10/23/2025

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

Please stand by. Your program is about to begin. If you require assistance throughout the event today, please press star zero. Good morning and welcome to Dover's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Speaking today are Richard J. Tobin, President and Chief Executive Officer, Chris Winker, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Jack Dickens, Vice President of Investor Relations. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, press star and then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press the pound key. As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, This conference call is being recorded, and your participation implies consent to our recording of this call. If you do not agree with these terms, please disconnect at this time. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Jack Dickens. Please go ahead, sir.

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Jack Dickens
Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Chloe. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our call. An audio version of this call will be available on our website through November 13th, and a replay link of the webcast will be archived for 90 days. Our comments today will include forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Actual results and events could differ from those statements due to a number of risks and uncertainties which are discussed in our SEC filings We assume no obligation to update our forward-looking statements. With that, I will turn the call over to Rich. Thanks, Jack.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning, everybody. Let's get started on slide three. Overall, we are pleased with Dover's third quarter results. Revenue is up 5% in the quarter, driven by broad-based shipment growth and short-cycle components, continued strength across our secular growth end markets, and very encouraging results from recently closed acquisitions. Order trends continued to pause momentum in the quarter, up 8% all in year over year, or 4% organically, providing good visibility for the remainder of the year and into 2026. Margin performance in the quarter was excellent, with a record consolidated EBITDA margin of 26.1%, up 170 basis points over the comparable period as a result of positive mixed impact from our growth platforms solid execution, and our rigorous cost containment and productivity actions, all five segments posted margin improvements during the quarter. All-in adjusted EPS was up 15% in the quarter and is up 17% year-to-date. Capital deployment remains a key driver of our double-digit earnings growth. This year, we increased our investments in high ROI capital projects, focused on productivity and capacity expansions, as well as targeted footprint optimization. Our balance sheet strength is an advantage that provides flexibility and attractive optionality as we pursue value-creating bolt-on acquisitions and opportunistic capital return strategies. We have a constructive outlook for the remainder of 2025 and into 26, Despite some macroeconomic uncertainty, underlying end market demand is healthy across much of the portfolio and is supported by our sustained order growth. As a result, we are increasing our full year adjusted EPS guidance from $9.35 to $9.55 to $9.50 to $9.60. Let's go to slide five. Engineered products revenue was down in the quarter on lower volumes and vehicle services, partially offset by solid performance in aerospace and defense components. Despite the organic volume decline, absolute segment profit improved in the quarter on well-executed structural cost management, product mix, and productivity initiatives. Clean energy and fueling was up 5% organically in the quarter, led by strong shipments and clean energy components, fluid transport, and North American retailing. fueling software and equipment. Our recent acquisition of SiteIQ, a provider remote site monitoring of fueling sites, is off to a good start. Margin performance, as expected, was solid in the quarter, up 200 basis points on volume leverage and a higher mix of below-ground fueling equipment and restructuring benefit carry forward. Imaging and ID was up 3% organically in the quarter and growth in our core marketing and coding business and in serialization software. Margin performance remains very good in this segment at 29% adjusted EBITDA margin as management actions on cost to serve and structural cost controls continue to drive incremental margins higher. Pumps and process solutions is up 6% organically with growth in single-use biopharma components, thermal connectors for liquid cooling of data centers, and precision components and digital controls for natural grass and power generation infrastructure. Sikora, which we acquired, at the end of the second quarter is significantly outperforming our underwriting case. Segment revenue mix, volume leverage drove margin improvement on solid production performance and volume in secular growth exposed end markets. Revenue was down in the quarter in climate sustainability technologies and comparative declines in food retail cases and engineering services, which were collectively down 30% year to date. Industry-wide, shipments of door cases are at a 20-year low, in part because of tariff uncertainty has caused customers to delay maintenance and replacement upgrade spending. These projects cannot be delayed indefinitely, and encouragingly, we saw material acceleration in booking rates in the quarter, which signals volume improvement moving forward. Meanwhile, the segment had record quarterly volumes in CO2 systems, as well as double-digit growth in heat exchangers and accelerating demand, for liquid cooling of data centers and improving sentiment in European heat pumps. Despite the lower top line, the segment posted 120 points of margin improvement on productivity actions and a higher mix of US CO2 systems and brazed plate heat exchangers. I'll pass it to Chris.

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Chris Winker
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Rich. Good morning, everyone. Let's go to our cash flow statement on slide six. Year-to-date free cash flow was $631 million, or 11% of revenue, Up $96 million over the prior year has increased year-over-year operating cash conversion more than offset an expected increase in capital spending. Free cash flow generation accelerated in the third quarter in line with our expectations and with historical trends, and we expect a further step up in the fourth quarter, which is historically our highest cash-generating quarter. Our guidance for 2025 free cash flow remains on track at 14% to 16% on strong conversion of operating cash flow. With that, let me turn it back to Rich.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Okay, I'm on slide seven. Let's put right a little more detail on the bookings in the third quarter. Q3 consolidated bookings were up 8% in total and 4% organically from the prior year. I call out the 25% bookings growth in climate and sustainability technologies, a welcome sign as we expect the segment to return to growth in the fourth quarter on broad-based volume demands. In slide 8, we highlight several end markets that are key drivers of our revenue growth in 2025 and beyond. We are benefiting from major investments in power generation, electricity infrastructure, and artificial intelligence across multiple businesses. We are directly exposed to data center build-out by hyperscalers and the secular shift from air cooling to liquid cooling of new chip technologies. Between our thermal CPC connectors, which primarily connect to the backend of the server rack manifolds and directly to the chip, as well as our large and XL heat exchangers from SWEP that are key components in cooling distribution units and chillers, we expect to generate over $100 million of revenue in this year alone. A recently closed Sikora acquisition expands our exposure to electricity infrastructure through measurement and inspection control solutions for high voltage polymer coated wires and cables. a direct beneficiary of growing electrification trends and demand for customers for product quality assurance and improvement. All this electricity has to come from somewhere, and natural gas remains the most viable option for scalable, reliable energy for the foreseeable future. Our precision components and OPW clean energy businesses participate across several points of the natural gas infrastructure value chain. including gas and steam turbine components, midstream gas pipeline engines and compressor infrastructure, and valves and vacuum jacketed piping used in liquefaction and gasification of LNG. End market data and customer discussions indicate a very bright future for these businesses. Our single-use biopharma components platform has returned to its long-term double-digit growth trajectory on volume demand and new product launches, continued advantage Advances in biological drugs and therapies coupled with an industry shift towards single-use manufacturing processes are fueling sustained high-quality growth for our products. In CO2 refrigeration, we maintain a clear market leadership position in the U.S., supported by a fully platform product portfolio and a retrofitted plant in Conyers, Georgia, that provides strong competitive modes in product performance, lead times, and scalability. Economic and regulatory tailwinds are driving the transition to CO2 systems as large national retail chains accelerate their adoption with a line of sight of continued double-digit growth into 2026. A significant majority of the acquisition capital deployed in the past five years has been directed towards these high-end growth markets, which remain top priorities for continued investment. Collectively, these markets now represent roughly 20% of our portfolio and are contributing meaningfully to our margin expansion. Moving to slide nine, our investments in center-led functions and ongoing focus on productivity improvement are key drivers of our margin expansion. We have made significant progress building out our shared back office services, digital capabilities, and internal engineering services through the India Innovation Center. These center-led functions enable our operating companies to concentrate on what matters most, serving customers, driving new product development, and responding to market-specific needs while leveraging Dover's global scale and balance sheet. This structure remains a core competitive differentiator of our operating companies, and we extract cost synergies from our existing and acquired portfolio companies. Our Dover Business Services, Dover Digital, and Innovation Center are now fully developed and integrated across the organization. With these operations fully built out, we expect meaningful scale and scope benefits as we continue to grow organically and through acquisitions, further reducing average transaction costs and driving attractive margin accretion. We believe that our shared back office services will be the largest non-product beneficiary of artificial intelligence implementations. An important part of our business model is to drive productivity through targeted efficiency and fixed cost reduction programs. On the right are some of the key ongoing projects that we had highlighted in previous quarters, including our recently announced transition of the Anthony Glass door manufacturing from Sylmar, California, into our existing Hill Phoenix refrigerated case facility in Richard, Virginia.

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Unidentified Speaker

A move expected to deliver significant

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

These initiatives are projected to contribute $40 million in incremental carryover benefit in 2026, with additional benefits extending into 2027. Let's finish up on the outlook slide number 10. We expect engineered products to improve sequentially in the fourth quarter on double-digit growth in aerospace and defense components and improving market trends and competitive dynamics within vehicle services. Our outlook in clean energy and fueling remains solid across most of the businesses. North American retail fueling is starting another capital deployment cycle, and the outlook in clean energy components is positive as well. Vehicle wash continues to experience some headwinds, although we would expect that to recover in 2020. Managing NID should continue its long-term steady growth trajectory given its significant recurring revenue base and solid underlying demand with an additional upside from serialization software. We forecast this segment to continue its double-digit or its single-digit organic trajectory. The outlook for pumps and process solutions is strong and broad-based with attractive top-line forecasts across single-use biopharma components. thermal connectors for liquid cooling of data centers, and precision components for natural gas infrastructure. Bookings and backlog trends in our long-cycle polymer processing signal improving conditions, and the business should return to growth in the fourth quarter for the first time in over two years. And finally, climate and sustainability technologies should grow in the high single digits organically in the fourth quarter on continued strength in CO2 refrigeration systems and heat exchangers as well as growth in refrigerated door cases from improved booking rates. The full year guidance is on the left. We accept acceleration and we expect acceleration, our top line in the fourth quarter, driven by our secular growth businesses and sequential recovery in certain capital goods and markets. We are well positioned as we begin to transition into 2026 and our advantage balance sheet provides attractive optionality to selectively play a fence to continue driving shareholder returns. Pass it back to you, Jack.

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Jack Dickens
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, I guess, Chloe, before you get to the script on questions, if I could just interject quickly. We've had a lot of pickup in our analyst coverage over the last 12 months, so if we could please limit the Q&A to just one question, we would greatly appreciate that. I'll turn it over to you, Chloe.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, simply press star, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star 2. Again, we ask that participants limit themselves to one question. We'll take our first question from Andy Kapowitz with Citigroup. Your line is open.

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Andy Kapowitz
Analyst, Citigroup

Hey, good morning, everyone. Hi, Andy. Rich, you mentioned an improving sequential outlook in vehicle services, improved booking rates in refrigerated door cases. But did you see improving bookings accounts across Q3 for the company? And would you expect books to bill over one time in Q4? And then did these improvements in relatively easy comps set you up for a better organic growth year in 26th? at least closer to that algorithm that you've given out of 4% to 6% over time? That's about five questions, Andy, but I know where you're headed.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Look, the year-over-year reduction in refrigeration on the basic retail refrigeration equipment has cost us about 1.5% to 2% of organic growth on a full-year basis. So the good news is that we've been able to cover that, largely because of our growth platforms and the margin improvement over year over year. And the good news also is, which I called out in the press release, is that because booking rates have accelerated particularly in there, and we will do quite well on the comparative top line in that business, that You know, we're looking at close to $140, $150 million revenue headwind that we absorbed this year. So do we get it all back next year? We'll see, but I think we're going to get a significant portion of it back if the Q4 trajectory holds as we go through the end of the year.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

And we'll take our next question from Steve Tusa with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.

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Steve Tusa
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

It sounded like Andy was mowing the lawn there or something. It reminds me of back to school, one question in 32 parts. But just the implied organic in the fourth quarter, I mean, you have a pretty wide range there. But the low end of that range seems to be, you know, in and around the mid-single digits. for the fourth quarter, and then totally unrelated follow-up to that. Are you guys thinking about buying back stock? I mean, you guys have a ton of cash, and you sold probably a subpar asset for a multiple that's now above where your stock is trading. So any thoughts around a potential buyback as well?

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think if you go back and look in the transcript, you'll see the corporate speak for we think our shares are cheap and we're likely to intervene, number one. And number two, yeah, I think that on an organic basis, Q4 should be our highest quarter in the year. Okay, thanks. Thanks.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

We'll move next to Jeff Sprague with Vertical Research. Your line is open.

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Jeff Sprague
Analyst, Vertical Research

Hey, thanks. Good morning. Hey, Rich, just back to the sort of the restructuring. Is this the totality of sort of what you foreshadowed for us on the Q2 call, or are there sort of other actions in place that could then even be added to this, or is this pretty much in flight what we should expect for 2026?

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Unidentified Speaker

We had a big debate in here whether to not Hello? Hello? Still here?

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Jeff Sprague
Analyst, Vertical Research

Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. I don't know if that was my fault.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Oh, all right. I'll answer it again. Look, we had signaled that we were going to give an update in Q3, so that's where we are in Q3 right now. I expect that number to increase as we close the year. It's just going to be a question of the timing, whether it's 26 or 27, but that number should go up.

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Jeff Sprague
Analyst, Vertical Research

Great. Thank you, Rich.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

And we'll take our next question from Nigel Coey with Wolf Research. Your line is open.

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Nigel Coey
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Thanks. I promise I'll keep this just to one question. I promise, I promise, I'll try it.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Nigel, we get complaints for cutting people off despite the fact we have the longest conference call.

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Nigel Coey
Analyst, Wolfe Research

But anyway, go ahead. No, I know, I know, I know. You've got a lot of, you're a popular company. Any initial thoughts on 26? And I'm not asking for a range here, but it just seems that a lot of the you know, the businesses that are dragging today could well be, you know, meaningful tailwinds in 26. And, you know, if these secular growth businesses, you know, continue, then, you know, 26 organic could be quite an acceleration. So just any thoughts as you see things right now for 26?

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, we like the setup. In a strange way, we took the headwinds that we had not forecasted in refrigeration based on our discussions with customers, but because of rollover restructuring and a lot of productivity and some really healthy mix where we've been able to absorb it this year, so the good news is that the setup comparatively looks good there. I'm not aware of any business within the portfolio that's forecasting down revenue for next year. Now, clearly, somebody will get it right and somebody will get it wrong, but it's not like the situation that we had with MOG in the past where it was cyclical and we knew it was going to come down. The rest of it, I think that we can look at the trajectory in Q4. If you put on just regular seasonality next year, I think the setup looks really good.

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Unidentified Speaker

Okay, thanks, Rich.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

Thanks. And we will move next to Amit Mehrotra. Your line is open.

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Amit Mehrotra
Analyst

Congrats, operator. That's a pretty good attempt on my last name. Appreciate it. Rich, you know, if we go back six months, it feels like kind of a millennia ago, but you were kind of prescient by lopping $100 million in the back half, kind of right off the top. And it looks like that's kind of been absorbed. As you think about rolling up the plan for 26, I mean, are you Do you see the same, I guess the macro backdrop's gotten better, but do you still kind of feel like that kind of conservatism is appropriate as you think about 26? And then just related to that, the margins have been incredible this year. I think all-time record in the third quarter. It feels like margins can move up again in 26, just given all the destruction we did, but I just want to understand kind of You're starting off of a very high base and would love to get your thoughts on margin progression into 2016.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. I'll deal with the margin one first. You do have an amount of mix effect within the segments. So I think we'd have to consider that to a certain extent. But absolute profit will be fine. I don't think that we're over-earning from a margin point of view right now. If I look at each individual product line, there's nothing esoteric in there that said, yeah, but we really killed it here. So I don't expect them to come down with the fact, you know, our business model, if we do things correctly, always has rollover restructuring and productivity. We don't have that thing. We can do this every year for multiple years. And that's, always a little bit of a hedge that we have for either volatility in the top line or kind of a negative mix change. So that's positive. So to the extent that we get the product mix that we like and we're rolling forward another $40 million, that's positive to margins overall. So I think that we're good there. In terms of the setup, I think I answered it before. We took a pretty big headwind in refrigeration here. it's almost twofold percent points of growth, of organic growth. You know, we're at a 20-year low in terms of unit volume into that space this year. I mean, do we come all the way back? But again, I think that let's, you know, we've got a pretty heady number in terms of organic growth for Q4. Let's get that under our belt and let's see where bookings are and everything else. But, you know, I'd like to set up, as I said before, we like.

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Amit Mehrotra
Analyst

Okay, very good. Thank you.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

We'll move next to Scott Davis with Mielis Research. Your line is open.

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Scott Davis
Analyst, Melius Research

Hey, good morning, guys. Scott. Can you guys give some context to your data center exposure and kind of terms maybe around content per megawatt or opportunity per megawatt? I mean, do you look at it that way or?

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

No, I mean, look, we have people that try to look at that way, but let's, I mean, to be honest, in terms of participation, it's meaningful for us in terms of the volume and the margin, but in terms of the entire ecosystem and the billions of dollars being spent, we are who we are. Our focus is more getting the spec right. on the reference products for the reference customers. And that, I think that we've been highly successful in doing that on both the braced plate heat exchanger side and the thermal connector side. So to the extent that the market grows, the way we see it, we don't see a change in the competitive stack in those particular product lines. So if it grows, we'll get our fair share.

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Scott Davis
Analyst, Melius Research

OK. I'll pass it on. Thank you, guys. Good luck.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

We'll take our next question from Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

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Joe Ritchie
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thanks. Good morning, guys. Hey, Rich, can you just give a little bit more color on that Sikora acquisition? I think you said that it was significantly outperforming, so that's great to see. And then maybe just give us an update on your deal pipeline and the potential to do more in the next 12 months.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, sure. Sikora, I think that we had a head start there because we had been working with Sikora with our MOG polymer processing equipment business on our own for our own uses. And then we got to know each other. So we were able to close that because as we learned about the company, not only for our own particular use, but what they were doing and where their exposure was, we really liked it. And, you know, knock wood, it's really done fantastically. in Q1, significantly better than our DIA model would have incorporated for the base year. We are in the process of integrating Sikora. So, you know, if you take a look at that back office slide that we put in there, in all three areas, we're working pretty much done. So, we're going to take what was a single manufacturing site and probably expand it at least in two other different geographies over the next 24 months. That's great. In terms of the deal pipeline, if you look at the overall stats on M&A, it looks like M&A is up significantly, and it is, but it's really very large deals and corporate breakups and a variety of things. The mid-market, where we kind of play, has been slow. In terms of pipeline, we got an interesting pipeline there. In terms of valuation, valuations, I think they're trying to find its footing, and that's the reason we're being selective as usual. But We've got enough in the pipeline that I would expect that we'd close on a couple things over the next 12 months.

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Joe Ritchie
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Helpful. Thank you.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

We'll move next to Chris Snyder with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

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Chris Snyder
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you. I wanted to ask on orders. So positive update here in Q3, up 8% or 4% organic. But can you provide some color thoughts on the order to revenue, I guess, conversion for the company? Because, you know, you've had pretty good orders for a while now, and it hasn't really converted to the top line to the same degree that we've seen in orders. So I guess any, you know, kind of thoughts on that? And it seems like going forward, you do expect better conversion, whether it's into Q4 or 26. So thank you.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, the amount of attention that orders get and organic orders and extrapolate that into revenue is one of the great mysteries in life.

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Unidentified Speaker

But we continue to give the data.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

That is more reflective to me than orders, kind of in terms of trajectory and everything. But you're right. I mean, look, at the end of the day... We would have liked organic growth to be higher this year. I think it's been really isolated in two particular businesses. We had an inkling on the vehicle services would probably have a challenging year. We missed it on refrigeration, clearly. The good news about that is we don't believe that that has lost revenue. It's just been pushed largely into 26 now, although we'll get a nice uptick next year. So, you know, orders are up. Portfolio is in pretty good shape. I mean, if you see segments, we see it down to the individual operating company basis. As I mentioned to an earlier question, we don't see a cyclical decline in any portion of the portfolio rolling into 26, and that's probably the first time that we can say that in a couple years.

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Chris Snyder
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Thank you. I appreciate that.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

We'll take our next question from Joe O'Day with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

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Joe O’Day
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hi, good morning. Rich, you made the comment about how you're not aware of any businesses in the portfolio that are forecasting revenue down next year. I guess I'm curious about, you know, which ones you're most excited about the growth potential, just when you think about, you know, coming off of the mog swept Delvec kind of situation last year, and now you get sort of cases indoors. and the vehicle lift side. And so just thinking about, you know, what could be poised to sort of deliver kind of growth that you're getting excited about next year?

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. We highlight the growth platform. So I think, you know, you can go take a look at that. We think that we are in what should be a two to three to four year CapEx cycle in the fueling business overall, inclusive of the cryogenic components and everything that we bought in that space. So I think what was our growth this quarter, like five or five organics, which is pretty good overall. We don't see that slowing for the foreseeable future for a variety of reasons, whether it's customer capex or regulatory and everything else. Refrigeration, I think we've beaten that one to death at this point. Belvac is growing this year. I think it will grow some next year, but that's not going to move the needle in comparison to refrigeration and what's happening in braced heat exchangers. Vehicle services, we'll see. I mean, it's been a tough year because a lot of that is exposure to Europe, It's a little bit early to make a call on Europe, but I don't expect it to decline going forward. And actually, the management's done a really great job on the cost structure. So even despite the top-line headwind that you see this year,

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Unidentified Speaker

Okay.

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Joe O’Day
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thank you. It cut out at the end on me, but I heard through management doing a great job on cost structure and vehicle lift.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, yeah. So what I'm saying is if it grows a little bit next year, the incremental margin should be positive.

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Unidentified Speaker

Got it. Thank you. You're welcome.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

We'll take our next question from Dean Dre with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

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Dean Dre
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

Hi, Dean.

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Dean Dre
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

On imaging, can you expand on the point about serialization software, kind of size, what the opportunity is, and some context, please?

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. It's 16%, I guess, of the total revenue of the space.

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Chris Winker
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, it's about $60, $70 million. Okay. Anyway...

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's leveraged almost exclusively to pharma. So as pharma builds out production lines, that's when we sell the software and the reoccurring revenue associated with it. I think that everybody's pretty well aware of what's going on in kind of incentivized reshoring of pharma. And I think that we'll get our fair share of that.

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Dean Dre
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thank you. You're welcome.

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Julian Mitchell
Analyst, Barclays

we'll take our next question from Julian Mitchell with Barclays hi good morning hey I just want to understand rich a little bit better sort of how you've seen the demand environment play out because your tone is quite upbeat on the top line but the revenue guide is reiterated And so I guess to put a finer point on it, I wondered if any of the segment revenue assumptions for this year have changed since the figures you guided for it in July and whether there had been anything in the bookings that had surprised you positively, you know, the last few months or so.

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Richard J. Tobin
President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Oh, I clearly we missed on retail refrigeration by a significant amount. all the customer information that we were getting. It was on the come. I think, you know, some of the commentary that we gave intracorder, when we could see that it wasn't coming, we were like, okay, now it's not coming. But, you know, we're chasing our tail a little bit. So the quantum of that loss on a full-year basis is 1% or 2% of organic revenue growth that we had. Now it's going to flex now because the orders popped. So, at least optically, we'll have a good look in Q4 for $130, $140 million of revenue that we've got to make up year over year. We'll take half of that growth for next year, Julian, at the end of the day. The balance of the businesses, the trajectory is fine in terms of orders. We always have to be a little bit careful in Q4 because... You know, we're guessing about our customers' behavior on their own inventory at the end of the day, but I think that someone asked earlier about the, you know, someone did the math on the squeeze for revenue growth in Q4, and that's fair. So, you know, it stays within our window. It gives us a little bit of cushion just in case, you know, December is light in terms of shipments, but overall... There's really the only significant change is that biopharma hung in there because there was some thought about, well, was this restocking? And clearly it's not. We've run the numbers on that. So it's been pretty consistent in terms of demand and should be consistent in Q4. Same thing with thermal connectors. So overall... You know, there's a little bit of cushion on the revenue side in Q4, but the trajectory and the only thing that's changed is we lost basically a quarter of retail refrigeration.

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Unidentified Speaker

Great. Thank you. Thanks.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

And I would now like to turn the call back to the presenters for any additional or closing remarks.

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Jack Dickens
Vice President of Investor Relations

No, Chloe, you can wrap up.

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Chloe
Conference Call Operator

Certainly. Thank you, everyone. This concludes our question and answer period and Dover's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day.

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