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Comstock Resources, Inc.
10/31/2024
Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the third quarter 2024 CompStack Resources earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised, that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Jay Ellison, Chairman and CEO. Please go ahead.
Perfect. And welcome, everyone that's listening in. Welcome to the Comstock Resources third quarter 2024 financial and operating results conference call. You can view a slide presentation during or after this call by going to our website at www.comstockresources.com. and downloading the quarterly results presentation. There you'll find a presentation entitled Third Quarter 2024 Results. I am Jay Allison, Chief Executive Officer of CompTalk, and with me is Roland Burns, our President and Chief Financial Officer, Dan Harrison, our Chief Operating Officer, and Ron Mills, our VP of Finance and Investor Relations. If you would, please refer to slide two in our presentations and note that our discussions today will include forward-looking statements within the meaning of securities laws. While we believe the expectations in such statements to be reasonable, there could be no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. If you would, turn to slide three before we start Going over this slide, I do want to make a few comments. On Tuesday, I was watching Bloomberg News, and the headline was, quote, big oil sees AI boom driving crazy demand for US natural gas. Now, by the way, I love that word crazy. Then on Wednesday, I read in the journal, quote, Wall Street giants to make $50 billion bet on AI and power projects with the quotes, quote, gas is going to be at the forefront of this, quote, natural gas can back up those intermittent renewables very nicely, and quote, natural gas-fired plants will be critical in supplying around-the-clock power to data centers. Now, since those headlines came out on Tuesday, Wednesday, I know they're not trick-or-treat headlines. So today is Halloween, everyone, so happy Halloween. It does make you smile a little bit having a pure natural gas company report results on Halloween. I told someone I was hoping tonight I'd see a kid in my front door dressed as a flame, either that or as a horseshoe. Either one's good with me. Anyhow, the good news or the treat for natural gas companies is that America and the world needs more natural gas. In the very near future, as demand for an additional 15 BCF of LNG increases, feed gas gets nearer along with growth in power demand being driven by the growth in data centers and AI. The question is though, here's the question, is where does ComSoc fit into this puzzle and how did we position ourselves over the past four years to be a difference maker in the US natural gas market? As one analyst stated on Monday, quote, The producing basins are facing inventory exhaustion." You either add inventory by M&A or exploratory drilling. Comstock has chosen four years ago to grow inventory through exploration in our new Western Hainesville play. Since 2020, we have secured 450,000 net acres In the western Hainesville area, it drilled 18 wells over an area of 26 miles to give birth to a major natural gas field close to the LNG demand corridor, which could potentially add decades of additional drilling inventory. I told someone that it's like a dog chasing a car and catching it. That's what we did in Western Hainesville. We caught the 450,000 net acres, and now we're learning how to drive the car, or in our case, develop the Western Hainesville well by well. The results today look very, very promising, so the future looks very bright. In fact, today, Dan Harrison, our COO, will report on our 13th Western Hainesville well and give you cost per foot, and yes, Number 13 is a lucky number for us today, even on Halloween. That kind of makes you smile too. So on this Halloween day, we're thankful to be the treat as the corner is being turned for natural gas demand. So now let me go back to the presentation on slide three. On slide three, we summarize the highlights of the third quarter. Our financial results continue to be heavily impacted by the continued weak natural gas prices, as our average realized gas price before hedging was $1.90 for the quarter. As a result, our oil and gas sales, including hedging, were $305 million in the quarter, and we generated cash flow from operations of $152 million, or 52 cents per share, and adjusted EBITDAX of $202 million. Our adjusted net loss was 17 cents per share for the quarter. Given the lower completion activity that was planned for this quarter, we had only eight operated wells turned to sales since the company's last update. These wells had an average initial production of 21 million cubic feet per day. One of those was our first Horseshoe Hainesville well, which had an initial IP rate of 31 million per day, which Dan will talk about later. We're continuing to advance our Western Hainesville exploratory play. Our acreage in the emerging play is now up to 453,881 net acres. Most importantly, we have substantially reduced the well cost in the Western Hainesville, with our 13th well recently completed at a cost of approximately $2,814 per lateral foot. This was a single well, with an 11,400-foot lateral, which did not get the cost savings that we see on a two-well pad. The next five wells in the Western Angel are expected to be turned to sales in late 2024 to early 2025. Four of those are on two-well pads. Now I'll give it over to Roland to go to the third quarter financial results. Roland?
All right. Thanks, Jay. On slide four, we cover our third quarter financial results. Our production in third quarter averaged 1.4 BCFE per day, which was 2% higher than the third quarter of 2023. Continued low natural gas prices resulted in our oil and gas sales in the quarter declining 3% to $305 million. EBITDAX for the quarter was $202 million, and we generated $152 million of cash flow in the third quarter. We reported an adjusted loss of $49 million for the third quarter of 17 cents per share. Higher depreciation, depletion, and amortization in the quarter really accounted for the loss. The higher amortization rate driving the increase in our DD&A was caused by a decrease in approved undeveloped reserves, which had to be determined under SEC rules based on the low natural gas prices we've had over the last 12 months. On slide five, we cover Our year-to-date financial results, production in this period averaged 1.5 BCFE per day, and that was 5% higher than the same period in 2023. Again, low natural gas prices caused our oil and gas sales in the first nine months of the year to decrease 7% to $919 million as compared to 2023. Our EBITDAX for the first nine months of this year is $598 million, and we generated about 452 million of cash flow. We reported a net loss of 121 million for the first nine months of this year, or 42 cents per share as compared to income of 105 million in the same period in 2023. On slide six, we break down our natural gas price realizations in the quarter. The quarterly NYMEX settlement price averaged $2.16 in the third quarter, and the average Henry Hub spot price averaged $2.09. Our realized gas price during the third quarter averaged $1.90, reflecting a 26-cent differential to the settlement price and a 23-cent differential to the reference price. In the third quarter, we were 28% hedged, which improved our realized gas price to $2.28. As we look ahead to the fourth quarter, we'll be 50% hedged. On slide seven, we detail our operating costs per MCFE and our EBITDAX margin. Our operating costs per MCFE averaged 77 cents in the third quarter. That's a seven cent improvement from the second quarter rate. And then our margin improved 67% in the third quarter as compared to 61% in the second quarter. A lot of that was driven by lower production and ad valorem taxes, which were down five cents reflecting a reduction in the statutory rate in Louisiana. Our lifting costs were also down 5 cents in the quarter. Our gathering costs were up 3 cents in the quarter, but this is solely due to some prior period adjustments from some of our transport agreements. So we expect to see that back to its kind of normal rate in the fourth quarter. And our G&A costs were unchanged from the second quarter. On slide eight, we recap our spending on our drilling and other development activity, we spent a total of $184 million on development activities in the third quarter. And for all of the first nine months of this year, we've drilled 23 or 18.6 net Hainesville wells and 12 or 11.1 Bossier wells. We've also turned 41 or 35.9 net operated wells to sales so far this year that had an average IP rate of 24 million per day. Slide 9 recaps our capitalization at the end of the third quarter. We ended the quarter with $415 million of borrowings outstanding under our credit facility, giving us $3 billion of total debt, including our outstanding senior notes. Yesterday, our bank group unanimously reaffirmed our borrowing base of $2 billion, and our elected commitment still remains at $1.5 million under the bank credit facility. And given the extended period of low natural gas prices that we've had, our bank group approved an amendment to loosen the covenant leverage ratio that we had. The new leverage ratio under the amendment increases to less than four times through the first quarter of next year, then steps back down to 3.75 times in the second quarter of 2025, and then to less than three and a half times by the third quarter of 2025. At the end of the third quarter, we ended the quarter with $1.1 billion of liquidity. I'll now turn the call over to Dan to discuss the operations.
Okay. Thanks, Roland. If you look over on slide 10, this is an updated slide from our last call which outlines the new development plan we have utilizing the horseshoe lateral concept. The tested concept we have We've successfully drilled and completed our first single horseshoe well, the Sebastian 11 No. This is located in DeSoto Parish, Louisiana, and it's located on one of our isolated single section acreage blocks. We turned the well to sales early last week, and we just recently reached an IP rate of 31 million cubic feet a day from a 9,382-foot completed lateral that is in the Hainesville Shale. Building upon this successful test, we will be pursuing additional horseshoe well projects in the future. The technology allows us to develop acreage that before presented more challenging economics by being limited to drilling short laterals. The section we have depicted on this slide represents a project we have scheduled for late next year. This section would have originally been developed by drilling four 5,000 foot laterals from two well pads with a $40 million capital cost. This same section will now be developed from a single two-well pad drilling two horseshoe laterals with a $32 million capital cost. And this is based on a DNC cost of $1,740 a foot. And a recently completed Sebastian well cost came in slightly lower than this. The project will deliver cost savings of 23% or $8 million, which substantially improves all our key economic performance metrics. We expect the well performance from the horseshoe wells will match that of our regular 10,000 foot laterals. And with this success, we have also optimized our drilling inventory by converting 57% of our short Hainesville locations to 64 future horseshoe locations. We're still in the process of evaluating our short bozer locations for additional horseshoe locations. On slide 11 is our current drilling inventory as it stands at the end of the third quarter. Our total operated inventory now stands at 1,607 gross locations. That's 1,252 net locations, which equates to a 78% average working interest. The non-operated inventory now stands at 1,199 gross locations and 158 net locations, which represents a 13% average working interest. The drilling inventory is split between Hainesville and Bossier locations, broken down into our four different categories, bilateral length. The short lateral is less than 5,000 foot. The medium lateral is between 5,000 and 8,500 foot. Our long laterals, between 8,500 and 10,000 foot, and our extra long laterals that go past 10,000 feet. In our gross operated inventory, we now have 180 short laterals, 331 medium laterals, 482 long laterals, and 614 extra long laterals. And the inventory is split evenly, basically between the Hainesville and the Bossier. The updated inventory numbers include the impact of identifying 64 horseshoe locations in the Hainesville shell. Two-thirds or 68% of the gross operated inventory has laterals longer than 8,500 feet and 38% of the gross operated inventory have laterals longer than 10,000 feet. The average lateral length now stands at 9,261 foot and this is up slightly from our 9,077 feet. which we had at the end of the second quarter. This inventory provides us with over 30 years of future drilling locations based on this year's activity. On slide 12 is the chart outlining our average lateral length drill based on wells that we've turned to sales. During the third quarter, we turned 11 wells to sales with an average length of 12,580 feet. Individual lengths range from 8,912 feet to 15,303 feet. Our record longest lateral still stands at 15,726 feet. All the wells we turned to cells during the third quarter had laterals longer than 8,500 feet. And furthermore, nine of the 11 wells that turned to cells during the quarter were extra long laterals that were over 10,000 feet. As we mentioned earlier, we did not turn to sales any wells on our Western Hainesville acreage during the third quarter. However, we do have six additional wells in the Western Hainesville that we plan to turn to sales by the end of the year or early January 2025. The first of these six wells was turned to sales last week, and it's currently being flow tested. Looking ahead, we have several extra long laterals slated to turn to cells over the remainder of the year, and we expect our average lateral length for all of 2024 will be approximately 10,100 feet on a total of 48 wells turned to cells. To recap on our long lateral activity to date, we've now drilled 109 wells with laterals longer than 10,000 feet, and we have drilled 40 wells with laterals over 14,000 feet. Slide 13 outlines our new well activity since we last provided the well results at the end of July. Since our last call, we have eight new wells that have turned to sales. The individual IP rates on these range from 10 million cubic feet a day up to 31 million cubic feet a day with an average test rate of 21 million cubic feet a day. The average lateral length was 12,391 feet, with the individual laterals that ranged from 9,382 feet up to 15,272 feet. This list includes our first horse, you will, the Sebastian 11 No. Turned to sales last week. It achieved an IP rate of 31 million cubic feet a day. Recapping our activity levels, we're currently running five rigs, and two frac crews. Our second frac crew returned in late September following a 70-day frac holiday during the third quarter. We currently have two of the five rigs drilling in the Western Hainesville. We also have both of our frac fleets currently working in the Western Hainesville where we're in the process of fracking our first two well pads. Both two well pads will be completed in the fourth quarter and turn to sales at year end. In addition to these two well paths, we also have two single wells that turn to sales by year-end, which generates the total six Western Hainesville wells turning to sales between now and year-end. On slide 14 is the summary of our D&C costs through the third quarter for our benchmark long ladder wells. They are located on our core East Texas and North Louisiana acreage. This covers our wells with laterals greater than 8,500 feet long. And during the quarter, all 11 wells that we turned to sales were located on our core East Texas, North Louisiana acreage, and all 11 wells fell into our benchmark long lateral group. We're now providing the drilling cost per foot based on the date the wells reached TD. This provides a better view of the current drilling environment and the drilling cost environment, and just to be better aligned with the timing of when the drilling dollars are actually being spent. The completion cost per foot continues to use the turn to sales date. So in the third quarter, our drilling cost averaged $642 a foot. This is a 3% increase compared to the second quarter. Our third quarter completion cost came in at $776 dollars per foot, which represents a 6% decrease compared to the second quarter. When we kind of look out ahead to the next couple of quarters, we do see our D&C costs remaining flat to going slightly lower. I'll now turn the call back over to Jay to summarize the 2024 outlook.
Okay, Roland. Thank you, Dan. Thank you. If you would, I'll direct you to slide 15. where we summarize our outlook for 2024. As we stated last quarter, we've taken a number of steps in response to the significantly low natural gas prices this year. During the first quarter, we released two of our operated drilling rigs, reducing our rig count to five rigs, and we also released one of our frac spreads, reducing our frac fleet to two spreads, We no longer have any long-term commitments for our pressure pumping services. With those steps, our 2024 CapEx is expected to be down 25 to 35 percent from the 2023 level. We suspended our quarterly dividend, saving approximately $140 million of dividend payments. In late March, our majority shareholder, Jerry Jones, had invested an additional $100.5 million into the company, through an equity private placement. Starting in late February, we have added significantly to our hedge position, starting in the fourth quarter of 2024 and extending through the end of 2026. We're targeting a hedge level of 50% of our expected production level. In early April, we further enhanced our liquidity position with a $400 million senior notes offering. We are evaluating our planned activity level in 2025 based upon the outlook for natural gas demand, and we'll adjust our drilling program as needed to a response to the natural gas prices. We'll continue to maintain our very strong financial liquidity, which totaled just under $1.1 billion at the end of the third quarter. Our industry-leading lowest cost structure is an asset in the current low natural gas price environment as our cost structure is substantially lower than the other public natural gas producers. We remain very focused on proving up our Western Hainesville play and continuing to add to our extensive acreage position in this exciting play. Our Western Hainesville acreage position totals over 450,000 net acres. We believe that we are building a great asset in the Western Hainesville that will be well positioned to benefit from the substantial growth in demand for natural gas in our region that is on the horizon, driven by the growth in LNG exports that begins to show up in the second half of next year. I will now have Ron provide some specific guidance for the rest of the year. Ron?
Thanks, Jay. On slide 16, we provide our fourth quarter. Guidance, the fourth quarter production expected to remain in the 1325 to 1375 million cubic feet per day range, which is down approximately 10% from the fourth quarter of 2023 as expected and as has been discussed on prior calls. That's related to the impact of the timing of dropping the two rigs in late in the first quarter. CapEx guidance for the quarter is $225 to $275 million. Due to the timing of bringing wells online, we now expect 43 net wells to be turned to sales in 2024 versus the original expectation of 38 to 39 wells when we provided our original guidance. Those wells are coming on at the very end of the year, so there's not much production impact, but we do bear the full brunt of that capital expenditure. We continue to anticipate leasing CapEx of $2 to $5 million per quarter, and CapEx related to Pinnacle Gas Services, which is funded by our partner Quantum, is expected to be $50 to $90 million during the quarter. On the cost side, LOE is expected to average $0.24 to $0.28 per MCFE, while GTC costs are expected to average $0.34 to $0.40 per MCFE. Production and ad valorem taxes expected to average $0.14 to $0.18, while the DDNA is expected to remain in the $1.40 to $1.55 range. On the G&A side, cash G&As remain in the $6 to $8 million per quarter range, with about $3 to $4 million of non-cash G&A expenses expected. With the current SOFR rates and the April notes offering, we now anticipate our cash interest expense to be $54 to $56 million during the quarter, and our non-cash interest in the quarter will be $3 to $4 million. Effective tax rate remains in the 22% to 25% range, and we still expect to defer roughly almost 100% of those taxes. I'll now turn the call back over to Jill to answer questions.
Thank you, Ron. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1-1 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. First question comes from Kalei Akamean with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for getting me on. I guess I'd like to start with the elephant in the room, which is the planned outspend for 4Q. To frame it up a little bit, I think we're all pleased to see that you guys have the waiver. But I think some of the market thought that tripping the covenant would lead you back to more of a free cash priority. From our perspective, I think we get it. We see you trying to stabilize production and division for maybe a better 25. Just hoping that you can kind of talk through your motivations to outspend through this soft pricing and then maybe articulate your plans to manage the balance sheet in 25.
Yeah, that's a good question. I think, you know, really when we originally had the plan in place and by the time we kind of executed the plan, you know, the prices were a little bit stronger and we figured it would really cover that, you know, those expenditures planned for this year. And I think there's a little higher expenditure level only because the drilling days have been quicker in the western Hainesville. So a lot of the completion work that was going to cross over, some of that was going to cross over into 2025, it's kind of now expected to be mostly in the quarter. So other than looking at an individual quarter, you know, I think if you looked at it in a longer period, you know, there isn't really been much change at all in the plans. It's just how the cost, you know, end up being reported. So, you know, our goal for 2025 is again to, you know, with a higher hedge level, I think it'll be easier to achieve and take some of the risk out of gas prices is to try to balance, you know, the capital we invest back into with the cash flow we generate from operations.
Got it. So it's really timing and you're planning to keep activity, continue to progress forward. Maybe my next question is really on the Western Haynesville. Maybe this is for Dan. Cost per foot on the Hodges is better than our high-end estimate, and it's just one well estimate. You've got a two-well pad coming up, so maybe those costs are getting better. Maybe as an aside, if you can discuss those drilling costs, we'll take that. But more broadly, with the amount of wells that you'll have online, the data points and costs, maybe you have an event path ahead. When can we expect a more fulsome update on the Western Hainesville in 2025?
Well, I think we're going to be probably next year, early next year on the next call, we're going to be coming forward with obviously a lot more information on the Western Hainesville You're right, this 2,814 foot, which is a big milestone for us, was a single well. And of all the wells we drilled today, of course, this is the 13th well we started the sales. This was the fastest one we drilled to TD, 51 days. If you go back a few years, we started out drilling these things in 75, say 70 to 80 days. And now this one comes in at 51 days. So, you know, a massive improvement. And we're kind of still working a few days off. But we had really good execution on this particular well, the Hodges number one. Drilling, you know, just all phases of the operation went really well. You know, we've got some pretty good frack pricing in place also right now. The well fracked really good. You know, and I'll also point out, you know, you know, one of the big drivers is the lateral length and the length on this one was 11,400 foot or 405 foot. So that obviously is very important in that cost per foot number. Now the numbers that we typically, the numbers that we're kind of putting out on kind of our targets, you mentioned $3,000 a foot, is all kind of normalized to a 10,000 foot lateral. So anytime you have a 11 to 12,000 foot lateral, it's going to generate a little bit better cost per foot and Vice versa, you know, if you're at 8,500 to 9,000 foot lateral, it's going to be a little bit higher cost per foot.
Thanks for that. We are watching with interest, guys. Yep, thank you.
Thank you. One moment for our next question. The next question comes from Carlos Escalante with Wolf Research. Go ahead, Carlos. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my call. Well, first of all, I'd like to start with the horseshoe results because they are certainly encouraging. And I think directionally, this is what the investment community wants to see. Now, I do think that we need to rationalize how this translates into free cash flow generation. So my question, and bearing in mind, because you guys know this better than I do, that not all acreage is created equal. What's the geographical spread of the 64 locations that you think are candidates for this across your Hainesville locations? Thanks.
Good question. So, you know, that is 64 just in the Hainesville. And you're right, I'll just start off. We are very happy with the results on the Sebastianville location. you know we didn't we had no issues drilling the well i'm going to say you know maybe two extra days you know if you compare that to just drilling a straight 10 000 foot lateral uh just didn't have any issues and uh the frack it fracked if you just if you didn't know that it was a horseshoe well you can't tell we couldn't tell any difference in fracking those straight 10 000 foot lateral and fracking the horseshoe uh the whale did frack really good again uh so results look fantastic, so we're super excited about it. As far as the spread of the locations, I'd say they're pretty evenly kind of spread across, if you look at that acreage position, and just kind of from south to north, I think we've got them, they're just pretty much all across the basin. So, you know, we've got them in the 1.6b per thousand, we've got them in the 1.8b per thousand type of areas, up to the two, so I think kind of the answer for you is really it's just spread out across all the acres. It's not really in any specific drip effort spot.
Sure. That certainly helps. I guess your answer provided me with another question, if you will, on that same topic. And maybe this is a bit too early. because the Western Haynesville is still, by all means, an exploration place. But do you feel like you will come across geometry, lease line issues that you have in the Haynesville, in the traditional Haynesville, in the Western Haynesville? And then just to finish up my second question, which is also in the Western Haynesville, what do you expect to be the average lateral length for your program going forward, bearing in mind that you have a harder reservoir and it's it's more difficult to drill.
Okay. So kind of, I think the, I think your first question maybe is maybe how confined we'll be with lease lines in the Western Hainesville versus Louisiana. So, you know, the, really the big difference between is in Louisiana, we deal with, you know, square mile sections, right? And every section's a unit. So we're usually either confined to drill on a 5,000 foot, a 10,000 foot or a 15,000 foot. or later on in the play, we did 7,500 foot laterals. Now we've got the ability to turn the wheelbarrow around in a horseshoe, and so we deal, the lease lines are the section lines. In Texas, you don't have sections. Abstract surveys, you pretty much can build your units, they're more customized, They're much more irregular in shape and size. You're going to have laterals in Texas that are kind of any different lengths between, say, 5,000 and 10,000 feet. You can have some at 9,000. You can be at 8,000. You can be at 6,500, 11,500. Not really. In Louisiana, you're in those kind of specific 5,000, 10,000, or 15,000, or 7,500-foot groupings, but So, really, that's kind of the difference in drilling in one state versus the other. As far as average lateral length in the western Hainesville, I think we're looking at about 10,000 foot average. You know, we've gotten a lot better at handling the bottom hole temperature, so that's really not an issue. You know, I think probably the bigger driver there is not the temperature. It's just, you know, there are some minor faults here and there. So, there's just certain, there's some geohazards in certain places you just, where you can't drill across and have to stop. And so that's really kind of the only driver there. Obviously, we're trying to drill the longest ladders we can now that we're holding acreage. But I see, you know, I think 10,000 is a pretty good number, you know, looking out ahead of what our average ladder length will be. So, you know, we've drilled a 12,700-foot max already. And I think our shortest ladder right now is, I want to say, 7,800 feet. So, you know, we're not having any issues drilling these 10, 11, 11,500-foot laterals. It's just limited by, like I said, fewer hazards or other factors.
Wonderful. Thank you, guys.
Thank you. Stand by for our next question. The next question comes from Charles Mead with Johnson Rice. Go ahead, Charles. Your line is open.
Good morning, Jay, Roland and Dan and the whole Comstock team there. I want to go back to the Sebastian. Well, I can't help but notice that it's the shortest lateral with the highest IP on the quarter. So, you know, I know it's early, but do you think this is just luck of the draw? Or is there something else going on here, perhaps?
It's not luck of the draw. I'd say, you know, all of the horseshoes we do in Louisiana are pretty much going to be about this same lateral length unless we, you know, and maybe I think someday, you know, we'll probably reach out and attempt to do a horseshoe, you know, that's maybe 7,500 foot and 7,500 back. That's way out. We're getting out ahead of ourselves. But, you know, this is... This is kind of about what we would expect from a well in the area where we drill this well on this acreage. So we're not surprised at all. I mean, we totally expected this was going to be the result. And I see this being very, very repeatable.
Got it. Got it. That's good. It's good to have your opinion on that. And then going back to Western Hainesville, I think you've discussed this a bit. It's great to see what you've done with that, Hodge, as well. But as you think of repeating that or trying to deliver a repeat on that, leaving aside the lateral length, what are the pieces of the whole well construction and completion puzzle that you're going to be most focused on to try to get a repeat of that dollar per foot metric?
Well, you know, I think first of all we've got to be – and we have become more consistent – We've had some really good showings, but in the early wells, we didn't have the consistency. So we're becoming much more consistent at basically the really good performance. And so we figure we always get a 5% to 7% cost reduction on pad drilling versus a single well pad. So this is a pretty good number for a single well pad. This well, you know, on the longer ladder, like I mentioned, you know, just a little bit ago, helps with that number. That's going to always move the number down a little bit when you start going over 10,000 feet, okay? And this one was 11,400 feet. So had this exact same well, like I said, we had great execution across all phases. If this would have been a 9,000-foot lateral, you know, this would have been, you know, the cost per foot would have been a little bit higher. And if we would have been 12,000 foot, it would have been a little bit lower than this. So we definitely see the cost. We start doing pad drilling with this performance. We're going to generate numbers lower than this $2,800 per foot.
That's great detail. Thank you.
Thank you. Stand by for our next question. The next question comes from Jacob Roberts with TPH & Co. Jacob, go ahead. Your line is open.
Morning. Good morning.
I believe you've all previously contemplated adding a few rigs next year. And I understand it might be a little bit early to talk about 2025. But given where the commodity price is today, how are you thinking about the timing of those rig ads, if at all? And then maybe as well, if I could tack on what you might consider a balanced program in terms of those rigs at current commodity prices.
Yeah, it's a good question. It is kind of early because we will really be watching the gas market, how, you know, if we have a winner or not, those will be a lot of factors, especially driving gas prices in the first half of 2025. You know, as the second half of 2025, we kind of see some increased demand. So, yeah, that's something we're looking at really hard in deciding, you know, when we bring back the two rigs that we dropped in the first quarter of this year. And as we do have a lot of flexibility and And when we do that, we think we can light up the services when needed, and we have a lot of services we can, you know, with short notices, you know, drop. So, again, want to be very responsive to whatever environment we have in 2025 and, you know, target, you know, having a higher hedge percentage in 2025. That 50% level is kind of what we are going to target. We're at 40% almost hedge now for 2025, so we have a little work to do there, but... That should help us stay more on track than where this year, if the first three quarters, we were a little bit less than 30% hedged.
Thanks. I appreciate the color. Maybe if we could look at the western Hainesville and particularly the midstream areas. Can you frame the current runway you have, what the Q225 addition will add to that runway, maybe in terms of quarters or wells that you ultimately see being able to handle, being able to be handled?
Yeah, that's a good question. You know, as we, with these six wells coming on that will go into our pinnacle system there, you know, that are coming on and, you know, will be at a pretty good rate by the end of January. we start to really hit the treating capacity, not the pipeline capacity of our Bethel treating plant. And we do have quite a bit of backup capacity where we could offload to a couple of other midstream companies that we have a contracted capacity and a good radon. So we can definitely do that. We just would prefer to have it in our own facility. And so that's where the key, a lot of the expenditures that we are incurring now, especially in the fourth quarter and early in the first quarter next year, is really to open up a new gas treating plant at Marquet, which will be on the other end of our western Hainesville footprint. And then that's going to add $400 million a day of treating capacity. So then we'll have a lot of capacity to handle the growth out there. So as that one comes online, we do have the ability to offload and process under these arrangements we put in place. So we definitely won't have any restraints as far as actually producing what we do. And then as we evaluate the program and add more rigs, that's where we'll continue to look and say, do we want to build out additional capacity for the plagues? Great. Appreciate the time.
Thank you. Stand by for our next question. The next question comes from Greta Drefke with Goldman Sachs. Greta, go ahead. Your line is open.
Hi. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. I was just wondering if you could spend a bit more time on the horseshoe wells and the benefits you're realizing there. Is there a proportion of your overall operations that you hope to apply this technique to over time? And do you see potential for any upside to your 64 horseshoe locations that you've outlined? Thank you.
Good question. So we do definitely see an upside as far as the number of locations that will get converted. So these 64 that we've got converted in the inventory so far is just on the Hainesville side. We're still working through the Bossier, all of our Bossier sticks, and we'll probably have a number on that sometime in the first quarter. As far as the number of horseshoes kind of pushing into our development program, being that this news is pretty fresh, we obviously are going to do more and want to do more. For right now in our drilling program, obviously we've got a lot of things in place and it takes a lot of time obviously to get things drill ready and to move around, just a lot of lead time. Our next, we have a single horseshoe that's coming up early next summer is the next project. We got a two-well pad horseshoe, which is the one we talked about on the slide here that is later next year. And we also have a triple. We got a triple horseshoe well pad that will come up behind that in 2026. So like I said, we love the results. It's just that it's hard to add, push a bunch of these into our drilling program that's already been set for a little while on short notice. But I can see more than what we have scheduled now maybe get pushed into the program as we get a little bit more data on this well and have some time to just get the drilling program revised a little bit, which takes a little bit of work.
Well, my only comment would be, if you you know we always high grade our inventory our 1400 locations etc and now the horseshoe will be accelerated to the front of that as dan had said so that's that's a good thing based upon the recent results we just have in in this angel well again we may have you know that many or more in the bozier as we as we keep looking at that in the first quarter of 25. some of the other uh indirect
positives from the horseshoe, especially as we get through the Bossier inventory. In our reserves, it will move these up with much higher economic results. And so even in low prices, some of these can come very economic. And so we see the IRRs on the horseshoe wells being two to three times better than a short lateral Hainesville well that Dan Harrison says three times better. So it makes a lot more of that inventory very economic at lower gas prices. So you'll see some impact and just be able to bring a lot more of that inventory into the approved undeveloped reserves.
Yeah, and I think I didn't really answer that part of your question. So I mean, as far as the performance versus the single 5Ks, our return rate, it basically triples You know, the return on the wells, our payouts will be less than half. If you just look at two, you know, the two single 5Ks versus the horseshoe, we're going to generate $5.5 to $6 million additional PV10 value. And so, you know, pretty substantial.
Thank you. That's really helpful. And then my second question is, I was wondering if you could speak about the outlook for M&A in the Hainesville. Do you expect consolidation to continue more broadly, and do you see opportunities for bolt-on M&A either in the Western or Legacy Hainesville for Comstock from here?
Well, yeah, we continue to keep a good eye, especially on the Western Hainesville, where we've had great opportunity to partner with other companies that want the shallow production or the existing production, and we've been able to acquire the deep rights, you know, and actually have acreage held by production. So those opportunities interest us a lot in that area. And there's been, you know, it's a fairly, the older vertical wells are fairly mature, so they are being divested of by the larger companies that own them. And so we continue to work that part of the M&A cycle. And, you know, there are, you know, still private operators that, you know, have a, a plan to divest. So we expect to see those private companies probably over time be consolidated over the next several years. And probably as gas prices get to more attractive levels is probably what kind of fuels that to start up again in earnest.
Makes a lot of sense. Thank you. Thank you. One moment for our next question.
The next question comes from Noel Parks with 2A Brothers Investment Research. Go ahead, your line is open.
Hi, good morning. Just had a couple. I was just wondering, you mentioned it being important to avoid faulting in the western Hainesville. I was wondering, you know, to what degree you can anticipate those. I don't know if it's seismic or legacy penetrations or anything. So just curious on how you're handling that.
We do have 3D seismic over almost the entire acreage position that we have. And so we got a really good look on mapping of where everything is and got everything pretty much identified. So we don't really see that as any kind of an issue for us. It's just something that we You know, we do when we plan where we're going to lay out our sticks in the development. Obviously, that's a very important factor. But we do have 3D, good data, so we've got a pretty good picture of what it looks like.
Great. Thanks. And, you know, sort of a macro topic, in the starting season, I heard another gas producer sort of affirm a point that you've made in the past which is that lower for longer nat gas pricing and therefore lower levels of activity is likely to make for a tougher ramp-up of industry activity and then possibly that get reflected in a higher peak in gas prices when we see them come back. So we're just another quarter under our belts with prices where they are a little better heading into winter. But just wonder about your perception of that. maybe a weak winter versus, you know, normal winter perspective on maybe where that peak might occur?
Yeah, that's a great question. That's the challenge of the natural gas industry is there is a lot of, you know, demand on the horizon that comes in, you know, pretty large increments. And, but, you know, it's not here today. And, you know, so, you know, near-term gas prices are going to be really dependent on what's the demand for heating in the winter. And that's something we all have to see how it plays out. So in the short term, especially the first half of 25, it's going to be really tied to that winter. Although I think we have two factors that are in our favor there. One is there is startup of new of new demand, you know, on the LNG side, you know, it's up to when the, you know, even today at the highest rate it's been. And, and two, you know, the rig count has been very low. And so production declines, you know, will also be there to, to help, you know, tighten the supply, you know, and as you can see, even for Comstock, you know, we've actually had, even though we cut our activity back in the first quarter, it's not really to the fourth quarter that we really start to see the decline and, we were one of the first to really cut back activity in the Hainesville. We weren't the last. And I think you'll see that a lot of, especially the private operators followed, you know, several months later and you'll see the first quarter, just a lot of that decline really showing up in the Hainesville. So help, I think it helped, you know, help us kind of balance that, supply and demand during the period, you know, compared to last year when we had the opposite, or coming into this year, we had the opposite situation. We had a really high activity level, you know, and a warm winter. And the two, you know, the two kind of created, you know, the big drop in gas prices that we've suffered this year. So it's going to be, I think, a more volatile gas market. And, you know, I think you could have the trying to balance the market. They balance it with price. That's just how the gas market works. So if there's a little bit too much gas, the price drops a lot. If there's not enough gas, the price goes up a lot. And I think we're going to have a lot of volatility in 2025 as these different factors kind of play against each other.
And then, Noel, I'd comment on the defaulting question. I mean, we have major control points for almost all of our 450,000 net acres. I mean, we do have those points. And as Dan said, we've got 3D seismic on the majority of it. And if you look at M&A, a lot of M&A was done, you know, $4, $5 gas price. And the Holy Grail is inventory. You typically do M&A for inventory. Every now and then it's sized if you're small. But a lot of the M&A is inventory. The Holy Grail is inventory. So I think what we were able to do, we were able to go take an old, old gas field, which is now we call the Western Hainesville, we went deeper, just like we did in the core of the Hainesville-Bossier, and we figured out that technically that we can drill to complete these wells and make it competitive with our core. So it's all about the right geographic spot It's about the right drill bit performance. It's about the right EUR. And then all of a sudden you throw in our horseshoe. It makes it a little bit more exciting because, as Dan and Roland said, the RR on the horseshoe is three times better than your typical angel well. And you get to the banks, the 17 banks looking at us, and they look at the whole company and they look at the future, and that's why we had unanimous approvals. It all makes a lot of sense. You just, to your point, you have to weather this storm in order to be there when the bright light and sun comes back out. And we're more than well positioned to do that.
Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Next question comes from Bertrand Donnies with Truist. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Hey, team, just wanted to follow up on the rig count commentary. You did a great job of notifying your rigs late last year to get them dropped by, I think, the end of the first quarter. So it seems like you have a pretty good bit of flexibility on those. Do you have an updated estimate on that, maybe how many months it would take for you to drop or pick up rigs? And maybe just logistically, do you have to do it around December, or is it just as easy for you to do it, say, summer or fall?
Yeah, there's several reasons. Time frame, typically we've got about half the rigs in our fleet that really just require a 45-day notice. So we have to plan around that. And then obviously the logistics of moving a rig out, obviously I'm not going to just pull it out in the middle of a project or middle of a multi-well pad. So it's really all about planning for it. So that's obviously something we're looking at very hard as we as we're pondering our 2025 budget and the right activity level and kind of see how things play out. But it's typically December when we really make these final decisions like we did last year and then hopefully have a good plan to get it in place quickly like we're able to do for the 2024 year.
The one thing that we've tried to do is we've tried to have all of our rigs be capable of drilling in the Western Hainesville. So even if they're drilling in the legacy area, we want them to be qualified if you need to move them over to the Western Hainesville.
That makes sense. And then switching gears to the land leasing program, it seems to continue to be strong. It seems like every time you think you have an idea of how much is out there, you keep finding more attractive opportunities. Is that because of the movement in gas prices, or is the leasing team just kind of hitting their stride, or is your view on the long-term value changing? Just, you know, why do you keep surprising to the upside on that?
Well, you know, if you've spent four years looking at 3D and at logs and, you know, well results, and you have an area, kind of like I said, it's like we were chasing this big footprint and we actually caught it. So if there's a little bit extra out there, I mean, you keep your land group busy to clean up around where you're already leased. And if there's anything else that you need to add to expand a little bit, but I'd give you 90% of our leasing program is in a rear view mirror. And I think if you look at our balance sheet, the debt that we've incurred, that's like a big M&A event. I mean, we have acquired the acreage. We're now drilling it. We control the midstream with Pinnacle. And you see the well costs are coming down. And as I said, the Holy Grail is inventory. If we've got 1,400 locations, the majorities are those in our legacy. I mean, just think of the upside they would have on the 450,000 net acres in the Western Hainesville. That is the goal. So, you know, we just keep cleaning it up. But, you know, you shouldn't expect any quarter where we We spend this $1,500 million like we had done in the past. Those days are behind us. And the reason we were successful in acquiring that acreage is because gas was low. Nobody was out there doing it.
Very well said. And then I just wanted to clarify something. I think I heard a triple horseshoe pad in 2026. Is that three horseshoe wells or is that three sets of two horseshoe wells for a total of six? Thanks, guys.
So that is three horsey wells, which would be, you know, prior to that would have been six 5,000-foot laterals.
Makes sense. Thanks.
One moment for our next question.
The next question comes from the line of Jeff Jay with Daniel and Energy Partners. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Real quick for me. Looking at the horseshoe DNC of about 1,700 a foot versus kind of, I guess, traditional laterals of that length at about 1,400, 1,500. Is there any reason that as you do more of these and get better at them that those two couldn't sort of get closer together? Or is there something about horseshoe drilling that's always going to be a little more expensive? Thanks.
Well, on the completion side, it's really not any more expensive. So it's really on just the drilling side. You know, if you have great execution, it's just the cost of drilling, you know, doing a 180-degree turn. Obviously, if you just equate that distance to drilling straight, it's going to take you longer to drill that distance. You know, bending back around at 180 degrees, you're just constantly, you know, I mean, we're using conventional tools. You're just constantly sliding and turning back around. So that's going to take, you know, an extra day or two, and that's really about the only difference.
Well, potentially, under that number that's kind of reported on that slide. I think that's a fairly conservative estimate, too. It is.
So this was what we projected, you know, before we drilled the Sebastian well. So the Sebastian well right now we got projected coming in, you know, slightly less than $1,700 a foot versus, you know, we had $1,740 is what we had modeled and what we had on this slide deck here.
Got it. Thank you, guys. Yeah, that well, I mean, literally it got IP'd yesterday.
Yep. And that, you know, that was a single, I mean, that's a single horseshoe well. So really, if you do two horseshoe wells, you get that 5% to 7% additional savings from pad drilling. You know, really that, you know, or say $1,680 a foot on the Sebastian, if you do a two-well pad, you know, we should be able to drop that cost even lower. Got it.
Thank you. One moment for the last question. Question comes from the line of Paul Diamond with Citi. Go ahead. Your line is open.
Thank you. Good morning, all. Thanks for taking my call. Just a quick question for you on the 2025 hedging book. It's currently breaking down pretty evenly per quarter. And with the curve currently sitting at around, you know, low threes, how do you guys think about the timing and opportunity of kind of trenching in those that last little bit to bring you up to the 50% target.
But it is our, yeah, we will work diligently to bring that, to get to the 50 cent level. That's kind of our target. And, uh, you know, we added a little bit post the third quarter, uh, you know, gas prices have, uh, been weaker here lately. So it's really up to, you know, kind of finding good spots to do that. And they've got good structures, you know, to, uh, to do that, but yeah, potentially, you know, if we're going to really try to, like you said, we have it evenly spread out, but our production next year will be potentially weighted more toward the end of the second half of the year. So, you know, potentially there's a point where we can, you know, kind of focus on the latter part of 2025 to hit our goals, you know, where there's a little bit stronger pricing available.
You know, I think what we do, we advertise to you you know, whether you're a bank or a bondholder, an equity owner, analyst, that our goal, if that window opens up before we can hedge 50%, that's our goal, and we'll be leaning into that window.
Understood. Appreciate the clarity in that. Just another quick one. You talked about the 57% conversion of Haynesville locations to Horseshoe. I just want to get some idea of where the other 43% kind of sits. Are those have been ruled out or is that just haven't gotten them yet or still under evaluation?
Well, they're always under evaluation, but you know, there's, we can't convert all of them to horseshoe wells because they're, you know, you have some things have to work out to be able to convert. First of all, you have to have two of your, you have to have two sticks together, right? So if you have, In a lot of places, we just have one stick, and so obviously you can't do anything with that. But you also have to have, you know, a lot of this is on these isolated sections where we still have some sticks left, and it's also in areas where we've got quite a bit of development, maybe mostly developed, and we have a few sticks kind of left to infill. So the spacing has to be right. So you can't have two of your sticks on the opposite side of the section that are too far apart to be able to accomplish the horseshoe. So when you kind of factor in all of those different things that you have to have to make it work, that's kind of, that's how we ended up with just 57% of that inventory that got converted.
Got it. So it would be a reasonable read through that you'd probably run into similar types of issues in the Bossier acreage as well.
That would be correct. And, you know, on the Bossier side, you know, if you, If you just look at the acreage and you lay out nothing but Bossier sticks, we got a little bit more of a clean slate to work with, obviously, because it's not as drilled up as the Hainesville. So, you know, we'll still have a lot of ability to drill the long laterals in the Bossier. Whereas in the Hainesville, you know, we got a lot of those drilled and some of these horseshoes are connecting the short. we skipped over and then drilled the short laterals and we were doing the development just because of the economics. And so now that we can come back and you got two of them there, you can hook them up. So maybe in the future we get a little bit more comfortable with maybe how wide we can space the horseshoes. We can maybe convert a few, we just need to get a little bit further down the road on what our abilities are gonna be. I'm talking about how wide You know, maybe right now they're, you know, 1,100, 1,200 feet apart between each side. But, you know, we may be able to drill them, you know, 2,000 feet apart. Where you have two sticks that are left can be drilled 2,000 feet apart where you can, you know, do a big wide turn and hook them up. So I think that number will move in the future. We just need to get a little bit further down the road on what kind of we can do that's kind of within reason. Got it.
Appreciate the clarity. I'll leave it there.
Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Jay Allison for closing remarks.
First of all, I want to thank everybody for staying on the line for a little over an hour. You know, with natural gas prices ranging between $1.65 and $1.90 for the last six months, you know, it's a difficult time for pure natural gas companies. That's just a fact. But what happens in those months really tests your resolve. I want to acknowledge three groups over the past six months that consistently have stood firm. First, our 255 employees who create the exceptional results in both our Legacy and Western Hainesville area. Second, our 17 banks who reaffirmed our $2 billion borrowing base and gave us unanimous approval on our bank amendment to loosen the leverage companies. Third, the Jones family, who in the month of August made open market purchases of 13.5 million shares of our stock for $138 million. I want to thank each of you, as well as our bond and our equity owners. I can assure you we are on the exact right path to be positioned for the growth in natural gas demand that is just around the corner. Thank you for your time.
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