5/1/2025

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Operator
Conference Operator

Good morning and welcome to the CNH 2025 First Quarter Results Conference Call. All lines of the place unmute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Jason Amerseth, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Jason Amerseth
Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. We would like to welcome you to the webcast and conference call for C&H Industrial's first quarter results for the period ending March 31st, 2025. This call is being broadcast live and is copyrighted by C&H. Any recording, transmission, or other use of any portion of this broadcast without the express written consent of C&H is strictly prohibited. Hosting today's call are C&H CEO Garrett Marks and CFO Adone Anchiza. They will reference the material available for download from our website. Please note that any forward-looking statements that we make during today's call are subject to the risks and uncertainties mentioned in the safe harbor statement included in the presentation material. Additional information pertaining to factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's most recent annual report on Form 10-K, as well as other periodic reports and filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Our presentation includes certain non-GAAP financial measures.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

additional information including reconciliations the most directly comparable u.s gap financial measures is included in the presentation material i will now turn the call over to garrett thank you jason and good morning to everyone joining our call originating here from oak brook illinois before we begin i want to address the recent announcement that odona will be stepping down from his role as chief financial officer effective may 6 after more than five years as our CFO, safely navigating our path during COVID and the subsequent global recovery of our exciting industry, all the way to this very phase of our cyclical markets. On behalf of the board and the entire company, I want to extend my sincere thanks to O'Donohue for his outstanding leadership and unwavering dedication over his impressive 28-year career with CNH and related companies. He has been a key force in leading and growing our financial services business first, and then in shaping our financial strategy. And I wish him all the best for his future endeavors. We're also grateful that Odon is working closely with us to ensure a seamless transition with his successor, Jim Nicholas, who joins us from Martin Marietta, a company that is a global leader in its space and shares some of our analyst coverage connected today. We are thrilled to welcome Jim to the team as CNH's incoming chief financial officer. Jim brings a strong background of over 30 years of experience in corporate finance, M&A, tax, investment banking, and business strategy. You will all get a chance to meet Jim in person and on stage when he presents at our investor day in New York next week, alongside me and the other members of our global leadership team. With that, let's look at the first quarter results. where we kept production very low to reduce inventories while defending our growing market shares. So in line with expectations, our financial results came in at a low point. We are focused on what we can control while the industry demand remains soft, and we do our homework on multiple commercial and operational fronts. Our ag dealers continue to make meaningful progress in reducing their inventory. with another $100 million reduction in the quarter or about a billion dollars lower since Q1 2024. Typically, we and our dealers in the Northern Hemisphere built up inventories in the first quarter in preparation for the spring selling season. So while this decrease may seem modest when compared to the larger reduction we saw in Q4, this is actually great progress and right in line with where we expect retail deliveries to be in the coming months. defending our strong market shares in key segments. While some of the dealer inventory reductions, particularly the more aged and special purpose units, were supported by additional incentives in the quarter, we remained disciplined in balancing price and costs, particularly for our latest machines. Price cost was favorable, even with ag pricing slightly lower year over year in the quarter as targeted, and we expect to have better pricing comparisons in the second half, which depends on how the various factors governing our end markets will play out. Construction price cost was nearly even. We launched a great new automated spraying solution for farmers, Case IH Sand Supply and New Holland IntelliSands. using vision technology from Augmenta, the startup we acquired in 2023. This SENS and ACT technology offers great flexibility with a range of spraying application options. And it is a very cost-effective solution for farmers, as it requires no annual subscriptions or per acre fees, which drives efficiency and profitability using our world-class iron and precision technology. Besides the addition of Jim as our new CFO, we also announced some other leadership changes. Luis Abreu as our Chief Information Officer, Francesco Tutino as our Chief Human Resources Officer, and Cameron Batten as our Chief Communications Officer. Welcome to the CNH team. Luis was promoted from our internal bench while Francesco has returned to CNH just as I did almost a year ago. Cameron joined us after growing roles in high-tech and automotive players and is supporting our internal and external messaging as you will experience next week during our Investor Day. We remain relentlessly focused on driving operational excellence across the company, advancing cutting edge technologies and deepening the execution of our cost saving initiatives. We are looking forward to going into more detail during our Investor Day next week. We will review our mid-cycle 2030 profitability targets with you well past the certainly relevant short-term impacts from global uncertainties around tariffs and, of course, the cyclicality of our business. CNH is long-term oriented and focused on doing the right thing, regardless of what we might face in the near term. We will always find the best choice that balances all stakeholder interests. The Q1 results reflect the expected and guided market headwinds and our decision to keep production low. I'm confident we are taking the right steps to navigate this period and position the business for the next cycle upturn and our long-term success. Consolidated revenues for the first quarter were down 21% at $3.8 billion. Industrial adjusted EBIT was $101 million, down 73% compared to last year, and EPS for the quarter was 10 cents. While some commodity prices have improved year over year, farm incomes remain depressed and relevant boundary conditions are quite uncertain, which leads to softness in equipment demand. The adjustments to our manufacturing cadence, while painful, are necessary to position us to weather the equipment demand downturn in a healthy way that balances our various priorities and they also provide an opportunity to improve and change our processes to come out stronger on the other side while our operations run at a slow pace. As expected, retail demand was slow in the quarter. Our production hours were down 26% when compared to Q1 2024, with agriculture down 27% versus 2024 and construction down 19%. For context, Q1 2025 production hours were down 41% versus Q1 2023, with ag down 43% and construction down 33%. Large Ag was down 36% versus 2024 and 50% versus 2023. Small Ag was down 12% versus 2024 and 29% versus 2023. We are working very closely with our dealer network and supporting them with marketing actions and to reciprocal exchange of information to achieve lower healthy inventory levels while preparing for a great fresh model year 2026 lineup to come very soon. By staying close to the dealer network and focusing on market shares, we are well positioned to reach our year-end inventory targets. We are proud of the performance of our financial services segment that yielded sound results while facing the market slowdown and higher risk provisioning needs. This is an important strategic part of our business that provides our farmers and builders with access to competitive financing even when the macro environment becomes more uncertain and less stable. We are seeing once again the value of operating a captive financial services business in volatile times. Later on, we will speak in greater detail about the current tariff discussions and actions. But let me say that we are obviously monitoring the situation very closely given the speed with which things are changing. and we have the team and resources in place to respond and act swiftly. As prior moments of profound change and challenge in our industry have shown, there are some thoughtful actions that can be taken immediately, while other more structural changes will require more certainty and visibility. We act on both sides, effective today and in alignment with our dealers, we implemented a modest price adjustment in North America for new orders, while sharing the tariff cost impact with our supply base. We have been and always will be committed to the North American home of our global brands, and we see multiple ways to address the possible change of global trade, not only of commodities, but also of agriculture and construction equipment. Historically, the ag equipment and market has been more resilient than other industries in terms of GDP contraction, but the uncertainty is not helping an already depressed market. Facing those challenges head on, I'm very proud of our team for continuing to execute in an effective, thoughtful, and calm way, keeping the long-term picture and profound underlying drivers that define our business ecosystem in mind. With that, I will now turn the call over to Adonis to take us through the details of our financial results.

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Garrett, and good morning, everyone. Before I dive in to prepare remarks, let me take a moment to express my gratitude to the colleagues and partners who have made the past 12 years on the CNH Global Executive Team so meaningful. There's never a perfect time, but Garrett and I concurred that this was the right moment for me to hand over my role. as CNH has transformed into a focus US-listed industrial company serving the demands of our farmers and builders. It has been an honor to grow alongside such a special organization, and I'm proud of what we have accomplished together. Special thanks also to this very audience of analysts and investors. It has been a privilege working with you all. Last but not least, I'm very happy that with Jim, CNH has found an experienced, capable, and trusted person to bring things forward. Now to the financials. First quarter industrial net sales were down 23% year-over-year to just below $3.2 billion. This decline was mainly due to lower shipment volumes, given the weak demand environment, and a reduced production in both industrial segments. Adjusted net income decreased by two-thirds, also affected by a higher tax rate and lower financial service results, with adjusted diluted earnings per share down from 30 to 10 cents. Q1 pre-cash flow for industrial activities was at $567 million outflow in line with the working capital seasonality for the first quarter. The cash absorption is significantly better compared to Q1 of 2024, mainly due to a more contained growth of finished goods and component inventories. In agriculture, net sales decreased 23% in the quarter with lower shipment across all regions, driven by lower industry demand and networked stocking in 2025 compared to stocking in 2024. Q1 gross margin was 20%, down 380 basis points year over year, driven mainly by the lower production volumes and unfavorable mix, partially offset by operational cost reductions. Volume and mix were clearly the largest driver for our performance. As Garrett mentioned, pricing was slightly negative in the quarter as we increased our incentives for our dealers to retail aged and used inventory. This was planned, and full-year pricing is forecast to be positive even before the moderate price adjustments that are effective as of today. Production costs were down more than pricing, keeping a positive price-cost relationship, even though quality costs still have a negative impact in the year-over-year comparison, which we expect to reverse in the coming quarters. R&D energy and expenses for the quarter were lower than in Q1 2024, reflecting the continuation of our efforts to contain costs in this environment. We continue to see softness in the Turkish market, which is shown in lower JV results in the other category. Adjusted EBIT margin for agriculture was 5.4%, which we expect to be the lowest profitability for any quarter this year. Moving to construction, Net sales for the first quarter were $591 million, down 22% year over year, driven by lower shipment volumes, mostly in North America. Gross margin for the first quarter was 14.9%, down 250 basis points compared to the first quarter of 2024, mostly driven by the lower volumes. SG&A and R&D expenses were both favorable year over year, and first quarter adjusted EBIT margin was 2.4%. On financial service, net income for the first quarter was $90 million. The year-over-year decrease was mainly driven by higher expected risk costs, higher taxes due to prior year one-off adjustments in Argentina, partially offset by favorable volumes across all regions except EMEA. Retail origination in the first quarter were $2.4 billion, slightly down, but flat on a cost and currency basis, reflecting higher penetration rates in our lower equipment sales scenario. The managed portfolio ended the quarter at $28 billion. It is worth noting that within the total portfolio balance, the wholesale portfolio, which represents the receivables, has done $1.5 billion of custom currencies since March 2024. The dealers have reduced their inventory, adapting to the changed market conditions. Delinquencies are higher with continued pressure in South America, particularly in Brazil, and growing delinquencies in North America. This is in line with what we expect while in a downturn, and we are focusing our efforts on collections. Financial services has its own predictable cycle in our industry. Moving to our capital allocation priorities, which remains unchanged and jumping directly to the shareholder returns. After the dividend proposal is approved at our annual general meeting of shareholders on May 12, we expect to pay an annual dividend of 25 cents per share or over $300 million. We also expect the shareholders to re-approve and extend our standing share buyback authorization. Before I turn it back to Garrett, I want to align how we source the machines that we sell in the US to frame our exposure to the announced import tariffs. The bar across the top of the slide shows the 2024 breakdown in dollar terms of where machines sold in the U.S. came from. About two-thirds were manufactured in U.S. plants, and about one-third of the machines, by value, were imported from other countries. You can see the breakdown of those imports by origin on the right side of the slide. The CNH supply chain footprint is designed to balance cost, central product excellence, local content, and proximity to our key markets. As you can see in the pie chart, last year our US plants sourced 70% of their components from US suppliers, with about an additional 10% coming from Mexico and Canada. We have been working with our suppliers to ensure that we have USMCA documentation for those parts. That leaves the remaining 20% of components sourced mainly from Europe and China. Also keep in mind that U.S. plants export to other regions, mainly to APAC and EMEA. We are proud of the significant production and engineering capabilities in the U.S., and CNH is committed to continuing to further enhance those capabilities in a thoughtful balance as a global engineering, production, and sales company. With that, I will turn it back to Gareth.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Adona, for that important context around the tariff exposure. To say that the past month evolving trade environment has been highly dynamic would be an understatement, but I've experienced that in CNH. We have the right teams and tools in place to turn challenges into opportunities to gain ground and claim our very own turf. We are actively engaged in robust scenario planning around the tariffs, while recognizing that long-term decision-making is difficult when the policies shift so rapidly. But we are viewing the tariff impact through several lenses and understanding impacts on our business, our suppliers, our network partners, our farmers, and our industry overall. A growing global population will have an even greater demand for not only commodities directly, but also indirectly through a shift towards more animal protein consumption. The mechanization and automation of our machines is imperative, and as the global number two player with a pronounced strength in harvesting, we are looking forward to those rising opportunities, particularly when the cycle turns again, as it always does. When we look at the impact to CNH, there are a few points to keep in mind. We import planters from our factory in Saskatoon, Canada, and they are fully USMCA compliant. We're also working on getting all the paperwork in place for the very small number of tractors that come from our joint venture in Mexico. Also, 95% of steel directly purchased by our US plants come from American mills. We are currently producing at very low levels in the US given the industry demand, so the immediate tariff impact isn't the same as if we were at the peak of the industry. We have said before that we will need to look at price adjustments to mitigate tariff impacts that can't otherwise be offset through sourcing or other mechanisms. We want to balance that with being mindful of our farmers and builders and the modest price adjustment on model year 2024 products sold in North America expected to have offset the net tariff impact after supplier actions. Existing pre-sold retail orders will not be affected. That will bridge us to our model year 2026 pricing later this year, with which we expect, as we regularly do, to fully offset any net cost impact as we move into next year. Next, looking at the impact on our farmers. When tariffs 1.0 were implemented in 2018, we did see some shift in demand for food and feed commodities, which depressed their prices. That could happen again. Now, US farmers do expect that if they are negatively impacted by the tariffs, there will be federal support payments to act as a buffer, and that has kept farmer sentiment relatively stable in the past. However, we do think that the continued macroeconomic uncertainty may drive a wait-and-see, conservative approach to capital expenditure. Hence, we might only see more clearly after the summer where and when demand is coming back. At an industry level, the North American ag machinery market was already forecasted to reach cyclical trough levels in 2025, which implies that demand levels should not get much lower. However, lower farm income or restricted access to financing could drive demand lower or drag out the cycle recovery. We will re-evaluate a narrow range of potential outcomes later this year. On the other hand, we may see a shift in commodity demand away from the U.S. and towards other regions, such as Brazil, like we saw with tariffs 1.0. We are uniquely positioned to benefit from that kind of shift because CNH is the most geographically balanced of the major ag OEMs. Beyond this global rebalancing of commodity trade and farm equipment supply, please allow me to stress that we are confident that the US administration will define a support package that is not just short term, but also provides mid to long term certainty for farmers in the heartlands of the United States of America. With those considerations in mind, we wanted to walk you through two of the many possible scenarios that we may face as we frame how we are evolving our playbooks to manage through the market uncertainty. The full year 2025 guidance we issued last quarter obviously did not assume the significant global tariff implications that were announced on April 2nd and the multiple reactions to them. On the far right of the slides, we outline the major assumptions of our upper end scenario. In that scenario, we assume that the current level of tariffs 25% on steel, 145% on China, 25% on Mexico and Canada for non-USMCA compliant products and 10% on other countries will continue for the remainder of the year. We assume no further demand erosion on already very low projected levels. The middle column outlines the lower end scenario. which assumes that once the 90-day pause is over, the full level of tariffs announced on April 2nd will kick in, which might be too pessimistic in light of reports of progressing bilateral discussions between the US and other governments on the subject. We have also assumed that North American industry demand could fall another five percentage points to the lowest historic levels since the early 2000s. So, As we move forward with our revised forecast for the year, keep these assumptions in mind for the upper end and the lower end. They widen the range of outcomes, but hopefully we have given you enough context to understand what is behind these ranges. We are not going into detail today on the portfolio of possible actions we are preparing to align CNH in a new reality. We will talk about those once the boundary conditions have stabilized and structural decisions are sensible to be taken. Now let's review our latest outlook for Ag in 2025. Overall, we had expected the global industry demand to be down 5 to 10% from 2024. With the additional risk in North America that I outlined before, that could look like 10 to 15% down. We have widened the range of our sales forecasts to account for additional pricing on one side, but also for potential industry demand drop on the other side. We've also widened our Ag EBIT margin forecast to between 7% and 9%, recognizing a partial absorption of the tariff impact to do right by our farmers and the potential that we may need to lower production even further, while staying on our path of inventory reductions and pricing discipline. In construction, the new impacts that we have reflected are very similar to AG. It is important to point out, however, that construction as an industry is more tied to GDP growth than agriculture. We have widened the sales forecast range to down 4 to 15% and the EBIT margin range to 2 to 4% for 2025. We've had active discussions with potential strategic partners for our construction business. However, we have paused any decision on pathways until the current levels of uncertainty have settled and we get the full visibility on what lies ahead. CASE Construction's lineup at the recent Bauma fair in Munich was very well received with new compact and large machines all equipped with digital functionalities and connected services. We feel very good about CASE Construction's path ahead as we evolve its partnerships in this environment. Putting the two industrial segments together, we forecast 2025 net sales to be 11% to 19% lower than 2024 with an industrial adjusted EBIT margin between 4.5% and 6.5%. We have taken the lower end of the free cash flow range a bit down, but we maintained the upper end on better working capital assumptions. So free cash flow is now forecasted to be between 100 to 500 million dollars in 2025, a definite positive recovery from 2024 when we took the swing in working capital on the back of deep production cuts by design. With the dispersion of potential tariff outcomes, we have widened the EPS forecast to between 50 and 70 cents. Looking at our priorities for the remainder of the year. We are navigating the regional demand trends to ensure that we are responsive to ongoing shifts in the market, especially as we are dealing with the rapidly changing trade environment. Q2 production slots for both agriculture and construction are already full with orders, and Q3 is more than 50% booked with most products, with some products already completely sold out. We at CNH are staying focused on mission-critical initiatives and not getting distracted by all the trade noise. Nothing about what is happening changes our long-term trajectory. Rather, it is a near-term obstacle that we will navigate. Our production levels will remain intentionally lower at least through the first half of the year as planned. After this period of observing and adjusting, we will move into aligning our production for the second half in tandem with the realities of the trade impacts. We made total quality a part of our mindset, driving quality in everything that we do. We will continue to invest in our products and we continue to work on our manufacturing and sourcing efficiencies. You will see next week what we have in store as we evolve the mid-cycle profitability of our company. At the Investor Day on May 8, our team will provide more insight into our product roadmap, precision technology, our go-to-market strategy, and quality. We are really excited about it, and I hope that you are all planning to tune in. In conclusion, it's a difficult market today, but it's also something quite exciting. Change and transition always bear the greatest fruit for those who lean in, carefully weigh the options, and then decisively pursue map pathways. We are monitoring the demand indicators closely and the overall macro environment. With our balanced global exposure, CNH is well positioned to navigate the current market and additional policy shifts. We remain committed to providing our farmers and builders with excellent quality products and services while continuing to improve and innovate our technology. That concludes our prepared remarks and we are ready for the Q&A.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session of the call. As a reminder to everyone, if you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, that is to press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad to ask a question. And if you would like to withdraw your question, simply press star one again. To allow time for as many questions as possible, please limit yourself to one question, then return to the queue for any follow-ups. If you are called upon to ask your question and are listening via loudspeaker on your device, please pick up your handset and ensure that your phone is not on mute when asking the question. Thank you. The first question comes from the line of Angel Castillo with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

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Angel Castillo
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Madonna, I just wanted to wish you all the best, and Jim, also looking forward to working with you here at CNH as we did at MLM. But with that, just a quick question. Wanted to dig in a little bit more on the tariffs. Apologies if I missed this, Garrett, but just can you help us quantify exactly how much is kind of implied in terms of from an EPS perspective in terms of the headwind in kind of the low end and the high end. Another way of kind of saying like how much would be your EPS if you hadn't included any incremental tariffs?

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

Although I hear Angela, I would say that most of all of the change in our guidance is due to the to the status scenarios, right? We put there two scenarios because of the high level of uncertainty that we have here. So if you take the move of the midpoint, that is where we think that's the number that you need to take.

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

And then depending on how things evolve, we will move on that range.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Profoundly, nothing has changed except for the tariffs, and we have thoughtfully widened our guidance range to 200 basis points in order to account for the scenarios that we see ahead and uh we'll we'll need to see what this is going to clear up over the over the course of the summer but i think as so donna said it was the move of the midpoint that we see as a possible impact from from a certain tariff scenario your next question comes from the line of team tain with raymond james please go ahead

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Operator
Conference Operator

Hi.

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Team Tain
Analyst, Raymond James

Thank you. Good morning. Maybe just for my one question, if we could drill down a bit into the production cost within the ag business, the favorable, I think it was $39 million. Just thinking how you're thinking about the spend on related to within that, the spend related to quality. I believe the expectation coming into the year was for that warranty spend to still be a year over year had went through the first half. I guess just how we're thinking about this cost outlook, taking the tariff discussion, albeit an important one, out of the equation, just how we're thinking about that kind of component between quality spend and then just separately your outlook from our manufacturing costs. Thank you.

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, you're right. I mean, quality is still negative in the quarter, as we said in our prepared remarks. So we have a reduction in production costs, which includes an additional charge or additional delta for quality. We expect to revert that in the coming quarters because last year, particularly in the second part of the year, we

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

spend additional dollars on quality, which we expect not to repeat this year, because we have improved the quality of the products coming out of the plants, and we have preventively cured some of the issues that we had.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, and I think on a seasonality, we accelerated our accruals on quality in the second half of last year. So on a year-over-year basis in the first quarter, we're still on the quality side up, yet I can already tell you that we are seeing a much better quality leaving our factories today. And there is much more to go after with our global quality teams now being laser focused on making sure that what leaves our factories meets or exceeds customer expectations. So we are on a very good path here. And as these quality accruals are trailing, We are still in Q1. We're still up year over year on that side. But despite that, the cost of production is lower. So we see a good potential here in the second half of the year and as we enter into 2026.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Kristin Owen with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

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Kristin Owen
Analyst, Oppenheimer

Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking the question. And in regards to Adon, I thank you for all the help over the years. I wanted to ask if you could elaborate, Garrett, on some of the prepared remarks that you made about the price adjustments and sharing some of the costs with your suppliers. If you could just elaborate on that and perhaps address longer term. I wanted to ask you about the efforts you've undertaken on the procurement program over the last couple of years and how the tariff landscape might impact that ongoing effort. Thank you.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you for the question. So look, the price adjustments we have implemented actually effective today, May 1st, are moderate and low single digit, balancing what we already see to come our way with the run out of model year 2025 that is in production for the second and the third quarter. So this is a moderate adjustment and then we'll see what it means to make machines in the fourth quarter and that is predominantly then model year 2026 that will be shipped in Q4 and sold in Q4 and then starting from the beginning of 2026 onwards. So that is a regular price adjustment on the back of, let's say, cost movements and this is well aligned with our network and we don't consider that to be a a major issue. On the sharing with suppliers, obviously we are working very actively with our supply base on the impacts from this tariff exposure, from the exposure that is certain at this point, the 10% for everyone, and obviously also the exposure on China and certain materials like steel. But that is from our point of view pretty logical to approach suppliers and that is also common in the industry to approach suppliers to have a sharing of those cost increases as we are going through this phase of uncertainty, which will trigger a obviously resourcing and probably also most likely relocation of certain production facilities of suppliers into countries with more favorable tariff exposure, including, obviously, the United States. So these types of discussions are ongoing. Such relocations will take time, and I think sharing such costs with our supply base keeps both of us pretty alerted to get it done quickly. So that is our mindset that we deploy. at this point and you mentioned the strategic sourcing program which comes together quite nicely and you see the early results of those wave one and wave two coming through in our production costs as I replied to in the previous question. We are continuing that and we obviously have a very close look at those sources and origins of components that we consider to resource to get to a better cost position. And certain countries where the exposure is more elevated and higher, obviously those countries and those sources are probably less favorable to be considered in our strategic sourcing program. So it has an immediate impact and the teams are super well prepared to take the right choice in between the various options that we have. Because for every component that we resource or we have in the resourcing program, we have somewhere between four to six alternative suppliers from various different countries. So I think this tariff situation is going to impact decisions, but it's not going to slow us down by any way and doesn't deviate our attention away from getting the best outcome at a better cost position for CNH.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tammy Zakaria with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

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Tammy Zakaria
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Hey, good morning, and farewell to Adone. It was an honor to work with you. So question on the ag margin. I think I heard you say 1Q was going to be the low point. So if you could provide some color on how to think about the cadence of ag segment margin as the year progresses, 2Q through 4Q.

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. I mean, the first quarter is typically a low quarter and this year we took I mean by design we took production down significantly we didn't produce that level of inventory and and sales to our dealers that we typically do in the first quarter because we are assessing what demand is and we as we discussed uh throughout last year also we are assessing what is available already available on the field um the second quarter will still be relatively low and then our expectation is to have a second half much better going back to the double-digit profitability.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Next question comes from the line of Kyle Mingus with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

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Kyle Mingus
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you. Just following up on that question, how should we be thinking about earnings in the second quarter? Should we still be pretty confident in a seasonal step up in earnings from the first quarter to the second quarter despite tariff impacts? And then how should we be thinking about possible outcomes for EPS in the second half? And then just also more of a clarifying question on the price adjustments and when those might actually show up in the P&L, just given production slots are full for the second quarter and 50% or so for the third quarter. Does that basically price adjustments don't show up at all in the second quarter, then a little in the third and then more so in the fourth quarter would be helpful to hear how to think about that. Thank you.

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

Maybe let me start from the price adjustment. They will likely show up when the product with higher cost will come in. And those price adjustments are specific for North America, right? And they start today. So they will come, they will flow through the P&L at the same time where higher costs will flow to the P&L. Then we will have, Gary talked about, other price adjustments that we will have in the normal cycle at the end of the year for the model year 2026. Then, of course, on the P&L, you don't only have the list price, but you also have the discounted incentives that we give. And we say that we have a higher level of incentives on the first, we had a higher level of incentive on the first quarter.

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Adone Anchiza
Chief Financial Officer

And those are moderating in the coming quarter.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Allow me to make the link to the imperative to reduce inventories further over the course of the year. I mean, our machines have appreciated the price quite a bit, and we keep increasing that net price in light of the current situation we're going through, but also the improved functionalities and the additional technology that we are engineering and loading into those machines. Given that these machines, on average, are getting more and more pricey, obviously, we need to be, as an industry, and so are we, very, very cautious when it comes to dealer inventories because these numbers carry interest. And having our dealers at a low level of inventories is not only in itself, let's say, healthy at times like these, during times like these, but with increasing machine prices, I mean, lower inventories on the dealer side are needed to lower the financial exposure for them on the interest side. So I think this is why we are convinced that the choice we made driving inventories down while making thoughtful interventions on the price side vis-a-vis the global scenario is the right choice, is the right trade-off. And we will keep adjusting that over the course of the year as we see clearer how this whole, you know, tariff exposure and global trade will unfold. So this is connected, tariffs and, or not tariffs, pricing of machines and inventory.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Daniel Costa with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

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Daniel Costa
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions. I actually wanted to ask on three, if possible at all, but they're quick. You commented extensively, very helpful data on the tariffs and the impact on yourself. Wondering if you see your peers more or less similarly positioned or it's sort of a disadvantage or an advantage in certain pockets. That's number one. I'll ask them one at a time.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Daniela. I will look, um, we obviously have no insights into their, into their real exposure of supply chain. So we don't know. Um, so we can only look at, um, you know, where machines are made and from where they are shipped, because that is public, public knowledge. So I think, um, from, from a us point of view, I think we are a pretty, um, you know, we are more or less exposed similar to, um, the larger competitor in the United States when it comes to these. tariffs, while I think obviously being attached to the European production predominantly, that is not exactly helpful at this point in time. However, on the other side, the European market, as we see it, is going to enter a lower decline phase in 2025. And when we look at the early outs of 2026, than the United States. So being more exposed to a European market might provide lower volatility in the very near term, given the decline in the United States in large cash crop, as we alluded to last time, which we see in the 30% minus range for large machines working in cash crop. We need to see, and by the way, the harvesting segment in itself is slightly higher impacted than the tractor segment in itself. So there are, let's say, different exposures if you split tractors versus combines and then you look at regions Europe versus US, but I consider this exposure to be pretty short-term and that it will wash out certainly over the next 12 to 18 months. But that is what I see at this point. We feel with our heavy machines, the big machines, the four-wheel drives, the sprayers, the magnums, the combines all made in the United States for the United States, we feel very well positioned to keep track and be very close to our dealers and customers and farmers, providing them world-class equipment at competitive pricing.

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Conference Operator

Overtake the next question. A friendly reminder to return to the queue to ask additional questions. Our next question comes from the line of Nick Dobry with Bayard. Please go ahead.

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Nick Dobry
Analyst, Bayard

Thank you, good morning, and appreciate the helpful detail on tariffs. I guess the question that I'm looking to get at is your comment on dealer inventories. The $100 million D-Stock was encouraging. Where do you see dealer inventories currently? Maybe globally you can comment on that. And I'm curious as well on construction, not just on ag. At what point in time do you think you're going to be right-sized given where current level of demand are?

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Thanks for the question. Look, the way we look at it is always forward month sales. This is the indicator, so month of forward sales. And one big impact is also our projection of expected sales in the market that impacts that KPI. As per the prior call, we made an announcement that we are aiming at about a 1 billion inventory reduction. We clocked 100 million now in the first quarter, as I mentioned, which is a great accomplishment by our network and team, given that usually from a seasonality point of view, the Q1 is up in inventory. So having a net minus 100 is, as you said, promising and quite encouraging. We'll continue to be on that path, and we will continue to keep production levels low in the second quarter, carefully observing how demand will evolve. We have not yet opened, obviously, our order books for the model year 26, which we will do over summer. And then we will start filling Q4 production with a new model year. And I think in this overall mix of pace on retail and a very careful view on production speed, and capacity, we believe that we will definitely continue on this path in the second quarter and in the second half, somewhere in the second half, we shall see our production pace in the line equal retail pace on a global level. Yet this might look quite different by region. So as we mentioned before as well, I mean, Brazil is now in the third year of a downturn. As we speak right now, There is the AgriShow hosted in Brazil. Our team is there, super engaged, showing the latest of our product innovations. And we are engaging with farmers in Brazil, as we speak right now, even closer during the AgriShow. And what we hear is a positive sentiment about what might come, but this has not yet reached a level where it would trigger capex expenditures. So procurement of ag machines in Brazil have remained on a low level in the first quarter. Confidence levels are improving and now it all comes down to what is going to be announced as, let's say, final in the global trade over the course of the summer and before the end of the year in order to bring back the confidence to the Brazilian farmers and that should restart considerate equipment purchases in that region. And I think that is a market to come back. Europe, we need to see. In Europe, there are these ongoing discussions around, let's say, a peace in Ukraine, and that would obviously also impact the commodity production in the country. Once there is certainty, I think the production levels will keep coming up. And here, this is a supply of commodities. We'll also need to see what will the summer bring in terms of, you know, deals, bilateral trade deals, and how will also other nations like China ink their deals with Brazil even further. You know that soybeans imports to China predominantly coming already from Brazil to a very large extent. And I think if there was a further shift away from soybean imports from the U.S. into China, I think the only source for getting those in quantity is Brazil. However, their production level is already quite high. So we might see there some interesting dynamics on that end in global trade. And that will also drive our production decisions in the third and the fourth quarter by region. But on a global level, I think we expect production pace to equal retail pace somewhere in the second quarter, sorry, second half, somewhere in the second half, with the second quarter still being on a similar trend like the first quarter by design. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we keep production levels at this level, which is quite painful, but it is needed.

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Conference Operator

The next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook with Truist Securities. Please, go ahead.

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Jamie Cook
Analyst, Truist Securities

Hi, good morning. I guess my question, the dealer inventory color was helpful. Can you just speak to what you're seeing sort of by region, you know, on the pricing or the competitive landscape, whether that's gotten better? And then I guess just following on that, your commentary on tariffs, I'm wondering if that is – could potentially help at all with dealer inventories, i.e., they want to buy the equipment on the lot because they're worried about tariffs, and to what degree that could help support used pricing. Thank you.

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

Well, I'll start from the second question. That is an effect you are describing that is called in several industries pre-buy effect. So whether there's, when there's something coming that would, um, you know, pick up demand for certain products and commodities. I mean, we on low levels, again, on low levels, we do see, um, uh, good interest in, in our machines and a good, good retail price, uh, pace again on low levels, uh, also in the United States, in the United States. And here we, um, I wouldn't call it a pre-buy effect, I wouldn't call it a big wave, but I think there's a continued interest in the machines and now that moderate price increases are coming and the model year 26 is entering production in the fourth quarter, I think there might be a certain helpful demand coming towards used machines and machines on the lot, but that isn't a major It is not a major thing at this point, so we are not seeing it yet unfolding to a great extent. In terms of pricing and competition across the different regions, whether something has changed, well, look, we keep seeing good demand in regions like Australia, New Zealand, also in Europe. On a low level, we see good pace, good interest, and that gives us confidence in the strength of our sector vis-à-vis GDP and that people need to eat. The population is growing, and our farmers need to produce even more efficiently the food for the world and the growing population. And with all of that, including a shift, as I mentioned, from a direct consumption, if you will, of commodity or carbon hydrate-based products towards protein-based and more animal protein-based nutrition, we see overall an even slight acceleration of commodity consumption given that it takes quite a bit of soybean and corn in order to grow animal protein. So there's an underlying shift and push in the direction of our industry in the long term. But at this very moment, I think we feel very competitively positioned in all regions vis-à-vis our other market participants, yet we have slight differences here and there depending on how we source and where we make machines. But again, we all start now in Q2 to adjust pricing. And with that, we will see how markets will react and also how the market in terms of volume will evolve over the next two, three quarters.

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Conference Operator

The next question comes from the line of David Grasso with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

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David Grasso
Analyst, Evercore ISI

Hi, thank you. Actually, a little more just a clarification. When you're saying pricing is hitting today, is that on new orders or any shipments from today onward?

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

The price increase that has become effective today is on new customer and new, obviously, dealer orders. The customer orders that were placed prior to the announcement of the tariffs and prior to the effectiveness of the related increases in cost, those orders are protected and we are not changing prices where customers have given us their definite order before the change happened in April. So we are having the impact, the effectiveness of this price increase is in Q2 and is in Q3 on dealer orders and on new customer orders coming in.

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Our last question for today comes from the line of Avi Jaroslavic at UBS. Please go ahead.

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Avi Jaroslavic
Analyst, UBS

Hi, good morning. Thanks, guys. Of the finished products that you're importing from overseas, how are you handling the price adjustments there? Are you just taking the baseline tariff or whatever the effective tariff rate is for that country and applying that as a surcharge or on the sticker price? Also, within that bucket of products, Are there any products that you think it just doesn't make economic sense due to competitive factors to continue offering with the tariffs that we have in place today?

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Garrett Marks
Chief Executive Officer

All machines, all equipment that we import to the US still makes very much sense to be imported and to be made. The 10% flat on everybody does not change that. that attractiveness of the product. And the machines that we're, you know, mid-range tractors, for example, or, you know, light tractors that are coming from Europe, those machines, we are not, you know, applying flat the percentage and then, you know, call it price. What we're doing, we thoughtfully go, obviously, through the bill of material, how these tariffs do apply to the various different aspects of the machine. We then thoughtfully go through the you know list of suppliers and the sources of supply seek for a reasonable sharing of those tariffs and then the remainder is rolled up into a price increase on the on the machine On the retail price and the wholesale price and then eventually on the retail price here in the US. So that is how it's how it's done and But we also have a very thorough look at the inventory levels of those machines in the country. When we talk about our dealer inventory levels being still 900 million towards the end of the year, 900 million too high versus the expectations that we had at that moment in time, and those are confirmed for now. We have on the imported machines from Europe rather higher inventory levels than on the locally made machines because the supply chain from Europe is obviously longer than from the US. So we have higher inventory levels on average when you look at mid-range or smaller tractors across the board. And that means we are very carefully observing how this tariff situation will evolve. And we are pacing well imports from Europe to the US accelerating the inventory reduction on the one side, but also avoiding stocking up on units at higher prices too early. So it really goes machine by machine. And we look at inventory levels, where they are, and how retail pays and retail interest for these machines materializes. And that would drive, let's say, the orders from our North American team towards the European team when it comes to mid range and small range tractors. And, um, so it's a, it's a bit more, it's a bit more sophisticated, uh, than a line in a, in an Excel sheet, but it's, uh, certainly, um, it's, it's carried out very thoughtfully by our teams, um, in Europe and in the U S always with an eye on inventory levels.

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Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's question and answer session and today's conference call. We thank you for your participation today. You may now disconnect.

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