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spk05: Good afternoon and welcome to the Chipotle Mexican Grill third quarter results conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by 0. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ashish Kohli, Global Head of IR. Please go ahead.
spk19: Hello everyone and welcome to our third quarter 2019 earnings call. By now, you should have access to our earnings press release. If not, it may be found on our investor relations website at .Chipotle.com. I will begin by reminding you that certain statements and projections made in this presentation about our future business and financial results constitute forward-looking statements, including projections about comparable restaurant sales growth, new store openings, our effective tax rate, and expected G&A expenses. These statements are based on management's current business and market expectations, and our actual results could differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements. Please see the risk factors contained in our 2018 annual report on Form 10-K and in our subsequent Form 10-Qs for a discussion of risks that may cause our actual results to vary from these forward-looking statements. Our discussion today will include non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation to GAAP measures can be found via the link included on the presentation page within the investor relations section of our website. We will start today's call with prepared remarks from Brian Nickell, our Chief Executive Officer, and Jack Hartung, our Chief Financial Officer, after which we will take your questions. Our entire executive leadership team is available during the Q&A session. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Brian.
spk02: Thanks, Ashish, and good afternoon, everyone. We're pleased with our third quarter financial performance, which reflects further progress on our key strategic initiatives that are providing guests with a great experience in positioning the business to deliver above-industry growth for many years to come. In fact, this marks the seventh consecutive quarter of accelerating comparable sales, which highlights that running great restaurants with a purpose of cultivating a better world is a compelling proposition. For the quarter, we reported 11% comparable restaurant sales growth that included nearly .5% transaction growth, restaurant-level margins of 20.8%, which is 210 basis points higher than last year, earnings per share adjusted for unusual items of $3.82, representing 77% -over-year growth, and digital sales growth of 88% -over-year, representing .3% of sales. I'm often asked, what's next? I believe we still have a lot of opportunity in executing our five key strategies, which are, number one, making the brand more visible and loved, number two, running successful restaurants with a strong culture that provides great food, hospitality, and throughput, number three, leveraging our digital make line to grow sales and expand access, number four, engaging with our customers by launching a new loyalty program, and number five, creating a stage-gate process for innovations. Let me give you an update on each of these, starting with our stage-gate process, which is designed to test an item in a few markets on three key areas, delighting our customers, deriving a financial benefit, and of course, ensuring a seamless integration into our current operations. This test tends to be predictive of what happens nationally and helps increase the likelihood of success. I'm pleased to announce that carne asada is the latest item behind Lifestyle Bowls and our rewards program to be successfully validated through this process, and all three are meeting or exceeding our expectations. Carne asada is a limited-time offering that is easy to execute operationally and has a unique flavor profile. It's a tender cut of steak seasoned with fresh squeezed lime and finished with hand-chopped cilantro and a blend of signature spices. No wonder it's receiving terrific customer feedback. As great as carne asada tastes, its success is amplified by all elements of our strategy coming together in unison, specifically digital providing more frictionless access, marketing enhancing awareness and emphasizing the deliciousness of carne asada, operations delighting our guests with great hospitality and throughput, and our supply chain ensuring we have the highest quality ingredients that meet our food with integrity standards. I'm so proud of the collective efforts of our teams in rolling out this new premium steak. Beyond carne asada, we are also testing queso blanco, salads and quesadillas. These items are in various markets where we are gaining valuable feedback. As I have stated previously, we are not going to roll out new menu items at the sacrifice of throughput, nor will we add complexity to our restaurants by over-emphasizing new menu choices. We will update you on our progress of all potential new menu items as they move through our Stage-Gate process. Now, let's talk about our marketing efforts, which have and will continue to be an important enable of our growth. In fact, you saw this with the carne asada launch as we leveraged our digital capabilities as well as a national TV campaign by teaming up with film director David Gelb. These spots are a continuation of our Behind the Foil campaign that launched earlier this year and highlight real Chipotle team members and provide an inside look at the real, fresh food and skillful preparation that happens in Chipotle kitchens every day. These efforts are designed to increase transactions and grow sales by driving culture, driving a difference, and ultimately driving a purchase. In addition, we effectively utilize social media and ran several strategic promotions during the quarter to make the Chipotle brand more visible while helping expand access. Going back to the question of what's next, we launched Chipotle Rewards in March and are just now beginning to leverage that platform. We currently have 7 million enrolled members and have only scratched the surface on database marketing. We are encouraged by early signs of transaction increases across all frequency bands, and going forward we'll double down on our ability to leverage this data to incent behaviors. We expect this lever to become a bigger drive over time as we gain more experience gathering customer insight while continuing to expand our digital platform. Reducing friction and providing more convenient access for our guests has been critical to increasing our digital system penetration over the past couple years. This quarter, digital sales grew 88% year over year to $257 million and represented .3% of sales during the seasonally slower summer quarter for digital. And we're knocking on the door of digital becoming a billion dollar business. Consistent with past quarters, delivery remained a key driver of our digital growth given enhanced capabilities on our app and website, as well as our expanded availability from more than 97% of our restaurants. Importantly, digital remains highly incremental and we continue to see residual lift in delivery sales that last beyond any promotion. Additionally, I'm pleased to announce that we have finished installing our digital make lines in all relevant restaurants, and this was completed slightly ahead of schedule and makes the system more efficient for our guests, team members, and delivery partners, while driving more sales and loyalty for Chipotle. Now that we have the digital make lines installed, we are focused on ensuring that execution for this large and growing business matches that of the traditional front line. This brings me to the evergreen topic of operational excellence. The reality is that all the growth initiatives I just mentioned are being supported by the terrific job our operations team is doing in providing a great guest experience. And we know cultivating a better world includes investing in our people. And we believe that's the right approach in creating an environment where our employees can thrive professionally as well as personally and be in a position to win not only today, but also in the future. Enhanced training and development, industry-leading employee benefits, including the recent debt-free degrees program in addition to our newly expanded tuition reimbursement program, and a new crew bonus that was paid out to more than 2,600 employees last quarter are just a few examples of how we continue to invest in our people to cultivate a better restaurant culture. The result is our employees putting their best foot forward and remaining focused on our core fundamentals. This is leading to us attracting and retaining the right talent and having higher team stability, which is allowing them to spend more time together and deliver on two important benefits. One, delicious food, consistently being prepared and served every time, something our guests have definitely noticed. And number two, we're seeing a steady improvement in throughput aided by training, focus, and providing our teams with an -to-use dashboard that provides greater visibility on performance. I want to recognize our team for their efforts and hard work in delivering another outstanding quarter. I believe we are still in the early stages of our journey, and we need to stay focused on our priorities and executing flawlessly to support our growth while providing our customers with the experience they expect from Chipotle. Thank you to all our employees for all that you do. We have a unique brand, and I love the passion and determination that I see during my restaurant visits as our crew members constantly strive to be better today than they were yesterday. With that, here's Jack to walk you through
spk17: the financials. Thanks, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone. We delivered outstanding financial results in the third quarter as comps and margins continue to expand, further highlighting the strength of our economic model. Connecting with guests through culturally relevant marketing focused on Chipotle's great taste and real ingredients while providing more convenient access is helping lead to greater overall demand. Sales were $1.4 billion in the quarter, an increase of .6% from last year. Com sales grew 11% in the quarter, which includes a 10 basis point reduction as a result of deferred revenue from our rewards program. This deferral is lower than previous quarters due to a combination of an increase in free entree redemptions as guests earned enough points and an adjustment in breakage rate assumptions for chips and guacamole. Now that we have more history moving forward, we expect quarterly deferrals to range between 20 and 40 basis points based on various factors, including the pace of signups and promotional activity. Restaurant level margins of .8% expanded 210 basis points over last year, and earnings per share adjusted for unusual items was $3.82, a 77% year over year growth. The third quarter had unusual expenses related to our transformation as well as legal reserves that negatively impacted our earnings per share by about 35 cents, leading to gap earnings per share of $3.47. Our comp of 11% was driven by an acceleration in transactions as nearly .5% of the comp came from greater guest visits. The higher average check includes a price impact of about 2% and a mixed contribution of roughly .5% driven predominantly by digital orders, which have a higher average check. Looking to the fourth quarter, factoring in the strong sales we have seen thus far in October as well as the tougher comparison from last year, we expect Q4 comps to be in the high single digit range. This will result in our 2019 full year comp guidance being at the top end of our high single digit range. We open 25 new restaurants in the quarter, bringing our total opening for the year to 60. And based on the early success of Chipotle Lane, we shifted our real estate strategy to seek more sites that can accommodate a Chipotle Lane. As a result of the more than 80 restaurants currently under construction, about half of them will have a Chipotle Lane, which will result in a total of about 60 Chipotle Lanes by the end of 2019. Given the longer construction timeline associated with Chipotle Lanes, some of these new openings are likely to shift from Q4 into early 2020. So expect our total openings for 2019 to fall at or slightly below the low end of our 2019 range of 140 to 155 openings. For 2020, we anticipate opening between 150 and 165 new restaurants with more than half including a Chipotle Lane. We expect these openings will be better balanced throughout the year with around 60 openings in the first half of the year versus only 35 openings through June of this year. Food costs for the quarter were 33.2 percent, a decrease of 20 basis points from last year due primarily to a menu price increase that was partially offset by higher costs of several ingredients. On a sequential basis, avocado pricing moderated as we expected. This was the result of sourcing more supply from Peru, which reduced our reliance on Mexico. For Q4, we expect ongoing moderation of avocado pricing as a result of increasing supply in the back half of the quarter. But we believe this will be largely offset by the higher cost of carne asada, resulting in cost of sales remaining in the low to mid 33 percent range. Labor costs for the quarter were 26.6 percent, a decrease of 60 basis points from last year. This decrease was driven primarily by sales leverage, partially offset by labor inflation, which continues to be in the 4 percent to 5 percent range. It also includes a 20 basis point additional investment related to our restaurant level performance incentives, including the crew bonus Brian mentioned earlier. We expect Q4 labor costs to be in the high 26 percent range given extra initial labor expenses associated with a significant number of new restaurants being open in this quarter, as well as lower seasonal sales in the fourth quarter. Other operating costs for the quarter were 12.8 percent, a decrease of 90 basis points from Q3 of last year due to lower marketing and promo costs, as well as sales leverage. Marketing promo costs were 2 percent in the quarter, a decrease of about 50 basis points compared to Q3 of last year, as we decided to shift some of our marketing investment to Q4 to support carne asada and other promotions. As a result, we expect our marketing investment to be at or slightly above 4 percent in Q4, which will result in the full year investment remaining right around 3 percent of sales. G&A for the quarter was approximately $115 million on a cap basis or $105 million on a non cap basis, excluding about $7.5 million for settlements of several legal matters and $2.5 million related to transformation expenses. G&A also includes $72 million in underlying G&A expenses, $25 million related to non-cash stock compensation, $5 million related to higher bonus accruals from our strong performance and payroll taxes on stock option exercises, and $3 million related to other expenses, including our all manager conference, which will be held in March of next year. Underlying G&A was a little lower than expected as we continue to finish rounding out our organizational structure. We're expecting to fill open positions in Q4 and therefore believe our underlying G&A support will get to around $74 to $75 million in Q4. Also, if we assume our current financial trends continue, stock compensation, including performance adjustments, along with the higher bonus expenses, should be right around $25 million. Lastly, we're expecting to recognize between $2 and $3 million of expenses in Q4 related to our upcoming all manager conference, and we expect the total expense to be right around $16 million, most of which will hit in Q1 of next year. Our effective tax rate for Q3 was .9% on a cap basis and .3% on a non-cap basis. Both these rates are lower, are below our full year guidance range due to the recognition of excess tax benefits on stock-based compensation during the quarter. For Q4, we expect underlying effective tax rate to be in the 26% to 29% range, though it may vary based on discrete items as well as any stock option exercises. Our balance sheet remains strong with cash and investments totaling $844 million as of September 30th. We repurchase $39 million of our stock at an average share price of $783 during the quarter. In closing, we're pleased with our Q3 results as our strategic growth initiatives continue to sustain strong sales momentum, which is a key driver of our economic model. We remain bullish about the future, and we believe we still have plenty of runway ahead. I also want to thank all of our restaurant team members for their contribution and their passion as they remain Chipotle's most valuable asset as we work together to cultivate a better world. With that, we're happy to take your questions.
spk05: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speaker phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Katherine Fogarty with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk11: Great. Thank you. I'm just trying to get a handle around the new unit guidance. So do you guys expect additions to new units to go now at the lower end of the 140 to 155? And some of those are getting pushed into next year. Does the new unit guidance then implicitly state that you guys are slowing down the pace of new restaurant ads? I'm just trying to get a handle on what are the puts and takes between unit growth here coupled with the very strong comp momentum in the quarter. Thank you.
spk02: Yeah. Thanks, Katie. So, no, the plan is actually I think the guidance that we shared is we're going to be accelerating new units as we move into 2020. And I think what we just wanted to share with people is a greater blend of that will now include Chipotle Lane, which we've accelerated the composition of Chipotle Lanes in our new unit kind of growth trajectory going forward. So the good news is with 11 percent comp and seven and a half percent transactions and really strong margins, we're now going to be able to push on how we continue to expand our new units going forward. So this is really just one of these temporary things, whereas we take advantage of an opportunity with Chipotle Lane, which really I think is a terrific outcome because it will drive our digital results as well as drive the total business, which hopefully, as we've seen today, will result in even better returns going forward as we build out the new units. So no plan to slow down. If anything, our guidance was intended to inform people were going to be increasing. And we also wanted to share with folks that we're going to have a greater mix now Chipotle.
spk11: Can you help us also just remind us on the AUVs for restaurants with Chipotle Lanes versus those without how we should think about how that blend might progress?
spk02: Yeah, I don't think we're disclosing exactly what the AUVs are on this, but here's what is I think we can give you some interesting facts on it, which is our digital business is roughly 50 percent bigger. And the driver of that additional growth is our order ahead business, which, as you know, has got the best margin associated with our business going forward. So we love the composition of the sales and we love the economics associated with new units, whether they have Chipotle Lanes or not. But we're very positive on which Chipotle Lanes brings to our new unit program and why we're raising guidance for next year.
spk13: Great. Thank you.
spk05: The next question will be from David Tarantino with Baird. Please go ahead.
spk16: Hi, good afternoon and congrats on another great quarter. Jack, I was wondering if you could maybe clarify what you meant around the Q4 guidance. I think you mentioned that October so far has been strong and you're expecting maybe that to ease as you cycle tougher comparisons coming up. So could you maybe just elaborate on what you're seeing in October so we have the right context for the rest of the quarter? And then, Brian, you mentioned that you're seeing some progress on throughput in the restaurants. I was just wondering if you could contextualize what that progress has been so far and how you see that playing out in 2020.
spk17: Thanks. Yeah, David on comp. You know, we saw comps accelerate in September when we initially rolled out Carniostata, which is around September 12th or so. And then we started media around September 22nd. So we saw sales accelerate at the end of the quarter and then we saw those higher sales bubble continue into October. The guidance that we're giving for the fourth quarter, though, takes into account the strong comps as we start the quarter, but also that our strongest comp month last year was December. So we're going up against a tougher comparison in December. That's when we had the delivery bowl and those were very, very successful. The other thing I want to mention is we only have enough supply for Carniostata to last us for part of the quarter. We think we'll probably run out around the end of November, maybe into early December. And so we're being a little cautious with what happens once we run out of Carniostata. But the momentum to start the quarter is great, but we got a tougher challenge as we move through the quarter.
spk02: And then to your second question, David, on throughput, the thing that I think is really exciting to see is as each quarter has gone by with the focus on this, we continue to see every region making progress on their throughput goals. So we're not all the way to where we have targeted, but we are making great progress and our throughput is better than it was last quarter. And it's definitely better than it was two quarters ago. So the operational team is very focused. Scott has the guys dialed in on this and our throughput is continuing to improve quarter to quarter, month to month. So I'm very optimistic about what that's going to do for the business going forward. Thank
spk05: you. The next question will come from Sarah Senator with Bernstein. Please go ahead.
spk10: Question about margins, if I could, which is just about the fact that it's been a little bit volatile this year, but in the end, very good margin expansion and maybe for the full year, you know, EBIT margin, you know, on a recurring basis, maybe as much as high 200, 300 basis points, something in that range. But I guess that implies a very high flow through margin, even on a 10 percent comp. So could you just deconstruct that a little bit, you know, especially because you have a traffic driven comp, there's not a lot of price in there. Is that digital mix? Are there cost savings that are coming through? And, you know, is it still the case that when we think about, you know, potential return to peak volumes, we should think about restaurant level margins that are maybe below what they would have been at previous years. Are you at peak or are you finding opportunities again between throughput, you know, order head is sort of structurally offset, you know, whatever the headwinds may have been.
spk17: Yes, sir. The way I would think about margins is I think most of the leverage is from flow through. So we do get a higher, you know, a very attractive flow through when we have we have higher sales, especially when they're transaction driven like this. We have some headwinds, you know, in there that that, you know, we have to overcome. Like we do have labor inflation. That's four to five percent. That's about 100 basis point headwind avocados to get better in the quarter. So we had bigger headwinds from avocados and Q2 than Q3 and then moving into Q4. We've got a little bit of a challenge that carne asada is more expensive. A cut of meat, it's a higher quality premium cut of steak. So, you know, that puts a little bit of pressure on our food cost. But I would say that from a overall margin standpoint, we're pretty much right on track. You know, we talked about at two point one million dollar volume, we should generate a margin of about twenty one percent. And we're right about there in terms of as you move from from two point one to two to two to three up to if we get back to our peak volumes of two point five million, we're still confident that we'll be right in that same kind of margin range of like a twenty five percent. So we think the flow through so far is pretty much right on track.
spk10: Thank
spk05: you. The next question comes from Nicole Miller of Piper Jaffrey. Please go ahead.
spk13: Thank you. Good afternoon. I wanted to understand what might be the tipping point on the acquisition of customer data. I believe you said seven million loyalty members. So right now, the comp you're producing, I would imagine, is not doing much yet with that data. So maybe you could talk about what you're doing with the data, but the power of what it can be, what it can do now that you have a seven million base. And is that enough of a base to produce results?
spk02: Yeah, thanks, Nicole. The obviously we're delighted we've got seven million used out in the rewards program. We anticipate that's going to continue to grow. And as I mentioned in the past, we are already starting some experimentation with the various cohorts. And the good news is when we have done some of these experiments, we've seen meaningful changes in people's frequency and their engagement levels with the brand. So I think this is something that ongoing, you know, as you roll into 2020, it's going to start being a contributor to our sales growth, because we'll have a meaningful database with meaningful numbers of users. And I think we're learning really quickly and figuring out what really does result in behavior changes that reward people and at the same time rewards the business with incremental transactions and incremental sales. So I'm very optimistic about what this can do for us. The database marketing is showing signs of being a really meaningful growth lever going forward.
spk13: Thank you. And just a follow up in last question, Chipotle is clearly getting stronger every day. So when you think about the development acceleration for next year, is there anything in there for international growth? And if not, when and how do you leverage that international opportunity?
spk02: Yeah, so the reality is exactly what you said, which is the health of the business and the operational performance gives us confidence to accelerate new units next year. And then you compound that with adding to the mix a new growth lever called Chipotle, which is a driver of digital sales and highly profitable sales. We're really excited about what our growth opportunity is from a new unit standpoint in the United States. So very excited about that. At the same time, you know, we're continuing to work on our business in Canada, which they have made tremendous progress to date. And, you know, if they continue to deliver the financial performance that they're delivering, which is now getting close to what we're seeing in the US, obviously, that'll be a place down the road that we will look to accelerate new units as well. We're still probably in the earlier innings in Europe because we're still learning there on what we can do with our Chipotle business. But again, the team there is making great progress as well. But still some work to be done there on both the model and how we continue to introduce Chipotle into new markets. But I just want to emphasize there is so much opportunity in the US with the performance that we're getting out of our business, as well as, frankly, the types of restaurants we can build going forward. The combination of NCAPS and now NCAPS with Chipotle lanes as well as the inline unit and then the freestanding restaurants that we've done to date. So we're very optimistic about where we can go with our unit growth in the United States. And then obviously down the road, we'll figure out how we pivot outside the US.
spk13: Thank
spk05: you. The next question will be from David Palmer of Evercore. Please go ahead.
spk07: Thanks. Good evening. Question on labor. I think your labor hours per unit went up more like high single digits this quarter versus mid single digits in the first half of the year. You can tell me if I'm right on that. But if it did ramp up, why? And more broadly, even beyond this quarter, how do you view that leverage point going forward? Is that second make line, for example, fully staffed and ready to go? And should we see similar levels of labor leverage or is there more to be had or even less because you're not up to where you need to be? Thanks.
spk17: Yeah, David, I would say the labor leverage hit exactly where it should be. I'm not sure how you're doing your calculation. You know, we had additional transactions of 7.5 percent. We grow our labor hours at a lesser percent than sales, quite a bit lesser percent. So when you say high single digits, that's not what we actually added. We would have added something quite a bit less than 7.5 percent in terms of the hours. And if you break down the labor leverage, we had labor leverage of about 60 basis points in the quarter. And that's despite the fact that we had about 100 basis points of inflation challenge that we had to deal with. So we really leveraged the labor line by about 160 basis points. And that's really right on target. Now, going forward with digital, we do think there's an opportunity with digital for us to get even more efficient. We're in the early innings there. You know, Chipotle Lane, we've only got 20 Chipotle Lane restaurants right now, but we're going to have 60 by the end of the year. And we'll learn more about how we staff the Chipotle Lanes and how we can really get as much of the efficiency that we know is possible out of moving more of these sales towards that second make line. So, so far we're really pleased with where labor is, but we do think that there's additional efficiencies as the second make line grows.
spk07: I guess my second point was really about in that second make line, are those staffed and are you effectively at a low capacity utilization on that second make line currently? And therefore that incremental margin is going to be outstanding, perhaps even better than the first line? Or is that something that you're not where you need to be in terms of staffing when that mix gets up to where some of your better digital make line stores are staffed? Thanks.
spk17: Yeah, David, I hear, listen, I get your question. It's a good question. In our very busiest, you know, digital restaurants, those things are fully staffed and I think there's additional leverage to be had. There are areas of the country and there are individual stores where the digital business is not at that same 18%. You know, we do have challenges in making sure we've got the right staffing throughout the day and every single day. And so there are opportunities for us to, you know, to staff those restaurants so that the business will build. But I will tell you in terms of the leverage that you're getting at with the restaurants that are already at 18, 20, 25% digital, those restaurants are staffed. And as we add more sales to the second make line, you're going to see greater sales leverage in those in those stores.
spk05: Great. Thank you. The next question will be from John Glass of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thanks very much. Just on digital sales, I understand there's some seasonality, but I was still surprised to see sequentially about the same percentage of sales as digital. So maybe what gives you confidence that you aren't hitting some sort of ceiling in that when the consumer doesn't want to transact more than they are in digital channels? And can you talk specifically about how deliveries perform this quarter relative to prior quarters?
spk02: Yeah, sure. So what we've seen is the seasonality was more around the delivery aspect of the business in our digital business because we continue to see growth in our order ahead business. And so what we've also seen as we've come out of kind of the summer months where the seasonality was is that strength in September continued on with the order ahead business and then consistent with what we've seen in the past, the seasonality played out in the delivery side of the business. So, you know, we're definitely confident that we are far from the ceiling. And then we've got other indications where when we've added additional access like the Chipotle, you get well beyond 20 percent. So, you know, that's what gives us confidence that we're far from, you know, the ceiling on
spk08: this.
spk02: Okay, that's
spk08: helpful. And then just on Karni's thought, is this was this intended to be an LTO or what? Why are you running out of product and is it just temporary or is it you're just going to pulse this in and out? I thought it was more like, you know, you were going to try attempting to build sort of permanent new sales items, not not LTOs.
spk02: Yeah, this was intended to be a seasonal offering where we would bring it in and out. You know, there are other items like Casablanca where assuming it is successful, the stage gate process, that'll be more permanent. But yeah, this one initially was intended to be more of a product to present some news. And, you know, we may use it again, depending on how the whole experience plays out. But, you know, the early feedback we've seen from our customers and our crew members is they definitely would like us to, you know, do this again. So, you know, we'll figure out exactly the right pacing and sequencing and whether or not it's something we want to have permanently in the business or if we continue to use it more as like a seasonal item. Got it. Okay. Thank you.
spk14: Yeah.
spk05: The next question comes from Jake Bartlett of SunTrust. Please go ahead.
spk14: Great. Thanks for taking the question. You know, I just want to ask a follow up on the Karni Asada. Yeah. You know, my kind of check, or just even my experience in the stores was that the Karni Asada was selling significantly more than the regular stake. And so I assume that that was driving a decent amount of check. So within that, the context of that, of those statements, can you talk about how October has been impacted by the Karni Asada and maybe what we could expect to kind of fall off with the Karni Asada's removal?
spk02: Yeah, sure. So, you know, we have gotten great response to the Karni Asada initiative, you know, and we're really excited to see that the stage gate process was predictive of what we've seen nationally. So we're really delighted about that. We're seeing it drive both check and transactions, which is also another thing we're very excited about. And, you know, what we're seeing is, you know, it's sourcing new users as well as having people that have been users of the Chipotle business to try a new occasion. So we're seeing frequency compression and we're seeing new users come in. What we'll obviously want to continue to understand, which we've got some understanding on, is what happens to all those new users that came in now that they've experienced the Chipotle business? And, you know, historically, you know, Chipotle has been very sticky beyond just one product. It's the whole value proposition that gets people excited about Chipotle. The idea of food with integrity, the idea of customization, the idea of speed, and then obviously putting that all together at a, you know, a really reasonable price is something that's very sticky for the Chipotle business. So we think this is much bigger than just, you know, the product. It's more about introducing people to the Chipotle experience ongoing.
spk14: Got it. And I don't know if Jack, whether you want to just share what it's kind of done to how much it's been helping the October sales in mix. But also just in, you know, building on that question, you know, if it's sounds like it's successful driving check and driving traffic and kind of hitting everything you wanted to, why not keep it around or do it more permanently? Is it a matter of the throughput or is it a matter of the supply being a little more difficult? What would be the reason why not to keep on offering it?
spk02: Yeah, so look, the main driver is we were not willing to compromise on our food with integrity principles on the supply for this program. And so going into it, we knew the supply available would take us through November to early December. And, you know, something we're going to work on going forward, given the response we've seen is, OK, how do we work on the supply of steak in that particular cut to be consistent with our food integrity principles to give us the flexibility to do it beyond just the seasonal program? But, you know, I don't think we can answer your specific question that you're looking for on exactly how is it playing out in the product mix and the comp. Obviously, it's playing a positive role. Got it. That's where I would leave it. OK,
spk05: I appreciate it. Sure. The next question is from Sharon Zach via with William Blair. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, good afternoon. I wanted to follow up on the Chipotle and as well on the carne asada. So on Chipotle, could you, Jack, give us any idea on kind of what the incremental cost is when you add the Chipotle to locations and maybe what the unit economics are that we should think about for 2020 associated with those new openings? And then on carne asada, any quantification around what it did to cogs either in the September quarter or what we should expect in the fourth quarter?
spk17: Yes, Sharon, on the investment, the investment is about an extra seventy five thousand dollars to add the Chipotle. That would be for like an NCAP building. It's the same seventy five thousand on a free standard, but a free standard just cost more than an NCAP. So our emphasis so far has been on getting the vast majority of our of our sites should be on the NCAP. We're trying to get as many NCAPs with each Chipotle as possible. That's why we've been able to pretty quickly pivot so that we can have more than half of our portfolio. So now we'll have the Chipotle. So it's a relatively modest investment. Too early to say on the sales what the difference is between Chipotle and non Chipotle. Sharon, we've got 20 of these. They're spread throughout the country. I'll tell you, they're opening up nicely. We're very pleased with the results. I just wouldn't want to put a number on whether it's performing at or above from a sales standpoint. But the fact that it's 50 percent above on digital is a very strong starting point. We know that when you can offer Chipotle with less friction, meaning it's easier to order, it's easy to stop in and pick up Chipotle without even getting out of your car. That tends to cause our customers to want to get Chipotle even more often. So our optimism, even though it's very early, is very strong. And the economics, with even a modest increase in sales at that kind of an incremental investment, is going to be very attractive.
spk01: And then on Carde Asada, if you could help quantify the impact on your COGS for the third and fourth quarters?
spk17: Yeah, it's going to be about, it's very small in the third quarter, Sharon, because it was only in for a few weeks. But it's going to be the ballpark of 50 basis points. And so, you know, that's why we mentioned in our guidance that our food cost in Q4 is going to stay about the same, maybe a tick or two higher. Even though avocados are going to cost less in the fourth quarter, that's going to be offset by Carde Asada. And we're guessing right now, again, we're trying to predict what the rest of the quarter is going to look like and when we'll run out. But it looks like it's probably going to be right around a 50 basis point impact in the quarter.
spk01: That's helpful. Thank you.
spk05: The next question will be from Jeffrey Bernstein of Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk03: Great. Thank you very much. Two questions. Just one following up on the menu innovation. Brian, it sounds like the Carde Asada a success. I'm wondering how you literally would define success in terms of maybe what mix you've achieved thus far or what you think is the target level. And maybe any color on the quesadilla salad and queso. You talked about what potential hurdles there would be to to overcome in the stage gate process before we might see any or all of those and then had one follow up.
spk02: Yeah, look on on Carney Asada. I mean, what we did in this, you know, the stage gate process was we wanted to make sure we had, you know, a product that consumers wanted. We wanted to make sure we had a product that our operators could execute. And then obviously we want to make sure it made sense financially. And the way we derive that financial benefit is through check and transactions. The good news is Carney Asada has done terrific on the traffic driving as well as the check driving. And then our operators to their credit have done a great job executing and the feedback we're getting from consumers, both new users and existing consumers, is they love the product. So by all accounts, you know, we're delighted with what Carney Asada is doing for the business. And, you know, as you fast forward to other initiatives, you know, our intention is we want to derive all those types of benefits when we're launching a product. So queso blanco, same expectations, you know, needs to be something our crews can execute with excellence, consistent with our food with integrity principles. It's got to be something the consumer is going to say they love it and they want to try it again. And then obviously it's got to play a role in the financial model so that it's continuing to move triplet forward. And that's the reason why we test these things. And, you know, some will play a bigger role in traffic driving than others. And, you know, that's why you've got to have a pipeline of different products to play a different role in the business. So really excited about what the pipeline looks like and very delighted really about Carney Asada going through this whole process and then everybody executing with excellence. That's how you end up with a successful initiative.
spk03: And can you just offer color maybe Jack on the marketing stand? I think you said four percent in the fourth quarter, which would lead the full year at three percent. I'm just wondering how you measure the return on that and whether we should think about 2020 being more in the four percent range or whether there's a reason why you'd prefer to keep it at that lower three percent level?
spk17: No, I mean, Jeff, we have no plans to do that. You know, that could change as the year unfolds. But right now we think three percent about the right, you know, level right now. We think we're getting a great return. You know, the marketing team, every single campaign, they look at what's happening in terms of transaction, what the return is. And so far we've been getting a great return on our dollar. So right now we think three percent is the right level. If we should change that in the future, we'll communicate that. Thank you.
spk05: Next question will be from John Ivano with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
spk12: Great. Thank you. I was hoping to get an update on some of the supply chain initiatives that we've been talking about in 2019. If there's an update in terms of how much money was saved in the third quarter, if there's an outlook for the fourth quarter and what the visibility is for some of the supply chain work on fiscal 20 to start to contribute more meaningfully to margins overall.
spk17: Yeah, John, you know, we saved another few million dollars during the quarter, but it was offset by other things, including some of the summer carne asada pressure that we saw in the last three weeks of the month. But listen, the team's been doing a lot of great work and we think that we'll see more savings in 2020 too early to predict what those are going to be. I mean, a lot of these things will take time because you're talking about long term relationship with suppliers. But I expect we'll be able to talk next year about even more savings from the from the efforts of the supply chain team. Thank
spk05: you. The next question is from Andy Barish with Jeffries. Please go ahead.
spk06: Yeah, wondering on kind of looking out, obviously, the second half margin progress, which you thought wasn't quite going to be as strong as the first half may may act otherwise. But I wonder if you look out to 20 and kind of give us a sense of the puts and takes. I assume pricing is going to remain around 2 percent. Any any early thoughts on kind of the protein basket just, you know, as we try to gauge, you know, some of the margin levers for for next year as as we sit here today?
spk17: Yeah, Andy, we're not seeing anything out of the ordinary right now. It's too early to get a, you know, a price, a precise prediction. But it looks like beef generally to the extent that we can get the supply of the food with integrity cuts that Brian mentioned. Looks like that should be pretty stable. We don't see anything out of the ordinary in chicken. You know, we we see what's happening with pork supplies throughout the world. Our supplies are separate from from that. And so we haven't seen any impact there. So right now we're kind of crossing our fingers and hope that everything continues to look stable. We're also hoping for a benign or maybe even a positive benefit from avocados next year is going to be the alternate year where we should see a more plentiful harvest. And so right now, you know, knock on wood, cross fingers, all that kind of stuff. It looks like a pretty stable cost of good sales environment for next year.
spk06: And do you anticipate menu price kind of staying in this two ish area?
spk17: You know, we're studying that right now, Andy. You know, if we did anything, it definitely would be in that, you know, kind of two percent range, you know, but but no decision has been made.
spk05: Thank you. The next question is from Andrew Charles with Cowan and Company. Please go ahead.
spk15: Great. Thanks, guys. On Chipotle lanes, what percent of the existing twenty five hundred non Chipotle locations have the capacity or the ability to add Chipotle lane versus the amount that a structure enable and just also which cares about your appetite to retrofit these locations as you go through twenty twenty and beyond?
spk02: Yeah, sure. So, you know, they're on our current state. There really aren't that many options out there for us to retrofit into the Chipotle lane only because we don't have that many end caps. Historically, you know, Chipotle really was an in line unit execution. So we're just limited with the real estate that we have. And then, you know, you've got to have the end cap in the right location in order to do a retrofit. With that said, where the opportunity exists, we've done one. And not surprising, we saw a positive result given for what Jack said earlier, when you give people more access with less friction, the order ahead business continues to take steps forward. So limited opportunity to retrofit, but lots of opportunity going forward as we build new restaurants.
spk15: That's helpful. And I know you're reluctant to give numbers and details on Chipotle lane. But, you know, when you talk about year two cash on cash returns for a new store of around 40 percent, is it right to think that Chipotle is higher than that, just given this is the winning prototype for future development?
spk17: I mean, it's early, but yeah, we would expect Chipotle lanes are going to be a higher return than the average portfolio. Thanks, guys.
spk05: The next question will be from Gregory Frankfurt with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk04: Maybe just going back on to Andrew's question, in terms of the operating model for Chipotle lanes going forward, I guess right now you can only order ahead as you pull up to a Chipotle lane. What's the likelihood that you shift this model to more of a traditional drive-through operating structure at some point down the line? And I guess what's going to prevent you from making that shift at some point? Thanks.
spk02: Well, nothing would prevent us from making the shift. We just don't believe it's the right shift. So, you know, what we've seen is giving people the access through ordering ahead so that they don't have to get out of their car is a nice unlock for the Chipotle business so that we don't have to provide the additional complexity of running, you know, a traditional drive-through. And frankly, I think this is the future of how people will want to interact with, you know, restaurant companies because this is arguably faster than any other way possible to get your food. You know, you order ahead and you don't have to get out of your car. And, you know, our model is already fast. Now, we've made it faster because you don't even have to get out of your car and come into the restaurant to grab your food and go. So we don't see any reason to make that pivot going forward.
spk04: God, can you maybe talk about the experience so far in terms of balancing consumers' kind of timing when they show up at the restaurant with kind of when the food is ready and if they show up early, how you've managed through that and kind of how you would expect to manage through that as you go forward. Thank you very much.
spk02: Sure. So, you know, you have with our smart pickup times, you do select a time for when your food is going to be ready and then you show up with it. You know, if you show up early, you know, we usually have people just pull forward and tell them they can come into the restaurant at their time or there are times where we will bring the food out to them where they pull forward. The good news is what we've seen is, you know, after the restaurant opens and, you know, two or three weeks in, people get into a pretty good rhythm where they show up on time. And, you know, once they realize this is how the Chipotle works, you know, we've gotten really great consumer acceptance and the right type of behavior going forward. So that's not been a problem to date. And, you know, it's really just a matter of people adopting the new approach to how you get your food in your car.
spk04: A helpful perspective. Thank you.
spk05: Yeah. The next question comes from Peter Sala with BTIG. Please go ahead.
spk09: Great. Thanks. You know, with 7 million loyalty members now, can you talk a little bit about the composition of the customer? Are they new users? Are they lapsed customers? And just maybe a little bit more detail. Are these loyalty customers, are they spending more? Are they coming in more frequently? Any details around that would be helpful.
spk02: Thanks. Yeah, of course. So this is a question I love to answer. You know, because the thing that's been great about the program to date is it's definitely got bigger representation of new and light slash medium users. And what we're seeing is when we do communicate with them with certain incentives, we see behavior changes that are very positive. And so we're seeing all the things you would want to see in a rewards program from the standpoint of, you know, the composition of those that are in the rewards program and then the behaviors associated with those that are within the program. So, you know, a lot of new light and medium users and then we're seeing really nice behavior associated with all those various cohorts.
spk09: Great. Thank you very much.
spk05: Next question will be from Chris O'Call with Stiefel. Please go ahead.
spk18: Yeah, thanks. Brian, given the supply of carne asada was going to run out late November, what are the plans to continue driving usage from guests that came in for the product? I mean, I'm just wondering if we should expect a new product news before the end of the year and then I had a follow up.
spk02: Yeah, our, you know, our plan is those that come in with carne asada, you know, they get a great chipotle experience that is going to result in them wanting to come back even when carne asada is not on the menu. And, you know, we're obviously focused on continuing to drive that message throughout the whole quarter. So you probably have already seen it on television. You know, we are running ads that both talk about Chipotle as the brand and the total restaurant company as well as driving carne asada. So and what we've seen is the response has been positive to both messages. So people are very much in tune with the idea of food with integrity, real culinary, real ingredients, cooking done right in front of them, as well as some new product menu news around carne asada. You know, and the good news is Chris and the marketing team, they've got a strong plan to finish the year that goes well beyond just products.
spk18: Okay, that's fair. And then Brian, would you talk about how the company determine the appropriate number of unit openings for 2020 and what you would need to see to accelerate the number of openings?
spk02: Yeah, look, the good news is there are plenty of sites and the economics would support going faster and doing more. What we've wanted to really make sure is we've got the people capability in place. And I think we're seeing more and more confidence as our stability has gone up. And as we've opened new restaurants, they continue to open really well. So, you know, we're going to continue to build a really strong pipeline, which we have for next year. And, you know, if the opportunity presents itself to go a little faster, obviously we will. But I think I've been pretty consistent with this one, which is the key for us to continue to have great unit growth is to have great unit economics. And I think that's what we're demonstrating is tremendous unit economics. So I'm not surprising. As the unit economics continue to improve, there's more and more sites that are available for us. And then now we've just added another lever called the Chipotle Lane, which I think is going to open even more sites for us in the future. So, you know, we've been very purposeful to be, I think, very measured in how we go about ramping up our new unit development. But I think there is plenty of opportunity for us to grow from where we are today and what we probably will do in 2020. Great. Thanks.
spk05: And our last question today will come from John Tower with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
spk20: Taking the question, just going back to the digital piece of the business with digital and specifically order ahead mix moving higher as a percentage of your sales. Does this potentially open up more opportunities on the menu over time? I'm thinking specifically about your quesadilla and how at least when you're testing now requires about a 30 second cook time with new kitchen equipment. So, you know, in a traditional store that might gum up throughput. But if you're doing Chipotle Lanes where you've got a greater mix of order ahead, obviously that seems to tie in better in that type of a store. So does it potentially open up more opportunities for your menu?
spk02: Look, I think the thing that's great about the digital business and the digital make line is it does present the opportunity for us to look at opportunities that historically we may not have been able to look at. Because I think you can use that make line in various ways, whether it's fulfilling directly digital orders or helping alleviate the front line. So, you know, it's definitely something we're continuing to contemplate because it just presents a tremendous opportunity for us. You know, we've got now additional capacity with really great economics associated with that additional capacity. We'd be foolish not to be thinking about how we can drive. Why can't we drive that harder? And that's what the team's focused on is how do we drive that harder? Because we like the results every time that business grows. So, you know, and I wouldn't just have it be capped with the idea of just products. I think there's other ways to drive people into that digital business and then ultimately leverage that digital make line.
spk05: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Brian Nichol for any closing remarks.
spk02: Okay, thank you. And thanks for all the questions and thanks for joining us today. Obviously, where I started this conversation is I'm tremendously proud of the Chipotle team, all of our team members in the field. You don't deliver, you know, seven and a half percent transaction growth and an 11 percent comp unless you've got an organization that is all rolling together. And I think the culture is tremendously strong, both in the support centers and in the restaurants. And I think what we've demonstrated with carne asada is we also now have a muscle where we can do new product innovation as well as driving the digital system. And I'm also really delighted about the unlock that I think Chipotle is going to present for us from our new unit opportunities going forward. So a lot of growth opportunities in front of Chipotle, a tremendous quarter. I think that the team delivered most recently and couldn't be prouder of where we are. But I'm also really excited about where we're going. So thank you for joining us and we'll talk soon. Take care.
spk05: The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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