Embraer S.A.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thanks for standing by. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Its broadcast is intended exclusively for the participants of this event and may not be reproduced or retransmitted without the express authorization of Embraer. This conference call will be conducted in English, but please let me say a short announcement for Portuguese speakers. My name is Gui Paiva, and I'm the head of Investor Relations M&A and the venture capital for Embraer. Welcome to Embraer's second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. The numbers in this presentation contain non-GAAP financial information to help investors reconcile EVE's financial information in GAAP standards to Embraer's IFRS. We remind you EVE's results were already discussed at the company's conference call last week. Before we begin, a legal notice to everyone. This presentation may contain forward-looking statements which involve risks and uncertainties, as detailed in the disclaimer available in the slides and in the documents filed with the Brazilian Securities Commission . At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Instructions for the Q&A session will be provided later. Participants on today's conference call are Francisco Gomes Neto, President and CEO of Embraer, Felipe Santana, Chief Financial Officer, Thais Moraes, Corporate Communications Director, and myself. This conference call consists of three parts. First, we will present the results for the second quarter of 2026. Second, we will host a Q&A session exclusively for investors. And finally, we will hold a dedicated Q&A session for the press. It is my pleasure to now turn the conference call to our President and CEO, Francisco Gomes Neto. Please go ahead, Francisco.

Thank you, Yogi. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. It is a pleasure to be with you today to discuss Embraer's second quarter 2026 results. We delivered the strongest second quarter revenue in our history. We achieved our highest second quarter deliveries in the past 16 years and reached a new all-time high backlog for the seventh consecutive quarter. We continue to see strong performance across all our business units. Driven by our focus on sales execution, efficiency, operational discipline, and production ramp-up. Simply put, we continue executing the fundamentals exceptionally well. These results further strengthen our confidence in the outlook for our businesses and have led us to raise our 2026 guidance, also supported by favorable effects. Let me now turn to the key highlights of the quarter. In commercial aviation, Azora placed an order for 15 E195-E2 aircraft while maintaining 15 purchasing rights. During the quarter, the E2 program surpassed the milestones of 500 firm orders. In executive aviation, we achieved the record second quarter revenues and deliveries, supported by strong market demands. We also received the triple certification for the Praetor 500E and Praetor 600E. In defense and security, the UAE ordered 10 C-390 aircraft with options for an additional 10 units. This marks the platform's first selection in the Middle East and the largest international order for the C-390 to date. In service and support, we continue to expand our recurring revenue base through new contracts. including support for Jazz Aviation's E175 fleet and a new maintenance agreement with the Brazilian Air Force covering its KC-29 fleet. During the quarter, we delivered 65 aircraft, 20 commercial jets and 45 executive jets. Total company deliveries increased by nearly 7% year-over-year, with commercial aviation growing 5% and executive aviation growing 18%. In commercial aviation, we delivered 30 aircraft in the first half of the year, representing 36% of the midpoint of our full-year guidance, one percentage point above the five-year average. In executive aviation, we delivered 74 aircraft in the first half, representing 45% of the midpoint of our full-year guidance, and an impressive 11% pointage above the five-year average. Our company-wide backlog reached $34.5 billion, an increase of 16% year-over-year and another all-time record for Embraer. Commercial aviation backlog grew 15% year-over-year, supported by a 1.8 book-to-bill ratio over the last 12 months. Defense and security backlog increased 42%, with a strong 2.6 book-to-bill ratio. The executive aviation backlog grew 5% year-over-year, while service and support increased 12%, with both segments maintaining book-to-bill ratios above 1. In addition, we hold approximately 21 billion in options, which could expand our backlog to more than 55 billion over time if exercised. I would also like to provide a brief update on EVE's continued progress. The flight test campaign is advancing according to plan. Following the successful completion of hover flights, the team is now moving into transition flights, an important next step on the path toward certification. With that, I will now hand the call over to Felipe, who will walk you through our financial results. Felipe, the floor is yours.

Thank you, Francisco. Good morning and good afternoon, everyone. Let me start with the results by business unit. All comparisons are year-over-year, unless otherwise noted. Starting with commercial aviation, revenues increased 8% to $625 million, driven by higher volumes. Adjusted EBIT totaled $18 million with a positive 2.9% of margin. The year-over-year decline was primarily due to customer mix. In executive aviation, revenues increased at 32% to $725 million, supported by higher volumes and product mix. Adjusted EBIT reached $170 million with a positive 23.4% of margin. These results include strong operating performance and the effects of U.S. import tariffs and the extraordinary tax credit. Excluding both effects, adjusted EBIT margin would have been 16.1%. In defense security, revenues increased 38%, reaching $304 million. Adjusted EBIT was $36 million with a positive 11.9% of margin, supported by stronger KC390 revenue recognition and operating leverage. In surveillance support, revenues increased 24% to $565 million, driven by higher volumes. Adjusted EBIT total $106 million with a positive 18.7% of margin. These results include U.S. import tariffs and an extraordinary tax credit. Excluding both items, Adjusted EBIT margin would have been 17.6%. At the consolidated level, net revenues increased 23%. to $2.2 billion in the second quarter. From Business Mix's perspective, Executive Aviation represented 32% of revenues, Commercial Aviation serviced more than 25% each, and Defense, 14%. In the first half, revenues reached $3.7 billion, representing 44% of the midpoint of our full-year guidance. Adjusted EBITDA was $356 million with a positive 15.9% of margin while just EBIT totaled $297 million with a positive 13.3% of margin. During the quarter, the company recorded Approximately $8 million of U.S. import tariffs and an extraordinary tax credit of $68 million. Excluding both effects, adjusted EBIT margin would have been 10.6% of margin. In the first half, adjusted EBIT margin reached 10.6%, or 5.5 points higher than the five-year average. Our just free cash flow excluding EVE was $401 million in the quarter. This reflects stronger operating results, sales-related pre-down payments, and an extraordinary tax credit. Investment totaled $121 million during the quarter, including $42 million in CAPEX, $24 million in tangible additions, $18 million in the pool program, and $36 million in research. Research expenses include engineering service to current projects, as well as other development technologies for future programs. Adjusted net income was $219 million in the last quarter, Adjusted net income margin was positive, 9.8%, up 1.1 points, mainly due to operating performance and lower net financial expenses, which were partially offset by higher taxes. Earning per ADS now stands at $2.5 on a last 12-month basis. Net debt to adjusted EBITDA, excluding ETH, improved to 0.2 times in a quarter from 0.7 times a year ago. Through our liabilities management initiatives, average debt maturity increased to 9.2 years and its average cost declined to 5.1%. During the quarter, we declare R$ 200 million in interest on equity. This corresponds to R$ 0.28 per share or approximately R$ 0.22 cents of dollars per DS. Based on the share price at the quarter end, these represent a dividend yield of approximately 0.34%. From an operational standpoint, we are maintaining our delivery guidance unchanged at 80 to 85 aircrafts in commercial aviation and 160 to 170 aircraft in executive aviation. On the financial side, revenue guidance remains unchanged At the midpoint, this represents an increase of approximately $110 million or 130 basis points, reflecting the extraordinary tax credit, lower U.S. tariffs and a better business outlook. We are also increasing our adjusted free cash flow guidance to $400 million or higher, reflecting strong operational performance, progress in our production-level initiatives, and a strong first-half cash generation. With that, I will hand it back to Francisco for his closing remarks. Thank you.

Thank you, Felipe. The second quarter of 2026 reinforced our confidence in Embraer's strategic positioning and our ability to consistently execute. We have also started the third quarter with strong momentum, including the announcement of 28 additional E-2 orders and welcomed Colombia as the newest KC390 customer. Colombia became the 13th country worldwide to select the KC390, further expanding the aircraft's global footprint. We were also pleased to introduce the new EV edition of our best-selling Phenom 300. Strong demand across our businesses continues to support our growth trajectory. Our performance reflects the discipline, focus, commitment, and energy of our people across the organization. Their dedication enables us to deliver stronger results today while continuing to invest in the technologies that will drive our future growth. Behind these achievements are the values that guide everything we do. Safety first. With that, we are now ready to take your questions.

We will now start the question and answer session. We remind you again that this conference is being recorded. Its broadcast is intended exclusively for the participants of this event and may not be reproduced or retransmitted without the express authorization of Empire. We also highlight that this conference call is being conducted in English with translation to Portuguese. We request participants interested in asking questions to press the raise a hand button on the platform. When your name is announced, please make sure your microphone is on and start your question. To give everyone a chance to participate, We request to ask just one question per time. If you need assistance, please use the Q&A button on the platform. We'll also answer questions sent via the platform chat. The first part of the Q&A session will be exclusively for equity research analysts and investors. The second part of the Q&A will be only for the press. The first question comes from Christine Luag with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, Francisco, Felipe, Guy, and Daís. I wanted to ask about margins. Margins were a clear standout in the quarter. Can you talk about more and provide more detail about what drove operating leverage in executive aviation and defense? Was there anything that was one time in the quarter? Basically, how should we think about this as being structural change in your cost structure versus quarter specific? And any update regarding your grow efficiency strategy would be really helpful so that we can better understand your margin trajectory from here.

Hi, Christine. Good morning, and thanks for the call. Q2 was really strong for us in executive aviation. We have done a lot of progress in our production-leveling initiatives in the last two years, and we almost went close to where we want to be. That has definitely helped the results. In the quarter, when you look at executive, obviously, we have also the impact of a tax credit. and the tariff payments. And that helped the results on a net basis for the division for around $54 million at the EBIT level.

Great. And anything about what would be structural change in your cost structure versus and thinking about the broader growth efficiency plan in the next few years? Maybe it's a little too early to look out a few years, but it seems like you're achieving some of your margin targets much earlier than expected. So I just wanted to see if there's more upside from here.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, go ahead again. Go ahead.

No, I was just going to highlight one of the things that you're very passionate about, Francisco, which is, you know, lean operations and the fact that we do Kaizen's and we do Obeya's and we do efficiency projects on a day to day basis. It's not you know, there's not there's not a silver bullet, Christine. This is like an ongoing effort by thousands of thousands of people that do this on a regular basis. But I'll pass it to Francisco because it's one of his most passionate topics.

Okay, thank you, but you didn't answer the question. But, Cristine, it is true what Guy just said. So we have seen our executive GS production, I mean, progressing very well with the production leveling initiative. So this year, we still have some issues. to be fixed with a few suppliers that are still delivering parts late. I mean, forcing us to move aircraft late in the line, but it's improving, it's improving. So we expect that in 2027, we will see a much better performance in terms of production leveling, which will help us to see a higher productivity and high efficiency of our lines.

Great, thank you very much.

Thank you. The next question comes from Marcelo Mota with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I would like to hear more about, you know, this $4 million improvement in business outlook that you mentioned as one of the reasons to improve the adjusted EBIT margin guidance. So just wondering here, you know, if this is related to a specific segment, if this is like also a cash gain, if it's, you know, more on the accounting. So anything that you could comment about the upsides and downside risks for these $4 million to be lower or higher, it would be very interesting. Thank you.

Good morning, Marcelo. Philippe here. Thank you for your question. So this four million is really connected with what Guy mentioned and Francisco, right, on enterprise efficiency, where we focus in all business units. So these four million is spread out among all the business units. Of course, that we see that more on executive aviation. mainly because of the production leveling and all the efforts that we're doing. But this year is recurring the way that we see this $4 million improving from all the segments that we have.

Thanks, super clear.

The next question comes from Lucas Marchiori with BTG. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Hey, guys. Morning. Yeah, I know. I just wanted to clarify this. Let's say one of the facts on the queue, of course, because our attention, the tax credits. Right. I mean, if you could just kind of give us some color and what's the nature of it. And if it's if this is if this was like a cash impact already in the queue, I'm assuming it is. But just to confirm the numbers. Right. And then if you guys can. can give us at least some more call on what's the nature of it and if there's any other kind of a reversal coming in the second back of the year as well. Thanks for the clarification.

Hey Lucas, good morning.

Felipe, start. No, thank you, Lucas, for your question. Good morning. So this impact we have both, right? We have both on cash and also on EBIT, right? Most of it is refund of the tariffs that we impact the company last year in the first quarter and the second quarter of this year. So this is what we had done. We still have some pending amount to receive on cash, but everything was already recognized on the EBIT margin of the company. And going forward, we don't want to have any more direct tariffs to the company, but we are also going to have indirect tariffs to the company, impacting especially 7 support around $12 million annually basis.

Great. That's clear. Thank you, Felipe.

The next question comes from Luis Rafeto with Volf Research. Please go ahead.

Good morning, guys. Morning, Luis. I think you just actually answered the question I had whether that $60 million was the tariff refund or not. It seems like it is. So just to be clear, the $12 million that you still have indirect, so basically expect $6 million in the back half and primarily in services.

Yeah, that's it, Luis. Okay.

And are we done with going through the tariff cost from sort of the backlog or from inventory, excuse me?

Yes, we are.

Okay. And then maybe just, I know you mentioned the 28 orders. Just can you expand on any additional pipeline opportunities this year or Skyline opportunities?

Yeah, Luis Francisco speaking. Thanks for the question. Yes, we are happy with this last announcement we did in Farnborough with these 28 orders. And yes, we are working in other campaigns, but they still need to do some work to cross the finish line. But yes, we are positive with more sales of our products until the end of the year.

Thank you very much. You are welcome.

The next question comes from Alberto Valerio with UBS. Please go ahead.

Good morning, Francisco, Felipe, and Gui. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to do my questions here. I have two on my side. The first one, really strong margins on executive jets. You mentioned the Kaizen model of Embraer and so forth. But can we consider that it is any different mix for this quarter for looking forward? We used to have 12% margins on business jets. It's coming X tariffs at 16. Should we consider for the future something in between? Or you think it's more towards to the 16? And my second one on backlog, I think you guys are very comfortable for the for the guidance of long-term or 2030 for the commercial with 1.6, if I'm not mistaken, times what we have the book to be of this year with more than two times 2.6, the defense and 1.1 for... For the business jet, the business jet is one that I'm talking about to see if you guys are comfortable with the long term. It's the only one that the book to be with a little bit below the long term goals. Thank you very much.

Alberto, good morning and thanks for the question. On executive aviation, I guess we continue to see a gradual improvement in our operations despite having a product-client mix which has provided a little bit of headwinds. And that is just a testament to the efficiency gains that the company has been able to generate to offset these slight headwinds that I alluded to. When you look through the rest of the company, we continue to be really optimistic. We have seen defense margins continue to improve on a steadily basis, and you obviously saw the order that we were able to obtain from the UAE in Q2. and we do expect the success of the KC platform to continue in the next few years. We have continued to expand the backlog in services also which provide us with a steady stream of value for the company and we have continued to work and we should continue to see improvements in the second half and most importantly in the next few years for the profitability that we have in our commercial aviation as well. Right now with Record backlog for the company. We are able to produce at the target levels that we have for 2030, which is going to be our capacity. So we remain very upbeat about the outlook for the company in the next few years.

Fantastic. Very clear. Gui, congrats on the result.

The next question is from Lucas Barbosa with Santander. Please go ahead.

Good morning, Francisco, Philippe and Guy. Congratulations on the results and thanks for taking my question. So my question is on commercial aviation. This quarter, the margin saw a slight drop due to client mix. I wanted to understand what are the expectations in terms of customer mix and margins for the second half, 2026 or 2026 as a whole? In other words, could we see an year over year expansion in margins for second half or for 2026 as a whole? or should we see this drop that we saw in second quarter persisting throughout the year? Thank you very much.

Thank you, Lucas, for your question. Philip here. When we look right to the results of the second quarter of commercial aviation, as we mentioned, we had an impact of customer mix and driven by legacy contracts. When you look for the full year of commercial aviation, it should be in line from what it was last year. So we're going to see some improvements going forward on EBIT and also customer mix on commercial aviation.

Perfect. Super clear. Thank you very much.

The next question comes from Lucas Lackey with XP. Please go ahead.

Hi, everyone. Good morning. I have a follow-up question on profitability. But I mean, we saw this very strong performance on executive, but also in services. I mean, almost 18% of recurring EBIT margin in the services division. My question is, I mean, how to think of the structural levels for services going forward? I guess that this performance was slightly above what we saw as a reference, according to our conversations with market participants. So, I mean, it's interesting that gross margin declined and EBIT margin increased. So, I'm not sure about the effects of operating leverage that you still have to capture going forward. I mean... If you could also comment on the nature and the profile of the revenues this quarter, thinking of these different components that you have in services and how to think of this going forward, if you should see some more upside or downside considering this 18% return levels of the science in the second part going forward. Thank you very much.

Philip here, thank you for your question. As we've been mentioned, we not just do efficiency on the business units and the aircraft, but also on servant support. So when we look to the 17%, almost 18% of margin on servant support on the second quarter, I really believe that should be the way that we could do for the next quarters. Right, especially mainly because of the scale that we have and also all these new deals that we've been signing on pool agreements and everything with the customers on commercial aviation and also on defense and executives is also helping us to see better margins going forward on servant support. And of course, we do have AUGMA, right, as well, that is also improving, especially on the DTF engines. So also for the upcoming years, we're going to see better margins coming also from AUGMA.

And Filipão, if you allow me to complement your explanation, we have been pushing for efficiency gains in the entire organization to make sure that we have the right cost structure The right expenditure to support the business, the right level of investment and productivity gains, continuous productivity gains. So this is for us to enjoy the growth we are planning for the future, improving more than proportional the profitability. So that's why we are doing this very strongly in the entire organization. Then we should see the profitability growing more than the revenues in the coming years.

Perfect. Thank you very much. Have a great day.

You too. Thank you.

The next question comes from Ron Epstein with Bank of America. Please go ahead, sir.

Hey, good morning, guys. Can you speak about your investment in EVE? How are you thinking about that? Is that something that should be 100% part of Embraer or is that something that should be cut loose? When you think about the engineering cost of that, should those engineers be deployed on something else or it sort of seems like You're halfway in, halfway out. Like, how are you thinking about that?

Hi, Ron Francisco here. Thank you very much for your question. I mean, we are very confident about the EVs contribution to the Embraer growth, especially, you know, beyond the 2029, 2030 to, you know, to complement our growth strategy at the beginning of the next decade. We are now, we had more than 60 flights, vertical flights. We had also, we completed recently our first partial transition to horizontal flight. So we have, yes, hundreds of engineers supporting EVE, but we expect to certify an entry into service of the EVE 12s by the end of 2028. But in parallel, we are working to improve current products and also supporting new sales of KC390. So new sales mean new configurations that requires a lot of engineering support and also invest in new technologies, I mean, to support a new cycle of products. And, you know, as I had mentioned, We continue evaluating emerging technologies and product opportunities to support a longer-term growth strategy. This can be commercial aviation, executive aviation, or even defense.

Got it, got it. And then have you seen any impact, and forgive me if you already answered this, I might have missed it, any impact on sales campaigns from what's been going on in the Middle East?

Well, I mean, in defense, yes, because of the geopolitical situation, we have seen countries accelerating sales campaigns. So you saw the recent announcement after the UAE announced Colombia recently. I mean, you saw Greece also mentioning. A potential deal through Portugal of KC390. And we are working on other campaigns as well that I cannot disclose at this point of time. So yes, Rome, the geopolitical situation is helping the defense business. I think not only for us, for the market. But yes, Embraer is benefiting because we have a great product that transports the military aircraft segment.

And how about on the commercial side? What's the impact been?

Well, commercial, actually, I mean, what we see is that the air transportation industry has been extremely resilient, despite the higher costs of the tickets. So people are still flying. And this creates an increasing demand in the market for new planes. In Rome, as a As there is a huge backlog for bigger aircraft, now the customers, airlines, they have to wait many years to receive a new aircraft. Combined with a better understanding of the benefits of this more narrow body to their fleets, we see a lot of opportunities for our E2s with the new worlds in the future. So last year was great. This year also, we are doing very well. and we are still working on a lot of new campaigns for the E2s as well. I think all this environment has been beneficial for Embraer. I mean, for defense, for commercial jets, and we keep selling jets as well. So yeah, we are in a good moment, I would say.

Got it. Great.

Thank you very much. You are very welcome, Ron.

The next question comes from Danielle Gasparetti with Itaú BBA. Please go ahead.

Good morning, guys. Thank you very much for the opportunity and congrats on the results. The first question, please, will be regarding if you could provide us with an update on India, both on commercial and defense aviation. That would be great. Thank you very much. And the second question would be a follow-up on the previous question. When do you guys feel that EVE is going to be de-risked, I would say, operationally? Do you feel like it's going to be only after the total certification by the end of 2028? Or do you feel that when you have enough flights or you're comfortable enough with the envelope of tests, there could be a threshold of comfort, please? And just one confirmation, Francisco, you said about a new venture, you said about commercial executive as we have discussed in the past, but you mentioned defense, if I'm not mistaken, just to clarify that, please. Thank you very much. That'll be all.

All right, Daniel, thanks for your question. Let's try to share this in parts. Gui, maybe you start, then you... Sure.

Good morning, Gasparetti. Thanks for the question. So let me tackle the Eve question Francisco can compliment on India. On Eve, I think the project will be at risk when we kind of achieve the major milestones that we have in the project. So that would include at least, you know, a full transition flight and reversal to landing. But, you know, as we progress in the campaign through the rest of the year and into early 27, you know, we do expect this material progress to play out. Francisco?

Yeah, Daniel, thanks for the question about India. In India, we have two fronts of opportunities, very good opportunities. The first one in defense with the MTA. We believe we have the best product for that application, but it's a bit. So we have signed an MOU with Mahindra, our partner, and we are just waiting for the customer, the Indian Air Force, to issue the RFP for us to present our proposal with a localization strategy. In parallel, We have been working in the civil aviation as well with an opportunity to introduce our E-Jets, E-1s and E-2s to help India to improve the connectivity between smaller cities and, you know, taking advantage of the Making India initiative. So in that sense, we have signed an MOU with the Adani Group, and we are in close conversation with them to find the best way to explore that opportunity. But both are great opportunity for us, for Embraer to grow and expand our production capabilities outside Brazil.

Thank you, Francisco. Thank you, Guy. And just one follow-up on the question that I made. On the previous answer that you gave, you mentioned about looking about new ventures. You mentioned commercial and executive aviation, as we have always been discussing, but you also mentioned defense. I would just like to clarify that, if I understood that correctly, there will be something that you're going to be considering as well, or it will be only on commercial and executive aviation, please?

Well, in defense, we have two main products, right? The AKC 390 and the Super Tucano. We recently announced an upgrade in the Super Tucano with the new cockpit and the new features to detect and eliminate drones. And we expect that will help us to increase the sales of Super Tucano as well.

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

You are welcome, Daniel.

The next question comes from Andre Mazzini with Citi. Please go ahead.

Yes, hi Francisco, Felipe, Gui and Thais, thanks for the question. So, we see a couple of large airlines bringing engine MRO in-house this year. There was news of Ryanair announcing they would do this, you know, bring it in-house. Do you think this may be a trend? Thank you, Andrea. Good question. That's my opinion. I think this makes sense only for large volumes, right?

So airlines that operate a sizable fleet, that this maybe makes sense because the investments are huge. And also, I mean, the main purpose of the airline should be flying, right? But anyway, maybe with big fleets, this makes sense. We don't see this as a trend for all the markets.

Great, Francisco. And if I may, a quick follow-up. If you could remind us the breakdown in the service revenue between Embraer airplanes and other OEMs airplanes. We understand Ogma, for instance, they also do larger, narrow bodies. I would imagine, of course, that the bulk of it is Embraer, but what's the share currently between Embraer and non-Embraer in the service revenue? Thank you so much.

Hi, good morning. So in terms of our service division, Augma should be running something close to $350 to $400 million of revenues this year. And the bulk of that is going to be non Embraer fleet. And that that is the agnostic part of the business and the and the balance of that, which should be about, you know, 1.5 to 1.6 billion will be our Embraer or fleet related business.

Super interesting. Thank you, Francisco and Gui.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Now we will start the Q&A session dedicated to the press. First, we'll answer questions in English and then we'll be answering questions in Portuguese. We will also answer questions sent via the platform chat. Please hold while we compile the questions. The first question comes from Ioannis Rekas with flige.com.gr. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon from Greece. Can you hear me?

Yes, yes, we can. Go ahead.

Great, great. I would like to congratulate you, first of all, for these exceptional results. And my question has, of course, to do with the potential of Greece's acquirement for C390. It is a program that was passed from the parliament and we're expecting a cost of 600 million euros. So I would like if you can share with us some more updates regarding that. And then the comment of course in the difference of the cost between Colombia's and Greece's program per unit. Thank you very much.

Thank you for your question. This opportunity is being discussed between Greece and Portugal. That's why there is an opportunity for short deliveries to Greece. We cannot disclose. We don't know the details about commercial conditions and we can't disclose your price because every aircraft is different. Every aircraft has a different specification. And this means different costs for each program.

Great. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

You are welcome.

Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please click raise hand at this time. Ladies and gentlemen, please hold while we compile the questions. The next question comes from Edgardo Jimenez from Aviacion Line. Please go ahead. Mr. Jimenez, your mic is off.

Sir?

Hi, can you hear me now? Yes. Oh, thank you.

Yes, we can. Go ahead.

Sorry. No, my question was, with recent ICHU orders from LATAM and Abra Group, do you see the ICHU family as a potential good fit for low-cost carriers in the region, such as Jetmar, Volaris, or Viva? Have you actually actively pitched business cases to these kind of low-cost carriers in Latin America?

Eduardo, thanks for the question. Absolutely, we see the E-2 as a perfect fit for this kind of application. We see now Azul doing very well in Brazil, now coming to Latam. The Abra group we don't know yet where they will fly the E-2s. But the idea is the same, to improve connectivity between smaller cities. And Mexico is another opportunity. So Evianc, of course, in Colombia under the ABRA group, but Mexico for sure. We have, I mean, I think over 60 Embraer E1s flying in Mexico with different, Aeromexico and other airlines. Now Mexicana introducing the E2s with a success operation. And yes, we hope the other lines will look at the E2 as well as an opportunity to complement the operation for large and narrow body in a very efficient way.

Thank you very much.

Ladies and gentlemen, once again, if you would like to pose a question, please click raise hand at this time. Please hold while we compile the questions. The next question was sent from the chat and is from Robert Wall with Aviation Week. On C390 rates, given the recent orders and what we're seeing and potential opportunities, what is your thinking to go higher than 10 aircraft per year in 2030?

Well, I mean, an opportunity we have, we are working on is with India. And this will allow us to implement a second assembling line outside Brazil. and go to production levels above 10 per year. And another opportunity we are working on is with the United States that will also allow us, if things go well and depend on the size of the order, to implement a third assembly line that will allow us to increase even further the production of KC-390 But I believe Bosco, our VP of Defense, is with us. Bosco, do you want to add anything on that? I think he's not here yet. Okay. That's it.

Thank you very much, sir. This concludes the question and answer session in English for the press. This question and answer session is now being conducted in Portuguese. To switch to English, please press the interpretation button on the platform and then select English. Agora, vamos iniciar a sessão de perguntas.

Now we will initiate the Q&A session in Portuguese. Next question is from Marcelo Rocha with CBN Valley. You may proceed, sir.

Marcelo Rocha with CBN Valley. You may proceed.

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe Marcelo Rocha's microphone is on mute. So I'll jump to the next question from Karine Salomon with Seu Dinheiro. You may proceed, ma'am. Good morning. Good morning. Embraer's backlog. continues to hit record numbers. Is there any ceiling to how much Embraer can invest? What are the investments to increase production going forward? Or whether the efficiency gains you mentioned are just enough to keep up with the speed of deliveries? Hi, Karim. This is a very good question. It's a combination of both things. One, We will continue to invest in efficiency and this is something that we've been mentioned frequently with freighters. For instance, in 2021, it used to take us 18 months to produce freighter and today we can produce the same plane. Thank you very much. Our production capacity, we reach 120 to 130 commercial jets a year, plus 200 executive planes and 10 KCs in Brazil. And the KC, as I said in a previous question, we still there have the opportunity to have new production lines. And this is true. I mean, India is a possibility. The US is another possibility. And the commercial jets. If our project with India moves forward, we might even have a second production line of commercial jets. So the outlook is very good, but we are doing that in a very responsible way. while at the same time we increase our backlog. Production capacity will not be a limiting factor to our future growth. Perfeito, obrigada.

Thank you very much.

A nossa próxima pergunta vem... Next question comes from Christian Carrico, at Valor Econômico. You may proceed. Hi, and thank you for taking my question. Congrats for your results. My question is, I mean, I would like to hear a bit more from you about the guidance update. The productivity gain was an interesting aspect, especially in regards to executive jets. Just to make sure I understood, this is basically due to the fine tuning you did on the side of vendors and whether you have a very positive, I mean, your outlook is quite positive. My other question and many more. Thank you. So my question is, do you see any room for new updates given this current scenario? And there is also the fact that you have a spare parts residual, and that's why they were subject to tariffs. Do you think this will persist going forward? I would just like to get a better understanding about that issue and if you see further possibilities of making adjustments going forward. Christian, good morning. This is Guilherme. Thank you for your question. The guidance adjustment, as you mentioned, involves a combination of factors. Thank you very much. So about reviewing the business plan on a regular basis when we publish our results every quarter, this is a moment where we can reiterate the previous guidance or we can update it as we did it for this quarter. Perfect, thank you. Next question. is from Marcelo Rocha with CBN Valley. You may proceed, sir.

Mr. Rocha, you are good to go, but your microphone is on mute.

Could you please check that, because we cannot hear you. Okay, thank you.

Next question.

and Nelson Durin with DefesaNet. The first question is, what is the projected share for the fans in your total P&L? Now it's at 14%. Well, thank you for your question, Nelson. Historically, the fence has always been in the range between 14% and 15% in our total P&L. But now, since revenue is growing, there is a dollar denominated amount and so this grows as well. We then estimate that at least by 2030, Thank you very much. Thank you. We also have a second question on the chat from Marcelo Rocha with CBN Valley. The question is addressed to Francisco. You mentioned that the forecast for IfTol from EVE should start commercial operation by the end of 2028. How many units should be in the market for this period, and what would be the first Anticipated commercial flight in Brazil and abroad. Thank you for your question. Well, yes, our expectation in terms of EVE starting operation by the end of 2028 I mean, today we have about 3,000, you know, letter of intent for purchases. Some are firm orders for eVTOL. I mean, entry into operation should probably occur in Brazil and in the U.S., just, you know, as in... In terms of production, we will start our production in Taubaté as previously announced. In Taubaté, the top capacity will be close to 480 units per year. and the reassembling of these aircrafts close to where they should be operating in the future, because the range of the aircraft is small. And with that, we will just get a feeling of the market. And after that, we will decide about other Evital Plants. We don't have anything defined at the moment, but we just want to support the Evital entering into operation starting in 2028. Muito obrigada. Thank you. Next question. In writing from Nelson During with the FISAnet. What versions are being projected for KC-390? KC-390 MPA or Maritime Petrol Aircraft, is that moving forward? Nelson, I don't have detailed information on these versions, but the versions we sell today is C3 United, AKC 3 United. The difference between the two is the refueling is on air, and every business has its different specs. We don't have yet a version for MPA. I mean, as far as I know, until up to now. So we are focusing on C3 United and KC3 United with the different specs depending on customer request. Thank you.

Okay, that's right. Thank you very much, ma'am.

So, thank you. And with that, we conclude the Q&A session and also this Ernie's release presentation from Embraer. Thank you very much for joining us and have a very good day.