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Flowserve Corporation
10/29/2025
2025 earnings call is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Brian Izzell, Vice President, Investor Relations, Treasurer, and Corporate Finance. Please go ahead.
Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to FlowSurf's third quarter 2025 business update. I'm joined by Scott Rowe, FlowSurf's President and Chief Executive Officer, and FlowSurf's Chief Financial Officer, Amy Schwetz. Following Scott and Amy's prepared remarks, we'll open the call for questions. Turning to slide two, our discussion will contain forward-looking statements that are based upon information available as of today. Actual results may differ due to risks and uncertainties. Refer to additional information, including our note on non-GAAP measures in our press release, earnings presentation, and SEC filings, which are available on our website. With that, I'll turn it over to Scott.
Thank you, Brian, and good morning, everyone. I'll start on slide three. The momentum we built in the first half of the year continued in the third quarter as we delivered exceptional results across bookings, margin expansion, earnings, and cash flow. We remain focused on driving growth while leveraging the closer business system to accelerate margin expansion. With three-quarters of the year now behind us, we have increased confidence in our ability to meet our 2025 objectives And we are raising our adjusted EPS guidance range for the second time this year to $3.40 to $3.50. The midpoint of our revised guidance represents a 31% increase from last year and an increase of more than 60% from 2023 and highlights consistent execution of our strategy and our confidence in the growth opportunities ahead. In the quarter, we delivered bookings of $1.2 billion and revenue growth of 4%. We also continued our enduring margin expansion journey with adjusted gross margins increasing 240 basis points to 34.8%, while adjusted operating margins were 14.8%, driven by incremental margins of 115% during the quarter. Adjusted earnings per share was 90 cents, an impressive increase of 45% compared to the prior year period. We also returned $173 million of cash to shareholders in the quarter, including $145 million of share repurchases. We have a healthy balance sheet, low leverage, and we continue to see improved cash flow performance from the business. This, coupled with what we viewed as a discounted share price relative to intrinsic value, makes repurchasing shares an attractive capital allocation decision. Later in the call, Amy will provide more detail on our full-year guidance and our approach to capital allocation. She will also provide more details on the separately announced divestment of our legacy asbestos liabilities, which will further enhance our capital allocation optionality on a go-forward basis. I'm proud of all the FlowServe associates for continuing to navigate a dynamic environment while driving relentless execution of the FlowServe business system to expand margins, drive growth, simplify our product portfolio, and ultimately deliver enhanced value for our customers and shareholders. Now to slide four. Bookings for the quarter were $1.2 billion, improving sequentially by over $130 million and growing 1% versus the prior year. Our strong aftermarket franchise continued to deliver, with Q3 representing the sixth consecutive quarter of bookings greater than $600 million. In fact, two of the last three quarters have seen aftermarket bookings above $650 million. I remain excited about the opportunity to leverage our capabilities to drive further aftermarket growth. Project activity in the quarter was steady and improved sequentially, with strong growth in the power markets in solid trends across most other in markets. For the quarter, we delivered over $140 million of nuclear bookings, a record for the company. Our two largest bookings in the quarter were both nuclear awards related to two separate new reactors in Europe. Each of these bookings was approximately $30 million. Many of the project delays we saw in the second quarter did come to market in the third quarter. However, we continue to see some slowness in project timing for larger engineered projects, primarily in the energy in market. Over the last five years, we have evolved closer into a more resilient business. 10 years ago, large engineered projects often represented 20 plus percent of our bookings, which naturally led to more cyclicality based on project investment cycles. Today, engineered projects remain an important part of our business, but this mix is typically around a mid single digit percentage of our bookings. The shift in mix is driving more consistency in our bookings and revenue, allowing us to manage more effectively through cycles. We have also sharpened our focus on capturing more aftermarket opportunities while selectively pursuing the most attractive engineered projects that deliver better margins and a healthy aftermarket entitlement. For the quarter, if we were to exclude engineered pump original equipment bookings, our bookings growth was an impressive 9% across the remaining portfolio. Turning to slide five, our end markets remain stable with strength in areas including traditional power and nuclear. Power demand continues to represent an exciting and significant opportunity, while general industries is benefiting from continued industrial build out in emerging areas of opportunities like pharmaceuticals, food and beverage. Mining has been an area of excitement for us, though project deferrals have hampered bookings over the past 12 months. In the third quarter, we saw mining project activity start to pick up, with overall mining increasing over 60% versus last year. Within energy, asset utilization for large process industries remains elevated, and maintenance spending has continued as expected. Chemical remains our lowest growth in market. However, we were encouraged by improvement in North America chemical in the quarter and the potential for an improved outlook in this space. With our year-to-date book-to-bill at 1.0 times and a strong project funnel, we are optimistic about delivering on a full year book-to-bill of approximately 1.0 times. Additionally, our commitment to the closer business system should drive growth in 2026 and beyond as we leverage commercial excellence and 80-20 principles to further grow our business. Moving to slide six, let me take a moment to highlight the significant opportunities we see ahead in the power space, and specifically nuclear. Our offering of pumps, valves, seals, and actuators play an important role across the nuclear spectrum. Today, we have content in over 75% of the roughly 400 nuclear reactors operating across the globe. Our main steam isolation valves and actuators play a critical safety role in the nuclear island with other types of valves used across the balance of the nuclear facility. Our pumps are often found in the turbine island, helping to ensure the cooling process runs as intended with additional legacy pumps within the containment zone itself. Importantly, We have the critical quality assurance certificates and customer approvals necessary to leverage our technology across the global nuclear landscape. We also maintain great relationships with key industrial partners and customers around the world as flow service nuclear equipment is essential to their operations. This set of key capabilities and domain expertise that we bring to the nuclear space makes us one of a few preferred vendors for pump, valve, seal, and actuation content worldwide, positioning Fullserve for leadership and nuclear flow control for decades to come. Moving to slide seven. Today, power represents roughly 7% of our revenue, with about half of that coming from traditional power and the other half coming from nuclear. Our bookings show an evolving picture with accelerating growth across all power and nuclear growing at the fastest rate. On a year-to-date basis, our total power booked to bill is 2.0 times. The expansion of artificial intelligence, cloud computing, data centers, and broad-scale electrification are creating significant growth for power broadly and specifically within nuclear power generation. Looking forward, we see the potential for 40 new large nuclear reactors to be under construction in the next 10 years across North America, Europe, and parts of Asia. In addition, technology for SMRs, or small modular reactors, continues to progress, and we believe this technology represents an additional growth driver as expansion for the global nuclear fleet begins to accelerate. While the technology still is in the development phase, many of our SMR partners are making significant progress, and industry data suggests as many as 30 SMRs could be under construction in the next five years. The existing fleet of nuclear reactors is also aging, and we expect almost all existing large reactors will go through life extension upgrades over the next decade, providing further opportunity for CloseRF. We are working very closely with nuclear power operators to refurbish and supply equipment to enable life extensions, power uprates, refurbishments, and restarts of reactors that have previously shut down. Turning to slide eight, power and nuclear represents one of the most compelling multi-year growth opportunities for FlowServe. With our strong market position, differentiated product portfolio, and decades of domain expertise, we are exceptionally well positioned to capitalize on the accelerating investment in this space. As global electrification advances and new nuclear capacity expands to meet AI, data center, and energy security demands, we see a sustained growth cycle emerging with nuclear becoming a larger contributor to our business over the next five to 10 years. Based on our current content opportunity of approximately $100 million plus per gigawatt, We believe that nuclear flow control opportunity set could be $10 billion plus over the next decade. Importantly, nuclear carries attractive accretive margins, offering the potential to drive substantial value creation for flow serve over the long term. With the potential for double-digit growth in the nuclear and power, and our non-power business benefiting from healthy demand and re-industrialization, we believe we are well positioned to continue driving long-term growth. Before I turn it over to Amy, I will conclude by saying that FlowServe is in a strategically advantaged position. We have a robust and expanding aftermarket franchise with additional upside and capture rates, balanced by a diverse mix of industries that includes both high-growth power demand opportunities and stable recurring end markets. The Fullserve business system is driving quantifiable improvement in execution and margin expansion, and we see significant runway ahead. Our cash flow generation continues to strengthen, enabling greater capital deployment and incremental returns to shareholders. We remain focused on driving sustainable growth, expanding margins, and enhancing cash flow. all with the goal of delivering superior value for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn the call over to Amy.
Thank you, Scott, and good morning, everyone. Turning to slide nine, we delivered another strong performance in the third quarter, an outcome of our growth strategy and exceptional delivery through the FlowServe business system. Third quarter revenues were $1.2 billion, a 4% increase versus last year. In the quarter, organic sales were flat, while the MOGIS acquisition contributed three points of growth. We continue to see strong growth from aftermarket, while revenue from original equipment was slightly lower in the quarter due to the timing and composition of projects in the backlog. Our profit performance in the quarter demonstrates our execution focus. Adjusted gross margins increased 240 basis points, driven by actions taken under the FlowServe business system. including improvements in operational excellence, our 80-20 complexity reduction program, and improved cost performance. With additional leverage from SG&A, adjusted operating margins increased 370 basis points to 14.8%. This represents the second consecutive quarter of operating margins within our long-term targeted range of 14 to 16%, which we originally set out to deliver by 2027. Our ability to continue to deliver in this range well in advance of initial expectations is a testament to the more resilient business model we have created and an impressive execution by our associates around the world. Moving to the performance of our segments on slide 10, I'll start with FPD. FPD continues to deliver strong performance with another quarter of adjusted operating margins around 20%. in line with best-in-class peers. The 8020 program is driving clear results for FPD, with the year-to-date benefits from 8020 pacing ahead of our initial expectations coming into the year. Aftermarket also remains a strength, with bookings growing in the mid-single digits for the quarter. We continue to improve our aftermarket capabilities, and we see further opportunity to capture more from our large base of installed equipment over time. Bookings in the quarter were negatively impacted by lower engineered pump projects, which Scott referenced earlier, as well as some year-over-year timing of project awards. Overall, FPD booked a bill for the quarter was 1.02 times, a healthy level as we continue to grow the business, even with lower levels of large energy project activity. Turning to the FPD segment. We delivered strong performance in the quarter with bookings growth of 24%, sales growth of 7%, and adjusted operating margins expanding 230 basis points. Bookings in the quarter benefited from strong aftermarket growth as well as a large nuclear award and project activity in the Middle East. FCD adjusted gross margins increased 220 basis points year over year and 130 basis points sequentially. largely driven by improved execution and better performance from MOGIS. Combined with improved SG&A leverage and accelerated synergy realization from MOGIS, adjusted operating margins improved 410 basis points sequentially. For the quarter, MOGIS operating margins were accretive to FCD, consistent with our expectations for the business when it was acquired. The fabricated modules that hampered MOGIS and FCD margins in the first half of the year have been shipped, with the remaining exposure related to final installation and completion. With these projects largely behind us, synergies accelerating, and the MOGIS business now fully on the flow-serve business system, the team is focused on driving growth opportunities across the globe through our expanded offering of severe service fallouts. I'll add that Alice D. Biasio joined the company as our new president of FCD. We're excited to have her on board and look forward to leveraging her unique set of industrial experiences across product management, software solutions, and engineering to continue the progress in FCD. Turning to slide 11, I'll take a moment to highlight one of the many areas of significant progress within the FlowServe business system. When we launched our 80-20 complexity reduction program in 2024, we had conviction around the opportunity to drive significant value and margin improvement over time. We were intentional with the approach, focusing on individual business units within our segments and ensuring we let data lead the way. From the start, we have viewed this as a way of doing business, a process and not a project, and something we wanted to embed in our culture. Our industrial pumps business unit was the first to come into the program and is now in its second year of driving 80-20 actions. The team has made tremendous progress on a number of 80-20 pillars. First, within industrial pumps, we reduced our original equipment SKU count by 45%, leading to a more efficient manufacturing process, less working capital, and importantly, better value for our customers. While the SKU reduction had some initial impact on top-line performance, the team has quickly pivoted to maximize opportunities with a core set of products. These target selling efforts led to a 21% increase in year-to-date bookings for key customers. By reducing SKUs and focusing efforts on our best products, the team has made a difference for both our customers and shareholders. improving gross margins by roughly 150 basis points compared to last year. In addition to these efforts, the 80-20 program led us to a decision to divest the small gear pump business within the industrial pumps business unit. This decision was made using our analysis of the market opportunity, our right to win, and our ability to deliver profits in line with our expectations. After analyzing this business closely, we determined it was better off in someone else's hands. While this divestiture was immaterial to our overall financials, it is a decision that ultimately improves our profitability, working capital, and cash flow. We are focused on continuing to execute utilizing the 80-20 methodology, not only in industrial pumps, but across our entire portfolio, and we'll share more details over time. Turning now to slide 12, our continued focus on managing working capital and converting more profits into cash, combined with the merger termination payment, led to significant cash from operations of $402 million in the quarter. For the quarter, adjusting to exclude the net impact of the merger termination payment, our free cash flow conversion was an impressive 174%. As I look at our year-to-date cash flow performance, our improved working capital management under the FlowServe business system, and our healthy leverage level, I'm encouraged by our ability to allocate capital in growth-enhancing ways. In the quarter, we returned $173 million to shareholders, including $145 million of share repurchases. We continued share repurchases into October for an incremental $55 million, bringing our year-to-date repurchases through October to $253 million, with $200 million remaining on our share repurchase authorization. Looking ahead, we'll continue to allocate capital in a disciplined manner, with continued commitment to our investment grade rating. On slide 13, in another example of our disciplined approach to capital allocation, We are excited to announce today that we have reached an agreement to divest our legacy asbestos liabilities. The transaction simplifies our capital structure, reduces volatility, and improves our annual cash flow, all of which will enhance our ability to focus capital allocation on growth opportunities. We have found a great partner for this transaction and we look forward to closing the transaction in the fourth quarter. Turning to our outlook on slide 14, as a result of strong year-to-date performance and increased confidence in executing through the flow-serve business system, we have increased our earnings outlook for the second time this year. We continue to deliver strong year-over-year margin expansion and now expect to deliver over 200 basis points of margin improvement for the full year. The midpoint of our full year guidance represents a 31% increase in EPS year over year and an impressive increase of more than 60% since 2023. I'm proud of our teams, their strong delivery, and our focus on execution. In closing, our performance in the third quarter and year to date in 2025 has been outstanding. Adjusted EPS for the first three quarters of the year is up 31% versus prior year. Aftermarket growth is strong, margin expansion is accelerating, and cash flow performance continues to outpace historical levels. The 80-20 program is early in its lifecycle, but we are seeing tangible benefits with performance in the quarter in line with our long-term margin targets. And while we execute using the business system, we have been able to allocate capital to opportunistic share repurchases to drive shareholder value. These efforts, combined with healthy end markets and significant expansion in power, including nuclear, creates a compelling opportunity for profitable growth in 2026 and beyond. We look forward to providing a more robust view of 2026, including our financial outlook for the year, on our fourth quarter earnings call. And with that, I'll turn the call back over to the operator for Q&A.
Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Once again, that is star 1 to signal for a question. And we'll go right to Mike Halloran with Baird. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Scott, could you just put in context what you're seeing from an environment perspective, more of a pipeline funnel thought process. I know you mentioned some of the larger projects maybe pushing to the side a little bit, a lower percentage of the portfolio today. But if you think about what the underlying trajectory looks like both from an order perspective, from funnel perspective, how that's converting, Are we talking about a framework on a forward basis, 26 specifically, or however you want to think about it, that's pretty consistent with what your long-term thought process here is? Or do you think there's something in the environment that pushes you one way or another relative to that framework? Yeah.
Sure, Mike. Let me start by just breaking this into aftermarket and then kind of our OE business, because I think it's really important. On the aftermarket side, we delivered another very strong quarter at $650 million. That's two out of the last three now. And we've got a streak going over $600 million a quarter now for many quarters. And so we feel really confident that that continues, right? And that work is on the back of refinery utilization, chemical plant utilization, desalination plants operating, just your general health of the macro environment allows that business to continue to grow. And then additionally, we continue to drive our capture rate up. We're doing that through a lot of different levers in terms of you know making sure that we can be responsive to our customers we're in the proximity with them with our quick response centers but then we're also doing really good things to make sure that we're providing the support and service and then ultimately we think we can continue to grow that by moving more from just parts and service and repair to driving full-scale solutions and so i would say long-term growth there is is tremendous and we feel really good about our ability to continue to capitalize on aftermarket And then if you go to OE and projects, and we put this in the slides, this is becoming less important for us than ever before. And so historically, this was roughly 20% of our business, so large kind of OE projects. Now we're talking roughly single digits, less than 10% of our business. And we're doing that deliberately. That's part of our diversification strategy now. And it's really something that we're looking to do to drive cycle resiliency as we go on the forward look. With that said, we're still very much in the project game. We feel that the project environment is reasonably constructive. We talked in Q2 about project slippage. Some of those came to fruition in Q3. And I would just say the Q3 environment was slightly more constructive than what we saw in Q2. And then on the forward look, if we break this down to in markets, we're obviously very excited about power and nuclear. We think that that is a significant growth rate going forward at a tune of double-digit growth. We put out some markers there that I can talk about maybe in a follow-up question. But we also think the rest of the markets are generally in a good space. And then the other thing I would point to is in 2025 the Middle East energy projects are at a very low level in for us it's roughly a five year low. We believe that you know that doesn't go down from here there's there's a lot of opportunities in our funnel there. They just got to work through your some of the larger projects and some of the diverse projects. as we turn the corner to 2026. And so all of that said, I think we're in a good position to grow our business. The geopolitical and macro environment needs to settle down a little bit to give operators confidence in their ability to cost projects and ultimately move things over the financial investment decision line. But overall, we feel constructive about 2026 and beyond.
Thank you for that. And then follow up question is just maybe a thought on pricing, how pricing looks in the marketplace, receptivity, competitive dynamics, and how we should think about price costs on a forward basis. Appreciate it.
Sure. Yeah, you can't talk pricing without tariffs, sadly. And so we've really hammered price in the U.S. on the back of all of the tariff changes. I think we've done three or four price increases this year. What we're finding is in the run rate business, the aftermarket business, our MRO replacement business, that price has been incredibly sticky. We're seeing the peer group and the other industrials doing very similar things that we're doing there. And we feel very good that we're at a price cost neutral basis, if not slightly positive on the forward look. And so I'd say that's working and that obviously is more of a U.S. phenomenon than anything else. And then as we think about the project pricing, you know, this has always been the case since I've been here. The bigger the project, the more exciting or flagship the name of the customer or what it's doing, it seems to just attract more attention. And there's always an element of competitiveness. And so that's kind of the nature of the game there. The EPCs make sure there's there's several bidders. But I would say we're not seeing anything fundamentally different than what we've seen in the last couple of years or anything in my tenure here. And so we believe that the environment's constructive for us to be selective with our bidding, especially with the large pump projects. And when we say selective, it's making sure that You know, we have the right to win. We're working with customers that we know we can execute on. We know there's a large aftermarket content where they support that. And then ultimately bringing margins in that will drive value creation for FlowServe. And so I think we're in a good place there. We're more focused on pricing than ever before. And, you know, we feel we can be on the positive side of price cost as we go forward.
If you find that your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star two, and we'll move next to Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.
Good morning, everyone. Hey, Andy, good morning. Scott, can you give us a little more color into the margin inflection you saw on FCD this quarter? How much of the improvement was MOGIS improving versus core FCD? And you mentioned that both of your segments are in line to at least make the range of 16, 18% segment adjusted operating margin that you set for FY27. But as you know, FPD is already higher than that. So could that range end up being conservative?
Maybe I'll hit the MOGIS piece because I was there last week, and then I'll let Amy talk about just the margin progression in general at FCD, and we can touch on the pump division as well. Look, MOGIS is going incredibly well. I was in their site last week with Alice, and we had a fantastic visit, and I'd say some of the takeaways there is the integration has gone incredibly well. The FullServe business system is fully embedded. And when I mean business system, the operational excellence is in place, shop floor daily management, problem solving, how we do inventory. All of that is now embedded and operating at a level that I would say is equivalent to the rest of the FullServe peer group. We've really pushed the portfolio excellence side. And so they're on the 80-20 program now. And we look at that as a severe service kind of ball valve offering. And we're now making and we've been making rationalization type decisions with our other offering. And now we're moving into commercial excellence. And so the commercial excellence is about driving growth and making sure that we get clean orders into the facility itself. But I couldn't have been more pleased with the progress that they've made. And so in the quarter, MOGIS margins were accreted to FCD. As Amy said in the prepared remarks, the modules that had given us some concern and maybe a little bit of it were slower to deliver than what we had expected when we signed up the deal. Those have now shipped in the third quarter. And then there's minimal revenue from the modules in Q4 and Q1. And that's associated with the installation and commissioning work. And so now the focus is on bookings and driving growth. And we're excited about what that product offering could be. And as a reminder to everybody, the end markets here are mining and refining. And what we've seen in the mining space is that funnels increased significantly. We had a pretty decent booking number in the quarter, but the outlook continues to improve. And so structurally, we think the end markets will support MOGUS growth. And leaning in with commercial excellence and the 80-20 principles, we believe that we'll get to that $200 million that we keep talking about. And then lastly, I would just say this is a great example where we're applying the business system as part of an integration. And what we saw and what we see now is in a relatively short period of time, we can take a family-owned business that maybe wasn't highly focused on business process and turn that into something that we're extremely proud of that we know can drive enhanced margins to the FCD portfolio, but also drive enhanced growth with our customers and Outlook here.
Yeah, and Andy, I just add with respect to FCD, we improved 410 basis points sequentially. You don't do that without all boats rising within the FCD platform. And we've been talking about some of the levers that we had available to us, whether or not that's operational excellence and some footprint decisions that had been executed in late 2024 going into 2025. as well as other tenants of the Operational Excellence Program. 8020 is taking hold in the platform. We're seeing that start to contribute as well. And then obviously the story behind MOGIS as well. And so we continue to think that there's runway with respect to FCD margins. And then once again with respect to FPD, obviously a great story there as well in terms of both platforms being within the range of their long-term targets, actually FPD being on the outside in a good way of that range. And so I think we'll go through our annual planning process this year knowing the additional levers that we have to pull from a margin expansion standpoint, both in 2026 and beyond, and we'll look to reset those long-term targets in 2026. Thanks for that.
And Scott, you talked about that $10 billion nuclear flow control opportunity over the next decade. What do you think your share could be of that opportunity? And then nuclear bookings per quarter, we know are lumpy, but they seem to be rising overall. I think they've averaged higher than your specific nuclear sales exposure that you mentioned, maybe close to high single digits of bookings, high single digit percentage of your bookings each quarter over the last year or so. Could they continue to average that amount or even more over the next couple of years?
Sure.
So let's look back first, and then we'll talk about the forward look. The nuclear bookings are rising. Power in general has been up double digits for us, and we've had three quarters now over $100 million of the last four quarters for our nuclear bookings. And so I would just say with all the noise in the nuclear space in a positive way, the noise in a positive way at all the recent announcements, We only see nuclear starting to move forward with a trajectory and an inflection that's higher than what we have today. And so we're incredibly excited about the nuclear opportunity. It's why we put three slides in our presentation But maybe to frame up the $10 billion a little bit, we do have substantial share within the nuclear space. And so we're leveraging our domain expertise. We're leveraging our installed base. We're leveraging the partnerships and the quality certifications that we have around the world that put us in the forefront and allow us the opportunity to do this work as we go forward. And so we're, you know, and I would just say the barriers to entry here are really, really high, right? The quality plans and what our customers are looking for are pumps and valves and actuators that will work for the 30-year planning life. And they take it very, very seriously and and getting an in stamp in the US is incredibly hard. And so we just feel like we're in a great position to carry on with this work with companies that we've worked for for decades. And so we're excited about the prize. We did put some kind of market share numbers in there and it's to orient folks. There's roughly 400 plus nuclear reactors out there in the world today. We have equipment in 75% of those, and we called out some geographies because it is important. In North America, in Europe, we do incredibly well. We do really well in Korea, and then we believe we can do well in India as they're going forward. And so those are the areas that we'll target. Obviously, China is a massive market and growing more reactors than any other region at this point. With China, we have installed base in the early reactors and the early facilities. But over time, they've shifted to a more nationalistic approach on all of their equipment. And so that's why we've deliberately kind of excluded that as we talk about our numbers. And then as you build to the kind of the $10 billion prize, We put some numbers out there around 40 reactors in the next 10 years that could have up to $100 million of content for flow serve. We talk about SMRs progressing and moving forward, and we believe we're well positioned with what we think are some of the winners in the SMR technology. And so there's a large contribution in the $10 billion number on the back of SMR. And then our aftermarket today is roughly $100 million of bookings a year. That number only grows with our increased installed base. And so we feel very comfortable that that continues, if not grows pretty aggressively over the 10-year period. And then finally on the last category there would be extensions and re-rates and then kind of where we're bringing assets back to life. And this week, both Google and Brookfield announced two projects of bringing existing sites back online over time. and i would just say those are incredible opportunities for flow serve and so one of those examples we have pumps and valves installed and we'll you know we will absolutely be a part of that project and in the other one the pumps and valves that we did manufacture got pushed to a different site um or actually two different sites um but we're confident that we'll pick back up that work and so Again, we feel like we're in an advantage position. We've got the expertise, and we're leaning in to make sure that we'll position our offering to capture the full benefit of this nuclear growth.
Appreciate all the color.
Our next question comes from the line of Dean Dre with RBC Capital Markets.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Dean.
Hey, I'll start with a congratulations on the announcement regarding the legacy asbestos. It's such a smart move here. We've seen companies like Honeywell do this successfully. And if you just take us through, like, am I correct that you paid something less than $200 million to resolve this? And can you just clarify what the cash flow implications are?
Sure. So one, thanks, Dean. You know, this was something that we were excited to get done. It just made sense given our cash position and obviously puts us in a great position going forward to have a more simplified approach to capital allocation. And so we think that the benefits will range from a cash flow perspective between $15 and $20 million a year. Going forward, we do have about $200 million, $199 million left. of cash that we'll allocate to this sale in the fourth quarter of the year. But for us, this is about really simplification of the capital structure, doing an 80-20 on the administrative work that we do in the FlowServe corporate office and taking out some volatility for our investors in the process.
Great to hear. And Amy, just sticking with a free cash flow, it's outstanding this quarter. And you were clearly, you laid out how you were excluding the windfall from the deal termination. Is there anything else within the free cash flow, the working capital, any kind of improvements that you would cite there? And what does this mean for free cash flow for the year? Because it looks, this puts you ahead of plan.
Yeah, so I think that as we look at free cash flow now, we're targeting something at the 100% level or a little bit better. I think for us, really, free cash flow starts with margin expansion. That's the quickest way to improve a free cash flow for any company. But working capital has been a huge focus. And we've made some improvements there. 80-20 is actually helping us with the process, even decisions. that we made during the quarter around the small divestiture paid dividends in terms of simplifying the inventory that we need to keep on hand. But I'll just point out with working capital, and if I didn't remind you, Scott would remind me to remind you that our work is not done. And so we continue to have a substantial amount of improvement that can be made in this area. And we are focused on it. We are focused on it at the leadership team level. We're focused on it at the platform level and at the BU level. And so we're going to continue to do everything that we need to do to make free cash flow a real strength for FlowServe and its investors.
And Dean, just to reiterate, we talked about this last month, but 80-20 helps on working capital dramatically, plus the Operational Excellence Program. And so we're not done. We've made progress. We're not celebrating our working capital numbers right now, but we feel like we're moving in the right direction in a very positive manner.
Yeah, that's really great to hear, and congrats on the progress to date. Thank you.
Thanks.
We go next to the line of Damian Karras with UBS.
Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning.
Scott, I appreciate your comments on the certifications required to compete in nuclear pumps and valves. But I just wanted to ask how you're thinking about the profitability of these awards. When I just think about how your industry has sometimes behaved in the past, it's gotten pretty competitive when you have these mega growth cycles, you know, just like thinking about past oil and gas booms where, you know, the OE margins were, you know, slim to none. So could you maybe just talk a little bit about, you know, where you are, you know, projecting these nuclear awards you've been winning to line up kind of relative to the rest of your project base? And, you know, just as the capacity build out for nuclear continues, how you're thinking about how to price that in your bidding process.
Yeah, I think it might be helpful to just kind of walk through the life of a new build nuclear reactor and I would just say these are very different than even kind of an oil and gas project or a water project or anything like that. And the amount of years on the front end to get the process dialed in fully and to ensure that the quality requirements are at a place that they're comfortable with is multi-years. And so when we went and worked on a new reactor, it's somewhere the time horizon for us is somewhere in that kind of four to five year mark to where we before we can start shipping equipment and those first three years are all about engineering and quality and so i i just feel like as we go forward and we think about the the folks that are designing these type of reactors you know that's a westinghouse it's your edf it's your korean nuclear authorities Like for them to make a change in terms of what they've been doing historically and introduce a new supplier is really it's really, really difficult to do. And so the barriers to entry here are incredibly high. With that said, obviously, we have to perform and we have to perform with delivery. We have to perform with increasing our capacity to support the nuclear growth. And we've got to perform with our ability to be competitive to allow their financial decision to get over the line. But again, we've worked with these players for decades. We're very confident in our ability to retain that type of work, if not grow that work. And so we're leaning in on our opportunities. We're making sure that we can support the industry, and we're making sure that we can support our customers in the regions where they're operating.
Yeah, and Damien, I just add one thing from a color perspective. I was with our sales leadership team on the pump side as well as our BU leaders last week. And there is focus on two things in this space. One, making sure that we have the resources in place to support these opportunities. And that includes adding nuclear expertise at the corporate level within FlowServe. But it also means that we're making sure that we remain competitive and that we're doing things to not be complacent about our cost structure where we can to really continue to protect this business, the margins, and keep those barriers to entry as strong as we can.
That's all really helpful. And I wanted to ask a follow-up question on the asbestos transaction. Are you anticipating that is going to have any impact on your cost of financing? And curious what you plan to do with this newfound increased balance sheet flexibility? Sure.
So, probably from a financing perspective, I would say it's credit enhancing, but given the size, you know, probably not too terribly impactful. I think overall, we find ourselves in a position at FlowServe where we have more opportunities for capital allocation than ever before. We've made some of those decisions in the fourth quarter already with some opportunistic share repurchases in in October as well as earmarking a little under $200 million towards this transaction. But I think what you've seen us do over the last several quarters is pretty indicative of the disciplined approach that we'll take. We're focused on sort of growth opportunities and earnings enhancing opportunities around around capital allocation, and so it's going to be environmental specific. It made a lot of sense for us to buy back shares over the last few months. We'll continue to keep that at the ready. We've got about $200 million of authorization still available to us under our share repurchase But over time, we're also interested in growing the business. And as Scott pointed out, you know, the MOGIS, kind of the MOGIS turning point in the third quarter, their adoption of the closer business system, us now turning our attention to really growing that business over time gives us more and more confidence that M&A, utilizing our strict criteria around value creation can be a powerful tool for us over time with respect to capital allocation.
Thank you for all your thoughts. Best of luck with everything. Thank you.
We'll go next to the line of Brett Lindsey with Mizuho Securities.
Hey, good morning all. Congrats. I wanted to come back to the energy business and apologies if I missed, I jumped on late, but The bookings down 19%. I was just hoping you could drill down a bit on some of the moving pieces there. And does any of the quoting in that segmentation inform this could be, you know, snapping back in the coming quarters here?
Sure. Yeah, when we think about the compare versus last year, it was a difficult comp. We had three large projects in the Middle East that were all energy, you know, a year ago. And then those didn't repeat this year. And so I think that's the easiest way to describe that. You know, energy on the OE side for us is primarily Middle East. It's a lot of that kind of midstream processing and storage and then also on the downstream side. And, you know, we had a lot of activity last year and, you know, quite frankly, we're in a little bit of a lull right now with the Middle East energy type project bookings. With that said, I feel confident that there is work to do in the Middle East. There are a lot of plans to move forward with some of the investments that have already been made public but have been delayed in terms of that project timing. And so we're incredibly well positioned to capitalize on that growth. And I would say with just a little bit of stability in the system, maybe oil pricing coming back a little bit to provide them a little bit more cash flow to fund new projects, we could see a positive trajectory here in 2026 and beyond.
Yeah, that's great. And appreciate the detail on nuclear. I guess as a, you know, thinking about the content and some of the ramp over the first three years, is there anything to be aware of in terms of development costs and how that might play out, you know, as you're ramping for some of these opportunities? Or do you think you can simply just repurpose some of the R&D to these areas?
Yeah, for us, it's a relatively low development cost. We are working with some of the SMRs on maybe some modifications to our existing products to support a slightly different reactor. But overall, this is not big dollars for us in terms of needing to redevelop our products. And so a lot of this is just making sure that we're meeting the current requirements and and that we can adapt to what's happening in the space. And so I wouldn't expect to see from us any massive incremental expense to make sure that we're positioned to win this work.
Okay, great. Thanks for the detail.
We'll go next to the line of Nathan Jones with Stifel.
Good morning, everyone.
Hey, good morning, Nathan. guess i'll dig a little bit more on the nuclear side of it um 10 billion of flow control opportunity over over 10 years uh maybe looking for a little bit more color on what your expected market share is i don't know andy uh asked about it but i'll see if we can get a little bit more color on it i mean when you look at uh large utility scale reactors that have been out there for decades. Now, I'm sure you understand what your market share is on that, maybe a little less so on the SMRs, given they're really still under development. But I'm just hoping you can give us any color on what your expected win rate on that kind of $10 billion worth of content over that time period was, because 5% market share is very different to 50% market share of that opportunity.
Yeah, so Nathan, I'll point to slide six where we talk about the current market share, and I'll try to give some color on the go-forward basis. And so of the 416 reactors that are out there, we have content in 75% of that. And so that could be a pump, it could be a valve, it could be our in-seals, but we're very well positioned. And in my comments earlier, we do really well in North America with the Westinghouse Technology Program, We do really well in Europe with Westinghouse and EDF technology. We do really well in Korea. Where we don't do well today is in China. And historically, we have done well in China, but just because of their policy and moving to domestic supply, even though we have a strong presence in China, we typically will not win the new Chinese work. And so then if you think on the go-forward basis, who is involved with the forward North America growth, the forward Europe growth? what's happening in potentially India, in China, or sorry, in Japan and in Korea, we're incredibly well positioned there with those operators. And so on the valve side, I would be disappointed if we did not have the highest share of main steam isolation valves where we have the primary product globally for the main safety valve and all the nuclear reactors. We have large content on the cooling pumps. We put a number out there at kind of a 50%. I think we can maintain that on a go-forward basis. And then we are moving back into some of the reactors with the primary cooling pumps within the reactor itself. We haven't done that work in a long time, just given the lack of some of the newer builds, but we're starting to secure our position there. I fundamentally believe that our market share could actually go up as we reposition some of our products to take on the balance of plant. But I think you could expect us to be a market leader here, certainly within pumps and valves on the go-forward basis.
And so the $10 billion excludes China?
We did not put China in our estimates.
Got it. I would figure the biggest ticket item coming out of here would be the pump, and that greater than 50% of currently operating reactors with flow-soaked pumps would probably be reflective of the biggest dollar opportunity. Is that correct?
I think that's fair. Yes.
Okay. I think that gives a bit more color on potential win rates. So I'll leave it there. Thanks for taking the question.
Okay. Thank you, David.
We go next to Joe Jordan.
jordano with td cowan please go ahead hey good morning guys good morning so i think we all appreciate the the need for the power gen pick up here and nuclear is a logical way to do this like as you chase this business we're throwing around a lot of numbers right all the companies like 80 billion here 100 billion there all these gigas like how do you one like can we build all this stuff and do How do you have to think about who's backstopping this? Like, you know, on the SMR side, we're talking a lot of new companies making big commitments with, like, you know, no revenues at this point. So how do you kind of judge where you want to chase and, like, how solid is the ground that you're walking on when you do it?
Yeah, those are really important questions. Let me start with capacity and then we'll go to our customers and how we think about that. On the capacity side, again, we've been doing this for decades. We have a designated facility for valves in North America. We have a designated facility for pumps in Europe. We can expand capacity at both of those sites. We're looking at making nuclear center of excellence is where You know, we can put all of our product together into a site that then allows us to leverage the engineering, the project management, the quality and things like that. And so I would say we're confident in our ability to ramp. Back to some of my previous comments on this is when you win an award, you've got three years of office-type work in engineering and quality before you start delivering the equipment. And so you do have lots of visibility in terms of making sure that you've got the capacity and The other thing I would just say is on the supply chain, that is an area that we're working today to make sure that we are investing in our suppliers to ensure that they can come along on the journey with us to participate and allow us to deliver as expected. And so I'm highly confident in our ability to expand capacity and to keep up with the industry, at least at this point in time. And then on the customer side, this is a dynamic landscape, and there's announcements it feels like every week or every month in terms of some of the players here. And obviously, it's attracting a lot of money. And names like Brookfield and Google and Amazon that are funding and backing some of these projects with large dollars just to make sure that these reactors can get back online and be a part of the power on a go-forward basis. With that said, we have been selective in who we are working with. And we have hired what I'll call a nuclear expert that worked with the NRC for a couple decades and then worked in the White House. And so he is helping us to be really selective on where we put our resources and where we put our efforts. And so we identified a few of those customers on our slide here. But I would say on the SMR side, we've narrowed that list down to kind of 10 to 12 players that we're actively engaged with that we believe will be successful in the long run. You know, I don't think we'll be 100% right there, but if we're at least 60 or 70% right on who we've chosen, then we're in a really, really good place from a partnership perspective. And so I'd say we've been very methodical about our approach and making sure that we're not overburdening some of our business development and engineering resources on the front end of this to get locked in into the future.
And then as a follow-up on that, are there any obvious gaps in the portfolio where you can tuck in new product that would be specifically geared towards nuclear? Is it fair to think that given your commentary about the timing, like as you guys report Ks in the coming years, would we expect like the percentage of delivery over the next 12 months at a backlog to kind of move down, commensurate with the amount of bookings you're doing in this sector?
Yeah, I'll let Amy hit the backlog conversion. I'll start with the other one.
Yeah, so I think from a capital allocation standpoint, as we look at attractive end markets, nuclear is certainly one of them. We try and take a pretty good product approach for all we do on the M&A front. And so that sort of starts with mapping what we have, what we don't have. And although we're pleased with our product portfolio at this point in time, I think there's always ways that we can look to strengthen that portfolio through M&A.
Yeah, and so I think the thing for us is we may have some pumps on a facility. We may have a mainstream isolation valve, but not have the control valves or not have the butterfly valves. And so really the focus is making sure that we can package more of our content together as we work on these new projects. And so that's the effort right now. There's a huge opportunity in front of us. And then to Amy's point, you know, what we are looking to do is, you know, potentially on the programmatic M&A side is, you know, acquire other companies that may have the certifications and may have that installed base, you know, already in there, you know, where you're not having to work through some of those barriers to entry that I talked about before.
And then the backlog conversions?
Oh, on backlog conversion, I would say overall, last year you started to see this in the context of our backlog with that ticking down to kind of mid-80s overall for flow serve. And I think we'll see that continue in some ways around the nuclear portfolio. I will say that that is being slightly offset by the strength of our aftermarket business. So our aftermarket business, which converts relatively quickly is at historical highs, and we're continuing to be focused on that. So those two tend to offset a bit, but I would say there's probably slight pressure on backlog conversion with the nuclear content.
Thanks, guys. We'll take our final question from Andrew Obin with Bank of America.
Hi, yes. Good morning. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Excellent. So just nuclear bookings have been great. But, you know, if you look at underlying power bookings ex-nuclear, it seems that they've been quite weak this year. I think we calculate down high teens. What is this a reflection of? And does core power pick back up? Because I would imagine the power gen trend is broader than nuclear. Yeah.
Yeah, I think in the quarter for the traditional power, it might just be a little bit of a timing impact. We are seeing investments in all forms of power. And so you're seeing coal-fired power plants get extended where we have a lot of content on both pumps and the valves. We're seeing new kind of single cycle, combined cycle plants going forward where we may not have as much content, but we do have content there. And I would say this phenomenon is happening all over the world. And so You know, we're excited about that opportunity. It is a more competitive type environment. And so we've got to be really selective in terms of making sure that, you know, we can get the right product and for the right customers that, you know, folks that value our aftermarket. And so I just say that's that's we're a little bit more selective here, just given that, you know, the wider, you know, the broader kind of competitive offering with the traditional power set.
Gotcha. And just to help us understand, you know, last year bookings grew 9%. This year bookings are sort of flattish. So how do we think about the relationship, you know, given that you're changing a business model, how should we think about the relationship between bookings and revenue? And just how do this year's bookings translate into hitting the 5% revenue target next year, right? Because the 9% bookings growth last year haven't really flowed through the P&L's top line.
I'll let Amy talk about the conversion to revenue. I'll talk a little bit about the growth. And so we're obviously right at kind of a book to bill at 1.0 is what we're committing to, and the growth this year on bookings is lower. And we said this earlier, but a lot of that's your Middle East kind of OE project business has come down. When we think about the rest of the business, all other aspects excluding kind of OE Middle East or OE energy projects, has grown at 9%. And so we actually feel like we're doing a nice job growing and leaning into that growth. We need that kind of energy bookings to come back in 2026 to kind of get us back to what we want. And the last thing I would say is on the commercial excellence in 80-20, the teams are incredibly focused on growth. So commercial excellence is 100% about growth and aligning the sales organization the right way with the right incentive structure and the the right project pursuit strategy and all of that good stuff to capture more share. And then on 80-20, we're now starting to move more and more into the growth side of 80-20. We showed some numbers with our industrial pumps that's growing our target selling accounts at 21% this year. And so I do feel like that we can, with this kind of renewed commercial excellence and the 80-20 focus, we get back to this kind of 5% kind of, you know, on overtime, a 5% growth rate feels right for me.
Yeah, the only thing I'm going to add there is I think overall our conversion rates on sort of this quicker turn business is actually improving over time. The efforts that we've made around commercial excellence are reducing or around operational excellence are actually reducing our lead times. And so that combined with our aftermarket strength, which we have no intention of slowing the intensity of those efforts, does help with conversion. And so, as Scott pointed out, with the overall health of a number of the end markets that we're focused on, in addition to the efforts around commercial excellence and target selling, we see those things in conjunction with the Middle East opportunities, not just in traditional energy, but within power and water moving into 2026. as sort of more than offsetting headwinds that we see from 80-20.
Thank you.
And we have no further questions. I'll turn the call back to Brian Ezell for any additional or closing remarks.
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