11/9/2023

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Operator
Conference Operator

good morning and welcome to franco nevada corporation's third quarter 2023 results conference call and webcast this call is being recorded on november the 9th 2023 at this time all lines are in listen only mode following the presentation we will conduct a q a session where you may ask a question through the phone line or webcast if you are joining by webcast you may submit a written question for the Q&A session at any time during this call by typing your question in the Q&A section of the webcast platform. If you require immediate assistance during this call, please press star zero at any time for the operator. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Candida Hayden, Senior Advisor on Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Candida Hayden
Senior Advisor on Investor Relations

Thank you, Jerry. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Franco-Nevada's third quarter 2023 results. Accompanying this call is a presentation which is available on our website at franco-nevada.com where you will also find our full financial results. Presentation is also available to view on the webcast. During our call this morning, Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco-Nevada will provide introductory remarks followed by Sandy Perenna, Chief Financial Officer, who will provide a brief review of our results. This will be followed by a Q&A period. Our full executive team is available to answer any questions. Participants may submit questions by telephone or via the webcast. We would like to remind participants that some of today's commentary may contain forward-looking information and we refer you to our detailed cautionary note on slide two of this presentation. I will now turn over the call to Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco de Beto.

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Paul Brink
President and CEO

Thanks, Candida, and good morning. We were saddened holding our board yesterday with an empty seat after the passing of Randall Oliphant early in September. Randall was a leader in the gold mining industry, had been a strong presence in our boardroom for 16 years, and played a big role in our company's success. It's missed by all of us at Franklin Nevada. Our core precious metal assets anchored the third quarter results. Both precious metal geos and revenues were up over the same period last year. Total revenues increased, although total geos were slightly down, in part due to gold prices being relatively stronger than oil and gas and iron ore prices. Fourth quarter geos are expected to be slightly higher than the third quarter. The Cobre Panama CP100 expansion is on track for year end, and we expect the core streams to perform well. As we had indicated following Q2, we expect to be near the low end of our geo guidance range for the year. Gold prices maintain at current levels. It will further boost revenues and financial results. Cobre Panama has dominated the news over the last 10 days. There have been substantial social and anti-mining process following approval by the National Assembly of the revised concession agreement in October. Last week, the government enacted a moratorium on granting new mining concession contracts. They also proposed but didn't proceed with a popular consultation on the new mining contract. Panamanian Supreme Court is now considering a number of lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of Law 406. Production in Cobra Panama has continued despite protest activity including road blockades. We've been in close contact with our partner First Quantum as the situation unfolds and together we are continuing to monitor it closely. Looking forward to 2024, we're expecting added precious metal contributions from a number of new mines. Most impactful will be the Tukutuzino stream, which e-mining ventures is progressing construction, and as you'd expect from that team, on time and on budget. We have a meaningful 3% NSR on Equinox and Orion's Greenstone project in Ontario, where first gold is expected before mid-year. We recently agreed to acquire an incremental 1% NSR on Argonaut's Maginot gold mine, taking our total NSR there also to 3%. Gino achieved commercial production November 1st and continues to ramp up production. Lastly, Goldfields' Solaris Norte project in Chile was 96% complete at the last report and we expect our first royalty payments in early 2024. We continue to get good news on the longer-term organic growth in the portfolio. Candelaria received its environmental impact approval from the regional Chilean authorities and I hope that paves the way for an expansion of their underground operations that they've been contemplating. On a similar note, Kinross are now considering an underground expansion of Tassius. Both Hud Bay and Canadian Nickel have released new studies, a PFS on Copper World with a timeline to production in 2028, and a feasibility study at Crawford Nickel. Lundeen Mining, again, is having great success with their recently acquired Caceronas mine, with throughput well ahead of the acquisition assumptions and aggressive exploration program planned. Marathon Gold had a simplified permitting process confirmed that would allow that the buried deposit expansion be included earlier in their mine plan. Finally, on our balance sheet and outlook, while developments at Cobra Panama have added uncertainty at one of our assets, Our business is designed to weather such events, and regardless of the outcome, our business will remain robust, generating strong cash flows with high margins. We have no debt and a cash balance of $1.3 billion. Including iron-drawn facilities, our available capital for deployment is $2.3 billion. We continue to be the capital provider of choice for many players, where equity capital is difficult to raise and debt capital is increasingly expensive. With that, I'll turn it over to Sandy.

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Sandy Perenna
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Paul. Good morning, everyone. Our diverse Rural Team Stream portfolio continued to generate strong cash flows and high margins during third quarter 2023. If you turn to slide four, the chart shows gold equivalent ounces sold for third quarter 2023, along with the previous four quarters. GEO sold in the quarter were 160,848, a 5% decrease relative to second quarter 2023, and a 9% decrease relative to the comparable period for the prior year. Of total geos sold for the quarter, precious metals were 125,337, an increase of 4% from same quarter last year. For the quarter, the largest contributors for precious metal geos were Cobre Panama, Candelaria, and Antipakai, with the increase year-over-year being from Cobre Panama and Guadalupe. Cobre Panama delivered 33% more geos than the same quarter in prior year. This was driven by higher copper grades and the continued ramp-up of the CP100 expansion project. Guadalupe geos sold were higher by 14% relative to the comparable period from the prior year, with the increase being due to higher average grades being mined. One asset which did have a weaker quarter for us compared to prior year was Antamina. At Antamina, we had approximately 30% lower geos sold than prior year. as the operator was impacted by a tropical cyclone that affected Peru's northern region in April 2023. As you will recall, there is a one-quarter lag for delivery of silver ounces from Antamina. The deliveries in third quarter related to production from April to June 2023. For our diversified portfolio, we did record lower GEOs in revenue in the quarter as energy prices were lower compared to prior year. Third quarter 2023 saw continued volatility in commodity prices as highlighted on slide five. Precious metals did see an improvement year over year with average gold prices higher by 11.6%, silver by 22.6% and platinum by 5.1%. However, palladium and energy prices were down significantly. A large component of our diversified GEOs and revenue comes from our energy assets. On a barrel of oil equivalent basis, production was slightly lower than prior year. However, as seen on the bar chart on slide six, there was a larger retreat in oil and gas prices. WTI averaged $82.26 a barrel in the quarter, lower by 10% versus the comparable quarter in prior year. And natural gas averaged $2.66 in MCF, lower by 66%. As a result, the lower energy prices impacted our geo-sold and revenue with GEO sold from our energy assets being 43% lower in third quarter 2023 compared to prior year. Slide 7 highlights our total revenue and adjusted EBITDA amounts for the three months ended September 30th, 2023 and 2022. The portfolio continues to deliver consistent performance. Revenue was $309.5 million for the quarter, slightly higher than prior year of $304.2 million, while adjusted EBITDA was relatively flat. at $255.1 million compared to $256.7 million in third quarter of 2022. The company continued to generate a strong margin at 82.4% for the quarter. As you turn to slide 8, you will see the key financial results for the company. As mentioned, GEO sold were lower for the quarter, but revenue was higher due to higher average precious metal prices. On the cost side, we did have an increase in cost of sales, which was $48.9 million, compared to $42 million in third quarter 2022. The largest component of this is the per ounce fixed cost we pay for stream ounces. We sold 97,275 stream ounces in third quarter compared to 90,237 a year ago. Depletion remained relatively flat at $68.1 million versus $68.5 million a year ago. And for third quarter 2023, adjusted net income was $175.1 million or $0.91 per share, compared to $159.7 million, or 83% per share in prior year. Slide 9 highlights the continued diversification of the portfolio. As shown, 78% of our Q3 2023 revenue was generated by precious metals. This compares to 68% a year ago. The geographic revenue profile has revenue being sourced 88% from the Americas. With respect to asset diversification, Colbray-Panama was our largest revenue generator at 22% of total revenue for the quarter, followed by Candelaria and Antipakai. The last chart highlights our operator diversity, with First Quantum being the largest at 22% of revenue. Slide 10 illustrates the strength of our business model to generate consistent high margins. On the slide, you can see that cost of sales has remained fairly consistent over the period shown. The amount of cost of sales will depend on the mix of royalty versus stream geos, including both mining and energy. Corporate administration costs, including stock-based compensation, was less than 2% of revenue for the quarter. This can fluctuate quarter to quarter, but has tended to average approximately $8 million each quarter historically. In a rising commodity price environment, we expect to benefit fully, as we do not expect our cost structure to change significantly. Slide 11 summarizes the financial resources available to the company. When including our credit facility of $1 billion, total available capital is $2.3 billion at the end of September. The company continues to be debt-free and generated $236 million in operating cash flow during the quarter. Outflows for the quarter included $66.2 million to Z-Mining Ventures for the remainder of the $250 million stream deposit for TZ. The full deposit has now been funded. We closed the Pasco-Lama royalty transaction for $75 million, and the company did declare dividends of $65.3 million during the quarter. On slide 12, we reiterate our guidance for the year. Based upon updated commodity prices, as highlighted on the slide, and our expectations of production from our royalty and stream interest for the remainder of the year, we are maintaining our guidance range for total GEO sold of $640,000 to $700,000. With respect We expect to be near the low end of that range due to the conversion of non-gold revenue to geos based on our revised commodity prices. For precious metals, the geo sold range is $490,000 to $530,000. Again, we expect to be near the low end of that range. Turning to tax matters, as you are aware, the Canadian government has announced that it will be proceeding with the implementation of the 15% global minimum tax. We expect this to be effective January 2024. For Franklin, Nevada, this will impact the tax associated with the income from our Barbados subsidiary, where the current corporate tax rate is less than 15%. However, earlier this week, the Barbados government announced that they're proposing to raise their local corporate tax rate to 9%. In addition, they are proposing to implement an additional 6% top-up tax for companies whose parent entity is subject to the global minimum tax. The specific Barbados legislation has not been released at this time. We will review and determine the impact once available. And now I'll pass it over to Jerry as we're happy to answer any questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Of course. During this Q&A session, if you would like to ask a question, simply press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your questions, please press the hash key. If you are joining us on the webcast, please submit your question through the Q&A section of the webcast platform. Now, first question comes from the line of Heike Ehler of HC Wainwright. Please go ahead.

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Heike Ehler
Analyst at HC Wainwright

Good morning, Paul Sandivantin.

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Paul Brink
President and CEO

Good morning, Heike.

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Heike Ehler
Analyst at HC Wainwright

Hey, with Antamina, in your release, you state that, and I quote, production at the mine was also impacted by cyclone Yaku, which constrained logistics in March and April of this year. This was reflected in the deliveries we received in Q3-23. You sort of hinted at this in your prepared remarks, but just to clarify this again, this issue is completely in the review mirror now, and given the delivery schedule that was agreed upon, and we can go back to our prior models on the site, correct? In other words, there should not be any follow-through to this into Q4.

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Sandy Perenna
Chief Financial Officer

Yes, that related to earlier in the year, and that's been rectified. So the delivery we would get in November will be from production from July to September.

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Heike Ehler
Analyst at HC Wainwright

That's how I figured it. And this one's a little bit more open-ended. I understand that the chart's looking quite pretty. Gold's up $240 over the past year. It's within $120, $130 of its annual high, and it's looking quite nice on the five-year chart as well. In the meantime, the GDX is close to its annual low. Franklin Nevada shares really aren't a big exception to all of this, though. Obviously, pre-market today is looking quite decent. In your view, is the broader market missing something? What are they looking for to properly reward your company and its investors? Is it more ESG for a broader base? Is it higher dividends? Is it just people have been beaten down for too long and they don't care anymore? Anything you want to share with us that you're seeing from folks you talk with on the phone?

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Paul Brink
President and CEO

I think a couple of things there, and the obvious one is the impacts of Cobra Panama at the moment, and that has had a clear impact on the stock. The other one, and in terms of the performance of the stock and where we've found that the The value creation over time is we truly have a business that's not impacted by cost inflation and cost inflation has been such a big element that's eaten into the return of mining companies over time. So one, it's been protected on that aspect of the business. The other is we have a very deep portfolio and the core thing about the mining industry is so much of the value is created at the drill bit and when the industry is able to drill has the capital and can make new discoveries, inevitably they do. And the beauty of our business is we are exposed to that, both with our streams plus an extremely deep royalty portfolio, and it's that optionality, and it's why I spoke to it a bit in my comments. You know, we continually get good news as to what's happening in the exploration portfolio, and I think that's the element that ultimately drives the future value of the company.

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Heike Ehler
Analyst at HC Wainwright

Fair enough. I mean, Cobra Panama obviously doesn't really have a whole lot of impact on the GDX. It's really just you. But I agree with the rest of your answer, and I'll get back to you. Thank you so much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Just to remind participants, if you would like to ask a question, please press the star and then the number one on your telephone keypads. And there are no further questions. I stand corrected. We have a question from the line of Brian McArthur of Raymond James. Please go ahead. Hey, Brian McArthur of Raymond James. You may go ahead and ask your question. If you have your phone on mute, could you please unmute?

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Brian McArthur
Analyst at Raymond James

Good morning. Sorry about that. I was wondering if you just go through the Barbados again. Sorry, I may have missed it because my line cut out. But sorry, is it not just going to be 15% going forward like everything else in global minimum tax? Or is there something else you were kind of going through? Because I sort of heard nine and six when you went through it. If you could just go through that again, that'd be helpful. Thank you.

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Sandy Perenna
Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So the way the global minimum tax works, Brian, is that Whatever the difference is between the 15% and the local corporate tax rate, you were supposed to pay a top-up tax in Canada based on accounting income. So, for example, we were low single digits in Barbados, and now the 15%, so assume the Delta's 13%. You would pay that 13% based on accounting income, so there would be a cash tax payable. Barbados is now increasing their corporate tax rate from... low single digits to 9%, at least they proposed to do so. As a result, that will be based on regular tax where you get the deposit treatment. And then what they're doing is they're proposing to implement a top-up tax from 9 to 15, which would be based on accounting. And so for there, there would be a cash tax payable. So essentially, you know, we're still determining the impact, but we think it will be positive.

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Brian McArthur
Analyst at Raymond James

So just if I look at your global portfolio though, will you not then just pay like on all the streams that are run through there 15% and then the other stuff that's outside for the other structured ones, you'll pay the rate in that jurisdiction on a consolidated basis. So you'll probably get something just weighted slightly higher than, you know, 15%. Is that fair or how should I think about that?

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Sandy Perenna
Chief Financial Officer

It's just, it's the split between what's going to be calculated based on tax versus accounting. there is an impact to that. We can go offline, Brian. I can walk you through it.

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Brian McArthur
Analyst at Raymond James

Great. Thanks very much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Adrian Day of Adrian Day Asset Management. Please go ahead.

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Adrian Day
Portfolio Manager at Adrian Day Asset Management

Yes, good morning. I was just wondering if you could update us how your view in the market, you know, for new streams and possibly royalties, but new streams, Yeah, yeah.

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Ian Gray
Senior Vice President, Business Development

Hi there, Adrian. It's Ian Gray speaking. As Paul commented, the gold market is quite constrained for capital, so we are seeing good opportunities there for additional royalties and streams, as you saw with our recent Magino transaction. So we're looking forward to doing more there, and I do see it as being relatively buoyant, especially on the gold side.

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Adrian Day
Portfolio Manager at Adrian Day Asset Management

Mostly development, helping development?

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Ian Gray
Senior Vice President, Business Development

Yes, I think that's a fair characterization.

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Adrian Day
Portfolio Manager at Adrian Day Asset Management

Okay, thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

And there are no further questions on the phone line at this time. I will now turn the Q&A session over to Candida Hayden, who will take questions from the webcast.

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Candida Hayden
Senior Advisor on Investor Relations

Thank you, Jerry. Our first question comes from Alex Richardson from Ananda Asset Management. Why did you decide to become so reliant on Colbury Panama for future geo growth given it is not a gold property?

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Paul Brink
President and CEO

Alex, our business has expanded over time and you know the history of the company is we've bought many royalties on gold properties and those have had tremendous shown tremendous optionality in growth over time. But a lot of the growth in our business, as you correctly point out, has been buying precious metal streams on big copper assets. And that has been a very good element that allowed us to grow the business faster. Principally, copper assets tend to be much larger than gold assets. They also tend to have much longer lifespans. So if you look at Antemina, Antipokai, Candelaria, all of those we get the precious metal from those copper assets. Not only have those assets done very well, all of them have outperformed our assumptions at acquisition. They have very long lives, and we've also seen tremendous life expansion from those assets. Probably a good example is Candelaria. Candelaria, when we helped finance Lundin to acquire that asset six or so years ago, It had a 14-year mine life. Fundy Mining's had tremendous success with the exploration program. And when we look forward today, the go-forward mine life is in the order of 25 years. So they are long-life assets, but also have the potential to get better over time. So it's been a good business for us.

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Candida Hayden
Senior Advisor on Investor Relations

Our next question comes from a private investor. Any provisions taken on the Cobre Panama situation?

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Sandy Perenna
Chief Financial Officer

Hi. No provisions, as is out there from First Quantum and ourselves. The mine is still operating, operating very well. So there's no provision, no review or impairment at this time.

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Candida Hayden
Senior Advisor on Investor Relations

Thank you, Sandeep. Our next question comes from Vincenzo at Seven Pillars Capital Management. Could you please give me some color on the contingency plan if First Quantum, Cobre, Panama were to go into arbitration? How should we think about potential claims that Franco Nevada might have on an arbitration result or if any potential expropriation of Corby Panama should occur? Is there any insurance Franco Nevada can claim?

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Paul Brink
President and CEO

Yes. So we hope it doesn't go in that direction. But if the concession were taken away from the operators, the one route for them is arbitration. What we've seen in the past is in similar sort of circumstances, international arbiters have ruled in favor of the mining companies, so you typically have seen settlements for the companies. They have been meaningful. They do have real teeth, so they ultimately do get paid. Our agreement and our contract is if there is a settlement, that we would get a proportionate share of that settlement.

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Candida Hayden
Senior Advisor on Investor Relations

Thank you, Paul. Next question is from Diego at nor stir capital management. In a scenario where Kobe Panama is expropriated, what kind of actions would you legally expect to take?

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Paul Brink
President and CEO

In terms of the comments that we've already made, the action to be taken is by the operators, and arbitration is the most likely course for them there. Again, hope they don't go down that course, and then our protections, as we've already outlined.

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Candida Hayden
Senior Advisor on Investor Relations

Thank you, Paul. There are no further questions from the webcast. This concludes our third quarter 2023 results conference call and webcast. We expect to release our year-end 2023 results after market close on March 5th with a conference call held the following morning. Thank you for your interest in Franco, Nevada.

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