CNX Resources Corporation

Good morning and welcome to the CNX Resources third quarter 2025 Q&A conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's remarks, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Tyler Lewis. Please go ahead.

Thanks, and good morning, everybody. Welcome to CNX's third quarter Q&A conference call. Today, we will be answering questions related to our third quarter results. This morning, we posted to our investor relations website an updated slide presentation that and detailed third quarter earnings release data, such as quarterly E&P data, financial statements, and non-GAAP reconciliations, which can be found in a document titled 3Q-2025, Earnings Results and Supplemental Information of CNX Resources. Also, we posted to our investor relations website our prepared remarks for the quarter, which we hope everyone had a chance to read before the call, as the call today will be used exclusively for Q&A. With me today for Q&A are Nick Deulius, our Chief Executive Officer, Alan Shepard, our President and Chief Financial Officer, and Navneet Bell, our Chief Operating Officer. Please note that the company's remarks made during this call, including answers to questions, include forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, and our actual results may differ materially as a result of many factors. A discussion of risks and uncertainties related to those factors in CNX's business is contained in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in the release issued today. With that, thank you for joining us this morning, and operator, can you please open the call for Q&A at this time?

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Our first question comes from Zach Parham from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Thanks for taking my questions. First, Nick, congrats and good luck in your retirement. And, Alan, congrats on your new role. Thanks, Matt. First off. First off, just wanted to ask on the buyback. You had a sizable buyback during 3Q. It was the highest since, I think, 4Q22. Can you talk about what drove that uptick in buybacks and how you think about the pace of the buyback going forward?

Yeah, I think the primary driver was the significant free cash flow generator in terms of what we were able to do for the quarter. Our underlying process for evaluating whether or not we're doing buybacks versus other capital allocation opportunities hasn't changed. We continue to view the business valuation very attractive relative to its intrinsic value.

Thanks. And then my follow-up, just wanted to ask on the Utica acquisition that you made on the Apex acreage, could you give us a little more color there? Do you now have Utica rights across the position? If not, are you looking to make other acquisitions where you could get more Utica rights on that acreage?

Yeah. If you recall, when we did that acquisition, there was about 30,000 Marcellus acres, kind of the footprint for the whole asset. And it came with about 8,000 Utica rights. So what that transaction represents is we really went out there and got the remaining unleashed Utica rights that underlied that footprint for APEC. So now we're able to go back in and leverage all that infrastructure, kind of like we envisioned when we did the acquisition.

Thanks. I appreciate the callers.

The next question comes from Leo Mariani from Roth. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. I wanted to see if there's any type of update on new tech here. Specifically, I was just curious if there's any update on kind of the oil field service auto set business, perhaps the CNG kind of LNG business and or just status of 45Z as you guys see it.

Yeah, so let's start with 45Z. So we're still in the period where we're waiting for the notice of final rulemaking on 45Z, and we expect that before the end of the year. And then there'll be a comment period and a finalization of that rule, hopefully in the early first half of 2026. All that's subject to the government reopening and things like that. But once we have that, the expectation is that the guidance we provided last quarter on 45Z, that 30 million a year run rate, will be sort of confirmed with that guidance. In terms of oil field services, you know, we have outsourced sort of the operational part of that to our partner on that, and they're continuing to make progress in rolling out those different technologies, but nothing material in sort of the current quarter for 26 as of yet.

Okay. And just in terms of, you know, the plans as we roll, you know, into next year, just at a high level, you know, it sounds like the company still wants to stay in maintenance mode, should we expect production is not a whole lot different in 26, and would that be similar for spending as well? How are you guys thinking about that?

Yeah, I mean, we'll give you the full detail on the guidance when we get to January, but generally, you know, I would expect to see maintenance mode, right? We're still going into winter, full storage, and we'll see what kind of weather we get this winter, and we need to see some of these longer-term calls on gas develop before you'd be thinking about doing anything other than that.

Okay, that makes sense, and Just on M&A, obviously you guys sold a little asset, bought another asset, seems kind of longer-term neutral on cash, but just what's the company's appetite in general for deals? Do you see other things you'd like to pick up in Appalachia, and perhaps there's other Utica deals out there that you guys would like to consider?

Yeah, we look at everything that comes to market, but, you know, our threshold is acquiring ourselves, right? So unless there's an opportunity that outcompetes that opportunity, you won't see us do anything, right? So that's sort of how we think about it, but, you know, we're certainly open to anything. That's the math. Okay.

Thank you, guys.

The next question comes from Noah Hungness from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Morning, guys. Just for my first question here, I was just hoping you could kind of unpack some of the moving pieces on your free cash flow guidance. Even when you take out the asset, the additional asset sales, it looks like free cash flow guide is roughly flat to where it was before, even though the adjusted EBITDAX guide moved down and CapEx moved up. I was just hoping to unpack some of the moving parts there.

Yeah, so the way to think about that is our free cash flow guidance includes all working capital adjustments, right? So if you try to take just EBITDA and CapEx, you've got to account for sort of fluctuations in AR and AP. I mean, we give you a sort of rough number to target for, and we try not to move that number around a bunch, but you're going to see movements like you see here where we're refining guidance throughout the year, but we're still confident we'll be kind of the range we guide it to, 575 pre-asset sale number.

That makes sense. And then on the Utica acquisition here in Pennsylvania, could you maybe talk about, are there any requirements for drilling on that acreage next year? Or is there any acreage that may be expiring near term that you'll want to drill on to hold it?

Yeah, so, I mean, we plan to develop the field. Obviously, that's part of the underwriting case for making the investment. The exact timing of that development, I'm not going to get into at this point, but you'll see that folded into our development plan in the years ahead. Okay, thank you.

The next question comes from Michael Sciala from Stevens. Please go ahead.

Good morning. I had a couple questions on the Utica project. I guess as you think about next year's plan, is there any thought about trying to delineate the play any more with wells maybe further north or further south, or you plan to stay kind of in that area that you've been developing so far?

Yeah, I think the plan for next year is really just focused on sort of the operational side of it, right? Nav and team have done a great job sort of driving down costs, and we want to give them a couple more opportunities to do that. We're pretty confident that we have a view on where the fairway is, so I don't think there's a burning desire to do much exploration either north or south.

Yeah, I can add to that. Sorry, go ahead.

No, go ahead. Go ahead, Nef.

Yeah, I think we're pretty confident in our geological model, so our plan is to just step up the development of the play.

Makes sense. Wanted to see in terms of well costs, where do you see the opportunities there? You could require a different rig, and if so, you've been just running one rig most of the year. Are there further efficiencies that could be had by keeping a rig running continuously in that place?

Yeah, so if you think about it, I'll let Nav get into the details on rigs and things like that, but just at a real high level, you know, the efficiency, they're all on the drilling side, right? The completions is sort of pretty well known at this point. So what they're focused on is getting drilling days down. So maybe Nav, talk about that a little bit.

Yeah. Like the rigs that we have right now are fully capable of drilling the deep Eureka. We don't have any issues with that. And Over the last 12 months or so, we've made really huge strides on the drilling side. We've been able to increase the efficiency of drilling the whole well. And I've cut down the days on the pad pretty much. And basically, on the drilling side, our drilling operations are pretty steady. They're very repeatable. And best of all, we are improving and making up big efficiency gains to get the well down faster and reduce our cost. So as, right?

Yeah, in terms of guidance on the cost per foot, we're still at that sort of $1,750 range for right now.

Yeah. And then just to kind of add to that, like last year, our drilling cost on Utica were like about $2,200 a foot. So we are down almost 20% to $1,750 per foot.

Sounds good. Thank you, guys. The next question comes from Jacob Roberts from TPH. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Good morning. I wanted to start on the well outperformance that we've seen over the past several quarters. I'm curious if you could provide some color on if this is a function of better than expected declines on older vintages. Is this better new well performance? And how durable do you think these results are and how that translates to your longer term capital efficiency plans?

Yeah, I think for this year, you're seeing two things, right? There's some outperformance on the Apex assets we acquired in particular. It's kind of the big pad that we brought in right when we acquired it. And then you're seeing outperformance on some of the new pods that got converted this year. You know, in terms of long-term performance and capital efficiency ratios and things like that, that's, you know, remains to be seen. But we're, you know, our focus is not on that, right? You know, we're still in this sort of flat production mode and focused on generating as much free cash flow as possible.

Great, thank you. And then maybe if I could just ask your opinion on current in-basin demand and power generation and all that, you know, topic du jour and your thoughts there and ability to participate perhaps.

Yeah, and we're still long-term extremely bullish, you know, on the prospect for AI generated new demand coming to the basin. Obviously, we sit on an enormous resource base here that can be developed. Still in the early innings, still a lot of talk with folks about developing some of these projects, but can't say exactly when it's going to occur, but it definitely, you know, all the math suggests that, you know, Appalachia and all the gas up here needs to be part of that mix moving forward.

Jacob, just to add to what Alan said, the other issue underneath all of this that sometimes gets lost with the excitement of AI demand and in-basin demand is the increasingly obvious need for additional pipeline infrastructure. to get these low-cost BTUs and molecules from this basin, not just within the basin, but to wherever else the demand centers may be. So until that happens, AI sort of demand gets fulfilled in basin from our perspective. And then if that infrastructure gets built, other regions across the nation can start to participate more wholesomely in this AI revolution.

All right. Thanks, guys. Appreciate the time.

The next question comes from David Dekelbaum from TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

I just wanted to echo the sentiments as congratulations to Nick and Alan. Just also wanted to ask on the activity for the fourth quarter, you have the frat crew coming back to work. Still wanted to get some color on the timing of the tills. It seemed like the guidance had been more of a December timeframe. I think last quarter when we checked in, The macro perhaps seemed a little bit more precarious, and perhaps now things are tightening up a little bit. So how do you guys think about that in terms of turning on new volumes into the winter season here?

Yeah, so we started the frat cruise. I think we mentioned the prepared remarks kind of that October timeframe. So the expectation on those tills would be sometime in December. So it'll be later in the quarter. You know, in terms of the macro for 26, things have kind of settled into a trading range. But, you know, we're still not to the part of winter yet where you can have a good kind of read on where we're going to exit winter. So we'll see. But, you know, I think activity is going to look sort of like it did last year, right, where you have a concentration of completion activities in Q4 and Q1. And then you set up yourself to be able to be flexible in 26 to respond to whatever sort of pricing environment develops.

Appreciate that. My follow-up is just, obviously, you guys crossed a couple of deals this quarter. It seems like the basin in general, that there's been a lot more land spent through all your piers right now. I guess, can you just generally speak to that environment right now, or are we just seeing a lot more horse trading or folks kind of? willing to transact on single zone areas. It seems like we should be underwriting perhaps a larger land spend in the 26 timeframe and perhaps beyond as maybe these opportunities are increasing.

Yeah. So maybe I'm not going to speak to the activities of, you know, some of the peers that happened down in West Virginia and Ohio, but definitely in central PA, you know, where we're focused on sort of the deep Utica development in the longterm, you just see more interest as folks start to understand the sort of potential of the reservoir, some of the transactions we've seen up there. You kind of have a moment in time here where there's an opportunity to pick up some of the acres that still may be open or held by folks that are looking to deal with some of the more consolidated players in the area.

I appreciate that. And just to confirm real quick, the acres that you sold out of the Marcellus rights, are those areas where you've already developed Utica or those are areas that you intend to develop Utica in the future?

Those would be the Ohio areas where we've already developed the Utica.

Appreciate it, guys. Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. And our next question comes from Betty Jiang from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I want to ask about the, it's pretty small, but in the guidance, the increase in the non-DNC capital, what's driving that? And And as I'm hearing just more focus on deep Utica development going forward, is there a need for facility infrastructure spend going forward for you to optimize development there?

Yeah, so maybe for your first question, in terms of just the $7 million bump to the midpoint there, that's really just timing. I mean, we build all of our midstream and water infrastructure, so sometimes you're just talking about a project sliding around three months or so, something like that. So it's really just noise on that front. Longer term, the way we think about infrastructure development as we move to central PA, because our decline rates are so low, there will need to be additional infrastructure, but it's not going to be anywhere near the scale that you saw last decade, the sort of midstream build-out cycles that occurred. We're talking about adding a handful of pads a year, so you're able to to really just sort of meter out that spend at a different pace from what we've seen historically.

Yeah, and I can add to that comment too is, as I told earlier, that we're pretty confident of the model. So we will just be moving from pad, which are contiguous to each other. And so our infrastructure spend just will be like a little bit of additional infrastructure rather than, you know, in a delineation model where you have to like delineate the wells and build a whole fairway model. So we are getting into a more, efficient infrastructure spend, which won't change from year to year. It'll be pretty steady, just like we have our drilling program.

Got it. So non-DNC cutback is percent of total probably going to be fairly steady.

I mean, it won't be anything like last decade. There'll be periods where you maybe need to add a station or something like that, but it's nothing... nothing on the scale of last year. And as Nat pointed out, the goal is to be as efficient as possible with that spend, given that we're able to kind of do return trips and have a focused development plan that just kind of steps out as opposed to needing to go to the extreme end of a field and build infrastructure to that part of it.

Right. My follow-up is on the, back to the Utica development. I know there's been many questions asked around that, but what I'm hearing is, The focus is really trying to get the per foot cost down. And as we have seen in the past with clay development, it's just about steady state development and park a rig there and optimize and reduce drill time. And with one rig running, it just seems that's not moving between the southwest and central. That's just not the most efficient way. Is there a possibility for us to start seeing like one dedicated rig being allocated to the Utica to maximize that efficiency?

Yeah, I think you nailed it. Like this industry is incredible. The engineers in the industry are incredible when it comes to optimizing development. Once you've given up reps at any particular project, you know, we do try to align our development plans so that we go back to back sort of on those types of paths. But we will have, you know, Southwest PA wells develop next year as well. So it all gets taken into consideration. But your broader point is the right one that, you know, we're at 1,750 per foot right now is what we got into. And, you know, my expectation would be that we're able to drive that down as the engineers do what they do.

And then to add to that, like, you know, most of our pad development, we have like three to four wells that we are testing right now, especially with the spacing of 1,300 and 1,500 feet. So us being on a three and a four well pad leads to a lot more efficiency than it would otherwise appear in other place. So our team is actually making progress almost like section by section, and that's why you see the 20% reduction in costs. And that will continue to be there, right? So we will focus on increasing drilling efficiency and reducing the cost no matter what. And that's the advantage that we have in CNX with the acreage position we have right now.

Great. Helpful color. Thank you.

There are no more questions in the queue. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tyler Lewis for any closing remarks.

Great. Thank you. Thank you again for joining us this morning. Please feel free to reach out if anyone has any additional questions. Otherwise, we'll look forward to speaking with everyone again next quarter. Thank you.

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