Fortune Brands Home & Security, Inc.

Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call

2/16/2023

spk03: Greetings. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Fortune Brands fourth quarter 2022 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there'll be a question and answer session. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Lee Afsek, Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Affairs. You may begin our conference call.
spk01: Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Fortune Brands Innovations fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings call and webcast. Hopefully, everyone has had a chance to review the earnings release issued earlier. The earnings release and audio replay of the webcast of this call can be found in the investor section of our website, fbin.com. I want to remind everyone that the forward-looking statements we make on the call today either in our prepared remarks or in the associated question and answer session, are based on current expectations and market outlook and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those currently anticipated. These risks are detailed and are various filings with the SEC. The company does not undertake any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as may be required by law. Any references to operating income, margin, EBITDA, earnings per share, or cash flow on today's call will focus on our results on a non-GAAP before charges and gains basis, unless otherwise specified. Please visit our website for a full reconciliation. Joining me on the call today are Nick Fink, our Chief Executive Officer, Pat Hallinan, our Chief Financial Officer, and Dave Barry, who, as we recently announced, We'll be succeeding Pat as our next Chief Financial Officer in early March. Following our prepared remarks, we have allowed time to address some questions. I will now turn the call over to Nick.
spk09: Thank you, Leigh, and thank you to everyone for joining us today for our first earnings call as Fortune Brands Innovations. As we detailed during our recent Investor Day, Fortune Brands Innovations is a growth company powered by Secular Tailwinds underpinned by leading brands, innovation, and channel management, and supported by our Fortune Brands Advantage. Before we begin, I want to thank the thousands of Fortune Brands Innovations team members across the globe for your continued dedication and commitment to excellence. Our people are the foundation upon which our business is built, and you are the drivers of our next phase of growth. I would like to recognize the Monster Brand Associates who contributed so much to Fortune Brains. We wish you well on your exciting journey ahead. I also want to take a moment to congratulate Dave on becoming our next Chief Financial Officer. As part of our well-established succession planning process, Dave has gained finance leadership experiences throughout the company and has distinguished himself as a true partner to me and our teams. I'm excited for us to be working closely together. Finally, I want to sincerely thank Pat for his leadership and friendship over the last six years as CFO. Pat, while you will be missed, I know that we are in great hands with Dave. Our teams delivered an impressive year in the face of a challenging environment while also executing several key initiatives. The actions we took, including the separation of our cabinets business and our reorganization into a highly aligned operating model, will enable Fortune Brands innovations continued long-term growth and sustained value creation. Let me speak for a moment about the 2022 results of Fortune Brands Home and Security, inclusive of Cabinet's results through the full fiscal year. Our teams delivered net sales of approximately $8 billion, a 4% increase over 2021, as well as 20 basis points of margin improvement amid a softening demand environment and channel inventory reductions. Full-year EPS were $6.32, an increase of 10% versus 2021. As we previously said, following Labor Day, there was a significant slowdown in U.S. single-family new construction and R&R demand as higher interest rates and inflation impacted affordability and typical seasonality returned to the businesses. In response to the slowdown, our teams took decisive actions to reduce our fixed-cost base and to preserve our margins. However, we also maintained investments in our key strategic initiatives, including our digital transformation, brand building, and incremental capacity, critical to our long-term growth. While our full-year margin expansion was not at the levels we initially targeted at the start of 2022, our margin results are impressive in light of the abrupt shift in the marketplace dynamics as a result of the Fed's rate actions. Focusing now on the 2022 performance of Fortune Brands Innovations' continuing businesses the company generated sales of $4.7 billion for the full year, down 2% from 2021. Importantly, the company's performance over the last three years demonstrates our team's commitment and ability to create long-term value during both growth periods as well as through near-term disruptions. Since 2019, Fortune Brains Innovations has grown net sales at a three-year CAGR of 11.8%. Our organic sales CAGR during this time was 8%, against an estimated market CAGR of 6%. Notably, we also expanded our operating margin 130 basis points to 17.1%. Even as we face an expected down market in 2023, our guidance reflects our commitment to continued outperformance and long-term growth. I'm confident in our ability to drive value for our shareholders regardless of the external environment, and I am excited for the future. Going into 2023, we are fully aware of the challenges we face ahead, particularly in the first half of the year. We will remain proactive in our response to any short-term headwinds while continuing to focus on outgrowing the market, preserving margins, generating cash, and prioritizing strategic investments. We remain excited in the medium to long-term potential of the housing market and are confident in our ability to deliver outsized results as we focus on the supercharged growth opportunities within our categories. Our Fortune brand's advantage capabilities will continue to advance our growth and margin journey by reducing cost, informing our strategic and pricing strategies, and enabling our higher growth focus areas like connected products. Our newly aligned and more efficient structure is intended to remove unnecessary duplication, accelerate our leadership in brands, innovation, and channel, and will allow us to more quickly deploy our Fortune Brands Advantage capabilities across the portfolio. Importantly, we also continue to be driven by our culture of doing the right thing. As evidenced by industry-leading safety records, leading ESG programs, and our focus on innovative products that help address some of the world's most pressing sustainability and safety issues. Turning to our fourth quarter performance, Consistent with what we signaled last quarter, our businesses saw demand levels decline abruptly following Labor Day. Fortune Brands Innovations net sales declined 7%, while operating margin improved 110 basis points to 17.3%. These sales results were driven by the slowing macro environment and channel inventory reductions, coupled with strong prior year comparables driven by industry-leading 2021 service level performance. Given these challenges, Our teams continue to focus on right-sizing the cost structure of the business as evidenced by margin performance in the quarter. Our sound balance sheet and advantage capital structure enabled us to strategically deploy capital, both organically and inorganically. In 2022, we repurchased $580 million of shares and completed three strategic acquisitions, namely Flow, Solar Innovations, and Aqualisa. Also, As we announced at the end of last year, we have signed a purchase agreement to acquire two world-class businesses from Assa Abloy, the Emtek premium and luxury door and hardware business, and the US and Canadian Yale and August residential smart locks business. This disciplined acquisition, which we continue to expect to close around mid-year, would be a strong accelerant to our connected product and luxury portfolio strategies. Turning to the remainder of our remarks today, first, I will share what we're seeing in our end markets. Then I will highlight key takeaways from our fourth quarter and full year results. Finally, Pat will provide highlights on our financial results, and Dave will share our thoughts around our future financial performance expectations for 2023, including how we intend to manage the P&L and balance sheet through the anticipated period of softness while advancing our previously communicated long-term goal of achieving a net sales growth CAGR of 6% to 9% operating margins of 20% to 22% and EBITDA margins of 23% to 25%. Now, turning to some thoughts on the market for our products. As anticipated, our fourth quarter was marked by accelerated reductions in demand and continued inventory destocking across the channel, as well as a return to typical seasonality of demand patterns. Orders for new single-family homes dropped precipitously versus prior year as consumers paused on new home purchases. As a reminder, in previous periods of mortgage rate increases, consumers and builders typically take two to four quarters to adjust to the new levels of affordability, and we believe this adjustment is currently underway. In repair and remodel, activity slowed following Labor Day and continued at a depressed pace through the fourth quarter as normal seasonal demand patterns returned to the industry. Finally, in China, the housing market continued to be soft as Chinese consumer confidence and continued COVID mitigation strategies weighed on investment. We expect these macro challenges to continue into 2023, driven by temporarily depressed new construction starts and housing turnover, reduced consumer spending, and continued channel partner inventory normalization in select parts of the business. However, as we've consistently stated, we have confidence in the underlying fundamentals of the housing market and believe our products and brands are uniquely positioned to outperform. As the Fortune Brands Innovations portfolio is now more heavily weighted towards smaller ticket repair and remodel items, or in the case of our security business, a more market agnostic, our products are less exposed to market cyclicality. Additionally, as we have previously discussed, Fortune Brands Innovation's product portfolio is increasingly focused on our supercharged categories, those parts of the market with the highest potential for growth due to their secular tailwinds. Our leading brands and quality products inspire loyalty and confidence in categories where brands matter, especially in challenging environments. Our brand power, innovation, and best-in-class service provides a unique value proposition. Our focus on innovative products and operations are drivers of growth, productivity enhancement, and margin expansion. And finally, our category management expertise and strong customer relationships give us insights into consumer and customer behaviors and trends that enables greater consistency and pricing discipline. Let me be clear. We are well aware of the challenges that we are facing in 2023, and we have already taken significant and meaningful action in anticipation of the environment. Importantly, we are doing so in a thoughtful and disciplined way. Our experience management team has successfully navigated through similar headwinds before. We will continue to protect our business while prioritizing investment in a tight set of key strategic priorities to win for the long term. Now let me turn to our fourth quarter and full year performance. Total company sales were down 7% in the fourth quarter, with full year sales down 2%. Uppering margins were 17.3% for the fourth quarter and 17.1% for the full year, an improvement of 110 basis points and a decline of 20 basis points, respectively. These results reflect a recalibration of many aspects of the macro environment, including a slowing market for our products, continued channel inventory reductions, a return to normal seasonality, as well as sales declines in China due to the continued COVID mitigation efforts. Looking forward, we believe that these headwinds will dissipate as the housing market stabilizes, inventory levels normalize, and inflation continues to decline to more manageable levels. While we still expect additional challenges, we believe we are prepared for the disruptions to come and are optimistic in our ability to outperform the market as it normalizes and returns to growth. Now turning to our individual businesses. Beginning with water innovations, Sales declined 9% in the quarter and 7% for the year, driven by lower-than-expected volumes, including lower sales in China and inventory destocking throughout the channel following our industry-leading 2021 service-level performance. Fourth-quarter declines were partially offset by the impact of the extra fiscal week and the Aqualisa acquisition, which is being rapidly integrated. Fourth-quarter Moen US POS was only down low single digits, and we saw continued POS growth in the U.S. for House of Roll. Water Innovation's operating margins were an impressive 24% for the quarter and 24.2% for the year, driven by continuous operating improvement, fixed-cost reduction initiatives, and price realization. While we focus on preserving our margins and returning to above-market growth across the segment, we continue to make critical investments in our key priorities. These investments in branding and innovation resonate with consumers and help highlight our value proposition during a time in which consumers may be more selective about their product choice. Additional investments in capacity and distribution, including our recently announced West Coast Distribution Center, will allow us to better serve our customers and improve our already best-in-class service experience. Despite the headwinds experienced by Water Innovations in 2022, our results over the last three years give us confidence in the segment's ability to outperform the market. Our three-year net sales growth CAGR is 8%, both organically and inorganically, which compares to market performance of around 6% during this same time. During this three-year period, we also saw 270 basis points of margin expansion. We remain confident that the business will maintain its market-beating top-line performance with margin appreciation over time. In addition to consistently producing excellent products backed by a brand people trust, Moen is well positioned to capture the outsized growth associated with the secular tailwinds of connected products and ESG. At the recent CES show, we introduced the newest member of our integrated smart water network, the Moen Smart Sprinkler Controller and Smart Wireless Soil Sensors. This product has incredible water conservation potential and is already receiving a lot of positive attention and external recognition and awards. Importantly, it adds another note to our own smart water ecosystem, which continues to deliver increasing value to consumers. I encourage everyone to visit our website to learn more about how we are revolutionizing the way people connect with water. Our House of Roll portfolio is performing very well as our brand, product, and showroom strategy increasingly resonates with luxury consumers. The House of Roll generated mid-teen sales growth for the year and remains well positioned to capture increasing share of the luxury plumbing market in 2023 and beyond. Finally, in China, sales declined approximately 30% as COVID mitigation efforts impacted new construction activity and consumer confidence. Due to the quick and decisive actions of our team, the business remained profitable. Despite the external challenges, the team continued to execute their strategy of pivoting towards growth from R&R and category expansion, which will deliver for us as the market stabilizes. Turning to outdoors and security, sales were down 5% for the fourth quarter and increased 6% for the full year. Operating margin for the segment was 14.8% in the fourth quarter and 14.5% for the full year, driven by pricing. Our results reflected the soft market for decking and inventory destocking across the segment as more typical seasonality returns. Our decking business is increasingly optimized for operational and sales outperformance as we accelerate our journey to refine the Fiberon brand. Our POS indicates that we have maintained our overall share of a market that we continue to believe will gain in popularity as consumers increasingly understand the value proposition of our advanced material decking products. Our Thermature and Larson brands continue to remain the brands of choice for consumers and professionals, and our recently acquired Solar Innovations brand is integrating well, finishing the year with very strong performance. Consumers and customers gravitate towards the value proposition that these brands bring, including innovative features, dependability, and attractive designs. We are exploring new synergistic product offerings between these brands which we expect to drive incremental future growth. Finally, while sales for our overall security business were down low single digits due to destocking of locks and safes, our commercial security business remained strong, with low double-digit growth in the fourth quarter. As expected, our outdoor and security brands faced significantly softened demand this past quarter. We have already taken actions to streamline the businesses, positioning us well for the future. Longer term, We continue to be confident in the secular tailwinds driving outdoor living and the conversion to advanced materials, as well as the inherent ESG tailwinds and growth in the commercial security space as safety continues to remain a critical topic for employers across the world. We will be focused on expanding our presence in these highly attractive categories. The segment's long-term performance is impressive and demonstrates our ability to outperform even in the face of challenging environments. Our three-year net sales growth CAGR for the segment is 17% or 9% on an organic basis, compared to market performance of around 6% during the same time. During the same period, we also saw 140 basis points of margin expansion. We remain confident that over time, the business will produce above-market sales and margin appreciation. To reiterate, 2022 was a year of transformation for Fortune Brands. We took steps to reshape the business while also preparing for an expected downturn. I'm immensely proud of everything our teams achieved this past year, while also delivering impressive results in an increasingly challenging macro environment. We successfully executed a spinoff of our cabinets business well ahead of our timing expectations, which we expect will unlock greater shareholder value for both companies by allowing us to focus on and invest in our unique growth opportunities. We rebranded our entire company with our new identity reflecting our evolution as a business focused on driving accelerated growth in our categories through brand and innovation. To enable this focus and better leverage the Fortune brand's advantage capabilities, we reorganized the company from a decentralized structure with separate businesses to a more aligned and efficient operating model. These transformative changes will enable us to deliver on the long-term growth and margin targets we set forth during our investor day and will also help us navigate the short-term challenges that we will face in the year ahead. In 2023, which Dave will speak to in greater detail, we expect to successfully navigate the challenges ahead while focusing on driving above-market growth, preserving margin, and generating cash. We will proactively manage through the short-term while actively positioning Fortune Brands innovations for the future and expect to be an even stronger, more efficient business when the markets return to strength. I'm confident in our ability to perform because we have already proven our ability to perform through all cycles, including over the last three years. Our team has executed exceptionally well, including growing the company above market through a monumentally disruptive period. We believe that we have already digested a great deal of the impact from these disruptions. As we begin 2023, we're seeing supply chains and customer inventories starting to return to more normalized levels. In short, we expect a challenging external environment in 2023. However, we are facing into it with focus, alignment, and ambition. We're confident in both the long-term fundamentals of the housing market and Fortune Brands innovation's potential for accelerated outperformance when the market returns to growth. I will now turn the call over to Pat to summarize our 2022 results, and then Dave will talk about our 2023 outlook. Pat?
spk05: Thanks, Nick. I'm immensely proud of what Fortune Brands has accomplished over the last decade, and I am confident in the team's ability to continue to outperform the market and accelerate value creation. As a reminder, My comments will focus on results before charges and gains in order to best reflect ongoing business performance. Additionally, unless otherwise noted, the financial results presented will reflect Fortune Brands Innovation's performance from continuing operations. Finally, all comparisons will be made against the same period last year, unless noted otherwise. For the fourth quarter, sales were $1.1 billion, down 7%. or down 9%, adjusting for FX and the impact of the 53rd fiscal week. Consolidated operating income was $196 million, down 1%. Total company operating margin was 17.3%, an improvement of 110 basis points. EPS were $1.07. For the full year, sales were $4.7 billion, down 2%, also down 2% adjusting for FX in the impact of the 53rd week. Consolidated operating income was $809.7 million, down 2%. Total company operating margin declined 20 basis points to 17.1%, with second half operating margin improving 80 basis points. Our EPS were $4.24. As a reminder, the company did not allocate any 2022 interest expense to cabinets as part of the separation. To reflect, the year began with 10-year treasury rates below 2% and 30-year mortgage rates below 3.5%. Persistent inflation resulted in an unusual pace of interest rate increases from the Fed, which sent treasury rates upwards, decreased housing affordability, and slowed demand for housing following Labor Day. In the face of this rapidly changing environment, our teams took actions to protect the business while preserving investment and key strategic priorities. We remain highly focused on driving out performance over time, including above market growth and margin progression. I am confident the company will achieve the long-term targets set forth in our recent investor day. Now let me provide more color on our segment results, beginning with water innovations. Sales for the fourth quarter were $641 million, down 9%, or 11%, excluding the impact of the 53rd week and FX. Fourth quarter results reflect the impact of the slowing global market, continued inventory destocking, and strong prior year comparables from our leading service levels, partially offset by price. For the year, sales were down 7%. Looking forward, we believe we will have worked through the remaining channel inventory reductions and unfavorable prior year service level comp dynamics by the end of the first quarter. Water Renovation's operating income was $154 million in the fourth quarter, up 5%. Operating income for the full year was $623 million, down 2%. Operating margin was 24% for the quarter and 24.2% for the full year, reflecting cost reduction actions and price realization. Despite the real challenges we faced this year, our water innovations brands are still effectively competing in their markets. Our POS data for this segment is solid compared to the overall market, as our total brand proposition continues to resonate with customers and consumers. Turning to outdoors and security, sales for the fourth quarter were $490 million down 5%, or down 7%, excluding the 53rd week and FX, driven by channel inventory reductions, the softer market environment, and strong prior year comparables partially offset by acquisitions. For the full year, sales were $2.2 billion, an increase of 6%, or an increase of 5% excluding the impact of the 53rd week in FX. For Doors, which includes our ThermaTru, Larson, and Solar Innovations brands, sales were flat in the quarter as price offset the slowing housing market. ThermaTru delivered an exceptional 2022 driven by innovation and strong customer service. We remain excited about the future of our Doors businesses as we work to bring additional innovative solutions to consumers as we integrate these brands to accelerate value creation. Decking sales were down over 30% in the quarter, as wholesale channel inventory reductions more than offset high single-digit retail POS. We believe channel inventory reductions will be finished by the end of the first quarter, and sales growth will track POS beyond that point. Security sales were down low single digits in the quarter as retail destocking of locks and safes more than offset low double-digit growth in our commercial products. We will continue to invest behind our brands and innovation to align the portfolio with secular growth tailwinds of commercial and connected security and safety. Outdoors and security segment operating income was $73 million during the quarter, down 11%, reflecting operating inefficiencies from volume declines associated with the channel destocking. Operating income for the full year was $312 million, up 2%. Segment operating margin for outdoors and security was 14.8% in the quarter and 14.5% for the full year. Turning to the balance sheet, our balance sheet remains strong with cash of $643 million net debt of $2.0 billion, and our net debt to EBITDA leverage is 2.1 times. A portion of the proceeds from the dividend from cabinets was used to pay down our variable rate debt. We finished the year with the full $1.25 billion available on our revolver. Our 2022 free cash flow of $330 million was lower than our expectations. Our lower free cash flow was driven by higher working capital due to sales reductions within supplier lead times and inventory investments to mitigate supplier risk due to COVID, lower operating income, and the payment of spin-related transaction fees during the quarter as a result of the accelerated spin timeline. For 2023, we have initiated actions to reduce our working capital balances, primarily via inventory reductions, and are targeting a higher cash conversion ratio for 2023. In summary, our teams delivered strong 2022 results in the face of a challenging environment. We transformed the business for long-term value creation, and we also positioned the company for an uncertain 2023 by altering our cost structure and prioritizing cash generation. We will continue to strategically invest in those priorities we believe will generate the highest returns and will best position the company for long-term growth. I will now turn the call over to Dave to discuss our 2023 outlook.
spk07: Thanks, Pat. Before turning to the details of our outlook for 2023, let me first provide some thoughts on the market backdrop and our approach to creating value regardless of the environment. We believe that strong demand fundamentals in our core markets support a multi-year housing expansion. However, we expect near-term housing affordability issues will result in a challenging 2023. If history is any indication, it is during challenging periods that Fortune Brands distinguishes itself through exceptional performance. We will confront such instances in 2023 as we have in the past by appropriately managing our P&L and balance sheet while preserving strategic growth investments. Our focus for 2023 will be on delivering market-beating sales performance, preserving margins, and generating cash. By executing against these priorities, Fortune Brands Innovations will be well positioned to re-accelerate our growth and margin improvement journey when the housing market normalizes. With that backdrop, let me discuss the specifics of our 2023 outlook. We expect the global market for our products to be down between 6.5% and 8.5%, with the U.S. housing market also declining 6.5% to 8.5%. Within this market forecast, we expect U.S. R&R declining between 4% and 6%, U.S. single-family new construction declining between 18% and 22%, with starts down around 25%, and the China market for our products to be down between 15% and 20%. Based on these assumptions, we expect full-year net sales to be down 5% to 7%, with operating margins between 16% and 17%, implying decremental operating leverage of between 25% and 30%. We also expect EBITDA margins of between 19% and 20%. We expect decremental leverage in the first half of the year to be higher than the full year target as one-time production inefficiencies and stranded costs from our inventory reduction efforts impact the P&L disproportionately relative to the full year result. The first quarter will be impacted most acutely. Based on these assumptions, we expect full year EPS within the range of $3.60 to $3.80. This outlook assumes volumes continue to decline as the housing market and overall global economy cools. If these challenges abate more quickly, this may create upside to our forecast. We should have better insight into these potential upside opportunities by the middle of 2023. As the macro environment evolves, we may revisit our guidance as merited. Now, let me speak to our outlook for each segment as it relates to our overall guidance. Beginning in the first quarter of 2023, we will report outdoors and security as separate segments. We expect water net sales down 5% to 7%, with segment operating margins around 23% to 24%. Outdoors net sales down 6% to 8%, with segment operating margins around 13.5% to 14.5%, and security net sales down 2% to 4%, with operating margins around 14 percent to 15 percent. We expect 2023 free cash flow of approximately $475 million and anticipate a cash conversion rate of around 100 percent. Our free cash flow forecast includes capital expenditures of $250 to $300 million, inclusive of growth investments in water and outdoors, that are expected to meaningfully enhance our operations and productivity. Additionally, we are executing plans to reduce our inventory by 175 to 200 million and made meaningful progress against this target in the fourth quarter of 2022. Our balance sheet remains sound, and we expect to return to strong cash flow generation in 2023. Further capital deployment will be a function of the timing around the closure of the pending acquisition of the ASSA ABOI assets, our overall leverage ratio in the context of the macro environment and business performance, and availability of value-creating alternatives. Consistent with our track record, following organic investment and paying an attractive dividend, M&A and opportunistic share purchases remain our top allocation priorities. The annual EPS outlook includes the following assumptions. Corporate expenses, including investments in our ongoing digital transformation of about $110 to $120 million. Note, we continue to optimize our total SG&A to align to the new structure and size of the business and have made meaningful progress against our SG&A improvement targets outlined during Investor Day. interest expense of approximately $110 to $115 million, a tax rate around 23.5% to 24%, and average fully diluted shares of approximately $128 to $129 million. As discussed, we are going into 2023 fully aware of the challenges we face, and while we have already taken meaningful actions, we are prepared to take further actions if necessary. However, we also believe that much of the external disruption stemming from the entirely unique COVID era is behind us, allowing us to focus on growing above market and generating cash. We remain confident in both the long-term fundamentals of our market and our ability to reach the targets we have set forth. I will now pass the call back to the operator for questions. Thank you.
spk03: Thank you. We'll now begin taking a limited number of questions. Since there may be a number of you who'd like to ask a question, I ask you to please limit your initial questions to two and then re-enter the queue to ask additional questions. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad at this time. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing star one. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question is coming from Susan McClary from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now live.
spk02: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. My first question is a bit higher level. You know, obviously 2022 was a very big year for the business. You did a lot around the reorganization, the cabinet spin. Can you just give us an update as we've come into the first couple weeks of this year, how things are progressing with that? And I guess, you know, how is the changes that you've made impacting how you're thinking about the forward trajectory of the business and the ability to continue to outperform?
spk09: This is a great question. So I want to take that from the top, you know, certainly. you saw challenges emerging in the second half of last year while we were doing an enormous amount of work right around both the portfolio and then the go-forward structure of the business. And so, all that work was really long-term in nature, We also leaned into what we saw was going to be a very tough environment to allow us to streamline, take costs out, and really make the business foster more agile and even more responsive than it has been historically. And so, you know, certainly saw that slowdown, as Pat referred to, you know, even more so through past the Labor Day period. And we're very, very clear-eyed. 2023 is going to be a challenging year. then you saw our view about what we expect the market to do. But that said, you know, we've got the team and we've got the experience to manage challenging times. With our new aligned structure, we've now got rules than ever. And what I mean by that is, you know, you've seen what we've been able to do with the Fortune Brands Advantage, right, since 2020, which has delivered market-beating growth and offset headwinds all through the COVID period while driving margins up. This new structure allows us to take those capabilities and play them across the entire portfolio with far greater speed than we had when those capabilities were purely siloed inside of different businesses. And so it is an efficiency play for sure, but it's far more than that. It's an effectiveness plan. It's a growth play because we know that we have very, very strong world-class capabilities in different pockets of the business. And now we're going to drive them with absolute speed. So, you know, as, we come out of this, we go, it's going to be a tough market. But I look back at the last, you know, three years, and, you know, the CAGR of the business is north of 8 percent. You know, margins have grown 270 basis points over that period. And we've had to digest so much in terms of, you know, a slowdown and then acceleration and supply chain challenges and inventory piling up at our customers' customers that was even hard to see, and then taking that out. Now as you look into 2023, it's going to be a tough market. But I think we're going to have to digest a lot of that noise, and we can face into a tough market just clear-eyed, knowing exactly what we need to do. And as Dave said in his remarks, it's during times of challenge that this company truly distinguishes itself. And I think with this new structure, we're going to be able to get off to that even faster and then come out of this period with truly accelerated growth going forward. So, you know, somber about the market, but excited about what this company can do.
spk02: Okay, that's very helpful, Collar. And then I guess, you know, thinking a bit more specifically about 2023, can you talk to the expectations around input costs? What are you seeing from an inflationary perspective? And the ability to hold price against that, you obviously made a lot of progress on the price side in 2022. How are you expecting that will come together this year?
spk07: Hey, Sue, this is Dave. I can handle that one. So I'll start with your inflation deflation question and then get to price. You know, we're expecting, I'd say, modest deflation, but not banking on deflation by any means to deliver the margin targets both this year or long term. So if you think about our COGS base for Fortune Brands Innovations, which is roughly $2.8 billion, we see freight and material deflation of roughly one percentage point of that at the high end. though this is offset by continued inflation elsewhere in the business. So labor, inflation has been pretty sticky. Some indirect items that we purchased, inflation has been pretty sticky. And I think it's important to note that our key metals, you know, such as copper and zinc, have given back a lot of their declines from the middle part of 2022. And so we're not seeing a significant benefit at this point in the metal side, maybe a bit in freight, but kind of coming in, I'd say, second quarter into the second half of the year. So kind of modest deflation and not banking on a big tailwind. And then on the price side, yes, we've taken price to cover inflation. I think we've also taken price, you know, based on the strength of our brands and innovation and consumers. You know, we've talked about in prior calls, consumers have been willing to continue to purchase our products. And we see our sales rates, you know, at the POS level. perform ahead of market. So the consumer is getting value as well with our price increases. And so as we look at the year, you know, we expect low single digit growth from price. And about half of that is going to be carryover price. And about half of that is new price. And most of the new price is coming in the water segment as we see the world right now.
spk09: I'll just give a little color shoe on pricing, how we think about pricing strategy because I think it's an important part of your question. You know, over the last few years, we've invested in building pricing capabilities inside of the business and invested in data and tools and pricing analytics. And that really allows us to know kind of where and how to take price. in a way that delivers, you know, not just for us, but for our channel partners. You know, part of our goal is to deliver margin-hunting for our channel partners. And to keep the equation in the favor of the consumer by driving your brand value and innovation to the consumer. And so, you can sort of see, you know, go back to that, you know, the three-year CAGR, which Dave went through in his remarks, has outperformed the market probably by, you know, 200, 250 basis points, all while growing margin. You can see the consumers returning kind of the the pricing equation as long as we're continuing to drive brand and drive innovation that kind of sits in their favor and so you know as we get into i think what will be a tougher market uh we're going to stay clear-eyed about you know getting paid for the value that we want to invest in driving brand and driving innovation and set the business up to continue to do that and if that means you know you got to see it a little bit in a quarter here a quarter there to win share and, you know, drive consumer demand over the long term, that's certainly what we will do.
spk02: That's very helpful. And I just finally want to congratulate Pat and wish him best wishes in his new role. It's been great working with you and best of luck.
spk05: Thank you, Sue.
spk03: Thank you. Next question is coming from Matthew Boulay from Barclays. Your line is now live.
spk08: Hey, good evening, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. And I want to pass along my best wishes to Pat as well. So question on how you're seeing the year play out 2023 in terms of cadence. You've got the 6.5% to 8.5% market decline for the full year. And then you also made the comment that you see decrementals as kind of less favorable in the first half than in the full year with those inefficiencies in Q1. So I guess It would be helpful if you could put some color specifically on that Q1 outlook and then kind of outline how you're thinking about sort of top line cadence and the resulting margin progression through the year. Thanks.
spk07: Yeah. Hey, Matt. It's Dave. I'll take that one, and then Nick and Pat can add on. I'd say we typically don't give quarterly guidance, but there's some unique attributes in the first quarter that we alluded to that it's worth expanding upon. So let me start with the first quarter, and then I'll also provide some color on first half, second half cadence and how we're seeing the year progress, you know, per your question. So in the first quarter, we expect sales to decline low double digits, really driven by market softness and select channel inventory reductions, primarily in outdoors and water. You know, as we said on the call, we expect to be through most of the channel inventory declines by the end of the quarter, but still will be a headwind in the first quarter. And then within each segment specifically, we'd expect low double-digit sales declines in water and outdoors and low single-digit at security as they're less exposed to kind of the housing market and the channel inventory declines. On an operating margin standpoint, this is where there's a bit of departure here from the full year, and so I'll talk to that in a minute. But operating margin, we expect the first quarter to be at 12.5% to 13%, and that includes roughly $30 million of costs coming into the P&L from impacts of our production curtailments and stranded fixed costs related to our inventory reduction efforts. So we said on the call, we said earlier, we're targeting inventory reduction about 175 to 200 million, about 65 million of that actually occurred in the fourth quarter. But we're hanging up some unfavorable costs from production curtailments that will come off the balance sheet into the P&L in the first quarter. So if I Look at a normalized margin for us, excluding that $30 million, we'd be roughly flat to prior year. It's about a 300 basis point impact. And then within each segment, we'd expect water margins down in the low 20s, outdoors in the high single digits, and security in the low double digits for the quarter. So with that said, with sales kind of down low double digits and the margin between 12.5% and 13%, we'd expect the first quarter EPS of $0.57 to $0.61. But now let me step back and just put the year in context a little bit. So looking at first half, second half cadence, and for the first half, inclusive of that first quarter that I just talked through, we see a first half sales decline between 7% and 9% and a first half operating margin between 15% and 15.5%. And that implies a first-half decremental leverage of slightly greater than 30 percent. So, as mentioned earlier, you know, we see the first half a bit higher than our full-year average, and that's because of these stranded costs from our inventory reduction efforts. If we say the full year is about 50 to 55 million, the first half is about 40 million, with 30 of that in the first quarter, as I discussed. So, that's going to be the headwind on the margin side in the first quarter and the first half. But then as we look to the second half, we see a sales decline between 3% and 5% and an operating margin between 17% and 18%, which implies a decremental margin better than 20%, which is more in line with our historical performance during a down market. So, you know, a lot to digest there, and the business is digesting a lot in the first half and the first quarter. And we do expect the year to start off in a choppy manner, just given the volatility of builder orders and starts. But as we look forward and look in the second half, we see the business performing in a more indicative of how we would perform relative to market and with decrementals in a down market on the margin.
spk08: Got it. That's super helpful, Dave. I really appreciate that. Second one, just zooming into the very near term, you made those comments about kind of year-to-date trends, and you just mentioned at the top in the response there that you do expect some destocking and water and decking, I think, through Q1. I think I also heard you say in the prepared remarks that in some cases you're seeing customer inventories returning to more normalized levels. I'm just curious, you know, any more color on that kind of destocking outlook? How confident are you that it will be complete by Q1 across your businesses? And, you know, and if you have any color on what you're seeing in POS year to date, that would be helpful as well. Thank you.
spk09: Hey, Matt, it's Nick. I want to start and then I'll hand it to Dave. You can get a bit more color, you know, on the inventory thing. As I said earlier, you know, a lot of that build was at our customers' customers, which was unusual, particularly in water, right, with our exposure to the production plumber as they saw the surge in new construction. And so most of that, we believe, unwound itself in 2022, but there could be some trickling out in, you know, the first part of 2023. Maybe a little bit at retail, you know, a bit more decking, although we think that's, you know, that's mostly through. And if you look at decking at the end of the day, it's probably, you know, down mid to high school digits between two and then flattish to slightly down in 23. And they can give a bit more. color about that. But you got to, as you, I think, are pointing out, you sort of pit that against point-of-sale growth. And as we said in the prepared remarks, you know, we saw that come off quite a bit after Labor Day. Interestingly, though, in January, as I'm sure you've read elsewhere, it was slightly better than expected. So, you know, coming through our POS retail data, for example, it was kind of matched 2021 almost dollar for dollar, week for week. So, flattish for the month, which I think is better than, you know, we're feeling about the year. We'll see how it unfolds, but we're going to prepare the business for a much more challenging POS performance than that and see where it goes.
spk07: And, Matt, you know, this is Dave. I would just add, I think Nick did a good job of summarizing it, but as we move through the second half of last year, you know, our teams got a lot closer to our customer's with what's happening, you know, with their inventory and their customers' inventory. And so as we look going forward and continue to have those conversations, you know, it's one of the things that gives us confidence that, hey, you know, based on our market expectations right now and our sales forecast for the year, you know, there are some pockets of inventory in the channel that need to come out to normalize in the first quarter, as I mentioned, you know, within outdoors and water. But otherwise, you know, feel like we are getting to normalized levels. And then as we progress, from the second quarter on, our sell-in will more approximate our sell-out in the business.
spk08: Wonderful. Well, thank you, Dave. Thanks, Nick. Good luck, guys.
spk03: Sure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next question is coming in from Adam Baumgarten from Zellman, your line is now live.
spk04: Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I'm just curious on the acquisition front, sort of what you're seeing out there, if you're seeing any multiples come down, if the pipeline's pretty full, also just your general kind of appetite for M&A in this type of environment as we look forward?
spk09: Yeah, I'd say certainly multiples have compressed from where they were, you know, kind of 21 and even part of 22. I think you saw that a lot more risk off environment. in the later part of last year, and I expect it will be the same this year, although, you know, as we pointed out, I mean, got, you know, three smaller deals done over the course of last year. We feel very good about those, and integrations are going really well, and I think kind of, you know, our proven capacity to take good assets and put them on the platform continues to deliver for us. And I'll add that, you know, this new structure really creates a much stronger acquisition platform because now we can play all of our capabilities across acquisitions, which is exciting. And so, you know, there are some things out there, but, you know, we've also got this pending transaction for the EmTech and the U.S. and Canadian Yale SmartLock business, which we're really excited about because they are very supportive of our existing connected home strategy and an existing luxury strategy. And so there'll be great strategic accelerants. And so, you know, we're continuing to move towards what we hope will be a mid-year closing date. We're kind of deep into integration planning, cooperating with Department of Justice as they work through their case and anticipate that that will close mid-year. So I think, you know, we're probably going to be watching that closely and, of course, watching the balance sheet closely and the tough environment to make sure that, you know, we keep the strength of our balance sheet intact as we move towards, you know, hopefully closing that. And if that goes as planned, it would be great. If not, you know, there are other opportunities that are very interesting out there.
spk04: Got it. Thanks. And then just on the China revenue guide of down 15% to 20% you're assuming for the year, I guess, should that improve, you know, kind of similar to the overall business, a bit tougher in the first half and then, improve as we move through the year, or is it fairly balanced throughout the year in your assumption?
spk07: Hey, Adam, it's Dave. I'll handle that one. So let me give you a bit of context around China, and then I'll get to your question specifically. But if we look at the market there, it continues to be challenged, especially in new construction. So new starts in China are down 40%, and new sales were down 30% in 22. And so it's a challenging environment. You know, as we said, our team did a great job. delivering decrementals that preserve profitability and right-sizing the business and the level of investment for the current environment. But we expect that the market environment will continue to weigh on sales growth into 2023. Because, you know, if you think about China in the new construction side, you know, the lag from kind of a start to our product is closer to 12 to 18 months. you know, versus where in the U.S. it's going to be closer to three to six months. And so what the headwinds that we saw come through in 22 will continue to be a hangover into 23. The team has plans in place to beat the market, a consistent theme across our business heading into 23 with focused plans to beat the market. And longer term, we see China, that market transitioning more to an R&R-led market, you know, just much like the U.S., and we feel like our business is taking steps now to remain really well positioned to grow with our brand innovation and channel relationships to win in the long term. But I wouldn't, I think it's too early to say, you know, is China going to get better as the year progresses, just given the hangover we're going to have from their new construction declines last year. Okay, got it. That's helpful. Thank you.
spk03: Thank you. Next question is coming from Stephen Kim from Evercore ISI. Your line is now live.
spk06: Yeah, thanks a lot, guys. Just a housekeeping point. When you talk about POS, are those numbers adjusted for the extra week or are they inclusive for the extra week? And then when you talk about the U.S. new construction market, I think you said down 18 to 22 percent, single fam starts down 25 percent. This might be a tough question, but I'm wondering what kind of mortgage rate assumption you're sort of embedding in that outlook here. And, yeah, and I have a follow-up. Thanks.
spk07: Hey, Steve, this is Dave. I'll handle both of those. So POS, no impact from the 53rd week. So that's just kind of calendar year over calendar year. So that is adjusted out. It's a clean comp on that. And then on the housing starts, I mean, we're not forecasting much relief on the mortgage rate. So assuming the Fed continues with their actions, this year and that mortgages stay, you know, somewhere in the 6%, if not north of 6% for the year. And so, you know, we're forecasted 25% down in starts, as you pointed out. And it's, you know, a bit of an improvement from what we've seen in builder order patterns recently, right? So, we are expecting that, you know, builders are either repricing or the consumer is kind of adjusting their expectations and we're getting to more of an equilibrium. So we've got to get to improvement to get to the 25% down starts in the year, but we're not expecting on a big mortgage rate change in that assumption.
spk06: Gotcha. Yeah. And that was kind of, kind of where I was going. I think you mentioned that POS in January was actually flat year over year. So it sounded like it was, you know, better than obviously the outlook that you're laying out here. And so I guess if you see the industries see, let's say, better results in 1Q and 2Q, would that be a benefit to you as soon as the back half of the year or even sooner? I was a little surprised to hear that POS improved in January because that was really just when we started to see housing doing a little bit better there. And you saw it like almost immediately. So I'm just kind of curious, what kind of a lag do you think we're thinking about or we should be thinking about if housing does better than you think?
spk07: Yeah. And we're, you know, with our market forecast, and I'll give you a little bit of context behind our market forecast. We're actually, you recall, we forecast, you know, our product consumption, right? And so we're actually, our single family is getting worse from our standpoint as we move through the year because there is a you know, three- to six-month lag, maybe a bit longer given the completions backlog is going to move the declines that we saw last year into translating into our product demand. You know, I do think R&R will remain a bit of a wild card, though our market assumption kind of exits the year with R&R still down low single digits. I think if, you know, the consumer, if the economy, the general economy gets to something like a soft landing or consumer confidence going to remain strong. Maybe R&R has some upside to it, but we're, again, not seeing that necessarily right now. We did have a good month. There was a decent POS in January, but one month isn't making the quarter of the year, and there's still some challenges ahead of us.
spk06: No doubt. Yeah. Okay, great. That's really helpful. Appreciate all the color here. Thanks, guys.
spk03: Sure. Thank you. Thank you. We reach into our question and answer session. And ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's teleconference. You may now disconnect. We do thank you for your participation today.
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