4/29/2025

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Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Ecolab first quarter 2025 earnings release conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. The question and answer session will follow today's formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please dial star zero from your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, it is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Andy Hedberg, Vice President, Investor Relations. Mr. Hedberg, you may now begin.

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Andy Hedberg

Thank you and hello everyone and welcome to Ecolab's first quarter conference call. With me today are Christoph Beck, Ecolab's chairman and CEO, and Scott Kirkland, our CFO. A discussion of our results along with our earnings release and the slides referencing the quarter results are available on Ecolab's website at ecolab.com slash investor. Please take a moment to read the cautionary statements in these materials which state that this teleconference and the associated supplemental materials include estimates of future performance. These are forward-looking statements and actual results could differ materially from those projected. Factors that could cause actual results to differ are described under the risk factor section in our most recent form 10-K and in our posted materials. We also refer you to the supplemented diluted earnings per share information in the release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Christoph Beck for his comments.

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Christoph Beck

Thank you so much, Andy, and welcome to everyone on the call today. Really pleased to share the results of another strong quarter of double-digit earnings growth, thanks to our team's focus on delivering best-in-class outcomes for our customers no matter what. This is Ecolab at its best, demonstrating the strength of our team, our proven operating model, and the breadth and health of our business. Our superior performance reflected solid 3% growth in organic sales and strong 12% growth in EPS, as we continue to significantly outpace soft-end markets. This was driven by our team's ability to achieve attractive market share gains through our One Ecolab growth initiative and increased value pricing, all supported by our focus on delivering exceptional value to our customers, as we've always done. This good top-line momentum, along with improved productivity from our investments in digital technologies, drove a 190 basis point increase in our operating income margin. And this marks another important step in executing on our objective of delivering a 20% operating income margin by 2027, as we've talked many times. Well, looking ahead, the complexity of the global operating environment is increasing, with softer end market demand and rapid changes in international trade policies. With external conditions changing, we are naturally making proactive adjustments to our near-term delivery path. But importantly, our overall expectations for earnings this year remain unchanged. At the same time, we're continuing to make smart investments in our growth engines to fuel our top line, expand our margins, and build our future. So let me spend a few minutes on each topic to share what we are seeing and explain why I believe we're well positioned to deliver strong near and long-term performance. First on demand, we saw end market trends soften a bit, particularly in the heavy industrial markets, as customer production rates in some industries have eased. We've outperformed these trends because the technologies and services we provide to our customers are absolutely critical to their operations as they leverage our latest breakthrough innovations. And additionally, we also helped them significantly reduce their total operating costs, which they need now more than ever. And this led to a very strong new business in the first quarter. Kind of a record, actually. These were broad-based wins across our businesses and markets around the world, showing that our value proposition continues to resonate with customers. With demand has stabilized over the past few weeks, we expect it to remain soft for the remainder of the year. As such, we remain on offer. fully focused on generating new business and on installing our strong existing new business pipeline to continue to outgrow our markets and, as always, to gain share. Now, regarding the rapidly changing global trade environment, we're much better positioned than most, but we're not completely immune. A robust and agile global supply chain is a true competitive advantage that sets us apart in the marketplace. And as we've demonstrated for decades, We dare for our customers when they need us the most. No matter what, we will never, ever let them down. Through our local for local model, we've strategically positioned ourselves so that more than 90% of our sales are produced close to our customers, allowing us to effectively navigate challenges like this with quite a high level of confidence. We're therefore leveraging the strength of Ecolab to mitigate the impact of the 10% global baseline tariff. However, global tariffs greater than 10% and 145% tariffs placed on China are having broader impact on the cost of some raw materials, packaging, and some equipment. Even though we don't import much from China, we expect the annualized impact from tariffs and increased local supplier costs due to higher on-shoring demand to be a few hundred million dollars. To mitigate this impact, We recently announced the 5% rate surcharge for all customers in the United States only. This surcharge leverages the tools and capabilities we built a few years ago to ensure we can reliably supply customers while also delivering value to them that exceeds the total price increase. So it's a win-win situation. So we expect the benefit from the trade surcharge to build over the coming months with full implementation beginning in third quarter. As a result, we anticipate organic sales growth in the second quarter to be similar to slightly better than the first quarter as we accelerate in the second half. While we focus on executing well to overcome the challenging near-term operating environment, we're also continuing to invest in our long-term growth engines, including life sciences, pest intelligence, global high-tech, and Ecolab Digital. Each of these engines are at different stages of development that all are performing very well with attractive long-term growth and margin potential. Life Sciences, which is now a standalone segment, grew organic sales mid-single digits and delivered organic operating income growth of more than 30%. With this, our biopharma business grew sales double digits, driving attractive share gains as we leverage our investments in breakthrough innovation, global capabilities, and capacity expansion. Further investment in this attractive business will continue to have a near-term impact on operating income margins. However, we firmly believe it positions life sciences very well to accelerate its long-term growth and deliver operating income margins close to 30%. Our pest elimination business continues its rapid deployment of pest intelligence. Ecolab's proprietary digital solution that provides real-time insight into pest activity for customers across their enterprises. This program is growing extremely fast, and we're able to deliver even better pest-free outcomes for customers with enhanced service capabilities. As mentioned during prior calls, we're investing heavily in this program, which has impacted growth and operating income growth near-term. We'll begin annualizing these initial investments pretty soon. And as a result, we expect operating income margin for this segment to get back closer to 20% in the second quarter. We expect this program to fuel continued attractive sales growth and even further margin expansion as it's deployed over the next few years. In global high-tech water, business continues to perform exceptionally well as we deploy breakthrough innovation to the significant and expanding market. Global high-tech sales growth accelerated to nearly 30% leveraging our leading innovation and global capabilities to develop water circularity for microelectronics productions, as we call FABs, and high-performance cooling for data centers. And finally, as promised, this quarter we began reporting top-line performance for Ecolab Digital. This includes lease revenue from technology hardware like 3D Tracer and software subscriptions like Water Quality Intelligence. In the first quarter, Ecolab Digital grew sales 12% to 80 million or 320 million on an annualized basis, driven by extremely strong growth in subscription revenue. We expect this growth rate to accelerate throughout the rest of the year and beyond as we expand our digital offerings across our customer base and across Ecolab businesses to capture more of this multi-billion dollar high margin growth opportunity. As these growth engines continue to scale, we expect they will increasingly impact Ecolab sales growth and operating income margins in the years to come. So in closing, we're clearly planning to win, and we're very well positioned to navigate this complex external operating environment. And I'm confident that the best of Ecolab is still ahead of us. Our unique capability to deliver innovative solutions that help our customers achieve best-in-class outcomes, enhance operational performance, and conserve natural resources like water and energy and indeed now more than ever. Our strong and resilient free cash flow combined with an extremely healthy balance sheet with over a billion in cash and a 1.8 times net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio puts us in a unique position of strength to take advantage of both organic and inorganic growth opportunities. This in turn allows us to deliver even greater value to customers and attractive returns for shareholders. I'm confident we are well positioned to deliver another strong in 2025 and beyond. So thanks again for your continued trust and investment in EGOLAB. I look forward to your question.

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Andy Hedberg

Thanks, Christophe. That concludes our formal remarks. Operator, would you please begin the question and answer period?

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Operator

Thank you. We'll now be conducting a question and answer session. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question so others will have a chance to participate. If you have additional questions, please rejoin the Q&A queue. To ask a question at this time, you may press star 1 from your telephone keypad, and a confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please for a poll for questions. Thank you, and our first question is from the line of Tim Mulroney with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

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Tim Mulroney

Hi, this is Luke McFadden on for Tim Mulrooney. Thanks for taking our questions. So I know you've talked about sourcing more than 90% of your raw materials regionally. So on the surface, it sounds like you're pretty well insulated from the trade war in any given region. But if we take, for example, the US, where you have many companies scrambling to onshore as much of their supply chains as possible and as fast as possible, is this having any kind of a second derivative impact on your domestically sourced materials? Just maybe as a follow-up, I was hoping you could just level set us on where you expect pricing to ultimately shake out in 2025 after taking into consideration the recent surcharge. Thanks.

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Christoph Beck

Hey, thank you, Luke. Good to hear you. Well, first, as you said, we're in a very fortunate situation with our local for local strategy where 92% of what we sell is produced locally. We didn't do that for tariffs. Obviously, that's something that we've built over years, mostly to secure supply to our customers, to have it at the most optimized cost, and it helped us for FX, and now it's helping us. Unfortunately, if I may say so, for tariffs. So that's a very good place to be for our customers and our company. That's also helping us to mitigate the 10% that we're kind of expected for 2025. So we feel good about the overall plan that we had for 2025. Obviously, there are the two small exceptions. If I may say, you mentioned both of them, Luke. on one hand, so China, and the move from many companies, as you said, to source in the US, which drives prices higher as well at the same time. So talking about China, we don't buy much from them because 99% of what we sell there is produced locally, but we still import roughly 100 million from China. But when you apply 145% tariff on top of the inflation on local sourcing here in the U.S. because of people's unshoring, as you mentioned, you get to some meaningful numbers, hence the nominal trade surcharge of the 5% that will be entering into effect on May 1st. So this trade surcharge will apply only in the US and the commitment that we've made to our customers is also to make sure that the value we provide to them, the incremental savings in their operations will overcome the total pricing that we are asking from them as well at the same time in a typical win-win. situation as we practice for many, many years with our customers. So ultimately, to answer your other questions as well in terms of delivered product costs, We started the year kind of market was slightly up. Our net P&L impact was slightly down because of the efficiencies that our great supply chain and procurement teams could deliver. And if I look forward, so in the quarters to come, it's probably going to be probably more towards mid single digit increase when we put everything together with everything we know now. Obviously, things can change in the weeks or months to come. And if I think about the overall pricing with the surcharge, I think we will get close to 3%, maybe better. We will see how that works. All in progressing very well. I like how the team has gotten ahead of what's happening on the market and done in a way that's a win-win for customers and for our shareholders as well at the same time.

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Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Manav Patniak with Barclays. Please receive your questions.

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Manav Patniak

Thank you. Christophe, you know, in mid-March, we had already started talking about, you know, seeing weakness in the demand environment broadly. And I was just wondering, you know, if you could give us an update since then. Have things gotten worse? Did that happen kind of in advance of what people feared? Just some flavor there and in terms of how we should think of that translating into the volume assumptions for the rest of the year.

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Christoph Beck

It's a good question, Manas. In February, so the second half of February, we saw that dip in demand, especially in the heavier industries that we're serving. And I was not sure if it would keep going down in the weeks to come. And if I look back since we talked a month plus ago, Well, it dipped, but it kind of stabilized at that lower level since then, which I take as a reasonably good news. But I don't take that as a given for the rest of the year. My assumption is that it's going to keep softening in the months to come. It's not going to be a straight line because of the events happening out there. So as a team, in a typical Ecolab fashion, it's to focus on offense, it's to play to win, it's to focus on new business. The new business in the first quarter has been very strong. It's been a real record for our whole team. So we're kind of generating our own tailwind which is why I feel confident that we should have positive volume in 2025. We see how strong that's going to come. But as far as I can see, I feel reasonably good. And this stabilization over the past few weeks is kind of an at least short-term reassuring element.

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Operator

Our next question is from the line of Ashish Subhadra with RBC Capital Markets. Please receive your question.

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spk14

Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to focus on the institutional and specialty segment. I was just wondering if you could talk about the demand trends there, what you're seeing from a foot traffic perspective, and as you continue to drive the digital solution, how you can help offset some of the weakness we might see from a foot traffic or occupancy perspective. Thanks.

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Christoph Beck

Yeah, great question Ashish, thank you. Generally, our INS business is doing really, really well. And it keeps on that trajectory, which is really encouraging. Love what this team is doing. It's about gaining shares the right way by helping our customers, well, produce more meals and serve more guests while reducing their cost of labor and energy and water and waste as well at the same time. And it's important, though, when we look at the overall number of INS, we know that we have healthcare in there now, which is reducing one percentage point The INS numbers or institutional division is growing at 5%, very steady, very strong, very good. Specialty is actually underlying growing even much faster than what we see in our reporting numbers because it was kind of the last quarter-ish of a private label business that we decided to discontinue. last year and that business is going to improve. And there is also a natural shift in more difficult economic times from full service restaurants to quick serve restaurants. So that's going to have specialty as well. So feel really good about the INS trajectory. Margins are improving nicely. It's not going to be the same improvement for every quarter coming up, but it's going to keep improving in the quarters to come as well. It's at the highest margin level it's ever been. So in a very good place, good growth, doing the right thing for customers, margins improving, and innovation in that business, that's at the strongest point it's ever been as well. So really happy with what's happening in INS, not in an easy situation.

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Operator

Our next question is from the line of John McMulty with BMO Capital Markets. Pleased to speak with your question.

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John McMulty

Yeah, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So you've been pushing the Ecolab One initiative pretty hard. I guess, can you help us to think about the growth that the business saw for those roughly 35 accounts, say, versus the core, just so we can get a better feel for the volume trends there in this kind of new big push initiative?

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Christoph Beck

Thank you, John. It's the One Ecolab initiative, actually, which you're right, is focused on growth. I'll be careful not to disclose too much numbers, but our focused accounts are progressing very well because if I remember, I'll remind you a little bit, the broader picture, one Ecolab is to increase our share of the 55 billion penetration opportunity that we have. Mostly with our corporate accounts and we started focusing on our top 35 that are doing really well. How do we approach them? It's this best in class approach. It's basically so for each of those customers understand what is their best operating unit that they have around the world in terms of product outcome, cost performance, environmental impact, and then drive that performance across their own network. We translate that, obviously, in a dollar TVD, total value delivered, and we give ourselves a few years to get there as well. That's the general approach, strategically, and OneEcoLab as a program, as a platform, enables all that for our front lines to get that done. So we're early on that journey, John. I like the progress that we're making here. Customers are very interested in that because, well, it's cool insights to know what's best in class within my company or outside my company within the industry as well. And as you know, so on the internal side, from a productivity perspective as well, OneEcoLab is improving and progressing very well. Not in terms of cost cutting, but in terms of operational performance because of AI platforms that we're using in some critical processes. We're using agents as well at the forefront as well of technology. And so far, it's working really well, which is why we are ahead as well of our savings delivery on that program. So on both fronts, growth and performance improvements, we see some very good progress.

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Operator

The next question is from the line of David Begleiter with Deutsche Bank. Please receive your question.

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David Begleiter

Thank you. Christoph, you announced a surcharge back in 2022 for energy. Can you remind us the success of that surcharge? How much did you realize versus what you announced? And would you expect a similar or higher realization on this surcharge this time around? Thank you.

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Christoph Beck

So the good news is that in 2022, that was the first time we were doing a surcharge like that. Honestly, I knew that the team would get something done. I didn't know how quick and how much we would truly get. And it worked out really well, as we all remember. Everything stuck as well, got converted into structural pricing, driven by value generated for customers as well, all in that win-win approach between customers and shareholders ultimately here. So we had this 8% surcharge back then. At the highest, it went up to 5% surcharge. Then it got converted. into structural price. So you lost track a little bit of what was the net impact of it. But it worked out very well, actually, here. So we see how it works on this one. It's the same platform. It's the same approach. It's on one country, as mentioned. So just in the US, at least for now, we'll see what happens. So it's the tariffs as well. So going forward. So it's not a perfect science, but generally it works quite well and really our objective is to mitigate obviously so that the incremental cost while driving even more savings at the customer location in order to make sure that we have something that is sustainable. So this time around, I feel quite good that that's going to work the way that it's intended.

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Operator

Our next question is from the line of Vincent Andrews with Morgan Stanley. Please receive your question.

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Vincent Andrews

Thank you. Last quarter in PEST, you had some safety issues which had a profitability or negative profitability impact to them. The comments today said that those metrics are getting back in the right direction. So I'm just curious, in the first quarter, were there still sort of adverse costs associated with that? And is there any adverse costs still expected in the guidance for the back half?

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Christoph Beck

Yeah, there were some, as I mentioned, actually, so last quarter, so it doesn't happen, obviously, on a calendar basis. But generally, the safety insurance costs are getting behind us. And as I mentioned last time, for me, that was mostly a human issue. I knew that it would be kind of short to midterm, but happy that our safety performance has improved dramatically. in pest elimination. We've installed in most vehicles now, so dashcans that are looking at where the vehicles are going and how is the driver behaving as well. We reduced dramatically our safety incidents by doing so, so much so that we are leveraging all those best practices for other businesses, all our folks that are on the road, as you know. So we have close to 30,000 people on the road generally. So as unfortunate and sad as it was for BEST, I think that we're getting this one under control. At the same time, we can leverage all what we've learned across the company. It's going to take time because that's practical work, obviously, to get them. So that's moving progressively behind us. At the same time, We are shifting towards best intelligence, which is this remote monitoring of devices, mousetraps, for a different word, obviously. That's quite a heavy lift for our team. We've completed one of the major retailers with it as well, with very good results, with much more pest-free environment. at the lower cost, which is a really good proposition. But all in, obviously, it's work and it takes time. That has an impact slightly on growth and our margins. But generally, I'm really happy with that business, with the leadership team, with the mindset we have on that team. The best days of best elimination are ahead of us. And as you will see, Q2 margins are going to improve quite substantially, as I mentioned in my remarks as well at the beginning. So overall, a very good story that keeps getting better.

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Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Patrick Cunningham with Citi. Please receive your question.

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Patrick Cunningham

Hi, good afternoon. Very helpful disclosure on the digital sales. You mentioned an accelerating growth rate know throughout the year and over the coming years you know what what sort of growth rates and margin accretion are you anticipating and can you unpack this anticipated growth between software subscriptions versus hardware sales yeah so a few questions uh patrick so in your question here so we're going to learn together um obviously as we we keep

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Christoph Beck

on that. So we're not disclosing margin of that yet because we need to do it the right way. There's a lot of accounting practices that we need to get right, obviously, for that. We're going to get there as soon as we're ready to do it. But as you can imagine, it's very high because you have almost no, obviously, materials related to it at all. digital. To your question on hardware versus software, hardware needs to be installed because it's AI dish machines, it's pest intelligence devices, 3D trays and so on. So that grows nicely, but at a much lower growth rate than software, which is, as it's called, software. So we don't need to install anything except on a computer getting the right connection and monetizing the subscription as we progress. So as you know, most of what we do in digital today, well, has been done for a few years or many years for free. uh and as we upgrade technology software and consumption models as well so we charge um slightly um for it as well to do it in a smart way for our customers always driven by generating more value than what we're charging that's the eroi approach from the company but When you think about it, we have a hundred thousand devices that are connected today. We have over a million customer locations with a lot of devices that we could connect in each of them. And most of them are not being monetized, which is what drives me towards clearly knowing that we will be building a multi-billion business. Through Ecolab Digital, we're in the early innings of that journey. So the fact that we have over 300 million already growing double digit and accelerating in the quarters to come as well, which is showing a little bit the potential of that growth opportunity that we have here, which I think is going to be significant in the midterms.

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Operator

Our next question is from the line of Chris Parkinson with Wolf Research. Please receive your question.

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Chris

Good afternoon. Chris, you hit on a few of your growth engines, but when you cross over pest elimination, light water with data center, as well as the green shoots for the recovery in life sciences and biopharma, in the intermediate term, what are you the most enthusiastic about? And are there any of those three that you think you're going to further evolve your go-to-market strategy to further solidify yourself as kind of the go-to in any of those substrates? Thank you.

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Christoph Beck

Thanks, Chris. I love and hate that question because you're asking me which kit I love the most. That's a bit of a hard one. They're all very well positioned, but if I have to pick one, it would be data centers cooling. where we have not only a huge opportunity, but the right to win as well here. We have cooling expertise that no one else has. We have fluid monitoring capabilities that no one else has as well at the same time. So we're bringing the three components of data center cooling so nicely together between cooling tower, CDUs, so coolant distribution units, And we're producing those as we speak. And third, so the access to the chip as well, while you monitor through 3D trace on the overall data center. So when I look at the number of data centers we have out there, the growth of data center construction as well, the fact that chips used to be changed every three years, now it's getting closer to every six months. especially if they are direct-to-chief crews as well at the same time. Well, there's a lot of work and there's a lot of operating service that we need to provide as well. I love that business, the way we're building it with the tech, high-tech companies as well at the same time. Early on that journey, but in a great position. We're growing really fast, great margins, and it's going to be really big going forward.

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Operator

The next question comes from the line of Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stiefel. Please receive your question. Hi, thank you very much.

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Shlomo Rosenbaum

Just, Christoph, can you talk a little bit about PEST and when you expected to get growth to accelerate back to what we've been seeing, kind of the upper single-digit range? You talked about the margin getting better next quarter, but I want to ask a little bit about the revenue growth and then No, it's a two-parter. You just wanted one, but you mentioned something about agentic AI and using that. If you don't mind expanding on exactly where you're using that within the company. Thank you.

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Christoph Beck

Thank you so much. I'm going to pass the second question on agentic to Scott, who is becoming an expert in that area by today. Maybe first on pest elimination. First, we're growing 5%, which is kind of a good problem to have to your point. So we want to see that business. So get back to the high single type of growth pattern as well. I feel really good in getting towards that probably sometime during the second half of the year and certainly so in 26 and beyond because we are building so the most advanced best elimination platform that's out there we have all the capabilities all the cloud platform all the ai capabilities we have 1500 people so that are working on digital technology in our company well it's hard to beat obviously so in our industry so not where I'd like to be so with the 5% new today the team doesn't like it either but we know why we dare it's because of all the transformation work that we're doing but we know as well at the same time that that transformation work while he's going to pay dividends going forward so getting at the higher growth rate sometime in the second half of the year I would say is a good expectation Maybe Scott, on agentic, on OneEcolab?

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Scott

Yeah, absolutely, Shlomo. Yeah, as Christoph said, we're using the agentic solutions, developing those in OneEcolab, but starting with building a foundation that we'll be able to use across the enterprise. But within OneEcolab, because it's very focused on the customers and the field, that's the processes that we're starting with, the processes close to the customers and closest to the sales team. So think lead-to-cash processes. and looking at those initial use cases. And as we build those, we'll be able to build off into other end-to-end processes.

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Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Roberts with Mizuho. Please proceed with your question.

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John Roberts

Thank you. Your dispensing equipment, whether it's a dishwasher or a 3D tracer machine, is bundled into your pricing. Is the surcharge primarily around covering the cost related to the dispensing equipment?

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Christoph Beck

No, John, that's one component because some of it comes from China, but we have also chemistry that's coming from China. We have packaging that's sometimes coming from China. So it's pretty broad based. But as mentioned, John, we're talking about 100 million that we're importing from China. So for a 16 billion company, it's not exactly huge. But when you add 145% surcharge tariff on that, obviously, you get too many full number. And then you have everybody else that is localizing sourcing of everything they buy in the US right now, which is driving purchasing cost as well, which is a derivative from what's happening between U.S. and China. And that's across the board. It's not just an equipment and dispensing technology. But we're talking about manageable numbers here, which is why I feel pretty good about how we can mitigate that and to do that in a way that's good for customers as well.

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Operator

Our next question is from the line of Steve Byrne with Bank of America. Please receive your question. Mr. Byrne, you're live for questions.

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Steve Byrne

Sorry about that. Just another couple questions on the surcharge. Is there any particular linkage in this, like it's not a natural gas or like your prior one? Is there the potential that it could be reversed if there was some resolution in tariffs? And or do you think you could convert this into more of a structural price increase rather quickly? And just one more comment, Christoph, you mentioned that you demonstrate Steve DeRoy- value in your price increases, do you do you have to generate or demonstrate an incremental 5% value to your customers associated with this surcharge.

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Christoph Beck

Steve DeRoy- yeah so Steve a few elements to unpack your your question here so first on the value piece. This is what we call total value delivered, which we document and align and agree with customers. We've done that for years. So this is a very well-practiced process on how much we have them save in operating costs, in product improvements, and in environmental impact as well. And in many cases, we even measure that on a real-time basis through connected chemistry to the Ecolab 3D cloud. So this is something we know extremely well how to do. And we sit together with customer when we look at a price increase like the trade surcharge, 5% is nominal. It's not a big number. And usually, we're between 1% to 3% of their total cost as well in their operation. So we're talking about fairly small numbers for the customers, but still we take it very seriously and we want to make sure that for the customer it's a win-win. So a practice that we know very well how to do. The second on tariffs going away, well, I'm not going to make personal comments on that, but I don't think that it's going to disappear. The 10% of baseline is here to stay. We haven't heard what's happening as well with Europe, especially in other countries as well around the world. Well, it's going to be zero. We know that as well. And as mentioned before, so the tariff from China is on kind of almost every product coming from there with a few exceptions. But for us, it's mostly all products. and the onslaught impact of people unshoring in the us is pretty broad based as well at the same time so it's kind of an overall tide it's not individual raw materials or packaging or equipment out there in a way makes it easier to manage than just a few as well here because at the end of the day well we can mitigate that with a nominal surcharge as we're going to do so on may 1st and the last Part of your question, shifting trade surcharge into structural price, that's exactly what we did with the energy surcharge, which was much higher, as mentioned earlier as well, so a few years back. We know how to do it. We've demonstrated we can do it. We've had, as well, a relationship with customers while we did it as well. Our approach is to make sure it ends up in structural price as quickly as we can, but this is not the perfect science. It depends on the customer, the industry, the situation, but that's the ultimate goal.

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Operator

The next question is from the line of Mike Harrison with Seaport Research. Please receive your question.

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Mike Harrison

Hi, good afternoon. I have kind of a higher-level question here associated with the guidance. So you maintained your full-year EPS guidance, but if I look at what's happened with the dollar, FX has really swung from being a headwind when you initially issued this guidance a few months ago to being a tailwind probably in the rest of the year. So should we think of the guidance and maintaining guidance as some FX tailwind or FX good guys offset by lower underlying market expectations? Or have your underlying market expectations not really changed that much, and maybe the currency is something that could potentially give you upside in the rest of the year? Thank you.

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Christoph Beck

I'll let Scott make a few comments here. But what I'd say is that we will deliver the same promise, the same expectations, the quarter by quarter and for the full year. But the path to get there has been different. We've seen it in the first quarter and will be different in the quarters to come, depending on what we know, as we've been discussing. So on that goal and what we don't know that we'll have. So to trigger new actions as well. So in the months to come. So same delivery, different path. The effects component is is one of them, but it's a complicated equation. This is not the name of the game. It's one of the many drivers that we have or can deal with. Scott, any comment on that?

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Scott

Yeah, sure, Mike. As Christophe said, there's a lot of variables, very dynamic environment specific to the effects in Q1 as we expected. That was the headwind as we disclose about 4% to EPS and although More recently, FX has improved. It's a volatile, dynamic environment, and so we're going in this with a very clear view and believe that FX is still going to be a headwind for the full year, although maybe a bit better than we originally expected.

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Operator

Our next question is from the line of Jeff Tsakakis with JPMorgan. Please receive your question.

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Jeff Tsakakis

Thanks very much. I think I have a two-part question. Your global water business year over year was down a little bit in operating income in the quarter. Why was that? Revenues grew year over year. I think you had positive pricing. Secondly, when you look at the water business, a lot of the water business is propylene derivatives. And maybe propylene derivatives are down 20% year over year. Chlorine is down. Ethylene is down. Oil is down. And if you look at your cost of goods sold, your cost of goods sold overall is down 3%. When you go to your customers and you say that you want a surcharge, do they resist at all or do they feel that it's amply justified in the current environment?

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Christoph Beck

So, Jeff, two different questions here, again, for the price of one. So the first one, so the water OI or breaking income for the first quarter, the simple answer is it was year up. And it was because of last year, we had a 200% increase in operating income in Europe in 2024. So it's a year-on-year comparison on Europe. That's the single story. Otherwise, a very good story. And you'll see that in the second quarter and going forward as well in water. So feel good about that. The second part of your question, Our DPC market, everything we buy, Jeff, the 10,000 raw materials and packaging that we're buying out there, well, they're up. They're not down. So when we look at everything together, if you look at all the indices, our basket is up. Then you have our procurement team doing great work. We've been reducing as well our operating expenses or improve our operating performance in the plant as well around the world. And then you end up on a DPC, Delivered Product Cost Net Net, that is 1% to 2% better than it was a year ago. Well, that's going to change, and it's changing right now. We see it as well for all the reasons I mentioned on that call, being import from China, being the onslaught here on the U.S. market as well, which is why I expect DPC, and it is trending right now, so towards low single up to mid single up in the months to come. This is clearly sort of trajectory that we're seeing right now. So this is what we're discussing as well with customers. And I remind you that the core discussion we have with our customers is not on the cost side, is really how much can we help them improve their operating. performance as well at the same time. This is real time. This is documented. This is aligned with customers. This is approved with customers. This is not just Ecolab. So coming up with what we believe we saved with them is what we believe we've saved together. And that needs to be in their P&L as well at the same time. That's the whole discussion that we have with them. This is not new, but it contains part of the input cost, but the whole discussion is related to value.

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Operator

Our next question is in the line of Lawrence Alexander with Jefferies. Please receive your question. So good afternoon.

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Lawrence Alexander

Could you speak a little bit about how a shift in the U.S. to aggressive deregulation would either create opportunities or headwinds for your institutional and pest businesses on a secular basis?

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Christoph Beck

Well, the short answer here is we haven't seen anything yet in terms of impact of deregulation on any business. I hope we're going to see that because this is a very important element of focus that we expect from the industry and that's been promised by the administration as well at the same time. This is something that we should see as well in our downstream business. Well, this is hard to see right now. So we remain hopeful that that's going to help industry in the U.S. in the month and quarter to come. But so far, we haven't seen any positive sign in the numbers.

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Operator

The next question comes from the line of Jason Haas with Wells Fargo. Please use your question.

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Vincent Andrews

Hey, good afternoon and thanks for taking my question. I was curious if you could talk about what trends you're seeing in the life sciences segment and if you expect that growth to accelerate through this year. Thanks.

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Christoph Beck

Yes, Jason. We've been building that business for a few years. We've been growing not as fast as we were hoping. Obviously, early on when we acquired Pure Light, especially at the end of 2021, The competition was down double digits. We were up single digits. We kind of felt good about our delivery, but not as good as we were hoping for as we were gaining share, innovating, building capabilities, which means getting the right expertise on our team, building capacity as well in terms of manufacturing capacity with the highest levels of quality as well. That takes time to get done, obviously, unlike a lot what the team has done over the last three years. We see now that business turning up in very nice ways as well. I think we're getting to the place we were expecting at some point. The market is turning a bit better, that helps. Our business is doing even better for all the reasons I mentioned before as well. We keep investing as you see the operating income margin that we have in the business are kind of reported in the mid-teens. If you look at underlying, so if you strip out the early investment, it's more in the mid-20s. So that's why I feel pretty good about that business. keeping accelerating its top line and getting to an operating income that's getting closer to 30% as we've been targeting early on and as I've shared with you as well, and that's been the case during Investor Day as well.

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Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Josh Spector with UBS. Please receive your question.

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Josh Spector

Yeah, hi, good afternoon. I had a question just on SG&A. You've done a good job controlling that and you actually brought it down in the quarter. I guess I thought the SG&A as a percentage of sales would decline over time as you grew SG&A slower than sales, but you actually brought that down. So I was curious, one, what do you expect SG&A dollars to grow or decline for this year? And then two, Are you pulling any additional levers with SG&A already to help achieve your goals for this year? Thanks.

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Christoph Beck

Thank you, Josh. I'm going to pass that question to Scott, who has become a PhD in SG&A management.

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Scott

Thanks for the question, Josh. As Christoph mentioned before, the Q1 SG&A was a bit better than we had expected coming into the quarter. and really helped by the OneEcoLab program, which is going very well. And that helped deliver that 30 basis point of leverage that we had year over year. And that was net of what we talked about coming into the year, the continued growth investments that we'd be making. And we expect to continue that as we did the last few years. If you think back to, we had 2017, we were at a 29% ratio, and we brought that down to 27% last year. And continue to expect, as we've guided earlier, that we will deliver on this 20 to 30 basis points for the full year, probably at the lower end of that range, as we continue to make these growth investments, but also deliver on the incremental savings from OneEcoLab that is going quite well. Although I will say not every quarter will be created equal. And then as we go long term, we expect with the OneEcoLab program, with the digital capabilities to be able to deliver F&A leverage beyond our historical 20 to 30 basis points annually.

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Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kevin McCarthy with Vertical Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

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Kevin McCarthy

Yes, thank you and good morning. I'm curious, Christoph, as to whether or not your thoughts on capital deployment have changed at all with the external environment being so volatile, still early in earnings season, but we've seen some other chemical companies throttle back on CapEx. Are you still tracking towards 7% of sales there, and might you be any more aggressive or conservative in evaluating M&A opportunities, for example?

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Christoph Beck

Well, the headline here, Kevin, is no change, but I'd like to ask Scott to add some details and covers to that as well.

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Scott

Yeah, Kevin, good morning. Yeah, as Christoph said, no change to the long-term capital allocation priorities. As we've always said, we're going to continue to increase the dividend, invest in the business, And the balance sheet is in a really, really healthy position entering the year as we've talked. Net leverage, Christoph mentioned, is opening. It's down to 1.8%, so below our long-term target of around two times. We also repurchased about 140 million of shares. You probably saw it disclosed in the first quarter. That was on top of the 1 billion we did last year. And again, all buybacks in the future are going to be dependent upon those investment opportunities, including the M&A pipeline, which is very robust. But the biggest thing is this strong balance sheet provides us a lot of optionality, particularly in an environment like this, to take advantage of both organic and inorganic opportunities to invest.

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Christoph Beck

To add to that, it's a moment where we need to play to win. With the environment that we are in, with the capabilities we have, with the momentum we have, the balance sheet we have, as mentioned by Scott, for me, it's time to gain share. It's time to innovate. It's time to invest in the business in our future, and that's exactly what we're doing.

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Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Andy Whitten with Robert W. Baird. Please receive your questions.

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Andy Whitten

Yeah, great. Thanks for taking my question. I guess I have two questions here. Christoph, in your answer previously on the life sciences segment, you talked about how, like, you still see a view towards 30% segment margins there, and that underlying the investments that you've made in the, I think, in the physical plant there, the capital base for that business, I mean, you're running in the mid-20s, so Solace is suggestive of you just kind of need some operating leverage to run through that business So the question, I guess, on this one is, what do you think the approximate revenue level needs to be in life sciences to deliver something on that order of magnitude? Obviously, we're not looking for specifically, but just trying to see what you're thinking it takes to achieve that level of margin. And then my second question would be a quick one for Scott, just talking about the free cash flow outlook. Obviously, the first quarter comp from last year on free cash flow is a really tough comp this quarter. feels more seasonally normal. But I'm just wondering if you feel like the inventory cycle, given the tariffs and the trade risks that are out there, do you need to infuse more working capital into the business this year to be able to deliver certainty of supply for your customers? Or do you still think that your normal cash flow targets as a percentage of net income apply here in 2025? Thanks.

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Christoph Beck

Thank you, Andy. So I'll let Scott answer the second product question first, and then I'll talk about life science.

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Scott

Yeah, Andy, as you said, our Q1, although year over year was down, the Q1 was in line with our expectations and our historical progression, sort of the quarterly progression throughout the year. The Q1 was really comparing to a very strong comp last year, which was unusually high just due to timing of cash payments, but feel very good about with this strong earnings growth of 12 to 15 to be able to deliver our free cash flow conversion of this 90%, which is that we guided for the year.

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Christoph Beck

So that's the second part of the question. The first part, obviously very different on life science. So the investments that we're making are long-term investments. The plant extension in the UK on biotech, it's building a new one in the US, it's building a new one in Asia as well. So those are long-term investments. It's also deploying EBS, our SAP platform, as well in there. It's also building our research muscle as well at the same time. Those are all long-term investments that we have here. We know exactly what we're doing, what's the impact on the P&L as well. That's why I can tell you kind of this reported and underlying in the mid-20s So I think it's going to take a few years to get to the levels that we've talked about, depending as well on how the market is evolving. But we're building this business, so for the long run, So if it takes us a couple of years to get to the steady state high level place that we need or want to be, that that's okay with me as well, because we want to do it the right way for the long run.

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Operator

Our next question is from the line of Andre Costanza with Berenberg. Please receive your question.

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Berenberg

Hey, hello. I wanted to ask how important is early stage research for your life science business? Do you expect this business may be impacted by cuts in the federal budget and subsidies? Thank you.

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Christoph Beck

So good question. It's one of the open items out there. We don't exactly know how it's going to be. so far seems to be impacting mostly the generics. That's not exactly where we're focusing our attention. And we're serving customers globally in life science. So if it's being produced in Europe or in Asia today and it's moving to the US, well, we're going to benefit when it's coming here in the US. And if it's moving elsewhere around the world, well, we're going to follow them there as well at the same time. So not too worried about what we're seeing right now. If there are more brutal changes, we'll revisit. But that's the world we're living in. We're fine with it. We are just as we always do. But so far, I feel really good about our life sciences business, whatever happens in the market out there. So generally one way to summarize the whole discussion here is while we're delivering as expecting in 2025, we expect to deliver as expected in the quarters to come and for the full year. But what's important to keep in mind is the path to get there is evolving because we try to stay ahead. uh of what's happening in the world but really with that spirit of playing to win uh as an organization staying on offense investing where it makes sense supporting our teams and developing our teams so feel good um in a difficult world about where we are and where we're going and i think that it's in time like these that we make ecolab even stronger and our future um even better so not easy but a very good journey and a very good story so far.

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Operator

Thank you. Mr. Hedberg, there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to you for closing remarks.

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Andy Hedberg

Thank you. That wraps up our first quarter conference call. This conference call and the associated discussion slides will be made available for replay on our website. Thank you for your time and participation and hope everyone has a great rest of your day.

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, today's conference has concluded. You may now disconnect your lines at this time. Have a wonderful day.

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