8/7/2025

speaker
Madison
Conference Operator

Welcome to the Curtis Wright Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference call. At this time, all participants have been placed on a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for your questions following the presentation. If you would like to ask a question at that time, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If at any point your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star 2. In the interest of time, we ask that you limit yourself to one primary question and one follow-up. Lastly, if you should require operator assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to turn the call over to Jim Ryan, Vice President of Investor Relations.

speaker
Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, Madison, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Curtis Wright Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference call. Joining me on the call today are Chair and Chief Executive Officer Lynn Bamford, and Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Chris Farkas. A copy of today's financial presentation and the press release are available for download through the Investor Relations section of our website at CurtisWright.com. A replay of this webcast will also be available on the website. Our discussions today include certain projections and forward-looking statements that are based on management's current expectations and are not guarantees of future performance. The use of those risks and uncertainties associated with our forward-looking statements, including the impact of tariffs and our public filings with the SEC. As a reminder, the company's results and guidance include an adjusted non-GAAP view that excludes certain costs in order to provide greater transparency into Curtis Wright's ongoing operating and financial performance. Gapped and non-GAAP reconciliations are available in the earnings release and on our website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Lynn to get things started.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. As you will hear in our discussion today regarding our second quarter performance and the increases to our 2025 guidance we are delivering on our pivot to growth strategy and in turn driving strong results for our shareholders, the team's continued deployment of our operational growth platform is benefiting Curtis Wright in many ways. From internal collaboration on R&D projects to securing positions on meaningful programs and projects across all our end markets, all while driving operation and commercial excellence initiatives throughout the book of business. As a result, we are well positioned to deliver strong financial performance in 2025 and maintain line of sight on the three-year objectives that we provided at last May's investor day. As we look to the next five to ten years and beyond, we see numerous opportunities developing globally that we expect to provide tremendous upside to Curtis Wright's long-term growth. Later in our prepared remarks, I'll spend some time discussing our excitement and alignment with two of those areas of growth, defense and commercial nuclear. With that, I'll turn to the highlights of our second quarter 2025 results. Sales of $877 million represented an increase of 12% year over year, exceeding our expectations and highlighted by strong organic growth of 9%. The primary drivers behind this performance were higher sales in our naval and power segment and continued momentum in defense electronics. Operating income increased 20% year over year, exceeding our sales growth and driving 130 basis points of overall operating margin expansion. Diluted earnings per share increased 21% year over year, which slightly exceeded our expectations based on the higher A&D sales. Pre-cash flow was $117 million as higher cash earnings and improved working capital management drove a year over year improvement of 17%, reflecting nearly 100% cash conversion as we continued to support capital investments across all three segments. We also experienced strong demand in the second quarter as new orders of $1 billion resulted in an overall book to bill in excess of 1.1 times. Starting with our A&D markets, while orders were down slightly year over year, mainly due to the timing of naval defense orders in the prior year, we experienced strong demand within our commercial aerospace market, supporting the anticipated ramp up in OEM production as well as modestly higher demand for our embedded computing equipment in defense electronics. As a result, book to bill across our A&D markets was 1.2 times. With our commercial markets, we experienced strong demand in our commercial nuclear aftermarket, supporting the plant outages and restarts in addition to the contribution from ultra energy. Overall, the second quarter growth in orders builds on our already strong backlog, which is now up 12% year to date, reaching a new record in excess of $3.8 billion. I would also like to highlight our second quarter announcements regarding capital allocations, where the board approved a $400 million increase in share repurchase authorization and a 14% increase in our quarterly dividend, which we've now grown for nine straight years. Both actions highlight our strong track record of financial performance and our dedication to returning capital to shareholders. Turning to our full year guidance based on our first half performance, the strength of our order book and our confidence in our second half outlook, we once again raised our overall guidance. We remain on track to deliver strong results while generating some of the strongest operational growth rates and margin expansion to date under the pivot to growth strategy. Overall, sales are now expected to increase 9 to 10%, and our revised guide represents 100 to 120 basis points of margin expansion in pursuit of a record operating margin in excess of 18.5%. At the bottom line, the strong increases in sales and earnings are now expected to drive diluted DPS growth of 16 to 19% as we continue to compound our earnings at a mid-teen pace over time. Lastly, we raised our free cash flow guidance and continue to expect strong free cash flow conversion exceeding 105%. In summary, Curtis Wright's strong year to date execution provides a stable foundation for our team to deliver another outstanding financial performance. Now I would like to turn the call over to Chris to provide a more in-depth review of our financials.

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Chris Farkas
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Anne. I'll begin on slide four by reviewing the key drivers of our second quarter 2025 performance by segment. Starting in aerospace and industrial, overall sales increased 3% and were essentially in line with our expectations. Beginning with the second commercial aerospace market, we experienced solid OEM sales growth, supporting increased wide-body platforms. Across the segment's defense markets, we experienced modest increases in actuation equipment sales within our aerospace defense markets, supporting various fighter jet programs, and also in ground defense for the enduring shield platform. In the general industrial market, sales were essentially flat overall, despite the ongoing macro challenges facing global industrial vehicle markets. And turning to the second quarter profitability, operating income and margin grew 5% and 40 basis points respectively. These results were driven by favorable absorption on higher sales, restructuring savings, and a tailwind from FX, which were partially offset by increased investments in customer-funded development programs. Next in the defense electronics segment, overall sales increased 11% and were slightly ahead of our expectations. Within the segment's aerospace defense market, this performance was driven by increased sales of our embedded computing equipment on both European fighter jets and domestic UAV programs. In the ground defense market, our results reflected increased tactical communications revenues as well as continued support for U.S. Army vehicle modernization and replenishment. Elsewhere in the segment's commercial aerospace market, we experienced the modest increase in sales for our flight data recorders supporting Boeing aircraft under the new 25-hour safety mandate, and this activity is expected to accelerate going forward. Regarding the segment's operating performance, we delivered strong operating margin of .8% of 110 basis points, mainly reflecting absorption on higher revenues as well as the benefits of our ongoing operational excellence initiatives. Turning to the naval and power segment, sales growth of 19% exceeded our expectations once again, driven by higher naval defense revenues, most notably on the Columbia-class submarine based upon the timing and acceleration of material receipts as our production continues to ramp on the U.S. Navy's top acquisition priority. In the power and process market, our results reflected another solid contribution from the ultra-energy acquisition, which benefited both our commercial nuclear and process markets. On an organic basis, we experienced strong low-teens revenue growth in commercial nuclear supporting the ramp-up in development across several SMR designs, including the X-Energy and TerraPower advanced reactors, as well as increased aftermarket revenues based upon the strong spring outage season for U.S. operating reactors. Regarding the segment's operating performance, favorable absorption on higher organic revenues and favorable mix, particularly in commercial nuclear, were partially offset by increased investment in research and development. To sum up Curtis Wright's second quarter results, overall, we generated a strong operating margin of 18.3%, driving 130 basis points in operating margin expansion on the strong top-line performance. Turning to our whole year 2025 guidance, I'll begin on slide five of our end market sales outlook where total sales are now expected to grow 9 to 10% driven by improved expectations for organic growth in both our aerospace and naval defense markets. Starting in aerospace defense, a strong first half performance, particularly for our embedded computing equipment on C5ISR programs, provides us with confidence to raise our full year sales guidance to a new range of 7 to 9%. Additionally, we continue to expect higher sales of aircraft arresting systems equipment, principally supporting international customers, and we remain on track to demonstrate strong growth in the second half of the year. Within ground defense, our outlook of 6 to 8% sales growth remains unchanged and continues to reflect higher full year sales of tactical communications equipment, as well as electromechanical actuation equipment on ground-based missile defense systems. Of note, we now anticipate sales in this market to decline sequentially in Q3 based upon the timing of -to-date orders resulting from the full year continuing resolution. However, we expect the surge in third quarter orders as we approach the U.S. government September 30th fiscal year end, which in turn will drive strong fourth quarter revenues in this market. In naval defense, we now expect full year sales to grow 7 to 9%, mainly driven by the better than expected first half performance. Of note, sales on the Columbia Class Submarine program, which ramped up considerably to begin the year based upon the timing and material receipts, are expected to decline and stabilize in production over the remainder of the year. Beyond that, we continue to expect higher aftermarket revenues supporting overhauls and retrofits on prior generation carriers in addition to the contribution from ultra energy on UK submarines. Looking more broadly across all three defense markets, our improved outlook reflects approximately 20% growth in direct foreign military sales in 2025 based on accelerating demand from NATO and allied countries. Turning to commercial aerospace, our outlook for 13 to 15% sales growth is unchanged and we remain on track to deliver strong second half growth based on the planned ramp-up in OEM production and the timing of avionics and instrumentation equipment within our defense electronics segment. Wrapping up our aerospace and defense outlook, we now project total sales in these markets to increase 8 to 10%. Moving to our commercial markets and power and process, we maintained our outlook for 16 to 18% sales growth, which continues to reflect the combination of mid to high single-digit organic revenue growth as well as the contribution from ultra energy. Within our commercial nuclear market, continued strength in our order book provides us with increased confidence regarding our full year outlook for higher aftermarket sales supporting the maintenance of US, UK, and South Korea reactors as well as a ramp-up in development revenues across several SMR and advanced reactor designs. Next, within the process market, we continue to expect solid organic growth, mainly reflecting higher subsea pump development revenues. And lastly, in the general industrial market, we maintain a cautious outlook and continue to expect flat sales in 2025 despite the macro challenges facing global industrial vehicle markets and our expectations for modest sales increases in industrial automation and surface treatment services. Wrapping up our total commercial markets, we continue to target full year sales growth of 9 to 11%. Moving on to our full year 2025 outlook by segment, on slide 6, a beginning aerospace and industrial where we are increasing our revenue guidance to a new range of 4 to 5%. This is principally driven by our overall strong outlook in commercial aerospace along with improved expectations across a number of our defense markets. Regarding the segment's profitability, we now expect operating income growth of 6 to 9% and operating margin expansion of 30 to 60 basis points to a new range of 17.3 to .6% as we raise the low end of the guidance range due to expectations for a lesser net tariff impact as well as a more favorable absorption on higher sales. For your modeling purposes, we expect third quarter sales and operating income to improve sequentially over the second quarter results benefiting from higher sales volumes, various pricing and operational excellence initiatives, and a more favorable mix of business. Next in defense electronics, we continue to expect sales to grow 9 to 11% overall reflecting the strength of this business' record backlog, its forward pipeline, and solid growth projections across all A&D markets. Regarding the segment's profitability, our continued efforts to drive margin improvement through commercial excellence and improved manufacturing throughput are now expected to promote further margin expansion. As a result, we now expect operating income growth of 18 to 20% and operating margin expansion of 190 to 210 basis points to a new all-time high range of 26.8 to 27%. Again, for your modeling purposes and based on the timing of revenues in the ground defense market, we now anticipate the segment's third quarter results to reflect similar margins to Q2 but on lower sales. We then expect a strong finish to the year. In enablement power, we now expect sales to grow 12 to 13% reflecting the increased enabled defense market outlook following the strong first half performance and overall solid growth across the segment's defense and commercial markets. Regarding the segment's profitability, we now project operating income to grow 15 to 18% on the higher sales. For your modeling purposes, we expect the segment's third quarter sales and operating income to be in line with our second quarter results while the fourth quarter should reflect a shift in mix towards more profitable end market sales. So to summarize our 2025 outlook, overall we now anticipate total Curtis Wright operating income growth of 15 to 18% and operating margin to range from 18.5 to .7% up 100 to 120 basis points. And we expect to generate these strong returns while maintaining greater than $20 million in incremental investments in total research and development across the portfolio. For your modeling purposes, at the overall Curtis Wright level, we expect total sales to be fairly evenly distributed between the third and fourth quarters while the fourth quarter reflects a benefit of favorable mix on more profitable end market sales resulting in a strong operating margin to conclude the year. Continuing with our financial outlook on slide seven, building upon our first half performance and expectations for continued strong growth, we've increased our full year adjusted diluted EPS guidance to a new range of $12.70 to $13.00 or up 16 to 19%. And based on the timing of sales as previously discussed, we expect our third quarter 2025 EPS to be relatively on par sequentially with our second quarter 2025 results followed by a strong finish to the year. And lastly, turning to free cash flow, our full year guidance now reflects an increase of $20 to $25 million based upon both higher cash earnings and an approximate $15 million cash benefit from the administration's recent changes in tax legislation. As a reminder, our outlook for capital expenditures continues to reflect an increase of nearly $20 million year over year associated with ongoing growth investments. Overall, our free cash flow outlook now ranges from $520 to $535 million up 8 to 11%, which implies an improved free cash flow conversion rate of approximately 108%. Now I'd like to turn the call back over to Lynn.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Chris. And turning to slide eight, I would like to spend the next few minutes discussing Curtis Wright's potential for near, medium, and long-term growth in defense and commercial nuclear driven by the tremendous global demand that continues to build across these markets. Starting in defense, where we are well positioned to capitalize on the continued acceleration in global defense spending. In the U.S., we are aligned to the strategic priorities outlined within the combined FY26 DOD budget and reconciliation bill, including shipbuilding, the Golden Dome program, aircraft modernization, and next generation air superiority, to name a few. Our proven capabilities as an industry leading supplier of embedded computing technology and MOSA-based solutions, as well as our long-standing presence on the highest priority U.S. naval platforms, ensures that Curtis Wright will continue to play an important role supporting both current and next generation pursuits. In addition, we strengthen our alignment with strategic military priorities by consistently investing in R&D while ensuring that we are fully equipped to support our customers throughout the entire program life cycle across all of our defense markets. As a result, our strong position and success as a critical supplier has enabled us to deliver consistent growth in our defense markets and a demonstrated ability to win in any budget environment. Outside of the U.S., the acceleration of NATO and allied funding and the need for advanced technologies to counter emerging threats has provided a meaningful accelerant to Curtis Wright's overall defense market growth rate. As Chris noted earlier, we now expect growth in direct foreign military sales to increase 20% this year, exceeding the mid-teen pace that we have delivered over the past few years, as militaries across the globe continue to improve their operational readiness. In addition, the recently announced expectations for NATO countries to expand the previous defense spending target of 2% of GDP to potentially 5% should provide continued growth opportunities for Curtis Wright. Lastly, as a high-value partner to our military customers, we remain focused on leveraging the most exciting and cutting-edge technologies in the high-tech commercial markets and bringing these capabilities to the practical edge. The adoption and influence of modern advancements such as AI and machine learning and autonomous systems when tailored to defense applications should come to open new doors for Curtis Wright to support these increased technological demands and provide additional opportunities for revenue growth and margin expansion. Overall, our alignment to the numerous critical pursuits driving global defense spending will provide continued opportunities for growth across all Curtis Wright's defense businesses well into the next decade. Next, turning to the right-hand side of the slide, nuclear power continues to undergo a strategic shift with several critical imperatives that are converging, driving nuclear power to a major inflection point, the need for reliable energy, energy independence, and decarbonization. In 2023, we observed the COP28 commitments by 22 nations to triple global energy capacity by 2050, which reflected the broad and growing consensus that nuclear power must be part of a global solution. In more recent news, we've witnessed the U.S. administration's focus on reinvigorating the commercial nuclear industrial base by signing four critical executive orders that are expected to quadruple the country's current nuclear output to 400 gigawatts by 2050, to reform modernization regulations to promote faster and more cost-effective practical licensing for new and existing reactors, to accelerate the deployment of advanced reactor technologies, including peaceful nuclear cooperation or 123 agreements, as a matter of national security, and to promote the construction of 10 new large reactors in the U.S. by 2030. Curtis Wright remains in a prime position to leverage its deep, inertial nuclear experience to serve this global resurgence in demand with technology supporting the entire life cycle from new build to the aftermarket. Next, I would like to highlight Curtis Wright's tremendous long-term opportunity to support the construction of the best-selling houses, AP-1000 reactors, where we are aligned as a supplier of reactor coolant pumps and other critical technologies. As we discussed at last year's Investor Day, we see the potential to generate more than $1.5 billion of growth in Europe alone, likely beginning with awards to support the AP-1000 plants in Bulgaria and the U.S. with an order still anticipated to come in 2026. Of note, we conservatively excluded this benefit from our three-year Investor Day targets. The AP-1000 optionality sitting on top of our strong core continues to grow. Elsewhere, the recent Pennsylvania Energy and Innovation Summit, hosted by Senator McCormick and attended by President Trump, top administration officials, and Westinghouse executives was certainly an encouraging sign for this industry. It signaled a strong U.S. commitment to new large reactor construction that follows the vision set forth in the administration's executive orders. Given their advanced technology and strong government backing, Westinghouse has expressed their plans to begin construction of 10 new large reactors in the U.S. by 2030, which would provide an incremental opportunity of greater than $1 billion for Curtis Wright. Next, the growth of small modular and advanced reactors is expected to be transformative to the nuclear industry. We continue to grow our presence across the leading reactor designers with our $1.2 billion in funding, $1.6 million in funding, and $1.2 million in funding, and $1.2 million in funding, with the potential for further upside as we continue to secure additional content. Last Friday, we were excited to announce our newest partnership with Rolls-Royce SMR to support their global SMR fleet. This was a tremendous first step in our relationship which leverages Curtis Wright's expertise as the leader of the UK nuclear industry and the leader of the UK nuclear industry. We are also excited to be able to provide the latest information and information that we can provide for localization of the UK supply base. Rolls-Royce SMR was recently selected by Great British Energy to provide the UK's first three SMRs, and we look forward to supporting these and other commitments across Europe. Overall, while SMRs only represent a small portion of Curtis Wright's commercial nuclear revenues today, current design and development will begin to transition into prototypes over the next few years, driving accelerated growth in this market. Lastly, as demand for commercial nuclear power continues to accelerate, Curtis Wright is well positioned to strengthen its leadership position in all of these areas to win significant new business today and well into the next decade. This continued momentum provides us with increased confidence in our ability to generate more than $1.5 billion in annual commercial nuclear revenues by the middle of next decade and nearly quadrupled our current base of approximately $400 million. Turning to slide nine, where I'll wrap up today's prepared remarks, the team's consistent execution along with our strong and growing backlog provides confidence in our expectations to generate record financial performance across all major metrics in 2025. As a result, we remain on track to achieve or exceed our three-year objectives provided at last May's Investor Day. In addition, our efficient balance sheet supports our disciplined capital allocation strategy, which includes acquisitions and operational investments, and ensures consistent returns to our shareholders. We have also focused on our ability to consistently generate strong returns on our investments, including R&D, systems, and infrastructure to support our future growth. Based on our success, we have expanded our return on invested capital by more than 400 basis points over the past four years, while staying steadily above the rising cost of capital. Adding to that, we anticipate more than 100 basis points of growth and ROIC this year, while integrating our most recent nuclear acquisition. This serves as yet another proof point that our pivot to growth strategy is working. In summary, there are a number of exciting things taking place across Curtis Wright that build on our strong core of R&D and commercial businesses, and that position us to capture the fastest underlying growth factors in our markets. We are driving strong financial performance, compounding earnings at a mid-team pace, and delivering strong and consistent pre-cash flow generation for our shareholders. Thank you, and at this time, I would like to open up today's conference call for questions.

speaker
Madison
Conference Operator

The floor is now open for questions. At this time, if you have a question or comment, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If at any point your question is answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star 2. We ask that you pick up your handset when posing your questions to provide optimal sound quality. Again, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up, and then queue again with additional thank you. Our first question is coming from Scott Doishell with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

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Scott Doishell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Hey, good morning. Chris, quite a few commercial aerospace companies saw the score, their growth decelerate and some de-stocking had ones, and so their commercial OEM revenue in many cases declined. Curtis Wright seems to be seeing the opposite trend with growth accelerating, so can you speak a bit more as to what's driving that growth acceleration in commercial aerospace?

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Chris Farkas
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Yeah, so I think first it's important to note that we took a fairly conservative position on commercial aerospace coming into the year. There's certainly been more than a fair share of challenges in the industry over the past 18 months or so, so I think it was important that we recognize that. De-stocking is really not an easy answer for us, I mean, given the breadth of our portfolio and our position as a tier 2, 3 supplier, and I think you should look out across our customers and upward to Boeing and Airbus. It's a fairly mixed bag, depending on the platform, the engines, the airframes. We're seeing some positive signals, some negative signals. Overall, we do expect that there will be some adjustments to SIOP that are made here in the third and fourth quarter, but that our customers are going to be able to think about the large growth rates that lie ahead on the major platforms over the next few years. So we think this will become a little bit clearer in the second half of the year. If anything, we think it may temporarily abate some of the strong growth that lies ahead for commercial aerospace manufacturers, but we feel really well positioned with our guidance.

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Scott Doishell
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Okay. And then, Lynn, if I go to the Defense Solutions website, I can find quite a few accelerated computing solutions that Curtis right now has in the market, including these GPU chips that have Nvidia Blackwell chips on them. So just for that context, can you speak a bit as to what kind of product applications these GPU cards are finding use cases for, and also what types of customers are using them today?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's definitely an exciting new area, and I love the fact that you went to the Defense Solutions website and looked at some of our products, so that's pretty good. It's definitely the mention of the tactical edge that really a lot of what's going on in modernization is about taking sensor data, processing it, and acting, whether that's defensive moves or offensive moves, to counter the data that's coming in that sensor. And this is really opening up the ability to deploy those kinds of applications broadly across the battle space where quick decisions is essential. So that's definitely a high level. So that comes in to defensive systems on ground vehicles that sends an incoming missile and shoot something to counter that missile to a lot of other applications like that, but then also merging data from many, many sensors on a more holistic approach across the battlefield to be able to provide a greater picture of the entire battlefield to command and control type of applications for making planning steps. And so there's a lot throughout the tactical edge and back into the command and control, as just a couple examples.

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Nathan Jones
Analyst, Seaport Global Securities

Thank you.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Thanks, Scott.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question is coming from Peter Arment with Baird. Please go ahead.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Yeah, hey, good morning, Lynn, Chris, Jim. Nice results. Hey, Chris, on the defense electronics margin performance, you know, and it continues to be really, really robust. You know, when we think about, you know, I guess it's like 40 percent incrementals, like, how do you think about the sustainability there? And is there opportunities for further expansion just given how strong the performance already is? Thanks.

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Chris Farkas
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, the team is doing an absolutely great job this year, Peter. You know, we've talked a little bit about the restructuring for growth that's been going on within the defense electronics segment this year, you know, particularly focus on throughput. And, you know, one of the great things about, you know, moving product through your shops faster is, you know, some of the improved absorption that you get in that way. But there's also been a lot going on across that team this year in both commercial excellence and operational excellence. And just, you know, taking a look at certain parts of the business that have further opportunities, bringing them up to best practices, you know, when it comes to, I'll call it the operational excellence. But then, you know, there's even been some pricing successes in a few areas of that business. And so it's really a good collection of effort, you know, through our operational growth platforms to drive that improvement. And yes, I do think that there's further opportunities that lies ahead for that team. But we're certainly balancing it, you know, against a couple things here as we move deeper into the year. I mean, we still are going through that restructuring. We're still moving product, you know, across the various business units. And, you know, beyond that, we have a lot of, you know, I'll call it focus disruption this year as the team readies itself for that full-scale ERP implementation that's currently going on. So that'll kind of consume more management attention units as we get deeper into the year. So those are some of the things that we're just kind of being a little bit more cautious for, you know, as we look at the margins. But then, you know, also, we should kind of look at the strong start to the year. You know, it's important to note that we did have some favorable rule next in C5ISR programs in the first half. We had some FX uplift. We expect the dollar is going to, you know, weaken as we get a little bit further into the year, and that's going to put that around. And we do have a strong IR&D ramp that's planned for that organization in the back half of the year. So really pleased with the continued raises and the margin performance, the record-breaking margin performance for that segment. We're optimistic as we go forward, but we're continuing to be cautious in a few areas. Yeah,

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Peter, I only had to... That's okay. The other side of that story is our alignment with where the DOD budget's going and the direct foreign military sales. We have such strong incrementals in the team that our ability to show that we're doing things to accelerate top-line growth. And, you know, that's everything from the NVIDIA partnerships we just talked about to the Honeywell Flight Data Reporters, to our alignment on Golden Dome and Doors. That's going to open to us. And then, you know, our position, you know, our good, strong position that we've had for years, you know, across Europe and, you know, the NATO allies of, you know, the build-out that's really just, you know, beginning there that, you know, is broadly very good margin business to us. So, you know, that's, you know, that, you know, we've got to keep the top line going, too, and we've got a good line of sight on that.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Yeah, Lynn, just as a quick follow-up to the Voice, the Flight Data Recorders, do you see the retrofitting being kind of at a steady cadence between, with the mandate between now and 2030, or is there an accelerant around that? Thanks.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

I think it will accelerate. We were just getting going with people reconciling they have to do this. You know, we've been working for people with production with Boeing for that, you know, been what, you know, been the underpinning of what was part of our guide. And, you know, but I would say the majority of the raise we did last quarter is us getting clear line of sight, you know, with our partner, Honeywell, on how the fleets are going to go about doing these retrofits. You know, and then, you know, I mean, we're still, you know, it's early days, but the mandate, you know, really goes across a good portion of the regional jets. And that's a big area of focus for us. And there's a lot more regional jets than there are, you know, even 737. So, you know, big, big area of growth there. And, you know, we've been pretty open that we're working to be qualified on Airbus. And, you know, that's, you know, anticipated, you know, in the first half of 2026. So a lot of things coming that are going to make that area of growth. It's one of our, you know, as we talk about deep diving, our capacity planning across nuclear, it's another area we're really making sure we're fully analyzing our capacity planning for what's coming.

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Louis DuPoma
Analyst, William Blair

Thanks,

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Laine. Thank you, Peter.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question is coming from Miles Walton with Wolf Research. Please go ahead.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks. Good morning. Laine, I was wondering if you could touch on the M&A pipeline, perhaps what you're seeing there. I know Altura was the last deal in that space, but obviously you're going to end the year here probably with a pretty unleveled balance sheet, excess cash. I'm just curious on the overall capital deployment and M&A pipeline.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Okay. So thank you for that. And, you know, I think when, you know, you probably took note that when we talked on this topic at the end of Q1, you know, we indicated that we had a couple things we were looking at. And we are not going to act on those things that we were in process of looking at in Q1, because they really just didn't meet our strategic and financial requirements. And as much as we clearly state this is the top, our top intended use for our capital, it is not with compromising, you know, our standards. And so we're, you know, the pipeline is not empty, so I'm not applying that. But, you know, there was, I think, a little bit more, you know, line of sight for something coming in the back half of this year and those we've dismissed. So with that, the teams are active, we're out looking, there's, you know, always we're prioritizing companies that are privately held that we can convince to go, you know, exclusively with Curtis Wright. But we're very active in the financial community also. But we will return capital to shareholders. You know, we talked about, you know, raising our dividend and increased share buyback authorization from our board. And maybe I'd ask Chris to speak a little bit to our thinking around the share buyback as our second priority for our capital. Well,

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Chris Farkas
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

yeah, we certainly believe that share buyback is the most effective way to return capital to shareholders. The board increased our authorization by $400 million in May. We now have $534 million in authorization. You know, we still believe that there's a lot in the windshield ahead for us. And we're excited to meet with the board again here in September and have some discussions about the best way to deploy that cash. But, you know, we're certainly not intending to sit on our hands and we're excited about what we can do with that money.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Okay, cool. And then maybe on the Defense Electronics third quarter decline and then reacceleration in the fourth quarter, how much of that is visible based on the backlog? How much of that is conversations with customers? And maybe if you can give us the book to go that you had in Defense Electronics in the second quarter.

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Chris Farkas
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Yeah, maybe what I'll do is I'll just start with the book to bill that we have within Defense Electronics in the second quarter overall, which was about a .9 book to bill. I will say that our orders were up 5% year over year and our backlog has increased, you know, 3% year over year. But it's been kind of an unusual year. You know, we are used to starting off as we have, you know, several times over the past four or five years under a CR. And then we had that, you know, resolved through what we felt was effectively resolved in the first quarter. But the CR has a little bit more nuance to it. You know, it was a 1% increase over the prior year funding levels, but it also provided the government, you know, with opportunities to kind of redeploy funding to what they considered to be the highest priorities. And we think we're very well aligned with those priorities, but it has created some uncertainty and delay in the way that those decisions are being made and the orders are being placed. And the most sensitive business for us, as we've mentioned in the past, given the direct connectivity to the government customer is in tactical communications. So we've seen a little bit more delay in that order book here in the second quarter. Lynn and the rest of the management team have frequent discussions to kind of evaluate the pipeline, the status of where we are within our order book. And we do see a very strong pipeline in front of us. But there will be some timing issues here. We think some of those will be resolved here prior to the end of the government's fiscal year end. And given the, you know, the ship and bill nature of that business, you know, we'll probably see those sales increase here in the fourth quarter. That's our current expectation. So we do have a strong backlog across this business. We're very, very confident in our overall sales guidance for the year, but it's going to put a little bit more pressure on Q3. We will maintain our profit margins, but Q4 is going to be a strong finish to the year from a sales perspective.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Thanks for the call.

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Chris Farkas
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

You're welcome.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Louis DuPoma with William Blair. Please go ahead.

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Louis DuPoma
Analyst, William Blair

Good morning, Chris and Jim. Good morning and great quarter. You mentioned Golden Dome as a potential opportunity. But speaking of a large program, do you expect to play a role with the Army's next generation command and control program with your Edge products? As you said, there's been over $3 billion in funding. We know that Palantir and Andoril received an initial prototype contract, but there likely will be many vendors involved in that one, similar to Golden Dome. So what are you seeing in the pipeline with that program? And just in general, where are you seeing the most demand for your encryption, tactical communications, and Edge computing products?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so we have been involved in that area with that program for several years and definitely see ourselves ramping with it. And you said Golden Dome, but stepping back broadly, there's a handful of new starts going on across next generation fighter jets, next generation rotor wings, the CCA program. And I feel very good about our penetration across those various platforms to be prepared. And some, a winner has been selected. Some are still in competition with two winners. And that's even the XM30 program is another example that doesn't seem to make it to the headlines quite as much. We have solid content across the two players that are competing for final down select on that. So our tactical communications with some really advanced encryption technologies is being very well integrated into the rollout of those programs. And I think Golden Dome is going to be a great driver for Curtis Wright between the computing and our electromechanical acceleration equipment, along with the radars across a lot of the major systems that will be integrated to make Golden Dome working in unison and not as isolated systems. That's a very good alignment with our product.

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Louis DuPoma
Analyst, William Blair

Great. And did you estimate earlier in the call that the AP1000 reactor opportunity in North America is over a billion dollars?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, we just put that out as a reference. And it will be, you know, but again, we're cautious. We are a supplier to Westinghouse. We're working to, we fully anticipate we'll be their partner on that program. But we don't like to get ahead of ourselves of saying exactly what content and how things will shake out. But we need to work hard to be a good supplier to them. And that's the position we're in. So yes, it's a very significant opportunity for us.

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Louis DuPoma
Analyst, William Blair

Excellent. Thanks, Lynn, Chris, Chris and Jim.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

you.

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Louis DuPoma
Analyst, William Blair

Thank you.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Peter Skibitzky with Olympics Global. Please go ahead.

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Peter Skibitzky
Analyst, Olympus Global Securities

Good morning, guys. Nice quarter. Hey, Chris, I think your DCS sales or your direct FMS sales were about 9 percent of your total revenue last year. I'm just wondering, is that levered more so to one segment than another? And I was wondering which of the three segments do you expect to grow DCS sales the fastest this year?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

So maybe I'll just talk about it broadly. And I don't think we've given much color on how it breaks out across the segment. But if you hear the product families, it kind of tells you where it is. So, you know, it's, you know, we've had a long position, you know, with defense electronics equipment of various types, you know, being sold directly into the defense markets across NATO and allied countries. And so that's probably the top area I would call out. Our turret drive stabilization capabilities and mission packages, you know, which is part of defense electronics is definitely poised for some amazing growth. But, you know, there was an announcement out of Germany a couple of weeks ago about spending $25 billion on military vehicles. And one of the vehicles they called out was the Boxer tank, which we had just announced a few months ago. Our partnership, you know, Rheinmetall selecting us for the stabilization equipment and some other equipment on those tanks. And they're going to build somewhere between 2,500 and 3,500 tanks. So, you know, that's a good place. You know, we do a lot of equipment on European-built rotorcraft. You know, it's just really a broad coverage European-built fighter jets. So just broad coverage there. Our arresting system equipment, which is, you know, in the naval and power segment, is definitely well adopted across, you know, around the globe. And when we bought those, we bought the team, you know, as a car about from Safran, we were very open that 75 percent of their sales were outside of the U.S. So that's a great place where we have a great international footprint and it's continuing to grow. And the other area I would call out is our aircraft landing equipment from our team that does, you know, a lot of specialized equipment that's integrated onto the decks of ships to allow helicopters to land and hire sea sates safely for the airmen. And so there's just a couple of the areas. So it's a very good portion of our business. And, you know, we are saying that now I appreciate you referencing the 9 percent, that this year we anticipate our direct foreign military sales will be up to 10 percent of Curtin's rights overall revenues, you know, relating these areas of growth.

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Peter Skibitzky
Analyst, Olympus Global Securities

Great. Thanks so much for the call.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. And our next question comes from Nathan Jones with Seful. Please go ahead.

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Nathan Jones
Analyst, Seaport Global Securities

Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Nathan. Just a couple of questions. You guys have had, you know, really great success investing for growth over the last few years. Pivot to Grow has definitely, you know, has clearly been a success. And you do have plenty of good tailwinds to revenue over the next few years. I know you said you're investing an incremental $20 million in R&D this year. Are there opportunities to further accelerate, you know, some of the internal investments targeting some of these areas that have come to the front in terms of growth over the next few years?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think there will be areas that we will continue to invest in ourselves that, you know, are a priority for us. And, you know, we're not quite to those yet. But, you know, we will definitely have, you know, some significant expansion to do to ramp to the nuclear capacity, which, you know, it's great. We are very transparent with the partners we have in this space as to how they see their ramp going and then therefore their need of our product. And so we're modeling that out. But that's definitely going to drive some incremental investments. And that's not just in capacity planning. There will be some investments in some, you know, building out some products to be, have the right products to supply into some of these suppliers. And, you know, we talk with, you know, the various major players in this space of where we're quite willing to make investments as the opportunity base becomes more clear. So that's one area that's top of mind. I mentioned the flight data recorder ramp that we see coming. I mean, that's going to require some investment. There's no major capital, you know, with it that is, you know, as significant as, you know, really across some of the nuclear equipment. But there's a lot of areas that we can continue to invest in R&D across our businesses that, you know, there's an ever growing capability. You know, if I take our subsea area that we've been investing in, you know, really for, you know, over five years, at this point, it's just taking off. And, you know, we're getting ready to deliver the first pump to Shell. We've been down in Brazil. There's a lot of incremental opportunities and there'll be investments required to be able to ramp in that area. And, you know, I'm not saying it's limited to those. Those are sort of the ones that come to top of mind. But we're very much looking, you know, when we think of our capital investments, you know, we've typically always said that around 2 percent seems to be the right level for us to invest in capital back into the company. I think that may tick up a little above 2 percent in the back of this decade. But it'll be a great situation for everyone that we need to do those investments because we'll have line of sight on the revenues that they're going to be tied to. Hi, Rich Ann Capital. I don't think

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Nathan Jones
Analyst, Seaport Global Securities

you'll get any pushback on investing in that. Here's a high-level question. Over the last several years, you guys have talked about being aligned to the DOD budget and expect to outgrow the DOD budget each year. There's like a 13 percent increase in the DOD budget for fiscal 26. Why shouldn't we expect you to outgrow that budget for your U.S. military business?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

So I noted that you've always taken note of our making that point. And we're very proud of what we've done over the past years and, you know, had good growth and down budgets and up budgets. This is definitely an up budget with the combination of the base budget and the continuing reconciliation. Thank you very much, Chris. I don't think we're going to quite get ahead and talk about what we anticipate coming in 26 yet. But, you know, we are very well aligned to where those monies are being spent and whether that's the shipbuilding and funding for the industrial base, which we are very aggressively pursuing to the communications equipment, to tactical aircraft where, you know, we have very strong historical footings. And whether that is, you know, the F-47 or the MB-75 or the F-15, you know, we really were in good position across all those as doing retrofit on the existing fleet. So I know we're aligned to the right places and, you know, that's added to, you know, our continued accelerant of the direct foreign military sales contributing to our overall defense growth. I definitely think it's definitely in the possibilities. So we'll wait until we get a little further through the end of this year. We really do need to get some more color on the 26 budget. And there hasn't been an FYDP published yet. So some of those things will play into our ability to characterize where our revenues will come. And, you know, you'll hear that guidance in due time as we round out this year. Thanks for taking my questions. Thank you, Nathan.

speaker
Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Michael Chirmoli with Trua Securities. Please go ahead.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Hey, good morning, guys. Nice results. Thanks for taking the question. I think our presenter, Chris, just an update on the Columbia. I think you said the profile stabilizes, you know, then it's down. Can you just give us a general update, maybe, where you are on that, what ship set you're working on, and, you know, does that pick back up in 26?

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Chris Farkas
Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, sure. I mean, as you saw, Mike, I mean, the strength of the Columbia was the number one driver here in the first half of the year. It ramped up significantly. Front-loaded with material receipts. You know, we talked about in the script that, you know, the production is going to lower and stabilize in the back half. But that's really just kind of a shift from material to labor, if not necessarily indicative of what's happening with the ship. But we continue to increase the cadence to meet that desired one per year pace that the customer has called out for. And, you know, as you kind of look at, you know, where we are, you know, from a ship perspective, you know, we certainly had been working on one. And, you know, as you look at one that peaked out in prior years, you know, this year we're working on sub two. We'll probably reach the peak there. And, you know, the production on sub one, we're moving towards that. And again, we're ramping up to a desired nice one per year pace. And I think, you know, more importantly, as you take a look across our total naval business, and we talked about the strong support for shipbuilding, et cetera, we've got a very strong backlog in that business. And, you know, overall a great growth trajectory lies ahead for naval defense at Curtis Wright.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Got it. That's helpful. And then, Lynn, this might just be semantics or minking words, but I think you said you fully expect to be a partner for Westinghouse. I mean, is there a chance you wouldn't be supplying the reactor cooling pumps? And then just thinking about the reactor cooling pump opportunity, when do you really start kind of priming that supply chain? And I know you're thinking of getting that order in 26, but is that supply chain ready to go?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So, again, it probably is more semantics because, you know, we – I just don't like to speak to it in a presumptive manner. When, you know, when we're, you know, working the details out with them, we're absolutely, you know, working with them to plan the, you know, not just the overseas reactors, but the, you know, the 10 new reactors that are to be built here in the U.S. And I think it's just, you know, if you listen to some of the things that, you know, they're saying publicly, one of the real strengths that they believe they have in winning business is not changing the design. And, you know, having a consistent design, you know, that has a very good proven track record that then they can move into, you know, a sequential ramp by, you know, repeated production is very much publicly part of their strategy. And obviously we're the only one to deliver the reactor coolant pump to them. So that, you know, is obviously indicative of, you know, good business signs for Curtis, right? But, you know, we just hold back in our cautious in saying, you know, anything is a given.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Got

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

it. Got

speaker
Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

it. And then just a quick follow-up. I mean, if they do actually start construction by 2030, what's kind of your lead time on that?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I don't know. That's something, you know, we have to work with Wessinghaus on and given our lead time. But, you know, we do still think the, you know, Poland, somewhere in Eastern Europe, most likely Poland will be the first orders that we will get, you know, when we've been pretty consistent in saying sometime in 2026. And we still see that, but obviously they've got to be ordering pumps sooner than later if they're going to be in construction in 2030. So, you know, we're definitely working on our capacity plan as indicative of when we see these orders coming. Got it. Perfect. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Justin Lang with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

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Justin Lang
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yeah, hi. I'm for Christine today. Thanks for taking the questions. Just sticking with the large reactor opportunity in the U.S. with Wessinghaus, obviously appreciate its early stages. But should we think about the economics around domestic efforts looking similar to maybe some of the near-term opportunities ahead of you in Eastern Europe or are there any material differences to note at the outset?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

I think they'll be similar. You know, again, the details are not fully worked out. But yes, I mean, we will provide product to Wessinghaus, you know, at a negotiated contractual rate. And, you know, I think that will be relatively, if not exactly, consistent.

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Justin Lang
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. And then you called out higher embedded computing revenue in the quarter in part related to domestic UAV programs. So when I think back to the 24 investor day, there was some discussion of a runway with unmanned systems building off your role in Triton. So I just hope you could elaborate a little bit on the drone market opportunities ahead of you, just giving some of the momentum we've seen in that specific area. Thanks.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, hers writes a long history of participating in the drone market, but back to, you know, Global Hawk and Euro Hawk, you know, going back well over a decade ago. And so one of the things that's exciting to me is, you know, I mean, everybody sees the images in the news and, you know, understand that, you know, the size of what a Global Hawk was and what people promote now is what the size of many of the UAVs are. And there is a level at a smaller level that would not be an area Curtis Wright would play, little things you see people holding in their hands and such like that. That's not an area that I see any fit for Curtis Wright, but there is a lot in between there. And, you know, our product portfolio is, you know, includes quite a range of size, weight and power compute options that can find applicability across a very large portion of platforms in this. And so there's a lot of things we're engaged in. Not all of them are public knowledge yet, but it's definitely an area where we're very active. And then the flip of that is, you know, the build out of counter UAS technology is definitely a focus, you know, knowing that, you know, the quantities of these smaller, cheaper drones that can be levered, you know, in the workspace. And so that is also an area, you know, not the UAVs themselves, but the defenses against them is a very area where we have very relevant technology. And, you know, that's, you know, asked earlier about some of the applications for the NVIDIA products. That's also, you know, a good use case for it. And so a lot of things. And then, you know, there's all unmanned is there's, you know, unmanned ground vehicles and unmanned water vehicles. And, you know, we're exploring where our product fit is across all of those. Perfect. Thanks.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. And our next question comes from Tony Bancroft with Gabelli Funds. Please go ahead.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

Good morning, team. Congratulations on all your successes. You know, you mentioned earlier about, you talked a little bit about M&A. Maybe just to get a little more into that, you know, you have a large group of great, you know, businesses that you've either acquired or grown from submarine, from the rest of gear, you know, tactical communication equipment, planes. You know, could you maybe just give us some broad stroke priority on if you were to continue doing M&A? I know it sounds like at the end of this year it can work out. But going forward, maybe how do you sort of align those or how do you prioritize those different businesses? Or is there something new that we're not thinking about?

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So, you know, I definitely wanted to be open about, you know, pulling some things out that we had alluded to in Q1. But that does not mean there's not items in the pipeline. So I do want to just be cautious and make sure I don't send some tone. And M&A is absolutely going to be part of our future going forward. And, you know, we've been pretty open over the past couple years. You know, Defense Electronics is definitely a place that we look to acquire, you know, and we have such a great track record and, you know, our global reach of that team. Really, some of these more bold on types of acquisitions, you know, we can bring so much power to how they can sell their product based on the reach of our team that, you know, it usually can be a great fit. And so that's an area, you know, where we can push out the walls on the types of products we do and bring that expertise of ruggedization, you know, to help, you know, broaden the product offering. And so that's, you know, and there's a lot of properties in that space. So that's probably the highest area where we see potential acquisitions. And so we definitely continue to look there. You know, major naval and aircraft safety systems is definitely also, you know, fits our mandate of who, you know, where we drive our product strategies to safety critical types of applications. And so, you know, ESCO was a great example of that. You know, they are absolutely critical for the safe landing, you know, of aircraft on, you know, both, you know, ground and sea. And so, you know, that is an area we'll look. I feel really lucky that last year we were able to, you know, have two acquisitions in the commercial nuclear space. That is an area we look and we're still active. There's not a lot of properties that would, you know, come available there. But, you know, there is a potential in that space, too. And I see those are, you know, broadly our priorities. You know, commercial aerospace is not an area we've been very active. It's not that it's impossible or, you know, off the table. But, you know, we're very purposeful. You know, you probably remember many years ago, you know, five or six years ago, we shed business that was we did not own the intellectual property on and, you know, was a continual margin challenge. And so, you know, we're very careful that we want to grow our businesses in places that really have differentiated technology. That's one of our strategic fits. And so, who knows, maybe someday we'll find something there. You know, probably right now in the industrial markets with, you know, some of the challenges in those markets, it wouldn't be a top priority. But again, select technology that really would give us a differentiator that, you know, we could tuck into that team that would not be off the table. So I think it's one of the powers for our acquisition strategy that we have as a company because we are diversified. We can look at a broad range of books in different end markets and be very selective where if you're very narrow in the end market for your business, you might feel more push. You have to take what becomes available in that market and Kershright's just never going to do that.

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Jim Ryan
Vice President, Investor Relations

That's a great overview. Thank you, Lynn. Great job.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions at this time. I will turn the floor back to Lynn Bamford, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, for additional or closing remarks.

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Lynn Bamford
Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, everybody, for joining us. And we look forward to either seeing you out on the road or at our next earnings call. Thank you. Thank you.

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Madison
Conference Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's Curtis Wright earnings conference call. Please disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day.

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