8/1/2025

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Operator
Conference Operator

Welcome to Douglas Elliman's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. This call is being recorded and simultaneously webcast. An archived version of the webcast will be available on the investor relations section of the company's website located at investors.elliman.com for one year. I would now like to turn the conference over to Douglas Elliman Vice President of Finance, Heather Capriola.

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Heather Capriola
Vice President of Finance

Thank you and good morning. On the call with me today is Michael Leibowitz, President and CEO of Douglas Elliman, Inc. and Brian Kirkland, CFO of Douglas Elliman, Inc. During this call, the terms adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net loss will be used, as well as last 12 months or LTM metrics. These terms are non-GAAP financial measures and should be considered in addition to, but not as a substitute for, other measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations to adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net loss are contained in the company's earnings release, which has been posted to the investor relations section of the company's website. Before the call begins, I would like to read a safe harbor statement. The statements made during this conference call that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements that are subject to risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those set forth in or implied by forward-looking statements. These risks are described in more detail in the company's securities and exchange commission filings. Now, I would like to turn the call over to the Chief Executive Officer of Douglas Elliman, Michael S. Leibowitz.

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Michael S. Leibowitz
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Heather. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I am pleased to share that Douglas Elliman continues to make meaningful progress as we execute our strategy to drive growth, improve profitability and position the company for long-term success. On today's call, we will discuss the current operating environment and Douglas Elliman's financial results for the three and six months ended June 30th, 2025. All numbers presented this morning will be as of June 30th, 2025. unless otherwise stated. We will then provide closing comments and open the call for questions. Before we turn to our second quarter 2025 results, I would like to begin by providing industry updates and summarizing some of our recent accomplishments. In the first half of 2025, our revenues increased by 8% year over year to $524.8 million, marking our strongest first half revenue performance since 2022. We also delivered significant improvement towards restoring our profitability with notable reductions in operating losses when compared to the first half of 2024. Our agents and employees remain at the center of everything we do. Their hard work and commitment to excellence drive our success. We are proud to support them with the tools and technology they need to excel in today's market. After a challenging period in the middle of the second quarter, which Bryant will discuss later, we remain optimistic about the third quarter and second half of 2025, thanks to encouraging recent trends, including continued demand for luxury homes, rising average transaction values, and a strong development marketing pipeline. These results reflect the strength of our iconic brand, the dedication of our agents, and the resilience of the luxury markets we serve. Now, let us look to the future. We are focused on executing our strategic growth initiatives, including the recent launches of Element Capital and Element International. In July 2025, we were pleased to announce the creation of Element Capital, an innovative mortgage platform developed with associated mortgage bankers, which we expect to provide a licensing revenue stream and represents a transformative advancement in our comprehensive service offering. The platform was initially launched in Florida, and we hope to expand it to all states where Douglas Elliman operates. Elliman Capital will provide our clients with access to an extensive and creative range of financing products. This new platform fosters convenience and oversight throughout the entire real estate transaction process, enabling our agents to provide seamless support from initial property search through closing. In June, 2025, we were also incredibly proud to launch Element International, which extends our renowned, bespoke service to key global markets. This initiative will enable us to directly serve the growing international real estate needs of our clients without any intermediaries. Initial focus will be on high-end luxury demand in Latin America, the Middle East, Europe, Asia Pacific, and other emerging wealth centers. Our international expansion will begin with immediate activation of certain core services for existing clients and will showcase our preeminent development marketing division. Given the scarcity of listing inventory of ultra-luxury homes in many of our markets, our development marketing division continues to be a cornerstone of our long-term growth strategy. Bryant will discuss the successes of this division later in the call. Moving forward, we continue to evaluate complementary transactions and ancillary businesses, such as title, escrow, insurance brokerage, and property management. Now, I would like to discuss our industry and will briefly address the practice of private listings. At Douglas Elliman, we have a long-standing commitment to offering clients greater choice and flexibility, while continuing to promote equal access to listings and uphold a transparent, fair housing market. The decision to list property privately must originate from the seller. Our brokerage does not push, incentivize, or default to private listings. With a larger percentage of luxury homes in our inventory, private listings may be the right fit because there are valid, seller-driven reasons to withhold a property from public view, including personal privacy, timing, or a desire to test the market. Our approach differs from brokerage-led exclusivity models in that we offer private listings as one option among many, empowering clients to make informed decisions based on their unique needs rather than applying a one-size-fits-all model. Additionally, we believe co-broking remains the most effective path for most sellers, as broad exposure and the most reliable way to maximize value, drive competition, and fulfill our fiduciary obligation to act in our clients' best interest. Any Douglas Elliman private listing platform will require sellers to review and sign acknowledging the potential risk of reduced exposure. The platform will also include strong guardrails to ensure compliance with other listing platforms, such as broker oversight, audit logs, and technical controls. We believe this transparent, Client-first approach sets us apart from our competitors and builds long-term trust and value. In summary, our growth initiatives, coupled with a disciplined approach to capital allocation, cost management, and investment are transforming Douglas Elliman into a more diversified, resilient, and growth-oriented real estate services company to deliver sustainable, long-term value for stockholders. With the launch of Element International, we're very excited to extend our renowned service beyond the US and build a direct presence in key international luxury markets, further advancing our evolution into a truly global brand. With that, I will turn it over to Bryant, who will provide more details on our financial performance and the trend shaping the residential real estate market.

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Brian Kirkland
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Michael. We are confident that the positive momentum in our financial performance beginning in 2024 and continuing through the first half of 2025 has positioned Douglas Elliman for long-term success. Results from the first half of 2025 indicate that our core operations are starting to reflect the impact of the strategic actions we have taken over the past two years. In particular, The first half benefited from favorable sales mix highlighted by strong contributions from development marketing as well as New York City and its suburbs, which are our most profitable markets. Specifically, revenues from existing home sales in our New York and Northeast markets increased by $16.8 million or 7.9% from the 2024 first half, and Development Marketing's first half revenue increased by $17.7 million from the 2024 first half. In the second quarter of 2025, compared to the second quarter of 2024, we experienced a challenging period in May to early June, when our results were negatively impacted by exogenous economic pressures and industry specific headwinds. During this period, heightened volatility in international financial markets driven by geopolitical uncertainties, including global economic policies, created a sense of caution among buyers and sellers. At the same time, the continuation of elevated mortgage rates further dampened market activity as higher borrowing costs continued to cause many clients to delay selling or purchasing decisions. In retrospect, we also saw the highest first quarter cash receipts since 2022, and we believe that an increase in written contracts after the 2024 U.S. elections accelerated some sales, especially in New York City, from the second quarter into the first quarter. It is important to note that we recognize revenue from home sale transactions at the time of closing, which typically occurs 30 to 90 days after contract signing, depending on each market's custom. As a result, contracts written in March and April directly affected our reported results for the quarter. Before reviewing the financial performance, we will provide some updates on our trends. First, Douglas Elliman sets the standard in the luxury market and pricing for luxury home sales remains strong. Our industry best price per transaction for the year-to-date period rose to $1.92 million per home sale compared to $1.72 million per home sale in the comparable 2024 period. For the last 12 months, Our average price per transaction has been $1.77 million per home sold, compared to $1.64 million in the 2024 period. Our agents sold 340 homes for more than $5 million, or 6% of total transactions in the second quarter of 2025, and 683 homes for more than $5 million in the first half of 2025. Year-to-date sales represent a 38% increase when compared to the six months into June 30th, 2024. Equally impressive are 100 home sales of more than $10 million in the second quarter and 204 home sales of more than $10 million in the first half of 2025. This was a 32% increase from the first half of 2024. These results demonstrate Douglas Elliman continues to be the definitive name in luxury real estate. And as Michael discussed, our development marketing division remains the preeminent industry player. With a pipeline of actively marketed projects of approximately $28.1 billion of gross transaction value, Approximately $18.8 billion of gross transaction value is in Florida alone. Within this active pipeline, we have another $5.9 billion of gross transaction value coming to market through September, 2026. We believe this foundation of business bodes well for the future as we will recognize commission income from these projects when they close, which is generally between the second half of 2025 and 2031. In addition to a strong fourth quarter of 2024 in development marketing, we are continuing to see the early momentum of this pipeline in the first half of 2025 when development marketing's revenue increased to $35.4 million from $17.7 million in the first half of 2024. Transitioning to our expense structure. We continue to manage investments across our markets with a strict focus on return on investment metrics. In the three and six months into June 30th, 2025, our operating expenses excluding commissions, depreciation, and amortization, unusual litigation expense settlement and related expense, restructuring expenses, and non-cash stock compensation expenses increased by $1 million and declined by $1.9 million respectively from the 2024 periods. Related to the change in the second quarter, although targeted expense areas such as offline advertising continue to decline, Our overall expenses increased due to higher compensation and recurring professional fees, partly due to inflationary pressures. The rising compensation expense was attributable to our continued investment in the development marketing business, as well as increased bonus accruals associated with the increased revenues from business performance in 2025. turning to Douglas Elliman's financial results for the three months into June 30th, 2025. Douglas Elliman maintains ample liquidity with cash and cash equivalents at June 30th, 2025 of approximately $136 million. The strength of our balance sheet provides a competitive advantage for Douglas Elliman as we implement expansion plans to scale our operations and strengthen our services platform. Moving to the operating performance of the business in the second quarter. Douglas Elliman reported $271.4 million in revenues compared to $285.8 million in the 2024 second quarter. The decline in revenues was primarily the result of reduced closing transactions in May 2025 as well as early June. Net loss for the second quarter was $22.7 million, or 27 cents per diluted share, compared to $1.7 million, or 2 cents per diluted share, in the second quarter of 2024. Net loss in the 2025 period included a non-cash charge of $17 million associated with the increase in fair value of derivatives embedded within our convertible debt, And this was primarily driven by an increase in our stock price from $1.72 per share at March 31st, 2025 to $2.32 per share at June 30th, 2025. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was a loss of $849,000 compared to positive $2.9 million in the 2024 second quarter. Adjusted net loss for the second quarter was $4.7 million, or $0.06 per share, compared to $532,000, or $0.01 per share, in the 2024 second quarter. Moving to the operating performance of the business for the six months into June 30, 2025, Douglas Elliman reported, $524.8 million in revenues, up from $486 million in the 2024 period. Net loss for the six months into June 30, 2025 was $28.7 million, or $0.34 per diluted share, compared to $43.1 million, or $0.52 per diluted share, in 2024 period. Net loss in the 2025 period included a non-cash charge of $17.7 million associated with the increase in fair value of derivatives embedded within our convertible debt, and this was primarily driven by an increase in our stock price from $1.67 per share at December 31, 2024 to $2.32 per share at June 30, 2025. Net loss in the 2024 period included a $17.75 million litigation settlement charge. Adjusted EBITDA for the six months ended June 30th, 2025 was $259,000 compared to a loss of $14.7 million in the 2024 period. Adjusted net loss for the six months ended June 30th, 2025 was $7.1 million or 8 cents per share compared to $23.6 million or 28 cents per share in the 2024 period. Thank you for your attention. And now back to you, Michael.

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Michael S. Leibowitz
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Brian. Our results in the first half of 2025 are proof that our turnaround is working and we are well positioned for success. in the second half of the year and beyond. I remain deeply confident in the strength and brand power of the Douglas Element franchise and am energized by the incredible opportunities that lie ahead for us. With that, we will be happy to answer questions. Operator?

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Operator
Conference Operator

At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star 2. Once again, that is star one to ask a question. We will pause for a moment to allow questions to queue.

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Operator
Conference Operator

And as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question today, you may do so by pressing star one. And those are all the questions that we have for today.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you for joining us on Douglas Elliman's quarterly earnings conference call. We hope you have a good day and this will conclude our call.

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Michael S. Leibowitz
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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