12/19/2023

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Operator
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Good day and welcome to the FedEx fiscal year 2024 second quarter earnings call. All participants are in a listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal conference specialists by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch tone phone. And to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Steven Hughes, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

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Steven Hughes
Director of Investor Relations

Good afternoon, and welcome to FedEx Corporation's second quarter earnings conference call. The second quarter earnings release, Form 10-Q, and stat book are on our website at investors.fedex.com. This call and the accompanying slides are being streamed from our website where the replay and slides will be available for about one year. Joining us on the call today are members of the media. During our Q&A session, callers will be limited to one question in order to allow us to accommodate all those who would like to participate. Certain statements in this conference call, such as projections regarding future performance, may be considered forward looking statements. Such forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors which could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. For additional information on these factors, please refer to our press releases and filings with the SEC. Please refer to the investor relations portion of our website at FedEx.com for a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. Joining us on the call today are Raj Subramaniam, President and CEO, Brie Carreri, Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer, and John Dietrich, Executive Vice President and CFO. I now turn it over to Raj, who will share his views on the core.

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

Thank you, Steve, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me begin by thanking the FedEx team for their commitment to delivering yet another strong holiday season. This peak, FedEx has the best service offerings in the industry. This includes the most expansive global network and the fastest U.S. ground service with the broadest weekend residential coverage. Strong service and speed are also coming with a more aggressive peak transit compared to this time last year with a ground time in transit in the U.S. at 1.94 days. I'm incredibly proud of the team's ability to sustain superior service levels while we continue to transform our global network our second quarter performance reflects clear signs of progress in our transformation in what remains a difficult demand environment we are moving with speed and agility to deliver on drive which is supporting improved profitability and enabling us to maintain our earnings outlook for the year, even as our revenue expectations have moderated further. As you can see in our results, in slide six, our transformation is driving improved profitability. At the enterprise level, we delivered a 17% improvement in adjusted operating income an adjusted margin improvement of 110 basis points compared to the prior year, even as the total revenue declined 3%. These results reflect benefits from DRIVE, a continued focus on revenue quality and meaningful differentiation across our products and services as we build the world's smartest logistics network. Our focus execution enabled us to retain a majority of the high-quality volume we won over the summer from UPS and as a result of the yellow shutdown. At the segment level, ground continued to deliver outstanding results with adjusting operating income up 57% and adjusted margin expansion of 370 basis points. This was driven in part by revenue growth due to higher yield and volume combined with solid operational performance. Trade delivered strong performance as well, driving double-digit profit improvement and margin expansion of over 270 basis points compared to the prior year. Express total revenue declined due to both volume and yield pressures. These headwinds more than offset continued benefits from drive and led to a margin decline compared to the prior year. There's more work to do at Express, where we are structurally redesigning our network for speed and density. We continue to make progress at Express to unlock the value that exists across this business. Turning to slide seven. Drive continues to fundamentally change the way we work. The impact of drive is clear as our lower cost structure enables improved profitability. Just look at the powerful chart on the left hand side of the slide. Look across market cycles over the last 15 years. We have now delivered two consecutive quarters of operating income growth against declining revenues. When you step back and review how our business has performed in environments with suppressed demand, we are delivering much better profitability today than we have historically. In the quarter, we reduced costs by approximately $200 million in our surface network, including our U.S. Express operations. This was driven by shifting to a single daily career dispatch, applying dock productivity initiatives, consolidating underutilized sorts, and maximizing the use of rail. Across our air network and international operations, our drive initiatives are helping offset pressures with about $115 million in total cost reductions in Q2 primarily driven by structural flight takedowns. And in GNA, we're making significant changes to how we approach procurement and functional excellence. In the second quarter, we realized over $100 million in savings driven by reducing the use of temporary labor, leveraging the scale of the enterprise to negotiate favorable surface transportation rates, optimizing certain benefit programs, and lowering headcount. Given our progress, we are highly confident that we will deliver on our goal of $1.8 billion in cost reduction benefits from DRIVE this fiscal year. Turning to slide eight. Despite progress on DRIVE, profitability at FedEx Express was pressured by an ongoing volume mix shift and related yield headwinds. Our ability to drive margin improvement in the near term has been constrained by transitory factors, including the year-over-year decline in the U.S. postal service volume, combined with minimum required service obligations associated with our current USPS contract. and also the timing of the structural redesign of our air network. Historically, our unmatched global air network was primarily built on a hub and spoke system to support speed and global connectivity. With the rapid growth of e-commerce and as volume mix continues to shift to deferred, we recognize the need to reconfigure our network to focus on both speed and density this fundamental network redesign which we call tricolor design is momentous in our history and includes several key elements first we will deploy what we call our purple tail fleet which is our FedEx-owned assets time for delivering high-priority, high-margin volumes using the existing hub-and-spoke model. This is our Purple Network, which will be the backbone of our international priority parcel business. Second, we will retime a portion of our Purple Tail flights for what we call our Orange Network, which will operate off-cycle. This change will give us time to build density, decongest our hubs during the precious night's work, and feed into our surface networks, including our international road network, as well as FedEx ground and FedEx freight in the U.S. This provides us a differentiated capability to drive profitable, less capital intensive growth in the sizeable global deferred parcel and air freight markets. And third, we will continue to leverage our global partner network as an adaptive capacity layer, particularly on imbalanced trade lanes. This is our white network. These changes will improve utilization of our assets, increase margins, and enhance ROIC. The air network redesign is a critical piece of our drive execution at Express and will support the realization of our targeted $4 billion of total drive savings in fiscal year 2025. We are approaching this network transformation in a deliberately measured manner to ensure we continue to provide our customers with the best service levels in the industry. Simultaneously, as you know, we are executing Network 2.0. Taken together, these efforts will improve our ability to protect profitability and returns through various market environments. Big picture, we're making clear progress on our transformation and drive is having a real impact. Additionally, our team is advancing efforts to combine the strength of our physical transportation network with our digital and data driven solutions. We are leveraging our world class engineering skill base to deliver cost effective cutting edge capabilities globally. Earlier this month, we opened our first advanced capability community or ACC in Hyderabad, India. which will serve as a hub for our technological and digital innovation. I'm truly excited about the opening of the ACC and the vast opportunity to use digital to run our business better, enhance our customer experience, and generate new profitable revenue streams. Overall, I'm confident we have the right strategy and the right team in place to create significant stockholder value. In these last few months and weeks, our team's dedication to the Purple Promise has been tremendous, and I would like to express my sincere thanks to our colleagues. This performance has put FedEx in good position as we enter the final stretch for peak and deliver the best service offerings in the industry. With that, let me turn the call over to Brie.

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Thank you, Raj, and good afternoon, everyone. Revenue quality and industry-leading service remain top priorities for us in the quarter. Our ability to retain the majority of the business we won from both UPS and Yellow is a testament to the team's hard work and our value proposition, which is the best service offering in the industry. And as a result, we are gaining parcel share here in the United States and around the world. Looking at the U.S., market conditions remain soft, with Q2 demand lower than we anticipated. The industry has now experienced 10 consecutive quarters of decline in U.S. domestic average daily volume. Additionally, international market pressure continued. Despite this pressure, our Europe and EMEA teams did a great job of growing parcel volume. Let's now look at each segment. At FedEx Ground, second quarter revenue was up 3% year over year, driven by higher yield and volume. We remained focused on growing our business with the right customer and service mix to improve profitability and maintain our position as the price leader in every domestic market segment. At FedEx Freight, new customers that came over as a result of the yellow shutdown are enjoying a better value proposition and we have retained a majority of this volume. Freight results showcase our disciplined focus on revenue quality as we gain share amid the industry disruption. The market was down and revenue declined 4% as lower shipments offset an increase in yield. But on a sequential basis, our revenue decline moderated significantly as volume pressure lessened and revenue per shipment inflected positively. Revenue at FedEx Express was down 6% year over year, driven by market contraction and lower fuel and demand surcharges. Global freight pounds were down 18% year over year, driven by lower postal service volume, as well as the weakness in industrial production. Despite these headwinds, we are encouraged by the progress in areas we can control. For example, the improvement in European service levels enabled profitable share gains. With less than one week to Christmas, our focus remains on delivering outstanding service. Our networks are running extremely well, and we are receiving very positive customer feedback this peak. We are delivering this excellent service while creating new value for customers and driving customer acquisition. This holiday season, we estimate over 365 million packages will be delivered with a picture showing proof of delivery, CPOD as we call it. It's a great new feature that has helped us win new customers. CPOD and other digital tools such as Estimated Delivery Time Window and FedEx Delivery Manager provide customers with peace of mind when it comes to holiday shipments. Overall, this year's peak season has been relatively similar to last year, and it's in line with our expectations. But looking ahead, we're ready to support our customers for post-holiday returns. Our robust returns portfolio is well positioned to handle the returns that inevitably follow peak. Our portfolio includes both a pre-labeled and a no-label, no-box solution that creates convenient, seamless experiences for retailers and for consumers. Now taking a step back to look at monthly volumes during the quarter. Importantly, as I mentioned earlier, we gained parcel share in both the United States and in international markets. This is a clear indication of our winning value proposition in a contracting market. volumes have continued to improve sequentially, with ground and international export volumes maintaining last quarter's trend of growth on a year-over-year basis. Turning to slide 14. Overall, the market is competitive but rational, and we are committed to delivering on our revenue quality strategy. During the quarter, yield trends improved slightly, but the dynamics were mixed across the segments. At FedEx Ground, yield increased 1%, driven by home delivery and commercial ground, offset by ground economy. Higher weight per package and favorable customer segment mix offset a lower fuel surcharge relative to the prior year. At FedEx Freight, revenue per shipment increased 1%, with base rates strong despite lower fuel surcharges and weights. At FedEx Express, yield was pressured due to lower fuel and demand surcharges. Shifts towards e-commerce and the reopening of our international economy service in EMEA also pressure yield. We continue to focus on our revenue quality strategy. Earlier this month, we raised U.S. express and ground fuel surcharges by 1% and international express fuel surcharges by 1.5%. Looking ahead, we expect a high capture rate from our 5.9 general rate increase. We will reset our delivery area surcharges consistent with our usual practice. As we've shared previously, we are also resetting our approach to dimensional pricing for international shipments. This is moving from a shipment to a per piece dimensional pricing, which is the global market practice. We are confident in our strategy and we are balancing both volume and yield growth. Moving now to slide 15. Raj mentioned our focus on digital and efforts to identify new revenue streams. I am particularly excited about our new tracking API that we will launch in early 2024. Our tracking API is for both e-commerce shippers and platforms. providing them with best-in-class visibility for their customers, including a picture proof of delivery. This new four-fee offering is a significant enhancement for our retail customers, as well as for those third-party e-commerce platforms that rely on our data as an integral part of their value proposition. This is just one example of how we're thinking about our digital capabilities to better serve our customers and generate profitable incremental revenue for FedEx. In closing, I want to thank our entire global team for how they are executing around the world to deliver an absolutely positively outstanding peak season. And with that, I'll turn it over to John to discuss the financials.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Brie. I'll start on slide 17. Despite a revenue decline, the FedEx team delivered improved profitability with strong adjusted operating margin growth, driven by a continued focus on revenue quality and execution of the company's drive initiatives. Taking a closer look at our segment performance in the quarter, starting with ground, the team continues to deliver strong results. Adjusted operating income increased 57% due to yield improvement, cost reductions, and higher volumes. Cost per package declined 2% driven by lower line haul expense and improved first and last mile productivity. At Freight, operating income increased 11% during the quarter, driven by higher yield and increased efficiency, partially offset by lower shipments. The team continues to focus on improving profitability while navigating this lower demand environment. And at Express, profitability was pressured as impacts of softening demand on revenue were only partially offset by structural and volume-related cost improvements. Adjusted operating income at Express declined 49% during the quarter on a 6% decline in revenue. As Raj mentioned, we have more work to do at Express, and I'm confident that the structural redesign of our network and other drive initiatives once complete will make us more resilient in future periods of demand weakness. Now turning to our fiscal year outlook. Based on our performance year to date and our current view of the rest of the year, We are reaffirming our outlook for adjusted EPS in the range of $17 to $18.50. At this midpoint of the range, we're now assuming a low single digit percentage decline in revenue. This is lower than our previous assumption of flat revenue growth. The reaffirmation of our earnings outlook, despite the weaker demand environment, reflects the continued benefits of our transformation. will continue to closely monitor the global demand environment and other key factors, including inventory restocking, inflation, and e-commerce trends, which informs our view of overall expected performance. With regard to our third quarter expectations, as we've shared previously, we anticipate our typical seasonality, which implies a lighter quarter sequentially for earnings. We're also facing a higher compact ground given our exceptionally strong operating income performance during the third quarter of last year. At the enterprise level, we continue to expect year-over-year adjusted margin expansion in FY24. At the segment level, we continue to expect adjusted margin improvement in FY24 at ground. We also continue to expect freight margin to remain strong in FY24, but lower than FY23, given volume reductions and yield pressure. We now anticipate a modest year-over-year adjusted margin contraction at Express. Turning to slide 19, and consistent with previous quarters, we're providing a bridge to share how we're thinking about operating profit considerations embedded in our full-year outlook. For illustrative purposes, we continue to use adjusted operating profit of $6.3 billion, equivalent to the adjusted EPS midpoint of $17.75. As a reminder, and while our revenue performance will vary based on market trends, we are committed to delivering the $1.8 billion in structural cost savings from our drive initiatives. Importantly, while this bridge remains the same as what we showed you in the first quarter, the composition of the second bar showing revenue net of cost increases has changed significantly. We now forecast materially lower revenue but expect to achieve the same net profit impact of $500 million at the midpoint, as we proactively manage volume-related expenses and revenue quality in this difficult demand environment. Now moving to slide 20. We remain focused on maintaining a strong balance sheet, prudent capital allocation, improved return on invested capital, all while providing increased shareholder returns. Our liquidity position remains strong, ending the quarter with $6.7 billion in cash. Capital expenditures for the quarter were $1.3 billion, bringing year-to-date CapEx to $2.6 billion. And we continue to expect to achieve our target of less than 6.5% CapEx to revenue for the year. As we've previously stated, our capital expenditures will decline as we continue to reduce capital intensity by reducing facility and other capacity investment and continue to plan for lower annual aircraft CapEx. We still anticipate aircraft-related CapEx to decline to approximately $1 billion in fiscal year 26. Consistent with our capital return priority, we completed another $500 million accelerated share repurchase transaction in the quarter. This brings our total share repurchases for the first six months of the fiscal year to $1 billion and $2.5 billion over the last 18 months. Looking ahead, we expect to repurchase an additional $1 billion in common stock this fiscal year while also paying our dividend in line with our previously stated capital return plan. Before we turn to Q&A, I just wanted to comment that now that I'm nearly five months into my new role as CFO, I'm even more excited about our strategy, relentless focus on execution, and the opportunity ahead to create long-term value for all our stakeholders. I want to thank all our team members for their continued efforts and focus on our common goals. With that, let's open it up for questions.

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Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. And to withdraw your question, please press star then 2. Please limit yourself to one question. And at this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And the first question will come from Ken Hexter with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

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Ken Hexter
Bank of America

Great. Good afternoon. So I guess, John or Raj, maybe just sticking with Express to start, you know, margins were down year on year. I get volumes are down and you have negative leverage, but just to be at 1.7%, you know, we're seeing higher purchase trends, higher employee expense. I guess, what does it really take? Maybe just walk us through, one, why margins are stubbornly so low, and then, two, you're talking about a new plan in terms of the orange, purple, and white plan. Are we talking about structurally changing express and pulling additional costs out, parking more planes, pulling employees out? What does it take to get this structural margin out of this low bar? And I get you're still in the middle of your range, so I get the earnings outlook. I'm just trying to understand just the constraint on Express and the ability to get the margins up there over time.

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

Yeah, thank you, Ken. Let me start, and now John can add as he wishes here. So this has been a particularly difficult year for Express, several headwinds. this year, and many of them are transitory, but we're dealing with as we speak. So firstly, the demand surcharges out of Asia are significantly lower year over year. We've also seen the product makes shift from priority to economy traffic. And then our fuel surcharges also have been lower. Finally, as part of the strategy from USPS, they have shifted more volume from air to ground. And so that's been also the headwind for FedEx this year. On top of all this, we have seen now the market demand weakened primarily because of slowdown of industrial production across the world, which has impacted our international express freight business as well. So this is the background we're dealing with. I would say that despite this, the team has done a really good job on execution on drive. and flexing down variable costs to the tune of $1.5 billion in year-over-year expense reduction year-to-date. Clearly, Express is an opportunity for us as we look ahead. The redesign that I just talked about is very profound and would be called tricolor because it's recognizing the fact that we now have a significant mixture of freight traffic as well as deferred traffic to change a portion of the existing flight schedule to a different clock, so to speak, allowing ability to drive more, ability to fill up the traffic and improve density. And again, most importantly, allowing us to feed into not only our international road network, but also into our FedEx ground and FedEx freight network for the first time. And so this is a, Significant change, probably one of the biggest changes we've seen in decades. I think it's got the opportunity here to improve our asset utilization, improve density, improve return on invested capital in a significant manner. So I just want to also just use this opportunity to say, At the enterprise level, we have improved operating profit 17% and 110 basis points in operating margins, despite a 3% revenue decline. Let me turn it over to John to see what he wants to add.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah, thanks, Raj.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

I echo everything you said. I think the only thing I would add is that our cost structure can anticipate a little higher demand than what we saw. So we'll be laser focused on bringing out as much of that cost as possible as we go forward.

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The next question will come from Chris Weatherby with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

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Chris Weatherby
Citigroup

Hey, thanks. Good afternoon. Maybe sticking on the back of that answer, John, I guess as you think about the sequential performance and express from 1Q to 2Q, I don't think we've seen nearly since maybe fiscal 11 a deterioration in operating profit. Revenue was up sequentially. So I guess was it just a mix that was moving around or maybe misjudging what you thought the demand environment was going to look like? And then As we think about the back half of the year in Express, you're facing particularly easier comps, both on a revenue and a profit basis. So I know margin's down for the full year, but can you get margin and profit up in the back half of the fiscal year in Express?

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

So as you pointed out, there's a whole host of factors that went into the Express performance. And as Raj mentioned, we see that there will be continuing opportunities at Express. The cost in terms of the relationship with the demand will definitely be a primary focus of mine. And as we go forward, I know Bree and the team are really focused on revenue quality. And we're confident we're going to be able to manage that outcome and look forward to keeping you posted as we go forward.

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The next question will come from Helaine Becker with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.

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Helaine Becker
TD Cowan

Oh, thanks very much, operator. Hi, everybody. I appreciate the time. You know, one of the things that you talked about more on the last call than you did on this, although, Bri, you did mention that you saw a shift in postal service business to ground from air. And I know the contract is up at the end of the current government's fiscal year. So how are you thinking about incorporating the rest of the business into the network versus renewing the contract? Or maybe it doesn't make sense to renew the contract going forward?

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Good afternoon. Great question. So from a USPS perspective, yes, this was a significant headwind this quarter as it was last quarter. From a negotiations perspective, we are having very collaborative negotiations with the post office, but I think we've also been very clear that it will take quite a significant change in contractual terms and agreement to renew that contract. We continue to value the partnership. We're both at the table. And of course, we are honoring our service commitments. And with the current volume levels, that is a headwind this fiscal year. So We're still negotiating. As soon as we have a renewed contract or a decision, we'll let all of you know. I am optimistic. One way or the other, we will improve the profit situation at Express, regardless of our relationship with the post office.

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Operator

The next question will come from Scott Group with Wolf Research. Please go ahead.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Hey, thanks. So if I look, ground yields were up about 1% in the quarter. Ground volumes in November now flat. So going forward, is this still an environment where ground margin should be improving year over year? I get the comps are harder, so less improvement. But you think you still see improvement in the back half of the year in ground margin improvement? And then, John, you talked about just seasonality lower in Q3. Maybe just some directional color on how much lower and then what that means for Q4 and all that. Thank you.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Sure, Scott. Thank you. Yeah, looking at ground, we're really excited about the results we're seeing at ground. And, you know, through DRIVE and all our other initiatives, we're focused on maintaining those margins. I think we have tremendous flexibility to continue to leverage the surface modes, including rail. And Raj touched on some of those other things. In talking with the team, we also have some additional opportunities to leverage our LTL network. as well so um you know we we certainly are looking favorably on on on the ground margins going forward with respect to q3 and while i'm not going to give quarterly guidance uh historically it has been um you know our lowest profitable quarter and we expect seasonal trends to continue but a lighter uh third quarter and more moderate margin improvement in q3

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The next question will come from Brandon Oglinsky with Barclays. Please go ahead.

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Brandon Oglinsky
Barclays

Hey, good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for taking my question. So Raj or John, you know, maybe can you guys comment on your non-fuel expenses at Express? Because I see them at about $8.9 billion now for the last three quarters. And I think what has gotten investors really excited around drive is the idea that structural cost reductions are coming. So can you talk about that $1.8 billion that you want to achieve this year how much you've already seen at Express, and is there more to come sequentially on that cost structure? And for that tricolor fleet initiative that you talked about, Raj, is that a signal that you're just reallocating capacity, or should we be thinking that's a structural reduction in air capacity going forward?

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

Let me start on the latter question, and then I'll have John hit the phone. we'll size the overall capacity to what the demand looks like. And we are very important in that. In fact, we've taken down a lot of flight hours in the last 12 months accordingly. So the one part of it is sizing the capacity to demand. But within that capacity, now there's a fundamental restructuring that allows us to really improve our service on our core IP business, improve density across all our networks. and then, you know, essentially bring to a lower cost point and access some of our ground networks that are, you know, that are really unparalleled. So that's the idea with tricolor. And so let me turn it over to John for the other part.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Sure. Thanks, Raj. So the majority of our adjusted operating expense decline in the first half was the result of lower volume-related expenses as we've continued to align our costs across the enterprise with reduced volumes. In addition, as you pointed out, we're making strong progress on our drive, and we are on track to achieve the $1.8 billion in structural savings in fiscal year 24 that we talked about. It's fairly evenly spread throughout the year, with slightly more heavily weighted in the second half as some of these initiatives take hold. In Q2, Raj touched on some of the points in his presentation of structural cost reductions included approximately $115 million in the air and international permanent savings category, $200 million in surface savings, and over $100 million in GNA. So we're on track for that 1.8 as well.

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The next question will come from Jack Atkins with Stevens. Please go ahead.

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Jack Atkins
Stevens

Okay, great. Thank you for taking my question. I just wanted to go back to the air network redesign commentary for a moment. Just to be clear, was that contemplated within your initial drive program? And then I guess, were there costs associated with that in the second quarter? And if so, could you break that out? And then finally, as you sort of think about when you're going to start seeing a benefit from this network redesign, is that something we could see show up in the second half of this fiscal year, or is that more of an FY25 event? Thank you.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Thanks, Jack. It's John. So yeah, Tricolor was factored into our outlook. It's something we've been looking at for quite a while. It's very well developed. We're looking forward to implementation, and it is factored into our full-year outlook. From a cost standpoint, we're leveraging, as Raj said, the assets that we have. There may be some incidental facilities costs that we incur, but nothing that I would describe in the material category.

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Operator

The next question will come from Tom Wadowitz with UBS. Please go ahead.

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Tom Wadowitz
UBS

Yeah, good afternoon. I wanted to see if you could offer a little bit of help on what the yields look like ex-fuel, so perhaps ground and domestic express. What did those revenue per piece numbers look like ex-fuel? And then some thoughts on what the pricing environment's doing. I mean, I think there's certainly been some kind of evidence out there that UPS is competing to get business back and you're competing as well. And so I'm just wondering if, you know, you are seeing some of that and that's a point of pressure as well, just in terms of, you know, getting a bit less price than you had expected.

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Hi, Tom. Thank you for the question. It's Brie. I think the most important thing is that the market is quite rational. Yes, the yields have reset since the height of the pandemic, but I think everybody in this room fully anticipated that. As we mentioned, we continue to get a higher yield per package per segment in the U.S. domestic market than our primary competitor, and we're very proud of that. We've been able to maintain that yield leadership and take market share. So yeah, it's a competitive market, but it's overall very rational and we feel really good about the team's performance. From an overall demand or performance in the quarter, we're actually quite pleased where yield was in totality. You know, as Raj talked about, we do have some pressures from a mixed perspective, but that was more of an express story. We feel really good about ground. And actually, when you double click and we look at the market share we gained, we actually took more share in the B2B segment. So from a mixed perspective, that's helping.

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Operator

The next question will come from David Vernon with Bernstein. Please go ahead. Hey, good afternoon.

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David Vernon
Bernstein

So, Raj, I want to kind of come back to the struggles of the express segment here, obviously bopping around between sort of 2% and 4% on the margin side. You know, if you think about this in a three-year view, obviously we have a lot of plans that are in place to pull costs out, and we've got a lot of initiatives to work on this. You know, at what point do you say, like, we haven't gotten to where we want to go and we need to think about something else deeper or more structural around the business i'm just trying to like like address some investor concerns that i've certainly been hearing about you know is the margin profile here fixable and if it's not then what what's going to happen next so uh we we're very confident in the future potential for express i think if you look at the

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

I mean, you got to take a step back and look at the vagaries of the global supply chain over the last few years. And, you know, we have, you know, the pandemic was one of those biggest supply chain bullwhip effects we've seen in the last 30 or 40 years. And we are in the aftermath of that. We have seen now multiple quarters of the market being down. So here we are in a situation where we are growing faster on the market and yet the, you know, overall demand environment is weak for our sector. So, you know, the structural changes that we are putting in the Express Network are real and they are actually designed to improve our profitability and return on invested capital. I'm very confident that the margins in Express will return and the structural cost, the takeout that's continuing to take place, it will serve us very well and especially as the demand profile returns is going to be a very good opportunity for FedEx in the future.

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The next question will come from Connor Cunningham with Mellius Research.

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Connor Cunningham
Mellius Research

Hi, everyone. Thank you. Just quickly, does the lack of pilot contract limit what you can do just in terms of pulling out express costs? And then on Network 2.0, I think in the past you've talked about how you're testing that in certain markets. Just Curious on how those markets have performed relative to expectations. Thank you.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

So I'll touch on the pilot piece if I understood your question. Look, most of what we're doing here is to increase the utilization of our assets and leverage the purple network. So the pilot contract, you know, allows for flex up and flex down. But, you know, where we are now is looking to take full advantage of the assets that we have. so um you know there will work within the the um agreement constraints uh but we have a fair amount of flexibility to execute on tricolor and our other initiatives here i'm sorry i'm not sure i caught the full part of the second part of your question on network 2.0 if that's if that's your question um you know i think this fits in quite well there's no constraints We're talking about on the pilot side on Network 2.0. In fact, it's complimentary from my perspective.

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The next question will come from Allison Poliniak with Wells Fargo.

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Operator
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Please go ahead.

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Allison Poliniak
Wells Fargo

Looking at purple today, just how much of that volume that's going on a purple tail today that could go on white as an example, and if there's any context that you can provide in terms of the relative cost savings there. Thanks.

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

Hey, Alison. We didn't hear the first part of your questions. Could you please repeat it?

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Allison Poliniak
Wells Fargo

Sure. Just trying to understand in terms of the volume impact from tricolor, how much that's going on, say a purple tail today that could eventually go on white, and sort of what the cost impact would be to FedEx by doing that?

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

So, and just to answer that question, I think one of the things that you remember is that, you know, a lot of the growth that's happening in the international space is, you know, happening in the deferred space, in the air freight space, and also e-commerce. So, you know, as the future market evolves, this is the right design for us to be able to serve each part of the market with the right network in place. Now, how much, where is going to fit in, that's yet to be determined as the market evolves. But again, what we're designing for is the right network for the right kind of traffic. So we have an opportunity to be able to grow profitably in the international space.

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Operator

The next question will come from Amit Mahatra with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

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Amit Mahatra
Deutsche Bank

Thanks, operator. Hi, everybody. I guess I just want to come back to, I think, Chris Weatherly's question and talk about, I mean, typically, John, we see express profits go down, I don't know, about 50% sequentially from 2Q to 3Q. Obviously, 2Q is not what we wanted it to be, but Any sense of seasonality, normal seasonality, or is it that type of magnitude relative to where we are in the second quarter? And then just related to that, I'm having a little bit of a hard time or maybe a lot of a hard time understanding sequentially revenue was up in Express, packages were up, composite yield was up, drive savings were up, but then profits were down. So maybe you can dumb it down for me, but I really don't understand why profits would be down sequentially when all those Pieces of mix in revenue are up sequentially. Thank you.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

So I'll start with the discussion on Q3. I'm not going to be giving Q3 guidance, but as I said, I think it's reasonable to expect that, you know, typical seasonality will apply. I will say, you know, for Q3 in particular, due to FedEx Grounds' very strong performance in last year's third quarter, with ground, you know, operating margin inflecting positive by 240 basis points versus the prior year, we'll have a more difficult comparison. But I think it's fair to say, you know, seasonality will play a role. Now, with regard to the express, you know, margins and the profits, we're going to continue to be laser focused on that. As I said, our cost structure did not anticipate the higher demand. You cannot underestimate the impacts of all the things that Raj and Bree talked about. You know, if you look to the year-over-year decline in the U.S. Postal Service volume, combined with, you know, some of the minimum service requirements that are required, that really has a drag on your cost. And what I will say, too, is we're really well positioned when volumes return in light of all the initiatives we're taking right now.

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Operator

The next question will come from John Chappell with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

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John Chappell
Evercore ISI

Thank you. Good afternoon. John, just keeping with that, you mentioned a few times now that the costs were kind of above and beyond what you would have normally had for this type of demand environment and you're laser focused on it. Are those costs that I would imagine are variable that you would look to pull out pretty quickly over the course of the next couple months, especially with the seasonal slowdown in Express? Or do you have to kind of manage keeping some of those costs on as you noted, for when volumes come back. Just trying to think again about the pace of the margin improvement potential at Express. Can it happen very quickly, or do you kind of have to keep a little bit more cost on just in case the demand comes back sooner than expected?

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Great. Thank you. That's really a great question, and I think the answer is yes to all of that, right? And what I would throw in as well is maintaining our high standards of service that Bree talked about, We're factoring in all those factors, the ability to take on additional volumes when it returns, coupled with maintaining the highest quality service that Bree talked about, but also with a sense of urgency to be focused on that, which we can take out as quickly as possible without prejudicing those two very important factors.

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Operator

The next question will come from Bosco Majors with Susquehanna. Please go ahead.

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Bosco Majors
Susquehanna

Thanks for taking our questions. It sounds like the deferred day network underutilization there with your core customer has been a bigger problem than many of us realize with the bottom line of Express. Can you talk a little bit about if we get to a point where you do end up walking away or significantly downsizing that customer into next year, what are your options for consolidating that network either with some of your ground opportunities or the night network? Are there options for the day network going away sizably in addition by subtraction trend into next year and the year beyond? Thank you.

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Yeah, it's a fair question. One of the things that we have been pretty candid about is that we are planning actively for both scenarios, that we are working in completely good faith to maintain this relationship and improve the profitability and deliver the service. that USPS would like, and we think, quite frankly, that FedEx is uniquely positioned to deliver. In parallel, through our drive initiatives, we already are working our plan, if that is not the case, so that we can continue to grow, express margin, and deliver on our drive commitments, as we have previously stated.

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The next question will come from Brian Offenbeck with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

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Thanks. Good afternoon. So it was mentioned a few times that fuel was a headwind for yields as surcharges were coming down. Maybe with some context around that, did that have the timing effect? Did that have any negative impact on operating income? And sort of what do you think for the rest of this year? And then, Brie, maybe you can talk a little bit about in freight with the auction that went on a couple weeks ago. There's another one going on right now. You've closed a few facilities. Do you still think that market stays disciplined? now that some of the capacity has changed hands? Thank you.

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Yeah, great question, and we'll start with the second one first. We are seeing, yes, a very disciplined freight market, and I will say I think we're leading in the discipline freight. If you look at the volume that we took during the summer, we really like what we got. We actually were quite surprised that we found some really high yielding customers and those customers have been very vocal about the great service that FedEx Freight is delivering. And so market is rational. We're delivering a great service. Lance and the team have just done an outstanding job. And so we're continuing to be very optimistic about the margin profile in the future at FedEx Freight. I have to admit I forgot the first half of the question. Fuel, thank you. So yes, fuel was, you know, a headwind obviously at the top line and the bottom line in the quarter. Moving forward, we do anticipate that fuel overall will be a headwind for the year.

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The next question will come from Jordan Allinger with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

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Jordan Allinger
Goldman Sachs

Yeah, hi. Just a question more on the macro. Is it your expectation that there's not going to be any macro improvement for the balance of this fiscal year or maybe even for all of calendar 2024? I mean, there has been a lot of destocking. Online sales weren't too bad. And some would say consumer spend might be pretty good next year. So just sort of curious your thoughts or color on the macro expectations that you've thought through in terms of your numbers. Thanks.

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

Yeah. Thank you, Jordan. I think on the macro, we have been pretty consistent over the last few quarters about two or three things one is that the industrial production around the world continues to be weak and again that's reflected in our express freight numbers and even our domestic express numbers even though we are growing faster in the market you know we uh you know these are you know headwinds uh to the industry for the industry volume uh on a consumer spending i think the mix between goods and services, I think now that's nearly back to the pre-pandemic levels. As far as inventory is concerned, we believe that the inventory destocking phase is over, but the restocking phase is yet to begin in earnest. So, you know, we, for the rest of the fiscal year, we're not assuming any kind of improvement in these trends. Obviously, if that changes, that'll be a positive. And we are definitely, and we have said this over and over again over the last few quarters, we're focused on the things that we can control. And that's why we are so focused on the execution of drive. And again, I'm just reiterate that I'm so proud of the team for delivering, you know, meaningful bottom line improvement despite the challenges in the top line.

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The next question will come from Scott Schneeberger with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Thanks very much for taking the question. It's Brie, probably for you. Could you address, as you took a good amount of share over the summer from UPS and its situation, what are you seeing competitively out there now that we're in peak season as far as, it was asked a little earlier on pricing, but how are you holding up as far as maintaining your customers, if you could address this on large and on small and mid-sized? And, uh, and, and to go forward question as well, going into the next year and, uh, and, and, and, and how you take your hold up there. Thanks.

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Okay. Scott, let me, let me try to unpack that. I think, first of all, from a peak perspective, our peak volumes are very much in line with what we anticipated for the month of December. And from a structural pricing perspective in peak, as you know, peak surcharges are a significant contribution to the month of December, and we are very pleased they continue to be something that we are enforcing and customers really understand that. They are there to cover the incremental costs from our largest peaking customers. So from a peak perspective, we feel really good. As I mentioned, there is no question I get asked more around here. Are we holding on to all of the share that we took from UPS? And the answer I can give you is confidently yes. We gave you last quarter the 400,000 average daily packages. That's a slightly conservative number. We are tracking all accounts that we won specifically because of their concerns on the labor negotiation. The vast majority of those had an early termination clause. And to my knowledge, we have not lost a single one of those accounts. Now, of course, we do trade accounts with UPS. And we have accounted for the trades between the two of us over the last quarter. And we're still up more than 400. average daily packages in the United States. In addition, we looked at their Q3 numbers. We've gained share. And also, I think it's important to note, we gained share here in the United States, but globally, we outperformed the market. So it's a confident yes, and we have the better value proposition. I believe we have the better commercial team. I'm confident we'll hold on.

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The next question will come from Stephanie Moore with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

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Stephanie Moore
Jefferies

Hi, thank you. Appreciate the question. Maybe touching on the prior one, talking about the demand environment. First, I'm kind of curious what you're seeing on the international side of your business and just the reports of tighter air cargo markets from kind of the lower cost e-commerce exports out of Asia, if that's had any impact as of late on your business. And then more of a broader view, what's your view on when you think this volume environment might finally turn the corner here, just based on what you're seeing today? Thanks.

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Brie Carreri
Executive Vice President, Chief Customer Officer

Sure. Great question. You know, I think as Raj mentioned, you know, of course we're tracking all of the same economic indicators that all of you are tracking. And, you know, when you look at some of those indicators, you do start to see some optimism. What we're doing is we're planning conservatively. Right now, we believe that we will see FedEx sequential improvement throughout the back half, but the overall market demand will not change within our fiscal year. When we've seen the momentum, I talked about a couple of places where we've got momentum, specifically on parcel. The vast majority of that is two things. It's e-commerce and it's market share gains. When we look at the largest indicator of industrial production and what we're seeing, we're not seeing a lot of restocking in our numbers yet. It doesn't mean that it won't come, but we're not seeing it yet. One of the greatest indicators of that is actually if you look at our freight business outside of the United States, weights are not where they need to be. Shipment volume was decent, but it's really the weight that we're looking at and weight per shipment is still down dramatically as you can see in the numbers. We're planning conservatively. We're focused very much on what we can control. And of course, we'll keep you updated as things move on.

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The next question will come from Bruce Chan with Stifel. Please go ahead.

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Bruce Chan
Stifel

Great. Thanks for the time. Just maybe you want to get a follow-up on Network 2.0. If you could give us an update on where you are with the market network integration. I imagine it was a little bit slower during peak season, but you know, what's been completed at this point and what markets are next. And then, you know, maybe just a follow-up for John here in terms of the model. Where should we think about, you know, where the impact of those changes occur with regard to the outcomes?

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

Okay, Bruce, let me take the first part, and then I'll turn it over to John. You know, as we have, we are on track to, on Network 2.0 for an implementation, as we have told you, by fiscal year 27. We have announced and or implemented optimization changes in Alaska, Hawaii, Canada, as well as several locations in the lower 48. And we have learned a lot in this process. And in January, we'll announce the next wave of rollout once we get past the busy peak season. So overall, we are on track. We're learning a lot in this process here. We're building the right technology solutions and the facilities required to move forward. And I'm quite pleased with the progress.

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John Dietrich
Executive Vice President and CFO

Yeah, and Raj, what I would just add to that is that our expectations as a result of all that planning is factored into our guidance.

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Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Raj Subramaniam for any closing remarks. Please go ahead, sir.

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Raj Subramaniam
President and CEO

So thank you very much. And in closing, we are showing clear progress on our transformation, delivering an unprecedented two consecutive quarters of operating income growth and margin expansion, even with lower revenue. At the same time, we are providing our customers with outstanding service and speed through the peak and beyond. I'm very confident in our path ahead as we become a more flexible, efficient and intelligent company. Let me take this opportunity to once again thank the FedEx team members who are delivering just simply an outstanding peak. It's the best peak season I can remember in some time to come. And we also take this opportunity to wish everyone on this call and all our FedEx team members a very, very happy holiday season. Thank you very much.

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The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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