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10/29/2020
Good morning. Welcome to CNX Resources' third quarter 2020 earnings conference call. Our participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there'll be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tyler Lewis, VP of Investor Relations. Go ahead.
Thank you, and good morning to everybody. Welcome to CNX's third quarter conference call. We have in the room today Nick Deulius, our President and CEO, Don Rush, our Chief Financial Officer, and Chad Griffith, our Chief Operating Officer. Today we will be discussing our third quarter results. In a continued effort to simplify our message to reach a broader investor base, we have modified our earnings press release this quarter and provided an updated investor slide presentation, which is posted to our website. This slide presentation is focused on what we believe are the metrics that matter most to our investors. Also detailed third quarter earnings release data, such as quarterly E&P data, financial statements, and non-GAAP reconciliations are posted to our website in a document titled 3Q-2020 Earnings Results and Supplemental Information of CNX Corporation. One other change this quarter is that in conjunction with the recently closed merger of CNXM, the company has changed its reportable segments to shale, coal bed methane, and other. The other segment includes nominal shallow oil and gas production, which is not significant to the company. It also includes various other items managed outside the reportable segments. More information will be available in our 10Q, which we plan to file today. As a reminder, any forward-looking statements we make or comments about future expectations are subject to business risks, which we have laid out for you in our materials today, as well as in our previous Securities and Exchange Commission filings. We will begin our call today with prepared remarks by Nick, followed by Don, And then we will open the call for Q&A where Chad will participate as well. With that, let me turn the call over to you, Nick.
Thanks, Tyler. Good morning, everybody. I want to start with two simple themes, and I think these themes sum up how we view CNX's future and the investment opportunity that it presents. The first one is we do the right thing, and we define doing the right thing as making capital allocation decisions to optimize the long-term intrinsic value per share of CNX for our owners. Second theme, it's just math. Our decision-making and investment thesis comes down to simple arithmetic. I want to go over to slide two in the deck that we made available this morning. And I think slide two highlights the four crucial metrics that sets us apart from peers. I'm going to start at the top left of that slide with inventory. The inventory chart that you see there highlights how CNX has the deepest and the longest-lived inventory under a $2.50 gas price. that's an inventory more than double the peer average. And when you look at our total inventory, we're sitting at 49 years, which is more than three and a half times the peer average. This independent analysis from Embarrass is a ground-up technical assessment from a very well-respected third party, and the study confirms exactly what we've been saying for some time and should put the rest to any concerns when it comes to CNX having best-in-class and the deepest inventory of future locations that works at a $2.50 gas price or lower. More importantly, the steep inventory, that's the feedstock for the free cash flow generating factory that extends way beyond our seven-year outlook. You also see on the slide there are other metrics that we think are crucial, three in particular. As we discussed before, CNX has the lowest cash operating costs in the basin. Our all-in cash costs, which are approaching a buck in the fourth quarter and for 2021, are going to drop even lower and start to approach $0.90 in 2022. That's soon going to make us the lowest all-in cash cost player in the basin, which is an awesome thing. We also offer the highest free cash flow yield when compared to our peers. We talked about that in the recent past. And last, we've got one of the best balance sheets. The balance sheet's only getting stronger as time goes on and as debt level is reduced. So in all, we think these four metrics, they clearly set us apart. They illustrate the significant potential upside. We are a free cash flow per share factory that offers de-risk returns for our owners. If you go to the next slide, slide three, you see a graph there also from the Invera study and report that I referenced on the last slide. And this one goes into more detail on what that economic inventory for each peer at different gas prices looks like. And as you can see, we've got the best inventory at low gas price levels. We've got the best inventory at the strip pricing. And we've got the best inventory at high gas price levels. We've got over a decade of inventory at a $2 NYMEX price deck. over 20 years at today's $2.45 strip, and 50 years at $3 gas. Now, our industry, it is always full of chatter about the metric or strategy of choice for the quarter of the year, sort of what's the color or the flavor du jour. But in the end and over the long haul, there's really three things to truly get excited about in our industry. That's inventory that works at a $2.50 or lower gas price. That's being a low-cost manufacturer of natural gas. and that's posting consistent and significant levels of free cash flow per share. We hit the mark on every single one of those. As mentioned, we've got multiple decades' worth of core inventory that's economically advantageous at that $2.50 pricing level or $2.25. We've got an asset base that's delineated, and we've built an industry-leading low-cost structure coupled with a multi-year hedge book. All those things generate substantial free cash flow per share through all phases of the commodity cycle. Our low-cost structure... It's made possible by several competitive advantages that creates a moat and which our peers can't easily replicate. One of the most important and non-replicable of those is that we own our midstream assets. When you're a commodity manufacturer, being the low-cost, most reliable manufacturer of that commodity, core and crucial. We're fast approaching all-in, fully burdened cash costs of $1 when the peer average is somewhere around $1.70. We expect to generate consistent quarter-on-quarter, year-on-year free cash flow for the next seven years, somewhere to the tune of $3.4-plus billion on a cumulative basis. That's genuine, substantial free cash flow that's nearly one and a half times our current market cap. Our business model should quickly drive our debt leverage ratio lower, and our competitive advantages, they should lead to our free cash flow per share outperforming peers and staying strong for years to come. This has been many years in the making to create this simple but compelling story. and it's a straightforward one. Again, this is just math and doing the right thing under proven capital allocation methodology. Our free cash flow yield is not only industry-leading, but more importantly, market index-leading across a wide spectrum of different industries and sectors. Thus, we're shifting our messaging and our focus to appeal to a broader investor group beyond the traditional E&P investors. Now, let's talk a little bit about the state of the world. There's a topic you could spend an inordinate amount of time on today and how it impacts our thinking. Clearly, right, we all know this. The world is faced with challenges and uncertainty, and we think there's a significant risk that those are going to escalate over the next 90 days. So if you reflect on what's happened so far in 2020, this year, of course, has proven to be completely unpredictable. We've had COVID. We've had oil prices collapsing. economic volatility, all kinds of calamities. And what gas prices are going to do next year, that's partly a function of all those things we've already dealt with this year. But we recognize this unpredictability, and we've built our company not just to withstand volatility, but to thrive under it and the potential challenges that come with it. We think the next 90 days present elevated risks, given the recent rise in COVID cases, the election that's looming, uncertainty on how winter weather shapes up or whether it does strongly or weakly. and the economy, as well as how, frankly, the producers of oil and natural gas are going to respond to all that. However, despite this unstable world, we've got a stable platform to continue to execute our plan and adjust to the new realities. We expect to produce a significant amount of free cash flow regardless of what happens in the next 90 days. And given all the uncertainty that exists currently, we plan to use that free cash flow over the next 90 to further reduce debt. It's the prudent thing to do in the near term given the uncertainty that we face. And as we enter into 2021 and beyond, our main priority is still going to be to delever. And in rough math, we expect to pay down approximately $1 billion of debt through 2023. You assume the adjusted EBITDA stays around $1 billion a year. That gets us to about a 1.5 times debt leverage ratio. Now, if you look at those next three years that I just talked about, I think those next three years are a great illustration of how our de-risk cash flow per share factory is is poised to allocate capital into very intrinsic value per share accretive ways. The great thing about generating approximately half a billion dollars in free cash flow per year is that it gives you some flexibility without sacrificing the debt reduction goal that I laid out. And if our free cash flow yield stays around 20%, we're going to have the wherewithal to return capital along the way through share buybacks while still achieving our debt leverage target of one and a half times. We kept around $1 billion of prepayable debt on our revolvers that are due in 2024, and we expect to generate approximately $1.5 billion in free cash flow before they expire. So you can see that we got the ability for opportunistic capital returns via share buybacks along the way if we so choose. And if we continue to hover around a share price that reflects a 20% free cash flow yield, I suspect we'll use some of that $1.5 billion in free cash flow over the next three years and between now and a 1.5 times leverage ratio to do just that. So in the near term of 2021, budgeting a portion of our free cash flow towards share repurchases, if our stock continues to yield 20% on a cash basis, that gets us off to a really good start. Where we actually land is going to depend on all the facts and circumstances and comes down to, there's that term again, the math. But you can see the optionality and the value creation potential that are presented by doing the right thing under sound capital allocation and following the math. I'd like to talk a minute about M&A. We always remain open-minded to considering M&A that makes sense for our owners. For CNX to acquire something, it's going to have to have a risk-adjusted rate of return that beats our other capital allocation options. With our stock at a 20% cash yield, acquisitions are going to have a really tough time competing. Larger M&A, as emerging with basin peers and the like, you're going to need to find someone who's not going to dilute or weaken our best-in-class attributes that harken back to slide two that I covered a couple of minutes ago. So M&A that dilutes our best-in-basin inventory, that wouldn't be attractive. As we've established, we don't need inventory. And since we lead the basin on inventory that works at $2.50, gas prices are lower, both in terms of locations and years at maintenance activity levels. There's really a compelling case there that the inventory we've got is fully within the grasp of what we own and control. M&A that increases cash costs, that wouldn't be attractive. As I said, we've got the lowest cost in the basin. Those costs are guiding even lower. So any merger that would increase our go-forward costs would be difficult to rationalize when we're in a commodity manufacturing business. M&A dilutes our free cash flow per share. That can be a problem. Avoiding dilution of free cash flow per share and having a clear path to long-term growth in free cash flow per share, those are essential for the creation of long-term shareholder value. An M&A that would harm balance sheet through high debt and or off-balance sheet commitments like unused FTE that's probably the wrong direction. Balance sheet strength and the ability to de-lever organically and avoiding burdensome long-term gathering, processing, and transportation contracts, those GP&T contracts, those are critical factors to future success in our industry. So to sum up these points, again, always open to considering moves that improve shareholder value. But we're not interested in value-eroding M&A that takes our industry-leading metrics and balance sheet and degrades them to improve someone else's metrics and balance sheet at the expense of our shareholders and employees. Pretty simple approach. So in summary, consistent with our long-term multi-year plan, we intend to invest our free cash flow in the right places to optimize the long-term intrinsic value per share of the company. We expect our sustained and competitive advantages to create enhanced value for our shareholders. We remain committed to our strategy, and we've never been more excited about the opportunity we've got in front of us. I'm going to end where I started. We do the right thing under sound capital allocation theory, and it's just math. With that, now I'm going to turn things over to Don Rush.
Thanks, Nick, and good morning, everyone. I would like to start on slide four, which highlights our quarterly results in a much simpler, concise format. As you can see, in the quarter, we continued to generate strong cash operating margins, driving $121 million of free cash flow. We also expect to generate a significant amount of free cash flow in Q4, and in 2021, which results in our industry-leading free cash flow yields. Our trailing 12-month leverage ratio was 2.6 times, and we continue to expect this to improve to approximately two times by year-end 2021, as we move closer to our 1.5 times leverage ratio target. Year-to-date, we have fully retired approximately $900 million of our 2022 senior notes through a combination of debt refinancings and organically generated free cash flow. We were able to accomplish this while shutting in one-third of our volumes to take advantage of seasonal price contango while simultaneously increasing our projected 2020 and 2021 free cash flow throughout the course of the year. Slide 5 shows our strategic plan in action, a plan that is delivering substantial free cash flow. Year-to-date, the company has generated over $270 million in free cash flow. and we expect this positive trend to continue in Q4 and beyond. With a projected annual average of approximately $515 million in the 2022 through 2026 time period, which assumes an average NYMEX commodity price of approximately $2.50, our ability to generate substantial, consistent, free cash flow at low commodity price levels is a testament to our competitive advantages. One final point to note is that our current free cash flow calculation takes into consideration working capital changes, whereas many of our peers exclude these and other items. We believe this all-in approach more accurately reflects the current funds available for potential debt repayment and shareholder returns. As we transition into 2021 and beyond, we plan to provide additional discussion around these working capital changes. to help investors more clearly compare the free cash flow generation potential of our company relative to our industry peers' reported numbers, as well as those in other industries. And for reference, our 2020 free cash flow would be well over $400 million if we excluded working capital changes like our peers do for a more apples-to-apples look. Slide 6 shows how we have not been satisfied simply with good results, Since we have started discussing our 2020 and beyond guidance in the second quarter of 2019, we have been steadily increasing our free cash flow estimates for 2020 and 2021. We believe we have built this seven-year plan with conservative assumptions and will work to continuously improve the plan. Slide 7 shows how our costs have come down in Q3 despite the shut-ins and how we see them continuing to decrease in Q4 and beyond with all of our volumes back online. Also, the operating margins shown on the slide include non-cash DD&A. And as we have said in prior calls, our go-forward capital intensity is much lower. So, moving forward, we expect that these numbers will be even better with cash margins over 50%. Slide 8 illustrates our new capital structure, which has ample liquidity with our RBL recently reaffirmed at $2.5 billion between our two facilities. It's also important to note that we have significant runway as it pertains to our maturity schedule, with our first unsecured bonds not coming due until 2026. All this is even more impressive when you consider we expect to produce over $500 million in free cash flow per year, which gives us the ability to control our own destiny. Our liquidity position, coupled with our assets, low cost, and hedging strategy are all working towards a balance sheet that is strong and strengthening and gives us leeway to navigate periods of uncertainty in any macro environment. Slide 9 is our guidance slide. For 2020, we are tightening up the guidance ranges for production and capital with one quarter to go. And we expect our EBITDA to be around $900 million, the high end of our previous guidance. For 2021, we have increased our 2021 EBITDA to approximately $960 million on improved pricing. And we are currently leaving our capital and free cash flow guidance the same for now. As we have indicated in the past, we always try to shape our activity set to better match the price curve if there are material differences to take advantage of. So, depending on how the winter and 2021 gas price strip shapes up, we could move some completion activity up into 2021. However, we do not plan on adding incremental activity to our seven-year plan, just optimizing the shape of our production profile to match short-term pricing events. And, as we have demonstrated, we can do this while increasing both near-term free cash flow and long-term value. our primary focus will continue to be increasing our free cash flow per share over the seven-year plan. We believe that our cash flow projections are low risk, and to provide a sensitivity, even if NIMEX gas prices were to average $2.25 from now until the end of 2026, we project that the business would still generate approximately $2.9 billion in free cash flow, even when holding our costs the same. which, in a world like that, they would likely come down and improve that number. This is primarily due to our best-in-class hedge book, leading inventory positions, and low-cost structure. That is extremely impressive for a $2.25 NIMEX downside sensitivity case. And like we have said many times before, if gas prices get to and stay at $3 for the long term, there's a massive amount of additional free cash flow and value creation for CNX. Everybody looks good at higher gas prices, though. Not many do at low ones. Slide 10 simply reiterates how strong our 2021 numbers are, not just within the E&P space, but against the market in general. For instance, our free cash flow yield and operating margins are within the 93rd and 88th percentiles when compared to the S&P 1500 index. Not only do our 2021 metrics look strong, but our 2022 and beyond look even better, even with commodity prices currently below $2.50 for the long term. To repeat, these leading metrics indicate CNX's exceptional results versus the S&P 500 index will persist at a sub $2.50 NYMEX gas price. To sum it up, We are excited about our future. We have ample inventory to produce for decades, and our plan will create substantial value for our shareholders, no matter what gas prices do and without the need to go to the capital or debt markets or resort to M&A for it to work. With that, I will turn it back over to Tyler for Q&A.
Thanks, Don. Operator, if you can open the line up for Q&A at this time, please.
We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchstone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question is from Leo Mariani from KeyBank. Go ahead.
Hey, guys. Just wanted to follow up a little bit on the 2020 production guidance. Looking at the range for the full year, if I'm doing the math right, it still implies maybe $100 million a day range in Q4. If I look at the full year range, just kind of wanted to get a sense of what's going on there. Obviously, we've seen much wider Appalachian gas price dips of late. Is there any wiggle room for potential shut-ins, or is this more just to allow for shifting activity, maybe from Q4 to Q1, if winter doesn't 100% cooperate, just trying to get a sense of the range here?
Yeah, hey, this is Chad. I'll start off, and maybe Don can add in on the back end if he wants to add anything. You know, as we sort of move into, you know, we talked previously about the shut-ins over the course of the summer. We are moving towards having basically all of our production online now. We're in the process of flowing back really our last pad that we had shut in. I'm sorry, opening up the last pad that we had shut in, and we should be up to full rate basically within a couple days. So we're going into the winter season with our production going strong. We have one more pad to till before the end of the season or before the end of the year. And things should be good. I think the range on the production number was, yeah, there's probably going to be a little bit of – to give us a little bit of flexibility to optimize on the revenue line. But I think the biggest thing we need to focus on here is that at the end of the day, a little bit of shift in timing or a little bit of shift in production from month to month or quarter to quarter or a little bit of shift within this range. is really, you know, it's really, you know, I don't want to call it noise, but it's sort of, you know, what we need to focus on, I think, is our free cash flow that we continue to generate, you know, year over year over the seven-year plan. A little bit of production here, a little bit of production there. We're going to optimize that every day as the market conditions change, and we're going to continue to try to, you know, pull out every little bit of value that we can from our molecules. But even with conservative assumptions, Assuming we don't squeeze that extra last penny or half a cent out of each of our molecules, this company continues to generate a phenomenal amount of free cash flow over that seven-year plan.
Okay, that's helpful for sure. I just wanted to ask a question on the inventory chart that you guys showed here. When you guys look at the inventory kind of below 250, talking about 22 years. Does that assume, you know, I'm assuming maybe a fixed number of wells, you know, per year kind of over that whole period? Is that largely just comprised of Marcellus? Is the Utica also competitive at 250 or less? Any comments you can provide around that?
Yeah, so the NRVS report, which I encourage folks to get, we've talked about our inventory for a while now, and it's good to see third parties verifying what we've seen for a long time. So the basic mechanics, and like I said, the reports out there to get is they take kind of what your run rate is over the 22, 23 timeframe, and they just use that as the
proportionate amount of wells you would need to drill a year and going through on a high level it's roughly three quarters on on the marcellus side as far as how they're how they're thinking about it sub 250. okay uh very good that's helpful and then just lastly wanted to see if you guys can clarify your stock buyback um commentary uh obviously you've got some uh really nice debt reduction targets over the next couple years but certainly To your point, you know, if we don't see, I guess, commensurate stock appreciation, you guys would look at the buyback pretty hard here. Is that something that realistically could show up in 21? Or do you kind of want to get the debt down before we could look at that buyback more seriously?
I think, Leo, as we discussed, the primary focus will continue to be to reduce debt. But when you look at a 2021, there is the wherewithal. And when you look at the next three years of the $1.5 billion of free cash flow generation, $500 million a year, there is the wherewithal to reduce share count. and at a 20-plus percent free cash flow yield, if that remains, right, I would be shocked to get through 21 and not see some reduction in share count. As to how much, as to what we budget between that free cash flow on debt reduction versus share repurchases, that will all be driven by the facts and circumstances at those moments in time. So that's a quarter-by-quarter unfolding story. But, you know, we've got the wherewithal, and with the rate of returns we see on share count reduction, we see the ability to get to one-and-a-half times over the next three years on debt reduction coupled with the reduction in share count as well.
Yeah, and when you look at the magnitude of free cash flow that the business produces a quarter, right, over $100 million a quarter. So if you allocate $100 million to share conscious hypothetical, it moves your leverage ratio target date by a quarter. So net-net with the cash flow that this business produces and the certainty behind those cash flows, like I mentioned, even in a 225-9X or 70-year cash flow plan would generate $2.9 billion. There's a lot of wherewithal to... to allocate that cash along the way. But rest assured, the debt pay down is important. And we recognize that, you know, the industry and the ecosystem, it's more difficult to have, you know, debt and access to capital markets and access to the bank facilities the way the world used to be. Fortunately for us, like we've said many times, I mean, we got $2.6 billion in debt roughly. $3.4 billion is way more than the debt we carry. So, you know, we have the wherewithal to control our own destiny and pay down all of our debt if we choose and still have plenty of money left over for interesting things like share repurchases. So where we sit with inventory and cost structure and balance sheet and cash flow generation just opens up the ability to do things along the way. But as Nick mentioned, we'll be smart that pay down is prudent. We don't have much to do and feel very good about being able to be thoughtful while still accomplishing the one and a half leverage ratio without creating any risk to
Very helpful. Thank you, guys.
Our next question is from Neil Bigman from SunTrust. Go ahead.
Morning, Nick, and Nick, I just want to compliment you all on the team for the new reporting format. I think it looks really good. My first question is around your second slide. You all clearly mentioned and definitely on the prepared remarks talked about your strong inventory life. Just wondering, do you all believe that you're being adequately rewarded for this, and if not, is there things you would consider to unlock some of these significant upstream assets or even, you know, you mentioned that, you know, given the solid midstream assets as well, anything you can do on, on those side to maybe realize some of that?
Yeah, no, a couple, a couple of answers that I'm glad you asked the question. So, so on one, I mean, we've heard a lot about, you know, our inventory and maybe not being what, what other peers have. So, first off, I hope this puts that issue to bed, that CNX's inventory is best-in-class, peer-leading. If you look back over the last five years, we're really the only peer that has sold substantial amounts of undeveloped locations. There's been some people that sold royalty interest. There's been people that sold PDPs. But if you look purely at undeveloped acres, we've sold more than any of the beers. I mean, most of them are buying stuff, which I think tells you where the inventory positions really sit, who's selling acres and who's buying acres. So historically, we've sold a lot of acres. And going forward, I mean, this is something, as Nick said, we follow the math. I mean, if there's an opportunity to cash in some acres for money for acres that we're not going to drill for a while, we'll do it. We'll invest those dollars into places that are that are more appropriate. So, no, I don't think we're getting credit for our inventory as it sits today. But I think we have a track record of being thoughtful and smart around where we choose to kind of sell acres if it's something that we're not going to get to for a while.
No, great, great details. And then just one follow-up. You all have done a great job on the free cash, I think three-quarters more now in a row. And, Nick, you were stressing, and again, you guys have done a great job of highlighting the debt repayment. I guess my question is, you know, if gas prices remain high, and, you know, given you are so highly hedged with some nice hedges, I'm just wondering, in order to take advantage of continued higher prices, you know, you guys have mentioned that For the debt pay down Leo was asking on, and I know you guys had talked about share buybacks, but would you consider even potentially further growth given how just efficient you've been on operations in order to maybe get some more volumes beyond what you have hedged next year if prices remain high?
Yeah, so the two pieces, and like I said, I think, you know, one of it's the inverse of what we did this year. We shut in some production in low gas prices for, you know, a couple quarters to take advantage of the arbitrage for the high gas prices seasonality. So you could see potentially how the price strip unfolds, the opposite occurring. We could, you know, pull up a little bit of completions to take advantage of a high 21 if it doesn't flow through 22 and beyond. So the one side of this is just called a near-term gas price situation. increase, which will just optimize production. Cash flow will go up net-net, but capital over a one- to two-year period, no new activity shows up. For new activity to come into the equation, which, again, the inventory chart shows we have a tremendous amount that we can get online in an efficient manner, we'd need to see the forward strip change, not just a one-year anomaly. I mean, there's a lot of bull cases out there that I think a lot of consensus and folks have gas prices beyond $21 being $3 or $3.50. That's great. We'd love that, but we're not going to bet on it. We follow the math, as Nick said. So the Ford Strip, changes materially and gets to that level, we'll do what we've done historically, which is take some of the risk off the table via hedges and then go ahead and add activity once you have that kind of price locked in and the rate of return for incremental activity is warranted and locked in. So we watch it, but we're going to use the strip and follow the strip as opposed to call it drilling and hoping that the gas prices in the future turn out good.
And Neil, you know, just to sort of even take a further step back from Don showing you how the process and the math works. We talked about, and you referenced slide two, right? You got the inventory pull position, you got the cost pull position. That does great things for your free cash flow per share and your balance sheet. And if we just follow the math to do sound capital allocation, if we do not add activity in the seven-year plan, you can look at the next three years, you can look at the seven years in total, pick whatever time cut you want of that. But if we do not add activity from that seven-year plan, then say three years out, debt will be materially lower, share count is going to be materially lower, and free cash flow per share is going to be significantly higher. We're going to be insulated from the capital markets and all the twists and turns it takes, and we're going to be insulated from gas price volatility. That's a really, really good base case. So for me, just looking at the bigger picture... The math that we follow, I think incremental activity outside of, like Don said, a multi-year change, step change in NYMEX forward is going to have a really tough hurdle to meet when you compare it to these other things that we're able to do with the base case.
Yeah, I agree. Thanks, Nick. Thanks, Don.
Our next question is from Michael Scala from Stiefel. Go ahead.
Yeah, good morning, everybody. First question, just a clarification, Chad, based on your comments around timing, it sounds like some of the capital that was maybe originally intended for third quarter went into fourth quarter. That was a conscious decision based upon where gas prices are on management's part, or was there something operational that contributed to that as well?
Yeah, I'll start, then Chad can kind of add to it. So, you know, one part is, I mean, you've got the non-DNC side, and one of the land-type situations that was forecasted for Q3 is going to hit Q4, which, again, it's a good thing. Anytime you can keep your cash for, you know, another month or two without having an impact, that's a good thing. And the other, which we've talked a lot about, and just to kind of emphasize again, it's It's hard getting quarter-to-quarter, you know, annual cutoffs, like, perfect. Like, there's, you know, call it that's why we try to look at things as a project. And then Chad's team has more of a project management approach. And, you know, the way we run the business is more on, you know, each one of these pads are a project. So developing them that way and tracking them that way have been very successful in our execution and plan. but you get a little bit of wiggle between quarters, but nothing materially on slowdown on operations. That just kind of happens that way sometimes.
Okay, got it. And on the 21 EBITDA guidance, you increased that by $40 million. Was that strictly due to improvement in the 21 strip, or is there anything else that contributed to that?
Yeah, no, we just kind of, you know, again, not to hit it perfectly every time. I mean, I think, you know, one of the pros and cons, we're one of the only companies that are giving guidance out there in 21 and beyond. And, you know, we try to do it to help folks understand what our business looks like and give some transparency on that stuff. But it's hard to keep it continually, you know, a little bit moving here and there. So we kind of tried to market to market it with where gas prices moved. That kind of gave you where we're sitting there for, like I said in my remarks on the DNC, the capital side and on the free cashless side, we kind of left it alone for now. You can see those moving a bit. And as we transition into the year, we'll try to help bracket it a bit with ranges. So we're giving these as kind of insight to what the business looks like as a helpful tool. But these things change daily and weekly as gas prices change and slight timing differences change.
Understood. And last one for me, you look at your slide six and you guys have been focused on it for quite some time now, but you look at that pre-cash flow projection for the seven-year plan. I guess as you think about it, outside of gas prices, what do you see as the biggest risk to achieving those targets?
I think there's the obvious need to execute on a consistent quarter-in, quarter-out basis, which we've been able to do to date, and we get more and more confident moving forward. Our programmatic hedging tried to address one of the biggest risks out there, which is at least the front couple years commodity exposure risk. The capital allocation methodology de-risks doing something silly or bad with the proceeds of free cash flow that we do generate, right? If we're following the map and using sound capital allocation methodology, we should protect against that. So, and then I think last but not least, you know, the ability to control the flexibility on your capital allocation decisions because you own and control your midstream, that's something else that we work hard in 20 to address and resolve. So from my perspective, the big drivers of risk and the ability to mitigate that risk have largely been addressed or embraced as a philosophy or an approach within the company. And our expectation is to generate a 3.4 plus billion over the seven years and to use that math and that methodology to put it in the right places at the right time.
Our next question is from Kashi Harrison from Simmons Energy. Go ahead.
Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my questions. So I appreciate, you know, definitely appreciate that you're trying to transition away from industry jargon towards simple financial metrics and, you know, definitely appreciate the emphasis on operating margins. But, you know, I was just wondering if you maybe provide an update on where leading edge Marcellus and Deep Utica well costs are trending given that, you know, that has implications towards DNA, which eventually impacts operating margins.
Yeah, no, for sure. And I'm glad you asked this question. And, you know, I'll flip it over to Chad to give you some more details, but I'll kick it off at first. So the way we look at this, and, you know, there's been an overemphasis, in my opinion, on just the DNC per foot metric, you know, on the ultimate how good is a well and what's the break-even and what's the inventory. There's a whole bunch that goes into that equation. And I think on the DNC side, what you end up seeing is, I mean, we all use the same vendors. We always use, you know, use the same service providers. So you see it convergent. convergence on it you don't see a sustainable um advantage from one to the other case in point we moved to an evolution practically two years ago um and that was an advantage for us but now a lot of our peers are kind of falling suit and getting into that same zone and and working that same thing so you know the plan we've laid out um the dnc per foot as we've mentioned before we're already beating it we expect to beat it but when you look in the grand scheme of things It's not just DNC per foot. It's what are you getting out of the ground per foot. So what's your EU per foot? So how much of the dollars are you spending? Does it actually translate into production coming back up? What cheap well is a well you don't do a big completion job on? So it's easy to do a cheap well. So whenever you look at what the production is for the dollars you're spending for the well, and then triangulate that on the cost that it takes to get the production from the well to the sales point is really called the economic return you get from that pad, that well. So when we look at this, we look at those all together. And in dollar per foot, something we manage and chat, like I said, in teams have been ahead of the curve on where these efficiencies in dollar per foot have gone. But now when you look at it, just to put it in context, like $10 a foot on a DNC change for, you know, a similar UR well equates to less than a penny of F&D cost or like the charge of, you know, the first five years worth of production from that well. So it's important, but, you know, whenever you look at a $0.60 cost advantage on OPEX, you know, $10 a foot is like a penny whenever you apply it over the production of the well. But, Chad, why don't you go ahead and walk through some of the things we're doing and stuff we're hitting. And then, like I said, we're happy to share more stuff offline with Tyler, so we're not trying to change it. We're just trying to emphasize what's the big needle movers of the cash flow plan.
Yeah, so just to give you two examples of where we're at, our two most recent Marsalis pads that we brought online this quarter were, you know, the one pad was at 713 a foot, and the second pad was below 700 hours a foot. And these were right in the course with a Marsalis field. So, I mean, lateral length plays a big role in this. Focusing on NPT, focus on quality control, focus on QMS all play into this. And, frankly, there's a lot of innovation that's going on in our teams as well. When you have a very defined footprint activity level, the teams can stay focused on that. They can plan for that. They can see what's coming. and they can focus all their energy on optimizing that activity set, optimizing that opportunity, and deriving and pulling out as much value and efficiency as they can on that opportunity set. This has led to a lot of leading-edge things that we've done not only in D&C but also on facilities and midstream as well. Don already mentioned our move into evolution, and really we've made a lot of learnings with evolution over the last two years that's led to a lot of the efficiencies that we've seen on the sea side of D&C. But there's also a number of technological advances we've made on the drilling side. that, frankly, I don't want to disclose publicly because, you know, it's hard. It's so hard to maintain those competitive advantages because, as Don said, eventually there's convergence because we're all using the same service providers and crews. So sort of keep those in our back pocket as much as we can. Another great example of innovation from our team is where, you know, we combine upstream and midstream. And our midstream guys got together with the upstream guys and said – you know, why are you handling pad separation the way that you guys are? Why are GPUs, why are your gas processing units on each wellhead the same that they've been for the last 20 years? Here's how we've been handling separation on the midstream side. Let's take a look if there's something we can do there. And what we've developed is something that we've called a super separator. We've got to work with the marketing team a little bit, maybe on a little bit better brand, but we've We've received a provisional patent for it. We have IP protection for this. It's basically a step change in the way that on-pad separation is going to be conducted. We're still working through the exact numbers, but it's going to be material savings on what your on-pad facility is going to end up looking like and what they'll end up costing. It could potentially change the way that we go about flowing back our wells. So these are the examples – these are real examples of innovation that our teams are doing and how we're driving sort of the cutting-edge cost per foot and all-in capital efficiency that our teams have been able to deliver.
That's helpful. Thanks. And we'll look to the Q4 call for the super-separated details. And then on – you know, I was looking through one of the releases and – You know, it looks like maybe there was a CPA Utica well that was turned in line. I was just wondering if, you know, maybe you could discuss how that well is doing relative to the other projects in the area, or is it just, you know, maybe too early to comment?
It's too early to comment. We brought that well in line right at the beginning of the quarter. We were basically in the area performing some general service well maintenance, and while we had the snubbing unit in the area, we went ahead and drilled that well out and brought it online. We've since shut that well back in line because we are now fracking adjacent wells to that well, so we only had several weeks of production. So there's not enough data really to be able to speak to how that well's doing.
Got it, got it. And then if I could just sneak one more in. You know, there was some earlier, you know, commentary on potentially, you know, shifting projects within the seven-year plan. I just want to make sure I understand this. Can you maybe just go into some detail on how, you know, we should be thinking about the shift specifically? You know, what would you need to see on the strip before you started, you know, reallocating capital projects? And, you know, would this shift... be more related to say, you know, Marcellus Wells, Utica Wells, or is it, you know, too early to tell which projects you'd be shifting?
Yeah, no, it's more along the lines of just whether you want a little bit of lag in your drilling to completion cycle or you could shrink some up. So we do have the ability, you know, the easiest example is, you know, potentially there's a pad that would come online in, you know, December or January, December of 21 or January of 22. And for whatever reason, the 22 strip comes down, but the 21 strip stays high. We have some flexibility in our system that instead of trying to get that pad done in December, we'll get it done in April. So net-net, your capital over the 2021 timeframe or 2021-2022 timeframe doesn't change, but some of that completions capital that might have ended up falling into 2022 falls into 2021. But net-net, you're way better off from a free cash flow perspective for the same capital because you got that well online in a better price environment sooner. So that's sort of the way to think about it. It's just if there's a little bit of slack to get a pat on a couple months sooner, do you take it or not?
And just to sort of, again, take a bigger step back, Tashi, the way we think of the seven-year plan in total, we keep referencing this as sort of the free cash flow per share factory, right? And that requires effectively a rig and a frack crew to set up across those seven years in our core areas with those great sort of inventory metrics at different gas price stacks. That generates the free cash flow. We certainly want to either optimize that to grow it within that activity set or de-risk it. And what Don is talking about to your question is to do one of those two things, right? You either de-risk it and you increase the likelihood of the free cash flow coming home to roost, or you create some upside because of some pricing arbitrage within a year or a two-year period. But the overall activity set cumulatively does not change. And the reason we don't anticipate that changing right now is when you look at what we do with the free cash flow generation, there are some pretty awesome opportunities out there in the form of debt reduction and share count reduction. So again, until something changes, On the macro input assumptions, it would change the math that we're following, i.e., multi-year gas price change or share price change or something like that. Our view is we keep that activity pace as is over the seven years. We optimize it pad to pad, quarter to quarter, as we see opportunities to either de-risk it or slightly improve it incrementally. And then we deploy that free cash flow as best we can see today sitting here into debt and share count.
Super helpful. Thanks, guys.
Our next question is from Tim Kumar from Fargo. Go ahead.
Hi, good morning. It's Nitin Kumar from Wells Fargo. Nick, I appreciate the comments around having the wherewithal to reduce both debt and share count. You haven't talked about dividends, and I'm curious, how are you prioritizing potential return of cash flow between dividends and buybacks. You focus a lot on buybacks. I'm just really curious, why not talk about a dividend?
I think dividends are, I mean, obviously that's an option for enhancing the intrinsic per share value of the company and shareholder return. So we're not against that as a vehicle to consider. I will say when we look at our seven-year plan, dividends are probably something that's worth considering on the second half of the seven-year plan. The reason I say that is that right now when you look at the rate of return tie, basically the risk-adjusted rate of return tie to a share buyback, it is significant. And you also have sort of the other sort of competing advantages with share buybacks where you give the individual owner the choice of whether they want to sell or hold. With that rate of return, I think that's a very difficult hurdle to overcome. Now, again, things change, right? So not only will gas prices change, at some point share price changes, etc., And we've still got this free cash flow factory, right, free cash flow per share machine that we've built. So dividends, as I said, down the road, probably on the back half of the seven-year plan, it's something I think we keep an eye on. We see where these different metrics and input assumptions go, and it's definitely a tool in the toolbox that we should always be open-minded and willing to consider. But right now, I don't see that front and center being able to compete with debt reduction and or share account reduction.
Great. Appreciate the call, Alex. I want to touch on your opening remarks. You had mentioned a very volatile next 90 days, and you specifically mentioned the election. Could you help us understand, specific to CNX and maybe the Appalachia Basin, what are the risks that you see from the upcoming election and just maybe the regulatory landscape?
Yeah, I think, again, this is maybe somewhat opinion. I don't know if anybody really knows the answers to these things, but if you just look at what's going on with the equity markets the last week or so and probably what's going to be happening for the coming weeks, a lot of it's attributed to COVID, and certainly COVID and COVID incident rate and infection rate is certainly a driver of all that, and it's ticking up, right? But you've also got a lot of election uncertainty. I think it's buried within this volatility. And election uncertainty just with respect to even the process itself and what happens on November 3rd or the night of November 3rd versus weeks down the road. So I think that's, you know, spooking and creating volatility across a lot of these capital markets. I don't think it's necessarily unfounded, but I think we need to be ready for it. And I think we positioned the company to be able to be ready for just about anything. So if you look at Q4 as an example, the one right front and center to us, basically no matter what happens in Q4 with respect to COVID, elections, gas prices, global GDP, all those things, we are going to generate free cash flow. And when you look at 2021, same story. So we position the company not just to navigate through these things, but as I said in the comments, to really thrive in those situations where disconnects may occur. And I just sense that when you net everything out, the next 90 days, 2020 has already been an unbelievably interesting year. Sometimes that interest has been on the bad side of things. I think the next 90 are just going to be as interesting as 2020 to date.
So just to clarify, there's no specific regulatory changes that you're aware of. You know, like for guys in New Mexico, it's about federal land or something like that. You're not looking at anything for the Appalachia?
No. Now, what happens with respect to the regulatory environment long term, that's more of a 2021 as we see what happens in November and then what shapes up for 2021 agendas, et cetera. But time will tell on that.
Thank you for the answers.
Our next question is from Jeffrey Campbell from Tui Brothers. Go ahead.
Good morning. My first question refers to slide three. I just want to know, am I reading it correctly, that ENX has no inventory above $3 per million BTU? And if that's correct, does this illustrate any PA Utica inventory outside of Southwest PA? Okay.
I think just the above $3 doesn't have a color code to it. So, you know, once you get above $3, I mean, you can put all of our CVM locations in there too. So, I mean, this was just to highlight near medium term, you know, up to $3. But like I said, that inverse report is out there. It's a good read. I encourage you to get it. But, no, we have plenty of inventory up above that too.
Okay. And thinking about future capital allocation, I think you've said in the past that central Utica can actually be competitive with the Marcellus with significant infrastructure investment. I'm just wondering, is there a variable within the seven-year plan to begin that sort of investment, or is that something that's going to happen after the seven-year plan?
No, I mean, I think it is competitive when you look at the DNC and you look at the EUR and you look at the cost. Like, again, the three-legged stool here, some folks get hung up on DNC per foot, but DNC per foot, EUR per foot, and actually cost to get the gas from the well to the sales point. You put all three together. CPA unit looks great. Yes, we would need more infrastructure to do a meaningful growth in that region. And as we said in the call up front and in some of the questions, we need to see the Ford gas strip justified. So, net-net, you know, if you look, we did a tremendous build-out in Southwest PA, hedged a bunch to make sure that we got the returns justified from the infrastructure build-out and the cost position. And, you know, a lot of the seven-year free cash flow you're seeing here today is because of the investments that we put into the business over the course of, you know, several years prior to today. So, I think you could see something similar there, but, you know, net-net scale-wise, We build out all the infrastructure we need in Southwest PA, you know, for, I don't know, $300 million or so for the midstream side. So whenever you're producing $3.4 billion, if you want to do an investment in a midstream infrastructure to unlock, you know, the next cash flow manufacturing, you know, factory, which could be up there, we got it well within our wherewithal to do in any number of different ways. And that's, you know, could be partnering with another company. A midstream service provider could be doing it ourselves. I mean, the flexibility that we have just opens up a ton of opportunities. And we've been able to partner with some of our midstream kind of counterparts since we got half peers that are midstream and half peers that are upstream. So we've cooperated with midstream peers, and we'll continue to do that going forward. And we've got a lot of interesting opportunities having that midstream as a part of our business, which others don't.
Yeah, so we've got the seven-year plan that generates $3, $3.5 billion in free cash flow over seven years. and it does so primarily utilizing Southwest PA Marsalis acreage. There's a sprinkling of some Utica in there, but by majority, it is SWPPP and Marsalis. That doesn't, you know, to Don's point, there's some infrastructure investment that will have to happen to unlock that CPA Utica, but that CPA Utica is just sitting there waiting to either be accelerated if justified by gas prices and our capital allocation decisions, We're sitting there to tack on the tail to seven years and continue generating significant free cash flow year over year beyond the seven-year window we've already provided. So it provides a lot of optionality, a lot of flexibility, and it's sitting there as one of our options in our capital allocation decisions.
Okay, thanks for that, Collar. My last question is, when we combine the presentation slides and Nick's commentary, Sounds like CNX M&A in Appalachia is fairly unlikely with the hurdles that have to be jumped. I was just wondering, have you guys cast your net outside of the basin in your investigations, or has that already been eliminated by due diligence?
Yeah, Jeff, I think we've got too much M&A within our company to get to right now, and Like you said, I think you summed up the in-basin view pretty well, and outside of basin, even riskier, right, even more subject to unknowns. So we don't give much thought beyond the basin and beyond what we're doing within our seven-year plan. Okay, great.
Thank you.
Our next question is from Holly Stewart from Scotia Howard Vale. Go ahead.
Good morning, gentlemen. Maybe just a couple of follow-ups. First, Nick, you made some comments about M&A. I couldn't tell, are those comments really directed at being the consolidator or the consolidatee? It sounded like you were addressing your thoughts on inventory and cost structure as a consolidator, but I just wanted to ask if those applied to being a consolidatee as well.
I think there were two sort of components of the comments, Holly. One was with respect to us acquiring more of what I would call assets within Basin. Those acquisition opportunities right now, we don't see them competing with the risk-adjusted rate of return of something like a share count reduction opportunity or let alone debt reduction. So on the sort of putting free cash flow to work or liquidity to work to acquire assets, with what we've got in front of us in the seven-year plan and our opportunity set. Don't see that competing right now. On the second sort of grouping of the metrics we laid out, that's with respect to combinations. You can call us the acquirer or the acquiree. It's basically a combination thought. And under any combination theory, right, the inventory, you don't want to dilute. The cost structure, you don't want to dilute by raising it. Your balance sheet, you don't want to weaken because of unused FT and or leverage or negative free cash flows. And your free cash flow per share and your free cash flow yield, you don't want to damage that. Those are the drivers that put us in the pole position.
Yeah, and, you know, said differently, like our main goal is to create long-term value for our shareholders. And we have a base seven-year plan that is – set up to do just that. So, anything that you would look at to put yourself in a better position than your current one. So, our ultimate goal is to create long-term value for our shareholders, and for the CNX shareholders, we have a lot of work to do to do that in our seven-year plan, and you wouldn't want to put CNX shareholders in a place that's not as good as the place you already have.
Yep. Yep. Okay. That makes sense. Maybe just one follow-up really on kind of the macro supply dynamics. We've seen some, obviously, changes happening given the consolidation. So no more Shell, right? No more Chevron, Southwestern consolidating montage. You know, how do you see sort of the supply dynamics in the basin changing just given all that consolidation? I say all that, but the consolidation that we've seen thus far?
No, that's a good question. So I think some of these, you know, it goes back to some of the other comments about sort of, you know, inventory and acquisitions and what motivates, you know, some of our peers to acquire and what are the factors involved. I think if you're going out and paying a premium or you're potentially diluting your existing shareholders in order to pick up more inventory, you're going to need to derive value from that pickup in order to, you know, keep your existing shareholders sort of neutral. So I know there's a lot of talk about remaining disciplined and picking up inventory to be the rationalized supply, but I think there's going to be pressure from some of these folks to be able to, you know, show value for what it is that they've acquired. So what that means long-term, I think that, I think with the price, the local prices we're seeing and IMAX prices we're seeing and some of these consolidation moves, I think there's going to be some real pressure on some of our peers to be able to to sort of grow some supply. Now, whether or not they have the cash or the capital to be able to do so is still sort of to be determined.
Yeah, and I think, you know, ultimately folks seem to be on the capital discipline and supply discipline. We hope that's where everybody kind of stays and sort of sticks to. That has kind of been something, you know, kind of kicked about before that it hasn't always actually resulted in capital discipline and supply discipline. You know, we hope this time it's different, and, you know, the cash flow we generate, if that's true, just goes up materially. But, you know, as we've found out and everyone's found out, it is really hard to predict with, you know, what hundreds of companies are going to do, and that's what kind of creates the supply stack if you look across the United States. And couple that with, you know, the recent 21 gas bull thesis was mostly derived by an OPEC fight and a COVID-19 global pandemic. So, I mean, these things are just really, really hard to predict. So we try to, you know, to Nick's point, keep it simple. We know if we're by far the lowest cost and best inventory and got a strong balance sheet, we'll do very, very well at the strip at $240, $250 gas. We'll do very, very well at $225 in that mix. And if the world gets better at $3, great, we're all for it. We hope that folks stay disciplined and gas prices go up.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Thank you, guys. Our next question is from David Hankinen from Hankinen Energy Advisors. Go ahead.
Good morning, and Holly asked a good question. But I have a question on your commentary of the political environment in Pennsylvania that sounded contrary to some of the perspective we've heard from other public and private operators as they're considering really the political risks of Pennsylvania assets could be the next environmental target behind Colorado, and having more Ohio and West Virginia might be better. Do you have any thoughts around that, or is that they're reading too much into your comments on the political environment?
I hope I didn't give you the inference through what I said, that there's a concern with respect to Pennsylvania losing the natural gas industry. That's certainly not the case. If anything, if you look at what's... Oh, no, not that, being a target.
I mean, losing is an extreme, but being a target is a risk that you would try to mitigate. So please don't go down the losing path.
Yeah, I'm still not understanding the question. From a Pennsylvania regulatory perspective, we don't see any material change that's being bannered about or coming down the pike. If you look at the last five to ten years of what's happened within the Commonwealth and the natural gas industry, it has grown exponentially, and that growth – is I think more importantly correlated to a lot of inclusion across different facets of the economy and the state with respect to that growth itself. So initially, right, everybody focused on landowners and multigenerational farms and things like that that got a benefit via the land grab phase. But when you look at the employment side of things, the employment has become much more organic within the state. Used to have not long ago a lot of sort of expertise and disciplines coming from Oklahoma and Texas, etc., That's now basically taken root in-state, and what you're seeing with respect to jobs are kids either coming out of high schools or people already in the workforce, right, the older workforce getting into the industry. You've seen all the downstream service economies sort of feeding off of this. You've seen a resurgence of manufacturing in Pennsylvania that's feeding off the feedstocks and the low-cost side of the energy side of the equation, which is big for manufacturers. And you've seen basically the local governments and the state government benefiting from this through the impact fee. And that's up to billions of dollars since it's been created. So I think Pennsylvania has sort of been an example of a well-integrated growth story with respect to natural gas and how it's a fundamental sort of building block of an economy.
Okay, so West Virginia equals Pennsylvania equals Ohio from a risk assessment. Or maybe it's even better.
Yeah, northern Appalachia. pretty much a Western Ohio, Western PA, Northern West Virginia context.
Can you help on some simple math of just reconciling what the market must be factoring in to your $2.9 billion of true free cash flow over seven years versus your market cap in EV? I think you tried to hit that with the Inverness inventory assessment. But I'm just trying to see if there's anything other than inventory that you hear that that makes people question that gap between $2.9 billion and a $4.3-ish billion EV?
Can you help us with that? Yeah, I'll start, Nick, and weigh in. So I think, you know, ironically, the folks that actually spend time on us and study us well ask me sort of that same question all the time. And I think... Two things. The ecosystem hasn't caught up to us on how much we have changed over the last several years in regards to cost and cash flow generation, inventory, you name it. I mean, it hasn't caught up to us. So part of it is, you know, if you look at just coverage, like we're one of the least coverage from research analysts, you know, out there, which is absolutely crazy. Since we've been a standalone E&P, we're the number one performer. Like we built the model that everybody in the ecosystem is like clamoring that they want to see built. But the ecosystem hasn't caught up to this yet. A lot of the major research shops haven't even started covering us, for example. Second, when you get into this, the ecosystem hasn't started valuing companies off of free cash flow. You still see EBITDA multiples, which in a high capital intensity business, that you've got to spend capital to stay the same. EBITDA multiples are just not an efficient way to look at companies. But if you look historically, there wasn't free cash flow being generated by companies. So that was the only metric that folks could use to compare separate companies. I think as we move into the next phase, if the ecosystem catches up to the phase that they're trying to say that we're going to move into, which is free cash flow generation and return to shareholders, our free cash flow yield is going to get attention. Your free cash flow yield, ironically, can only be high, trade, and bad. That's kind of what we're saying. The opportunity right now is tremendous for a new investor in a CNX. And as Nick said, if folks take a little longer to catch up to it, we'll invest in ourselves. I mean, it's there. The numbers are there. The ecosystem hasn't caught up. And, you know, we'll keep printing quarters and do good things with the money. And hopefully the ecosystem catches up to us.
And, you know, broader picture, over seven years, 3.4 billion of legitimate free cash flow. I look at it this way. If the yield doesn't change, as we talked about this, I think, on an earlier question, if you project out three years of the front seven, our debt's going to be material lower, our share count will be substantially lower, and our free cash flow per share is going to be significantly higher. And we're going to be insulated from the various nuanced twists and turns of the commodity space in the capital markets. That's a base case. that one way or another will rectify what we're talking about here.
It is the fixed plus variable dividend that year three plus would be something you might include in your plan just for the peanut gallery. I do think that is resonating, particularly in the larger cap space. So thank you for answering my questions and your perspective.
This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Tyler Lewis for closing remarks.
Thank you, and we appreciate everyone joining us this morning. If you have any follow-on questions, please feel free to reach out. Otherwise, we look forward to speaking with everyone again next quarter. Thank you.
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation.
