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spk01
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the EQP third quarter 2020 quarterly results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Andrew Briggs, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead, sir.
spk03
Good morning, and thank you for joining today's conference call. With me today are Toby Rice, President and Chief Executive Officer, and David Connie, Chief Financial Officer. The replay for today's call will be available on our website for a seven-day period beginning this evening. The telephone number for the replay is 1-800-585-8367 with a confirmation code of 897-1226. In a moment, Toby and David will present the prepared remarks with a question and answer session to follow. An updated investor presentation is available on the investor relations portion of our website, which we may reference certain slides during this discussion. I'd like to remind you that today's call may also contain forward-looking statements. Actual results, future events could materially differ for these forward-looking statements because of the factors described in today's earnings release and in the risk factors section of our Form 10-K for the year end, December 31, 2019, and in subsequent filings we make with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements. Today's call may also contain certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to this morning's earnings release and our most recent investor presentation for important disclosure regarding such measures, including reconciliations of the most comparable GAAP financial measures. And with that, I'll turn it over to Toby.
spk05
Thanks, Andrew, and good morning, everyone. Today, I look forward to providing an update on the business and how we've progressed with our strategic initiatives. But first, I'd like to jump right into the positive results of the third quarter. The momentum that we experienced during the transformational first year of managing this company has continued in the third quarter, which was another impressive quarter both operationally and financially. We delivered sales volumes of 366 BCFE, which was in line with our original guidance range, despite 15 BCF that we strategically curtailed at the beginning of September and through the remainder of the quarter. On the well cost front, we continue to realize improvements in operational performance, delivering well costs of $660 per foot on our Pennsylvania Marcellus asset. Third quarter well costs were $20 per foot lower than last quarter, 10% lower than target, and 22% lower than just one year ago. This continued progression gives us increasing confidence and makes our future development plan that much more compelling as we continue to find ways to increase performance and enhance results. We continue to do more with less, and that is apparent in our third quarter CapEx spend of $248 million, which is $227 million below the same period last year and $55 million below last quarter. The efficiencies that we continue to see in both drilling and completions substantiate the CapEx improvements. With less than 20% of the year-to-date cost improvements being attributable to service cost deflation, these are truly sustainable cost reductions. On the drilling side, we've seen roughly 20% improvement in horizontal drilling speeds quarter over quarter and roughly 60% year over year, which was accomplished through the continued application of best practices executed by the same crews guided by a stable operation schedule. On the completion side, our electric track fleets are really hitting their stride, improving pumping hours and stages per month by approximately 15%, respectively quarter over quarter. In addition to our electric faculty accomplishments, our teams have continued to find ways to streamline our operations. These efforts include automating processes that were previously manual, employing new technologies to increase the reliability, efficiency, and safety of our operations, utilizing centralized operating systems, taking data that was once siloed and fragmented and turning it into easily accessible and usable data to drive better decision-making and improve performance. Put simply, we are leaving no stone unturned to find ways to improve the performance of this business. The continued outperformance has resulted in positive revisions to certain full-year 2020 guidance at the midpoint, including an increase to production of 15 BCFE and a decrease in capital expenditures of $50 million. This represents the fourth time we have reduced our 2020 capital guidance for a total of $275 million, or 20% of the original budget, all while delivering more volumes, even considering strategic curtailments. After accounting for a slight widening in expected differentials, this will drive an expected improvement of $25 million in free cash flow. As we continue our financial and operational transformation, we do so with a heightened focus on our commitment to corporate responsibility and transparency. We recently launched our revamped ESG report focused on our evolution as a company, enhanced leadership directives, our operational strategy, and the implementation of our mission, vision, and values, all aimed at becoming the operator of choice for all stakeholders and the clear ESG leader in the natural gas industry. Before I get into highlights of the report, it's important to spend a little time on the criticality of natural gas to the energy mix of the future. You will see on slide 24 of our investor presentation, EQT's operations have the second lowest emissions intensity of nearly 40 surveyed domestic and global E&P companies during the period. Our peers in Appalachia perform at similar levels. Looking specifically at gas producers, you'll see on slide 25 that of the top 10 U.S. natural gas producers, Appalachian players produce approximately 60% more gas with 70% lower emissions intensity. What excites me about this data is the differentiation of natural gas, and in particular, Appalachian natural gas. The reliability, availability, and cost benefits of natural gas are unquestionable. And we think as people start to look at the data, there will be a decoupling of natural gas from other fossil fuels as it pertains to environmental and socioeconomic benefits. Turning to our ESG report, you will see that we have provided a detailed framework on how we think about our business and how all the pieces are aligned to execute on a cohesive operational corporate and ESG strategy. Our impacts on the ESG side of things are principally an output of operating in an informed, supported, and purpose-driven manner. In our report, we highlight, among other things, the significant environmental benefits of our combo development strategy, how integrating ESG into our digital work environment improves data collection, analysis, and reporting, our commitment to operating safely while utilizing the highest standards to protect and mitigate impacts in the environment, investments made in our local communities, including over $29 million in contributions in the form of infrastructure improvements, grants, scholarships, and sponsorships, and steps we are taking to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, which have decreased 23% compared to 2018. I encourage you to review our report, which can be found on our investor relations website. Shifting gears, I would like to talk about the compelling macro natural gas setup. There are several main points that drive our multi-year bullish thesis. In the near term, supply and demand will continue to tighten as weather demand overcomes the storage overhang. Core acres within the gassy regions are continuing to be drilled up, leaving Tier 2 and Tier 3 inventory that can only be economically drilled at materially higher strip. And lastly, total U.S. rig counts and completion crews have fallen by approximately 65% since the beginning of the year. In Appalachia, there would need to be about 30% more rigs to keep production flat, and in Haynesville, that number is about 15% more rigs. In the medium term, within the industry, there was approximately $115 billion of debt due from now until 2023. which has forced producers to focus on corporate returns and fixing their balance sheets rather than growing production. In the long term, we believe there will be a sustainable and long-term global call on U.S. natural gas. We anticipate that long-term U.S. demand will increase, driven by coal and nuclear retirements, partially offset by renewable builds, and long-term global demand will increase, driven by economic development in the developing countries. The favorable macro dynamics, as well as continued execution of our operational and financial strategies, optimally positions EQT to capitalize on this setup and outperform peers. The forward curve for 21 has moved up into the $3 level, and the 22 curve is now in the low 270s. Although important indicators, this will not cause EQT to add growth in 2021, as the curve is still too low and backward-dated. We are focused on running an efficient business plan aimed at increasing NAV per share driven by efficiency gains and not growth. We believe that one of the most important drivers of value creation for our shareholders is getting our assets valued at a long-term price deck that is closer to $3 as opposed to $2.50. And looking at the strip, there is clearly a need for more discipline from EQT and all other operators to achieve this. I'd now like to pass the call over to Dave to further discuss some of our financial and strategic highlights. Thanks, Toby.
spk08
First, I'd like to start by briefly providing some color on the production curtailment that we implemented during the quarter. The curtailment was initiated on September 1st and remained shut in for the entire month. We began a phased approach to bringing these volumes back online at the beginning of October, and all production has returned to sales. The driver for the curtailment program was a material price arbitrage between September and winter 2020 pricing and beyond. As we continue to outperform operationally, we're able to defer those extra volumes to be monetized in a much more attractive future price environment. Additionally, we hedge this production to lock in favorable pricing and the attractive economics, which provides a triple-digit IRR. In all, the impact of the curtailment was 15 BCF. That came out of our third quarter while we were still able to deliver volumes near the midpoint of our guidance range. Going forward, we will continue to use curtailment strategically to capture incremental value when the opportunity presents itself. This segues nicely into the hedging activity that we recently completed. During the third quarter, the 2021 strip store increased volatility but ultimately moved higher, currently sitting just above $3. As prices were rising, we were opportunistically adding 2021 hedges during the period to lock in value and protect downside risk. with two key goals in mind. First, the ability to pay off our remaining $900 million of 2021 and 2022 debt with free cash flow and our E-Train equity stake. And secondly, lock-in investment grade metrics. With this hedge position and a strong 2021 and rising 2022 strip, we believe we've achieved these key milestone goals. As the largest producer of natural gas, our hedge program in a broad sense is set to provide downside protection while capturing the upside. While it would be better to capture 100% upside from rising prices, it is prudent for us to take the risk away from associated with a warmer-than-normal winter, longer-lasting impacts from COVID, and higher-than-expected oil prices. While initiating forward hedges, we take a surgical approach aimed at targeting the higher-risk seasonal periods, resulting in more risk protection in the volatile summer months while leaving more upside in the winter months to be hedged over time. Since June 30th, we have added approximately 350 million decatherms of 2021 swaps at $2.90 and 155 million of 2021 collars with a $2.75 decatherm floor and a $3.15 decatherm ceiling. As a result, we now have approximately 72% of our 2021 expected production hedge, assuming maintenance level production, up from the 40% at the end of the second quarter. During the quarter, we also experienced some regional price volatility and widening of local basis. A strong fundamental team saw this coming back in May, and as a result, we put on a robust basis hedge position for the fall of 2020 for Dominion South and Tecko M2 at a spread of approximately negative 90 cents to Henry Hub. Ultimately, differentials blew out to over negative $1.55, and we were insulated for much of that exposure. Although heavily protected, the significant basis winding during the period did push our third quarter differentials towards the weaker end of guidance, coming in at a negative 48 cents per mcf. This takes me to a quick overview of our third quarter financial results. As mentioned before, we're able to be within our guidance range for both sales volumes and average differentials at 366 bcfe and a negative 48 cents per mcf, respectively. Our adjusted operating revenues for the quarter were $853 million, and our total operating costs per unit were $1.44 per MCFE. Operating costs per MCFE were negatively impacted during the third quarter by the strategic volume curtailments, In addition, for the third quarter of 2020, adjusted SG&A per MCFE increased as compared to the same period in 2019 due to the higher incentive compensation expense resulting from changes in the value of our awards, which exceeded the favorable impact of our personnel costs from reduction in workforce. As Toby mentioned earlier, we came in below our internal expectations on capital expenditures at $248 million due to continued operational outperformance. Our adjusted operating cash flow for the quarter was $295 million, which led to a positive free cash flow of approximately $47 million. Shifting gears, I'd like to update everyone on the progress we have made on the debt fund. In July, we received a $202 million tax refund, including interest, that we used to repurchase approximately $102 million of our 4 and 7-8 senior notes due in 2021. As of September 30th, our net debt was $4.7 billion, which is roughly $100 million higher than the second quarter. This increase was driven by roughly $245 million of borrowings on a revolver for margin deposits associated with the over-the-counter derivatives and exchange-traded gas contracts. These deposits are reported as a current asset in our balance sheet. Importantly, these margin posting requirements change with commodity price movements and, with respect to the over-the-counter derivatives, our credit ratings. Accordingly, our margin deposits will significantly decrease with just the one rating increase. which we are aggressively pursuing and naturally improve with rising natural gas prices. We view this as more of a temporary liquidity item rather than a matter of truly impacting our leverage. When adjusting for these margin postings, our net debt decreased quarter over quarter by approximately $145 million to approximately $4.47 billion, implying a 2.81 net debt to adjusting last 12 months EBITDA leverage ratio. To add one more aside to our liquidity position, we have seen increased bank competition to participate in our credit facility, which we view as a testament to our financial strength and a commitment to our responsible capital allocation. Further enhancing our debt reduction plan is another $48 million in tax refunds we expect to receive in the fourth quarter related to the successful appeal of a certain prior year federal taxes paid. Additionally, we're forecasting $85 to $135 million of free cash flow in the fourth quarter. The new tax refund, fourth quarter free cash flow, remaining E-train stake, and a material level of 2021 free cash flow give us high confidence in our ability to achieve our $3.5 to $3.7 billion total debt goal by year-end 2021. This, plus an improving strip, all begs the question about our current credit ratings. Our recent discussions with the rating agencies were positive. We believe we currently sit with investment-grade metrics using the forward curve, which provides us incentive to lock those prices in through hedging. We will continue to pay down debt and hedge more over time, as those are two important things we need to do to reach our investment grade. We firmly believe the macro factors that Toby discussed, along with our continued execution, lay the groundwork for positive rating actions over the next 12 to 18 months. To further support this thesis, I'd like to point you to slide 19 in our investment presentation, which shows EQT's debt trading performance against various investment and non-investment grade indices. As you can see, our debt trades in line with investment grade peers, signaling investors also think of EQT as an investment grade company. I'd like to conclude on any remarks by today by touching on a plan to rationalize our firm transportation portfolio. Constructive conversations continue to take place regarding offloading some or all of our MVP capacity. We do not believe that striking deal is dependent upon MVP being in service and feel that the viability of executing a transaction continues to improve. This is a very important financial catalyst for the company, one of which will drive material improvement to margins of free cash flow. Our team is very focused on this opportunity, and we continue to strive to have something in place at the end of the year. Now I'll turn it over to Toby to wrap things up.
spk05
Thanks, Dave. EQT is uniquely positioned to demonstrate the true value that natural gas can and will bring to the future energy mix of this country. As we continue this transformational journey to realize the full potential of EQT's premier shale assets, our focus will not only be on the financial and operational results we deliver, but on how we achieve those results. Our strategic approach is centered around the culture we create, the technology we utilize, the people executing the plan, and the ultimate impact we have on the environment and communities in which we operate. All of these elements create a cohesive operational, corporate, and ESG-focused strategy being executed with vision and purpose. These foundational elements that we have put in place guide our daily processes and will be what separates EQT from our peers, creating a clear natural gas leader and operator of choice to all stakeholders and ensuring sustainable, long-term value creation. I'd like to thank all our employees for their continued hard work and dedication and everyone in attendance today for their continued interest and support of EQT. And with that, I'll turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.
spk01
As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one on your telephone. To withdraw your question, press the pound or hash key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Josh Silverstein of Wolf Research. Your line is open.
spk08
Thanks. Good morning, guys. Just continuing the thoughts that David had there on MVP. You know, right now it certainly makes sense for you guys to get rid of the hull position given the current basis differentials. But with this potentially being the last pipe out of the basin and the Marcellus likely having a supply pull on it, is there any thought as to keeping some of the capacity there or is it still kind of trying to get rid of it all at this point? Yeah. Hi, this is Dave, Josh. Yeah, we're studying that. And I think just one thing to be careful about, I know basis really blew out a little bit wider than normal. But let's remember that we had a warmer than normal winter and then we were sitting with COVID. And so I think we had a little bit unusual circumstances. But I think we're studying that. We're trying to decide whether we want to keep some of that. And just also remind, we can probably also replicate that to some degree with a sales agreement as opposed to owning all the pipe too. So there's multiple things we're thinking through here. Thanks for that. And then on the VMA side, two things here. You guys still continue to reference asset sales as part of the debt reduction strategy. So then any thoughts there and then obviously you guys have been uh you know rumored to be in discussions with the chevron assets but you might not be able to you know share much there if there's any detail you can provide around the production base or the acreage footprint that would be helpful sure josh on the on the non-strategic asset sales um you know we've been pretty consistent on messaging there i mean the the biggest gap for us was the bid-ask spread largely driven by
spk05
COMMODITY PRICE USED TO VALUE THE ASSET. SO WE'VE SAID AS THE STRIP MATERIALIZES TO OUR VIEW, WHICH IS SORT OF CLOSER TO WHERE WE'RE AT That bid-ask spread closes on those non-strategic assets, so we'll continue to evaluate any potential offers on those as they come in. Then on the M&A front, yeah, we're not going to speak about specific deals, but continue to believe that anything we would ever look at would have to be a good strategic fit at the right value and accretive on a free cash flow per share and that basis. Fantastic.
spk01
Your next question comes from Aaron Jaram of JPMorgan Chase. Your line is open.
spk06
Yeah, Toby, Dave, I was wondering if we could start maybe with an update on the Hammerhead system and if you've exercised your option to purchase the system. I think the agreement called for a 12% discount. And maybe just give us some thoughts on where you stand with E-Train on this dispute.
spk08
Yeah, one, I think we're not going to comment much on it. I think we might put some comment out in our tent queue at the end of the day today so you can take a look at it. But I think we're going to be very. more silent on this and just know that our goal is to you know always to work with our our partner e-train and I think you know we've had disputes in the past and we'll come to some sort of resolution in the future so I just say sort of stay tuned yeah fair enough
spk06
Just my follow-up would be, I was wondering if you could maybe help us unpack the free cash flow guide a little bit. I know there's some moving pieces between called organic free cash flow generation and the notable tax proceeds, but can you help us unpack how much of that 325 free cash flow is kind of from the organic-based business versus taxes? Sure.
spk08
So if you use 325 as the midpoint here, There's about roughly $100 million of tax refund baked in there. So take it down to $225 of organic. And just to remind everybody, we shut in about 65 Bs for this year, roughly. And so that would have been another $65 million, probably, or more of free cash flow. And then we're going to get about, we'll call it, $450 million of tax-free funds on top of that. So that'll give you a sense of the total free cash flow plus tax-free funds that we're able to use to pay down debt.
spk06
Okay. If I could sneak one more in, David, you mentioned the collateral postings this quarter. If you did get a one-notch upgrade, could you just maybe help us think about the magnitude or the improvement of liquidity you get from that?
spk08
Yeah, I would say, you know, it's probably about two-thirds of improvement off that number. And so there's some moving parts in there. You know, we post collateral with different banks. Different banks have different credit levels, and some of the banks have unlimited credit levels. So we move things around a little bit, and then we also use the exchanges. And so the rough number you should think about is about two-thirds.
spk06
That's helpful. Thanks a lot, Jens.
spk08
You're welcome.
spk01
Your next question comes from Scott Hennelt of RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
spk08
Yeah, thanks. I appreciate also your comments on MVP and the status of those negotiations. But can you just, for me, I guess, dumb it down a little bit. What are the key discussion points between you and the counterparties right now And, you know, what really is, I guess, holding it up from getting, you know, some kind of a decision? I know these are very complex negotiations, but if you can help me out and understand, you know, what are some of the kind of back and forth points? Yeah, I just say it's hard. We won't get into a lot of things because, you know, we are in the negotiations. But I'll just say we're negotiating with, like, four or five parties right now. And just understand this is a long-term contract, so everybody wants to make sure they understand their needs. And in some cases, some of the parties who were part of ACP, you know, that was kind of, in some cases, a shock. um, to the system. So that's just understanding what, you know, uh, again, what their long-term needs are. So I think it's, uh, you know, multiple parties, multiple views and long-term contract. And, and, and, and so, uh, it just takes some time. And then I think the last piece is we just want to make sure we understand from our standpoint, how, if we want to keep any. And, um, and so, uh, it just, all that plays into the timing. Okay. And you still think, though, year-end 20 is still a good time for him to think of when you'll have something? Yes. Okay. And my follow-up is just, you know, there's been a flurry of consolidation in this space, and obviously you gave your high-level comments on, you know, asset sales in the market. But, you know, Toby, maybe if you can give us just a view of where you think, like, the Appalachian gas market goes from here in terms of consolidation. I mean, you've seen some from a lot of the oilier players here. Do you think something similar like that is going to happen with the gas players, and how quickly could that evolve?
spk05
Sure. I think, you know, investors certainly have an appetite for companies that can operate at a larger scale, not just simply for the sake of scale, but because there's real value to be created. I think you look at what we've done at EQT, you know, taking advantage of our scale and You know, there's real value that we're creating, whether that means, you know, we get more reps, you know, on the wells that we execute, which gives us more opportunities to improve operational performance. being able to have access to to really cutting edge technology like our electric frac fleets that you can only put in if you have a stable operation schedule um the the benefits of scale you get from having a a large operating footprint and a large gathering system that e-train provides us which gives us access to a lot more markets and then also from uh on the balance sheet side of things having an investment grade uh Credit rating is something that's going to be a differentiator as well. So, I mean, I think investors are right in having the desire for larger scale companies and companies like EQT that can take advantage of that scale and create value for shareholders. I think it's going to be a theme that should be looked for. Thank you.
spk01
Your next question comes from Holly Stewart of Scotia Howard Wheel. Your line is open.
spk00
Thank you. Good morning, gentlemen. Maybe just a couple quick follow-ups to some of the previous questions, you know, to Josh's question on MVP. Dave, can you remind us what your letter of credit postings are for that project?
spk08
Yeah, Holly, we don't break it out by pipeline. I just, you know, we have basically 800 million of letters of credit in place. And again, we don't give it by project.
spk00
Would it come down materially if you optimized that hold?
spk08
It would come down, yes. I guess it depends on what you define as materiel. I think more importantly, as our credit ratings improve, it'll come down. And I think that's probably the bigger, I'd call the bigger driver between the two. Okay. Okay.
spk00
That's helpful. And then maybe, Toby, a follow-up to some of the M&A type of questions. I mean, you highlighted in your prepared remarks how Appalachia stacks up on an ESG perspective. Do you think that this ultimately starts moving through the mindset of producers as we kind of look at the oil M&A market here?
spk05
I mean, I think that ESG could just be another barrier to some of the smaller scale companies. Certainly on the private side, it's just another thing and feature that you need to bolt onto your business. Certainly at ETT with the number of employees and specialists that we have to focus and Improve the performance across all ESG metrics is a benefit you get from a large organization and scale. So I think larger companies have the resources needed to dedicate to improving ESG performance, and ESG performance we think is going to be a differentiator and something that investors care about, and we certainly believe the benefits of a strong ESG performance is going to be a key to long-term value creation for shareholders.
spk00
Okay. Great. And then maybe one final one for me. You know, you've now come in, I think, below your well-cost target two quarters in a row, and obviously now your full-year average is well below that. Can you just talk about, you know, sort of your well-cost trends and then any potential updates to those targets that you see coming?
spk05
Sure. I think just looking at slides 9 through 12 sort of tell the story of You know, where we're at right now is, you know, we continue to produce results that actually, you know, drive value by lowering our well costs. You know, we've sort of gotten past the fix the business phase at EQT and the large, sort of towards the earlier when we got in. Now what you're starting to see is the innovative approach that we have at EQT. So, again, You see that that's driving the operational efficiencies. You know, we've made some pretty big strides still on the drilling side and in the completion side. And really what's driving that is really highlighted on slide 12, which is just the continued application of new technology and leveraging that technology to drive operational efficiencies, which drive well costs. On top of that, I'd say we've been able to lock in some of the service pricing that we have. About 50% of our services are locked in, of our spend is locked in, to provide some sustainability and the well-cost performance that we've been able to demonstrate. So we'll see how much more we can innovate and continue to drive the performance, and I'm encouraged to have an organization that has the ability to evolve and innovate.
spk00
Great. Thanks, guys.
spk08
Thank you.
spk01
Your next question comes from Mark Calucci of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
spk04
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I just want to build on Holly's question, thinking about the standing capital in 2021. So I think it was a year ago you gave a $1.15 billion kind of preliminary number. Just curious, any early thoughts on spending or sort of how much of the savings that you realized were sort of built into that prior target?
spk05
So I would just say that, you know, we continue to walk down our 2020 CapEx and, you know, planning for 2021. capex numbers and we're going to continue a maintenance program and we're going to we would say that probably start with what we're at with 2020 for our maintenance capex is going to be a good starting point for 2021. okay
spk04
And then just to follow up on that, so 80% of the cost savings are sustainable. Can you just comment on that remaining piece, sort of what scenarios would that come back into the cost structure? I guess how long do you have these service costs locked up for?
spk05
Why don't you start? Sure. Yeah, as far as the sustainability, I mean, the operation schedule that we have, the lateral lengths that we're putting out there, the percentage of combos, those things are all increasing. So that's going to – that certainly is very sustainable. That's really what sets the operational teams up to really drive operational efficiencies, which drives costs. So that's a good well design. We're going to continue with the evolved well design that we've been putting in place here. So don't see any changes there. So we have a good idea of what it takes to actually execute these wells, the well design that we have. And the other thing I'd say is from the sustainability part, from a service price perspective, there's my comments on the fact that we've got over 50% of our spend is locked in with service costs. And those are the bigger needle-moving items like frac fleets, things that are more sensitive to moving if you have a rise in activity levels, which, again, you know, we're pretty anemic levels from an activity-level standpoint. You know, with under 300 rigs running in the country, we don't anticipate service pricing to rise materially. because we don't expect activity to rise materially so we feel like we're in a really good position from a cost perspective to make these sustainable great thanks so much guys got it your next question comes from brian singer of goldman sachs your line is open thank you good morning
spk07
I wanted to follow up on the last question there, but really a bit more from a production activity perspective. You mentioned you want to see more long-term price expectations of $3 or so versus $2.50 to increase activity or to have more confidence in doing that. Is the implication then that we should assume you would be producing around fourth quarter type levels through 2021 at the maintenance capital? And if If gas prices are in the longer-dated futures go to three, that's when we would expect more of a ramp-up in activity?
spk05
Yeah, I would say we look at, you know, for us, maintenance capex is the production levels that we're looking is probably on a yearly BCF level as opposed to what our quarterly production level would be. So, I mean, just peg that at the 1480 to 1500 BCF for the year.
spk08
Yeah, with maybe some shut-ins occasionally in there if we want to take advantage of arbitrage.
spk05
Yeah, and as far as to answer your question on when we would think about growth, you know, we're going to stay consistent with prior messaging, which is there's a couple things we want to see first. Number one is we want to get our balance sheet and hit our leverage targets, which we're well on track to doing that by end of 21. I think the other thing we look at,
spk08
is you know you need to have a sustainable strip that that's probably more than just the next 12 months out um and so we'll be surveying the landscape when we get to that when we get to that point and then maybe the third part is uh brian i think growth for us is probably zero to five percent so it's not going to be like the old k days of 20 30 so it'll be very modest growth if we do grow
spk07
Great, thank you. And then my follow-up goes back to the topic of M&A. And on the last call, you talked about that you would need to have confidence in M&A, free cash flow per share accretion, and you mentioned that again here today. You also mentioned that you would need any M&A to contribute to deleveraging the business. And I realize that you can't talk specifically, but I wondered if you could characterize the market broadly. on whether those opportunities are available to achieve both those goals, as well as I think you also mentioned the NAV per share earlier in the call.
spk05
Yeah, sure. So, I mean, we've said historically it's a buyer's market. We think that that's still the market that we're in. So, it all comes down to hitting those metrics that we talked about is getting assets at the right price. So, I mean, that's the That, I think, is going to be an ultimate determination on being able to achieve those type of metrics.
spk07
And I guess we get the question on that as to the use of equity. And I guess it would seem like if the goal is to contribute to deleveraging that that would be a part. But can you comment or talk maybe philosophically about that?
spk08
Yeah, so this is Dave. So, you know, one thing to just think about is, you know, probably a few weeks ago when we were at a conference, we mentioned to everybody that our balance sheet back a few weeks ago when the curve was actually lower, you know, we could see ourselves already at sort of two times leverage or less. And so I think from an ability to need equity effectively to fund a an acquisition to de-lever. I think just the fact that the strip has risen up a lot has really put ourselves already in, I would call it, investor-grade metrics. That's kind of why we talked about it. So I think if we do ever do M&A, I think the need for equity has significantly dropped. And it doesn't mean we wouldn't do it, but I just say that, you know, I think there's views out there that were written that we'd have to do a lot more equity. But I think, again, to Toby's point, If we buy it right, number one, that's the first point. And then the fact that we're already sitting in investment grade metrics puts us in another good spot where equity is really less needed. Thank you. You're welcome.
spk01
Your next question comes from Nathan Kumar of Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk09
Thank you for taking my question. I'll start with, you've talked a little bit about the long-term growth, and I think, Toby, you mentioned 0.5%. There's other legs to the investment case today. It's the cash return strategy. How are you thinking about it? What are the gaining factors for you to start returning some of this extra free cash flow to shareholders?
spk05
Yeah, so hitting our leverage targets by 21, I think, is going to give us the ability to make that decision so that, you know, we can be returning capital to shareholders, you know, as early as 2021. I think that, you know, all things being equal, when our balance sheet has gotten to the place where we'd like it, you know, growth or return capital to shareholders, we're most likely going to be returning capital to shareholders.
spk09
Got it. My follow-up is actually on slide 15, and you've kind of alluded to this. The industry and even the Appalachian seems to be under-investing in supply. I want to particularly touch on what do you see around you right now? Because, you know, I think a comment there is that you're not incentivized and industries are incentivized to provide a supply response. Does that mean that, I mean, I'm just kind of curious, what are you seeing around the board? Are people just being very, very reticent to bring back activity?
spk05
yeah i think i think that you see you just look back at the history here and you know anytime we see a price signal industry has increased rigs and grown production Any production growth you get is offset by declining commodity price, so you're not really making any progress. I think industry gets that right now. I think the fact that operators are looking to organically deleverage their balance sheet by reducing absolute debt as opposed to increasing EBITDA is one of the things that's sort of keeping people disciplined on the growth. And I think the other thing is you look at the strip, and, you know, while 21 has certainly come up, which is great to see, you know, you look further out, and I think you look at that strip in 22 and 23 and realize that there's still an opportunity for commodity prices to come up to a level that before anybody would think about adding more activity.
spk09
Great. Thank you.
spk08
Yeah, and then I'd just jump in and say that, you know, If you want to use return on capital employed as a long-term return metric for investors to want to come back and really invest in this space, the industry really needs 350 gas over the next five years to really generate that return on capital employed.
spk09
That's what I was looking for.
spk01
Your next question comes from Jeffrey Campbell of Teohi Brothers. Your line is open.
spk02
Good morning. My first question is on M&A. Toby, since you've said that you think that much, or at least a significant portion of Appalachian Tier 1 acreage is drilling up, what would really be the benefit of having more scale with a less attractive resource?
spk05
Sure. I think it comes down to just the points I made earlier about the benefits of scale. So, I mean, being able to leverage technology at scale is certainly going to be something that would help. Being able to leverage lower well costs across a larger asset base is another one. Being able to leverage a larger, more robust gathering network, access to more markets being the third, and then also being able to take advantage of an investor-grade balance sheet would be the other as well. And I'd say strategically just having a little bit more control over supply You know, with a disciplined approach, I think, is another thing that helps stabilize a commodity. And like we said in our script, scripted remarks, you know, the thing that's going to increase the value of the biggest impact to the value for our shareholders is going to be getting our assets valued at a price that's higher, closer to $3.250. And, you know, more discipline in the industry is certainly going to be a key towards achieving that.
spk02
Okay, thanks for that. And following on your last point regarding forward net gas pricing, your desire to receive a higher commodity assumption, what sort of oil price do you think is required, I guess, over the next couple of years to keep sufficient volumes of associated natural gas out of the market, which in turn would allow producers like EQT to better control its state?
spk05
I would say $50.
spk02
Okay, perfect. Thank you.
spk01
There are no further questions at this time. I will turn the call over to Toby Rice for closing remarks.
spk05
Thanks, everybody, for your time today. You know, we spent a lot of time over the past year talking about the results that this organization has been able to produce. But I would urge everybody to take a minute and go to our CSR report at esg.eqt.com. i think it's a great example of how you know we don't just care about the results we put up but how we how we generate those results and uh proud of the the the great work the team has done putting that report and hope everybody can check it out so thanks everybody thank you ladies and gentlemen this concludes today's conference call thank you for participating you may now disconnect
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