Devon Energy Corporation

Welcome to Devon Energy's third quarter 2020 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. This call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr. Scott Cootie, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

Good morning, and thank you to everyone for joining us on the call today. Last night, we issued an earnings release and presentation that cover our results for the third quarter and updated outlook for the remainder of the year. Throughout the call today, we'll make references to our earnings presentation to support our prepared remarks. And these slides can be found on our website at devinenergy.com. Also joining me on the call today are Dave Hager, our president and CEO, David Harris, our executive vice president of exploration and production, Jeff Rittenhour, our chief financial officer, and a few other members of our senior management team. Comments on the call today will include plans, forecasts, and estimates that are forward-looking statements under U.S. securities law. These comments are subject to assumptions, risks, and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from our forward-looking statements. Please take note of the cautionary language and risk factors provided in our SEC filings and earnings materials. With that, I'll turn the call over to Dave.

Thank you, Scott, and good morning. We appreciate everyone taking the time to join us on the call today and for your interest in Devon. For the purpose of today's call, my comments will be centered on three key points, our outstanding third quarter results, our improved outlook for the remainder of the year, and the benefits of our recently announced merger with WPX. On slide seven of our earnings presentation, I'll begin my prepared remarks by covering a few key highlights from our outstanding third quarter results. Across the portfolio, our teams are responding to a challenging operating environment by delivering results that continue to exceed production and capital efficiency targets, while successfully driving down per unit operating costs and maximizing margins. This is evidenced by several noteworthy accomplishments in the quarter, including oil production exceeding midpoint guidance by 6,000 barrels per day, complemented with capital spending that was once again below forecast. Furthermore, we continued to expand margins through improvements in our cost structure, headlined by operating expenses that were 8% below guidance, and G&A costs that were reduced 30% year over year. With this strong operational performance, we generated $223 million of free cash flow in the quarter. And just after quarter end, with the closing of the Barnett transaction, but we paid out a $100 million special dividend. All in all, the third quarter was an excellent one, both operationally and financially, as we executed at a very high level on every single strategic objective that underpins our business model. This strong performance is a testament to the hard work and dedication of our team, and I want to thank our employees for their continued commitment to excellence. Moving to slide 11, With the strong results our business has delivered to date, we are now raising our outlook for the remainder of 2020. Not surprisingly, this improved outlook is underpinned by the outstanding well performance we are experiencing in the Delaware Basin. And as a result, we are now increasing our full-year oil guidance for the second consecutive quarter. Looking specifically at the upcoming quarter, We now expect our oil production to average 148,000 to 153,000 barrels per day, a 7,000 barrels per day improvement versus prior guidance expectations. Importantly, we are delivering this incremental production with $30 million less capital compared to the revised budget we issued earlier this year. We also continue with a sense of urgency to materially improve our cash cost structure in order to get the most out of every barrel we produce. With this intense focus, we are on track to reduce LOE and GP&T costs by approximately 50 cents per unit, or 6%, compared to our previous expectations. To achieve this step-level improvement in field-level costs, we have meaningfully reduced our recurring LOE expense across several categories, including chemical and disposal costs, compression, and contract labor. We have also taken steps to streamline our organization's corporate cost structure. This is clearly demonstrated by our G&A expense trajectory improving by around $35 million compared to the revised budget, and we expect to achieve a $250 million G&A run rate target by year end. Turning briefly to slide 13, the positive impact from higher volumes, better capital efficiency, and strong cost discipline has resulted in increasing amounts of free cash flow in 2020. Including the proceeds of the Barnett Shale divestiture that closed on October 1st, we are on pace to generate around $900 million of free cash flow this year. This is a tremendous accomplishment given the incredibly challenging conditions we have faced this year. And importantly, with this excess cash flow, we have rewarded shareholders with higher dividend payments. Turning your attention back to slide three of our presentation, I would like to cover the strategic rationale underpinning our recently announced merger with WPX. This groundbreaking transaction, announced on September 28th, represents the first true merger of equals within the EMP space in nearly two decades. The strategic combination of Devin and WPX is transformational as we unite our complementary assets to create a leading unconventional oil producer in the U.S. with an asset base underpinned by a premium position in the economic core of the Delaware Basin. By bringing together our respective companies, shareholders will benefit from enhanced scale, immediate cost synergies, higher free cash flow, and the financial strength to accelerate the return of cash to shareholders through an industry-first fixed plus variable dividend strategy. Additionally, the low premium stock-for-stock combination underscores our confidence that this transaction will allow shareholders of both companies to benefit from synergy realization and the powerful upside potential associated with our financially driven business model. The path to completing this merger is progressing well. We received HSR clearance last week. The S4 proxy will be filed within the next few days, and both companies plan to hold shareholder votes around year-end to finalize the merger. Integration plans are also underway, led by a transition team comprised of senior leaders from each company. In addition to ensuring a seamless transition, the team is also tasked with capitalizing on the synergies and operational efficiencies that contribute to the significant upside of the combined company. Moving to slide four, the value of our merger with WPXY is not only in the power of our enhanced scale and strong financial position, but also in how we will manage our company in the future. As I have mentioned many times in the past, with a commodity business such as ours, Any successful strategy must be grounded in supply and demand fundamentals. We understand the maturing demand dynamics for our industry and recognize the traditional EMP growth model of the past is not a viable strategy going forward. To win in the next phase of the energy cycle, a successful company must deploy a financially driven business model that prioritizes cash returns directly to shareholders. Devin is an industry leader in his cash return movement, and with this highly disciplined strategy, we are absolutely committed to limiting top-line growth aspirations to 5% or less in times of favorable conditions, pursuing margin expansion through operational scale and leaner corporate structure, moderating investment rates to 70% to 80% of operating cash flow, maintaining extremely low levels of leverage to establish a greater margin of safety, and returning more cash directly to shareholders through quarterly and variable dividends. I believe these shareholder-friendly initiatives that underpin our cash return business model will transform Devon from a highly efficient oil and gas operator to a prominent and consistent builder of economic value through the cycles. With the extreme price volatility we have recently experienced, I do want to provide a few preliminary thoughts on 2021. While it is a bit too early to provide any formal guidance, I want to be clear that our top priorities are to protect our financial strength, aggressively reduce costs, and protect our productive capacity. We believe we can accomplish all these objectives in the current operating environment. In fact, with our strong hedging position and pro forma cost structure, we can fund our maintenance capital program at an ultra-low break-even level of $33 WTI pricing, if not lower with the leading edge results we are achieving in the Delaware. We will provide more formalized guidance for 2021 upon completion of the merger with WPX, but we will remain mindful of commodity prices nimble with our capital plans, and we will invest responsibly to protect shareholder value during this time of uncertainty. And finally, on slide five, another critically important component of Devon's business model is our commitment to delivering top-tier ESG performance. Doing business the right way has always been a focal point for Devon and predates the growing focus on ESG that has taken off in recent years. We believe that strong performance in the ESG space is essential and impacts every aspect of our business, operationally and financially. As with all other aspects of our business, our focus is to control what we can control while providing energy the world needs, and we take pride in fulfilling this need in a reliable and responsible manner. As such, our top environmental priorities include eliminating routine flaring, reducing emissions, and advancing water recycling. In addition to these environmental objectives, we strive to cultivate an inclusive and diverse workplace where broad experiences and fresh perspectives can sharpen our competitive edge. From a governance perspective, we are proud that the combined company will have a strong, diverse, and independent board. committed to responsible operations to advance the best interest of all stakeholders. The bottom line is we are committed to these principles, which is underscored by the inclusion of ESG performance as a key measure in our compensation structure. So in summary, I want to emphasize that the Go Forward Devin has all the necessary attributes to successfully navigate and flourish in today's environment and to create value for many years to come. Our shareholder-friendly strategy is designed to result in attractive returns and free cash flow yields that will compete with any sector in the market. The combination of our top-tier asset portfolio, proven leadership team, and disciplined business model offers a unique investment proposition in the E&P space. And with that, I'm going to turn the call over to David Harris to cover a few of our operational highlights from the quarter. Good morning, everyone. As Dave touched on, Devon's operations are hitting on all cylinders as we have repeatedly delivered best-in-class results over the past several quarters. Turning your attention to slide eight of our earnings presentation, our world-class Delaware Basin asset is the capital-efficient growth engine driving Devon's operational outperformance in the third quarter. With our capital activity almost exclusively focused in the Delaware, our high-margin production continued to rapidly advance, growing 22% on a year-over-year basis. During the third quarter, our operated activity consisted of nine drilling rigs and three dedicated frack crews, resulting in 32 new wells commencing first production. With most of these completions weighted towards the back half of the quarter, only 14 of these new wells meaningfully impacted production totals in the third quarter by attaining peak production rates. Overall, initial 30-day production rates from these 14 wells averaged an impressive 3,900 BOE per day, of which greater than 65% was oil, and those wells collectively rank among the very best results we have delivered to date in this world-class basin. While we had great results across our Delaware Basin acreage position in the quarter, new well activity was highlighted by the record-setting well productivity from our Cobra project in Lee County. This two-well, three-mile lateral development targeting the XY Sands and the Upper Wolf Camp achieved average 30-day rates of approximately 7,300 BOE per day or 475 BOE per 1,000 feet of lateral. These wells, drilled in the deepest part of the basin, are the longest wells drilled in the history of the Delaware by measured depth and are the highest rate Wolf Camp wells we have brought online to date at Devon. Importantly, the capital cost for the Cobra project came in nearly 20% below our pre-drill expectations. Our result at Cobra is another example of the industry-leading performance we have consistently achieved in the Delaware over the past few years. This performance reflects the quality of our acreage and our technical understanding of the subsurface that allows us to identify the best landing zones. Furthermore, with the experience of drilling hundreds of horizontal wells in the basin, our results are aided by understanding parent-child dynamics, appropriate well spacing per development, and customized completion designs to optimize results. I am confident we can continue to deliver this differentiated well productivity in the Delaware going forward. Our large, contiguous stack pay position in the economic core of the play provides us a multi-decade inventory opportunity, and we have a deep inventory of approved federal drilling permits in hand that essentially cover all of our desired activity over the next presidential term. Turning your attention to the left hand of slide nine, in addition to strong well productivity, another key highlight for the quarter is the substantially improved drilling and completion cost results we've achieved in the Delaware Basin. This is evidenced by our drilled and completed costs reaching $560 per lateral foot in the third quarter, a 40% improvement compared to 2018. These results are absolutely best in class among our peers. The key drivers of this performance are the continual optimization of drilling and completion designs, along with repetition gains from drilling two-mile Wolf Camp wells and non-productive time improvements across all phases of the value chain. These are truly special results, and I would like to congratulate our operating team for this outstanding accomplishment. However, we are never done improving and based on leading edge results, we expect our steadily improving cycle times and costs to provide a capital efficiency tailwind into 2021. Shifting your attention to the right-hand portion of the slide, we have also done a lot of good work to expand our margins by lowering per unit operating costs by 26% since 2018. One of the most meaningful sources of cost improvement is the scalable infrastructure we have proactively built out. We have nearly all of our oil and produced water connected to pipes to avoid the higher expense of trucking and is also a major positive from a safety and an environmental perspective. Looking specifically at our water infrastructure, we are fully integrated with nine water recycling facilities, 40 operated saltwater disposal wells, and connections to several third-party water systems. This operating scale and flexibility allows us to source more than 90% of our operational water needs from either recycled or brackish water at costs that are well below market rates. This strategic infrastructure provides the advantage of avoiding the extremely high expense of trucking in the remote desert of southeast New Mexico, which can easily exceed a couple of dollars per barrel. A few other important contributing factors to our cost improvement in the Delaware are the use of leading edge data analytics that have reduced controllable downtime in the field by 12% year over year, as well as supply chain initiatives that leverage our purchasing power to secure services at advantage rates. The bottom line is that the hard work and thoughtful planning from our operations team and supply chain personnel positions us to capture additional savings that many of our competitors cannot. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff Rittenhour for a brief financial review. Thanks, David.

My comments today will be focused on a brief review of our financial results for the quarter and the next steps in the execution of our financial strategy. A good place to start today is by reviewing our financial performance in the quarter, where Devin's earnings and cash flow per share comfortably exceeded consensus estimates. Operating cash flow for the third quarter totaled $427 million, a rebound of nearly 200% compared to last quarter. This level of cash flow fully funded our capital spending requirements and generated $223 million cash flow in the quarter. At the end of September, Devin had $4.9 billion of liquidity, consisting of $1.9 billion of cash on hand and $3 billion of undrawn capacity on our unsecured credit facility. Subsequent to quarter end on October 1st, our liquidity was further bolstered by the closing of our Barnett Shale divestiture. For those of you not familiar with the transaction, we agreed to sell our Barnett Shale assets for up to $830 million of total proceeds, consisting of $570 million in cash and contingent payments of up to $260 million. After adjusting for purchase price adjustments, which includes a $170 million deposit we received in April and accrued cash flow from the effective date, we received a net cash payment at closing of $320 million. In conjunction with the closing of this transaction, we returned a portion of the proceeds to shareholders by way of a $100 million special dividend. This special dividend was paid on October 1st in the amount of 26 cents per share. With the excess cash inflows our business is on track to generate in 2020, we expect our cash balances to exceed $2 billion by year end. The top priority for the large amount of cash we have accumulated is the repayment of up to $1.5 billion of outstanding debt between Devin and WPX. This debt reduction plan will provide a nice uplift to the GoFord company's cash flow, resulting in interest savings of approximately $75 million on an annual run rate basis. We expect to execute our debt reduction plan throughout 2021 with completion by year end. We'll be mindful of macroeconomic conditions and remain flexible with how we execute the repurchases, which may include both open market transactions and tender offers. Should commodity prices deteriorate from current levels, we'll prioritize liquidity and defer debt repurchases to a more appropriate time. Longer term, it is our fundamental belief that a successful E&P company must maintain extremely low levels of leverage. In accordance with this belief, we'll continue to manage towards our stated leverage target of around one times net debt to EBITDA. Turning your attention to slide 14, with our business scaled to consistently generate free cash flow, another key financial priority for Devin is to further accelerate the return of cash to shareholders through higher dividends. However, we believe the traditional dividend growth model deployed by most U.S.-based companies is flawed when applied to a commodities business. The historical practice and industry of raising the fixed quarterly dividend in times of prosperity and cutting the dividend or underinvesting in the core business during down cycles is not an optimal solution. With these specific challenges in mind, we're implementing an industry-first fixed plus variable dividend framework to optimize the return of cash to shareholders through the cycle. This progressive dividend strategy is uniquely designed for our inherently volatile business, whereby a sustainable fixed dividend is paid every quarter and a supplemental variable dividend is also calculated and reviewed each quarter. More specifically, upon closing of our merger with WPX, Devin's fixed quarterly dividend will remain unchanged and paid quarterly at a rate of 11 cents per share, with a target payout of approximately 10% of operating cash flow, assuming mid-cycle pricing. In addition to the fixed quarterly dividend, up to 50% of the excess free cash flow in a given quarter will be distributed to shareholders through the supplemental variable dividend if certain liquidity, leverage, and forward-looking price criteria are met. In conjunction with this more flexible dividend payout strategy, we will also utilize a portion of the combined company's excess free cash flow to further improve our balance sheet and evaluate opportunistic share repurchases. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Scott for Q&A.

Thanks, Chip. We will now open the call to Q&A. Please limit yourself to one question and a follow-up. With that, operator, we'll take our first question.

And as a reminder, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad if you would like to ask a question. Our first question comes from Doug Legate with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Hey, good morning, guys. This is actually Kalei on for Doug. Morning. I've got two questions that I made. Both are related to public policy on oil and gas. So under a potential Biden administration, obviously there is risk to the industry. Firstly, what's your understanding of the potential subsidies to the industry that could be targeted? And specifically, I'm thinking about items like IVCs or even a minimum book tax that could raise cash costs on the business. How would this change items like your breakeven and how you would pursue your activity levels? Hey, this is Jeff. You know, to be honest, I don't have a lot of specific details around, you know, any changes that the Biden administration is planning or has talked about. You know, certainly to the extent that, you know, IDC were to be limited or changed in some way, that would be impactful, you know, certainly to our financial results and the taxable income that we would generate as a company. So that's something we'll certainly have to be on a watch for and be mindful of, but we don't have any specific details know details at this point in time all right thanks uh for my second question i'd just like to ask for an update on your federal acreage plans um how many permits have been secured uh to what date does that bring you to and if that window if you anticipate that window closing under a new administration to obtain permits what do you think that would close

Well, I'll start off here and David provide details. You know, I think we said in our prepared remarks that we anticipate having about 650 federal permits by the end of the year. 80% of those are going to be in the Delaware Basin or about 520 federal permits in the Delaware Basin by the end of the year is our anticipation. The key point of that is that that covers four years of activity that we would anticipate in a Delaware basin. And that's keeping in mind when I say that, even under the maintenance capital scenario where production overall for the company would remain flat, that means, though, in the Delaware basin, we would be growing our production. So that's a level of permits that would allow production to actually grow in the Delaware basin while keeping the overall production for the company as flat. And You know, the other thing I'd mention, too, is keep in mind we are very well aligned with the state here, that 40 percent of the revenue in New Mexico comes from oil and gas activities. And the state understands extremely well. Governor Grisham, who's on the Biden transition team, understands and supports very much oil and gas activity in the state. So I know there's a lot of discussion around this, and I understand why, but the alignment with the state and what we do as an industry for the state to help out with other social needs that the state has is extremely important. And everyone in the state of New Mexico understands that. And so it's a great hypothetical question, but frankly, we think most likely is that things will slow down, but there's not going to be a stopping of activity on federal acreage. Even if there is, we have four years' worth of activity covered with the permits we anticipate by the end of the year. So, David, did I miss anything there? No, you didn't. I couldn't have said it better myself. I think you covered all the relevant points and agree with everything you said.

Guys, I appreciate that answer. Maybe if I could just ask a follow-up for clarification. I'm just wondering if any of the 650 permits that have been secured, if they require any extensions by the federal government, because four years is obviously a long period of time.

Yeah, federal permits are issued with a two-year term, and then you have the ability to extend them for an additional two years. So certainly permits that would be out past that two-year term would require us to go through the extension process. But a couple of things I'd point out to you there, we've never had an extension denied before. And it's important to note that the permits are underlied by an environmental assessment program. that's done as part of the permitting process, and those environmental assessments are good for a period of five years. So the answer to your question is yes, but we don't foresee any material impacts from that.

Perfect. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Brian Singer with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Good morning. Morning, Brian. Another topic that's come up here with some of the M&A that's happened in the Permian Basin after the Devon WPX announcement is the topic of decline rates. And you highlighted the very strong well performance that you're seeing and have been seeing in the Delaware Basin. And I wonder if you could give us an update on where you see your Permian and corporate decline rate and how you expect that to evolve in 2021 in a maintenance program.

Good morning, Brian. This is David Harris. Yeah, as we've talked about in the past, just starting with our year-end reserve report that we filed last year, if you look at those decline rates on a company-wide basis, that put us in kind of the high 30s percent on an oil basis and in the low 30s on a BOE basis. As we move forward into this year and as we've been moderating capital and then combined with some of the fantastic work that the teams are doing this From a base production perspective, which we continue to see outperform quarter over quarter, our expectation is that on a company-wide basis, that oil rate would move from the high 30s to the low 30s, and on a BUE basis, down into the mid-20s.

Great. Thank you. And then my follow-up is also with regards to the Permian. On slide 10... You talk about in detail the various projects that you have and where in the order of completion drilling and production they lie. And I wondered as you contemplate the WPX acquisition and you think about where a maintenance drilling program between the two companies, where you would prioritize. How would you see the Devon Legacy drilling activity evolving? How would this, you know, the main areas that you highlight on the top left of slide 10, would you be drilling more or fewer wells there? How would you think about the prioritization in the context of having those WPX assets?

Well, we're still in the process of developing, obviously, a combined 2021 capital program. We're doing everything specific to lay out there, but obviously in the Delaware Basin where we're growing the legacy Devon Wells, we're delivering best-in-class costs for these wells, productivity that's as good as just about anybody out there, and obviously even get a little bit of advantage of a lower royalty rate on federal acreage as well. And so the economics on the Devon legacy activity are incredibly strong, probably on average, I'd say even a little bit stronger than the WPX, but the WPX is extremely strong also, and that's why we like it. But it's hard to top what you can do right here in Leonetti County. And so I'd say, again, we haven't developed any sort of combined budget, but it's They're both highly economic areas. Probably the overall edge on an average basis would probably go to the activity in Leonetti County on the legacy Devon Acreage.

And the last one, if I could just add one more, the $560 per foot, the cost that you achieved in the third quarter of 2020, do you care to hazard a forecast for where that could be in 2021 in a maintenance type scenario?

Well, you know, we have been highlighting improved performance on a cost-per-foot basis, you know, every quarter for the last couple of years. I mean, we just continue to find ways to step that down. And to your comment about hazarding a guest, frankly, it points to levels that I'm not sure I would have thought we could get to. And so I think a lot of what we're doing here, there is a bit of service cost deflation in there. But I would tell you, in my mind, probably three-fourths of the improvement that we're making here over the last quarter and the last several quarters is efficiency-driven, and so we believe that's going to be more structural. So we absolutely believe we can carry forward these levels and continue with rate of change as we move forward into 2021, and we think that's going to be a nice capital efficiency tailwind and another leg to the capital efficiency story. You know, Brian, one thing that people say, why are you doing this? How can you do this? Well, I'd say one of the big things that we have going for us is that we went, we were the first ones to go to 10,000-foot laterals in the Wolf Camp out here. And we admittedly, we had a few wells in the beginning where I'd say we stubbed our toes a little bit. They were challenging at first for us. Most of the industry was doing 7,500-foot laterals. We went to 10,000 laterals. But because we went early and we figured it out and we went with what we call a modified swimhole design, that design has turned out to be very robust and be the appropriate design that we have now stayed with for a long time. So we have many, many repetitions of drilling the same type well over and over and over, many more than I think that many of our peer companies out there with this particular design. And that just allows us to be further down on the efficiency curve. Now, are we done? We absolutely are never done. No way. But I think if there's a question, well, this almost seems too good to be true. Why are you able to do this? I'd say those are a couple of the big things, as well as allowing us to optimize our costs from our vendors when you go to that fixed design like that.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Neil Dingman with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Good morning, guys. Dave, my first question for you and Jeff has been kind of talked about a little bit, but it's really on slide 14, and you've talked a lot about your thoughts about the variable divot, but I just want to make something clear. On that slide, you talk about that the dividend can be up to 50% of excess pre-cash. I'm just wondering, when deriving that or thinking about that, how should we think about prior to that where you want the debt level? Is that once you get the debt level to a certain point and once you have growth at a certain point? I'm just wondering how I should think about that when factoring in leverage and the growth.

Well, I'll start off here, and then Jeff can chime in. So What we've said, and I'll talk about the combined Devin WPX here, pro forma, that our break-evens for maintenance capital would be $33 WTI. And frankly, with what we're talking about this morning, it looks like we're tending to drive that lower. We don't have a new number for you today, but obviously the results that we talked about today would tend to drive that break-even even lower. Then if you add the fixed dividend, that would take the break even up to 37. And we've said that we will invest at maintenance capital levels up to around $45 per share. So we would be building free cash flow in that range. Then once we get to 45, we'd mix in a combination of a little bit of growth, select growth, along with adding to the free cash flow at the same time. And by the time we get to $50 WTI, we can accomplish all of our strategic objectives of 5% growth and really strong cash flow yield. So back when we start generating free cash flow, we think we're in a healthy enough financial position that we can do a combination of debt pay down and the variable dividend. Now, obviously, we want to maintain some flexibility around how much we do to each, but we think we're in a good position on both, and so we'll make judgment calls on what we think the appropriate mixture is, but it's not like we have to get one done before we start the other. We have to have a certain level of growth before we start to fix the variable dividend policy. We anticipate once we start generating free cash flow if we see an appropriate commodity price outlook, that we will start the variable dividend policy. So, Jeff.

Yeah, that's well said, Dave. But, Neil, the short answer I would give you is we're already there. So, you know, we've got the cash balance. We feel like we have the strong balance sheet. And we've got a constructive view of the commodity price outlook, you know, that we highlighted in that step two on slide 14. So, obviously, we've seen some weakness here in prices this week, and that could certainly continue into next year. So we'll be mindful of that. But as Dave said, in our minds, with the combined company, we're already in a position to where we can deliver – cash return to the shareholders via the fixed and the variable dividend, along with accomplishing our debt reduction target over time. So we feel like we're there and in good shape. Great, great details. And then just one follow-up. Dave, you also talked a lot about, you know, I just want to make sure I'm clear on this as well, around what you term maintenance capital. You've had a lot of efficiency. It's just a lot of improvements that continue to, you know, improve what that sort of level is. You know, on a go forward, how should we, you know, I guess how do you define that these days, I guess, given all the improvements you have and, you know, how should we think about, you know, when we think about potentially maintenance capital index? How would you like us to think about it?

Well, first off, we're trying to use what I would consider more of a Webster's dictionary book definition of maintenance capital. It's not an optimized 2021 maintenance capital. In other words, we're not counting on any sort of drawdown of duck inventory in this at all. This is more of a pure how much capital capital do we think we need to spend or what price WTI do we need given the capital we need to spend in order to keep production flat without any drawdown of ducks. If we would draw down ducks, it could be even better. And so certainly as we have accomplished better capital efficiency along with the cost synergies that we're anticipating out of the merger and that that's what's allowing us to lower that maintenance capital significantly. I would anticipate that's going to continue to lower through time as we continue to achieve even greater capital efficiency, more cost efficiencies, and frankly, as Brian Singer brought up earlier, as our overall corporate decline rate decreases, becomes lower in outer years, then the amount of capital required to maintain the production should tend lower also. So what we're giving you is just kind of a definition of where it is, just slamming together the two companies. What we both defined as maintenance capital, I think it was 950 on the Devon side and the remainder on the WPX side. But again, the results we're seeing today are tending to indicate that if Even now it's going to be lower in 2021, but we're not given an exact number. Very good. Thanks for the details.

Our next question comes from Derek Whitfield with Stiefel. Your line is now open.

Thanks, and good morning, all. Morning. I appreciate your earlier comments on federal and state alignment, as election risks are certainly top of mind with investors.

Regarding the 650 permits you're expecting to have on hand at year end, do the permits comprehend any change in development approach from your current practices, including spacing, lateral length, et cetera? And as a slight build on that question, if a negative election and or regulatory outcome were to occur, could the permits be amended at a later time for longer laterals if you needed to accelerate resource conversion?

Derek, this is David Harris. Thanks for your question. Yeah, the 650 permits that we have in hand contemplate our current development strategy around the zones that we're the most focused on and that spacing, as well as giving us some flexibility for some downspacing. To your question about the transition to three-mile laterals, Just for your background, kind of the quick rule of thumb is if you've got a drilling permit in hand and you make a change, if it doesn't result in a different level of surface disturbance, you don't need to get a new permit. You go through what's called a sundry process, which is a really quick and routine process that we have. We do these from time to time when we tweak landing zones or bottom hole locations. And so that's the process that we would go through as we look for opportunities to incorporate more extra long lateral development into the programs. And certainly with not just the results we've seen in COBRA, but the results we've seen over the last couple of years across the portfolio, That's something we're actively looking at. We've drilled about 30 wells across the company that are two-and-a-half-mile laterals or longer, about half of those in the Delaware. But importantly, we've drilled them in all three of our other assets as well. So we're getting increasing reps there, as Dave alluded to, and increasing confidence in our ability to make that a meaningful part of the program go forward. And I think you'd expect to see probably a half-dozen or so three-mile wells in the Delaware next year. and upwards of 20%, 25% that are two-and-a-half-mile laterals or longer. So we think this is going to be an important part of our development approach going forward. We think there's obviously, as you saw from Cobra, a big capital efficiency pickup as we successfully execute this.

That is fantastic detail. And then as my follow-up, really more broadly on integration efforts to date, As your teams have begun to work together, are you guys sensing any areas of potential synergy beyond what's been disclosed?

I think the short answer is yes. When you get good people together and they start talking about that, and I think particularly on the capital side, we're seeing that there are going to be improvements even just from pure scale improvements. on the supply chain and what the incremental scale will provide, as well as just optimizing programs as well. So, yeah, it's still early days, but I can tell you there's a lot of excitement and enthusiasm that the synergies are not only achievable, but we're going to see more than that. So, Jeff and David, you're even closer to it than me, I think.

No, Dave, I think you hit the high points. That's exactly right. As the teams have gotten together, again, it's early days still for sure, but already started to think about specific areas across the organizations. And I think there's no doubt in our mind that we've got a lot of momentum there and should see an increase to those synergies over time in most areas.

You know, and I'll just say philosophically, I think one of the reasons that we're going to make this work so well is, it's our whole approach to this is a more of a merger of equals. And so we're, we're both sides are taking the attitude of, okay, we both done well on our own, but are there some things that we can do to create a better company that are even better than either one is individually. And it's that open-minded attitude about, and really not focusing on what I do great or my company does great. It's more about, okay, we've, How can we really create something that's better than either one of us and not worry about where it comes from, whether it's from the WPX side or the Devon side? Just how can we do better? And I think there's a lot to be said for just that mental attitude of really trying to take the best from both sides. It's going to allow even more synergies in a situation where you just have something that's just much more of a takeover and you don't learn as much from the other side as you do in this type of situation.

very helpful. All great updates.

Our next question comes from Jeffrey Campbell with Chewy Brothers. Your line is now open.

Hi, Dave. I wanted to ask a more specific WPX question and then one broader question. With regard to WPX, it's tended to invest elsewhere than in its Eddy County assets, whereas Devon has outstanding results there as illustrated on slide eight. I was wondering if you see the potential to bring some capital to WPX's Eddie acreage when the merger is complete. Yeah, we don't have a specific plan, but I mean, they have some outstanding acreage just across the state line and in an area actually called the state line area, as well as their acreage they picked up from Felix and in which Felix, we think, and they feel very much so, too, did not optimize the development plan on that. So, yeah, it's going to compete for capital very well. I did say I think maybe on average that Devon's a little bit better, but, you know, the legacy results we have are a pretty high bar to meet, and I don't know that anybody that we would look at would quite match up to that. But that doesn't mean that WPX isn't really, really good, and that's what – And frankly, we did quite a bit of study on those before WPX acquired both those positions. So we understand those positions pretty darn well. So, David, do you want to add anything? No, I think that's exactly right. Jeff, you may have been referencing some of the acreage that's further north in Eddy County that would be kind of northwest of our potato basin area. Some of that acreage is operated. Our understanding is some of it's non-operated, but that would certainly be a place as we think about acreage trades and other things that we'd be looking at potential for bringing some of this extra long lateral development approach to bear. Yeah, that was exactly what I was thinking about. I'm sorry, Jeffrey, I kind of misunderstood your question. It was good color anyway. It was fine. My broader question is, bearing in mind Devin's go-forward focus on free cash flow and considering the merger, is there any part of the portfolio that's struggling to generate free cash now? And would this be a yardstick for not only attracting capital in the future, but maybe some portfolio management longer term? Well, we have, you know, if you think about it, we have three areas that are generating really strong free cash flow right now, pro forma, that will be generating really strong free cash flow in the Bakken, the Eagleford, and the Anadarko Basin. Obviously, the biggest growth engine with 400,000 really high-quality acres in the Delaware Basin, that's going to be the biggest growth engine. And then you have the Rockies. It's more of a longer-term growth play. It's not as much of a free cash flow play right now. And it's a smaller asset, but it's a very oily basin. We know there is very good potential in the Niobrara there across probably a couple hundred thousand acres or so. And our approach right now we think is most appropriate is just take a very measured approach. We've drilled some wells there. We're learning a great deal from the wells we did about what worked extremely well and where our challenges still lie. It's probably an environment that is going to take, it's very oily up in the powder. It's going to take probably $45, $50 oil to really compete effectively for economics, but there's a lot of hydrocarbon there. So You know, it's the one that's not as strong a contributor currently, but I don't feel, you know, we'll obviously look as a combined company. Neither side has been afraid to make the right decision at the appropriate time, but there's nothing obvious because both companies have really hydrated their portfolio a lot historically, and we like the asset base, but that's obviously the stage of each of them, and we understand. We'll look at it. Great. Thanks. I appreciate that, Culler.

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