Deluxe Corporation

Q4 2021 Earnings Conference Call

2/3/2022

spk00: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Deluxe Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode, and today's call is being recorded. We will begin with opening remarks and introductions. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to your host, Vice President of Investor Relations, Tom Morabito. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you, Operator, and welcome to the deluxe fourth quarter and full year 2021 earnings call. Joining me on today's call is Barry McCarthy, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Scott Bomar, our Chief Financial Officer. At the end of today's prepared remarks, we will take questions. Before we begin, and as seen on this slide, I'd like to remind everyone that the comments made today regarding management's intentions, projections, financial estimates, or expectations about the company's future strategy or performance are forward-looking in nature, as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These comments are subject to risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, risks related to COVID, the risk that the company's recent acquisition of First American Payment Systems or any other acquisitions does not produce anticipated results or synergies, and the risk that any future acquisitions or divestitures will not be consummated. Any of these risks and uncertainties could cause our actual results to differ materially from our projections. Additional information about factors that may cause our actual results to differ from projections is contained in our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021, and in other company SEC filings. On the call today, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. In our press release, our presentation, and our filings with the SEC, you will find additional disclosures regarding the non-GAAP measures, including reconciliations of these measures to the most comparable measures under U.S. GAAP. Now I'll turn it over to Barry.
spk02: Thanks, Tom, and good morning, everyone. Deluxe delivered strong and historic 2021 results. We reported full-year sales-driven growth the first time in nearly a decade. along with adjusted EBITDA margins of over 20%. We promised this outcome in 2020 and affirmed it again last February in our 2021 guidance. Our fourth quarter was especially strong as we delivered sales-driven growth in all four segments. In short, our transformation into a sales-driven, trusted payments and business technology company is real. and our one deluxe sales model works. During the quarter, payments performance was driven by the positive results from First American and growth on our digital payments and receivables businesses. Importantly, for the first time in our 106-year history, we expect payments to equal checks as our largest business by revenue as we exit 2022. First American has 13% year-over-year revenue growth on the quarter, once again exceeding our expectations. First American is clearly benefiting from the deluxe halo, our strong reputation, solid balance sheet, and deep customer relationships. The deluxe halo is real. And by plugging First American into our one deluxe sales model, we're accelerating their growth. Cloud growth was driven by data-driven marketing. Promotional solutions benefited from the implementation of key wins from earlier in the year. And checks performance was driven primarily by new competitive wins and business checks. Before I go into the highlights for the quarter and year, I want to acknowledge my fellow Deluxers for their continued hard work and commitment to our customers in what was, once again, a challenging year due to COVID and more. Our significant progress on our transformation would not be happening without their dedication and unwavering commitment. Now to the consolidated highlights for the quarter. Revenue is $571 million, up 25.5% year over year, not including the positive impact of First American. Sales-driven revenue was up 6.8%. This was the second strongest quarterly performance since 2012. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.5%, which was in line with our expectations. For full year 2021, revenue was $2 billion, up 12.9% year over year. Not including the impact of First American, revenue was up 2%. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.2%, down slightly from last year's 20.4%. In 2021, we also maintained our commitment to ongoing financial discipline and to maintaining a healthy balance sheet, which Scott will touch on in a moment. Moving on to some segment revenue highlights. For the fourth quarter, our payment segment grew 114% year over year, driven by the performance of First America. Excluding First American, revenue increased more than 5% with growth in our other major businesses, particularly receivables, payroll, and HR. Our payables as a service offerings, which include our deluxe payment exchange and medical payment exchange, continue to experience strong growth. Next, Cloud Solutions had another solid quarter, growing nearly 6% year over year, Importantly, excluding business exits from 2020, Cloud's growth would have been nearly 11% for the quarter. Cloud's performance benefited from sales wins and positive impacts of a recovering economy in our data-driven marketing business, or DDM. Now on to our promotional solution segment. Promotional Solutions had a strong quarter, improving nearly 9% year over year, positively impacted by the PNC deal we announced earlier in 2021. PNC is a great example of the one deluxe strategy as we're now providing multiple products to the nation's eighth largest bank after initially only providing one. Finally, our very profitable cash generating check business also had a strong quarter, growing just over 6% year over year, which is significantly better than long-term industry trends. The performance was largely driven by new wins, solid growth from business checks, and the successful onboarding of new clients. Next, I'd like to take a moment to reflect on what was a momentous 2021 as we continue our transformation that began in late 2019. As I mentioned, our One Deluxe model works. We reported full year sales driven growth for the first time in nearly 10 years. We're very proud of this achievement. This was my promise when I became CEO, to grow our Deluxe portfolio of products and to sell more to both existing and new customers. As further evidence of the success of One Deluxe, In 2021, we achieved the third consecutive year of record sales performance. In 2021, we sold four of the top 10 deals in the last 10 years. Since beginning the One Deluxe approach late in 2019, we've closed 12 of the top 20 deals of the last 10 years and closed the single largest deal in the company's history. Now let me touch on some of the key wins during the quarter. In payments, during the fourth quarter, we signed one of the largest healthcare payers in the United States to our medical payment exchange solution, or MPX. This company is the fourth payer in 2021 that committed to issuing payments through MPX, and our solution solved for their major strategic goal of moving to electronic payments. MTX digitizes the disbursement of healthcare payments, including explanation of benefits, saving time and expense for the customer. Another key win was with Melio, a fast-growing payments company with investments and partnerships with some of the major players in the tech world. Melio focuses on giving small businesses a way to digitally manage their B2B payments and receivables, and will be using the Deluxe Payment Exchange, or BTX, to send B2B checks digitally to participating lockboxes. In our cloud business, a key win was with a large real estate financing customer. Here we were able to solidify its direct marketing business through an optimization approach designed to analyze recent data-driven marketing campaign responses. Cloud also won a contract with Pentagon Federal Credit Unions. This exciting strategic partnership will help test and facilitate member retention strategies with the nation's third largest credit union, with $25 billion in assets and over 2.3 million members. In our checks business, we recently announced two significant value-creating developments. First, we're installing new HP printers to augment our check and promotional solution segments with digital and print-on-demand technology. These new capabilities will help manage fixed costs, enable us to quickly build new products and implement new customer requirements faster, creating new revenue opportunities. With this technology, we have already expanded premium check and overall print design options. Second, this long-term investment has enabled us to win one of the largest non-bank distributors of personal checks, the Bradford Exchange. The Bradford Exchange provides innovative, high-quality art in a variety of collectible and consumer products, including checks, with millions of repeat customers. We won Bradford away from their long-term supplier, our chief check competitor. We are now well positioned to win even more. Another significant highlight of 2021, and consistent with our strategy to make meaningful platform acquisitions, we made the largest acquisition in our history, First American. First American gave us an immediate leadership position in a strong secular growth market complementary to our existing businesses. First American also brought us a platform on which we can further grow and gain scale advantage, driving future leverage and positioning us for revenue and profit growth going forward. As I mentioned earlier, The Deluxe Halo is real. Our strong, trusted reputation, excellent balance sheet, and deep customer relationships provide a strong foundation for which First American can grow. We simply plug First American into our One Deluxe model, and it works. And it's working really well. First American was historically a low, mid-single-digit revenue growth business. Since it's a part of One Deluxe, First American has been growing double digits, which is better than our expectations. Additionally, First American is already successfully selling Deluxe products like HR payroll, payables, receivables, and web hosting into their base, magnifying our success. As further evidence of the One Deluxe halo and One Deluxe success, First American closed three times as many financial institutions in the back half of the year as they would normally. Cross-selling to our approximately 4,000 financial institutions and 4 million small business customers is not limited just to First American. We achieved significant tele-sale success with increases in average order value and items per order across the company in addition to the enterprise-level wins I mentioned earlier. One Deluxe works, and our transformation is real. In summary, Deluxe delivered strong fourth quarter and full year results, furthering our transformation into a payments company just as we promised. To recap, during the year we delivered the following. We reported sales-driven full-year revenue growth for the first time in nearly a decade, more than replacing secular check declines with profitable new and sustainable revenue. Second, we completed the largest acquisition in our history in the second quarter, First American, giving us a strong market position. First American is performing well above expectations, proving the one deluxe model works and the deluxe halo is real. Third, all four segments demonstrated sales-driven growth in the fourth quarter. Fourth, we expect that as we exit 2022, payments will equal the check business in terms of revenue, a first in our long history and a critical milestone in our transformation. And finally, even with COVID, inflationary supply chain and labor pressures were driving transformation. We said what we would do, and we did what we said. We're looking forward to continuing our revenue momentum into 2022 as we add new sell-through partners and payments in cloud, continue to innovate and grow our pipeline, and actively manage the portfolio. Now, we'll turn it over to Scott, who will provide more details on our financial performance.
spk06: Thank you, Barry, and good morning, everyone. Let's go through the consolidated highlights for the quarter and year before moving on to the segments. For the fourth quarter, we posted total revenue of $570.6 million of 25.5% year-over-year. Not including First American, revenue came in at $485.5 million of 6.8% year-over-year. We reported fourth quarter gap debt income of $13.8 million or 32 cents per share in the quarter. Compared to the prior year fourth quarter, gap net income was impacted by $13.7 million in acquisition amortization, as well as increased interest expense, both related to the first American acquisition. We also incurred increased tax expense related to the repatriation of $85.3 million of cash from our Canadian operations. Adjusted EBITDA came in at $117.1 million, while adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.5%, down from 20.9% in last year's fourth quarter. Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA was impacted by planned technology investments and inflationary pressures, offset by pricing actions and operating leverage from strong revenue growth. Fourth quarter adjusted EPS came in at $1.26, down from $1.38 in last year's fourth quarter. This included an 11 cents per share impact from the previously mentioned cash repatriation. For the full year, we posted total revenue of $2.02 billion, up 12.9% year-over-year. Not including First American, revenue came in at $1.83 billion, up 2% year-over-year, at the high end of our guided range. We reported full-year gap net income of $62.8 million, or $1.45 per share for the year. On a GAAP basis, the First American acquisition was diluted due to $29.5 million in acquisition amortization, as well as $18.9 million in transaction costs. The incremental interest expense resulting from the acquisition was offset by the operations of First America. Full-year adjusted EBITDA was $407.8 million, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.2% down slightly from last year's 20.4%, due primarily to business mix. Full-year adjusted EPS came in at $4.88, down from $5.08 in 2020. As mentioned in the quarterly results, EPS was impacted by incremental tax associated with the repatriation of cash from our Canadian operations, as well as a higher share count. First America was slightly accretive to full-year adjusted EPS. Now turning to our segment details. Payments grew fourth quarter revenue 114.5 percent year-over-year to $167.3 million, largely driven by the acquisition of First American and sales-driven growth for standalone deluxe. Excluding First American, payments revenue increased 5.4 percent year-over-year. In addition to First American's strong performance that Barry mentioned, we experienced growth in our core payments business. Including First American, adjusted EBITDA increased 93.8% in the quarter, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.6%, down 220 basis points due to inflationary pressure in our lockbox business, partially offset by price increases, as well as increased investments in IT, sales, and marketing. First American was slightly accretive to payment's adjusted EBITDA margin for the quarter. With the addition of First American, our payment segment has more than doubled in size, As Barry mentioned, this is an important milestone in our transformation to becoming a payments company. And once again, we expect payments to equal checks as our largest business by revenue as we exit 2022. For the year, payments grew 69.1% year-over-year to $510.4 million, driven by the acquisition of First American and sales-driven growth for Standalone Deluxe. Excluding First American, payments revenue increased 5.4% year-over-year. For the year, including First American, adjusted EBITDA increased 55.1%, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 20.7%, down 190 basis points. Longer term, we expect the payment segment to deliver a high single-digit revenue growth rate, and for 2022, we expect adjusted EBITDA margins to be in the low 20% range. Cloud Solutions had another solid quarter. Segment revenue increased 5.6%, year over year to $62.5 million in the quarter. As Barry mentioned earlier, if businesses exited during 2020 or excluded, cloud grew 11% in the quarter. Cloud's growth continues to be driven by our data-driven marketing solutions, which is seeing a solid rebound with the recovering economy and increased marketing spend. We continue to add new DDM clients, which will benefit us going forward. As we've said in previous quarters, our strategy in our data business is to diversify beyond our core banking and mortgage verticals. We have mentioned pilot campaigns within these new markets, and these initial opportunities have been successful. These pilots have outperformed our customers' existing campaigns, leading to new ongoing programs and use cases to approach other major players within these target markets. Our Q4 wins included new customers and programs in telco, and notably within one of the country's largest e-commerce marketers. In Q4, cloud's adjusted EBITDA margin declined 300 basis points versus prior year to 24.2% due to product mix, planned investments to drive future growth in the business, and the impact from business exits. For the year, cloud segment revenue increased 3.8% year-over-year to $262.3 million. Once again, if businesses exited during 2020 or excluded, cloud grew 13% for the year. For 2021, cloud's adjusted EBITDA margin improved 240 basis points versus prior year to 26.8%. For 2022, we continue to expect to see mid-single-digit revenue growth on a reported basis. We also expect cloud margins to remain healthy in the low to mid-20% range. Promotional Solutions fourth quarter 2021 revenue was $156.7 million, up 8.8% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA margin for the fourth quarter was 18.3%, up 430 basis points due to sales-driven operating leverage, merchandising optimization, and seasonal factors. For the year, Promotional Solutions revenue was $546.5 million, up 3.2% year-over-year. adjusted EBITDA margin for the year was 15.6%, up 300 basis points. We are anticipating 2022 top-line growth in the low single-digit range and slightly improved adjusted EBITDA margins due to value realization initiatives and merchandising optimization. CHECK's fourth quarter revenue increased 6.2% from last year to $184.1 million as new competitive wins pricing actions, and strength in our business checks outpaced the anticipated secular declines in the business. The significant Bradford win, enabled by our investment in HP digital assets, had a modest impact on the fourth quarter revenue, but will partially offset expected secular declines in 2022. I should also note that while we are very pleased with these results, we do not expect to see this level of outperformance in 2022. Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA dollars remained flat year over year, and adjusted EBITDA margin levels were 45.2%, down 290 basis points. This was largely driven by expenses related to the onboarding of new customers, inflation, and planned investments, including our new print-on-demand technology from HP, which should help protect our margins moving forward. Check's full-year 2021 revenue was $703 million, flat with last year, and adjusted EBITDA margin levels were 46.1% down 230 basis points. Based on high renewal rates in new businesses won in 2020 and 2021, we anticipate checks to decline in the low single digits for 2022 better than the anticipated industry secular declines. Turning now to our balance sheet and cash flow. we ended the year with a net debt level of $1.64 billion, up from $716.9 million last year due to the first American transaction. Importantly, in the fourth quarter, we retired over $94 million of debt and nearly $153 million since the first American transaction, further demonstrating our financial discipline and commitment to be lever. Our net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio was 4.0 times at the end of the year, down from 4.3 times in the third quarter. A long-term strategic target remains approximately 3.0 times. Free cash flow, defined as cash provided by operating activities, less capital expenditures, was $33.5 million in the fourth quarter, up $2.7 million from the fourth quarter of 2020. We do expect overall free cash flow to increase in 2022 as the investments in our major tech platform modernization was decreased meaningfully starting in the second half of the year. For the year, free cash flow was $101.7 million, down from $155 million in 2020, due to planned IT investments, as well as transaction fees associated with the first American transaction. Our board approved a regular quarterly dividend of 30 cents per share on all outstanding shares. The dividend will be payable on March 7th, 2022, to all shareholders of record on February 22nd, 2022. We did not repurchase common stock in the fourth quarter. As a reminder, our capital allocation priorities are to responsibly invest in growth, pay our dividend, reduce debt, and return value to our shareholders. We will evaluate future repurchases on an opportunistic basis, subject to the attainment of our deleveraging goals. Turning now to guidance. Today we are providing our expectations for 2022. As a reminder, the guidance includes a partial prior year of First America, assumes a continued economic recovery, and is subject to, among other things, macroeconomic unknowns associated with the COVID-19 pandemic, including the Omicron variant, as well as the anticipated continued supply chain constraints, labor supply issues, and inflation. We've added several more components to our guidance which should help you with your modeling. For full year 2022, we are expecting the following, keeping in mind that all figures are approximate. Revenue growth of 8% to 10%, including a full year of First American. As a reminder, the transaction closed on June 1, 2021. Adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 20% for the full year. We expect 2022 to return to pre-COVID seasonal patterns. The Q1 margin rate will be the lowest of the year, with margins improving as the year progresses. Interest expense of $85 million. An adjusted tax rate of 26%. Depreciation and amortization of $180 million, approximately half of which is acquisition and amortization. Average outstanding share count of 43.5 million shares and capital expenditures of $105 million. To summarize, I'm very pleased with the fourth quarter and full year 2021 results. We are executing on our one to lunch strategy. I believe the company is experiencing solid momentum that we expect to continue into 2022. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.
spk00: Thank you. And at this time, I'll just remind everyone, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. Our first question is from Lance Vitanza with Cowen. Your line is open.
spk05: Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the questions and congratulations on an important year, a great quarter. And if I can, I'd like to start maybe with just one big picture question. You know, Barry, you've done a lot to really transform this business over the past couple of years. My question is, where do you see the business going from here? Do you have Deluxe where you want it to be or will there be more improvements? I guess what I'm wondering is, Will, are you now moving into a reap what you sow type of a dynamic or do you have a lot more, are there more transformational, is there more transformational work that needs to be done in your opinion?
spk02: Well, first of all, Lance, great to talk to you again. We're very proud of how the business performed through 2021 and fundamentally agree with you that it was a very, very important year in our transformation. You'll recall that we have invested over the last couple of years to improve our core operating systems, our infrastructure, and more. And we will be completing all of that work in the first half of this year. So that is already largely behind us, but it will be really behind us, you know, as the middle of the year passes. We very much like the position the company is in today, which we have a payments business that at year end will be the largest business in the company's portfolio. And that puts us in a strong position for secular growth going forward. That payments business, you know, we have long held the belief that it will continue to grow and deliver high single-digit growth for the long term with healthy margins. We really like that profile substantially. We've made investments to, you know, ensure the success of our check business cash flow for the long term, which you saw us make announcements in the very recent past. And we really like where we're positioned today. And we think we're in a great spot to grow the company from here.
spk00: Our next question is from Charles Strausser with CJS Securities. Your line is open.
spk01: Hi. Good morning, everybody. Can you talk a little bit more about your assumptions behind the organic growth for 2022 for both the core and fast business and maybe a little bit more granularity on the segments? I know you gave some good detail there, but maybe some more about the assumptions behind those numbers.
spk06: Sure, Charlie. So, Scott, good morning. So, revenue of 8% to 10%, obviously, that includes a partial year for First American, including in the base for the first time. To break that apart, we would say on the legacy business, that would be 0% to 2% growth, similar to what we communicated communicated for this year. As you move into the back half of the year and as First American just becomes part of who Deluxe is, we'll begin to think about that as a portfolio and we'll not need to segregate that independently. Within the segments, we've talked about each individual segment and what our long-term expectations are for the overall payments business. We're thinking 2022 and beyond as being a long-term high single-digit grower with the inclusion of First American, cloud in the mid-single digits. promo in the low single digits and check, you know, we talk about the secular declines in that industry that we continue to resume in 2022, had an incredible two, four in the check business where we actually grew revenue period over period. We don't, well, we're thrilled with that performance. We don't expect that to continue next year. And we're going to look at 2022 to deliver a low single digit decline in checks.
spk01: All right. Great, thank you. And then looking at, you know, a little bit of growth, obviously, on the top line, but, you know, even our margins are relatively flat at 21. Can you talk more about kind of the fact of impacting the margins and some of the things you can do to offset those? Thanks.
spk06: Sure. So, you know, 20% even down margin for 2022, consistent with what we would say is this year. And certainly there are some areas of pressure with inflation and supply chain dynamics that we're still working our way through. But we do feel like we've got a good, solid plan on how to deflect those pressures in the business. rate performance in line with what we saw this year. One nuance is that we are expecting Q1 to be the lowest quarter of the year. There's some seasonal patterns that have historically existed in the business that we expect to resume. You didn't see those in 2021 due to some of the one-timers associated with COVID. But we do expect Q1 to be the lowest performer of the year, increasingly steadily throughout the year and deliver 20% overall across the year. Great.
spk01: And then lastly, if you can expand a little further on your thoughts for free cash flow. I know you said you're expecting it to grow in 2022, but maybe a little bit more granularity there. Thanks.
spk06: Certainly. So Barry talked a lot about the transformation that was initiated several years ago regarding the internal infrastructure of the organization. Internally, we call these initiatives Six Flags. There were six specific infrastructure components that were replaced completely. Five of those projects are now complete. The final of those, which is also the biggest and most impactful, is the replacement of the ERP system to integrate all these previously unintegrated businesses that will conclude in the first half of 2022. And that has been a significant consumer of cash in the organization. And so with the completion of that activity, there is a meaningful amount of incremental free cashflow as compared to 2021 that we'll expect to see next year.
spk00: Excellent. Thank you very much. Our next question is from Lance Patanza with Colin. Your line is open.
spk05: Hey, guys. Thanks. I wanted to start on First American and the payments business, actually. It sounds like it was, if I heard you right, it was accretive to EBITDA margin, slightly accretive to EBITDA margin in the quarter. Good. Yet the guidance, I think you said, for 2022 is going to be for another year of low 20% EBITDA margin. And so it seems like you're not really, if I heard you right, it sounds like you're not really expecting to capture any operating leverage there. And I'm just wondering if that's a temporary phenomenon. I know obviously we've got a lot of things going on in the world right now. Or should we be thinking that that's just the nature of the business and that sort of that margin profile should continue out for the next several years?
spk06: So you're correct in that we have not modeled a significant amount of operating leverage in First American for 2022. There are a number of investments that need to be made in the business, and we're excited about continuing to grow that and thrilled with the performance that that team has delivered over the course of 2021. We do, however, expect that in the long term, even in the intermediate term, there should be operating leverage. As we've talked a lot about the strategy of that acquisition, First American is a scaled business with a solid platform upon which additional volume should come through at higher flow-through rates. So we do expect operating leverage in the future, but we need to make some investments to continue to grow the baseline business as you further integrate that in with the balance of Deluxe.
spk05: So not to quibble with the semantics, but it sounds like the flat margin in 22 is really somewhat misleading because there's things going on, puts and takes beneath the surface. There is some higher flow through, but it's being offset by some temporary investments that you feel like you need to make. Is that a fair way to characterize it? I think that's fair. Okay. Cloud, it looks like the – The year-on-year growth, it looks like it decelerated, and I'm wondering if there was anything in particular happening there, and it still is quite nice, but I also noticed that it was down quarter-on-quarter, so I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the seasonality that you would typically expect to see in the business. Thanks.
spk06: There is seasonality in the business, but I think primarily the decelerating growth is a function of the comp year and the recovery from COVID that we saw in the early part of the year. And now we're starting to trend up against stronger comp quarters in the business. And as we continue to articulate, you know, we view this as a mid-single-digit grower going forward as we revert it to that level in Q4. But this business is performing in line with our expectations. We're really happy with the traction we've made with new customers and the prospective opportunity to enter into new industry verticals. So we're very happy with the performance we've seen there. I think it is important to note that the growth rate that you're seeing there, the mid-single-digit growth rate, is also impacted by the exit. So if you exclude the exit, there would have been 11% growth in the quarter.
spk05: Right. Okay, great. And so on the promo side, there you did quite nicely, much better than we were expecting. And I'm wondering, actually, if maybe the reverse was happening there. Was there some reason that that was maybe an easier comp, maybe anything that got pushed out of 4Q20, or was there anything pulled forward into 4Q21? Clearly, I'm guessing we shouldn't be expecting 9% here on-year growth going forward.
spk06: so we you know we saw some strong growth uh in that business certainly we do not expect that to continue at those levels going forward um we did see some improved performance in some subsections within promo specifically promo and apparel which is a business that was hit hard by covid but we saw some nice strength in that and that um piece of the business and and q4 uh also you know part of that business is there's sort of a forms business that often tracks with checks, and we saw some strong performance there as well. So we still think the business is healthy, going to perform well in 2020 to 2022, but we're modeling that out as more of a low single-digit grower next year.
spk05: Okay, and my last question, if I can squeeze one more in, is really on the balance sheet, and you did a nice job there, leverage, net debt, both a little bit lower than we had modeled. I'm a little frustrated that now apparently you don't feel is the time to be repurchasing the stock. I mean, the stock is clearly not reflecting the value proposition here. And it sounds like you pretty much made up your mind that until you get that leverage down to your target, you know, share repurchases or. all but off the table maybe i'm making that too uh maybe it's stronger than it than you guys are uh are making it but could you comment on that a little bit and is there any chance that maybe you know the company does move in first half of this year and take advantage of the prices that we're seeing
spk06: This is something we review with our board every single quarter. We're always evaluating our capital allocation priorities, and I would never say never, but at the moment we're steadfast in our commitment to de-lever according to the commitments we've made at the time of the first American acquisition. But we revisit that on a constant basis. We're evaluating our capital plans. We're evaluating our our debt leveraging plans as well as our share buyer plans constantly. So never say never, but for the moment we're focused on reducing our leverage. Understood.
spk05: Thanks for the call, guys. Appreciate it.
spk00: Our next question is from Chris McGinnis with Sudoti & Co. Your line is open.
spk03: Yeah, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions in the next quarter. I guess if we could start just on with First American, can you just talk about the growth rate that you're seeing there and then, you know, how long you can keep that growth rate going now that it's under your command?
spk02: Hey, Chris, good to hear you. We're obviously very proud and pleased with First American performance. And like we said earlier, we think it's just really clear that clear evidence that our one deluxe sales model works and the deluxe halo is real. You know, we think that that's going to be a great business over the long term. You know, we don't know that it's going to stay at this elevated rate of growth indefinitely. I tell you, we feel very good now about, you know, what we said when we acquired the asset, that we believe we could have it as a, you know, solid middle asset. you know digit grower and perhaps more and we're seeing perhaps more right now in uh you know what we saw in the full year and in fourth quarter results um and what i would just tell you is we feel very confident very confident that our original business case and plan is solid and it's going to deliver great thanks for that barry and then i guess just the second part of that around uh fast
spk03: I know you mentioned this last quarter, Barry, is that you're getting inbound calls. Is that customer outreach still continuing to happen, coming to you now that you have that asset in place?
spk02: You know, absolutely. And I think, Chris, maybe the best way to think about sort of this notion of the Deluxe Halo and the strength of our relationship and the strength of the brand we have in the marketplace, particularly with financial institutions, is that we closed three times, three times the number of financial institutions in the back half that would be a normal close rate for First America. It is like the best way I can explain to you that it's real and that the fact that the relationships we have can be leveraged for growth, it's clear. It's black and white. you know, three times the number of financial institutions signed with First American in the back half than they would in a typical back half. I just – I don't have a better way to dimensionalize except to tell you that because that's – I think it's really powerful and really clear.
spk03: No, I appreciate that. And I guess just, you know, thinking about that with the Bradford Exchange announcement earlier this week, Can you just talk about, I guess, you know, one, the opportunity there just on the check side, and then also, you know, is there room for that one Deluxe strategy to play out, you know, to include more, you know, products that Deluxe offers?
spk02: There's a bunch of questions there, so let me take them one at a time. Let me talk about the Bradford HP and what we're doing in our check business. We had long said that we were going to focus on maintaining that profitability for the far foreseeable future. And by making investments in the digital technology, like you saw us announce with HP, helps us do that. It greatly simplifies the production process, eliminates inventory in our warehouses, and gives us many more products to sell. Part of having more products to sell means there are other customers that we can go sell to. And Bradford Exchange is a great example. Bradford Exchange, their core business is that they put artwork on a variety of different products to create a custom product for a consumer. And they have a significant check business today that was being managed and delivered by our competitor. And we won that away on a variety of points, especially the fact that we now have this capability and technology that allows us to have nearly infinite variety of designs. And that's important not only to Bradford Exchange, because that's a key differentiator for them in the market, but it's already allowed us to add additional check designs to our mix, which allows us to have new revenue sources. And it does position us really well to go after a different segment of the market that we haven't been able to go after in the past. So we think there's opportunity for us to win additional business there and continue the ability for us to grow share of the market in checks. So the second question really was around One Deluxe and the ability to cross-sell beyond just the success we highlighted on First American. But throughout this quarter and throughout the year, we continue to improve our cross-sell rate in our telesale centers, as an example. Our pipeline of products that we have in queue to be sold to our existing customers continues has continued to expand. And I think it was our third consecutive year of record cross-sell performance. So we don't see any reason that that's going to slow down. The one deluxe model that we started building clearly works. And it's a machine that is working really well for us.
spk03: Great. I appreciate that color, Barry. Just to move on to checks and the growth in the quarter, and I understand the outlook for 22, but can you just dive a little bit more into the growth in the quarter itself, maybe how much is from existing and then from new client wins?
spk06: Yeah. We still think about the industry and the base businesses being in that mid-single-digit secular decline, so you get a sense for how much of the volume that we delivered was based on new wins. The team has just done a terrific job in winning a very, very high percentage of renewals of our existing customers. and then, you know, faring quite well when new business is up for grabs. So the team just continues to do a terrific job there. And so, you know, we don't have as many renewals coming up in the near term, so I think we've got a pretty solid baseline of revenue training into 2022. But, again, the team continues to take share and do a good job with that business.
spk03: Also on MPX, it sounds like it's starting to really gain some traction. Can you just talk about the opportunity that you see and maybe the revenue growth rate? I know it's still small, but it sounds like it's moving in a pretty positive direction.
spk02: So we're really proud of what's happening with MPX and VPX. And Year on year, it's growing in the 50-plus percent range, so very material revenue growth rate. And we think there's a ton of upside potential. And if you just look at it and you say that if you convert just a small percentage of B2B checks, you know, it's not – it's incredibly – it's right in front of us to go make that, you know, $100 million a year business. Not tomorrow morning, but over, you know, a couple of year horizon. And at that growth rate, you know, we believe we can get there in a few years. And so it's a real business. It's a real market opportunity. And as we noted, you know, we've signed the fourth major payer in Q4, which is a big deal because it hasn't gone live yet, but because they're signed, there will be revenue and profit that come to us beginning in 22 and then accelerating as we go forward.
spk00: And it appears that we have no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back to Mr. Marbito for any closing remarks.
spk04: Thanks, Chris. Before we conclude, I'd like to mention that management will be participating in the Sedoti Spring Small Cap Conference on March 23rd. Thank you again for joining us today. Please stay healthy and safe, and we look forward to speaking with you in May as we share our first quarter 2022 results.
spk00: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.
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