Endeavour Silver Corporation

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

8/10/2021

spk03: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Endeavor Silver Corp 2021 Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero. I would now return the conference over to Galina Meliger, VP of IR for opening remarks. Please go ahead.
spk00: Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Endeavor Silver 2021 Second Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. With me on the line today, we have the company's Chief Executive Officer, Dan Dixon, our Chief Financial Officer, Christine West, and our Chief Operating Officer, Dawn Gray. Before we get started, I'm required to remind you that certain statements on today's call will contain forward-looking information within the meaning of applicable securities laws. These may include statements regarding Endeavor's anticipated performance in 2021 and future years, including revenue and cost figures, silver and gold production, grades and recoveries, and the timing and expenditures required to develop new mines in mineralized zones. We do not intend to and do not assume any obligation to update such forward-looking information other than as required by applicable law. On behalf of Endeavor Silver, I'd like to thank you again for joining today's call, and I'll now turn it over to CEO Dan Dixon.
spk06: Thanks, Galena, and good day, everyone. Welcome to the Endeavor Silver conference call for the second quarter of 2021. Before I dive into Q2 results, I want to highlight that this year so far has been one of leadership change. As we position the company for its next stage of growth, as you all are aware, in May we announced a seamless management transition. I assumed the role of CEO. My longtime colleague, Christine West, got promoted to the role of CFO, and Brad Cook stepped into the role of Executive Chairman. Also of note, our newly appointed Chief Operating Officer, Don Gray. He has significant expertise in development over his 45-year career. This management transformation was an important part of Endeavor Silver's succession plan that was several years in the making. It represents a celebration of our past and investment into our future. So with my first quarter in the seat of the CEO, I can assure you that our goal is to deliver exceptional shareholder returns as we execute on our commitment and strategy. With three key areas of focus of safety and culture, ESG, sustainability, and ultimately profitability. We're already making significant progress in these areas. On the safety and culture side, our eye care and taquito operating philosophy continue to be ingrained in our culture, bringing a step back and take charge attitude in a positive way. This is important to me and the way the leadership should view the business. Demand for corporate action and data across a host of environmental, social, and governance issues continues to grow at a rapid pace. with increased mandates from investors, regulators, and industry stakeholders. At Endeavor, these are serving as catalysts to drive further improvements and new initiatives. We are currently formalizing a multi-year ESG business strategy that we anticipate to release in the fourth quarter. We will build on our existing sustainability practices to address the evolving landscape in this area and achieve meaningful outcomes for our stakeholders. This will be especially important ahead of a development decision at Terranera. Lastly, regarding profitability, our focus over the next couple quarters will be cost control. We are seeing industry-wide inflationary pressures due to the global supply chain constraints. I was in Mexico last week and we put together a plan for weathering and reducing higher costs in the second part of this year. Beyond the more traditional business risks we face, we're not out of the woods yet on the pandemic. 25% of Mexico is fully vaccinated, so COVID-19 risks are prevalent for the country. Particularly, a Delta variant poses risk to our non-vaccinated employees and stakeholders. However, the risk remains less than the original variant due to developed protocols already in place. We're currently rolling out a company-wide internal campaign to increase vaccinations for our employees and their families, and testing will become more regular and controlled in the second half of the year. With that, let's turn to our Q2 performance, and then we'll open it up for Q&A. As per our news release this morning, our financial performance this quarter was stronger than previous year. However, comparatively speaking, Q2 2020 was impacted by mandated shutdowns by the Mexican government to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Year on year, our revenue was up 136% to $47.7 million on the sale of 1.1 million ounces of silver and almost 10,000 ounces of gold. an average realized price of $26.82 for silver and $1,866 for gold. On a year-to-date basis, our revenue now totals $82.2 million. After quarterly cost of sales of $37.5 million, mine operating earnings amounted to $10.2 million from our operations in Mexico. This resulted in overall net earnings of $6.7 million, or $4 per share, Q2 earnings were strengthened by the sale of our El Cubo operation and the gain on sale of Mark Global Securities during the period. The Cubo transaction closed in April for $19.8 million in cash and share payments, with up to $3 million in contingent payments in the future. When excluding the gain on El Cubo, the adjusted earnings were just under $1 million for Q2. We reported quarterly EBITDA of close to $16 million in operating cash flow before working capital charges of $8.7 million, both up significantly from the comparative quarter in 2020. It should be noted our quarterly consolidated costs were higher than budget. Cash costs were $13.03 per ounce of silver, up 370% year-on-year, and all unsustaining costs were over $25 per payable ounce of silver, up 70% year-on-year net of gold cut. Offering costs were higher than budget due to global supply chain constraints, creating inflationary pressures, increased labor costs, a strengthening Mexican peso, and we increased offering development at Guaniceve that we should see come to fruition here in the second half of the year. Particularly at Guaniceve, royalty costs increased almost 400% to $4.3 million in Q2. This is obviously due to the higher realized silver price and increased mining of the high-grade material at El Curso. On a per ounce basis, the royalty costs alone equate to almost $4 per ounce on cash costs and all in sustaining metrics. Notwithstanding the increased cost profile, our gold and silver production profile is tracking ahead of guidance, totaling 3.9 million ounces of silver equivalent metal for the first half of the year. We announced in today's news release that management will suspend operations at our Elk Compass mine this month due to exhaustion of reserves. This was communicated in our annual guidance earlier this year and will not impact the company's ability to meet or exceed production guidance for the year. El Compass is a small gold mine and was intended to be a bridge until Terranero comes on stream representing less than 5% of our annual consolidated production. We have some very talented individuals at El Compass that we expect to transfer within the company to our operations in Bolonitos and ultimately to Terranero. The anticipated suspension cost is estimated to be $1.3 million that will be incurred over the remainder of the year. And in the meantime, management will be evaluating various value creation opportunities. On a positive note, we're entering the second half of the year with a robust cash balance of $125 million, minimal long-term debt on our balance sheet ahead of the potential construction decision of Terranera later this year. This should help us facilitate our ability to track project financing. Moving on to our mines, Guanus V is our top performer and will produce over 60% of consolidated production. During Q2, higher throughput and higher grades resulted in production exceeding plan during the quarter and ahead of the annual plan. At Bolonidos, we are focused on developing the Belén vein and expanding production in the Maledito vein, where both areas have multiple drill targets. From a production standpoint, process tons were higher than plan, offset by slightly lower grades during the quarter. And lastly, at Compass, production has been declining quarter over quarter as planned in preparation of the suspension. So that's a brief overview of the operations, and we recognize we have improvements to implement in our costs, and we are confident we will reduce them in H2 in the second half of the year. In terms of our growth outlook, our attention is on Terranera. Terranera is slated to be our next core asset. We published a pre-feasibility study last year forecasting over 5 million ounces of annual silver equivalent production over 10 years. The project is development ready and fully permitted. We're now in the final stages of completing our final feasibility study to de-risk the project and evaluating financing alternatives that we use to start construction. The final feasibility study will be released this quarter and we'll also host a detailed webcast to discuss the results. Subsequent to the end of Q2, we also announced an agreement to acquire an advanced stage gold exploration asset, the Bruner Gold Project in Nevada, from Canamex, a company that's currently under a CTO, a cease trade order, with ideas that we will look for a shareholder vote for the entering Q3. And Deborah will provide an update on our plans to advance the asset after that vote. At this time, I can say that we view the acquisition as opportunistic, and the asset could potentially be layered into our growth plans following Terra Nera. Several years of exploration work remain ahead of any potential development on this gold heat leach asset to model the potential production. For this reason, Mexico and silver remain to be our focus. In closing, we are confident in our business strategy, our financial position, and our growth agenda. I'm looking forward to leading the Endeavor Silver and continue to work with our board, executive team, employees, and partners through these exciting times for the company. With that, operator, I'd like to conclude and open up for Q&A.
spk03: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. The first question comes from Jake Sikelski with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hey, Dan and team. Thanks for taking my question. Hey, Jake. Just looking at Compass winding down this month, I guess what do you see as the most likely outcome here? I know you're looking at a range of options. Do you think we're likely to see more of an outright sale like what we saw with Kubo and any color on an outcome on this run as far as timeline goes? Yeah.
spk06: Yeah, for sure, Jake. From a timeline, I can't provide a lot of color there. We've talked with a number of groups that would be interested in Compass, but at the same time, there is exploration opportunities that remain in the district. Ultimately, Kubo worked out really well for the Acquire Van goal, which is now Guanajuato Silver, and worked out well for us. Ideally, that would be the same case for El Compass, but we're early days yet, and As I say, there's a lot of exploration opportunity that remains in that district. We have some other properties, a little bit more base metals that would require refurbishment of the plant. Not a huge amount of refurbishment, but nonetheless refurbishment. So we have exploration opportunity that we can do and continue to push forward. But at this point in time, that's pretty much all I can say from an Elk Compass, various alternatives standpoint.
spk02: Okay, that's helpful. And then I guess just on the finished goods inventory, I mean, We were slightly down from where you were in Q1. I'm just curious if this is more related to the timing of shipments, or was this just, again, a strategic decision to withhold some inventory for sale in a higher metals price environment, or what are your thoughts on that?
spk06: Yeah, as you alluded to, we built our finished goods balance at the end of Q1, and we continue to hold that balance. I think at the end of Q1, the fair market value was about $15 million. And at the end of Q2, that fair market value was about $17 million. So from a fair market value standpoint, we actually had higher finished goods at the end of Q2. And we do still believe in long-term prices, silver and gold. And ultimately, what we saw on Friday is a short-term dip, what we expect in the prices. And we expect that to come back in the fall. And ultimately, when we need that cash, we'll dispose of those finished goods.
spk08: Got it. That makes sense.
spk02: Okay. That's all on my end. Thanks again. Thanks, Jake.
spk03: The next question comes from Heiko Ehle with HC Wainwright. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hey, Dan. Thanks for taking my question. I hope you're doing well.
spk06: Thanks, Heiko. I hope you're doing well as well.
spk05: I'm trying. You mentioned industry-wide pressures and the global supply chain earlier on this call. Can you just provide a little bit of color on the things that concern you the most? I mean, I assume a year ago it would have been things like masks and cleaning supplies. I mean, that stuff seems to be in pretty decent supply right now. I hear rumors about tires being hard to get, some particular equipment having long lead times. I mean, is there anything in particular that you see? And almost as importantly, can you maybe say how that answer would have differed 30 days ago?
spk06: Sure. I think our biggest concern right now is going into the construction phase of Terra Nera. So steel is going to be a big part. And we are seeing increases in basic construction supplies and Terra Nera being such a key asset to us and ultimately the cost to build Terra Nera. And we want to do it within the next two years and ultimately have that decision this year. Those inputs, and we're slightly seeing increases there. For us, tires are not a huge cost for us with being underground vein development and vein mining, as opposed to the big open pits where tires have a big significant cost. Other things that we're seeing some costs are all our reagents, cyanide flocculants, We saw some increase in Q1. We've sourced some spots where we think that we're going to see some cost control here for the second half of the year. Ultimately, what we're also seeing increases on is geologists and engineers and the supply constraints with what's happening in our space, that more geologists, more engineers, and that's going to impact their salaries and their asks, and that's starting to come through. One of the other things that we saw come through in Q2 is production bonuses from 2020 PTU payments, profit sharing payments in Mexico. Also, what happened in Mexico is they changed the outsourcing rules, so all employees have to be employees of the company that they work for. We had to make that transition in the second quarter, which cost us additional cash as well. But ultimately, the rest of the inflation story that we're seeing across the world impact us a little bit here in Q2, and we're concerned that will impact us across almost all inputs in Q3 and Q4.
spk05: Got it. And then just a quick clarification. In your MD&A, you break down the drilling activity by country and in meters. I think it was page 22 or something. I noticed that you're spending $1.2 million in Chile at Paloma for only 3,000 meters of drilling. And on a per meter basis, that's actually quite a bit higher than any of the other assets. So purely out of curiosity, and I'm aware this is a small sum of money we're talking about here, but Do you think Paloma is just temporarily expensive given drilling economies of scale? Am I missing something obvious or is this just a more expensive area to work in an off-rate with, I don't know, unions getting trouble or hard to access? And would this be any different if there is ultimately a mine there?
spk06: Yeah, no, it's a very fair question. You're right. Paloma, we drilled this year. It is more expensive and that was always budgeted. That'd be more expensive. We also did a lot of surface work too that would be built into some of that cost. So we've been doing permitting at AIDA and permitting at Cerro Marquez that would be built into some of that cost on a segment basis that you're reading. But you're right in the fact that Chile itself is more expensive. It's more expensive from a drilling standpoint, and we also think it would be much more expensive from an operating standpoint. But again, what we're looking for in Chile isn't underground vein mining. It's open pit, world-class size assets that would be game changers for Endeavor.
spk05: Very good.
spk06: I'll get back into you. Thank you, guys. Thanks, Iko. Much appreciated.
spk03: The next question comes from Cosmos Chu with CIBC. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi. Thanks, Dan and team. Maybe my first question is also on... Hi, Dan. How are you doing? Good. How are you? Good. My first question is also on cost. I guess, as you mentioned in your MD&A, cost was over $25 an ounce, higher than what you had expected. You've also talked about inflation. and some of the cost pressure here. I'm just wondering, you know, how much of that cost pressure has been captured in your Q2 numbers? It doesn't sound like everything. I'm just wondering, you know, since the Q2 numbers, have we seen more cost pressures into Q3? And could that leak into Q3 and more being reflected into Q3 as well? I'm just trying to figure out, even if you have, say, improved efficiencies in the second half or in Q3, Is that going to be offset by continuing inflationary pressures that were not reflected in your Q2 numbers?
spk06: Yeah, no, that's a fair question. Our goal is those inflationary pressures won't show up in Q3 and Q4 or July. Production results just came in and we're waiting for costs for July yet. So I can't speak to Q3 as what we're seeing so far, but our expectation is those costs will be contained here in Q2. So we've looked at some of our cost profiles and we've projected out for the next two quarters. And we expect that to be relatively the same. Again, some of the stuff that we saw in Q2 on bonuses, production bonuses, PTUs and changing over resulted in salary increases and labor costs increases. Ultimately, those won't flow through in the third quarter or fourth quarter. And then the big aspect to it all and we've always communicated this, is the $4 royalty costs. And with prices where they're at today, obviously that royalty cost will come down. The other thing that happened in Q2 at Guantanamo is we did a lot of operating development. So development that we expense in an area we call El Pueblo. Ultimately, that won't flow through into Q3 or Q4. So we expect our cost profile to be lower in the third quarter.
spk01: Okay, great. And I guess, Dan, into the fourth quarter as well, because To confirm, you've maintained your cost guidance for the year on sustaining costs of $19 to $20 announced, right?
spk06: Yes, we have not changed guidance at this time.
spk01: Okay, great. Maybe following up on costs, as you mentioned, the feasibility study at Terranera is expected by Q3 and potentially a go-ahead decision after that. As you talked about inflationary factors here, In Mexico, there's been recent changes in subcontracting rules as well in the country. How are you going to factor that into your feasibility study? And how can you mitigate some of that risk? And how do you see the inflationary pressures in Mexico potentially impacting your decision on Terra Nero?
spk06: Yeah, it's a very fair question. Obviously, from the pre-feasibility study to the feasibility study, we're going to see cost increases, and we've hired wood. They're an exceptional group, but being able to determine costs and rely on that, and I think what we're going to see come through the feasibility study is an inclusion of what we're seeing from an inflationary pressure standpoint on our initial capex. How to mitigate against that? Ultimately, for us, it's going to be if we can get into a construction decision and move I think partly as a company that we are, we're a silver producer and a gold producer. So effectively, any inflation pressures that we see across the world will eventually be showing up in the silver and gold prices on the back end of it. So I think we're mitigated in that sense. And ultimately, the sooner we kind of get going on that construction will be better. As I say, I think Woods really and our teams consider the inflationary pressures. And you're going to see that in initial CapEx when we come out with it and hopefully in the next month or so.
spk01: Great. And then one last question for me here, Dan. The Bruna Gold project, it seems like you're acquiring it from Canamex. Two questions. I guess the first part is new country, new metal. Can you talk a bit more about that strategy? And number two, is that telling us that it is just really difficult to find good silver assets in terms of acquisitions?
spk06: Yeah, I mean... I will say it is difficult. There's a scarcity of primary silver mines in the world, and we see that. And most silver comes from base metal mines and is a byproduct of a lot of other mines. It is difficult. We've seen the whole silver space acquire gold assets, most recently Fortuna with Roxgold versus Jessica with Carrick Canyon. We want to maintain our 50% silver production or above 50% silver production capacity. The move into Nevada, which is obviously a world-class jurisdiction, and gold was more opportunistic than necessarily a strategic move into gold or into a new jurisdiction. The idea that we're not obviously concerned with Nevada, we're not concerned with gold, 40%, 45% of our revenue comes from gold, and we do like gold, but we like silver more. Ultimately, we're looking for silver assets. There's just not a lot out there, and there are some, but not a lot. It always takes two to kind of come to an agreement to acquire silver assets, and we want to add value. We saw a quick way to add some value, and hopefully after a shareholder vote from Canamex, we can talk about Bruner in more detail.
spk01: Great. Thanks, Dan. Those are all the questions I have. Thanks again.
spk06: Thanks, Cosmo. Good questions.
spk03: The next question comes from Joseph Rieger with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.
spk10: Hey, Dan and team. Thanks for taking my questions.
spk06: No problem, Joseph. Nice to hear from you.
spk10: Yeah. So I guess, sorry to continue on to the cost side of things, but maybe a little bit different question. On Guana CFE specifically, you guys mentioned in the MD&A that some of the costs in Q2 were related to some development for an ore body that's not reserves and therefore you had to expense it. Can you kind of give us an idea of what that looked like so maybe we could back it out of the cost numbers and also how much more you're going to have for expenses for non-reserve development kind of over the rest of the year?
spk06: So in Q2 at El Porvenir, it's an upper area of Porvenir that is part of the El Curso acquisition. We spent about $500,000 accessing some ore that we'll ultimately be able to mine and drop effectively here in Q3. And because under IFRS rules, there's no reserves there, we chose to expense that development. So it's, like I say, just under $500,000. Ultimately, we're out of that area now, and we want to just be mining Malachi, El Curso, and Santa Cruz sewer. So I wouldn't expect much more in Q3 or Q4 from that area.
spk10: Okay. Were there any other items like that, one-time items in the Gowanus V Q2 numbers?
spk06: Yeah. We had profit sharing and true-up of our bonus. So PTU, we paid about $250,000 in PTU to Guantanamo City in the second quarter, and we had a top-up of year-end production bonus that we finalized, which ultimately amounted to about a similar amount, $200,000 to $250,000. Okay.
spk10: Second thing is, you know, if I'm looking at your annual guidance, specifically at the gold guidance for Guantanamo and Bolonetos. You guys are tracking, you know, if you just doubled the first half, you guys would be above the high end. Should we be thinking about Q2 gold production from those assets being lower than Q1? Was Q1 just that much better than expected? Like, how should we, you know, whatever color you can give as far as what the Q2 might look like that, you know, made it so you guys didn't decide to raise guidance?
spk06: Yeah, we just weren't ready to raise guidance at this time due to COVID. Obviously, Q1 was phenomenal from a grade standpoint out of Guantanamo City and the grades in Q2 at Guantanamo City were right around what we expected with plan. I think those grades for Q2 might improve a bit here in Q3 and Q4, but ultimately be closer to plan. At Bolognese, our tonnage has been on plan a little bit higher than planned in Q2 in the grades. From a silver standpoint, we're slightly lower, and gold grades have been on plan. Ultimately, we just weren't comfortable raising guidance at this point with so much time left in the year, but there's no expectation that we'll see a dip in production at Guano Suite or Bolonados in the second half of the year compared to what we see now.
spk10: Okay, so it's fair to say your concern is more about potential impact of COVID on tonnage, not on grade. So grade you expect to remain steady? Yes. Okay, and then one final thing. It looks like subsequent to the end of the quarter, you guys finished off the ATM that you had. Any additional plans for any form of equity financing related to Terra Nera, or do you feel with the $125 million in cash you have, plus some investments, that you guys are well-funded on the equity side?
spk06: We are well-funded on the equity side. Obviously, our balance sheet's in a great position, and we've been working with a number of groups to add project financing in the form of, and we've said this for the last six months, somewhere between $60 and $100 million, so say $75, $80 million to help with the funding and keep our cash balance dry for other opportunities that may come along.
spk08: Okay, sounds good. Thanks. I'll turn it over. Thanks, Joseph. Good questions.
spk03: The next question comes from Lucas Pipe with B. Reilly Securities. Please go ahead.
spk09: Good afternoon, everyone. This is actually Matt Key here asking a question for Lucas. Just a quick macro question for me. We've all seen a lot of strength in commodity pricing over the last 12 months, but precious metals have largely lagged or even decreased. I was wondering if this performance in kind of precious metals surprises you at all and where you kind of see silver and gold pricing going in the second half of 2021.
spk06: yeah i mean i guess now that's been in the space for 14 years surprise isn't the right word um i think friday's was kind of one of those tough days but we've seen those in the past and i think it's just a correction right now we're sitting 75 to one silver to gold ratio and ultimately we see that gold ratio get back down to 65 to one and i think we're going to be sideways here for a little bit but i do expect to pick up in fall and into next year Ultimately, government's balance sheets haven't changed. The impact of inflation is still here, and I think inflation is going to be a long-term, and we're going to have to deal with it. There's not a lot of ways for the government to deal with it with where their balance sheets are. Ultimately, we see silver and gold to be higher going forward, but can never give a timeline of when that's going to happen. We're going to make our decisions on tear and error kind of based on what we see a long-term silver price be and long-term gold price and continue to look into the market and see if we can add more silver into our portfolio all up and down the spectrum.
spk09: Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. And you mentioned an ESG report that you guys are going to publish in the coming months. I was wondering if you'd be able to share what you kind of see as the easiest avenues to kind of improve your ESG profile over the coming years.
spk06: Yeah, I mean, it's an ESG strategy. We actually report a sustainability report in May, and then we did our eighth report this year. It's not one specific area where we can improve. I think it's partly continue to improve from our culture standpoint. I think we do a really good job internally and from a governance standpoint, but there's going to be things that are changing in the world, specifically carbons and how to manage that over the next three, four years. that we're going to continue to look at. And Terran Air gives us that opportunity to try to do some best practice stuff to reduce our footprint in the world. And all mining companies are going to have to look at their carbon footprints, and we're going to be no different. So hopefully over the next three to four years, we can improve that and then hopefully report on it and give credit to being a leader in the space on it.
spk08: Got it. That's helpful. That's all for me. Best of luck moving forward. Thanks, Matt.
spk03: The next question comes from Ryan Thompson with BMO. Please go ahead.
spk07: Hey, Dan. Thanks for the update. I think most of my questions got asked, but I'll just ask one on Bolanitos, maybe a little bit longer term. How should we be thinking about that, Ryan, when I look at the sort of resource grades, both in M&I and inferred, they seem to be higher than the reserve grade. So if you could just talk a little bit about sort of converting that material into the reserve mine plan and just how we should be thinking about that asset for the next couple of years. Is it safe to think that grades would be moving up closer to those sort of resource grades?
spk06: Yeah, because of the dynamics right now at Bolanitos, we're still getting grades that we expect, and we're trying to open up more areas and get more working faces to be able to kind of get a more blended silver grade to come up. But ultimately, we are going to see this mine be more gold, less silver as we get deeper into the deposits. We do have some areas, one, Belen, that we've been drilling, and we expect that to come online next year. Meta Deto, we put out some drill results on that earlier this quarter with some good grades. But ultimately, we're hovering around the 2.1 gold aspect. And if we can get silver grades back up in the 50s and 60s, that would be ideal. But right now, we're just seeing variations in the ore body that has lower silver and more gold.
spk07: Okay, that's helpful. Thanks for the update.
spk06: Thanks, Ryan.
spk03: Once again, if you have a question, please press star, then 1. The next question comes from Mark Reichman with Noble Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you. You know, there's a lot of mixed messages in the market about the trajectory of inflation, and so I wanted to ask you, Dan, about how you're thinking about Terranera in terms of the feasibility study coming out in the third quarter. How is this changing, you know, the inputs that go into that report? And as the former CFO, how do you kind of think about managing that project in terms of locking in supplies ahead of time, you know, versus on an as-needed basis?
spk06: Yeah, I mean, I kind of touched on this earlier. Ultimately, I think we're going to see and we are going to see initial capex increase. And part of that is due to the inflations and what we're seeing from a cost pressure standpoint. And the engineering group and our team have foresight to be able to put that in and ultimately impact our costs. As far as locking in supply costs, I think the business that we're in, gold's obviously a natural hedge to inflation that we don't need to get way ahead of ourselves and lock in costs. The other aspect to that is the Mexican pesos depreciated against the US dollar as an underground vein miner. A significant portion of our cost structure is labor. 30% to 33% is the labor of our three existing assets, and that's no different at Terranera. So I think if you do see runaway costs from an inflation standpoint, you'll see our labor costs probably stay relatively the same in terms of US dollars. And ultimately, silver and gold is that hedge against higher cost pressures in the world. And there's going to be short-term blips, but ultimately we expect to be at tear and error for 15, 20, 25 years. Nothing that we can do in the short term will help us over that length of time. And we've got to take the long-term focus on tear and error rather than short-term. Now, of course, when it comes to our construction decision, how well can we lock in those prices over the next two years? And we'll look to do that as best we can. But at this point, we have no strategy on buying everything up front.
spk04: Okay. And then the second question is, and I know, you know, Terranero is going to be a big change for this company. But in terms of where you talked about optimizing your operating cost profile in the second half, and you may have touched on some of this earlier, but what do you think are the key things
spk06: variables that you're that you're really focused on to do that and what do you think how much of a reduction do you think you can achieve uh the key aspect right off the get-go is labor um as i touched on a lot of the one-time items that rolled through guanasevi but then also acquiring we've acquired uh supplies here in q2 that we'll be using in q3 and q4 so there's no particular item that we're trying to lock in, it's almost everything. We saw it across everything, transportation costs, et cetera, et cetera. The key to us is ensuring that we hit our grades and we hit our tonnage. And if Balanito's in Gowanus City, I'm confident that we're going to be able to hit that here in the second half of the year. And ultimately, with taking all those one-time costs out, that we'll be able to get our costs in line to what our expectations were at the beginning of the year, somewhere in the $19 to $20 all-in sustaining cost range. It's a little bit of everything. It's not one thing. Okay, thank you. That's very helpful. Thanks, Mark. Good questions.
spk03: This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dan Dixon, CEO of Endeavor Silver, for any closing remarks.
spk06: Thanks, Operator. I want to thank everybody for joining our call today. I know the big aspect and one of the biggest catalysts for the company is going to be Terranera. It's going to take our production profile and double it and ultimately cut our cost profile in half. So we have a big quarter coming ahead of us. We do expect the final feasibility study to be out this quarter, and we will be putting a webcast together for that feasibility study as it's the importance of the company. So hopefully we can talk again soon, and thank you for all the questions.
spk03: This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.
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