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Q42026

5/21/2026

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Operator

Hello and welcome to the NRCS Q4 and full year 2026 earnings webcast and conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question at that time, just press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, just press star one again. And please leave me to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Now I would like to turn the call over to Lisa Hartman-Lenko, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Lisa Hartman-Lenko
Vice President of Investor Relations

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss NRSA's fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2026 results. On the call with me are Sean O'Connell, NRSA's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Andy Funk, NRSA's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Last evening, we published our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2026 results and our 10-K with the SEC, which are available on our website. We also posted slides that we will be referring to during this call. The slides are available on the presentations page within the investor relations section of our website. As a reminder, we will be presenting certain forward-looking statements on this call that are subject to uncertainties and changes in circumstances. Our actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements for a number of reasons. These statements are made only as of today. For a list of forward-looking statements and factors which could affect our future results, please refer to our recent form 8K and 10K filed with the SEC. In addition, we will be presenting certain non-GAAP financial metrics, particularly concerning our adjusted consolidated operating earnings performance, free cash flow, adjusted diluted earnings per share, and adjusted EBITDA, which excludes certain items. For an explanation of the difference between the GAAP and non-GAAP financial metrics, please see our company's Form 8-K, which includes our press release dated May 20th, 2026. Now I'll turn the call over to Enersys CEO, Sean O'Connell.

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Lisa, and good morning. Please turn to slide four. During today's call, we will review our fourth quarter and full year fiscal 26 results, update you on our energized strategic framework and demand trends, and close with guidance for the first quarter of fiscal year 27. Please turn to slide five. In the fourth quarter, we delivered our highest quarterly adjusted EPS, with and without 45X, on our second highest quarterly revenue and strong free cash flow, driven by favorable price mix, ongoing OPEX discipline, and the impact of our accelerating stock buybacks. We ended the year with full year record sales, adjusted gross profit, adjusted operating earnings, and adjusted diluted earnings per share, all before the benefit of 45X. It is notable that our ability to generate this level of earnings during the year in which demand in the electric forklift and transportation markets was down is a testament to the effectiveness of our energized strategic framework, the strength of our diversified business, and our renewed ability to perform across varied demand conditions going forward. We have structurally enhanced our business and are well positioned to deliver further value. Please turn to slide six. In fiscal 26, we implemented our energized strategic framework and are seeing meaningful benefits across the business, starting with optimizing our core. This quarter, we announced the closure of our Tijuana, Mexico facility and the shift to production to our Springfield, Missouri plant which we expect will generate approximately $20 million of incremental 45X benefits beginning in fiscal 28. We also substantially completed our previously announced plant closure in Monterrey, Mexico, in which we expect to yield approximately $19 million of savings in fiscal 27 and have already seen early realization of related incremental 45X benefits this quarter. These two projects will further optimize our manufacturing footprint maximize 45x tax benefits, support the continued transition to our higher margin, higher performance solutions, and mitigate future risks associated with tariffs, all while better serving our customers. We are also invigorating our operating model to improve execution speed and strength and alignment across the organization. As an example, our Centers of Excellence delivered early working capital improvements through better collaboration of our supply chain and purchasing teams contributing to our strong free cash flow. Additionally, work progressed to accelerate our growth through new product developments and deeper service and software capabilities. Two top priorities on our roadmap, our lithium data center solution and battery energy storage solutions for warehouse operators, both advanced into customer commissioning this quarter. As these launches gain traction in upcoming years, we expect the driver of earnings improvement to shift increasingly from margin expansion toward top-line growth. Over the past year, we have refined our overall go-to-market strategy to bring new products to market faster, do customer-focused projects, optimize product design, streamline supply chains, and the competitive advantage of our technology stack, particularly for our lithium solutions. As part of this evolution, we have rescoped the strategy for our lithium cell factory in Greenville, South Carolina, With an increased focus on applications for customers that value secure, domestic, FEOC-compliant supply chains, particularly within aerospace and defense markets, the growing need for electrification across defense platforms, drones, counter-drone systems, and soldier power applications continues to reinforce the strategic importance of trusted U.S.-based battery manufacturing capabilities. We have made meaningful progress in discussions with the Department of Energy regarding our revised plan and are now in the final stages of the grant process. Our updated approach leverages more established and commercially proven cell technology, which we believe significantly de-risks the program, reduces complexity, enables a faster path to production. While we cannot disclose additional details on the planned facility until the award process is complete, We are currently expecting a more focused manufacturing footprint aligned with our competitive advantages and our customer value proposition. As such, we believe that the extra time will ultimately work to our shareholders' advantage. Please turn to slide seven. While the macro environment remains dynamic, we've taken actions needed to manage related exposures. Over the past year, our tariff task force has worked across the business to diversify supply chains, increase sourcing flexibility, and prioritize manufacturing in region for region. Our total tariff exposure remains stable at around 22% of U.S. sourcing and an annualized estimate of around 70 million before mitigations, as we believe additional Section 122 tariffs announced in February will have an impact roughly equal to the reversed IEPA tariffs. We have filed for reimbursement on all IEPA tariffs we are currently able to and begin receiving funds for this month. Those refunds are not included in our guidance and will not be presented in lines of business earnings. We are beginning to see both direct and indirect impacts from the conflict in the Middle East, consistent with what others across our markets are experiencing. Although we do not have operations in that region, we saw some direct impact in the form of elevated freight and other inflationary pressures emerge in the fourth fiscal quarter and would expect to continue as long as the conflict persists. While we are confident in our ability to mitigate those higher costs, there may be some temporary pressure until costs are recovered. The more significant risk remains the effect of heightened economic uncertainty on customer buying patterns, of which we experienced a bit this quarter. Across both trade policy and geopolitical disruption, our focus remains the same, actively manage what we can control, mitigate both direct and indirect costs, and preserve the flexibility to respond as conditions evolve. Please turn to slide eight. All of our end markets are showing encouraging signs, yet conditions remain dynamic. We are seeing strong underlying momentum in data centers, communications, and defense applications, while navigating softer but improving forklift and transportation markets. While volumes are down overall after the strong prior year comp, Q4 posted our highest book to bill in nearly four years at 1.1, with all lines of business Q4 orders outpacing revenue. early signs of improving trends we mentioned in our previous earnings call for motive power and transportation have continued with q4 representing a sequential and year-over-year improvement in orders for both businesses the geopolitical factors that can impact customer purchasing behavior remain but deferred investment in aging fleets and battery replacements is not sustainable thus the strength and order activity we're beginning to see we're cautiously anticipating orders to continue to trend positively gradually increasing through our fiscal 27, with a return to growth expected in both markets as the year progresses, led by motive power. In communications, we saw strong orders and record shipments for our broadband power supplies, driven by continued DOCSIS 4.0 buildup, as the need for additional power is driving network refreshes. We anticipate these encouraging demand trends to persist as customers modernize network infrastructure, replace aging equipment, and invest in more reliable backup power and resiliency capabilities to support growing data traffic and connectivity needs. In data centers, we continue to see healthy demand as customers invest in AI infrastructure and data center expansion. Today's data centers have an increasing need for higher energy density and faster demand response. Our TPPL technology is more suited to these high-rate, short-duration discharges that can exceed the capabilities of traditional lead-acid designs. While a majority of Greenfield data centers are adopting lithium, robust demand remains for lead-acid solutions where we have a leading market position as evidenced by our high-teens fiscal 26 year-on-year growth. Our new data center lithium battery will enable us to capture incremental and accelerating share of wallet while delivering solutions to our customers that best fit their needs regardless of technology. we saw particular order growth in munitions and space this quarter and continue to see robust underlying demand with increasing global defense budgets and a compelling long-term trajectory. We enter fiscal 27 cautiously optimistic around the broader demand environment while continue to focus on areas within our control, including executing with ongoing operational rigor, driving manufacturing and supply chain efficiencies, and accelerating our targeted high-value new product launch initiatives. Reflecting on my first year as CEO, I am proud of our accomplishments. Our enhanced focus on our core end markets, where our deep customer relationships and leading market share positions afford us the right to win, provides clarity on the targeted growth opportunities where we are doubling down to expand our share of wallet. Enersys is ideally positioned to address global secular trends including limited availability, increasing costs of both energy and labor, AI acceleration, and increasing defense spending, all of which require reliable, integrated stored energy solutions. During our investor day on June 11th, we look forward to sharing an update on our strategic priorities, our technology roadmap, and how our focus team is accelerating our profitable growth opportunities. I want to thank the entire Enersys team for the dedication and execution They bring every day in delivering the solutions and performance our customers depend on. Now I'll turn it over to Andy to discuss our financial results and outlook in greater detail. Andy?

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Sean. Please turn to slide 10. Net sales came in at $988 million, up 1% from prior year, driven by a 4% benefit from price mix, a 3% benefit from foreign currency translation, partially offset by a 6% decrease in organic volume. As a reminder, our prior year Q4 was positively impacted by some customers pulling in volume in advance of the announced tariff. In Q4 26, all lines of businesses saw sequential volume improvement with total company volumes at 7% quarter over quarter. We achieved adjusted gross profit of $292 million, down $12 million or 4% versus a particularly strong prior year period as higher freight, tariffs, and inflationary costs weighed on performance. Q4 26 adjusted gross margin of 29.5% was down 170 basis points with 45X and 190 basis points without 45X versus a very strong prior year comp. Gross margin in the quarter was in line with recent historical averages despite the margin dilution of the pass-through of tariffs and higher freight costs which were up $20 million year-on-year, net of having produced more products in region-for-region. OpEx in the quarter improved as a result of our cost reduction initiatives, with a net reduction of $14 million year-over-year. Our adjusted operating earnings were $154 million in the quarter, up 1% versus the prior year, with an adjusted operating margin of 15.6%, excluding 45x benefits. adjusted operating earnings were roughly flat versus prior year with an adjusted operating margin of 10.9%. Adjusted EBITDA was $173 million, an increase of 6 million or 3% versus prior year with adjusted EBITDA margin of 40 basis points. Excluding 45X, adjusted EBITDA was $126 million, up $3 million or 3% year-on-year, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 12.8%, up 20 basis points from the prior year. Adjusted diluted EPS was a record of 319 per share, a 7% increase over prior year, which had been our previous record earnings. Excluding 45X, adjusted EPS was $1.96, also a record of 5% versus prior year. Our Q426 effective tax rate was 22% on an as-reported basis, higher than prior periods on a one-time impact from restructuring and tax law changes, and 20.4% on an as-adjusted basis before the benefit of 45X compared to 18.9% in Q425 and 22.4% in the prior quarter on geographical mix of earnings, which can vary quarter to quarter. We expect our full-year tax rate on an as-adjusted basis before the benefit of 45X for fiscal year 2027 to be in the range of 21.5% to 23.5%. Full-year net sales of $3.8 billion, an all-time high, were up 4% year-over-year. We generated adjusted operating earnings of $540 million, including $159 million benefit from IRC 45X tax credits. Excluding the 45x benefits, we generated record adjusted operating profit of $382 million and realized our highest full-year adjusted operating margin at 10.2%. Adjusted diluted EPS was $10.56 per share, an increase of 4%, and adjusted diluted EPS before 45x benefits was a record $6.41 per share, an increase of 82 cents versus prior year. Let me now provide details by segment. Please turn to slide 11. In the fourth quarter, energy systems revenue increased 7% from prior year to $426 million, driven by strong price mix, a positive FX impact, and volume growth in power electronics. Adjusted operating earnings increased 23% from prior year to $42 million, primarily reflecting the benefits of favorable price mix from a richer mix of products and OPEX savings from our restructuring efforts. Adjusted operating margin of 10% increased 130 basis points versus prior year, bolstered by record sales of our flagship XM products, which we expect to continue, although perhaps not at the elevated levels we saw in Q4. Longer term, We anticipate continued data center growth and ongoing network investments to support incremental data traffic stemming from AI, both of which we are well positioned to benefit from, although the project nature of this business can cause fluctuations quarter to quarter. Mode of power revenue decreased 6% from prior year to $370 million, with lower volumes from ongoing market softness, partially offset by FX tailwinds and favorable price mix. Motive Power adjusted operating earnings were $53 million, down 21% from prior year, resulting in adjusted operating margins of 14.2%, or a 280 basis point decline versus prior year. OPEX savings and improvements in price mix were offset by lost leverage on lower volume and higher freight and tariff costs. Maintenance-free product sales were 30.4% of Motive Power revenue mix, compared to 29.3% in Q4 fiscal 25. Longer term, Motive Power remains well positioned for growth, supported by electrification, automation, and strong demand for maintenance-free and charger solutions. Specialty revenue increased 8% from prior year to $192 million, driven by favorable price mix, particularly in A&E, early contributions from the Rebel acquisition, and FX tailwinds, partially offset by lower transportation volumes. Specialty adjusted operating earnings were $18 million, up 20% versus prior year, driven by continued strong performance in our A&D business. Adjusted operating margin of 9.4% increased 90 basis points year over year, while being impacted by lower transportation volumes, indicative of the market dynamics we previously discussed. While transportation sales were down high single digits, Orders were up over 30% year-on-year, providing indications of an early but bumpy start to the recovery in demand. We continue to have confidence in reaching sustained mid- to high-teens margin performance within this segment, although the progression may not always be linear due to the timing of recovery in transportation and project nature of A&D. Please turn to slide 12. Operating cash flow of $144 million, offset by CapEx of $13 million, resulted in strong free cash flow of $131 million in the quarter, an increase of $26 million versus the prior year same period. Free cash flow conversion in the quarter was 170%. Excluding the benefit of 45X to earnings and cash, free cash flow conversion was 459%. For the full year, free cash flow was $468 million with conversion of 159%. Excluding 45X, Free cash flow was also in presses at 236%. Our Q4 and full year cash flow conversions were elevated in part by accrued expenses recognized in our GAAP earnings related to the cost optimization initiatives we undertook this year. Primary operating capital decreased to $877 million versus $932 million in the prior year on improved receivable collections and inventory efficiency. measured internally by POC as a percentage of annualized sales, improving 170 basis points versus prior year after absorbing the impact of tariffs and tariff pass-through in both our inventory and accounts receivable balances. As we continue to invigorate our operating model, our COEs are focused on further enhancing working capital discipline, which we expect will unlock additional value for our shareholders over time. As of March 31st, 2026, we had $440 million of cash and cash equivalents on hand. Net debt of $684 million represents a decrease of approximately $100 million since the end of fiscal 25. Our leverage ratio of 1.1 times EBITDA remains well below our target range of two to three times. Please turn to slide 13. Capital expenditures were $13 million in the quarter. ending fiscal year 26 with $80 million in spend and an expectation of about $70 million in fiscal year 27 as we've completed our heavier investments in TPPL capacity flexibility and we continue to selectively focus on the highest return, highest impact investments. During the fourth quarter, we purchased 410,000 shares for $69 million at an average price of approximately $171 per share. We also paid $9.6 million in dividends. We have approximately $876 million in our buyback authorization as of May 20th. We continue to be judicious in our share buyback activity. Our buybacks, in addition to the dividend, underscore our longstanding commitment to returning value to our shareholders with a total of $409 million returned during the year. Please turn to slide 14. As we look ahead to fiscal year 2027, we are encouraged by the strength we are seeing in data centers, communications, and aerospace and defense. We maintain cautious optimum forklifts and Class 8 transportation as we've started to see encouraging demand conditions and anticipate seeing volume recovery improving through the year. Our Q1 outlook reflects typical seasonality with strength in price mix and continued benefits from our energized strategic framework but also lingering market hesitation and forklifts in transportation in response to the macro environment. For the first quarter of fiscal 2027, we expect net sales in the range of $915 million to $955 million, with adjusted diluted EPS of $2.80 to $2.90 per share, which includes $42 million to $47 million of 45x benefits to cost of sales. Excluding 45X, we expect adjusted diluted EPS of $1.61 to $1.71 per share. For the full year, we continue to expect adjusted operating earnings growth, excluding 45X benefits, to outpace revenue growth supported by ongoing OPEX discipline, sustained price mixed strength, and strong or improving markets across our businesses. We remain focused on strength and execution operational rigor, and driving long-term shareholder value. While the broader macro environment continues to present some variability in certain end markets, we are encouraged by the momentum we are seeing across the entire company. We believe the actions we have taken to simplify the organization, improve manufacturing and supply chain efficiency, and prioritize high return growth initiatives have positioned the company well for the future. Supported by our strong balance sheet, healthy cash flow generation, and disciplined capital allocation, we remain confident in our strategy and our ability to capitalize on long-term opportunities and deliver incremental shareholder value. We look forward to sharing more with you at our upcoming Investor Day, three weeks from today at the New York Stock Exchange. With this, let's open it up for questions. Operator?

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Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question at this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. And again, please limit to one question and one follow-up. And our first question comes from the lineup, Noah Kay with Oppenheimer. Noah, please go ahead.

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Noah Kay
Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question, Will. Good morning. You know, I was looking back at last year's 4Q presentation, just thinking through the comps, and, you know, I then took a little time to read the strategic priorities that were laid out at the time, and so I'll just start off by saying, you know, nice job in the first year, folks. I just want to acknowledge that. Thank you so much. Thank you. A question on energy systems. So, you know, I think the The point that you called out about the tough prior year comp on volumes is well taken, right? Volumes were up 8% last year. But just trying to understand how still we got to kind of flat volumes this year, given the comments around record XM shipments and what I assume was continued strength in data center. Just where were there any offsets? And then I think going forward, I mean, you know, volume comps are still, you know, a bit elevated for the next couple of quarters. So, you know, how are you thinking about kind of the profile of growth as we move into fiscal 27?

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, good morning, Noah. I'll be happy to take that. Thanks. Yeah, I think the thing that's important to keep in mind with energy systems is it's very much a project business. So while we look at our growth and there's a lot of opportunities to continue to grow, it's not always going to be linear quarter to quarter. If you look at data centers in the fourth quarter, it was actually flat year on year because we had a very strong Q4 of last year. So for the full year, we're up really high single digits. But it was just a tough comp on the data center piece that drug down, even though we know on an ongoing basis, I think we shared, we've got 36% higher orders year on year. So the momentum is certainly strong. I think it's just the project nature. And keep in mind also, Q4 of last year was right after tariffs were announced. And so it was before they were in effect. And as we said last year on the call too, we think there was some pull in of orders that came into Q4 of last year that also made that Q4 comp a little bit of a tough comp.

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

No, for me, you know, I would only add to that, while, you know, a step back in volume is never something to celebrate for sure, where I give my team internally a lot of credit. You know, I've been in the Enersys universe since 2003, so prior to the IPO, and I couldn't remember, and I asked the team, did they ever remember a time where the company could set records and do what we did with motive power being in a recessionary position. And we couldn't think of any. So we really feel good about the company's ability to continue to deliver for shareholders, even with such a primary segment for us taking a step back. But to your point, every bit of our focus is on growth. And we believe we have a lot of really good sales in the wind to generate that.

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Noah Kay
Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.

Okay, thanks. And then, you know, Sean, I'm sure this is going to be a big focus at Investor Day. But, you know, I noticed in both the press release and prepared remarks the phrase in commissioning referring to both the data center UPS product and warehouse bests. Just to kind of put a little bit of a point on that, the difference between customer validation and customer commissioning, is there anything that we should read into that in terms of commercial readiness? Because when I think about commissioning, I think about a product actually being deployed in the field, going through commissioning and recognizing revenue. So we'd just love to kind of understand what exactly has been going on.

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, that's a great question. And, you know, you're right about the, you know, sort of the, you know, connotative differences in those words. We actually, when we set out to deploy this product a year ago, didn't exist a year ago, we said, listen, we're not going to do something like an engineering launch or a soft launch. You know, we've set our team that they don't get any credit unless they're shipping a product to a customer. So that's exactly what we've done. So in this case, you could see it both ways, validation and commissioning. They're using that battery. But we have a lot of work to do. And the reason we've tempered, you know, that you won't see revenue lift until fiscal, you know, meaningful revenue lift until fiscal 28th. You know, we have the OEM handoffs to get done, the communication. So it's not just one, you know, OEM GPS. It's the, you know, there's all the large primary providers, you know, the names you would know. We need to make sure that they feel comfortable with the communication there. And then on top of that, you know, you have the large hyperscalers have their own validation process for the product. So there's a lot of work to do once you've shipped a product. So that should help kind of offer a little clarity there. But we are – it is not a – It's not an A sample or a B sample. We've shipped a finished product to the customer.

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Noah Kay
Analyst at Oppenheimer & Co.

That's super helpful. I'll turn it over.

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Operator

Thanks, Noah. And your next question comes from the line of Greg Lewis with BDIG. Greg, please go ahead.

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Greg Lewis
Analyst at BDIG

Yeah, hi. Thank you, and thanks for taking my questions. I was hoping to talk a little bit about, you know, your outlook for the data center opportunity. I guess a couple questions. As we think about the fourth quarter, I'm always like, I know we talk about it sometimes sequentially, sometimes year over year. Any sense to think about what that growth rate is looking like? And then just as we continue to think about the data center opportunity, at least in other suppliers to this industry, mega trend you know some of the things we've been hearing is you know some of the the gating factors around um the ability to to sell product is is kind of supply chain so kind of just be curious how you're thinking about positioning the supply chain um and and kind of how that's been playing out just just given the you know exponential growth we're seeing in this opportunity

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I'll start and I'll turn it over to Andy for growth rates, Greg. Thank you for joining us. We have spent a lot of time and energy and, you know, getting ready to perform in the area of TPPL. And this product, the way that it performs gives a, you know, you're sort of knocking on the bottom edge of a lithium-like experience without any of the inherent risks of lithium And, uh, what's something that standard lead calcium can't do where the old lead technology can't do, uh, is, is answer these high demand rates. So sub five minute rates in some cases, some one minute rates, because they don't have the surface area reactivity, not to get too technical. So anyway, we've, we've built in that, uh, that, uh, capacity. And, uh, you know, we may have had other reasons for, for building in that capacity in past times, but, but it's, it's lends itself perfectly. to this product, and that's an area of very high growth we're seeing, before we even talk about launching our lithium battery. So we feel very good about that supply chain. We also, you know, one of the things that we talked about on the call is the amount of dry powder that Enersys enjoys. And when we talk to our customers and we talk to the supply base, what we're finding is that Some of these items like lithium batteries in the cells are places of origin. They're very long supply chains, but it's compounded by folks that aren't putting that sort of investment together to make sure that they're getting more to these shores and are able to react to customer issues. We're spending a lot of time making sure that's in place. It's on our strategic roadmap, and we feel very good at the moment about barring any more wars and weird places or further supply shocks, we feel very good about our position to be able to deliver once we have validation on those products.

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, and Greg, I'll just continue a little bit with that as well. What actually we hear is one of the biggest gating factors to the new DCs is power availability, which I think what's exciting about that is that just adds to the strength and the value proposition we have with our BESF systems that we're planning on launching. and just the importance of energy storage overall as the world is facing these power shortages. That said, in data centers, as I mentioned, we're up high teens, mid-high teens this year. And actually, if Q4 of last year was normalized as far as the percentage of total revenue, it would have been the same in Q4. So again, there's a little bit of choppiness because of the project nature. As you know, we're just selling the lead acid batteries, which have, you know, I would say on an ongoing basis, it might be more like high single to low double digit growth opportunities. But then as our lithium offering that Sean just described begins to add, none of that is cannibalistic. That's just additional share of wallet in a fast growing market. So we're very excited about the opportunities going forward.

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Greg Lewis
Analyst at BDIG

Okay, super helpful. And then realizing that, um, that, um, you know, you called out some of the headwinds in, in mode of, um, power and on the transport and the, and the forklift side, you know, you know, that being said, um, you know, book, the bill went back over one orders were up. Um, so just kind of curious, is that kind of the early signs that, that things are getting better is maybe part of that spike in orders in the book, the bill is some of that just seasonality as we start the year.

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

i think we're seeing a lot of green shoots we're seeing a lot of positive activity what we don't know and we're why we say we're cautiously often optimistic we don't have any operations in places like the middle east that uh where we're worried about you know a direct threat to revenue there but you know these these businesses uh motive power and transportation that are that have you know tend to correlate not not perfectly tend to correlate with gdp You know, we don't know what these things do long-term to GDP, energy prices, that sort of thing. So we're, you know, all of our demand signals look good. If you've looked at the public remarks of some of the forklift manufacturers that, you know, were down, you know, mid-teens over the course of the year, they're all seeing green shoots and expect strengthening throughout the year. So at this time, we see that coming as well, and we know from talking to our customers that they delayed purchases to kind of let this situation in time work itself out. So we have seen pent-up demand. We know that that is one of those things that can't be delayed forever, those purchases. So we're, again, cautiously optimistic, but we do see improving trends throughout the year.

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, and Greg, I can just give you a little bit of data to back that. While our sales were up 5% sequentially, down 9% year-on-year. It's a frustration. Our orders were up sequentially 19%. Motive power is just not a segment I worry about. I think there's a little bit of reaction to the macro going on, but looking forward, we expect some sequential seasonal Q1 step back in volume. That normally happens, but we think that actually could be muted if the early recovery begins to start taking place. I think as a result, Q1 could look a lot like Q4, which is not normal within Motive Power. We should have growth coming from there. And then longer term, the opportunities that we have on things like our Motive Power BESS, which we're more and more convinced there's just a compelling opportunity there. There's going to be a lot of opportunity there, which will also spur some incremental 45X as well. And this year, we'll begin to benefit from the Monterey closure. which should impact, again, both 45X as well as some savings within that segment.

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Greg Lewis
Analyst at BDIG

Okay, great. Super helpful. Thank you very much.

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spk00

Thanks.

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Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Brian Trapp with William Blair & Company. Brian, please go ahead.

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Brian Trapp
Analyst at William Blair & Company

Thanks for taking my question. Andy, first, I think you just said that the first quarter for Motive could look a lot like the fourth quarter. Is that right? And do you mean, so would we then expect volume to be up in the first quarter for motor?

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

You know, we don't, I don't know, Brian, if you know, we don't give that specific of guides, but, you know, I think generally speaking, it's, you know, it's just encouraging. We're beginning to see the early signs of this recovery. Whether it happens kind of late Q1, early Q2, it's a little hard to tell, but, you know, you can see we've got the strength and the order growth And I'm optimistic. It just can't be that disconnected from GDP. And I think there's a pen of demand that we're going to start to unwind as well.

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Brian Trapp
Analyst at William Blair & Company

Yeah, okay. It's challenging to model because looking back at industry orders, we talked about industry orders in the December quarter being up 40% for forklifts, and then the volume was your business was down 10% in the fourth quarter. Everyone's trying to figure out, you know, does this business get back to growth in terms of volume in the next fiscal year?

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

And I would say, I think we called that out as well. We do see that before the ending of this year, it's going to be a return to growth. You know, I'm confident in that. It is true that a lot of the normal indicators that we look at are, you know, a little bit out of balance. There's choppiness in it. And I think a lot of that is customer-mind behavior reactions to a lot of the macro volatility. But this is a good business. What we feel good about is that the volume decrease we had is less than what we see in the overall market. And the market can become disconnected from GDP. So there's some pent-up demand being created.

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Brian Trapp
Analyst at William Blair & Company

Okay, thanks. And then maybe just one more follow-up for now. Can you just go through the current situation with the lithium initiatives and lithium product rollout? You know, you're going after data center and, you know, warehouse and that with lithium. But the lithium plant is still in the works. And it sounds like the cells coming out of the lithium plant are going to be at least an area of focus is defense. talk about drones and mobile soldier power being, you know, the source of demand for those cells. So I guess I'm just wondering, like, currently, where are the cells coming from for your lithium products, and how do you transition that over to the new plant, and when eventually, I guess?

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so good morning, Brian and Sean. Thank you for joining us. Good to hear your voice. Yeah, so just to offer a little clarity there, you know, Enersys today makes nine chemistries of lithium batteries throughout our aerospace and defense complex. We also buy lithium batteries. And for us, with some of the larger lithium supply chains in the world, we will always do a make versus buy analysis because there's no one perfect chemistry, even within lithium, for every application. And we've, NRSYS for the entirety of our evolution, even in lead, have modified the lead chemistries to support different applications. In this case, because the cell is a part of a larger system, and the solution that that system is providing is the point, we, it becomes even more muted, you know, whether the cell origin is NRSYS or outside. So that'll be make versus buy. So in some of these commercial applications where we're using these cells that are ubiquitous or readily available in the world, they still have Asian supply chains where they are originating in places like China. And for the foreseeable future, that'll continue. I think if you looked at the constituent raw materials 99% of the lithium iron phosphate constituent material supply chain is either in or owned by China, 99% in the world. Meaning if a battery was built in South Korea or Japan or in Detroit, that constituent material supply chain still originates there or if the cell is finished in China. So it's just a fact in the world that we're going to navigate until we can get that migrated over. The Greenville plant is for aerospace and defense, and we have a customer there that's willing to pay for value, that is willing to pay to guarantee supply, domestic supply. And it won't be subject to something like EV cell battery pricing in the world. So we have a much better de-risked position there. Those cells will be purpose-built for those applications. And so it'll make a lot of sense there. There is downstream potential. There are areas of the market that we don't yet play in in data center that those cells could have an application for. But for now, we're going to continue to buy those cells and incorporate for data center and BESS and incorporate into our end systems until there's a point that it doesn't make sense to do that.

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Brian Trapp
Analyst at William Blair & Company

Okay, great. That's really helpful. Thanks, Sean. Thanks, Andy.

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

You're welcome. Thanks, Frank.

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Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Chip Moore with Odd Capital. Chip, please go ahead.

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Chip Moore
Analyst at Odd Capital

Hey, good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking the question. Hey, I wanted to ask, you know, maybe follow up there around aerospace defense. I think you called out some pretty strong demand, and I think it was munitions and but just any more color around what you're seeing there and forward trends moving through the year.

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so I'll start, Chip, and then I'll turn it over to Andy for what we're dimensioning. But our backlog continues to grow in areas like munitions. You only have to open Wall Street Journal and see what's going on in the world and what position the financial Defense Department is with the, you know, expended munitions and some of these programs. And we are, there's only a couple of people in the world that make those batteries. So, and we have this advanced technology in our lithium silicon cobalt disulfide, which is the highest energy you can get. And, you know, real estate's at a real premium on a defensive standoff weapon. So they need higher power in the same space and we can give it to them. So we're seeing robust demand there. We're seeing robust demand in soldier power. We continue to see, you know, Brentronics impress us and do a great job. The Rebel acquisition that we made, you know, the hybridized power systems, the future of the battlefield is electrified. And now the concern is how do we get the ability to charge rechargeable drones at the forward edge of battle, and the Rebel hyper system is right in the center of that conversation. So we're seeing excellent demand signals there. We're seeing excellent demand signals in our space battery business, where we've got, you know, 15 billion hours or so in space without a single flaw, and the team's done a great job there. And what we've done is we've come up with the answer to Pete Hesget's desire to have commercially read available products. The team got very smart about a year ago and came together and made some standardized products that would reduce the cost and increase the speed going into satellite programs, and they're benefiting from that now. So really across the board. And then one of the things that have surprised us, we're seeing equal demand in the European theater to some of the demand signals in the United States. That's never happened as long as I've been with Enersys. And it speaks to, you know, some of the other allied military stepping up and making those investments. So we really feel good about this space.

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I could just add a little bit of color to that too, Chip. You know, in A&D, our revenue was up mid-20%, both year-on-year and sequentially, with orders up sequentially about the same. Yeah, project nature of this business can cause some fluctuations. That's important to note, both in volume and mix. But, you know, the orders are really strong, as Sean mentioned, particularly munitions and space with their book to bill at 1.22. And while munitions backlog are increasing, we're going to really start seeing that translation to revenue and liquid reserves throughout fiscal 27 and thermal batteries to follow late this year. It is really a hot topic. The industry as a whole is working to increase capacity, and we're really uniquely positioned. So this is just an extremely exciting business to be in right now. Other thing I'd mention is the acquisitions are just going phenomenal. We're seeing some lift as well, looking at synergies, particularly in EMEA of these two businesses put together, as well as in the U.S. So good things ahead of us.

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Chip Moore
Analyst at Odd Capital

That's great. Super helpful. And look forward to hearing about Greenville as well. Maybe for my follow-up, maybe just more on the modeling side, you know, some of these inflationary pressures you talked about, seen some impacts there, obviously. Just, you know, talk about lags, you know, and sort of offsets with mix and some of the productivity benefits that are rolling through. Thanks.

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Andy Funk
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure, Tip, and I assume you're talking about overall. One thing I couldn't be more proud of, one of the first things Sean did when he took over as CEO is put together this dedicated task force. We're all over this. So we were early starts for filing for the refund because we got all the data, we got the playbook. This team then quickly was split on to the conflict that we have in the Middle East, trying to understand the impact, anticipate it, make sure we're doing the right mitigating activities. If you look at our Q4 year-on-year tariffs and free, we're up about $20 million. That's a pretty big number to absorb, confident that we were fully able to offset the pricing. When inflation first kicks in, you know, it might take a – sometimes it takes a quarter until you get normalized with the price pass-through, but, you know, because you've got the inventory flowing off and you've got orders already on your books. But we've done a tremendous job managing it. We see – probably this quarter, you know what? We look to say, how has the macro impacted us? My guess is it's not been overly material, but if this conflict hadn't happened, our results probably would have been a little bit better. We got maybe a couple million dollars of some higher costs directly related to the conflict that we saw. And again, we're on top of it. So I feel good about the outlook going forward.

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Chip Moore
Analyst at Odd Capital

Excellent. Thanks very much.

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Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Sean O'Connell for closing remarks. Sean?

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Sean O'Connell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you. Also, I'd like to thank everybody for joining us today and participating in our results. It was our pleasure speaking with you, and we look forward to talking with you soon. Thank you.

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Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.

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