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spk20: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to Anthem's second quarter earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session where participants are encouraged to present a single question. If you wish to ask a question, please press star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a prompt that you have been queued. You may withdraw your question at any time by pressing star then two. These instructions will be repeated prior to the question and answer portion of this call. As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to the company's management. Please go ahead.
spk08: Good morning, and welcome to Elevance Health's second quarter 2022 earnings call. This is Steve Tunnell, Vice President of Investor Relations, and with us this morning on the earnings call are Gail Boudreau, President and CEO, John Golina, our CFO, Peter Haitayan, President of Carillon, Morgan Kendrick, President of our Commercial and Specialty Business Division, and Felicia Norwood, President of our Government Business Division. Gail will begin the call with a brief discussion of the quarter and recent progress against our strategic initiatives. John will then discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail. After our prepared remarks, the team will be available for Q&A. During the call, we will reference certain non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures are available on our website, ElevanceHealth.com. We will also be making some forward-looking statements on this call. Listeners are cautioned that these statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, many of which are difficult to predict and generally beyond the control of Elevance Health. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. We advise listeners to carefully review the risk factors discussed in today's press release and in our quarterly findings at the SEC. I will now turn the call over to Gail.
spk21: Thanks, Steve, and good morning, everyone. Today, we're pleased to share that Elevance Health delivered another strong quarter. In the second quarter, GAAP earnings per share was $6.79, and we grew adjusted earnings per share over 14% to $8.04. Based on our results in the first half of the year and the momentum in our business, we've increased our full year adjusted earnings guidance to greater than $28.70 per share, representing growth of at least 13.9% off of the adjusted baseline we provided at the beginning of the year. Before we discuss the quarter in more detail, I want to spend a moment on our recent name change and rebranding strategy. We officially changed our holding company name to Elevance Health on June 28th, having secured shareholder approval in May and are now trading under the new ticker symbol ELV. This marks the culmination of a multi-year journey in which we have transformed from a traditional health insurance company to a lifetime trusted health partner, addressing the physical, behavioral, and social drivers that we know are critical to achieving optimal health. Elevance Health captures the fact that we are now much more than a health insurance company and reinforces our commitment to elevating the importance of whole health and advancing health beyond healthcare for our consumers, their families, and communities. Last month, we also announced the launch of our new healthcare services brand, Carillon, and the health plan brand, WellPoint, which join the company's family of brands that include Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield. Our simplified brand architecture will streamline our brand portfolio, reduce complexities, and reinforce our evolution as an organization delivering solutions beyond health insurance. Grounded in our mission and fueled by our bold and ambitious purpose to improve the health of humanity, Elevance Health reflects our position as a health leader. Strong growth in all of our businesses continued in the second quarter, demonstrating that our employer, consumer, and state partners are universally looking for whole health solutions that address underlying drivers of cost while enhancing the consumer experience. Our strategies and investments in these areas are propelling strong organic membership growth in addition to creating opportunities to scale our services division. Medical membership grew 6% year over year to 47.1 million members. maintaining Elevance Health's position as the largest insurer by U.S. medical membership. Over the past year, we've added more than 2.7 million net new members, including over 1.5 million net new government members and nearly 1.2 million net new commercial members. In Medicaid, the ongoing suspension of eligibility redeterminations and our industry-leading RFP win rate continues to drive organic growth, which we continue to supplement through programmatic health plan acquisitions consistent with our strategy. In the second quarter, we closed the acquisition of Integra Managed Care, a Medicaid plan in New York focused on patients in need of long-term support services to help them live in their homes and communities. We're excited to welcome the Integra team to the Elevance Health family. Their commitment to patients with complex and chronic needs is well aligned with our focus on serving the needs of the people who need us most. In Medicare Advantage, personalized health solutions are resonating with seniors, notably dual eligible members with complex and chronic needs, and our supplemental benefits, which emphasize social drivers of health, supporting members with in-home support, transportation needs, healthy groceries, assistive devices, and more continue to gain traction. We remain on track to produce double-digit organic growth in our individual MA business, led by growth in duals, and are excited about our plans for 2023. In the employer market, our share gains are being driven by our leading cost-to-care position and innovative solutions focused on consumer experience and engagement. Employers have come to expect more, and we're investing to meet their needs. Today, we have strong traction in our Total Health Connections suite of advocacy solutions that serves 3.9 million members, representing a 33% year-over-year increase. The programs guide members to the next step in care through a simple, intuitive, and personalized experience. We leverage real-time data analytics to identify health risks so their advocates can personally connect with members to proactively facilitate preventive and at times responsive care. Our commitment to whole health solutions extends to our care providers where we continue to advance value-based care and are increasingly looking to integrate health equity and social drivers of health measures into our contracts. The early indicators we are seeing in commercial Medicare and Medicaid businesses demonstrate that value-based care delivers higher quality care and greater affordability. In fact, our value-based providers are helping us achieve significantly higher quality scores for impacted plans, including an eight-point improvement in quality compliance measures for commercial members and value-based arrangements. In addition, Our value-based provider partners are conducting 12% more annual wellness visits with our members on average and delivering lower overall costs for our commercial, Medicare Advantage, and Medicaid members, with 19% lower emergency cases per thousand for members in value-based arrangements compared to those not, and 15% lower inpatient admissions. With the highest local concentration of membership of any health insurer, We're taking a market-by-market approach to our provider strategy to accelerate value-based care. Our local market density is unique and a valuable strategic advantage that provides optionality, allowing us to balance partnerships and investments in certain care models and geographies with select ownership through Carillon in markets where we see opportunity. We do not believe a single primary care model will prove superior for all populations and markets over time. And we are committed to a thoughtful approach that considers the structure of care delivery in our local markets and our membership density across lines of business, notably with respect to complex and chronic members. With our deep roots in our communities, we're continuing to leverage our proprietary Whole Health Index. a dynamic model tracking the health of our communities across local, social, and clinical drivers. We're increasingly using the tool to measure our impact on the health of our communities and to identify and better address local, social, and physical drivers of health with an emphasis on health equity and members who need us most. We've leveraged the tool to identify at-risk or equity-challenged member populations across Medicare, dual special needs plans, Medicaid, and our commercial exchange-based populations. And we're working with community-based partners to coordinate engagement, outreach, and support, bridging physical, behavioral, and social services. In practice, we're reimagining the ecosystem of care delivery for our most vulnerable members. with plans to scale learnings for even greater member impact and care coordination over time. We're privileged to be in a position to positively impact our members' lives, especially in light of the challenges faced since the beginning of the pandemic. In addition to helping us achieve our purpose as an organization to improve the health of humanity, we're confident that our efforts are being recognized through our industry-leading Medicaid RFP track record. Core to our enterprise-wide focus on whole health, we also continue to accelerate our service and capabilities business through Carillon to connect people to accessible, affordable, and integrated care with focus on those with complex needs. The top priority for Carillon today is to work in concert with our health plans to develop offerings that drive differentiated value for the 47 million medical members we serve, including more than 20 million fully insured members and the more than 118 million consumers we support across Elevance Health. Partnering with owned and aligned providers, our near-term focus is driving greater affordability and quality outcomes. by providing the right care in the right settings, such as enabling care in the home or more effectively managing specialty pharmacy. As an example, MyNexus, with its deep experience in managing home-based care, recently launched a new post-acute care product serving our Medicare health plan in Indiana via a capitated risk-sharing arrangement. Enabling providers with better technology and tools MyNexus will help optimize appropriate levels of care post-inpatient discharge, delivering a much better patient and provider experience while having a positive impact on our health plans and driving growth for Carillon. Over the next six to 12 months, we expect to scale the post-acute care product to all of Elements Health's Medicare markets. For more than 30 years, we've been recognized as a leader in behavioral health management An area that is a major driver of healthcare costs today and a critical component of whole person health. We manage behavioral health benefits inside a carillon for more than 40 million consumers and our expertise in the space was reinforced recently when beacon a carillon company. was awarded a contract to participate in the operation of the new 988 national suicide prevention lifeline. The launch of 988 is a game-changing shift in how mental health services are accessed in our country, and we're proud to be part of this historic milestone. Guided by our enterprise strategy, we are fueled by a passion for making a positive difference in the world. In fact, environmental, social, and governance frameworks are integral to our enterprise strategy, and we understand the connection to long-term business success. Accordingly, we continue to invest in key areas such as health equity, greenhouse gas mitigation, and community health as part of our ESG practices. We're also proud to be an initial signatory to the Healthcare Sector Climate Pledge focused on achieving net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. We are confident in our organization's ability to adapt and to achieve our pledge having met our goal of powering all of our operations with 100% renewable electricity earlier this year, four years ahead of schedule. We're proud that these efforts have been recognized externally. Elevance Health was recently named to Points of Light's 2022 list of the Civic 50, a national standard for corporate citizenship. Just 100 ranked our organization first among healthcare providers for just business behavior, and we are the highest rated managed healthcare company by ISS and Sustainalytics, including a perfect quality score from ISS. In closing, I'd like to thank our nearly 100,000 associates for the important work they do every day on behalf of the members we are privileged to serve Our passion to improve lives and communities is unwavering, and we look forward to making a meaningful difference as Ellevans Health. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to John for more on our operating results. John?
spk19: Thank you, Gail, and good morning to everyone on the line. Earlier this morning, we reported second quarter results, including gap earnings per share of $6.79 and adjusted earnings per share of $8.04, reflecting growth of more than 14% year over year. We were pleased to deliver another quarter of double-digit growth in revenue, operating income, and adjusted earnings per share, driven by the disciplined execution of our strategy. Our results exceeded our expectations And with momentum in all of our businesses and confidence in our growth trajectory, we have increased our full year earnings per share outlook. We ended the second quarter with 47.1 million members, up 2.7 million or 6.1% year over year, including growth of 276,000 members in the second quarter. We grew enrollment year over year in each of our benefit businesses, with approximately 90% of our membership growth being organic, supplemented by the acquisitions of the Paramount and Integra health plans, which added 255,000 members and 43,000 Medicaid members in the first and second quarters of this year. And together, strengthened our footprint in two attractive existing markets. Second quarter operating revenue of $38.5 billion increased $5.2 billion, or approximately 16% over the prior year quarter, with strong growth in each of our businesses. We earned higher premium revenue driven by membership growth in Medicaid, Medicare, and commercial, premium rate increases to cover overall cost trends, the acquisitions of Paramount and Integra, and the timing of the MMM acquisition, which closed at the end of the second quarter in the prior year. Our services businesses, Carillon and IngenioRx, produced very strong growth. IngenioRx revenue grew 14% year over year. while the other segment revenue, comprised primarily of Caroline, grew operating revenue 31%. The strong performance in our services businesses is being driven by the disciplined execution of our strategy to work side by side with our health plans to scale services that drive differentiated value for consumers, beginning with the more than 47 million medical members which includes the more than 20 million that are fully insured for whom we can more quickly roll out new capabilities. Beyond helping to improve our members' lives and reducing healthcare costs across the system, the growth of Carillon and IngeniRx are aiding diversification of Elevance Health's businesses in producing cash flow in non-insurance and therefore non-regulated entities. Revenue eliminated in consolidation, a proxy for business between Caroline and IngeniorX in our own risk-based health plans, grew 24% year-over-year in the second quarter and represented 21.8% of the consolidated benefit expense, up from 20.5% a year ago. The consolidated benefit expense ratio for the second quarter was 87%. An increase of 20 basis points over the second quarter of 2021 driven primarily by the shift in mix of business towards government programs which carry higher medical loss ratios relative to the commercial business. The overall medical cost structure across our insurance businesses remains higher than what we consider to be a normalized level had the pandemic never happened. with commercial furthest above, Medicare near normal cost levels, and Medicaid still somewhat below. However, medical costs in the quarter were slightly favorable to our expectations. We expect the cost structure of our health plans to remain somewhat elevated in the back half of the year, which is reflected in our guidance. Elevance Health's SG&A ratio in the second quarter was 11.1% on a GAAP basis, a decrease of 40 basis points over the prior year quarter. The decrease was driven by expense leverage associated with strong growth in operating revenue, partially offset by higher investments to support our growth. Second quarter operating cash flow was $2.5 billion, or 1.5 times net income, which includes the impact of higher working capital in relation to certain provider pass-through payments in one of our Medicaid states that we anticipate will be paid in the third quarter of this year. As a reminder, we also continue to expect to pay $500 million, which is our share of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association's litigation settlement. Turning to our balance sheet, We ended the second quarter with a debt-to-capital ratio of 39.7 percent, in line with our expectations and consistent with our target range. During the quarter, we repurchased approximately 1.3 million shares of common stock for $624 million. Year-to-date, we've been opportunistic with respect to share repurchases during periods of volatility in our stock, and have already repurchased 2.5 million shares for $1.2 billion. Our full-year outlook of $1.5 billion is, however, still an appropriate figure for full-year modeling purposes. We continue to maintain a prudent posture with respect to reserves. Days and claims payable stood at 47.8 days at the end of the second quarter, an increase of 0.9 days sequentially and a decrease of 0.3 days year over year. DCPs would have been 46 days, excluding the timing of certain provider pass-through payments that we will anticipate in the third quarter of this year. As a reminder, DCPs were elevated by 1.6 days in the second quarter last year due to the timing of acquisitions. Normalizing for timing-related impacts DCPs are very consistent on a year-over-year basis. Given stronger-than-expected performance year-to-date and the continued momentum in each of our businesses, we are increasing our full-year earnings outlook. We now expect adjusted earnings per share to be greater than $28.70, implying growth of approximately 14% off of the adjusted baseline of $25.20 provided at the beginning of the year. In closing, we are pleased to have delivered another strong quarter. Our first reported is Elevance Health. In my 28 years with the company, this is easily the most prepared and well-balanced our enterprise has been as we look into the future. Strong underlying fundamentals coupled with our balanced and diverse set of businesses gives me confidence in our ability to deliver another strong year of growth in 2022, regardless of how the macroeconomic environment evolves. The diversification of our enterprise and the resilience that provides is an extremely valuable asset. Consider that in 2021, operating revenue of our commercial and specialty businesses represented just 25% of our total gross operating revenue, down from nearly 70% in 2008. And for the first time last year, operating earnings in our government business exceeded operating earnings in our commercial business. It is no coincidence that we have produced strong growth for our enterprise in both good and bad times for the broader economy in recent years. Simply put, we are well prepared to meet the needs of our clients should they evolve in response to a more challenged business environment. Today, the momentum in each of our businesses, driven by the disciplined execution of our strategy, coupled with the diversity of our businesses, positions us uniquely well. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
spk20: Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. You will hear a prompt that you have been queued. You may withdraw your question at any time by pressing star then 2. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing the numbers. Once again, we ask that each participant limit themselves to a single question to allow ample time to respond to each participant that may wish to participate in this portion of the call. For our first question, we'll go to the line of A.J. Rice from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
spk17: Thanks. Hi, everybody. Just maybe drill down a little more on the comments around the commercial business. I know the commercial operating margin did peer-to-peer to 7.6%, and I wondered... It sounds like you're seeing elevated utilization there. Is that something that you just think is temporary? Will that correct itself? And are you moving toward making pricing adjustments for 23 on that? Or is this sort of the run rate to go forward with?
spk21: Thanks for the question, AJ. You know, I think as you think about our commercial business, there's a couple, like I want to parse out a little bit of what you're seeing in that business because I think it's important. to first look at the entire business. One, you know, we've had strong and consistent growth and feel very good about our business in the last few years. And there's two elements. One is obviously the risk-based business and the other fee-based business. I'm going to start with the fee-based and I'll address your question directly on risk-based. In terms of the fee-based business, we're making really good progress on the strategy around margin improvement as we've laid out on the five to one to three to one strategy. And we continue to grow our fee-based business, I think, at an industry-leading rate. And just a couple of, I think, proof points that help show that even inside of the totality of the business. You know, our fee revenue grew 7.9% year over year. And then if you just look at it sequentially, 7.3% for the six months ending June 30th, which shows that acceleration of growth that we've been talking about. Um, and you compare that to our membership, which grew about 3.4% year over year. So clearly there is really good improvement. I think we're very much on the progression that we described at our investor day to improve our revenue for fee based members, you know, turning to the operating margin, um, more in our risk-based business, as I've shared before, that does remain challenged by COVID. And that really is what we believe to be the, um, like the most significant issue. And we do think it's transitory. We do expect our margins to recover to the pre-pandemic levels and are taking actions to do that. You saw an improvement overall from first to second quarter, but again, this has to pace through as we do renewals. The last thing I would say is we also know, you know, we've been in this pandemic now for several years. COVID is not going to zero. Ultimately, as we think about our pricing in the commercial market, we're not changing anything about the approach or philosophy that we've used historically. We're always pricing to our forward view of costs. As we look at this year, COVID hit at a time high in January and February. So as we look to forward pricing, we're looking around all of our costs, and now I think have a much better perspective on projection of what those costs should be. And so you'll see rateable improvement over the course. And maybe I'll ask John to just talk about your question on utilization a little bit. John?
spk19: Yeah, thank you, and good morning, AJ. In associated with utilization, At our first quarter call, I think we were very clear that the Omicron surge in January was most significant to the commercial market. And so that obviously has a direct impact on the commercial margins. And even as we go through the full six months and project out for the rest of 2022, we do believe that commercial will have a cost structure when you add COVID and non-COVID combined to be in excess of baseline, above baseline actually each quarter for the year. Medicare is going to be close to baseline, and Medicaid we expect to be a bit below baseline overall, the entire company above baseline for the rest of the year. So clearly those cost structures being directed more towards the commercial marketplace have a direct impact on the commercial margins that you're seeing. And as Gail said, we do believe that they're transitory and that we will price the forward trend for the future. Thank you. Thanks. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Justin Lake from Wolf Research. Please go ahead.
spk12: Thanks. Good morning. If I could just follow up on AJ's question first. You have a 2025 margin target, I think, in the commercial business of 11%. out there, you know, let's say you do close to eight this year. Do you still think 11% a reasonable target for 2025? And if so, how do you think the pace of kind of getting there is over the next three years? And then my question would just be, you know, can you give us an update on the city of New York contract? Looks like you pulled out of that. Can you give us some background and how that affects numbers? Thanks.
spk21: sure well thanks for the question uh justin let me let me address your first question we have not changed our 2025 uh perspective um in the short run different um impacts that we didn't obviously have at the time we gave that but we haven't changed anything about our 2025 overall margin perspective across the businesses that we shared so i just want to be really clear about that you know in terms of your second question the the city of new york contract um You know, a couple of things on that one, um, when we originally bid on this contract, it was set to go live in January 1st of this year. But as you know, and we've shared on this call due to litigation, that go live date has been, um, delayed several times now. Um, you know, based on the fact that we've been on in the active litigation, we had asked the city for some certainty around exactly what the benefits would be. And also quite frankly, Medicare Advantage contracts take a lot of work to put up and we want to make sure that the members were best served. We've served these members for a long time and we needed greater certainty. So we did not feel, based on the inability of what's going on with the litigation as well as being prepared that we could go forward with the contract. Notably, the city remains one of our very important customers and we continue to serve those clients on a fee-based business. So that's That's where we stand on the city of New York. Thanks very much for the question, though. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Lance Wilkes from Bernstein. Please go ahead.
spk02: Yeah, could you talk a little bit about the Carillon business? And in particular, I'm interested in, as you look at penetration into fully insured and the self-insured business, what is the current status of kind of product penetration there, and what are the biggest opportunities for you? as you drive that forward.
spk21: Thanks for the question, Lance. I'm going to have Pete Hightine, who leads Carillon, please address that. Pete?
spk05: Thanks, Lance. Appreciate the question. First of all, we're really pleased with our progress and performance in Carillon so far from a growth and operating perspective as we build out the services business. Overall, Q2 is in line with the improvements we expected. I'm really pleased with the performance improvements across all the verticals. As we've discussed before, Lance, one of our main focal points is really driving more capitation and risk through Carillon. So as it relates to progress, we're really executing on that strategy with strength. So from a cross-selling perspective, we've played that through in Beacon, in AIM, and with my nexus. As we talked about with AIM, we just finalized capitating a lot of the services this year, starting last year. We're also executing on our strategy associated with growth, and I'm really excited about the innovation that's occurring. Gail mentioned in her remarks that A really great example of this, the rollout of a post-acute care offering via MyNexus. This is a great example of penetrating our business to a greater degree. I think you've heard me talk about this before, but one of the things we're trying to do is naturally extend our offerings and penetrate our business to a greater degree. And that's exactly what this post-acute care offering is. We're taking the tools, technology, and capabilities of MyNexus, and we're utilizing that with a new offering to penetrate the Medicare business in a much more broad way. So I'm really thrilled with the progress. You'll continue to see that. I think the opportunities are vast in terms of further penetration.
spk21: Thanks, Pete, and thanks for the question, Lance. And I think, as Pete shared, we're excited about this business. It's an important strategic lever for us, but importantly, it's really early innings. And the examples that I shared in my earlier comments just show that we can begin to implement this in certain markets, get experience on it on a risk basis, and then roll it out to the rest of our 20 million-plus risk-based members and 47 million total. So, a lot of opportunity for us, but we also want to make sure we execute this with precision and benefit both our health plans as well as Caroline. So, thank you. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Lisa Gill from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
spk07: Yeah, hi. Good morning. This is Cal Sternick on for Lisa. Quick question on the Medicaid redeterminations. So what are you assuming for timing on when those will resume? And I know you've previously talked about retaining about a third of the members you've added during the public health emergency period. Does that still seem like the right target in your view?
spk21: Thanks for the question. I'm going to ask Felicia Norwood, who leads our government business, to please address that.
spk01: Felicia? Good morning, and thank you for the question. As you know, the PHE was recently extended to October 13th. So it follows that, you know, we're going to have Medicaid attrition related to redetermination that could begin as early as November. However, I'll say, you know, given back to school, it's also possible that COVID prevalence could rise around the September, October timeframe, or that the population might need boosters or other vaccines. So at this point, it's really simply too early to predict, but it's certainly possible that we could have a PHE extension into January of 2023. You know, if there is another extension into January of 2023, that could lead to Medicaid attrition starting right around the February timeframe. So, redeterminations would then commence over what would be 14 months, given guidance from CMS that asks states to have up to 14 months to redetermine members and not redetermine more than one-ninth of that membership in a single month. As we think about where we are, you should keep in mind that we operate, obviously, in 14 blue states. And our Medicaid membership, our total Medicaid membership, I'll say, has grown significantly across that platform. So as we think about where we are today, we are going to continue to work very closely with our commercial colleagues to make sure that we have in place a process for looking very thoughtfully, market by market, and having a view of the competitive dynamics in those markets and capture as much as we can inside of the Anthem 14 blue states. where we will be offering ACA plans in nearly every county in 2023. So as we sit here today, we gave that early number, certainly with respect to 35% of that membership staying within Medicaid, another 45% or so going into commercial plans, about 15% on the exchanges and 5% in uninsured. But the macro environment certainly has changed tremendously. What we'll say is that we are positioned very well to navigate through the end of this PHE and the return of redeterminations when that happens based on a very balanced portfolio here at Anthem, Elevance Health, I should say, and certainly will continue to work closely with our commercial colleagues to make sure that our members have access to care, continuity of coverage, and can really navigate this landscape when redeterminations begin.
spk21: Thank you felicia I just want to reiterate one point I think that's really important that felicia made which in john has said many times, which is the balance portfolio that we have across elements health and. You know, one of the statistics that I think really brings it home is there's been more than 6 million medicaid entrance as part of not doing redeterminations in our 14 blue states. And we have significantly, regardless of the percentage you look at, in our commercial business, have coverage now in nearly every county on our individual exchanges. So we've been planning for this. We're preparing for it across our businesses and feel very well prepared to manage that. And again, obviously, CMS has given the guidance to take up to 14 months and not determine more than one ninth at a month. So again, thank you very much for the question. But overall, we feel that we've got very good coverage. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Matt Borsch from BMO. Please go ahead.
spk23: Yes, thank you. I just wanted to ask about, you know, as you pull these pieces together or have pulled them together for Carillon, how are you thinking about home health? And I mentioned that in the context of, of course, an acquisition of a home health company by one of your largest competitors and also the issues in the home health area with the shortage of nurses and so forth, and how you're grappling with that, frankly, in the current environment. Sure. Pete, would you like to address that, please?
spk05: Yeah, no, I appreciate the question, Matt. You know, home care is a space we're really interested in. Our focus with Carol on, as we've talked about, is on complex patients. We've talked about being on the right side of healthcare, giving patients access to services in the most appropriate setting. And certainly, you know, home is a critical component in that regard. I think, you know, when you look at our acquisition of MyNexus, which closed last year, and its focus on the home, you know, through utilization management tools and capabilities and partnering with a very vast network of providers, we have nine of the top ten nationally to drive the most appropriate level of services in the home is a good example. Another example in terms of how we're penetrating the home today is through Aspire. It's a national, you know, leading company in the delivery of palliative care services. So I'd say strategically in the short term, I mentioned this before, we've been looking actively for natural extension opportunities with regard to the assets we have. And again, a great example of that is the post-acute care launch that we just mentioned. We also launched most recently as it relates to the home, the delivery of social determinants of health and star services, you know, via those capabilities. On a longer term basis, in terms of your question, you know, we really, we do continue to evaluate further opportunities in terms of direct care that can be provided in the home and delivering that value to all our Elevance health plans and ensuring patients get the right level of care. And we are very sensitive to your last point about the labor issues. It's been interesting, but a lot of the companies that we've been partnering with have been able to effectively navigate some of the labor issues as it relates to home in terms of our members getting critical care. So that's a good thing right now in the short term. Next question, please.
spk20: Next we'll go to the line of Nathan Rich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
spk22: Hi, good morning. Thanks for the question. I wanted to ask on the commercial selling season for 23, you know, you're obviously coming off a very strong national account selling season for 22. Could you talk about, you know, maybe how those conversations have progressed for the upcoming year? And, you know, have there been any changes in the nature of those conversations, just, you know, given the macro backdrop? And, you know, has that changed the opportunity to sell in, you know, services like pharmacy or stop loss or others? Thank you.
spk21: Well, thanks for the question. I'll have Morgan Kendrick, who leads our commercial and specialty business, address that. Morgan?
spk06: Hey, Mason. Thank you for the question. Yeah, it's, you know, the business is cyclical. Typically, these cases renew on a 36- or 60-month cycle. So you think about the very large year we had for the 2022 cycle. 2023 is down from that, and that's expected. There were a number of jumbos last year. What we're seeing notably, which is consistent with last year, is a number of cases going out for single vendor opportunities. That hasn't changed in what we've seen this year, albeit we have seen the dampening in the large jumbo cases in our geographies. But the conversations are consistent. You can certainly imagine you alluded to the fact that we've got a talent challenge, and employers have shifted this concept to more of a human capital strategy and how they actually think about their benefits differently and attracting retaining talent. So that's been a big piece of it. At the end of the day, the conversations are generally focused around two things. Number one, economics. Number two, experience. When we think about the assets that we deliver from a network perspective nationally, we score very well. Also, when you think about how we think about the experience component. Gail mentioned earlier our total health connection suite of services up 33% with nearly 4 million of our commercial members. That's almost half of our commercial business is using that service. We think that's going to crescendo. So we feel confident in it. Certainly, it's a smaller sales cycle. We're seeing that across the country. It's not notable to any geography, but we are seeing wins where we're seeing consolidation, and we're starting to get the answers for the 1-1s. They're affirmative, and we feel really good. Thanks again for the question.
spk21: Yeah, thanks, Morgan. I'm going to have Pete address your pharmacy penetration question.
spk05: Pete? Yeah, no, thanks for that. And working very closely with Morgan, this is a critical issue for us, as we've talked about, in terms of penetrating the Elevance book of business and our ASO business. And we continue to get really strong feedback from the distribution community regarding a lot of our solutions. Our pricing is coming in line. Many of our offerings, like our specialty cost relief program, our enhanced specialty condition management programs are really gaining legs, as well as the way we're bundling offerings. How this is playing out in the market is really good results and improvement year over year. We've experienced a 300% improvement year over year, year to date, in terms of the total members sold. And importantly, I want to emphasize this point. We're seeing a lot of growth in the middle market and down market, you know, less than 10,000 members. It's a really nice sweet spot for us. It's where Morgan, the commercial business, do very, very well. And our margin profile is very strong, as well as it really plays through on the integrated value proposition. And that is a big contributor to the five to one to three to one that we've talked about historically.
spk21: Yeah, thanks, Pete. I think, you know, what you heard from both Morgan and Pete is really We're very pleased that we're winning in the most sophisticated and discerning segment of the market, and that really plays across all of our customers. So thanks very much for the question. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Gary Taylor from Cowan.
spk24: Please go ahead. Mr. Taylor, your line is open. Can you hear me now?
spk21: Yes, we can hear you, Gary.
spk16: Okay, great. Sorry. I just want to come back to commercial operating income a little bit. Obviously, you had modest growth this quarter, COVID still impacting it. I think earlier in the year, you had talked about some of the extreme quarterly seasonality and commercial OI easing a bit this year, which would imply that commercial OI growth in the second half will continue to look better. Just want to make sure that's still your expectation, and particularly with, you know, just in the early months of July, we are seeing COVID hospitalizations picking up again. You know, is it still your expectation that that commercial OI growth can improve from what we've seen in the first half?
spk19: Thank you for the question, Gary, and good morning. You know, associated with the seasonality, I'll just clarify for everyone on the line what we talked about during the first quarter. was that there are many of the services that carillon offers are being sold to commercial on a capitated rate basis and so the seasonality that historically would have been in commercial associated with those services is now going to be in our carillon segment and commercial will have less seasonality so TAB, Mark McIntyre, Yes, that is still playing out exactly as we talked about 90 days ago, and you know that will continue to be part of the quarterly cadence for both of those entities over time. TAB, Mark McIntyre, And then then associated with with the overall cost structure. TAB, Mark McIntyre, You know, as I had said, I think an aj's question, we are expecting the commercial. cost structure for COVID and non-COVID combined to be above baseline again in the third quarter and again in the fourth quarter, which obviously puts pressure on the overall margins. Thank you.
spk21: Thank you. And that, again, as John said, very consistent with the expectations that we've always had. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Scott Fidel from Stevens. Please go ahead.
spk11: Hi, thanks. I wanted to ask about just for an update on the marketplace business and if you can talk about how marketplace margins have been performing year-to-date relative to plan, then also just some initial insights into how you're thinking about the pricing environment for the exchanges in 2023. Obviously, a lot of different moving pieces to pricing as there always seems to be in this business, but it does seem that at least some of the most, let's call it aggressive actors in the market have have started to file for some firming rate increases. So just interested in your perspectives on how pricing is looking for the exchanges next year. Thanks.
spk21: Sure. Let me ask Morgan Kendrick to comment on that, please. Morgan?
spk06: Yes, Scott. Thanks for the question. You know, generally your questions around how we think about the 23 pricing, again, we've noted we really like this business. There's a great opportunity and our margins are performing as expected, quite honestly, for 22. Um, we're just now pricing 23. We're in the middle of that cycle. Your point is, um, is, is, is, is spot on that. There's always an actor that's looking to take aggressive share and aggressive pricing points in each geography. Um, we are seeing some farming, but there's always a new actor that wants to come into the, to the, to the mix, so to speak. Um, it isn't a competitive market, but we continue to look at this as an expanding opportunity. As Gail alluded to in Felicia alluded to, when we think about the Medicaid redetermination, we are now in north of 95% of the counties and the geographies that we serve. So we feel strongly about it. We're taking prudent, normal pricing actions. Nothing's changed in our pricing strategy. We're pricing to the forward view of trend with all of, you know, in modifying for all of the challenges that are currently facing in the business or in the economies. That said, we expect to be expanding. We've been notified of expansions in some of our largest geographies. We know that we look good in those geographies. So over the next 60 days through 60 to 90 days, we will firm up the position. But right now we feel quite good about it.
spk21: Yeah. And thanks Morgan. I think, you know, sort of summarizing that we feel good about this business. We've had a pretty consistent strategy. We haven't looked for outsized growth. We want to be in markets where we can be for the longterm. And that's why you've seen us year over year, expand the counties we're in as we continue to see the stability of that marketplace. So again, You know, that business is performing along our expectations, and we expect to be in more counties. We see some opportunities, obviously, as redeterminations come in as a real catcher's mitt for some of that. So thanks for the question. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Stephen Valliquette from Barclays. Please go ahead.
spk10: Great, thanks. Good morning. I guess mine's really just more of a confirmatory question around some of the comments on the elevated commercial medical cost trends. I think in one part of the Q&A, you mentioned the elevated costs related maybe more to the exchange individual membership within commercials. So I just want to confirm, yes or no, is that the bigger part of what's happening? And I guess just for further clarification, yes or no, is the group risk-based commercial book of business in particular seeing elevated medical cost trends above the pre-COVID baseline? Just a little more color around the two subsegments within commercial risk. Thanks.
spk19: Thank you, Steve, for the question. So just for clarity, we have not provided any commentary associated with the difference between ACA and group. We've talked about commercial and total, so I'm not exactly sure what comment that you were referring to, but it's not anything that was part of this call. You know, and just to reiterate what I've said, Tad Piper- You know, we have seen overall cost structures in commercial to be elevated in excess of what a normalized baseline would have been head code never occurred. Tad Piper- You can certainly look at the amount of membership that we have and in fully insured risk versus ACA and. Tad Piper- You know, obviously risk is the lion's share of the membership, the the group risk i'm sorry as a lion's share of the fully insured membership. So obviously that is the primary driver. But overall, we do believe that the COVID costs are transitory. They're not going to go to zero, as Gail had said. We are going to proactively price for forward trend. But the impact that we have on our margins currently is a transitory piece of that equation. And so we feel very good about our long-term aspects. Thank you. Thanks, John. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of David Windley from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hi, thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask a question on Medicare Advantage. I think you're targeting double-digit growth this year and well on your way to that. I'm wondering if that can continue next year, what you're thinking about for the open enrollment and competitive landscape there and with the fairly healthy rate for 2023. So just views on Medicare Advantage.
spk01: Sure. Felicia, would you like to address that? Good morning, and thank you, David. You know, first and foremost, let me start by saying, you know, we are pleased with how we are performing this year. We started with a very strong AEP, and that certainly has kept us on track to deliver double-digit growth in our individual MA business. You might also want to recall that most of our business continues to come in throughout the course of the year because we have a very balanced portfolio when you look at our duals growth, and that membership comes in year-round. It's too early to talk about 23 and anything associated with double-digit growth. I will say we expect to continue to have strong growth. We have what we believe will be very competitive products in the marketplace. Our benefit designs, which are really led with our supplemental benefit offerings as we think about whole health, continue to resonate with consumers. And we continue to be very focused on going deeper in our markets, particularly in our blue states. So when we think about how we are positioned today, we have very nice competitive benefits. Strategically, we've continued on that course as we head into 2023. and I think we're positioned to continue to deliver strong growth. You know, long-term, our focus and certainly our perspective on Medicare Advantage remains unchanged. This is a very attractive segment for us, strategically important with us and our Caroline services as well, and we're committed to continuing to deliver strong growth in our business.
spk20: Thank you. Next question, please. Next, we'll go to the line of Ricky Goldwasser from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
spk00: Yeah, hi, good morning. So one clarifying question. You talk clearly about COVID plus non-COVID utilization being above baseline for the year and second half. What are you seeing for non-COVID utilization on the commercial business? Is it in line with pre-COVID or below? And then secondly, Can you comment on the sensitivity of commercial membership to potential changes in unemployment? One of your competitors talked about 50 basis points for every 100 basis points to change in unemployment. She just kind of wanted to see if you have any context to give us there. And what are you hearing from your clients about their plans to manage their workforce?
spk19: Thank you, Gricky, for that question. multi-part question. Let me try to answer the first part of it and then ask one of my partners here to reply to the other part of your question in terms of cost structure. So, you know, we have been really disclosing COVID and non-COVID combined as our total cost and not really specifying or trying to parse out the, at least publicly, the amount that's COVID and the amount that's non-COVID. And I can tell you that non-COVID all by itself is a bit below baseline, even in commercial. And then when you add COVID on top, the total of the two exceeds baseline. You know, we have seen still ER utilization being down from pre-pandemic levels. Inpatient is actually down a bit here this year. outpatient is actually up a little bit compared to pre-COVID levels or pre-pandemic levels. But all in, you know, the cost structure is a cost structure. We have to cover it all, and we certainly will. So hopefully that gives you the clarity you need.
spk21: Yeah, and to the second part of your question, I think I caught most of it, Ricky, but I think there's a few things. One, to your how are employers thinking about their workforce as As I think we shared a little bit earlier in the call, Morgan did, now we're really seeing kind of employers still expanding their workforce and looking for more benefits and to maintain the strength of their workforce. So we haven't seen any pullback yet in terms of our employer populations across any of the size segments that we serve. That's not to say that that couldn't happen, but at this stage it's, you know, as you think about the challenges in the economy, they're more inflation-based than employment-based at this stage. and employers are still looking for strong solutions. One of the things that we're offering, obviously, is affordable products. We've been continuing to enhance our product portfolio. We have a very strong cost position. Again, one of the reasons we win is we go in with a very strong medical cost position across all those segments. So I think from that perspective, we have not seen any noticeable difference. In terms of our own book of business, if you look at our history, we've had actually – I really can't comment on the other – Uh, who've given you some numbers around what they think would happen, but our book of business has been quite resilient. As you remember, we have a very deep, um, uh, we support school districts, public service, uh, public services, et cetera. And so we have a very, I think different profile across our businesses and our history has shown that those have, uh, had greater stickiness during both up and down times, um, in the economy. So overall. I think at this stage we're still seeing strong interest and strong growth from the commercial sector. Next question, please.
spk20: Next we'll go to the line of Robert Cottrell from Cleveland Research. Please go ahead.
spk14: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to follow up on Medicaid. Given that now utilization within the Medicaid business has been running below baseline or below expectations for the past several quarters. Is there any risk to states coming back to you and doing rate adjustments given the lower than expected utilization?
spk19: Yeah, thanks, Rob. Very good question. I would say first and foremost, we are always working with our state partners to ensure that we have actuarially justified rates, rates that really mirror the acuity of the population. You know, there is one really significant item just to make sure that we're all aware of, and that's that we're in an MOR collar or MOR rebate position in many of our Medicaid states currently. So, you know, as we will be refunding back to the states amounts of the premium that we've been paid here this past year or so, and as we look at what future rate actions are or rate filings could do, the first thing that they will do is they will reduce the amount of the MLR rebates before we end up with our final rate. But at the end of the day, we feel very good about our ability to negotiate actuarially justified rates with our state partners. Thank you. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Steven Baxter from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
spk15: Yeah, hi, thanks. Just wanted to ask about the assumptions you're making on utilization in the back half of the year and what we should think about for the MLR cadence there. So appreciating that you're running above, you know, what you view as the baseline, but it does seem like other parts of the system, you know, view that they're below baseline or expecting a ramp of utilization throughout the year. I guess how much of that is in your thinking for the guidance? Thank you.
spk19: Steve, I'm not positive I can comment on what other parts of the system you're referring to without a little bit more specificity on that. But I just say that we track utilization very closely. We certainly understand the seasonality factors associated with utilization. I think Felicia even mentioned going back to school and things that that might cause. And we're trying to factor all those variables in. And we actually feel very, very good about the analytics and the informatics we have associated with this information. So we have certainly put our best thinking forward in terms of the cost trends, the pricing, and the guidance that we've provided. So thank you for the question. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Whit Mayo from SVB LeRinc. Please go ahead.
spk13: Thanks. I just wanted to go back to MyNexus for a second. Can you share what percent of your MA membership is in states that you have delegated some services to MyNexus today? I'm just trying to think of the opportunity as you scale the partnership. And when you delegate risk, if that's what we want to call it, to MyNexus, what are they doing with network strategies? Are you tiering, narrowing the network? When you optimize the level of care, is that just reducing the allowable visits? I'm just trying to
spk05: properly understand exactly what you're doing sure Pete would you like to respond yeah let me um let me start with with what you asked about exactly what we're doing on the post acute care launch because it's something that we're we're really excited about in terms of the natural extension off the capabilities we have today when you think about you know what my Nexus does we have industry-leading tools and capabilities that really allow us to efficiently manage on the UM side And as we've talked about, partner with our network providers and then effectively manage the level and appropriateness of services. In the core product, it's in the home. So when you think about the post-acute care product, just to give you specificity on what we're doing, we're really leveraging these tools for post-acute care management upon discharge of the patient out of the inpatient setting. And then through our leading portal, again, these are the tools and technologies that really differentiate us. Post-acute care providers are easily able to make requests for services It creates a much more effective and efficient experience for the provider. And then this enables us to be very clear up front in terms of the most appropriate levels of post-acute care. So when you think about that in that setting, you think about long-term acute care facilities, you think about rehabilitation facilities, you think about skilled nursing facilities. And we're managing the appropriate level of services, and then we're eventually facilitating a discharge, hopefully, to the home. And as we've talked about, what Caroline does is we manage that entire episode of care on a capitated basis. This builds in predictable cost of care for our partners in the health plans, in this case for Felicia and the Medicare business. And if we're effective at managing that, we are driving an incremental margin for Caroline and then incremental benefit for Elevance.
spk21: Thanks, Pete. You know, I think that there's just two points that I wanted to highlight from Pete's description. One, you know, a core part of our strategy that we shared about Carillon is moving from a fee basis to a risk basis. And so when we acquired MyNexus, we did have a large participation with them and knew them quite well in our Medicare business, but on a fee basis. So this is the next iteration across all of our Carillon services where we now have, I think, much better insight and can move this to a risk basis. So that was just the beginning and why I say early innings there. And then the second thing is we see this as a huge opportunity. As you talk about network strategy, pull this through our value-based contracts and our partnerships and relationships. And again, another core part of our strategy where we see this as very synergistic. So thanks for the question. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Kevin Fishbeck from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk25: Hey, thanks for the question. This is Adam Rahn. I'm for Kevin. Going back to the comments about Medicaid, how should we think about maybe the impact of margins from redeterminations? I could see two potential sources of margin compression that are pretty clear. Like one is obviously just negative fixed cost leverage from losing membership. But more importantly, and I guess complicated, is the potential that healthy people are more likely to lose coverage first. So is there a risk that there'd be a rate mismatch from the states for an extended period of time as they take time to reevaluate the acuity. Thanks.
spk19: Thank you, Kevin, for the question. And certainly some of the questions you asked were maybe consistent with some of the things we saw in 2019. So let me just maybe reference a little bit what's different now versus then. So in 2019, we went through a redetermination process. It worked through very quickly. And then the overall acuity of the population was a little bit higher than what the rates that had been set, uh, had justified. And, and just FYI, there were retroactive rate increases ultimately, but there was clearly a disconnect for a few quarters there in 2019, where now we have a very, um, well thought out. Process that's going to take up to 14 months that won't even begin. until after the PHE expires. The other thing is, as I had mentioned in a different question, we're in an MLR collar position in virtually every Medicaid market. And so the immediate impact to any of the rates will first be to reduce the MLR collar position that we're in. In 2019, we had very, very few MLR collars. But I think the most important element of all this is now part of how the pricing is done. Thanks to some of the great work our teams have done, the standard rating input now as part of the Medicaid pricing includes an acuity change factor. And that was not the case in 2019. That was a one-off conversation. And now it's part of the standard input into the rates for 2022. So all in, we think we're in a significantly better position today than we were then. 2019 might be informative, but it's certainly not a precedent. So we actually feel very good about our future state prospects. Thank you for the question. Next question, please.
spk20: Next, we'll go to the line of Ben Hendricks from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you very much. I just wanted to do a quick follow-up to Dave's question about the competitive backdrop for MA and duals. Clearly, supplemental benefits is a key element a key area of competition as we go forward and this Medicare Advantage becomes more competitive. Just wanted to see if you could go into a little bit more detail about how you're differentiating your supplemental benefits and products for those members. And I think you had mentioned on the first quarter call everyday extras. And just if you go into more detail on that and how that's differentiating your offering. Thanks. Sure. Felicia? Yeah. Ben, thank you for the question.
spk01: You know, I will say that we were really early leaders in the supplemental benefit areas because of our focus on whole person health. And what everyday extras, or what we call essential extras, allow us to do is to allow members to really personalize the benefit that best meets their needs. All of our members are different, and at the end of the day, we think it's important that they are able to have a range of benefit offerings that either allow them to provide transportation grocery benefits, whatever that need is from an overall whole health perspective. So I think the differentiation for us lies really in the personalization. So we've developed a range of offerings that allow members to really improve their overall health outcomes. And that gives them the flexibility to be able to decide what works best for them. So ultimately, I think that's the differentiating factor for us from a Medicare Advantage perspective. We've tried to make sure we continue with that stability as we head into 2023 and certainly give members the opportunity to make those personalized decisions that works best for them.
spk21: Thank you, Felicia. And now we'll take our last question.
spk20: For our final question, we'll go to the line of Josh Raskin from Nefron Research. Please go ahead.
spk09: Hi, thanks for fitting me in. So with the rebranding complete, and it's been a little while since the 2021 Investor Day, could you just remind us the overall strategy at Carillon? And I'd be most interested in any areas of interest that have changed over the last year and a half or so and why.
spk21: Thank you. And I'll have Pete address the Carillon strategy. But I think what you saw certainly in our overall rebranding with Elevance Health is our business has changed and we've been on a journey. from just traditional health benefits, which are still important to us and continue to grow. And as John shared in just how our revenue has changed even over the last five years, pretty significant shift. Caroline's a really important part of our move in the services strategy around the complex and chronic, but more importantly that, you know, serving our captive membership already of 47 million members. So maybe, Pete, you can... Talk a little bit more about how you see Caroline's strategy evolving.
spk05: Thanks, Gail. And, excuse me, Gail just hit it at a high level in terms of, you know, our high-level strategies advancing whole health and connecting people to accessible, affordable, and integrated care. And as she said, our focus, you know, is on the Elevance health plans, 20 million fully injured, 47 million folks in total. And just to double-click on that, you know, we're really focused on those complex populations. When you think about the spend in those complex populations, on a per member per year basis significantly higher, you know, at 12,500, for example, versus a standard average commercial member at 4,500 per member per year. And again, this creates a real wonderful springboard for us to sell externally and penetrate, you know, clients externally, especially, you know, the blues. In addition, we talk a lot about being on the right side of healthcare, which again means providing services in the most affordable, highest quality settings. So that's something that we're, we're very focused on and ensuring that those are connected to the growing profit pools outside of traditional insurance. So none of that has really changed. As you know, Josh, in terms of what we talked about historically, the verticals that we're focused on are care delivery, behavioral health, advanced analytics and services, and then pharmacy. I'd say we're very interested moving forward. I wouldn't say it's a change, but that we're very interested is a deeper interest in the home, as we've talked about, Certainly specialty pharmacy, where we're seeing trends accelerate, and we believe the opportunity is really vast to penetrate the Elevance book. And then finally, I'll close on something that we're very, very focused on and we believe could be a differentiator, is how we connect with our digital organization and build a digital platform for health that really connects all these services in a cohesive and coherent way, ultimately for the patient. And that's something that we're actively working on.
spk21: Thank you, Pete, and thank you to everyone for joining us and for your questions this morning. In closing, we're really pleased with the ongoing momentum in our business in 2022 to date, and we're confident that the ongoing execution of our strategy positions us to continuing to deliver against the financial targets that we shared with you at our investor conference last year. We'll keep executing with excellence and discipline to bring increasing value to all of our stakeholders. Thank you for your interest in Elevance Health and have a great rest of week.
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