Energizer Holdings, Inc.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Energizer Holdings Inc. Third Quarter FY 2025 Results Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press the star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Monday, August 4, 2025. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Polden. Please go ahead.

Good morning, and welcome to Energizer's third quarter fiscal 2025 conference call. Joining me today are Mark Levine, President and Chief Executive Officer, and John Drabik, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. In just a moment, Mark will share a few opening comments, and then we'll take your questions. A replay of this call will be available on the investor relations section of our website, energizerholdings.com. In addition, please note that our earnings release, prepared remarks, and a slide deck are also posted on our website. During the call, we will make forward-looking statements about the company's future business and financial performance, among other matters. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. We do not undertake to update these forward-looking statements. Other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements are included in reports we file with the SEC. We also refer the presentation to non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP measures as shown in our press release issued earlier today, which is available on our website. Information concerning our categories and estimated market share discussed on this call relates to the categories where we compete and is based on Energizer's internal data, data from industry analysis, and estimates we believe to be reasonable. The battery category information includes both brick-and-mortar and e-commerce retail sales. And less otherwise noted, all comments regarding the quarter and year pertain to Energizer's current fiscal year and all comparisons to prior year relate to the same period in fiscal 2024. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Mark. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today.

As you can see, we have altered our approach for releasing earnings. I hope you've had a chance to review our press release along with our prepared remarks posted on our website this morning. I'll open today's call with a high-level summary and then open it up for questions. We had a strong third quarter. Results came in ahead of expectation, and that's a direct reflection of the work we've done over the past few years to strengthen our business. We've been focused on restoring margins, investing in growth, and building a more agile operation, and it's paying off.

Let me hit a few highlights.

First, our categories remain resilient. in spite of a cautious consumer. We had a solid performance in batteries and lights, and while auto care was a bit softer due to mild weather, our new podium series is off to a great start. Second, the projected impact of tariffs on our business has materially improved. Current tariff rates are significantly lower relative to our guidance last quarter. and we have a comprehensive plan under which we have already executed several initiatives to mitigate any remaining impact to earnings. Through a combination of pricing, cost initiatives, and production credits, we now expect to fully offset the earnings impact from tariffs in both fiscal 2025 and 2026. A big part of that is the production credits we're now receiving as a result of our continued investment in U.S. production. These credits are meaningful. We expect them to contribute $35 to $40 million of gross margin, net earnings, and free cash flow on an annual basis prior to any reinvestment. We also completed the acquisition of Advanced Power Solutions in May. The acquisition further expands our ability to manufacture in-region for region and provides additional optionality to mitigate the impact of tariffs and supply chain disruptions. The acquisition also provides greater scale to our European business and provides the opportunity to expand with key retailers in strategic markets. We expect the acquisition to contribute $40 to $50 million of net sales in the current fiscal year. We returned $84 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases this quarter. We also repurchased an additional $27 million of shares in July while maintaining leverage demonstrating our confidence in the business and our commitment to disciplined capital allocation. We are increasing our outlook to reflect the higher level of earnings generated by pricing, tariff mitigation efforts, and the inclusion of production credits. We now expect adjusted EPS of $355 to $365 and adjusted EBITDA between $630 and $640 million. We have a high level of confidence in delivering our fiscal 2025 outlook and generating continued earnings growth in fiscal year 2026.

With that, let's open the call for questions.

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press the star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press the star followed by the number two. Before we take your questions, I'd like to kindly ask everyone to please limit your question to one primary question along with a single follow-up. If you have any further questions, please rejoin the queue. With that, our first question comes from the line of Lauren Lieberman with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks so much. Good morning. There was a lot to digest this morning in the release, and having the prepared remarks that early definitely helped explain all the moving pieces. But just to be clear, I wanted to know if you could first lay out for us kind of key fundamental underlying drivers for the quarter, this quarter and next, and really just thinking about organic sales and profitability and kind of stepping away from the production credits. And then I have a follow-up question on the credits.

Sure. Good morning, Lauren. Look, I'll start with kind of overall themes, and then I'll turn it over to John for a little more detail. I think key takeaways from this morning's release, we delivered a very good third quarter, and we're in a position of strength moving forward. For the quarter, we delivered organic growth. gross margin improvement and earnings growth for the fiscal year. We expect to deliver growth, gross margin improvement, as well as 7% to 10% EPS growth. I think the most important and exciting part of this quarter is that we have done an exceptional job setting up to drive earnings growth not only this year, but into fiscal 2026. And so, John, I think if you just want to walk through a little bit more of those details.

Sure. Yeah, Lauren. The organic sales were strong in the quarter. That was very helpful. You know, battery category continues to perform well for us. Auto was a little bit lower, but the podium series has been launching very well. We're in 15,000 doors and beating the plan that we'd set up. And as we called out, you know, EPS for the quarter was at 78 cents, excluding the credits. So, you know, that was well out of our outlook and the consensus. So even on that basis, it was a really strong operating quarter for us. You know, as Mark mentioned, the tariff impact, has really materially improved. So I think we're going to see a little bit of noise as we get through the fourth quarter. But heading into next year, you know, we believe that the exposure is minimal. And we really have plans in place to, you know, fully offset the bottom line impact. And then, you know, the production credits as a domestic manufacturer of qualifying battery and battery inputs, you know, we qualify for production tax credits. So that, you know, our expectation is that we're going to see about $35 to $40 million in in our base earnings now, and that's really going to come through gross margin, net earnings, and free cash flow. And that's through about 2032. So, you know, really, really bolster our earnings as we go forward. And then the other big thing is we, you know, we acquired the legacy Panasonic Europe battery business. We're actively transitioning customers to the Energizer portfolio right now. We think for the full year, we're going to get about 40 to 50 million in revenue. But there is no bottom line impact to earnings that we're expecting this year. So really strong quarter, really strong position heading into next year.

Okay, great. And then just on the production credits, maybe a little bit of a remedial question, but just if you could explain a little bit more the genesis of these, sort of why recognize it now, because there's this retroactive piece as well as the go forward. And you mentioned investment, and I wasn't clear if that was, you know, before any, like, chosen reinvestment in the business that you would have maybe done otherwise, or if there's a required level of continued investment domestically to maintain these credits going forward.

So, you know, there's no required investment required. This is a production credit. So we just need to continue producing the batteries and the inputs kind of as we have. And that should get us $35 to $40 million. A little bit about the timing. So you do file for these credits with your tax returns. We just filed our 24 return. We're going to amend our 23. Those are the catch-ups that you're seeing that we're excluding from our normal ops, and that's the $78 million or so. We've got about $34 million coming through, which is the first three quarters of 25, and we're effectively accruing that. So we will file a return next year to get our 25 credits back. And then every year thereafter, you should be getting kind of one year of activity in the P&L and one year of cash back into the business.

Okay, great. All right, thank you.

Thanks, Lauren.

And your next question comes from the line of Rob Ottenstein with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Great, thank you very much. A couple of questions for me. So first, can you put the latest acquisition of basically capacity, advanced power solutions within the framework of multiple initiatives to improve your overall manufacturing footprint, and maybe just talk about how that has been transformed over the last three, four, five years in terms of reliability, cost advantage, logistics, and present net that you'll be able to do local production in terms of the U.S. Thank you.

Yeah, sure, Rob. Great question. I think as we take a step back and look at all of the evolution of our network over the past four to five years, I think it starts during the pandemic. We made an acquisition of a facility in Indonesia in 2021. We followed it up with an acquisition of a facility in Belgium in 2023, so with the latest one with Advanced Power Solutions in May. You know, those were the acquisition-related elements of the network changes, but we also undertook, you know, for the past three years, project momentum, which was altering and optimizing our network across the globe, including in North America, where we've made significant investment in North America. You know, we've made a $50 million investment to increase the workforce, increase innovation, increase automation. and really been driving the in-region, for-region attribute of our network that you mentioned. All of those pieces sort of click together and create a dynamic network for us to address tariffs, supply chain disruptions, optimize costs, and it's all starting to come together and really well positioned from a network standpoint moving forward.

Great. And then, you know, kind of maybe kind of veering off that, You know, you bought back stock, which you hadn't for a little while. Can you talk about how we should be thinking about capital allocation over the next one to two years? Where are you thinking about in terms of taking the leverage down? Are there further, you know, capacity, you know, acquisitions that are on the radar screen? What does CapEx look like?

um you know div and just kind of update us on your you know the general outlook for for cash flow and uh and capital allocation over the next one to two years yeah robert let me start with the cash flow because you know we have invested a fair amount uh into inventory this year for two reasons one is really the plastic free uh packaging transition that we're undertaking in north america and then we've got a fair amount of inventory that we built up as we were, you know, working to offset some of these tariff impacts. We really expect that to start coming out next quarter, our fourth quarter here. You know, I think that's going to bolster the cash flow. And our expectations is that over the, you know, coming couple of years, we should be generating 10 to 12% free cash flow compared to sales. So, You know, I think that's going to put us in a good position. I'll turn it over to Mark to kind of talk about the capital.

Yeah, Robert, I think on just a general capital allocation discussion, I mean, obviously over the last couple of years, we've prioritized debt reduction and felt that was really important to do. As we look at our debt capital structure, it is fixed at very favorable rates. And following the Q2 earnings, we saw a material decline in our equity value. And that created, you know, that presented an opportunity to pivot and to create an outsized return through share repurchase. We've been able to repurchase about 5% of our outstanding shares over the last quarter. Going forward, I would expect us to continue to prioritize debt reduction. It is an important and a primary focus for us, but we also have to continue to evaluate all options to drive the highest return. So we're not going to be overly rigid in our approach, and we're going to pivot as opportunities prevent themselves from a capital allocation perspective.

And can you just help us model out, you know, tying in a little bit with Lauren's question, just help us model out CapEx over the next couple of years?

Yeah, we've been running at a, I'd say, relatively elevated rate. Mark mentioned some of the production assets that we've invested in this year. We've also had a lot going into digital transformation. My expectation is it will run closer to 2% of net sales for the next couple of years.

Terrific. Thank you very much.

And your next question comes from the line of Bill Chappelle with TruViz Securities. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning. Mark, what a journey.

Question just on the competitive landscape, because we can see, you know, the Energizer brand in the U.S. continues to do well, but maybe your largest competitor, Duracell, has lost, you know, some more of the share to private label to others. And so just as you're going in or, you know, currently this is the, I guess the timeframe where you're competing for holiday sets and stuff like that. Do you see more competitive activity coming out of your main competitor? Do you see it staying fairly stable? You know, is that a concern at all?

You know, Bill, I think as we look at the competitive landscape, both in the U.S. and international, I mean, shares are stable, private label is flat. I think we're in a great position. I think when we take a step back and look at our business holistically, we're the best position battery business. We have the strongest portfolio of brands. We have the best performing products. We just talked about with Robert, we've created a dynamic network to manage through any macro environment that we need to. And that optionality, we have the ability to partner with our retailers, to bring their particular strategies to life. And so we have the opportunity to meet consumers where they are. With all of those assets at our disposal, we, you know, it gives us and we expect to deliver consistent year-over-year growth. It may take different forms online versus in store. It may take different forms retailer to retailer. But at the end of the day, the results are going to be there. Consumers, as we mentioned, they're a little bit cautious, and that manifests itself differently. depending upon which category you're talking about. But when consumers engage in the battery category, as you said, they're purchasing our brand. So we're in a great position and we're going to continue to drive our business going forward.

So what is your initial outlook for the upcoming holidays in terms of, I realize it's fiscal 26, but in terms of both category sets and where you're placed and the consumer?

You know, I would say right now we're planning for a normal holiday season. And I think the one alteration you're starting to hear from retailers is that holiday season is going to start a little bit earlier this year and consumers are going to stretch out their shopping season. And so we need to be ready to address that and be ready to pivot from a timing standpoint. So as of now, we are planning for kind of a, you know, basically normal holiday season.

Got it. Thank you. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Bill.

And your next question comes from the line of Dara Massanian with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. Good morning. Good morning, Dara.

Historically, you've talked about investing to drive top-line growth. You've talked about expansion in emerging markets, expanding auto care internationally, investing in innovation, digital, expanding distribution, et cetera, et cetera. I won't run through everything, but Just curious strategically as you take a step back, as you think about these production credits coming in longer term, so looking beyond this year and even next year when you have the tariff impacts, does this allow you to spend incrementally behind the business? Where might those incremental investments be? And I guess B, just are you actually spending some of this back? How do you think about that net amount as you look out longer term?

I think you mentioned the five growth areas we've mentioned in the past. And we've mentioned distribution. And we're seeing $15 million distribution wins in North American International this quarter. In e-commerce, we grew 15%. In Q3, we've grown 25% year-to-date. Market expansion, we continue to see strong growth in developing markets. Pricing, we have innovation-based pricing. And then innovation, you see the podium series. So we We've continued to leverage those sort of five key areas to drive growth going forward. And certainly the production credits allow us to invest in our business, both from a network standpoint, but also on a growth standpoint. But that production credit is only adding to what we've already done with Project Momentum. So we've driven $200 million of savings through Project Momentum over the last three years, which not only helped us restore margins, it also allowed us to have a greater ability to invest for growth. So all of these things add up. to the ability to invest where we need to, to be able to drive the top line growth that you expect.

Okay. But I guess generally it sounds like you feel like you've already been stepping up the investment. So it's not like most of this is reinvested back. When you look out a couple of years, you could see a decent amount of the production credits drop to the bottom line. Is that a fair way to look at it?

Dara, what I'd say is, you know, we've called up our things for 25, and I would view that as kind of a new base. And I think as you head out over a longer period of time from here, we should expect to grow algorithmically off that. I think the credits will really help to drive it.

Okay, great. And that gets me to my next question, which is the comment about growing EPS and EBITDA in 26. Is that just meant to communicate, look, we've got a higher base than 25, but we also think we can grow off that, even with tariffs, and giving us a little more insight, various factors out there, including tariffs? Or are you signaling more that 26 could be a really outsized growth year? Just wanted to understand a bit more of the motivation behind that. You opened up the window a bit to ask. I understand you won't be giving us a specific number, but... there's also a lot of sort of puts and takes as we think about the production credit tariffs and reinvestment. So again, just trying to understand the motivation there and a bit how those three areas, some of which offset each other, some insight into how we should think about that next year.

I think it goes into the comment that I just made. So we are calling up earnings for 25 and our intention, and we're not going to give a 26 outlook, but we do believe that that's embedded in the base. And when you net it all out, We can offset the tariffs. We can continue to invest in the business. At that new higher level of earnings, we think we can grow off of that. We'll have a better visibility and get real numbers in November. But we did want to, you know, signal that we had offset a lot of the things we had seen last quarter, and we're going to be able to grow off the new level.

Okay. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Darrell.

Thanks, Darrell.

And your next question comes from the line of Andrea Teixeira with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Thank you, ma'am. And good morning, everyone. I just wanted to go back to, Mark, what you talked about, the underlying consumption trends in both batteries and autos, and then across the globe, if you can. I understand that you had some in the U.S., specifically some potential pull forward in the 4th of July in the Prime Day events. If there is any reason that the implied, you know, for which is a touch lighter, I think that probably we all thought it would be because you had a better third quarter. So can you talk to us a little bit more on those puts and takes? And then a clarification on the pricing, I understand which is your tariff impact came in better than anticipated. About half of it would be coming through the mitigation efforts, would be coming through pricing, as you put on the comments, on the prepared remarks. Any timing of it and how you're going to execute, and if that was already announced with your retail partners in the U.S., how we should be thinking of that pricing action and potential for elasticity there. Thank you.

Here, Andrea, let me talk a little bit about Q3. I mean, just to answer the question simply, there was a 4th of July shipments as well as Prime Day shipments which shifted into June instead of July. And as a result, we did have a little bit of pull forward into the quarter. And so that, I think, mainly explains some of the disconnect from what you're seeing from our U.S. consumption numbers versus our financials. On your second question on pricing, I mean, we took pricing earlier this year. It was based on innovation as well as existing tariff. headwinds, we did not take any additional pricing in connection with the Liberation Day tariffs. We fully worked through these pricing discussions with our retailers. It's starting to show up on shelf with some retailers. You're going to see that benefit really start to flow through in Q4. And what, again, as John just talked through, it allows us to deliver earnings growth this year and it sets up to deliver earnings growth next year. I think from a tariff standpoint, the message we'd leave you with is we fully offset tariffs with a lot of puts and takes, but we fully offset tariffs in 25 and going into 26.

And while you answer that, that's super helpful. On the private label pricing, right? I understand that you said private label has been stable. With their production coming mostly from abroad, do you have any indications of like price gaps that you are between because it's hard for us, we can look at it in the track channel data, but not so much with obviously Amazon choice and things like that in Amazon basic. If you can comment on what you're thinking would be embedded in your guide, the price gaps for e-commerce.

Yeah, Andrea, I think when we watch price gaps externally, we have seen some movement in private label pricing You know, one can only presume that has to do with some of the tariffs and the cost of the tariffs. I do think we're in the early days of kind of the impact of tariffs. It's only recently really started to become more settled ground where people can execute pricing against those tariffs. So we have seen some private label pricing move around. As I mentioned, shares have been largely flat in the latest reporting period. I think it goes back to what I said earlier. I think it was DeBille's question around We're the best positioned battery business out there. We have a portfolio of brands that we can leverage to meet the value needs of consumers, whether that's Energizer or whether that's Rayovac or EverReady. So we have the optionality as the environment settles from a post-tariff regime and we can respond and leverage our portfolio to maximize the retailer strategy as well as our business with that retailer.

Great. And then trends in Europe, if you can comment.

Yeah, what I would say is U.S. has been a little bit softer than the rest of the world. You know, the way I would break it up, Andrea, is, you know, sort of modern developed markets following, you know, roughly consistently consistent with what you're seeing in the U.S. And then, you know, developing and distributor markets are a little bit healthier.

Great. Thank you again. I'll pass it on.

And your next question comes from the line of Peter Grom with UBS. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Aubrey. Good morning, guys. Maybe just a few housekeeping. Maybe just to follow up on Andrea's question, just the fourth quarter organic items where I would imagine you have pretty good visibility. But just the step back that you're kind of talking to, is that really just a function of shipment timing? Or is that, you know, a sign around maybe underlying trends or category performance deteriorating a bit?

Well, you do have the shift from Q4 into Q3, so there is an element of that. You're also, you have POS trends that were roughly consistent with what our outlook is for top line in the quarter. So, you know, I would say the category's proven to be resilient. At times, consumers will make different choices. They'll stretch out their purchasing patterns. They'll shift channels. They'll shift pack size. But at the end of the day, we expect healthy trends from the battery category. It's just from quarter to quarter. Occasionally, you see some consumer softness, but it doesn't persist for very long.

Yeah, we haven't changed our full year view. So it's still flat to 2%. You're seeing that move a little bit between third and fourth quarter, but it's still relatively healthy. Okay.

And then just on that point, just any thoughts in terms of how we should be thinking about the composition of growth between the two segments in the fourth quarter? You alluded to some, you know, unfavorable weather. I would imagine that's improved in auto. So just kind of curious how we should be thinking about that from a segment perspective.

Yeah, I think the battery you're going to see roughly in line with our call overall, and obviously that's 75 to 80% of the business, so that should be pretty synced up. Auto, we expect to do a little better as they do some catching up in the fourth quarter. Both businesses or both segments should benefit from that pricing that we've taken for tariffs that you'll see come through in the fourth quarter. So I expect pricing to be a little bit of a driver in the quarter. A little bit better on the auto side than battery, though, kind of when you look at the numbers.

Great. Thanks so much. I'll pass it on. Thanks, Peter.

And your next question comes from the line of Brian McNamara with Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. I'm curious your view on current battery inventories, both at the retailer level and the consumer pantry level. We heard some companies, other companies talk about retailer destocking calendar Q1. I'm curious where they stand today.

Let's start with consumers first, Brian. I think as consumers sort of stretch out their purchase cycle, I think inventory levels tend to get a little bit lighter in these times. I think when you're looking at retailer inventory levels, I would say right now they're slightly elevated and that qualification changes retailer to retailer.

But we took all that into account as we guided to Q4.

Great. And then a quick follow-up. I guess, how would you characterize the overall health of the consumer that, you know, you guys serve? You mentioned private label shares are flat, which is a bit counterintuitive based on what we're hearing from... You know, from a consumer standpoint, Brian, I think that... Yeah, I think that's a tough question to answer with a succinct answer.

I think consumers are certainly acting cautiously. They're seeking value. They're willing to make changes to get what they want. But how that manifests itself really does change category to category. And when you look at the battery categories, John mentioned 75% of our business, it is a resilient category. Consumers need batteries. They may stretch out their purchase cycle. They may switch channels. They may trade down in pack size. But at the end of the day, our portfolio serves their needs and allows us to drive the growth that we need.

If I could just squeeze one last one in on the pricing element. When did the actual, the tariff-related price increases actually hit the consumer at the retailer level? Has it happened already? Are you expecting that to happen in, you know, the next couple months? Like, we've heard mixed messages from other companies.

Well, I mean, that's going to be a retailer-based decision. I mean, so we will negotiate our pricing with retailers, and then it's, you know, retail shelf price at their discretion.

So that would be a question for retailers. Fair enough. Thanks.

Thank you.

And once again, if you would like to ask a question, simply press the star 1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of William Reuter with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Hi. I just have two quick ones. The first, you know, there was a little bit of a change in your capital allocation. Does your leverage target still remain being below four times over the long term? And I guess I feel like M&A has been completely off the table for some time. Does that still remain to be the case?

Well, I think we will still prioritize paying down debt. So I think getting below four is a target that we'd like to continue towards. As far as M&A, we've done very small deals. I think any deals we would look at would not materially change our leverage.

least for the foreseeable future got it and then just you kind of touched upon this in the last question but you mentioned you may see a trade down in pack sizes have you seen that thus far and has this helped on your margins at all in the third quarter and I guess do you expect it could in the fourth well

So, Bill, we have a sort of a bifurcation that's going on. Consumers are either trading up to larger pack sizes or they're trading down to smaller pack sizes for, you know, an aggregate purchase price. On balance, you know, we sort of work all of those, the aggregation of those dynamics into our call for the gross margin, which we've provided.

Got it. All right. That's all for me. Thank you. Thanks, Bill.

And we have no further questions at this time.

I would like to turn it back to Mark Levine for closing remarks.

Thanks all for joining us today. Hope you have a great rest of the day.

Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.