Ducommun Incorporated

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Due Commons Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to hand the conference over to your moderator today, Mr. Chris Willey. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Thank you, and welcome to Duke Commons 2020 Second Quarter Conference Call. With me today are Steve Oswald, Chairman, President, and CEO, and Chris Wampler, Vice President, Interim Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, and Controller and Chief Accounting Officer. I'm going to discuss certain limitations of any forward-looking statements regarding future events, projections, or performance that we make may make during the prepared remarks or the question and answer session that follows. Certain statements today that are not historical facts, including any statements as to future market conditions, results of operations, and financial projections, are forward-looking statements under the Federal Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 and are therefore prospective. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors, which would cause actual results to differ materially from the future results expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. Although we believe that the expectations reflected in our forward-looking statements are reasonable, we can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. In addition, estimates of future operating results are based on the company's current business, which is subject to change. Particular risks facing to common include, among others, the cyclicality of our end-use markets, the impact of COVID-19 on our operations or customers, the level of U.S. government defense spending, timing of orders from our customers, legal and regulatory risks, management changes, the cost of expansion and acquisitions, and competition. These risks and others are described in our annual report on Form 10-K, followed with the SEC, and our four looking statements are subject to those risks. Statements made during this call are only of the time made, and we do not intend to update any statements made in this presentation except if and as required by regulatory authorities. This call also includes non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our filings with the SEC for a reconciliation of the GAAP to non-GAAP measures referenced on this call. We filed our 2020 Second Quarter Form 10-Q with the SEC today. However, the SEC is having some technical difficulties, so you may not be able to currently view it on their website. Please continue to check as they are working on it. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Steve Oswald for a review of the operating results. Steve?

Well, thank you, Chris, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today for our second quarter conference call. I also hope that you and your families are healthy and continuing to get through this pandemic as best as possible. Today, and as usual, I will give an update on the current situation at the company, after which Chris Wampler will review our financials in detail. The company remains focused first and foremost on the health and safety of our employees. The team has done an excellent job and despite facilities around the country and quite a few in Southern California, the impact is mostly zero. The amount of positive cases across the company less than 25. We also continue to remain diligent on communication and ensuring best practices are followed in all facilities to sustain this performance. Tacoma's second quarter results were strong in light of the unprecedented challenges due to the pandemic in the commercial aerospace markets. As mentioned in our April call, the reasons for the strength is that since 2017, the team has been improving all of our operations, developing and rationalizing the product portfolio, driving new technologies, focusing on providing high value to customers along with pricing, developing an effective cost structure with a flat organization, and making three strategic acquisitions. This is particularly evident in the revenue and order progress over the last few quarters for the commons defense business, along with the overall margin performance for the company. The company's second quarter revenue was down 18.4% year-over-year, all due to the commercial aerospace markets and in line with our communication and expectations. The commons defense business, however, showed great strength, being up 23% versus prior year. Though not ever wanting to show negative growth, the revenue number is impressive from not only the virus impact, but also overcoming $30 million of 737 max headwind in the quarter. The commons defense business, on the other hand, continues to show excellent progress with big opportunities ahead. The majority of the gains in defense included increases from our new weapons systems business, Nobles Worldwide, along with the F-35, Patriot missile, CH-53K heavy lift, V-22 Osprey, F-15, F-16, and other industry programs. Another growth area this year, which I mentioned during our last call, will do common new efforts with UAVs. I'm happy today to announce at this time our first major customer in this new area is General Atomics Aeronautical Systems. We are thrilled to be selected as a strategic supplier by GA, providing critical components on the Predator series remotely piloted aircraft and look forward to many productive years together. The Commonwealth also continues to leverage its preferred supplier agreement signed last July with the former Raytheon Missile Systems business, now known as Raytheon Missile and Defense. The Toll Missile case, a new structures program with RMS, mentioned in the previous call, is now in full production at our Monrovia, California Performance Center. We have two of the wins this year for the Toll Missile, at other Dukamen performance centers in the Midwest. And in total, this one program will generate over $30 million of revenue in 2021. These types of wins have allowed us to build a compelling value story and now track record, utilizing Dukamen's full portfolio of products and services as we move further to drive sales gains at Raytheon Technologies and other defense OEMs. The other real bright spot for the quarter was ending Q2 with a backlog of $505 million for the defense business, which is an all-time record for DeCommon. Total backlog was $831 million for the company, sequentially down from Q1, but still is a great number based on the environment. Defense business grew year-over-year by 38%, bolstered by strong orders across numerous key defense platforms. which included the tow missile, previously discussed, GA, weapon systems for ground vehicles, F-18, Patriot, F-35, Aegis, and others, as this is part of the common that continues to deliver. Obviously, this strength helped offset commercial aerospace order pressure. As in Q1, cost actions have continued with the pandemic and the Q2 737 max schedule changes to ensure we have adjusted our costs. You can certainly see the effectiveness of our actions in both the positive growth profit expansion year over year and a solid operating income percentage. The team has certainly done a great job moving quickly and managing this difficult environment with no material pandemic-related costs incurred. In regards to the Q3 outlook, Our significant backlog in defense, with the many growth programs mentioned earlier, will provide the same strong revenue. However, we see the revenue profile for Q3 the same as Q2, being 16 to 20 percent down year over year. Our comments on the April 30th call were for better sequential revenue in Q3, but this was based at the time of 216 shipments for Spirit Aero Systems in 2020 for the 737 MAX. As you know, this changed later in the quarter from 216 to 125, and now 72. Therefore, this was the main reason we had to adjust the outlook. A real bright spot, though, is that we see our operating income margins now between seven and 8% in the quarter, up 100 basis points, more from our comments in April. As we look to Q4, we estimate that revenue will again be led by defense, but the business overall will be down year-over-year by 14% to 18%, again, due to commercial aerospace. And operating margins will again be in the same range as Q3, at 7% to 8%. As you have seen through the first half of the year, the unprecedented challenges with the pandemic, along with $55 million of headwinds for the MACs, created an historic challenge for the Common and our team. The business, though, has shown great strength due to the many strategic initiatives since 2017, and has clearly made a material difference for the company, our customers, and the shareholder. The Common also has a great long-term future. Despite the current challenges, we look forward to a return to revenue growth for the full year in 2021. leveraging our many defense wins and historic defense backlog, along with benefiting from share gain at Airbus, and also a modest level of recovery for some of our commercial OEM customers. Now let me provide some additional color on our marketing, products, and programs. Beginning with our military and space sector, we posted second quarter revenue of $94.6 million. once again representing strong growth versus 2019, up 23%. We drove revenues across a broad variety of defense platforms, including near every aspect of our product portfolio. As mentioned earlier, we saw increases in demand for our military fixed-wing aircraft programs, with particularly strong shipments for the F-35, F-15, and F-16, as well as top-line expansion for helicopters such as the CH-53K and the V-22. In addition, the Patriot missile system rose again this quarter. We see significant growth across many military and space applications going forward. We also had significant growth on a number of ground vehicle programs, such as the Clowder Leopard. The second quarter military and space revenue represented 64% of New Commons revenue in the period. We also continue to be very well positioned for further growth across our defense platforms over the next several quarters in all sectors, and again, ended the second quarter with an all-time record high backlog. This was an impressive 38% year-over-year, representing over 60% of the Commons backlog at the end of Q2. Within our commercial aerospace operations, second quarter revenue declined year-over-year to $40.4 million, as expected, driven by bill rate declines on the 737 MAX, as well as many other programs impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Tacoma, as stated earlier, has effectively adjusted costs and managed the downturn and is well positioned once rates stabilize and increase over the long term. Tacoma's expansion with Airbus since 2017 is clearly going to be a benefit as we move forward and puts important balance in our portfolio for the future. The backlog within our commercial aerospace sector stands at roughly $307 million at the end of the second quarter, with the majority of the decline attributed to the 737 MAX program. With that, I'll have Chris review our financial results.

Chris? Thank you, Steve, and good afternoon, everyone. As a reminder, When it shows up on the SEC website, you can see the company's filing along with the Q2 earnings release that is already out there for the description of information mentioned on today's call. As Steve discussed, we were pleased with our overall second quarter results, particularly during a global pandemic that has severely impacted commercial and aircraft demand. We remain confident that our ability to flex production at our performance centers while leveraging ongoing strong demand within the military and defense sector will serve us well going forward. Now I'll move to the details of our overall results. Review of the second quarter 2020. Revenue for the second quarter of 2020 was $147.3 million versus $180.5 million in the second quarter of 2019. The performance reflected $17.4 million of higher sales within the military and space sector, offset by $51.6 million of lower revenue from our commercial aerospace customers. As Steve discussed, nearly all of our commercial platforms have been negatively impacted by lower demand due to COVID-19. DoCommon's overall backlog at the end of the second quarter was approximately $831 million. Growth in the military and space sector continues to drive a sustained, solid base of business. As a reminder, we define backlog as a potential revenue based on customer purchase orders and long-term agreements with firm fixed prices and expected delivery dates of 24 months or less. We posted strong gross margins for the quarter as gross margins rose to 22.2% from 21.1% in the prior year's comparable period. The increase year-over-year was due to favorable product mix and lower compensation and benefit costs. Gross profit fell to $32.7 million from $38.1 million last year due to the lower commercial aerospace revenue. We continue to focus on execution and sustaining margins, and where possible, expanding margins, even as overall manufacturing volumes remain under pressure. SG&A was $22 million in the quarter versus $24.5 million last year, as the prior year included $1.7 million of one-time severance expense and execution of current year cost control initiatives. The company reported operating income for the second quarter of $10 million, or 6.8% of revenue, and adjusted operating income of $10.7 million or 7.3%. This compares to an adjusted operating income of $13.6 million or 7.5% of revenue in the prior year period. The year-over-year decline was due to lower revenue, partially offset by higher gross margin and lower SG&A expense. Interest expense was $3.7 million in the second quarter of 2020 versus $4.4 million in the prior year period, reflecting the favorable impact from lower interest rates, which more than offset higher debt levels. The increased debt outstanding was primarily due to funding the company's acquisition of Nobles in October 2019, along with drawing down $50 million on our revolver, which remained as cash on hand at the end of the second quarter of 2020. The company reported net income for the second quarter of $5.1 million, or $0.43 per diluted share, and an adjusted net income of $5.6 million, or 48 cents per diluted share. This compares to an adjusted net income of $7.8 million, or 66 cents per diluted share, for the second quarter of 2019. The year-over-year decrease was primarily due to lower revenue, as noted earlier. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter of 2020 was $20.3 million, or 13.8 percent of revenue, compared to $22.4 million, or 12.4 percent of revenue, for the comparable period in 2019. Now let me turn to our segment results. Our electronic system segment posted revenue of $92 million in the second quarter of 2020 versus $89.3 million in the prior year period. These results reflect a $7.7 million increase in sales to the company's military and space customers, partially offset by $6 million of lower revenue across the commercial aerospace platforms. Electronic systems posted operating income for the second quarter of $10.4 million, or 11.4% of revenue, versus $9.9 million, or 11.1% of revenue, in the prior year period. The performance reflected lower compensation and benefit costs compared to 2019, but both manufacturing volumes and product mix negatively impacted margins sequentially versus the first quarter of 2020. Our structural system segment posted revenue of 55.4 million in the second quarter of 2020 versus 91.2 million last year. The year-over-year decrease was due to 45.5 million of lower sales across our commercial aerospace applications, reflecting current demand dynamics, as Steve discussed, partially offset by 9.7 million of higher revenue within the company's military and space markets. Structural systems posted operating income for the quarter of $6.2 million, or 11.2 percent of revenue, and adjusted operating income of $6.8 million, or 12.4 percent of revenue. This compares to an adjusted operating income of $11.8 million, or 12.9 percent of revenue last year. The year-over-year operating margin decline reflected unfavorable manufacturing volumes, partially offset by favorable product mix. As I finish my update on structural systems, I want to briefly mention an incident that occurred subsequent to the close of our second quarter related to our Guaymas, Mexico performance center. This manufacturing facility is a part of our structural systems segment. Our second fiscal quarter ended June 27, 2020. On June 29, 2020, a fire severely damaged the facility, which is comprised of two buildings totaling approximately 62,000 square feet. Thankfully, there were no injuries. However, inventory and property and equipment in this leased facility were damaged. This has historically been a site where we perform secondary operations for a number of our performance centers. In addition, this location has supported our VersaCorps product line. We have insurance coverage for the losses and expect the majority, if not all, of the items will be covered under the policy. We are currently working with our insurance carrier to assess the losses and work through the claims process. In the near term, we will utilize our contingency plan that incorporates significant redundant manufacturing capabilities, which will allow us to absorb the production that was planned for the Guaymas Performance Center and several of our other performance centers. We do not expect a material change to the production levels, and we will continue to focus on meeting our customers' needs for these products. For the remainder of 2020, the adjusted results we will be reporting will exclude our restructure activities and the impact related to the Guaymas fire. Corporate general and administrative expense. CG&A expense for the second quarter of 2020 was 6.6 million or 4.5% of revenue versus 8.1 million or 4.5% of revenue in 2019. This reflects one-time severance charges of 1.7 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2019. Turning to liquidity and capital resources, we have available liquidity of $120 million comprised of 70 million of cash on hand plus the remaining $50 million on our revolver at the end of second quarter 2020. We generated $8.6 million of cash from operations during the second quarter of 2020, compared to $9.7 million during the prior year period. This performance reflected effective working capital management partially offset by lower net income. We continue to be in compliance with our debt covenants, and our credit facilities do not mature until 2024 and 2025. As a reminder, our leverage ratio covenant ceiling is 4.75. Our leverage ratio was 3.0 at the end of the second quarter of 2020. Cash generation and cost management within our efficient operating structure remains our priority and we expect to generate positive free cash flow for the remainder of 2020. In terms of capital expenditures, we spent $1.1 million during the second quarter of 2020 and anticipate spending between $12 million and $14 million in 2020. This aligns with our cash conservation initiatives and should result in a capital spending decrease of more than 20 percent versus 2019. These estimates do not reflect the incremental spending required to replace the manufacturing capabilities damaged in the fire in Guaymas. We expect the majority, if not all, of the spending to be funded from insurance recoveries. Employee safety is always top of mind, even as we continue to focus on cost management, flexing our performance center production schedules, and optimizing working capital as we move forward. Our Q2 performance was a result of a strong resilient effort by all the Dukama employees who remained focused on execution and satisfying the customer's demands during this very challenging period. I'll now turn it back over to Steve for his closing remarks. Steve?

Okay, Chris, thank you. Well, certainly first, I hope we have provided some important information today as we work through 2020. Again, I thought the second quarter was strong despite the challenges and believe we have a lot of runway ahead in the long term. I'd also add that we do have the right footprint, cost structure, discipline, and operational leadership and experience to continue performing in the face of the current crisis. I also want to thank our customers, shareholders, and all of our business partners for their continued support as we work through these difficult times together. We've also given out now $1 million to the local area charities where we operate to help our neighbors and communities. In closing, I would like to again this quarter take this time to tell the common employees that I'm proud of them and all their efforts dealing with the many challenges from the pandemic. Our team members show up at our operations every day, and they'll stressful get the job done for our customers and nation. With that, let's turn it over to some calls, please. Thank you. Miga, can we please pull up our first call, please?

As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. Your first question comes from the line of Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Your line is now open.

Hi, good afternoon, Steve and Chris.

Hi, Ken. Ken, how are you?

Oh, pretty good. Hope you guys are well.

Good, thank you.

Hey, Steve, I just wanted to first ask, sequentially, margins in the structural system segment showed a really nice increase. Was that mix or predominantly, or was there anything else going on, obviously, with the down volume?

Yeah, I mean, I'll take that one. Yeah, so on structures, Ken, it was a couple things. I mean, mix was a big part of the play, for sure. Q1, you know, So you look sequentially, Q1 was sort of a perfect storm in terms of we came into Q1, you know, where we had demand that during that quarter started to get pushed out with Boeing and Spirit, and the pandemic was sort of hitting right there at the end as well. So we had a lot of ripple effect on the costs and being able to absorb as cleanly as we'd like, certainly in Q1. Along with the mix, that put us in a tough spot for the number in Q1, and that's why that margin for Q1 was lower than it had been for several quarters. And then in Q2, mix changed a little bit. That certainly helped us. But also, some of the initiatives and sort of the realignment and flexing that was taking place during Q1, at the end of Q1, and as we got into Q2, helped clear the path for a better performance.

Yeah, Ken, we're obviously, you know, day-to-day, week-to-week managing costs and driving productivity. And, you know, I think we have a, you know, the way we have it set up, these performance centers are able to react quickly and and move costs out as appropriate.

Okay, no, that's great. And as I look at the revised outlook for the second half of the year, I think coming out of the first quarter, you were sort of talking about top line down 10%, and now it's sort of mid to high teens between the two quarters. Is that exclusively the max, or is there anything else that's maybe come out of the schedule or maybe helped offset the max relative to first quarter?

Yeah, so look, we talked to you on April 30th, and Being we're in this situation, I felt it was appropriate, you know, where we don't really, really didn't give that in the past, be a little more granular. And as we said, we were going to be 16 to 20 down. In Q2, we came in at 18.4, which is pretty much where we were. On April 30th, Ken, we still had 216 in the book for Spirit. And, you know, as you know, by the middle of June, that changed. Okay. So, you know, we looked at it. We're really, again, going to be 16 to 20 down. That's, you know, the best effort we can give right now. And then we're going to get a little better in Q4, 14 to 18.

No, I appreciate the guidance. It's very helpful, Steve. And just one final question. Have you adjusted your schedules yet to reflect the sort of downward revisions from Boeing on the 787? Maybe if you can just talk about sort of what level you're shipping at at that program or how much of a headwind that could be for you over the next couple of quarters.

Yeah, you know, that's sort of the big context, I feel. You know, look, we've had a great run, you know, since I showed up in 2017 and through, you know, 2019 on the MAX and the 737NG, and that's all, you know, that was all terrific. Obviously, you know, lots of things have changed, as you know. We are managing it both with Boeing and Spirit. We really have adjusted everything. you know, our order books and our production down. So when we give you this information for the second half of the year, we feel good about it.

Excellent. Well, really nice quarter. Thanks a lot.

Yeah, Ken, thanks. Appreciate it, Ken.

Next question comes from the line of Michael Caramoli from Centros. Your line is now open.

Hey, good evening, gentlemen. I'll echo Ken's comments. Nice quarter here given the current operating environment. Just to go back to maybe stay on the margins a little bit, obviously the good sequential improvement in structural systems. But what's been the biggest, you know, if you look at that original forecast, April 30th, you know, you had that five and a half to six percent, you know, and now you've raised that in second half. Is that just You know, more cost takeout? Has anything changed with MIX regarding the defense profile? You know, anything else that's changing from a margin standpoint, or are you guys just taking out more cost or taking out cost more aggressively?

It's a combination. So the cost takeout that we did, you know, as we entered Q2 helped, and we got to sort of see, you know, what that meant to us. And then, you know, there have been additional activities because it's, as everybody's talking about, it's been a very dynamic process. scenario. And so that has been certainly a part of it. But also it's just seeing the sustainment of or seeing how structures react to that and sort of where they can come back to along with, you know, this additional defense business and what that will do for us. So I think it's a combination and, you know, it's what will be, you know, we'll keep working it as we move through the second half of this year.

Yeah. Mike, let me add one thing. I think the other story here is that, you know, and I know other companies, you know, had to to do what they've had to do, but we did a major restructuring back in November 2017, and as you go forward through time here, we really have a flat organization, especially at corporate, and I think we have an effective organization in that spirit. So that's the other thing that's happening this year is that it's paying off that we really haven't had a lot of cost back since that November 2017 restructuring.

Got it. And you've mentioned value based pricing a couple of times on this call already. Anything, you know, especially as rates have gone down, have you been able to you know, I know on the way up with rate, all we kept hearing about was, you know, partnering for success, you know, pressure on rates, you know, the higher volumes and anything you can get back on pricing or have you in the commercial side? And, you know, it sounds like you're getting it on the defense side.

I'm not going to go into specifics, but if you look at our strategy and where we've been and where we're going, we're heavily into titanium. We're heavily into other types of processes where they're sought after, a little less competition, and we're really driving that. Quite frankly, as I've mentioned in my remarks, I mean, we've gotten a lot better the last few years on operations. So our customers are very happy with us.

Got it. And then just on the backlog, specifically the commercial aerospace side, is that Have you guys actually seen, you know, order cancellations from customers? Is that you guys just how you calculate the backlog based on, you know, production rates or what was really driving the backlog erosion there? You know, is it more customer adjustments and cancellation?

Yeah, I mean, so we do have a couple questions, I think, embedded there, Mike. But the first thing is, you know, it's the actual, you know, purchase orders that we have in there and the demand that we have in there from the customers. there's constant conversation with them. What have we seen this quarter that's a little different than many other quarters? More conversation about pushing some things out, whether it was the rate changes that Steve alluded to or others. So I think not cancellations in terms of anything of any magnitude, but more some push outs that have happened, but by and large, You know, it's a tough market, and, you know, we're dealing with it. Yeah.

And, Michael, let me just add on here that the whole, I think it goes all into my remarks earlier about in the spirit of cancellations. I mean, like I said, with Titanium and a lot of things that we do is that, you know, we're in a great market position there. So we do have to make some adjustments. We're fairly conservative with our backlog. I think that's a good thing. But you know, the other, I think story here is that, you know, to break half a billion and in defense backlog for the first time is a big deal.

Yeah, no, no, agree. And maybe I'll just ask one more on defense. And she brought up that the win with General Atomics, you know, and you called out predator, can we assume this might be, you know, maybe I'll use this term loosely, but tip of the iceberg, do you have Do you have more options within the General Atomics portfolio? I know they're working on some lower-cost-grown technology now, but do you think you can further penetrate them after this win here?

Yeah, we absolutely do. I know on April 30th, Mike, you asked me who the customer was, and I couldn't tell you, so at least I gave you General Atomics this time. Okay, pal?

Yeah, exactly.

All right, so I'm delivering for you. Anyway, no, but we're – First of all, we're thrilled. I mean, you know, GA is a leader, you know, and we're building some great relationship and some great things there. And we think we got lots to go there, and we think, you know, they're a terrific customer to be with.

Very good. I'll jump back in the queue. Thanks, guys. Okay, thanks.

Bye. Next question comes from the line of Mike Crawford from B. Riley. Your line is now open, Mike.

Thank you. Hey, on the gross margins, is that an all-time record? I went back, the highest I could see was 21.7% back in the second quarter of 2010.

Yeah, I believe. Back in the, a little earlier back in that decade, we would have popped one a little bigger, but this is certainly since the LaBarge acquisition in 2011, this is a high watermark with a lot of things clicking in.

And Mike, from our remarks, I mean, this, I just want everybody on the phone to understand, this doesn't happen by accident or just, you know, all boats are up in the defense industry. I mean, we've put a lot of time in the last couple of years through my remarks earlier to really put us in the position where we're delivering these margins despite you know, some real tough news on the commercial era side.

Okay, that's great. Thank you for that. Just regarding not by accident, with the increase in working capital, the inventory is up. Was that not by accident? Is that to plan for some of these new military programs, or is that more of a function of structural slowdown where you're gearing up for a certain number of units on the 737? And where do you want to see these accounts going forward?

Yeah, no. So the answer there, Mike, is a little bit of both. So we have certainly some places where we are on new programs or we're building up to some extent. But definitely as we went through that turbulent Q1 into Q2 period, there was expectation. And certainly we have a lot of long lead time material that goes into being able to build some of the complex components. And turning that off correlated to the demand change. you know, can have some leakage there as well. So where do we want to go? I mean, we'd like to, we certainly would like to, you know, as Steve alluded to, we're not showing, you know, terrific growth here in the second half of the year. So we would like to be able to manage the inventory, you know, appropriately as we go through the year.

Okay, thanks. And then final question just relates to Glymus, how that might affect Versacore deliveries to Airbus and the status of Versacore manufacturing in general?

Yeah, so to circle back on Guimus, again, let's break it into two pieces. There's a lot of secondary operations that we've done down there, you know, for years since we've had a presence in Guimus. And for those, we have, you know, we have capabilities back in the plant where the primary operations were coming from. So literally, it's just redeploying where we're going to finish that product out. The part that relates to Versacore, there has been some investment that's been done there. And in that case, we are retooling at one of our other facilities here in Southern California and getting back online as quickly as we can. And in doing that, we do not view there being a significant change in being able to hit you know, what we need to do to deliver for, you know, the river on it.

Yeah. And, Mike, let me just chime in here. Look, we're, as you know, and I know you follow it versicore, look, we're very upbeat about it. The other thing I'll mention is that the GM for the business, as well as certain members of his team, are actually, they're based out of Gardena, California. So, you know, that was the other thing where, We do have, you know, we certainly are disappointed and first glad no one got hurt, but you were able to move pretty quick with the Gleiman's production, and, you know, we're going to work out of this thing fine.

All right. Thank you very much.

Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. Cheers.

Once again, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press a pound or hash key. And you have a follow-up question from Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Your line is now open.

Yeah, hi. I just had a couple of quick follow-up questions. The first, on Nobles, can you remind us again maybe what the contribution to growth was in the quarter from Nobles, and how has that acquisition been going? It seems like there's been some opportunity for them to maybe take some share or grow a little faster than you anticipated. Can you just maybe comment on that specifically a little bit?

Yeah, Ken, this is Chris. I'll address it. So with the acquisition and the size of the acquisition, similar to LDS and similar to CTP, small enough we didn't put in a lot of information related to their size of the financial statement. So as those three tuck-ins have come in and as NOBLES has come in, certainly that's a nice help to our structure story as we move forward. But there's no specific dollar amount sort of thrown in there. Having said that, the acquisition's gone very smoothly. And, you know, we have been very happy with not only them continuing on with the way that they were pre-acquisition, but also them finding ways to grow. And Steve alluded to the clouded leopard, but there's some other ways there, too, that they're going to continue to find ways to grow. We believe that they will grow, you know, even quicker than what we thought at the time of acquisition.

Yeah. And, Ken, let me just chime in as well. So, you know, look, you know, Nobles... it's been on aircraft, okay, and marine. Now we're moving into ground vehicles and obviously the cloud of leopard and some other things. So, it's been going very well. You know, this ammunition shoot business is, you know, something that we've, you know, we're the market leader. So, you know, we're driving it and we're absolutely, I think they're going to, you know, have great things in 2021 as well. So, It's all thumbs up for Nobles.

That's good to hear. And, Steve, since you've been there, you've done roughly, you know, sort of an acquisition a year. I'm just curious if you can comment on sort of what you're seeing now in terms of activity and opportunities and maybe how the pipeline looks and maybe the period of time until things maybe start to normalize a little bit.

Sure, Ken, thank you. So, you know, so there is a pipeline, okay? So, you know, we are active. I think one of the best things we did was bring in Suman Mukherjee. Suman leads the BD department and, you know, a lot of experience at UTC and worked with me at KKR as well. And so I think, you know, I think we've got the right process. We've got the right people. Pipeline is okay. I mean, certainly we're looking at things. As far as our cadence, you know, and I think that we're – We want to be aggressive and we want to lean in, but we don't want to rush. And I think if you look at our last three deals, they've all worked out really well for shareholders and for the company and for just in general. So our cadence is if we find something we like, we go after it. We have a pretty successful record for being able to close. over the last couple of years. More to come on that, Ken. It's important to us.

I know it's been obviously a big part of the success over the last few years. If I could, just one final question, Steve. There's been some suppliers that have been talking about the new, I guess what they're calling the Premier Bidder Program from Boeing. I'm just curious. Obviously, it's not a complete PFS type replacement, but I'm curious if that's something you've had discussions on, if maybe you've signed up for that, or how you're viewing that, and maybe some of the opportunities to invest a little more for maybe an uptick on some volume.

Yeah, Kent, just so you know, we haven't had any conversations with Boeing yet on that.

Okay, perfect. All right, you guys, thank you.

Okay, Kent, thank you very much.

At this time, there are no further questions in the queue, so I'll turn the call back to Mr. Oswald for any closing remarks. Okay.

All right. Well, thank you very much. I just want to, again, wish everybody good health for yourself and for your families. And we certainly hope things, when we talk to you next time, things will be better on the pandemic front. Just want to wish everyone, again, a good evening. And we'll look forward to speaking to you again soon.

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