I will cover details of these investments shortly. Second, for the foreseeable future, we will remove many of these larger binary deals from our guidance, which may result in better than expected performance in this area in certain quarters. On our operational highlights, there are six key areas that I would like to expand on, which I'll cover in the next few slides, starting with the leadership transition. I want to thank Jerry for the leadership and support he provided in creating the Clarivate of today. None of us would be here were it not for his leadership and foresight. As he moves into the role of Chair Emeritus, we wish him and Mary Joy all the best in the next chapter of their lives as they focus on their family and philanthropic efforts. Through my travels, I've had the opportunity to meet with thousands of our colleagues. The care and dedication they have to our customers and to the growth of Clarivate is inspirational. Our assets are mission critical to our more than 45,000 global customers, This leads to long-term, strong customer relationships with 90% plus retention rates. I had a chance to visit one of our IT customers a month ago, and hearing of the partnership in their own words was equally inspirational. These types of partnerships lead to a resilient business model and open opportunities for innovation-driven growth. We have work to do that I won't touch on, but our starting foundation is strong. My key priority remains focused on unlocking our growth potential. We will do this by continuing to drive scale internally, unlock efficiencies in investment dollars, and drive a culture of innovation across all areas of clarity. During the third quarter, we announced the divestiture of the Mark Monitor business, which we completed on October the 31st. This business was not a core offering of ours, and we can now allocate investments into our key product offerings with higher growth potential. We used the net proceeds to pay down some of the term loans, which helped to reduce our leverage. Jonathan Collins will speak on this subject in a few minutes. I would now like to share with you a new lens on how I look at the business. On the lower right side of slide eight, I think about our solution sets moving from left to right as first enriched data. This is our starting point and our key right to play in our markets. We aggregate enhanced public and private data to create proprietary enriched data sets. Analytics and insights. This is putting intelligence on top of our data. An example is our brand landscape analyzer, a tool which helps professionals assess the viability of new brands. Analytics and insights are further enhanced by driving workflow solutions. This is where we embed our software solutions into the daily workflow of our customers. For example, our all-med library management solution is a critical tool used by librarians to serve their communities. Finally, we wrap these with expert services including consulting and software implementation services. Our goal is to continually develop new solutions that move us from left to right, creating more value, expanding our playing field, and driving loyalty into our customers. Second on the top right, our regional presence with growth opportunities across all three regions. And finally, and critically, our segments. Starting this quarter, we will be reporting along three distinct segments. There's overlap and value shared between segments, including content, technology, and commercial channels. These segments are the prime way in which I look at our business and will be driving Clarivate going forward. With a second glance, let me share my view on how we are doing. This is an important slide for us, both internally and externally, and will form a key foundation for our investor day in March. And I'd like to draw your attention to a few key takeaways. Today, we deliver approximately $2.6 billion of revenue in a serviceable, addressable market approaching $25 billion. In the past, we have emphasized the total addressable market of more than $100 billion. However, in the near term, I will focus on how we are performing in the markets we serve. Currently, we are underperforming our market opportunities. This is driven by a small number of products. Much of these are from the legacy Thompson Solutions which while strong and often the gold standard, we're underinvested in for years. We are now pivoting and investing behind these and other opportunities. By making focus improvements to product, go to market, and a relentless focus on customer delight, we see a new baseline and clear path to market growth. This will be our main focus of the investor day as we share with you the path both the path and timing to a 6% organic growth baseline and beyond. All future initiatives will align to an expanded strategy based on strong business fundamentals. This expanded strategy is built on five priority pillars that underpin all our organic growth initiatives. As we have discussed previously, our first pillar is the execution of our industry-focused, customer-centric go-to-market model. Our second pillar is focused on bringing different content sets together. As an example, we combined our CopyMark and DARS-IP to create a new solution for performing trademark litigation analysis. Within pillar three, we add insights and predictive analytics on top of our core content. For example, we recently launched a proprietary United Nations SPG module on top of Web of Science. This allows universities to analyze and track their research with their sustainability goals. Moving to pillar four, we enable customers' business processes and decision support with our workflow solutions. For example, Rialto is our industry-leading library marketplace that is critical as libraries build and enhance their content collections. We wrap all the prior four pillars together in pillar five as we serve as a trusted partner by providing value-add services and strategic guidance to help our customers realize their full potential. I would like to share two new investments that also will address the volatility in our live science healthcare transaction revenue. Our real-world data solutions, despite quarterly volatility, are among our fastest-growing products and are positioned in a serviceable market of over $2 billion, growing annually in the low to mid-teens. Our life science customers already trust us to provide high-quality data. However, today we provide this in data fees that our customers must then integrate and analyze themselves. We are now investing in a web-based platform and a set of intuitive self-service analytics to convert our data into insights to drive decisions and actions faster. This new platform will provide the following benefits. First, it will move us up the value chain with our clients. Second, as it is productized, it will provide higher levels of recurring revenue. Third, it will expand our market reach with both existing customers and new logos. And finally, it serves as a scale platform to drive additional use case driven innovation and growth. Second, We have invested in a new farmer co-vigilance platform to create a new enhanced regulatory compliance workflow solution. Our life sciences customers are struggling to manage both rising regulatory compliance mandates and an ever-growing volume of data on potential drug safety events. This new solution will further automate these resource intensive activities. This will reduce costs and drive deeper insights into drug safety by leveraging our scientific content and real-world data. We plan to launch our first two products in the second half of 2023. We believe these two investments alone have the potential to increase our revenue growth rates by well over 100 basis points in the medium term. I look forward to sharing more on these and the other elements of our roadmap to growth at Investor Day. Before I turn it over to Jonathan, I want to reiterate once again how excited I am to be at Clarivate and leading this great company. It starts with our dedicated global team. We go above and beyond every day. I truly believe our future is bright and the best is ahead of us. I will now turn the call over to Jonathan Collins. Thank you, Jonathan.
spk03: Good morning, everyone. Slide 13 is an overview of our 2022 third quarter and year-to-date results compared with the same periods in 2021. Third quarter revenue was $636 million, an increase of $194 million compared to the same period last year, driven primarily by inorganic growth from the ProQuest acquisition, as well as 1.2% organic growth, both of which were partially offset by a substantial foreign exchange translation headwind as the U.S. dollar strengthened significantly against primarily the pound sterling and euro. This brings year-to-date revenue to nearly $2 billion, for an increase of $668 million for growth of just over 50%. The third quarter operating and net loss of $4.4 billion is entirely attributed to the non-cash goodwill impairment charges recorded primarily for the CPA Global and ProQuest acquisitions. The drivers of the impairment were deteriorating macroeconomic conditions, such as inflation and rising interest rates, as well as the recent sustained decline in our share price. Adjusted diluted EPS for Q3, which excludes the impact of the impairment, was $0.20, a $0.04 increase over Q3 of last year, bringing the year-to-date to $0.63, a $0.14 increase over the first nine months of last year. Operating cash flow was $208 million in the quarter, an increase of $164 million over Q3 of 2021, bringing it to $372 million for the first nine months, which is an increase of $66 million over the same period last year. Please turn with me now to page 14 for a closer look at the drivers of the third quarter top and bottom line growth over the same period last year on a consolidated basis. When we refined our expectations for the third quarter in early September, we indicated revenue would likely be in the range of $640 to $650 million as a result of the relative strength of the US dollar and that we expected organic growth of about 3%. As a result of the shortfall in transactional sales within our LS&H business, In the month of September that Jonathan mentioned earlier, organic growth was about 180 bps light of our expectation and about $4 million below the low end of the range. Our recurring business, both subscriptions and reoccurring revenues, came in right in line with expectations at more than 4% and 2% organic growth, respectively. The shortfall was entirely in the transactional and products and services, which declined by more than 9% when we expected them to be flat. When we look at the third quarter top and bottom line growth compared to the same period last year, it was driven by four key factors. First, organic growth of 1.2 percent added $5 million to the top line and $4 million to the bottom line for a profit conversion of more than 75 percent. Second, inorganic growth contributed $220 million to the top line and $68 million to the bottom line for a profit conversion of more than 30 percent on a pre-cost synergy basis. This growth is primarily attributed to the ProQuest acquisition. Third, cost synergies net of certain operating expenses required to achieve them contributed $17 million of incremental profit from carryover savings, giving momentum on the ProQuest cost actions. Finally, the translation impact of subsidiaries denominated in foreign currencies had a substantial impact in the quarter, reducing revenue by $31 million and profit by $8 million. The profit conversion is lower than normal as the translation impact was ameliorated by transaction gain. Page 15 illustrates the consolidating top and bottom line results for the three segments Jonathan outlined earlier for the past seven quarters. This historical information was made available in a separate 8K we filed this morning. The change effectively bifurcates the segment we previously referred to as science into academia and government and life sciences and healthcare. The A&G segment includes the legacy Thompson products, Web of Science, Insights, EndNote, and ScholarOne, as well as the ProQuest acquisition. The LS&H segment now includes the Legacy Thompson product, Cortellus, along with the DRG acquisition. And the intellectual property segment remains essentially unchanged, including the Legacy Thompson product, Derwent, and the CPA global acquisition. On the left of the page, you will note that the LS&H products have led organic growth at about 6%, both last year and so far this year. However, this business is clearly more volatile with double-digit growth in quarters like Q1 of this year, as well as quarters that are essentially flat like this past quarter. This is caused by the lumpiness of the transactional data sales, and we're making the investments to gradually move this business towards a more recurring revenue stream. The IP segment has consistently delivered organic growth around 3%, and AMG, which excludes ProQuest, has grown organically in the 2% to 4% range. While both of these businesses have a level of seasonality on transactional sales, they're much less variable than LS&H, and we expect further stability in A&G's organic growth as the ProQuest business is included in the metric next year. On the right of the page, you will note that A&G, prior to the ProQuest acquisition, delivered the highest profit margins. We do expect that as we realize the cost synergies in 2023, the margins in this segment will improve towards the fall. IP has steadily improved margins over the past two years as the cost synergies from the CPA global acquisition have been achieved. Our smallest segment is LSMH and its margins are reflective of its relative size. We believe this change to our segment reporting will provide greater transparency into our operating results moving forward. Please turn to page 16 to see how the third quarter profit converted to cash flow. Free cash flow was $140 million in the third quarter, an increase of $120 million over last year's third quarter, and $216 million in the first nine months, which was essentially flat compared to the same period in 2021. Adjusted free cash flow, which excludes the impact of one-time costs, was up $100 million in the quarter and the first nine months as the growth in adjusted EBITDA was partially offset by higher interest, taxes, and capital spending, all of which are largely attributed to the ProQuest acquisition. Please move with me now to slide 17 for a look at our revised full-year guidance for this year. As a result of the increasing strength of the U.S. dollar, the divestiture of our mark monitor business that closed last week, and the volatility in our LS&H transactional business, we revised our outlook for the balance of the year. We're lowering the midpoint of our revenue guidance by $100 million, and nearly half of this, about $45 million, is due to foreign exchange. We've assumed the U.S. dollar will strengthen another 5% sequentially against the pound and euro in the fourth quarter. The Mark Monitor's sale lowers revenue by about $15 million as a result of excluding this business in November and December. Lowering the outlook for organic growth rate by about 200 basis points accounts for about $40 million, and about a third of this transpired in the third quarter, and we expect about two-thirds will occur in the fourth quarter. As Jonathan highlighted, nearly all of this variance in the transactional products and services we deliver within our life sciences and healthcare segment. Given the volatility over the past few quarters, we've opted to provide a quite conservative outlook for this area of the business in the fourth quarter. We now expect our organic growth rate to be about 2.5% and a revenue of $2.63 billion at the midpoint of the ranges. Through strong cost discipline, we expect to maintain our profit margin at the low end of the prior guidance range at about 41%, yielding an adjusted EBITDA of approximately $1.75 billion at the midpoint of the range. Adjusted free cash flow is now expected to be $525 million at the midpoint of the range for a conversion of nearly 50%. The $100 million decrease compared to the prior guidance is attributed to the lower profit and slightly higher capital requirements. Adjusted diluted earnings are now expected at $0.80 per share at the midpoint of the range. Please turn with me now to page 18 for the drivers of the expected revenue and profit growth for the full year compared to last year. As with the comparisons provided for the third quarter top and bottom line growth, we expect the full year will be driven by the same four factors. First, organic growth is now expected to deliver approximately $45 million of incremental revenue and about $20 million of added profit for a conversion of about 45%. Second, inorganic growth is expected to contribute an additional $830 million of sales and $250 million of profit at actual exchange rates for a profit conversion of approximately 30% as a result of the ProQuest acquisition on a pre-cost synergy basis. Third, cost synergies associated with the CPA and ProQuest transactions are expected to add $70 million to profit. And finally, as I just noted a moment ago, we've assumed the U.S. dollar continues to strengthen in the fourth quarter causing $120 million headwind to revenue and a $70 million flow-through to profit for a conversion of about 55%. Please turn with me now to page 19 for more detail on how we expect the full-year adjusted EBITDA of nearly $1.75 billion will convert to free cash flow. Our full-year outlook for adjusted free cash flow is now $525 million at the midpoint of the range and represents an increase of $65 million compared to last year. We anticipate the profit growth of approximately $275 million will be partially offset by higher interest to service the debt used to fund the ProQuest acquisition, higher cash taxes on the profit growth, and higher capital requirements as increased capital spending will be partially offset by lower working capital. This outlook contemplates that nearly 50 cents of every dollar of profit will convert to adjusted free cash flow. Please turn with me now to page 20 for a look at how we plan to utilize this cash as well as the proceeds we receive from the mark monitor sales to strengthen our balance sheet. In the upper left quadrant of the page, you can see that through a combination of more than a half a billion dollars of adjusted free cash flow, more than a quarter billion of cash proceeds from the mark monitor sale, and about 100 million of cash on hand, we will pay down about a half a billion dollars of debt between the term loans and the revolver, repurchase 175 million of our stock, integrate the ProQuest acquisition, service our preferred stock with a cash dividend, and satisfy other minimal obligations. In the upper right, you will see that this will leave us with $5 billion of debt at year-end, and we expect to utilize a large portion of next year's free cash flow to continue to pay down debt as we prosecute our plan to reduce our leverage to less than four terms. In the lower left, you will note that during the quarter, we entered into an interest rate swap on about three-quarters of a billion dollars of our floating rate term loan. This action, combined with the anticipated deleveraging in the fourth quarter, will result in a reduction of our floating rate debt from 45% to 25% of our annual coupon. And finally, in the lower right, you will note two important features about our debt stack. First, with the current interest rate projection via the forward curve, where base rates peak at about 5%, our total weighted average cost of debt will peak at about 5.5%, which remains very low by historical standards. And second, we have no debt maturities or mandatory prepayments for the next four years. Please check me out at page 21 for some high-level comments on the major drivers of our top and bottom line trajectory as we approach 2023. In a few months, we plan to provide specific guidance for next year, as well as the timeline for accelerating our organic growth from the current levels to the market growth rates. However, at this point, we want to highlight a few major factors that have developed in the second half of this year, that will have a material impact on our outlook for next year. First, if the dollar remains strong as it is today, we will have a significant top line heading into FX translation that will be most evident in the first half of 2023. Second, the sale of our mark monitor business will also lower our revenue in the first three quarters of next year. It's worth noting that neither of these factors will affect our organic growth. And finally, we do expect organic growth to improve next year as we execute the strategy Jonathan outlined earlier, However, we do not anticipate the dollar impact of the FX and divestiture headwinds will offset the impact of the organic growth, leaving our revenue relatively flat next year. As a result, our profit margin expansion will be relatively modest next year, aided by the completion of the ProQuest cost synergies, leaving EPS relatively flat as well. We do expect our free cash flow conversion to nearly double in 2023 as the one-time cash outflows associated with the CPA equity plan, and the ProQuest integration cost will be behind us. Please turn with me now to page 22 for a reminder of why we believe this is a great business that's positioned to generate value for shareholders, even during times of economic uncertainty. I want to echo Jonathan's enthusiasm for the prospects of our business, and this page helps to highlight a half a dozen reasons for our sanguine outlook. Our three business segments, A&G, LSNH, and IP, are replete with mission-critical products full of enriched data delivering analytics and insights to an expanding range of user personas. We enable our customers' workflows, and we also act as a trusted partner providing value-added services across a broad range of industries around the globe. And these products and services are highly recurring in nature. So far this year, 78% of our revenues are subscription and reoccurring in nature, and collectively have delivered organic growth of 4.5%. Our transactional business has been more variable than we would like over the last few quarters, but the investments we are making in new product innovation within our LSNH business will migrate more of the revenues towards recurring sales, providing additional stability and predictability. Because our products are mission critical, our subscribers have renewed at 92% this year, which includes a headwind from our decision to suspend our operations in Russia. This demonstrates the sheer resilience of our subscription product. These commercial attributes provide a solid foundation to drive substantial operating leverage as evidenced in our profit margins, which are in excess of 40% so far this year. It's important to note that the content, technology, and commercial channels that our three segments share have led to a quarter billion dollars of cost synergies over the course of the past few years as we've integrated the DRG, CPA, and ProQuest acquisitions. This is a major contributor to the strong profit margins we're delivering. The one-time cost to integrate these businesses and deliver these cost synergies have created a significant drag on our free cash flow conversion. However, these are now largely behind us. As I mentioned just a moment ago, we expect our free cash flow conversion to double next year to about half of our adjusted EBITDA. Combining these factors highlight that our business is a scaled information services compounder poised to accelerate organic growth via our refined strategy and deliver outsized returns for our shareholders moving forward. Thank you all for listening in this morning. I'll now turn the call back over to Forum to take your questions. And as a reminder, please limit yourself to one question and then return to the queue for any additional. Forum, please go ahead.
spk01: Absolutely. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If for any reason you would like to remove that question, please press star followed by two. Again, to ask a question, press star one. As a reminder, if you are using a speakerphone, please remember to pick up your handset before asking your question. Our first question comes from the line of Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Manav, your line is now open.
spk05: Thank you. Good morning. I just wanted to touch on, you know, Jonathan, Gary, you pointed out, obviously, you know, your growth versus the market growth and the gaps, and I know you'll give us more color on the invest today. But when you look at your 2023, I guess, implied organic growth, it's improved, but still kind of in that 3% camp for next year. So I was hoping just a little bit more color on how long or how much do you really need to do to be able to go penetrate that white space? It sounds like maybe 2023 won't show that.
spk10: Thanks for the question. So a couple comments to your question. First, we certainly expect and will make progress in organic growth in 2023. And we'll come back with a very precise number at our guidance call at the end of the Q4. I think your second part of your question is really the timing, if you will, to the market rates of that 6% overall. And the way we're thinking about it, and again, I will have much more precise views on the timing of this monop and also, importantly, the past so that you can better test our assumptions there But I think that'll be measured in, I would call it a few years. And a few could be measured in a couple type years. Think of it in terms of that being the timing. But again, let me come back to you, Marta. I bet today there's some more precise timing on this.
spk09: Next question, please.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of Tony Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Tony, your line is now open.
spk00: Thanks so much. So I wanted to sort of go back to September. Seemed like you had some idea that the quarter wasn't going well since you lowered the guide. I know transactional has less visibility, but I guess down nine is sort of a big delta versus flat. So I guess, are you able to monitor the transaction intra quarter or was September really a lot worse than July and August? Just how should we think about 4Q and next year for the transactional business? Like, how do you get that to recover, basically? Thanks.
spk10: Sure. I'll add my comments, and John, you can add it if I missed anything. So, first of all, as I mentioned in my comments, it really came down to really a half dozen very, very large deals. And we certainly, obviously, are... lifetime healthcare sales team led by Tom, very involved. Myself, Steve, Jonathan were monitoring these on a really daily basis, given the size of them. And this really gets to the crux of what I made in my comments and kind of my discovery here being my first quarter on the roll. These are just very hard to predict. And what's interesting is we didn't lose these to competition. The decisions were delayed, they were postponed. And I've come to realize just the nature of the product is you have these small number of very large deals that you can feel very good about, and they just don't convert. And it's something that is obviously relatively new to me, Tony, in terms of my experience, and it's a key lesson for us here. So as we think about next year, I think, as I mentioned, and Don also mentioned in his remarks, Our view on this is first, we need to structurally change it. And the investments which we're making, which I'm incredibly excited about, which we actually okayed and green-lighted before the end of the quarter, I'm feeling very good about what that will do to really smooth out both by adding more value into our clients, so moving up the value chain, as I mentioned, but also really smoothing out the predictability of this important revenue chain. And then the second piece, as both Jonathan and I mentioned, is given the volatility here, I think the prudent thing to do is to take some of these large deals out of our guidance and out of our view. And the result of that might be, we may have a couple quarters where we come in surprised at the upside. When that happens, we will call it out so you'll have the visibility and know what happened. But that's how we're thinking about it. Jonathan, anything you'd like to add? That's great. Thanks, Tony.
spk01: Thank you. Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Nicholas with William Blair. Andrew, your line is now open.
spk08: Hi, good morning. I appreciate you taking my question. I wanted to ask on profit margins for next year. I think on slide 21 in your prepared remarks, you talked about modest expansion, primarily on ProQuest cost energy. So I just wanted to clarify, is the intention or the messaging here that you're planning to reinvest the organic kind of margin expansion that you'd expect from this business back into LS&H or other growth initiatives? Is that how we should think about next year?
spk03: Yeah, Andrew, it's Jonathan Collins. You know, as we think about next year, the big things we wanted to highlight were the top line, just to be clear that the FX headwind we're going to see in the divestiture of Mark Monitor will offset even the improved organic growth on a dollar basis. To your point, when we think about the profit margins, we do believe we'll have some margin expansion. As Jonathan said, when we're out in February with our year-end results, we will give more specifics around that. With organic growth in the range that it has been, the margin expansion as a result of that is not going to be significant, but we will have the ProQuest cost synergies next year that we'll complete, which will help to bolster the margin. So those are the big pieces that we wanted to point to and highlight for next year as we think about the bottom line.
spk09: Thanks. Next question, please.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of Shlomo Rosenbaum with CECL. Shlomo, your line is now open.
spk06: Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I'm trying to understand a little bit more what is the impact of removing the large deals of real-world data from your guidance? In other words, when I'm looking at 23 over 22 and you're talking about, you know, looking kind of flattish, How much revenue are you excluding from big deals that you would normally exclude that could be potential upside? Because I'm trying to get a baseline of what kind of organic growth we're looking at, because it seems like you're introducing this kind of conservatism, but it's hard for us to really get a beat on how much revenue are we talking about.
spk10: Maybe I'll get a thematic and then have Don to be specific. Again, the 23, we will, of course, Shalom will come back with more details at the end of this Q4 call. But thematically, and a couple of things, and Jonathan will comment on this, we did want to highlight just the impact of some of the the big impacts, Mark Monitor, FX, et cetera, and the total revenue numbers. When we think about this, again, I'll call out, as I mentioned in my earlier comments, well over 95% of our business performed as expected. And so the vast majority of this business is quite predictable, as you would expect, as everyone on this call would expect for a business of this nature. We do have this one aspect of our business which can have great quarters and not so great quarters. And so when we look forward next year, what I would expect, and maybe I'll have Jonathan comment on it, and keep in mind we have not finalized our plans for next year, but I would expect kind of no heroics whatsoever in a real-world data business plan for next year. But Jonathan, do you want to add to that?
spk03: Yeah, I think that characterization is fair. And Shlomo, since we haven't given a specific number for next year, I'm not going to be able to answer it with a lot of detail. But I would point to our guide for the fourth quarter. What we've effectively done here with saying that Q4 is going to be flat organically is heavily discounted all these deals. So that's a pretty significant impact in the fourth quarter. That's typically the largest quarter of these deals. So as Jonathan said, as we hopefully get some of those closed during the quarter, that would provide some upside. But that's how we've approached the fourth quarter. More details will come on 2023 when we guide to that early next year.
spk09: Next question, please.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of George Tong with Goldman Sachs. George, your line is now open.
spk11: Hi, thanks. I wanted to stick with the life science and healthcare transaction revenue performance. You mentioned that you didn't lose any of the deals. The decisions were delayed and postponed. So can you talk a little bit more about the dynamics of what happened there? Are these truly delays? And were they due to macro factors or other factors that caused um the the deals not to go through and then separately what are you doing to improve the predictability in terms of translating these revenues into recurring revenue streams are you looking to restructure contracts and how you go to market any color there will be helpful thanks sure yeah yeah let me comment on all those and it's it's yeah as i went through my first quarter close i've learned a lot on this on this part of the business
spk10: So, 1st, let me kind of describe the nature of some of these larger deals and I should mention we have large deals. We also have a tail of smaller deals and on the real world data. So it's not all, but what happened is you have these series of larger ones, basically not close and a couple of takeaways, which I'll share with you in terms of my, my learning. So, so 1st, we, in some case, we're going direct to the end user, but in many cases, particularly with these larger ones. We're selling to other data aggregators who themselves are bringing in other data sets, other content that they may have or others may have to provide a more comprehensive solution for the ultimate end user. And so they're complex deals. And the key thing that I mentioned is it's very reliant on the timing and specific need of the end customer, which is a moving target. That's number one. The second thing you asked about any economic pressures, answer is no. I don't believe any of these deals were materially impacted based upon what we're seeing in the slowdown of the economy. There may be a little more governance, if you will, from boards and whatnot of smaller companies if they scrutinize this. But when they need the data, they do. And if they postpone decisions, then they just postpone the needs for those decisions. So, George, I did not see really any macroeconomic pressure on this or really materially in any part of our business. It continues to be a very resilient business as it historically has shown. Now, to the second part of your question, what are we doing about it, I pulled back those two examples I showed in my prepared remarks. We're building out a platform for real-world data, and this platform is the future for what we're doing with this data. There will always be a need for data. Data in its pure form by certain end users and certain customers based upon their use models and requirements and aggregating with other information, and that's great. But what we're pivoting to now is this creation of a real-world data platform, which then creates specific use case-based analytics. And it has a couple benefits from it. First, it's easier to consume our data, number one. Second, they can combine our data with proprietary information that the end user may have to really create some enhanced solutions, number two. And the third element, which I know everyone on this call cares about, it becomes much more predictable. These will be recurring type revenues. It will move us up the value chain. And to me, George, it's what I've typically seen in my history that what great information businesses do is they start with core information and they lay on top of analytics insights to create much more higher value, more predictable and sticky content. That's our plan to continue to migrate and improve this business. And again, I'll comment that the underlying business is great. The data is must-have. The issue we have right now with the real-world data is it's just very unpredictable. The investments we're making and productizing much of it will help address those issues. Great. Next question, please. Thank you.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of Seth Weber with Wells Fargo. Seth, your line is now open.
spk12: Hey, good morning, guys. I'm wondering if you could just comment on the pricing environment, what you've seen here in the back half of the year, and maybe just what you're expecting for 2023. I think the company had previously spoken to something like a mid-single-digit growth from pricing. Can you talk about whether that's still the right way to think about it, and just any kind of early view to conversations for next year? Thanks.
spk03: Yes, it's Jonathan Collins. On the pricing front, that's one area that continues to perform as we'd expected. It's been a bright spot for us in the first nine months. It is one of the key contributors towards the strong subscription growth that's been improving as we've moved through the year. So those conversations have gone well. We've talked quite a bit about the fact that this is really about an exchange of incremental value. So we've made meaningful investments in the products over the course of the the past couple of years, and now we're able to be able to recognize an economic benefit associated with that. As we look to next year, we're cognizant of the overall environment. We'll be very thoughtful and careful as we move forward in all of these product categories, but we think this will continue to be an area that helps to bolster the strength of our recurring business, which, as Jonathan highlighted earlier, has been a real bright spot for us so far this year.
spk12: Okay, guys, thank you. Thanks, Jeff. Next question, please.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of Peter Christensen with Citi. Peter, your line is now open.
spk02: Thank you. Good morning. Thanks for the question. I want to go back to the transactional revenue retooling. I appreciate the comments there, but I was wondering, have you investigated whether there's parts of that business, particularly the data sales, where you may have the opportunity to repackage the product, maybe introduce it into subscription, maybe at a new tier level or something of that nature. How should we think about product repackaging as a potential means of smoothing out some of the volatility from the transactional business? Thank you.
spk10: Yeah, let me dive in with that. I think it's a great, great opportunity. And I'll highlight a couple of things. First thing, The end market in this area is a high-growth market. It's a market that grows, you know, on average 7% to 10%. And so it's the right neighborhood to be in. It's the right area to be playing in. And we've had, as I mentioned in my remarks, some quarters of incredible performance in that real-world data. First half of this year was great. First half of last year was also great. But it's the unpredictability, which is, you know, painful. I mean, it pains me frankly that we had 95% of our business perform incredibly Great, and as expected, we're having this volatility caused by this one piece. So to address it, we're doing exactly as you suggested. The productization of our real-world data, and I call attention to those two investments that we called out, which we do believe will have a significant impact on our total company organic growth rate once this rolled out, will do just as you suggest. They're taking the platform, packaging it, creating more use case-based products, insight-based products, which has the benefit of A, being more predictable, B, being stickier, and C, being, frankly, easier to use. And we, frankly, control the channel with the end user quite a bit better with that. So we do think it'll help with that significantly. There will always be some ongoing demand for the data in its native form. And that's just the nature of the business and the nature of the consumption. But by productizing and adding the insight and analytics on top of the data to create these new products, it will smooth out the revenue and the growth in the Lifetime Healthcare Division significantly. Thanks. We'll go to the next question, please. Thank you.
spk01: Our next question comes from the line of Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Stephanie, your line is now open.
spk07: Hi. This is Hans Hoffman on for Stephanie. Thanks for taking my question. Could you just, you know, talk a little bit about, you know, the progress integration, kind of a little more specifically, kind of, you know, what you're seeing within the Web of Science product and, you know, how that's, you know, performing relative to your expectations. And then just, you know, sort of on divestitures now, kind of, you know, mark monitor, you know, have you guys sort of pruned all non-core assets or is there, you know, maybe more left to go there? Thanks.
spk10: Okay, sure. So maybe I'll make a comment and have Jonathan Collins come in and add some digital color So first on the ProQuest acquisition integration, it's gone exceptionally well. It's always hard. And one thing that calms you, when I joined this company a few months ago, the one thing that really struck me, really struck me was just the pace of change that has taken place, the pace of growth, if you will, during my acquisitions the last 30 months, and as I've mentioned on previous calls, all during COVID. Now, I think the success of the integration of ProQuest really is a success story within Clarivate, and a lot of credit goes to the teams both on the ProQuest side and the legacy non-ProQuest Clarivate side who made that happen. But the ProQuest acquisition has performed well, and we're very pleased with it both in terms of the top line as well in terms of the efficiencies that we pulled out of it. And the combination of a web of science from the legacy Thompson business with progress is such a natural combination. The content makes sense together, the products make sense together in terms of how we're going to market. Now, I do think, and I mentioned in one of my remarks, is when I look at the path to grow from our current growth rate to just market at 6%, there are a few legacy Thompson products in particular that we need to improve in, and Web of Science is one of those. We announced previously some investments we've made there and improving our journal impact factor as an example. And we are now leaning in with investments behind Web of Science and other products to help make improvements in those areas. But overall, we feel very good about the progress. And Jonathan, do you want to add comments on that or talk about other approving?
spk03: Yeah. And as it relates
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