11/23/2020

speaker
Rob
Conference Operator

Greetings. Welcome to Diana Shipping's 2020 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero from your telephone keypad. Please note that this conference is being recorded. At this time, I'll turn the conference over to Ed Nebb, Investor Relations for Diana Shipping. Ed, you may begin.

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Ed Nebb
Investor Relations, Diana Shipping

Well, thank you, Rob, and thanks to all of you for joining us for the Diana Shipping, Inc. 2020 Third Quarter Conference Call. The members of the company management team who are with us today include Mr. Simon Palios, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ms. Semiramis Paliu, Deputy Chief Executive Officer and Chief Operating Officer, Mr. Anastasios Margaronis, President, Mr. Yanis Zafirakis, Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer, and Secretary, and Ms. Maria Dede, Chief Accounting Officer. Before management's remarks, let me just briefly summarize the Safe Harbor Notice. Certain statements made during this call which are not historical fact are forward-looking statements as defined by the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act, and such forward-looking statements are based on assumptions, expectations, projections, and beliefs. as to future events that may or may not prove to be accurate. A description of the risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause future results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements are contained in the company's filings with the SEC. And with that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Simon Palios, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.

speaker
Simon Palios
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Diana Shipping

Simon Palios Thank you, Ed. Good morning and thank you for joining us today to discuss the results of Diana Shipping Inc. for the third quarter of 2020. As a challenging year winds towards a close, the world is still feeling the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on people's lives and global economic activity. While recent developments in terms of potential vaccines are promising, in the near term we are facing renewed lockdowns due to a resurgence of the coronavirus. Such measures will continue to negatively affect the global economy and the market demand for worldwide shipping. In response to these uncertainties, the company has continued to pursue strategies to prudently manage our financial resources, our fleet, and our overall operations. To summarize, the 2023 quarter, Diana Shipping reported a net loss of $13.2 and a net loss attributed to common shareholders of US$14.6 million for the third quarter of 2020, including a US$6.8 million in permanent loss which resulted from the agreement to sell the vessels Sideris GS and Koronis. This compares to net income of 1.8 million US dollars and net income attributed to common shareholders of 0.3 million US dollars reported in the third quarter of 2019. Time charter revenues were 42.3 million US dollars for the third quarter of 2020 compared with 53.5 million US dollars for the same period of 2019. This decrease was mainly due to the sale of vessels in 2019 and 2020 and decreased average time charter rates. The balance sheet remains sound with total cash including restricted totaling 90.4 million US dollars at September 30, 2020. We have taken several steps to strengthen our financial position in recent periods. In July, we repurchased an aggregate amount equal to $8 million of the outstanding senior unsecured bonds. You may recall that we also extended and financed several loan facilities during the second quarter to extend their maturities. With respect to fleet management, in September we agreed to sell the 2006 built vessel Coronis for a sale price of 7.1 million US dollars before commissions. Later that month we agreed to sell the 2006 built vessel Sideris GS for a sale price of 11.5 million US dollars before commissions. Both vessels will be delivered to the buyers later by January 20th, 2021. In conclusion, we are confident that Diana Shipping Inn can continue to navigate the prevailing challenging conditions while remaining sharply focused on preserving and building shareholder value. With that, I will now turn the call over to our President, Stacy Margaronis, for a perspective in industry conditions. He will then be followed by our interim chief financial officer and treasurer, Ioannis Zafirakis, who will provide a more detailed financial overview. Thank you.

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Anastasios Margaronis
President, Diana Shipping

Thank you, Simon, and thanks to all who have taken the time and trouble to participate in this quarterly conference call of the Anna Shipping Inc. The dry bulk market has responded better than feared to the disruption and upheaval caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. This will be discussed further later on in this short presentation. For now, we can look at the bulk carrier indices and compare where these stood at the beginning of the year and at what level they closed last Friday, November 20th. On January 2nd this year, the BDI stood at 976. By last Friday, it closed at 1,148. The Baltic Panamax Index started the year at 1,003 and closed at the end of last week at 1,353. The Baltic Cape Index was at 1,646 on January 2nd and ended last week at 1,435. Let us now look at the effects of the pandemic on the major economies of the world and its effects on world trade and world growth. According to Hal Robinson, the current recession caused by the COVID-19 pandemic is unique in the economic sectors it has hit hardest. Usually, these are the heavy and capital goods industries, or in the case of financial crises, the banking sector. However, this time, what were normally relatively immune sectors, such as retail, entertainment, arts, hotels, Restaurants have contracted by between 15% and 25% in the OECD during the first half of 2020 and more since then, while manufacturing, mining, construction, and power utilities have been less hard hit. Agriculture and the financial and insurance industries have remained more or less unchanged, while seabourn grain movements, as you will see later, are expected to rise significantly. According to the IMF and the OECD, world GDP will shrink by 4.4% this year, mainly due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In 2021, there are hopes that growth will return and GDP growth for the world as a whole will be about 5.2%. No doubt these numbers will be revised several times over the next few months, depending on developments with the pandemic and the vaccination process, that is when vaccines will become available to the world population as a whole. In the US, GDP is projected to drop by 4.3% this year and increase by 3.1% in 2021. In the Euro area, GDP is expected to drop by 8.3% in 2020 and increase by 5.2% in 2021. China's economy is now expected to grow by about 1.9% in 2020, according to the IMF. This, if it materializes, will make China the only G20 economy expected to record growth this year. In 2021, Chinese GDP is expected to increase by 8.2%. Let's look at seaborne trade now and the COVID-19. According to Clarkson, the COVID-19 pandemic is projected to drive a 2.3% decline in bulk or ton-mile demand over the whole year. On the other hand, the bulk area fleet is expected to grow by 3.4% in deadweight terms. This has already brought weighted average bulk carrier earnings down by about 22% year-on-year so far. However, the trends have not been uniform across commodities. The iron ore trade continues to be supported by strong Chinese demand, while grain trade is also set to record firm growth this year. At the other end of the commodity spectrum, coal has already seen shipments drop by 10% this year, and the minor bulk trade is expected to show significant declines in the full year. Overall, a fairly firm rebound in the dry bulk trade is projected for 2021. Demand is expected to grow by 4% next year, and supply is expected to increase by only 1.5%. Even though the lingering effects of any oversupply from this year could present downside risks, Clarkson believes that the supply-demand forecasts for next year will allow fundamental rebalancing to take place in the sector, which should eventually bring firmer earnings. Let's take a look at iron ore now. Clarkson predicts that world iron ore seaborne imports will increase by 2% this year and by a further 2% in 2021. Chinese seaborne imports have gone up by 11% during the first three quarters of this year, mainly due to the following factors. First, subdued iron ore demand elsewhere, which has seen cargoes diverted, so to speak, to China. Secondly, firm steel production growth in China. And third, the decrease of availability of scrap steel in China, which has boosted iron ore demand from steel mills. According to Banquero Costa, total steel output in China from January to September 2020 came to 783.3 million tons, up by 4.9% compared to the same period in 2019. According to Comodo Research, Vale's iron ore exports remain likely to surge during the final few weeks of this year and first couple of months in 2021. Hal Robinson concurred with this view based on guidance provided by Vale according to which the company will try its utmost to meet its target of 310 million tons for this year. Hal Robinson continued by stating that future production by Vale will be sold rather than stored. meaning that inventory stocks will be replenished at a considerably lower pace between 2021 and 2022 than seen in the past. Coking coal now. According to Clarkson, global seaborn coking coal demand is currently projected to decline 10% this year due to major impacts to steel industries globally as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. For next year, Clarkson projects an increase of shipments by about 7%, which will bring volumes shipped to about 259 million tons worldwide. This will be lower than what was imported worldwide in 2018, and only 3 million tons higher than shipments seen in 2017. Steam coal now. According to Clarkson, global seabourn steam coal trade remains under significant pressure due to the impacts from the COVID-19 pandemic. Volumes traded this year are expected to drop by 8% and come to 937 million tons, compared to last year's 1.021 billion tons. For 2021, Clarksons project an increase of 4% compared to this year. In China, it is widely reported that to meet winter demands of steam coal, the government is keen to boost domestic production rather than import coal for that purpose. According to Plaxon, Chinese demand for imported coal is projected to decline by 4% this year and by a further 3% in 2021. Turning to grain now. Plaxon predicts that world seabourn grain demand is expected to reach a record 506 million tons this year, which is about 6% higher than last year. In 2021, a further 3% increase is projected, taking the total to 521 million tons. China is projected to increase its imports of wheat and coarse grains by 80% and 45%, respectively, this year, as Chinese state buyers have sought to bolster strategic reserves and stockpiles. Jackson's believe that Chinese seabourn grain imports are likely to continue to expand into 2021 based on demand from sectors such as animal feed, which are set to continue growing strongly. The USDA reported sharply higher soybean shipments to China in September and October, reaching about two million tons per week. This is a number not seen since 2017, before the trade war between the US and China began. Let's turn to some environmental issues and alternative fuels. According to Gibson, the European Parliament has adopted the recommendations of its Environmental Committee made in July this year and voted to include greenhouse gas emissions from shipping in the emissions trading systems from January 2022. This means that by 2030, owners must reduce emission levels by 43% from 2005 levels. According to Gibson, turning to fuels now, ammonia is attracting interest as an alternative carbon-free fuel. They claim it is easier to store than hydrogen, though it does present plenty of challenges in that respect. And there is some industry expertise when it comes to handling it on board. However, the main barrier to it being used as a fuel for shipping is that it is acutely toxic. It is believed that ammonia can be used in a fuel cell in a conventional engine. Plenty of significant technological advances, though, are still needed for ammonia fuel cells to become a viable alternative technology for shipping. Maritime transport currently contributes about 940 million tons of CO2 annually, which is 2.5% of global greenhouse gas emissions. A rather small percentage, one would say, considering shipping's contribution to world trade. Turning to crew changes and the effects that COVID-19 had in that sector, according to the IMO, there are about 300,000 seafarers on board vessels unable to be relieved, despite in some cases having served considerably beyond the 11-month limit stipulated by the Maritime Labor Convention. The numerous restrictions and obstacles that prevent crew changes have created the humanitarian crisis at sea, according to the IMO Secretary-General Kitak Lim. Unfortunately, the rate of progress is not keeping pace with the backlog of ships requiring crew changes. Let's look at the new building order book now. According to Clarkson, as of the end of September, there were 633 bulkers on order globally with carrying capacity of 59 million gross tons. In deadweight terms, the dry bulk order book has shrunk by 35% so far this year. There were 126 capes on order, representing 7.8% of the world fleet by deadweight. About 165 Panamaxes and post-Panamaxes, up to 100,000 tons deadweight, were in the order book, amounting to 6% of the fleet by deadweight. The total bulk carrier order book came to 57 million deadweight, equivalent to only 6.3% of the trading fleet. A quick look at the price spread in very low sulfur fuel and high sulfur fuel prices and scrubber-fitted bulkers. Claxton's report that as of the beginning of October, there were 1,257 bulkers of 187.1 million dead weight or 20.7% of total capacity fitted with a scrubber. As much as 40.9% of case size capacity is now scrubber-fitted. However, the share of the bulk of fleet under retrofit had fallen to 0.2% by October, down from 2.2% in January this year. By the end of October this year, banker prices at the world's four largest banker imports, Singapore, Rotterdam, Houston, and Fujairah, showed the average spread at approximately $54 per ton. This was up from $49 per ton earlier in the month. Commodore research reminds us that at the start of the year, the spread stood at approximately $358 per ton. Australia and China relations. According to Braemar, it has been widely reported that in July this year, the Australian government backed the call for an independent investigation into the origins of the coronavirus and China's initial handling of the outbreak. The first reaction by the Chinese government was the imposition of an 80% tariff on barley purchases from Australia. Since that time, Chinese power stations and steel mills have been told to immediately stop using Australian coal. Apparently, a deadline was set, November 6th, after which date all coal from Australia reaching Chinese ports will not be eligible for customs clearance. Australian coal shipments to China are likely to remain depressed for the foreseeable future, and Australian coal is being resold into different markets. Chinese buyers are looking to other suppliers of high-quality coal. Russia has been one of these suppliers but has been unable to increase production fast enough to satisfy Chinese demand. This could translate to more long-haul trades from Canada and the United States. but will also increase the flow of overland coal volumes into China from Mongolia, something we have seen already take place from September onwards. According to Commodore research, up to the end of August this year, China had imported 46% of its coal imports from Indonesia, 32% from Australia, 10% from Russia, 7% from Mongolia, and 5% from a variety of other exporters. marked a dramatic change with 15% sourced from Russia and 28% sourced from Mongolia. Australian imports have been reduced dramatically. The question now remains if iron ore and natural gas will also be affected by the deteriorating trade relations between the two countries. A quick look at the age profile of the fleet. According to Banquero Costa, about 10% of the trading fleet of Panamaxes is over 20 years old, and 14% is between 15 and 19 years old. The age profile of capes is better. Only 2% are over 20 years old, and 10% are between 15 and 19 years old. We need to keep in mind that due to their trade, capes have a life expectancy that is between three and five years shorter than Panamaxers and the Kamshamaks. Let's look at demolition now. According to Banquero Costa, at least 85 units of a combined 11.26 million deadweight had been sold for scrap up to the end of October this year. This is 98% more tonnage compared to the same period last year. Apart from the caves mentioned below, this number included seven Panamaxes as well as one post-Panamax vessel. The rest were smaller ships. According to Breymar, the cave-side sector has seen the highest level of scrapping so far this year. About 45 vessels have already left the trading fleet, with a total carrying capacity of 10.6 million deadweight. This represents, in deadweight terms, about 78% of all dry bulk removals so far this year. On the fleet numbers now, according to Banquero Costa, net fleet growth this year is expected to come in at around 4%. While for 2021, it is expected to drop to 2%, numbers slightly higher than what we mentioned earlier. The Cape size fleet is expected to increase by 5% this year and by 2% in 2021. Similar numbers are projected for the growth of the Panamax fleet, which are defined as ships up to 85,000 deadweight. And new building contracting, in the first 10 months of this year, at least 86 units of 7.34 million deadweight were reported contracted. This includes 15 capes, eight post-Panamaxes, and 19 Panamaxes. The rest were smaller ships, and there were no VLOCs ordered. Let's finally turn to the outlook for our industry. We agree with Gibson Ship Brokers that freight rates should move higher this coming quarter, based on the industrial impetus in China, leading to increased seaborn volume and demand. According to Komodo research, the Cape-sized market needs plenty of extra iron ore volume to import from its present level. Fortunately, Chinese iron ore demand prospects remain very encouraging, and Vale recently has been indicating, as mentioned above, that not only its production, but also sales volume will fare well in the near term. Firm grain shipments during the new grain shipment season should also help underpin Panamax and post-Panamax earnings over the next few quarters. The statistics and forecasts mentioned above make us reasonably optimistic as regards the prospects of the bulk carrier industry for next year. As has been consistently the case thus far, we at Diana Shipping will protect the solidity of the company's balance sheet and make the best use possible of funds received from the recent sales of tonnage That has been the case over the last year or so. We anticipate that unless heavy new building contracting resumes next year, the market will finally get a much-needed boost in earnings. On this note, I will turn the call to our interim CFO, Yannis Apirakis, who will provide us with the highlights of the third quarter and nine months 2020 financial highlights. Thank you.

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

Thank you, Stassi. Good morning to everyone. I'm pleased to be discussing today with you the Diana's operational results for the third quarter in nine months, ended September 30th, 2020. During the third quarter, we recorded a net loss attributed to common stockholders of $14.6 million, or $0.17 per share, and that included an impairment loss of $6.8 million. As you are probably aware, in 2019, we sold six of our vessels, and in the third quarter of 2020, another two, which are about to be delivered to their new owners. And that decreased the ownership days this quarter to 3,719 compared to 4,027 for the same quarter in 2019. The fact that we had less ownership days together with the deteriorated market conditions led to lower revenues of $42.3 million compared to $53.5 million for the same quarter in 2019. Voyage expenses were at $2.9 million compared to $3.3 million for the same quarter in 2019. And the decrease in revenues resulted to decrease the daily time charter equivalent rate, which was at $10,735 compared to $12,682 for the same quarter of 2019. The fleet utilization was at 97.3% compared to 99.4% the same quarter last year. During the quarter in discussion, our versus operating expenses decreased to 21.3 million compared to 22 million of last year. Of course, the total number of operating expenses was lower than the previous year. And this is why the daily operating expenses were increased to 5,732 compared to 5,458 for the same quarter of 2019. Everybody has to understand that this increase is mainly due to increased crew expenses and other COVID-19 related issues. Our general and administrative expenses increased to $9.5 million compared to $7.1 million for the same quarter last year. And this was mainly due to one-off accelerated vesting of restricted share, which resulted to increased compensation costs on restricted stock. On the other hand, we are very satisfied that interest and finance costs continued to decrease in this quarter due to the decreased interest rates and decreased average debt, and that was strengthened by the repurchase of the $8 million of our bond. Now, for the nine months ended September 30, 2020, net loss attributed to common shareholders amounted to $131 million or $1.53 per share. But again, this included $102.5 million in permanent loss and $1.1 million loss from sale of vessels. The time charter revenues decreased to $127.1 million compared to $169.2 million for the same period last year. And that was due to the same reasons that we mentioned earlier. Similarly, the daily time charter equivalent rate decreased to $10,900 per day compared to $12,961 of last year. Again, fleet utilization was at 97.3% compared to 99.2% in 2019. And that was due to extended delays faced, of course, due to COVID-19 issues and the increased number of scheduled dry docks that we had for that period. The vessel operating expenses amounted to 63.4 million compared to 67.2 million for 2019. The decrease in operating expenses was due to the decrease in ownership days and was upset by increased operating expenses in insurances, repairs, and taxes. Daily operating expenses in 2020 were $5,639 compared to $5,367 for 2019. The general and administrative expenses, again, as we said earlier regarding the third quarter, for the nine months increased to $25.7 million compared to $20.8 million in 2019. And as I said earlier, that was because of the accelerated vesting of restricted shares of board members, which was due to the company's restructuring in 2020 and its complete separation from performance shipping in. Interest and finance costs amounted to $16.9 million, significantly lower compared to 22.7 million of last year, and again, we are very satisfied with that. Thank you for your attention, and I would like now to turn the call to the operator who will instruct you as to the procedure for asking questions.

speaker
Rob
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting the question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question today, please press star 1 from your telephone keypad, and a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants that are using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Randy Givens with Jefferies. Please proceed with your questions.

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Randy Givens
Analyst, Jefferies

Howdy, Team Diana. How's it going?

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

Hi, Randy.

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Randy Givens
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, Eddington. Great to hear you again, Samian. Hope you're feeling well.

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Simon Palios
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Diana Shipping

Thank you very much. I'm doing very well, indeed.

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Randy Givens
Analyst, Jefferies

Sounds like it. Good deal. Well, looking at your fleet, you recently sold the Sedaris GS, the Cronus. What will you do with the proceeds and maybe any plans for additional vessel sales here in the next few months?

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

Yes, it is our intention to sell some of our older tonnage. We have not decided yet which vessels we are going to be selling in the next quarter or so. Definitely, we are talking about one or two vessels to be sold in the next quarter. Selling our vessels is a conscious decision that we do, not because we have a plan for the money that we are going to get. We are not pressed by anything to do so. So we think that taking it slowly, we are going to have a good average as regards the sale of our vessels, that they are the vessels that they have been built many years ago. And of course, they are the first candidates. They are the vessels that they are on mortgage as we speak. We have not, as I said at the beginning, made up our minds yet which vessels we're going to be selling during the next quarter, but we will know soon.

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Randy Givens
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. And then I know in July, you repurchased 8 million of those unsecured notes, but none in maybe the recent months. So is that a target here for use of cash going forward? Is it the unsecured notes? Is it common shares? Is it just kinda keeping it on the balance sheet in a more defensive posture?

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

Yes, we're gonna take, again, a defensive position. So the first option of ours that we are considering is to keep the money aside. Then I'm taking them again on order. Then the second option is to buy back our bond, part of our bond. The third option is to buy back our shares. And the fourth option is to buy more vessels. Again, I want to stress to have your attention in what I was saying earlier, We are the rulers of our destiny and we are in a very strong position to have the option to decide what we want to do with the cars, with the vessels that we have for sale, etc. And this is the best position that a company would be as we speak today.

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Randy Givens
Analyst, Jefferies

Okay. That makes sense. And I guess one quick modeling question. You know, G&A fell pretty materially from the first quarter to the second quarter, but then increased again in the third quarter. So just trying to get a modeling guidance, I guess, for the fourth quarter and then 21 for G&A.

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

Okay. As we said in my speech earlier, The third quarter numbers that you show, they were highly increased because of an accelerated vesting of shares of two board members that they have left our company and also accelerated shares of a company owned by Mr. Paglios because of the restructuring that we said that we had to do and the fact that We have nothing to do now with performance shipping. We are completely separated. So you should not expect to have this type of GNAs. I suggest that they're going to look like the first quarter of 2019 rather than anything else.

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Randy Givens
Analyst, Jefferies

Got it. All right, well, that's it for me. Thanks again, and happy Thanksgiving from here in the U.S.

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Simon Palios
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Diana Shipping

The same to you.

speaker
Rob
Conference Operator

As a reminder, to ask a question today, you may press star 1 from your telephone keypad. The next question is from the line of Omar Noca with Clarkson's Plateau. Please receive your question.

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Omar Noca
Analyst, Clarkson's Platou

Thank you. Hey, guys. I just wanted to maybe follow up on Randy's questions about the debt and whatnot. It was helpful, and I think it's fairly consistent with what you said earlier in the year about the options. You've got the cash, you're leaving on the balance sheet, option one, then buy back the bonds, then stock, then ships. I know that you mentioned the $8 million buyback of the Norwegian bonds in July, and I remember from the last call, you had outlined your adjusted debt repayment schedule, which would be $10 million a quarter for each of the third and fourth quarters, and then a total of $40 million in 2021. Is that still relatively the same amount as we look here for the fourth quarter and for next year?

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

That is correct. The The maturities today as we speak, we are talking about in 2021, we have zero maturities and the only thing you have is amortization of debt. And in 2022, if we do not exercise the option that we have in Nordea, it's going to be around $100 million. Of course, you have to understand that most probably the Nordea option is going to be exercised. And our main target now, and we have to see what we're going to do, and we will start from the beginning of next year, is to try and bring forward everything we have for 2023 that we have the maturity of the bond as well. So we will be very active to that respect, and this is one of our targets. I know that someone may consider 2023 being far away, but you know how we operate and we will try to make it better and we will start from the beginning of next year.

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Omar Noca
Analyst, Clarkson's Platou

Thanks, Yannis, for that. And maybe just for clarity, you mentioned, I know that the Nordea loan or the bank facility due in 2022, there is that option feature. And you mentioned it's $100 million that's due if you do not exercise the option?

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

Yes, the maturity is for 2021 sorry, 2022 it's $108 million. We are talking about Nordea having $42 million in March if we do not exercise the option in March 2022. But we have no reason to believe that this is not going to be exercised and accepted by Nordea.

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Omar Noca
Analyst, Clarkson's Platou

Okay, so that would, if everything is exercised and approved, and that would imply something closer to maybe 65, 70 million? Yes, yes. Okay. Okay. Okay, and then just one other question just on the, you know, Randy mentioned the Coronis and the Sedaris vessels that were sold. Are those still on track to close in the first quarter with roughly maybe 17, 18 million of cash coming in?

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Yanis Zafirakis
Interim Chief Financial Officer, Chief Strategy Officer, Treasurer and Secretary, Diana Shipping

We are trying for the one vessel to finalize and complete the sale during the fourth quarter of 2020. We think that we have a good probability of achieving that. And the next one looks like being in the first quarter of 2021.

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Omar Noca
Analyst, Clarkson's Platou

Okay, thank you. Got it. All right, that's it for me. Thanks, guys.

speaker
Rob
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'll turn the floor back to management for closing remarks.

speaker
Simon Palios
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Diana Shipping

Thank you again for your interest in and support of Diana Shipping. We look forward to speaking with you in the future. Thank you.

speaker
Rob
Conference Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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