Capri Holdings Limited

Greetings and welcome to the Capri Holdings Limited Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jennifer Davis, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on Capri Holdings Limited's second quarter fiscal 23 conference call. With me this morning are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer John Idle and Chief Financial and Chief Operating Officer Tom Edwards. Before we begin, let me remind you that certain statements made on today's call may constitute forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from those we expect. Those risks and uncertainties are described in today's press release and in the company's SEC filings, which are available on the company's website. Investors should not assume that the statements made during this call will remain operative at a later time, and the company undertakes no obligation to update any information discussed on the call. Unless otherwise noted, all financial information on today's call will be presented on a non-GAAP basis. These non-GAAP measures exclude certain costs associated with COVID-19 related charges, ERP implementation costs, CAPRI transformation costs, impairment charges, restructuring, and other charges. To view the corresponding GAAP measures and related reconciliation, please view the earnings release posted on our website earlier today at capriholdings.com. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. John Eidolf, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. John?

Thank you, Jennifer, and good morning, everyone. We were pleased with our second quarter performance as Capri Holdings delivered strong revenue growth and record earnings per share. Results were driven by momentum across all three of our luxury houses, reflecting the continued execution of our strategic initiatives as well as the power of our brands. While we remain confident in our long-term growth potential, we are now more cautious in our revenue outlook for the remainder of fiscal 2023 due to an increasingly uncertain macroeconomic environment, foreign currency headwinds, and the ongoing impact of COVID-related restrictions in China. Accordingly, we will carefully manage our business by focusing on profitability and controlling expenses. Despite near-term headwinds, we will remain focused on executing the strategic initiatives that we presented at our recent investor day to drive sustainable future growth. Before turning to second quarter results, I would like to welcome Emanuel Ginsberger, as our new Chief Executive Officer of Versace. He has a proven track record of building global fashion luxury houses. We believe his experience and vision for Versace will help us further accelerate our growth plans and strengthen our strategic initiatives. We look forward to you getting to know him in the future. Now, Turning to second quarter performance, revenue was in line with our expectations, increasing 9% on a reported basis and 18% in constant currency. Operating margin of 19.8% was above our expectations, reflecting better than anticipated gross margin and diligent expense management. We delivered record second quarter earnings per share of $1.79. In terms of customer acquisition, we added more than 12 million new names across our databases versus the prior year. This is the largest year-over-year increase in our history, demonstrating the strength and desirability of our brands. Now looking at second quarter group revenue trends by geography. In the Americas, revenue increased 15% with double-digit growth across all of our houses driven by sustained demand for luxury products. In EMEA, revenue increased 3% on a reported basis and 20% in constant currency. This was driven by strong growth across all our houses benefiting from robust domestic consumer demand, as well as an increase in travel. In Asia, revenue decreased 2% on a reported basis, but increased 12% in constant currency. This reflects strong results in Japan and Southeast Asia. With mainland China revenue down in the high teens, and down low double digit in constant currency. Moving to second quarter revenue trends by brand. Starting with Versace. We were pleased with the brand's performance as revenue and operating margin were ahead of our expectations. Revenue increased 9% on a reported basis and 28% on a constant currency compared to prior year as we continue to execute on our strategic initiatives and consumers responded to Donatella's bold and fearless design vision. Turning to product, starting with accessories, which are a key component of our growth strategy. Women's accessory sales in our retail channel increased approximately 60% versus prior year. We are gaining traction by focusing on our existing pillars of La Medusa and Virtuos while expanding the assortment with the launch of Grecca Goddess. We are pleased with the initial response to our new Grecca pillar. With these three pillars, La Medusa, Virtuos, and Grecca, we are making significant progress in our goal to position Versace as a leading luxury leather house. Another component of our growth strategy is to expand women's footwear. Versace continued to gain authority as a women's luxury footwear brand as we expanded our core offering focused on iconic coats. Second quarter sales in our retail channel were strong, driven by styles featuring a range of Versace codes, including Greca and Medusa. In women's and men's ready-to-wear, consumers embraced the La Greca pattern as well as new Barocco prints. We also continued to expand our core lines, which incorporate iconic house codes to broaden Versace's reach. Moving to brand awareness. and consumer engagement. Versace continued to deepen consumer desire through powerful storytelling. The house's fall 2022 campaign, which was shot in Rome, starred Lily James embracing Versace's Italian heritage and runway glamour. Additionally, Versace was among the top engaged Italian fashion brands on social media during Milan Fashion Week. The spring 2023 show was inspired by Donatella's vision of the modern Versace woman who is both bold and glamorous. The show generated over 23 million views globally and was the most mentioned show online during Milan Fashion Week. Now turning to Asia. Versace restaged the fall 2022 fashion show in Bangkok, Thailand, coinciding with the launch of the fall collection. Celebrities, models, and influencers attended the event and generated nearly 50 million impressions across social media. The combination of these brand-building activities and our data analytics capabilities led to an increased consumer acquisition, driving 40% year-over-year growth in Versace's global database. Overall, Versace's strong second quarter results speak to the strength of the brand and the success of our strategic initiatives, reinforcing our confidence in the luxury house's long-term growth potential. Moving to Jimmy Choo. We were pleased with the second quarter results. Revenue was in line with our expectations, and operating margin was better than anticipated. Revenue increased 4% on a reported basis and 15% in constant currency compared to prior year as we continued to execute on our strategic initiatives and consumers responded to Sandra Choi's glamorous design vision. Turning to product, one of Jimmy Choo's key strategies is to expand accessories. Women's accessories sales in our retail channel increased over 30% in the second quarter. Our iconic bonbon continued to perform well and we expanded our Varenne family with the launch of Varenne Avenue. We were pleased with the early response to Avenue and sales have exceeded our expectations. Another key product strategy for Jimmy Choo is to maximize our casual opportunity. Casual footwear sales in our retail channel increased strong double digits. driven by strong performance of the new Diamond Light Maxi with its unique platform sole that resembles diamonds set in stone. Moving to brand awareness and consumer engagement. Jimmy Choo continues to drive consumer acquisition and engagement by combining storytelling and data analytics. We are excited to feature Kendall Jenner as the face of Jimmy Choo's new Fall 2022 campaign. In a continuation of our Time to Dare series, Kendall embodies the glamorous, confident and daring spirit of the brand. Kendall has nearly 300 million followers across her social media accounts, which has increased Jimmy Choo's consumer reach. In Japan, Jimmy Choo introduced actress and model Ayami Nakajo as the latest friend of the house. In a series of images set against the Tokyo skyline, she is featured with Autumn's must-have accessories, boots, and sneakers. The actress has over 2 million followers on Instagram and is helping us reach new customers. Our engaging customer communication, which combines storytelling with data analytics, helped contribute to a 30% year-over-year increase in Jimmy Choo's global consumer database overall Jimmy Choo's strong second quarter results speak to the strength of the brand and the success of our strategic initiatives reinforcing our confidence in the luxury house's future growth potential turning to Michael Kors we were pleased with the second quarter results revenue was in line with our expectations and operating margin was better than anticipated. Revenue increased 9% on a reported basis and 15% in constant currency compared to the prior year. As we continue to execute on our strategic initiatives and consumers responded to Michael's glamorous jet set design vision. Turning to product, as we continue to elevate our assortment, we introduced our new Empire Hardware and Art Deco logo design that embodies the style of Michael Kors and his love of New York City. The Empire Hardware debuted on our new Parker bags as well as on a selection of shoes ready to wear and eyewear. We see a significant opportunity in products featuring our newly highly recognizable MK hardware codes as they build brand identity and consumer loyalty. In accessories, consumers responded positively to the glamorous hardware of our new Parker bags. We are pleased with the initial response to the collection and sales exceeded our expectations globally. Signature also continued to perform well. As a result, accessory sales in our retail channel increased mid single digits globally turning to footwear as we discussed during our july investor day we believe we can significantly expand michael kors footwear to drive incremental revenue footwear sales in our retail channel increased high single digits during the quarter as we continue to capitalize on our brand codes and deliver exciting fashion. Looking at men's, which is another growth opportunity for Michael Kors, second quarter retail sales increased strong double digits globally as we focused on timeless essentials with a modern edge. Accessory sales were strong, driven by signature styles. Now turning to brand awareness and consumer engagement. Michael's fall campaigns reflect his love for New York City as well as his passion for travel. The Michael Kors collection campaign celebrates the allure and glamour of New York City with opulent extravagance. The Michael Michael Kors campaign highlights the brand's jet set DNA as Bella Hadid and friends explore London. In Asia, as we increased our focus in the region, Michael Kors created a localized extension of the global jet set campaign featuring Chinese supermodel, Hikong. During New York Fashion Week, Michael Kors was the most highly engaged brand on social media. The theme of the spring 2023 show was urban resort which combined the elegance of city life with the laid-back glamour of a resort getaway. The show generated over 23 million views globally. In China, Michael Kors took over an immersive venue in the heart of Shanghai to view the Spring 23 Fashion Show. Brand ambassadors Gao Yunyun and Wang Feifei were joined by over 750 guests, including top models, influencers, and press. As a result, the event generated over 50 million social media impressions, and the fashion show was livestreamed by over 21 million viewers on Weibo. The combined power of our Jet Set storytelling and our data analytics capabilities contributed to a 17% year-over-year increase Michael Kors global database turning to our retail fleet I am also pleased to announce that we will be opening two new Michael Kors flagship locations one on Madison Avenue in New York City and one on Bond Street in London they are scheduled to open next year before the holiday season both locations are approximately 10,000 square feet and will showcase our entire luxury assortment. These stores are being designed not only to elevate the brand, but also to drive more significant retail revenue in major cities. Finally, I'm happy to announce that we launched Michael Kors Preloved during the quarter, driven by our commitment to sustainability. The Michael Kors Preloved site is the official marketplace for buying and selling gently used items from Michael Kors. Our goal is to give consumers the best value for their past purchases while giving those items a new beginning with another stylish Michael Kors customer. Overall, Michael Kors' second quarter results speak to the strength of the brand as well as the success of our strategic initiatives. As we continue to elevate the brand positioning we are confident in Michael Core's future potential. In conclusion, we were pleased with Capri's second quarter results as we delivered strong revenue growth and record earnings per share. Looking forward, while we recognize there are near-term macro uncertainties, our powerful brands have enduring value and proven resilience, reinforcing our conviction in Capri's ability to deliver strong revenue and earnings growth over time. Our confidence is also underpinned by the talented group of employees at Capri Holdings that are executing our strategic initiatives.

Now let me turn the call over to Tom. Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. Starting with second quarter results, revenue of 1.41 billion increased 9% versus prior year and 18% in constant currency, in line with our expectations. Net income was $245 million, resulting in diluted earnings per share of $1.79. This was above our expectations, primarily reflecting higher than anticipated gross margin and diligent operating expense management. Turning to revenue performance by brand. At Versace, revenue increased 9% versus prior year and 28% in constant currency. Global retail sales increased double digits in constant currency. By geography, total revenue in the Americas increased 12%. Revenue in EMEA increased 10% on a reported basis and 28% in constant currency. Revenue in Asia increased 2% on a reported basis and 20% in constant currency. reflecting strong growth in Japan and Southeast Asia, partially offset by an expected decline in China. For Jimmy Choo, revenue increased 4% the prior year and 15% in constant currency. Global retail sales increased double digits in constant currency. By geography, total revenue in the Americas increased 13%. Revenue in EMEA increased 2% on a reported basis and 20% in constant currency. Revenue in Asia decreased 2% on a reported basis but increased 12% in constant currency, reflecting increases in Japan and Southeast Asia partially offset by an expected decline in China. At Michael Kors, revenue increased 9% compared to last year and 15% in constant currency. Global retail sales increased high single digits in constant currency. By geography, total revenue in the Americas increased 16%. Revenue in EMEA was flat on a reported basis, but increased 15% in constant currency. Revenue in Asia decreased 5% on a reported basis, but increased 7% in constant currency, reflecting strong growth in Japan and Southeast Asia, partially offset by an expected decline in China. Now, looking at total company margin performance. Gross margin of 67.1% was 50 basis points below prior year, as we continued to be impacted by higher supply chain costs. But this was above our expectations, reflecting the benefits of our strategic initiatives. Operating expense as a percent of revenue was 47.3% compared to 49.1% last year. reflecting leverage on the increase in sales. On an absolute basis, operating expense increased approximately 5% or 30 million versus prior year, primarily reflecting increased marketing and higher variable expenses associated with the increase in sales. Total company operating margin of 19.8% expanded 130 basis points versus prior year, and was 280 basis points above our expectations. Better than anticipated results were primarily driven by greater gross margin expansion and lower operating expenses. All brand operating margins exceeded our expectations. At Versace, operating margin of 20.1% expanded 60 basis points versus prior year. At Jimmy Choo, operating margin of 5.6% expanded 490 basis points year over year. And at Michael Kors, operating margin of 25.8% expanded 80 basis points versus prior year. Our tax rate for the quarter was 14.6% compared to last year's rate of 3.7%, which reflected a discrete benefit. Now, turning to our balance sheet, We ended the quarter with cash of $215 million and debt of $1.6 billion, resulting in net debt of $1.4 billion. As part of our ongoing commitment to return cash to shareholders, we repurchased approximately $350 million worth of shares in the second quarter. Additionally, we repurchased another $100 million worth of shares quarter to date in the third quarter. Given our strong free cash flow generation and balance sheet, our board has authorized a new $1 billion share repurchase program. Looking at inventory, we ended the quarter with $1.18 billion, a 36% increase over an historically low level last year. Relative to pre-COVID levels, second quarter inventory increased 10%. This was a significant sequential deceleration compared to the first quarter, and in line with our expectations. As a reminder, we anticipated elevated inventory levels as we implemented new programs to receive seasonal merchandise earlier, as well as hold more core inventory given supply chain delays. We feel good about the quality of our inventory and believe we're in a great position heading into the holiday season. As we look at inventory flow for the remainder of the year, we expect levels will moderate sequentially and as planned, be below prior year by the end of the fiscal year. Now, turning to guidance. We are taking a more conservative view to our revenue outlook for the remainder of fiscal 23, given the increasingly uncertain macroeconomic environment, foreign currency headwinds, and the ongoing impact of COVID-related restrictions in China. Therefore, we now forecast Capri Holdings' annual revenue of approximately $5.7 billion. This represents an approximate 1% increase over prior year on a reported basis, while on a constant currency basis, revenue is expected to increase approximately 7%. While we continue to see solid trends in our own retail channel across all three brands, Guidance now includes an approximate 100 million reduction in revenue from the wholesale channel, primarily driven by Michael Kors. The remainder of the reduction is split evenly between the impact of foreign currency exchange rates and increased restriction in China. Looking at full-year revenue guidance by brand, we now assume Versace revenue of approximately 1.15 billion increasing approximately 6% on a reported basis and approximately 22% in constant currency. Jimmy Choo revenue of approximately 640 million, increasing approximately 4% on a reported basis and approximately 14% in constant currency. And Michael Kors revenue of approximately 3.91 billion, down 1% on a reported basis and an increase of approximately 2% in constant currency. For the year, we now expect gross margin expansion of approximately 50 basis points relative to fiscal 22. The increase compared to our prior outlook reflects the ongoing benefits of the company's strategic initiatives. We now expect a full year operating margin of approximately 18.3%, an increase of 30 basis points relative to prior guidance. This increase reflects higher gross margin and approximately $60 million of expense savings compared to previous expectations. For Versace, we continue to anticipate an operating margin of approximately 16%. For Jimmy Choo, we continue to expect an operating margin of approximately 5%. And for Michael Kors, we now anticipate an operating margin of approximately 25%. Turning to our expectations around certain non-operating items. we now anticipate net interest expense of approximately $6 million. Our effective tax rate is expected to be approximately 10%, and we forecasted weighted average shares outstanding of $136 million. As a result, and we are reiterating, our diluted earnings per share guidance of approximately $6.85 for fiscal 23, representing double-digit growth versus prior year. Turning to third quarter guidance. We anticipate total company revenue of approximately 1.53 billion. This represents an approximate 5% decrease year-over-year on a reported basis or flat the prior year in constant currency. For third quarter revenue by brand, we forecast Versace revenue of approximately 240 million, decreasing approximately 4% on a reported basis and increasing approximately 12% in constant currency. As a reminder, Versace reports on a one-month lag, and their third quarter does not include December. Jimmy Choo revenue of approximately $180 million, increasing approximately 1% on a reported basis and 10% in constant currency. And Michael Kors revenue of approximately $1.11 billion, decreasing approximately 6% on a reported basis and approximately 3% to prior year in constant currency. This now includes an approximate $65 million reduction in revenue from the wholesale channel. Looking at operating margin, we now expect third-quarter operating margin of approximately 20.5%. This reflects gross margin expansion offset by expense deleverage on lower sales. In terms of operating margin by brand, for Versace, we anticipate an operating margin in a high single-digit range. Third quarter is in a seasonally lower margin quarter for Versace since it does not include December, which is their single most profitable month of the year. For Jimmy Choo, we also expect operating margin in the high single-digit range. And for Michael Kors, we anticipate operating margin in the mid to high 20% range. Turning to our expectations around certain non-operating items, we forecast net interest expense of approximately $6 million. an effective tax rate of approximately 5%, and weighted average shares outstanding of $133 million. As a result, we now expect diluted earnings per share of approximately $2.20. Now we would like to take a moment to discuss our revenue expectations for the fourth quarter. We now anticipate revenue of $1.4 billion, a decline of 6% on a reported basis and flat on a constant currency basis. As a reminder, last year's fourth quarter included a 53rd week. Excluding the impact of the extra week, guidance represents a revenue increase of approximately 5% in constant currency. This reflects growth in our retail channel that is consistent with our third quarter trends as well as lower wholesale revenue. In conclusion, we are pleased with our second quarter results as we delivered strong revenue growth operating margin expansion, and record earnings per share. While we are taking a more cautious view of the back half of the year, we are maintaining our full-year earnings guidance, which is a testament to the strength of our business model. Beyond fiscal 23, we remain optimistic about the long-term growth potential for Versace, Jimmy Choo, and Michael Kors. Our powerful brands have enduring value and proven resilience. reinforcing our confidence in the ability to deliver strong revenue and earnings growth over time.

Now we will open up the line for questions.

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Thank you. Our first question comes from Matthew Boss with JP Morgan.

Great, thanks. So, John, as we consider the increased caution that you're now embedding in your back half guide, have you seen any notable softening in demand across your brand portfolio to date at direct-to-consumer? Maybe could you elaborate on the $100 million Michael Kors wholesale reduction? And then just how do you see current inventory levels for the accessories category positioned into holiday?

Good morning, Matt. So I'll first start talking about our own retail channels. In North America and in Europe, we're seeing very robust sales in both of those markets. We're actually quite pleased in our own channels. And as it relates to our direct-to-consumer slash e-commerce part of the business, that's actually trending extremely strong. You could see by the level of database increase that we had at MicroCores, which was 17%, and that's on a very, very large database already. We're definitely attracting consumers, we're engaging with consumers, and we're seeing very strong results. We were also pleased with what we're seeing happening with our accessories business. As you know, we've traded, we've really been moving the positioning of that part of our business up as we're elevating the brand in particular in Michael Kors, although we have been taking price increases at both Versace and at Jimmy Choo. And that's all been going very well for us. So in our own direct-to-consumer channels, we're feeling very positive. I would put one caveat on that, and that's China. China, we have actually seen a slowdown We saw that happening about a month, month and a half ago, where things have actually gotten a little more difficult. And that's predominantly because of the COVID restrictions. And, you know, we are having various either cities or malls open and close, and it's been causing a great deal of difficulty. And I'm sure you've seen the data. Actual internal travel inside of China is down as well, domestic travel. So we've taken a much more cautious approach, even than where we were before on China. And we think that it's going to take time for that region to recover for us. In terms of the wholesale channel, we have seen some slowing in that channel over the last few weeks in particular. We don't know whether that's a shift in consumer behavior. We don't know whether that's a result of less stimulus checks. We're not really sure what that is, but we've taken a more cautious view. As we've told you in the past, and this is probably more of a Michael Kors issue than anything, we'd rather have less inventory in the channel. We'd rather preserve our margins. We've worked very hard over the last three years to elevate the Michael Kors brand, and we don't want to take a step backwards. And so we think that having the appropriate amount of inventory in those channels will make it so that we keep brand integrity. And I think that's been a very positive thing. I will note one other issue in the Department Store channel. We've started to add sales associates back in, both in North America and Europe, where we had really pared back on that program pretty significantly going into COVID. And coming out of COVID, we didn't fund it as aggressively as we are now doing. And as we're adding sales associates back into our shop and shops around United States and Europe, we're seeing a very significant uplift in the business. And we see that again. The more clienteling we can do, the more of a customer journey we can give in-store as well as online, the consumer is definitely responding to that. And then in terms of inventories, I think I'll turn it over to Tom.

Thanks, Matt. And on inventories, we feel really good about the quality of inventory, and that's in total and for accessories, and believe we're in a great position for holiday. And this compares to last year when we really didn't have the inventory that we wanted or needed. So we feel like we're in a much, much better position. And in terms of inventory levels, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, up 36% versus prior year, but only 10% versus pre-COVID. And that's a significant decline from where we were in Q1 and right in line with our expectations. So as we look forward, we're going to continue to work through inventory and expect levels to be down sequentially and end the year below the prior year.

Yeah, I think that's an important note, what Tom just said is, you know, we I think have been giving you all view into how we were planning inventories we moved up deliveries dramatically we moved up our design calendar we flowed merchandise here to be ready for the fall season but also to make sure that we didn't have vessels that were continuing to be stuck in different places and so that cadence is something that we're going to stay with and therefore that was a year-long inventory adjustment and again i just want to remind everyone we anticipate inventories to be below ly in Q4, which we think is really a testament to the great management of all of the production teams and the design teams in our company, as well as the retail planning team. So we feel excellent about that and think that that's going to bode well for our margins going forward. Thank you, Matt.

Operator, I think we're ready for the next call, the next question.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Kimberly Greenberger with Morgan Stanley.

Okay, great. Thanks so much. Good morning. I wanted to ask about the gross margin results here. You are obviously navigating through some significant supply chain headwinds, but the results keep coming in sort of better than expected. John, and I'm wondering if that's some of the pricing initiatives that you're engaging in or, you know, what do you, to what do you attribute that better gross margin performance? And then, Tom, on the, I know, I think the cost pressures in gross margin have been primarily inbound freight. Are you seeing any product cost inflation that's not the inbound freight? And when do you think, I know that global freight rates are falling. When do you think we sort of get through the last of the headwinds on inbound freight? Thanks.

Good morning, Kimberly. I'm going to really let Tom address both questions, but I just thought I'd touch on the price increases. So as you know, we started price increases in Michael Kors almost three years ago as, again, we were elevating the brand. And we're really pleased with what we've seen happen, in particular with our new parker. collections where we've been focusing on hardware. Again, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, the signature part of our business has been terrific, and that's really lended towards higher gross margins for us because it's more carryover product and clearly resonating with the consumer, reaching 50% of our revenues in Michael Kors, which is where we wanted and projected to be. And now we're seeing a very nice uptick with the hardware strategy, both in accessories and in footwear. Footwear, we achieved high single-digit growth in our retail channel, and then accessories mid-single-digit. So that, I think, bodes well for what we're doing from a strategy standpoint. Also says that the consumers responded positively to not only product, but they haven't, you know, pushed back on the pricing piece. I do want to say that we will take one last price increase for spring, and then we're going to pause our price increases in most of the group for fall season, and we'll see what happens beyond that. Again, we've raised prices very significantly over the last three years at MicroCores and in Jimmy Choo and Versace. We've done it pretty quickly, actually. So we think we're in a great place, and I think you're seeing that flow through our gross margin. And that was in spite of, I think you recall, we had between 300 and 400 basis point increases in our cost of goods around freight. So thank goodness we had put those strategies into place. That's really been holding up. And then lastly, we have reduced, and again, in particular in microcores, the amount of promotionality that we've had in the business. We've been stepping that down over the last, two years, and we're going to step it down a fairly significant amount next year as well. So all of that, we again continue to hope shows up in the gross margin. But let me, Tom, talk to you about the cost and the freight.

Sure. And Kimberly, a little perspective on your gross margin. It is all being driven in terms of the upside by the strategic initiatives. If I look at Q2, our supply chain headwinds, which we knew would be there, were pretty much right in line with what we expected. Costs are higher than last year. And as we look forward, and as we've said before, in the second half, we expect that supply chain costs versus prior year will be a little lower because we're comparing against our highest cost levels and times when we aired product for prior holiday. It doesn't necessarily mean they're coming down dramatically. It just means we're comparing against a much higher period. So as we look at the second half, we look at the strategic initiatives continuing. And as you said and mentioned, they are delivering and they continue to deliver very nicely above expectations. Supply chain will be a positive, but we have Asia, in particular China, which is a very high margin region as a headwind as well as FX. That all said, we do expect gross margin to be up in the back half. And we felt confident based on our Q2 results and our outlook for the future to raise our guidance. for gross margin for the year by 50 basis points. So feeling good on that side. In terms of product costs, while there are pockets of cost increases, we don't see a material cost increase looking forward, and that may be one of the benefits of a stronger dollar at some level. So the last question you mentioned was, when will we through the freight costs increases? And I maybe provide a little perspective on what we're seeing out there. As opposed to last year when there were long delays, we were not seeing delays at this point. However, we're remaining cautious because we still have to get through potential port shutdowns if there are COVID-related restrictions and the normal buildup heading into Chinese New Year. So really, I think this is something we'll take a closer look at and monitor as we look at next year and renew our annual contracts for our freight carriers.

Great.

Thanks for the color there.

Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, we kindly ask you to please limit yourself to one question. Our next question comes from Omar Saad with Evercore.

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I was hoping maybe you could elaborate a little bit on the Slowdown you're seeing in wholesale, but not really in DPC. Any thoughts on why you're seeing a bit more of a slower trend in that channel versus the DPC channel? And then maybe, John, you could talk a little bit more detail about the data and analytics. You mentioned several times on the call, it seems like you're hitting a tipping point in terms of your capabilities there. Thanks.

Sure. So Omar, I can only speak to, we understand our own traffic, both online and internally at the store level. Our traffic on all three of our houses is up very significantly. And you can also see that by the capture. You look at the numbers of Versace's database up 40%, Jimmy Choo up 30%, and Michael Kors up 17%. Those are, I think, pretty spectacular numbers. And again, I take my hat off to our teams, and it's really the storytelling. that they're doing around great product innovation led by Michael and Donatella and Sandra. And I think the product in the company is looking really good. And I'm quite bullish on how good the product is looking and how good the stores are looking. And I'm also seeing a lot of our data capture comes from point of sale. And our sales associates are so engaged right now. And you've heard us talk a lot about clienteling and the group is getting better and better at that. We have a group wide tools in place that the sales associates can now really do a much better job of clienteling and capturing names. So we're seeing that strategy. It's been working for the last two years and it's gaining even more steam. And so I'm very excited about what that means for us. Because again, if you look at customer lifetime value, that's going to be very significant for us on a go-forward basis. We're also seeing traffic hold up relatively well in our stores. And again, I want to speak to North America and to Europe. We're not seeing the same in China. And in fact, we're seeing traffic decelerate in the region. And we're hopeful that that will begin to change at some point in time, but we're very cautious given the continuing of the zero COVID policy in the region and how that may impact us. In terms of the wholesale, I can't speak to the traffic because we don't know, we don't have counters inside the stores. I think that clearly the consumer is probably being a little more cautious given what they're seeing with the macro economic headwinds. We know interest rates are rising. We know people are being impacted by fuel and impacted by potential mortgage resets. And we also know that this was, I think, the period of the last stimulus check. So we think a number of those things are probably impacting the consumer in that channel. And again, maybe it's going to be a little bit of shopping later this year versus last year because people thought that if they didn't get it last year, it wouldn't be there. I think most companies are in a much better position today to be able to meet the consumer's desire. And again, we're just going to stay very focused and patient as we go through this period of time. We feel great about where the three brands are and how they're positioned and the way the product looks. So we still believe we're going to have a good holiday season. And we also believe that the American consumer is in fairly good financial shape and we'll have a good holiday season. But we want to do that in the way that we set out, which is around our strategic initiatives. And part of that is to not take a promotional point of view. And we've said many, many times over the last two years, and I know you've all heard it and I know there are some people who maybe don't believe it, but we're going to give up volume to protect our gross margin. And we think that's the right strategy for the health of our brands as we navigate through this interesting and challenging period. We did a pretty good job getting through COVID, and we'll do a good job getting through this period. But that's really led by the equity of our three strong houses. Thank you. One more.

Next question, please.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ike Boruchel with Wells Fargo.

Hey, good morning, John. Good morning, Tom. I'm actually going to go to Tom for this one. I kind of want to just focus on the balance sheet and on the interest expense that you guys are currently seeing. You know, going back to the summer, Tom, I think you guys were expecting about $35 million in interest income. Now I think you said it's $6 million interest expense. Can you just walk us through, you know, the components of the balance sheet that are moving around with interest rates rising, what's floating, what's not, and just kind of how we should think about the run rate of payments and does that impact how you think about capital allocation? It sounds like you just bought $100 million in stock quarter of the day, so it sounds like the answer is no, but just kind of wanted to double check on that.

Yeah, I'll start with that, Ike, which is we're really comfortable with the strength of our balance sheet and free cash flow generation. as well as the levels of debt that we have on now and the leverage rate, which is very, very manageable for us. So we have pivoted, as we noted in Investor Day, to return cash to shareholders first versus pay down debt, given the value we believe that exists in our share at the moment. So we'll be continuing to focus on that as we move forward. And then what you'll see is a little higher year over year debt balance, net debt balance, a result of that and we believe that's the right position to be in under the current circumstances in addition you noted that interest expense is as increased versus our original guidance and it's really a couple of things the first and foremost interest rates are higher so we're just paying more on revolving debt we do have a bond out there that's at a fixed rate our revolver is at a variable rate so that is impacted by that as well as higher debt balances The last part is a little lower interest income that we are generating from certain hedges that we had on place that are no longer in place, and we'll be revisiting them in the future. So that's really the three puts and takes related to that, but it's really managing and buying back shares that we want to focus on.

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Thank you. Our next question comes from Simeon Siegel with BMO.

Hey, good morning. It's Dan on for Simeon here. Just wanted to get your thoughts on where industry promotions and inventory go over the near term. And given the successes you've had on the present architecture, what guardrails you have in place there. Thank you. Simeon, can you repeat that question? We kind of didn't understand you. Just your thoughts sector-wide, where the promotions and the inventory go for the near term here, and then just how you protect the pricing and the AUR gains that you've had.

Okay. Look, we can't speak to the sector-wide or industry. Different companies are going to take different positions on their inventory or their sales trend, so we can't control that, and we have a strategic vision for our three houses. And we believe that's working. We believe that's resonating with the consumer. And I want to point to Versace as a starting point. You look at what we've put in place in terms of trying to build and make Versace a luxury leather house. Our accessories business increased by 60% in our own retail channel during the quarter. That's extraordinary. And I'm really Again, I take my hat off to the entire design team back in Milan and all of our sales associates around the world. And they're really starting to gain some significant traction in that category. And our women's footwear business has been strong as well. I looked at Jimmy Choo and with the launch of our new Avenue collection around Varenne, our accessories business was up by 30%. And of course, Michael Kors in the mid signal digits, given what we've put in place around that strategy. So we don't want to do anything to damage that. These are strategies that are working. And to Kimberly's earlier question, another tailwind that we're getting is the more we develop accessories, the higher the margins are for the company. And again, you look at where Versace's operating margins came in, you know, much, much higher than we had anticipated. And again, we're making great headway in that business in terms of profitability. We're a year and a half or so ahead of what our original expectations were. And so that's a real testament to the product. Also, again, our sales associates and Jimmy Choo, the operating margins are moving forward. We're making some gross margin gains there as well. So there's so many good things happening for us that, yes, there might be some challenges this holiday season, but we're not going to try to overreact to that. And I think the more we stay focused on our strategies, the more the consumer will have a desire for all three of our luxury brands.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Oliver Chen with Cohen.

Hi, John and Tom. Nice job in a tough environment. On the topic of inflation, you reflected upon it earlier. Just would love your thoughts on how that is impacting the consumer and also the physical store traffic, any color between outlet and full price and what you're seeing with traffic as well. Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, Oliver. I do want to acknowledge for the entire group, we think obviously last quarter was really an extraordinary quarter for us because on a constant currency basis, the group was up 18%. And that's really, I think, speaks volumes to, again, our strategic initiatives and how the consumer is responding to that and how our talented employee base is really executing against that. So I appreciate you recognizing that. In terms of, I'm going to start with store traffic. Store traffic is, as I said, it's relatively good. And actually, we're seeing a bit stronger store traffic in the full price versus the outlets. And so we think that all, again, bodes well for a good holiday season. And we still feel very good in our own channels in particular about what will happen in North America and in Europe. again, much less confident in what will happen in China. But I wanted to say on balance for that, we're seeing very strong traffic in Japan and in Southeast Asia, where it's been able to offset some of that decline that we've had in China. And I would also say Australia as well, that it's been quite robust. In terms of the inflation, I think that what we hear anecdotally from people in the stores is more here in North America, they're concerned about interest rate rises and they're concerned about some of the costs. Many people are incurring costs again, going back to work and commuting and all those expenses where they didn't have a lot of that this time last year. So we're hearing that. Whereas in Europe, we're hearing a great deal of caution around energy, as you I'm sure have read and And I've been hearing about energy costs are up substantially in Europe. And so we would have thought things would have slowed down a little bit in Europe, and we haven't seen that yet. That doesn't mean that it's not going to come. But again, we're going to keep our eye closely on that. And I think the consumer kind of got a bit more open later than it was in North America. So I think we're still seeing the positive of that where people are traveling throughout Europe. And as you are aware, the major cities in Europe are seeing quite a robust lift with people traveling, mainly Europeans traveling, but also Americans traveling over to Europe. So again, we're hopeful, but we are cautious knowing that the consumer is facing higher interest rates, higher energy costs, and in many cases, higher food prices as well. And that will eventually have some impact. So we go into this with our eyes wide open and remain with a solid conviction around staying with our strategic objectives. Thank you, Oliver. As regards. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Adrian Yee with Barclays.

Great. Thank you very much. And really a great accomplishment in a very tough, tough environment. So kudos to the team there. I believe this is probably going to be for Tom. I really want to focus on the wholesale piece of it. The total top line sales come in about 150 million. I think you talked about $100 million reduction from the wholesale piece, primarily, of course, for the annualized. I guess my question is, what did it do? What was wholesale in the current quarter? Did it grow? Was it flat in the current quarter? Apologies if I missed that. And then your fiscal third quarter, December, is typically your lowest sellout, right? Sell through in wholesale. So what season is that for at retail? And if my calculation is correct, that's a good heavy double-digit decline in wholesale, like 20% or so. So if you can help me understand those numbers, that would be great. Thank you very much.

Sure. Adrian, maybe I could take a step back on our guidance versus our original and then walk through how wholesale fits into it. At the beginning of the year, we provided guidance for revenue of $6.1 billion, and we're now at $5.7 billion. And really, the difference is mostly FX. It's about 225 million of FX, 75 of challenges in China related to restrictions, and now 100 million of wholesale. I point out on a 52-week basis, constant currency for the year, we're growing 9%. So even with those challenges, we believe that the teams and the businesses are really delivering and controlling what they can. With regard to wholesale, of the 150, 100 is wholesale. The other half is FX and China. In Q2, wholesale was positive. In Q3, we expect it to be down as a result of this change primarily for Michael Kors. And as we looked at our guidance, while we do not break out wholesale and retail, embedded in our previous guidance, wholesale was expected to be up very modestly for the year. Now for the year, we're expected to be down. And in Q3, I'm not sure particularly if you could repeat the last part of your question on Q3 as to the seasons that it related to.

Yeah, I was wondering, so if you're selling through December, the order book, right, so the retailers are ordering for late spring, summer. Is that how it is? Is that what they're placing their orders for?

No, Adrienne, let me grab that for you. So one thing, in Q2, the reason why wholesale was up slightly for the group was because we were still facing delays in inventory from our queue. So we were really getting everybody into position for the fall season. And then as we saw things begin to slow down over the last few weeks, we made the decision, let's just hold off. Let's not try to put this inventory in a place that's going to possibly take away from all the good that we've done. In terms of the order book on a go-forward basis, Again, we work very closely with our retail partners, and I would say it's a complete kind of a joint action plan. So we're just looking at sales and retail trends, and our partners pretty much work with us. If business is up by X, then we flow inventory up by X. If it's down by Y, then we flow down by Y. So we've got the inventory in place for a modest increase next year in wholesale on the retail side of things. We'll see how things play out. Again, there's nothing there that would give us any pause from an inventory standpoint. Again, you know, the wholesale business across the group is kind of in that approximate 25% range. So it's not going to really impact our inventories dramatically one way or the other. So we feel good about how we're going to end the year. We feel good about where we've positioned ourselves going into next year. And we already took a cautious approach to next year in the wholesale channel given what we know today. So inventory management is key for us. Margin is key for us. Thank you very much.

Thank you very much. Super helpful.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Brooke Roach with Goldman Sachs.

Good morning and thank you so much for taking our question. John, I'd like to follow up on some of the earlier comments about the momentum that you're seeing across your business within some of the various income demographic cohorts. I think you mentioned in a prior question differences in traffic just between your mainline and your outlet stores. But can you provide any additional context on how that's translating through to brand momentum, to total sales, and to your expectation for the holiday season? Thank you.

Yeah, thank you for the question, Brooke. You know, as I think I indicated, traffic is the highest for us right now across the group online. We're very pleased with what we're seeing happening there. And again, I believe that's our team's tactics and how we're engaging with the customer. I hope you've been watching our whole kind of reset with the Jet Set imagery around Michael Kors. I think that's really resonating. I think that, you know, Jimmy Choo's Time to Dare campaigns and very excited about having Kendall Jenner as our face for this fall season. And we just launched with Iris Law. Again, we're really attracting a fashion customer, an excited customer about wanting to be a part of that brand. And then, of course, Versace, there's never a shortage of excitement around Versace. And we're really focused on our accessories business. And I think the marketing initiatives around there are working. And we're hearing Again, from our sales associates in the stores, there's a much younger customer coming to Versace right now and a customer who's coming in just for the accessories. Now, we haven't had that in a few years. It started last year with about a year and a half ago with the launch of La Medusa, but we're now starting to see this regularly and consistently. So I think that that's driving a lot of the engagement around our e-commerce site. And then in terms of traffic, I think people are back in store shopping. I think that's going to be the interesting part about the holiday season. I do believe people are shopping and looking and getting their lists together. And I think we're going to see something happen here in the next week or so. Hopefully we get a little cold weather in North America and in Europe. That would be helpful. And lastly, I can't speak to the differentiation between the traffic levels Their traffic levels are still good in the outlet channel, but they're just better in online and full price. And I think that bodes well for the customer's financial health and what we're seeing, again, in North America and in Europe. Thank you for that question, Brooke. On that note, I would like to say thank you for everyone joining us today. We're very pleased with how the second quarter turned out for Capri. We're also very confident in the three luxury brands, Michael Kors, Versace, and Jimmy Choo, and the strategic initiatives that we've put in place. And we are, again, very dedicated to keeping that as our guiding light. And again, we look forward to speaking to you over the next two quarters. And we think the year will end up being a very strong year for the company. And we look forward to the future. Thank you.