Eve Holding, Inc.

and welcome to the Eve Holding, Inc. Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lucio Alvarez, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, everyone. This is Lucio Alvarez, the Director of Investor Relations at ETH, and I wanted to welcome everyone to our fourth quarter and full year 2025 earnings conference call. Our CEO, Johan Bourdais, and CFO, Eduardo Couto, are joining me on the call today. After their prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions, at which point, Luis Valentini, our Chief Technology Officer, will also join us to address more technical questions. We have a deck with a few slides and additional pictures and videos that showcase our achievements in the quarter, including, of course, the initial stages of the test flights of our full-scale prototype. The deck is available on our website at ir.evairmobility.com, so please feel free to download it and follow along. Let me first mention that today's conference call includes statements about events or circumstances that have not yet occurred. These are primarily based on our current expectations and projections regarding future events and financial trends that will affect our business and future economic performance. These forward-looking statements are based on current expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause financial results to differ substantially from those expressed or implied in this conference call. We undertake no obligation to update publicly or revise any forward-looking statements because of new information, future events, or other factors. For a more detailed list of these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our SEC filings, which are available on our website. With that, I will now hand over the presentation to our CEO, Johan.

Thank you, Lucio. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the fourth quarter 2025 conference call. This was a very special quarter for us. As many of you have most seen, we concluded the first flight of our engineering prototype last December, after we completed an extensive series of ground tests on all of its systems. Although the first flight was short and lasted about a minute, we are evolving quickly into other phases of the flight campaign. We are going to show more data further in the presentation. We have performed a total of 28 flights and accumulated more than an hour of flight time. The prototype has recently completed a two-week scheduled load calibration test in preparation for continued expansion of the flight envelope that is part of the upcoming phases in the campaign and is ready to resume flight testing. In parallel, we continue highly engaged with ANAC on the final terms of the certification plans and also suppliers from whom we are already receiving some of the components of the first conforming prototype. Going into a bit more details, as you can see on the picture slide three, We successfully conducted our first flight on December 19th. This was obviously a major milestone for us. It confirmed that not only the proof of concept of the configuration, but also the integration of key systems including the fifth generation fly-by-wire and the fixed pitch lifter rotors. During the flight, we exercised the control laws, verified the integration of the eight lifters and I assessed the energy management, the aircraft dynamic response, and the noise footprint. The prototype behaved as predicted by our models, and we will, with this data point, expand the envelope and progress toward transition to wing-borne flight. The next phases will be conducted in a disciplined manner, ramping up to around 300 flights throughout 2026 and building the knowledge required for TAP certification. This brings us to the next slide, number four. As you can see, we quickly engage into a consistent and intense flight campaign. So far, we have flown our aircraft 28 times with a total of an hour and six minutes of accumulated flight time. As mentioned previously, the high quality of the flights with important test points being validated in each of every flight allow us to continue progressing and expanding the envelope of the flights. We are now performing longer flights at higher altitudes. Also, we are now performing on-air maneuvers with side-to-side movements, some horizontal displacement and rotation on its own axis. Some of the videos available on our website will show you these maneuvers. Lastly, weather permitting, and please keep in mind that this is the rainy season in Brazil, our aircraft is being put on a test twice a day. To date, there were seven different days in which we could fly twice. At the current pace, we should be in position to make around 300 flights as planned for the year. Flight number five details a bit better what the flight campaign will look like for the prototype this year. In total, we are planning our four distinct phases, each building up on knowledge and experience gained in the previous one. The first stage is hover and some maneuvers. This is a critical phase to validate characteristics of vertical flights, which was the first for us. In this phase, the prototype performed vertical takeoff and landing. The flights gradually evolved to longer times and also higher altitude, but remained at a fixed position with some maneuvers with the use of the lift-to-propulsion system only. This phase is now completed. and we're moving to transition flights when we will start to flight the aircraft originally. Initially at the speed below 30 knots and using our pusher motor and perform initial synchronization lifters because during this phase the lifters will be powered at all time. We sometimes refer to the partial transition and we expect to conclude it until the end of the first semester. The third phase is what we call the cruise flight, in which, after the takeoff of the aircraft, we'll move beyond the transition speed. At this point, the air moving through the wing will produce all the lift required to maintain the aircraft airborne. For the landing procedure, we will gradually slow the aircraft below the transition speed. The lifter will be engaged automatically to maintain vertical control, and the pilot in the remote pilot station, the RPS truck, will maneuver the aircraft vertically to its landing site. In a nutshell, this is the same set of maneuvers from the takeoff to cruise, but in a reverse order, all of which controlled by our fifth-generation follow-by wire. As in previous phase, speed, altitude, and distances will be all increased gradually, and we plan on completing this phase early in the second semester. Last but not least, we will introduce the failure into the system such as unplanned motor shutdown to test how the system reacts to validate and refine the safety procedures and the protocol of the pilot. Now, the slide number six shows the level of engagement with our suppliers. We regularly meet them and visit their sites, and there has been noticeable up-sticking activity recently. We have some of the components for the first of our series of certification-compliant aircraft. The tooling for the pylon and some composite materials of other systems are already being manufactured, as for the doors, propellers, and the wing tooling. Importantly, we can see the mechanism that is designed to fold the propeller in its full form. This is a notable achievement because we introduced a four-blade system to reduce vibration and sound emission more recently and the folding mechanism is necessary to reduce drag and improve aerodynamic profile as much as possible. We are also working with our suppliers to conclude the critical design review, what we call also CDR, to freeze the specification of each component and release the drawing from them to start manufacturing each part. As the name suggests, it's a critical phase of the design process and will kick-start the production process for the remaining component of our certification-compliant vehicles. Plaque number 7 gives more details about the latest firm orders we signed early February with Japan Air X. This is our second binding contract and includes two firm aircraft and the option for another 48 aircraft. This is a very important market for us with strong potential. As a reminder, we believe that Japan can absorb as many as 390 EV tolls to transport 3 million passengers per year. There are multiple use cases from the airport shuttle, ecotourism, or point-to-point commute in its many large cities. AirX already operates in 10 of them, so it is a strategic partner for EVE. Slide 8. shows our total pre-order backlog that stands around 2700 aircraft for a total value close to 13.5 billion dollars based on the list price 2025. this includes non-binding letters of intent from 27 different customers as well as revos and airx firm orders out of the 27 customers we also secured contract with different customers 14 total for our eve take care suite of the aftermarket product and services, which could bring up to $1.6 billion in revenue to EVE over the first few years of operations. As you can see, we also have 21 different customers for our air traffic management solution called Vector, and I believe this reflects the market-leading value proposition we bring to our customers. Now, I would like to invite our CFO, Edu, to review the financial results and some of the 2026 coming milestones.

Thanks, Johan. EVE ended last year with a very comfortable financial position. Our liquidity reached 541 million at the end of 2025, with 390 million in cash and another 150 in undrawn credit facilities with the Brazilian Development Bank, BNDES. These are important to help preserve our cash position. Also, when adding a new loan secured early this year with a syndicate of banks, total liquidity is even higher, now at 641 million. This is the highest cash level ever for ETH. And although the syndicated loan brought 150 million, our liquidity grew by 100 million because we refinanced 50 million of an existing loan to extend our amortization schedule, better matching our cash flow needs as we approach certification and entering into service. Last year, And as you can see on slide 9, our operations consume $175 million, but I wanted to note that we had a $21 million working capital gain last quarter, as some of our engineering payments to Embraer slipped into the first quarter of this year. If these invoices had been paid in 2025, our cash consumption would have been $196 million in 2025. Given that, our cash consumption in 2025 was very close to the low end of our guidance of $200 to $250 million, and it continues to reflect our robust yet simple structure, cost discipline, and the main synergies we enjoy by being part of the Embraer Group. Now moving to slide 10, EVE is a pre-operational company, and our financial reflects mostly the costs associated with our program development. That said, I would like to highlight some of our numbers. EVE invested $59 million during the fourth quarter 2025 in research and development activities and $195 million in the full year. The majority was directed towards the development of our eVTOL. We also deployed $8 million in SG&A during the quarter and $31 million in the full year. Including R&D and SG&A, EVE reported a net loss of $64 million in the fourth quarter 2025, and $224 million for the full year. Finally, we end the fourth quarter with $393 million in cash and $541 million in total liquidity, as already discussed. We expect cash consumption to intensify this year because of increased development activities. We are now in a full-fledged and intense flight campaign with our engineering prototype. We're increasing engagement with suppliers as we progress towards the assembly of our six certification-conforming prototypes. All of these efforts will involve greater engagement with Embraer Engineering, infrastructure and testing facilities, and supplier payments. In the end, we expect our operations to consume between $225 and $275 million in 2026. We remain in a comfortable financial position and our liquidity is enough to cover our capital needs well into 2028. With that, we conclude our remarks and I would like to open the call for questions. Operator, please proceed.

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, Please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2.

At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question today comes from Savi Sip with Raymond James.

Please go ahead. Hey, good morning everyone. Maybe first off, just wondering, Edu, if you could give a little bit more color on the cash consumption, just a breakout between how you think that R&D, SG&A, and CapEx generally kind of progress this year.

Yeah, sure. Good morning, Savi. The 225 to 275, it's mostly R&D, right? We're trying to keep SG&A at kind of the levels we had last year, right? Around 30 million. So the remaining portion is mostly for the development service that we pay to Embraer and all the development activities that we have with suppliers, right? A lot of activity on the suppliers. There's also a structure from Yves, but that's small. CAPEX should be around 20 to 30 million, specific about the plant. But by far, the big chunk of the cash consumption this year is on the development, mostly Embraer and the several other suppliers we have.

That's very helpful. I appreciate it. I was also wondering, I'm not sure, on the means of compliance. I think originally the thought process was maybe that would be accepted in 2025. And so, just kind of curious what feedback you've received from ANAC on that front and if that has any kind of impact on the timing of the CDR review completion.

Hey, Sally. This is Luis Valentini. Good morning. So, we have some work currently going on the means of compliance, mostly on On two fronts. One is noise for which there is some specific regulation that's still being discussed both with ANAC and the FAA, but also with some means of compliance that are related to the certification of the product in many aspects. in the sense that there was not too long ago a new AC published by the FAA, and we are adapting or modifying some of the means of compliance that we had previously agreed with ANAC to be more in line with this regulation that was issued by the FAA. This helps us Although it's some rework now, it helps us in the future when we have the ANAC-TC and go into the validation process with the FAA. It will be more streamlined with the requirements being more similar. So it's work that we had not expected to be doing now. But again, it's something that accelerates in the future the process of validating 2C. It doesn't have much impact on the CDR because it doesn't change the product. It's just mostly the way of showing compliance with the requirements.

Makes sense. Thanks, Alangini. The next question comes from Andre Shepherd with Cantor Fitzgerald.

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Hey, everyone. Good morning. Congratulations on all the great progress, and thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to maybe just touch on the six ANIC conforming aircrafts that you're building, wondering if you could maybe give us an update there. How are you thinking about timing for those, you know, different phases, different steps? And I guess if I could just combine that, are those the ones ultimately to deliver to REBO? as part of that first delivery. Thank you.

Yeah. Hey, Andreas. Thanks for the call. So thanks for the question. So the prototypes will not be delivered. These will be only for testing. The point that we are in them right now is that we have some of the long lead time items already being manufactured. So you saw there, one of the slides shows some of the parts already being started in production and also some of the tooling for some of the composite parts already being made. That's part of the initial production. So then when we have more parts like these, we can start assembling components and then go to the final assembly of the prototypes. These will be used only for certification campaign, as I mentioned, development and certification, right, but not for delivering to customers.

Got it. Okay. That's very helpful. And then, Johan, I'm wondering if we can maybe get an update on the service and support and maintenance segment. Any sense of when you might – target to kind of begin ramping that up and maybe emphasize that a bit more. Just curious on kind of what the strategy there is. Thank you.

Thanks, Andre. Since the very beginning of Eve's solution, it's not only the product, but it's also the customer support and services. We know how important it is to make sure that we have a clear vitrine to start with, especially with Revo. As you can imagine, we're focusing on this integrated service. but all the others were recently announced at the last week at Vertcon, a partnership with Vertport and also Altair in Australia. So as you can see, this is part of the whole ecosystem building. Customers want to make sure that the OEM is involved, want to make sure that they'll have the availability and the right operating costs. So we have this duty to be engaged, and it's exactly what we're doing with each of our customers. And it's almost city per city, right? I mean, it's really... early operation and per operation. So this is what we're really focusing on, and this is why you see more and more announcement related to this ecosystem readiness.

Excellent. Thanks again for taking our questions, and congrats on all the progress. We'll pass it on. Thanks, Audrey.

The next question comes from Ellen Page with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Thanks for the question. You announced that AirX order firm order for two aircraft in February. Congrats on that second customer in the firm order book. How do you think about the pace of further firm orders as you kind of progress through flight certification? And also, can you just level set us on your current expectations for certification and entry into service?

Thanks, Alan. This is Johan.

Since the very beginning, we've announced, you know, we've made LOIs. We understood that at the time it was very important to sign LOIs. Not so much about the number of aircraft, obviously it comes with it because it reflects, you know, the need of each operator in their own respective region, but also, you know, showing that we had the right solution, and that's the trust that the customers are putting by sending an LOI to say, look, you know, you come up with the aircraft, you certify it, you have the right customer support, the right suite of solution as a vector for ATM, right, different modules. then I'm in. I believe in this, you know, urban air mobility, fully electrical, and I'm in. And this is what we've built over the years, the last five years. And I think this is now, you know, we're at the crossroad right now where we need to convert because we're two years away, you know, from the first delivery. Obviously, we're starting to do what we call the SOIP, right, which is, you know, really see, you know, what are the sales, you know, where are the slots of the production. will come in the first ramp up of production. So this is natural and this is exactly what happened with Revo. But it's not so much, because of getting the aircraft ready for production. It's also because the customer needs to really engage, get the authorities, the partners for the ecosystem to be ready. It takes time to get the power line, for example, to the vertiport, transform an helipad to a vertiport, get the right authorities or authorization for firefighters, for example, procedures for the vertiport and ramp operation. So this is also, you know, needed for the operators, and then they can come back to the local authorities and say, look, you know, I've signed a contract. We need to get ready also. You also need to get ready as much as the OEM. Otherwise, we'll be delivering a vehicle that, you know, that we want to make sure that it has the right operation support. So this is natural. We elected RIVO. RIVO elected us to start the operation in Sao Paulo. I always say, you know, Brazil and Sao Paulo is... is the place where UAM will be showing what is a true OEM operation, especially when you have a customer like Revo that already is doing urban air mobility with helicopters, right? And then AirX, it's another consequence of a market where you can see that authorities, government, private initiatives understand that and they see the future and the urban air mobility and they believe in it And now they know that it's time to also convert. So this conversion rate is natural. We have 2,700 vehicles signed under LOI. It can go up and down. I've said it, you know, in previous calls that we're not looking for more LOI unless it really matters. sense for Eve in strategic region or specific customers or a mission fit. And also, you know, really the focus is to start having this conversion happening together with the aftermarket and ecosystem preparation. I think this is the key because we want to really make sure it becomes a retrain.

Great. Thank you. The next question comes from Marcelo Mata with JP Morgan.

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Hi, everyone. Two quick questions. The first, if you can provide some additional color regarding this deferral of payments to Embraer, you know, why that happened, you know, we haven't seen that before on the earnings, so just wondering if something that could happen, you know, in the coming quarters. And the second is also a little bit more color on the backlog. I mean, if we are correct, there was a a very small contraction in the number of orders and in the value. So just wondering, you know, what was the driver for one of the clients, you know, to take its LOI out, you know, if it was related to, I don't know, timing of evolution of, you know, any milestone that you need to reach, or if it was maybe a financial issue with the client. I mean, whatever you can tell us, that would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

Thanks, Mota. Let me take first the payments to Embraer. The way we pay to Embraer is they invoice us every quarter, right? Once the quarter ends, they take around 15 days to get all the expenses. Then they send us an invoice and we have 45 days to pay. So that means we end up paying Embraer, for instance, for the fourth quarter of last year. We end up paying at the end of the following quarter, which is the 45 days plus the 15 days that they take to send us the invoices. In the fourth quarter, which was actually the invoice of the third quarter, it took us a little bit longer, and we ended up paying at the beginning of January, so there's nothing Special, as I said, sometimes it slips a little bit. We have to check all the expenses, everything. But it was unusual. We do not expect to see other invoices slipping. But in the fourth quarter, there was this $20 million. And as I said, we already paid in the beginning of January.

That's Marcelo for a second question.

This is, like I said, I mean, you know, we started to sign LOIs almost when we started the company, you know, four or five years ago. So it's really natural that you see the LOI, especially when it's LOI, You know, the companies actually move. Sometimes they change their strategy. Sometimes some of them go bankrupt or start up. You know, they see an opportunity in the OEM, and then they, you know, they go bankrupt. Or sometimes it also happens, you know, the reduction of the backlog or the pre-order backlog. It's, you know, with Blade, since Joby did purchase in the WebBlade, and then they obviously have another strategy when it comes to the OEM or EV toll. Like I said, it's natural. It goes up and down when it goes to LOI. But now we're focusing really on the order conversion and moving forward to start looking at the first slots also and getting the customers ready to get their ecosystem ready.

So it's quite natural. No, super clear. Thank you very much.

Great. Thank you, Andres. I'm sorry. I think there was Ellen asked a question that we did not answer. It was about the certification deadline, right? So, Valentini, can you give us a little more insight?

Sure. So, just complementing Johan's answer earlier to Ellen about the timeline, We see on the presentation today that we have significant progress in the project, right? That goes both on the work with the suppliers, on the definition of the product, and advancing what we see are characteristics that will be on the final vehicle. And at the same time, on the certification, I mean the development flight test campaign that we've been doing with the engineering prototype. So these are aspects that we see that the project is moving very strongly, and we're excited about that. At the same time, we still have significant challenges moving ahead. I mentioned earlier how we were working with the authorities on setting the means of compliance, and we feel that's going well. But then there's another stage that comes afterwards. which is actually showing compliance with those requirements for certification. And so that involves not only work and analysis, but also testing, ground testing, flight testing. That's a big campaign, a big project, a big part of the project that will come next. So there are significant challenges that are still ahead of us in finalizing the product characteristics, moving the product to the certification phase and managing to show compliance with all requirements to finalize the type certificate issuance. So in summary, we see that there are strong steps that we were able to take and progress that we are excited about in the last quarter, but still a lot of challenges that are ahead on the road to certification on the timeline that we had, you know, that we're still publishing.

The next question comes from Sameer Joshi with HC Wainwright.

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Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. The first is about the suppliers. Have all the critical components been finalized and suppliers for them finalized? And if not, then is there a timeline before which you have to freeze all the suppliers?

So all of the suppliers for the critical parts and critical components and systems are already engaged. They are working with us. So these, I can mention, for example, the electrical system, the propulsion, so, you know, lifters and pusher, flight controls computers that we're working with Embraer. So all of the suppliers for these systems have been engaged already for quite a while in the project, and that's really important. for us in the sense that they need to work in an integrated fashion, right? So the communication, for example, between the motors and the vehicle goes through the flight control's computer, you know, also handles communication with the battery. So all of these need to work together, and that's why it's important that all of the suppliers have already been on the project and have been working together on these. So no significant components to be sourced at this time.

And then the second is just a sort of clarification or more insight. Of these 300 times that you are trying to, are targeting to fly this year, is there a magic number in the sense that would you be able to complete, based on your tests and results, these flights and, or rather, all your flights objectives in less number of flights, and can this be accelerated, or do you foresee something that you have to test multiple times and require more flights? I just wanted to see how this timeline could be pushed forward or back.

Yeah. Well, thanks, Amir. So the 300 flights, we usually mention that as a reference to help everyone understand the volume of testing that will be done with this vehicle, right? So it's just a way for us to help everybody gauge, you know, the level and the intensity of the flights that will be performed. But really, the way that it feeds into our development is much more gradual than that, right? So Johan mentioned we're doing the hover tests now. And already with these hover tests, we are bringing useful information for the design of the certification vehicle, right? This will be the case for all of the steps that we take moving forward with the flight test campaign. So it's something that happens gradually. And of course, as we move forward, we may find that there are some characteristics of the vehicle that require us to do some more extensive testing. This is something that happens with all of the developments. aircraft as you fly you find that there are some characteristics that sometimes need more tuning or you find that there are some opportunities there to extract more performance for example so you do more testing so it's normal to adjust the number of flights and exactly which types of flights you perform as you go along. And the 300, again, is just a reference, you know, of the size of the flight test campaign. But we don't hold ourselves so much on that. It's more important to perform the scope and feed into the project as we move along this flight test campaign.

Understood. Thanks for that, Kalar, and good luck for 2026. Thanks. Thank you.

The next question comes from Austin Moeller with Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Hi. Good morning, Johan and Edu. Just some, my first question here, is the, is ANAC planning any equivalent to the eVTOL integration pilot program or are you planning to participate in something similar in other countries?

Yeah, great question. Thank you.

I know the IPT has been a program with high visibility. I mean, we definitely support the U.S. government efforts to accelerate the future of air transportation, right, through the EVTOL integration pilot program. This is one of them. We're a global company, and we've been working in different countries, and it reflects also the backlog that we have. And And this is not unusual to have government going through this type of program. And as a matter of fact, whether it's Japan, it's Australia, or it's the Middle East, or even in Brazil, we do have a similar program. So we're very supportive of this type of program. We do have our own flight test activity, just like Valentin just described, progressing as part of the ANAC certification progress. Also, with the FAA validation, right, so they do have meetings between FAA and ENAG, right? I'm thinking of ENAG because eventually, you know, we will apply there. That's why. So, and yeah, we've been working also with different states in the United States, you know, to have a similar type of what we call CONOPS or or pilot program that will allow to demonstrate what is a UAM operation.

So something that we do in Brazil, in the U.S., but in many other countries.

Okay. And can you talk a little bit about the production capacity for aircraft to roll off the line that you have in your existing facilities versus what you plan to scale into as we get closer to certification?

Production capacity. Oh, hang on. We were on you here. Can you repeat that, the question?

Sorry.

Yes. I was just wondering if you could talk about the production capacity for EV tolls that you have at your existing facility versus what you plan to scale into as you get closer to certification.

Yeah, nice. Thank you. Since the very beginning, EVE has a modular approach when it comes to industrialization. We do have a ground field operation. We elected the Atabate side, which is currently a side of Amber Air, which actually technically is not anymore because we're paying the rent, so it's our side. We started some pre-infrastructure refurbishment, and then we are actually planning to go for a first module, which is So it's going to go, sorry, it's modular, like I said, with 120 vehicles per year, we can go up to 480 vehicles per year, right? But beyond that number, then we will have to go into another facility, right? More than likely not on the same site. Somewhere else, even abroad, where the market will be, you know, with a center of gravity, right, for de-risk purposes.

Great. That's really interesting. Thank you.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Andre Madrid with VTIG. Please go ahead.

Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question.

Looking ahead, I mean, as you guys move through the test flight campaign, what do you expect the pace of conversion of LOIs to firm orders to be?

Or do you have any expectations at all?

Ever since we signed up the contract and converted with Revo and more recently at the Singapore Airshow with AirX, we've seen the interest of customers increasing, right? From either the one that already had the LOI on the contract or some new customers, right? Where we're actually engaging in negotiation, not even to go through a LOI, but directly to a firm order. I think it's to find the right balance between being able to show them, you know, how the program is progressing, right? And also, you know, is it the right moment for them to engage and to get a vehicle? And when is that going to be, right? And to get the slots. So for 2028, and then there's a ramp up. As I just mentioned about production, we can accelerate, we can go slower. We have this full flexibility. So it's... It's a ratio that we have, you know, that we're looking at what needs to be done. It's what we call internally the SIOP, right? It's the sales, inventory, and operation process where we have the sales team together with production and procurement. And finance, obviously, and looking at how is this ramp up is going to look like. So we're not disclosing any more information on it right now. But we do expect that, you know, with the up to 300 flights, as Valentini mentioned, as a target, right? And then we're progressing also the getting the conforming prototype, the six conforming prototypes. which one of them, by the way, will be a demonstrator, which I think also it's a great tool to have, you know, to demonstrate to customers, and it usually also brings a lot of conversion at the time.

Got it, got it.

And then if I could follow up, I know you've been helpful in outlining that, you know, you're expecting cash burn through the year for 26, but, I mean, could you maybe just, you know, peel back a little bit more and explain the exact cadence quarter to quarter?

Yeah, we're expecting in terms of cash burn, André, we're expecting 225 to 275, right? It's an increase versus the 200 million we burned last year. The increase goes mostly to more development activities, right? Not only with Embraer, but also with several suppliers. Generally, it's... it's not evenly spread over the quarters, maybe a little bit less in the first half. And as we, as we continue to progress on the conforming vehicles, right, it may be a more heavy on the second half, but you know, it will be spread maybe a little bit more second half than first half.

Got it. Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you.

This concludes our question and answer session.

I would like to turn the conference back over to Lucio Aldworth for any closing remarks.

Thank you, Betsy, and everyone who joined the call today. As you can see, we accomplished several milestones this past quarter. We're fully engaged, and there's much more to come. As you just saw, our upcoming achievements will be more clearly visible to the investment community, so the next few months will be very exciting for us. We're going to continue to update you on all of our progress through the next few quarters. Again, it's going to be very exciting, and we look forward to meeting you in the upcoming events we're going to attend. As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to our team.

Thank you, and have a great day.

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