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Operator
results conference call and webcast. This call is being recorded on May 2nd, 2024. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a Q&A session where you may ask a question through the phone line or webcast. If you're joining by webcast, you may submit a written question for the Q&A session at any time during this call by typing your question in the Q&A section of the webcast platform. If you require immediate assistance during this call, please press star zero at any time for the operator. I will now like to turn the conference over to your host, Candida Hayden, Senior Analyst, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Candida Hayden
Thank you, Julie. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss Franco Nevada's first quarter 2024 results. Accompanying this call is a presentation which is available on our website at -nevada.com where you will also find our full financial results. The presentation is also available to view on the webcast. During our call this morning, Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco Nevada will provide introductory remarks followed by Sandy Brana, Chief Financial Officer, who will provide a brief review of our results. This will be followed by a Q&A period. Our full executive team is available to answer any questions. Participants may submit questions by the telephone or via the webcast. We would like to remind participants that some of today's commentary may contain forward-looking information, and we refer you to our detailed cautionary note on slide two of this presentation. I will now turn over the call to Paul Brink, President and CEO of Franco Nevada.
Paul Brink
Thank you, Candida, and good morning. Yesterday we held our AGM here in Toronto, and we're pleased to have Hugo Dryland join our board. Hugo has for many years led Rothschild's metal and mining advisory business, and amongst other areas, has extensive experience in project finance and international arbitration. Hugo fills the seat left empty after Randall Oliphant sadly passed away last year. Our diversified portfolio performed well in production for the quarter met our expectations, and the Pekai geo sales were above, and Candida geo sales slightly below our expectations. Elevated gold prices boosted our revenue and translated directly into some of our highest ever margins. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 84.2%, and adjusted net income margin was 56.9%. Rilties on new mines continue to contribute to our growth during the quarter gold fuels, for the first gold at Solaris Norte and Rothschild at Myrosa. Equinox and G mining are on track for first production at Greenstone and Toca de Zinho, respectively, in the coming months. Alamos' planned acquisition of Argonaut will help realize the full potential of the Magino and the island deposits. Including a potential expansion of the Magino mill facility. Alaba reported good progress on the construction of Valentine gold, and production there is expected to start in the first half of 2025. While Cobre Panama remains in preservation and safe management, we're hopeful that the issues can be resolved. Panamanian election takes place this Sunday, May 5th. On the business development front, we closed the previously announced acquisition of natural gas royalties in the Hainesville, and added a number of smaller interests. Incremental royalty on Pasqualama, a royalty on Scotty Resources property in the Golden Triangle, BC, an increase to the Condestable gold stream in Peru, and a silver royalty on Perpetua's Stidmite Gold property in Idaho. Our organic growth typically accelerates on the back of high gold prices. A highlight for the quarter is the success that Agnico Eagle continues to have, expanding the detour Lake Gold body, and also the East Gold Eagle body at Canadian Mallardic. Wrap up, we have no debt, 2.3 billion in available capital, and an active deal pipeline. I'll hand the call over to Sandy.
Agnico Eagle
Thank you, Paul. Good morning, everyone. As mentioned by Paul, our portfolio of assets continue to perform well, and we're in line with expectations for first quarter 2024. With respect to performance in the quarter, on slide four, we highlight the gold equivalent ounces sold for the last five quarters. As you are aware, Cobre Panama has not contributed any GEOs or revenue for 2024 as it is under preservation and safe management. On the slide, we've highlighted Cobre Panama separately for prior periods. Total GEOs sold were 122,897 for Q1 2024. This compares to 145,331 for the same period in 2023. Of this, precious metal GEOs were 93,018 compared to 111,238 the prior year. However, if Cobre Panama is excluded from prior year comparatives, precious metals GEOs were actually higher year over year at 93,018 versus 82,575 GEOs. This increase was due to strong contributions from Antipokai, Guadalupe, and Cevica, all of which had strong production in first quarter 2024. This increase was partially offset by lower GEO sold for Sudbury due to lower production and stow water, which was due to the impact of converting weaker platinum plate in revenue to GEOs. In addition, we were delivered approximately 3,000 GEOs for Condistable, which remained in inventory at the end of the quarter. These ounces were not sold during first quarter and have subsequently been sold post quarter end. Precious metal GEOs represented approximately 76% of total GEOs for the quarter. For diversified GEOs, our Valet Royalty contributed an increase in GEOs for the quarter compared to prior year due to a higher than anticipated Royalty payment reflecting higher iron ore sales during the second half of 2023. As you know, each quarter we make an estimate of what the Royalty will be with the actual amount being announced by Valet in late March and September each year. As a result, you will see adjustments to revenue twice a year in first and third quarter each year. Energy GEOs were lower at 21,082 for Q1 compared to 25,952 a year ago. The decrease in GEOs is a combination of lower revenue due to weaker natural gas prices, but also the impact of converting energy revenue to GEOs using higher gold prices. Q1, 2024 saw continued movement in average commodity prices. As you see on slide five, gold and silver prices were higher for the quarter when compared to prior year. However, platinum and in particular palladium prices were significantly lower year over year, which did negatively impact conversion of PGM revenues to GEOs. Oil prices were relatively flat with natural gas being sharply lower. Slide six highlights our total revenue and adjusted EBITDA amounts in the last five quarters. As you can see from the bar charts, revenue and adjusted EBITDA are lower in Q1, 2024 compared to prior quarters. The company recorded 256.8 million in revenue in first quarter and 216.1 million adjusted EBITDA. A margin of .2% was achieved for the quarter. The lower revenue and adjusted EBITDA are due to less GEOs over the quarter compared to prior year. Impact on both revenue and adjusted EBITDA of the lower GEOs was partially offset by higher gold and silver prices. In fact, while GEOs sold are lower by 15% year over year, total revenue was lower by 7%. As you turn to slide seven, you'll see the key financial results for the company. As mentioned, total GEOs were 122,097, generating 256.8 million in revenue and 216.1 million in adjusted EBITDA. On the cost side, we did have a decrease in cost of sales compared to prior year, as we did not incur the ongoing fixed cost for ounces delivered by Cobre Panama. Also, cost of sales is dependent on which assets deliver stream ounces, as not all fixed payments per stream are equal. Depletion decreased to 58.2 million versus 61 million a year ago. The decrease in depletion was a combination of no depletion being recorded for Cobre Panama, being partially offset by higher depletion for Antifa Chi and the new Hainesville Natural Gas acquisition. Adjusted net income was 146 million compared to 152.2 million in Q1 2023, and adjusted EPS was 76 cents per share for the quarter, lower by .8% versus prior year. Slide eight highlights the continued diversification of the portfolio. From the charts, you can see that 76 of our first quarter Q1 2024 revenue was generated by precious metals, with revenue being sourced 83% from the Americans. Slide nine illustrates the strength of our business model to generate high margins. For Q1 2024, the cash cost per GEO, which is essentially cost of sales divided by gold, the one ounce is sold, was $273 per GEO. This compares to $263 per GEO in Q1 2023. Margin was approximately $1,800 per ounce in first quarter. The average gold price was higher by $183 per ounce for Q1 2024 compared to Q1 2023. At the same time, Franklin Nevada's margin was higher by $173 per ounce, or 95% of the gold price increase in the same period. A rising commodity price environment, we expect to benefit fully, as the cost per GEO sold should not increase significantly. The other cost component for the company besides cost of sale is our corporate administration costs. The royalty streaming business model is a scalable model. Our corporate admin costs have increased at a much lower rate than our revenue. Revenue has increased ninefold from Q1 2008, while corporate admin costs has increased by 2.5 times over the same period. Management believes we can continue to act to our portfolio and grow our business without adding significant overhead to the company. Earlier this year, we had guided the $10 to $15 million in estimated costs for the corporate admin arbitration. For first quarter, we incurred $1.4 million in costs. We expect the costs to be weighted more towards the second half of the year. And lastly, slide 11 summarizes the financial resources available to the company, when including our credit facility of $1 billion. Total available capital at that March 31st, 2024, is 2.3 billion. And now I'll pass it over to Jilly, and we're happy to answer any questions.
Operator
Of course, during this Q&A session, if you'd like to ask a question, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you'd like to withdraw a question, please press star two. If you're joining us on the webcast, please submit your question through the Q&A section of the webcast platform. One moment please for your first question. Your first question comes from Brian McCarter from Rehman James. Please go ahead.
Brian McCarter
Good morning, and thank you for taking my question. You've left guidance of GEOs unchanged, but there's a lot of different assumptions which you sort of talked about commodity prices moving in the first quarter. I mean, now you're much higher gold price assumptions going forward, much lower gas prices. My question really is, is there anything on a volume basis that's significantly changed that you're seeing in your portfolio since the beginning of the year, and maybe it's oil and gas, because gas prices have gone down? And secondly, it looked like -Ka-Pai versus what you give on a gold GEO basis had a pretty good first quarter. Is that sustainable or does it fall off through the year? It kind of goes into the overall volume question.
Agnico Eagle
Thanks for the question, Brian. On a production basis, as we said, the assets, both mining and energy from a production volume basis are in line with expectations. So right now, from a production standpoint, they're in line, obviously commodity prices are moving around, but we are within our guidance range at this point. With respect to -Ka-Pai, I would expect, or we do expect -Ka-Pai to fall off for the rest of the year, and still be within that guidance range we provided as part of our year-end results.
Brian McCarter
Thank you. My second question just relates to Condestable and the increase from up to .5% to 25%. I assume everything else, the points where it kicks in are all still the same. So it'll be kind of middle 2030s, or if you can guide when that 30s, you see that 25 to .5% kicking in, please.
Ian
Hi, Brian, it's Ian speaking, good morning. Yes, the change really just relates to the final rate. So we wouldn't expect the rest to change meaningfully in the mid-year to medium term.
Brian McCarter
And is mid 2030s sort of where you see that now kicking up? I just don't have the date on how that's developed since the original deal.
Ian
Yeah, I don't have that immediately handy. We are fixed deliveries, I think it was for the first five years, those come off and it goes to a variable percentage in terms of the exact estimate as to when those, the second variable percentage kicks in. I don't have that offhand, unfortunately. We can chat offline.
Brian McCarter
Great, thank you. Maybe my final question, just send deep on the accounting for the taxes on a global basis. Can you just review how you're gonna do that, given when it technically gets enacted?
Agnico Eagle
So right now it's not enacted, neither Barbados or Canada. So for the foreseeable future, our effective tax rate will be 15% roughly, but when it is enacted, assuming it's retroactive, there will be an adjustment in that quarter, which we did highlight, it'll be an adjustment to taxes of about 47 million. And as guided at the end of the year, we expect our effective tax rate to be about 19% going forward.
Barbados
Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
Sandeepa
Your next question comes from Hiko Hill from HC Renright. Please go ahead.
Hiko
Hey there, thanks for taking my questions. You've made quite a meaningful number of acquisitions here in the last few months. In your intro to the earnings release, you also state that you still have an active steel pipeline. Unsurprising, but still good to hear. Conceptually, are you seeing pricing improvements from sellers of streams that are more willing to negotiate right now? And if so, are you seeing this phenomenon more in mining or more in energy?
Paul Brink
Hi, Hiko, it's Paul. I'd say in this environment, probably the main impact is with gold prices moving up, players that have got precious metal byproducts. It's a very attractive environment for them to raise capital through the sale of a precious metal stream. So I'd say that's the predominant trend right now and that's making for an active steel pipeline.
Hiko
Fair enough. Building on that last question, I mean, with gold prices where they are, inflation levels where they are, has there been a bit of a shift with sellers looking for fixed fees versus a percentage of spot pricing as your cash payment? Or is it just the same and they more or less take whatever they can get?
Ian
Hi, Hiko, it's Ian. Good morning. I would say, in the last few months, and really the market has shifted towards a percentage in terms of the fee we pay to the seller. Fixed is far less common these days and I haven't seen any trend there recently other than to kind of maintain that.
Hiko
Fair enough. That's all folks. Thank you guys for your time.
Sandeepa
Your next question comes from Cosmos2 from CIBC. Please go ahead.
Cosmos
Thanks, Paul, Sandy, Ben and team. Maybe my first question is on Panama. As you know, the election's coming up this weekend on May 5th. Is this something that you're watching closely? Any variables that you might be watching for? And do you see a potential outcome that could impact Frank and Nevada in the near term? Or is it really a longer term sort of event too?
Paul Brink
Cosmos, yes. We're watching it closely. In the lead up to the election, and no surprise, given what happened in the country and the popular sentiment against mining and against the mine, I'd say all the candidates have been quite circumspect in terms of commenting on what their approach might be. But still, we're hopeful that with a new government in place that there can be a new dialogue. And I'm sure that First Quantum will be engaging with whoever that is to see if there is a route to find a way to reopen the
Cosmos
mine. Of course, thank you. And going to your financial statements here, I noticed that your finance income, $16 million has increased quite a bit year over year and quarter over quarter as well. I just wanna make sure, is that just due to the G mining term loan? And if that's the case, what else is in there?
Agnico Eagle
So Cosmos, the interest income is in two places on the financials this quarter. Up in revenue, you'll see interest income that relates to actual interest on the G mining loan as well as the Schena, kind of a verbal note that we did at the end of last year. So any loans we've made up that interest income is up in revenue now. And it was about 1.2 million for the quarter. The finance income you're referring to, is at 16 million. That is the interest we're earning on our cash balance.
Cosmos
Okay, okay. And is there a reason why you separate those two or just really accounting?
Agnico Eagle
It's all accounting, technical related. The loan interest, because it's related to mining assets, it's up in revenue. And we intend to do more, debt-like structures going forward. So we've included that up top.
Cosmos
Okay, sounds good. And then maybe one last question again, on the accounting side as well. I know Brian asked it earlier in terms of the global minimum taxes, but it sounds like now Barbados has their own legislation and Canada also has their own sort of legislation that's going through. Is there a situation where, in terms of timing, when legislation, the two countries are being enacted, is there a chance that things can get really complicated later on if they're enacted at different times, different quarters, or is that something that we don't really need to worry about?
Agnico Eagle
So our understanding right now, neither one has enacted the laws. Barbados effective tax rate will be 15% going forward once the law is enacted. But our understanding is it's contingent on Canada implementing the GMT. So they should both come into play at the same time, but obviously we'll have to wait and see.
Cosmos
Okay, great. Thanks Sandeepa and Paul, those are the questions I have.
Sandeepa
Your next question comes from Tanya Jackson-Skonak from Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Good morning everybody.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Some of my questions have been answered, but I've got to come back to just Hamlo. Sandy, how should we be thinking of this royalty because this one's always quite variable. What guidance can you give us for the year?
Agnico Eagle
Tanya, it was lower than I expected in Q1 considering where commodity prices were and I think for Barracks release yesterday, they had higher costs. So going forward, I think we stick with what we had guided or to as part of our year end guidance. It's probably gonna be at this stage similar to last year, but we'll have to see how the year unfolds.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Okay, and then for my mine waste solution that we're getting to the cap, so that would imply the rest of the year a bit lower. Would that seem fair?
Agnico Eagle
Yeah, so we do anticipate to reach the cap in Q4 this year depending upon how the next two quarters play out. It could be early in Q4.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Okay, now that's what we have as well. And then as we look at the year, with everything said and done, and I appreciate a lot of variability, but should we be thinking that a slightly better second half with some of the new mines coming in? And can you just remind me for Q2 and Q3 when the new contributions are coming in? So first, stronger second half, should we be thinking like 52, 53% of GEOs and then the new mines? If you can remind me who's coming in Q2, Q3.
Agnico Eagle
Sure, yes, so we do expect a stronger second half and that's just because, as you said, the new mines will be online. In Q2, Greenstone is pouring, sorry, yes, Equinox is pouring first gold for Greenstone. And second quarter, Solaris Norte tokens, Inyo-Wiji mining is Q3. I don't have the specific split as to whether it's 52, 48 or what have you, but definitely a stronger second half.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Okay, so that's helpful. I just wanna make sure because production, I mean, you get paid exactly when they start producing. There's no deferral, from my understanding, even if they're non-commercial at Amsoos.
Agnico Eagle
Yeah, so on the royalties, we accrue the revenue if ounces have been produced, we're entitled to it. So we will accrue even if we haven't been paid, but we will accrue. Okay, perfect.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
And then just on the environment, I think, Tappal, you mentioned that what you're seeing right now is mainly streams on non-gold assets for precious metals, so base metal producers. Can you just come back and verify that we're looking at that sort of like 100 to 300 million range? Is that still the range that you're thinking about for these streams?
Paul Brink
I'm gonna hand that over to Ian, Tanya.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Sorry, Ian, sorry, yeah.
Ian
Morning, Tanya. Good question. As Paul noted, it's an active pipeline that's been evolving over the course of the year so far. I'd say generally the size has scaled up a bit, Tanya. Beyond 300, you're seeing more potential for larger transactions as well. So we're quite encouraged by that.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
And when you say larger transaction, are we talking in over 500 million or still under five?
Ian
There are transactions at the 500 and above level that are possible. So that's perhaps a bit of a change versus the last time we spoke. There still are smaller transactions, and as Paul said, byproduct transactions are more common than they were. That said, with capital still constrained to the gold space, with gold producers, I think there's still these latitude to transact.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
I would assume, Ian, with the higher gold price, for gold producers that would wanna put some sort of royalty or stream on their gold assets with this higher gold price, their overall view on their valuation has gone up. Would that be a fair statement to say?
Ian
Yes, I think so. Byproducts, precious metals producers probably also have a similar elevated view. They take a balanced view on gold price, but certainly constructive on that as well.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Okay, and then Ian, maybe just on, I know in your investor day, I think with Paul that mentioned that you are looking at lithium potential transaction and other non-gold transactions. Can you just comment on where you are on that? Whether we're still, those are in the pipeline and whether we can see those in 2024, or is the focus still gold ahead of these non-gold?
Ian
Hi, Tanya, it's Jason speaking. I would say that the focus still is on gold. I think that's where we spend the majority of our time. That said, there are a lot of opportunities in many different commodities right now. Lithium is one that is interesting to us, just given where we are in the price cycle. There's obviously been a significant pullback in the lithium price, which has created a bit of a challenge for developers looking to finance new mines. And so there is, as a consequence, potentially a role there for us to play a part. And so it's something that we're spending time on and we may be active this year, just depends on the opportunities that are in front of us.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
And what size would those opportunities be in adjacent?
Ian
It's a range, I think. Probably the sweet spot for us would be 50 to maybe up to three, $400 million if we did something very sizable.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Okay, and my last question, if I could, just on uranium, we've seen volatility in that space as well. Anything in terms of looking at uranium for you guys?
Ian
We do look at uranium from time to time. There aren't as many assets available for us to participate in. There's a couple that we keep our eye on, but it's not something that we're spending a lot of time on, despite the change in commodity price. Okay,
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
appreciate that. I'll leave it for someone else to ask questions and really appreciate you answering my questions. Thank you.
Sandeepa
Your next question comes from John Tumaso, from John Tumaso's Very Independent Research. Please go ahead.
John Tumaso
Thank you very much. It's always hard to figure out how to value things. Presumably, Franco, as you approach new transactions, values them at the spot gold price, or today, 2300-ish. And then you put a capitalization rate based on the mine life and quality. And maybe that would have been eight or 10 times revenue for a simple royalty, or adjusting for how much in the money a stream is. But gold stocks are actually a little bit lower, even though gold is higher. And now there's the minimum tax rate, which clips your return a little bit. So is it fair to assume that given the valuation of gold stocks and the tax status, not only to Franco, but your peers as well, that you'd be capitalizing revenue at a lower rate going forward? Then you might have a couple years ago. Also, interest rates are higher. That's another factor, excuse
Barbados
me.
Paul Brink
John, it's Paul. A lot of things in there. One thing, any time we're looking at a property, it's less so commodity prices. It's more figuring out, what are we comfortable with there? Habit of price, pay a full sum price. For what we're comfortable with, get produced, and then want to participate in the upside. And it's really getting the calls right and being able to participate in the upside that generally has the greatest impact on our returns. So the vast majority of our work, though, is figuring out what are we comfortable with getting produced. Particularly when you're looking at development projects, sometimes our view is less than what you can see in reserves, sometimes it's far more. That's by far the biggest determinant. In terms of commodity prices, we're trying to price deals in the context of the market. You know, the trick is you don't want to get caught when prices run up sharply in paying peak prices. And on the other hand, when the market turns down, that's really where you want to get your deals done. You don't want to get caught up using bear market prices because you undervalue everything. So it's, in a sense, it's trying to take a longer term view of prices regardless of where the market has moved to in the time. On your last comment in terms of rates and how do we think about rates, we think of it as a bit of a competitive advantage and the competitive advantage is we don't have much debt. So with so many parties, their cost of capital is moving up and down with their cost of debt. We don't really have that. So we think it's an advantage. We can do deals in the market, we can extend capital to people at a more consistent rate than other players over time. And so particularly when other folks forced to use a higher cost of capital, we don't have to. And I think that's a bit of a competitive advantage.
Barbados
Thank
Sandeepa
you. Thank you. Your next question from some Tanya Jackuskodek from Scotiabank, please go ahead. Good
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
morning again. Sorry, I forgot to ask about Colbrick Panama. I know Cosmo's asked about it, the election happening on May 5th, but can you just review for us, when do the parties actually then get into office? Are we talking like July-ish or thereabouts? And once they get into office, are we expecting more clarity? So maybe just a bit of timeframe for us on getting some news out on Colbrick Panama.
Paul Brink
Tanya, you're exactly right. Elections coming up now, but the actual official change of government will only happen in July. So that's the first time that they're in a position of power. It doesn't mean that you can't have dialogue with them before that, but to your point, I don't expect any news, any direction on Colbrick until later in the summer.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Okay, well, that's very helpful because we may be all be waiting Saturday, Sunday night, and then Monday morning thinking something might be said, but probably realistically, it's probably not until the end of the summer.
Paul Brink
We hope for sooner, but you gotta be realistic.
Tanya Jackson - Skonak
Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you so much and good luck.
Paul Brink
Thank
Sandeepa
you. There are no further questions on the phone line. I will now do Q&A session over to Candida Hayden. We will take questions from the webcast.
Candida Hayden
Thank you, Julie. Our first question comes from Dipankar Nayak. Do you plan to do any share buybacks in 2024?
Agnico Eagle
Thanks for the question. We do have a large cash balance on our balance sheet, but our number one priority is to add assets to the portfolio. It comes down to what's the best use of a dollar and for us to continue to add assets. So no, we don't intend to do a share buyback.
Candida Hayden
Your second question also comes from Dipankar Nayak. Do you have any option of storing physical gold, assuming price would go up in the medium term?
Agnico Eagle
We do have the option. It comes down to streams versus royalties. Streams, we do get physical credits of precious metals to Frank of Nevada, but for accounting to book revenue, we have to sell that metal, so that's what we do on a quarterly basis. There are some royalties that we actually do receive in kind, and so on any given time, we have roughly 20 to 25,000 ounces of gold to our account held in various refineries around the world, but there's no plan to increase that level at this stage.
Candida Hayden
Next question comes from Diego Termitera from Nostra Capital Management. What are the next steps to consider in the Cobre-Paramel arbitration, and can the election have any impact on the process of arbitration?
spk07
Thanks for the question, Diego. It's Lloyd Hong. In terms of the next steps, as we previously disclosed, we have filed a notice of intent to initiate arbitration. The next step following that would be to actually file a request for arbitration, which would formally kick that off. In terms of the election process, as Paul had mentioned, I mean, we hope for the first one, we'll be able to engage in a constructive dialogue with the new government once it's elected, which could lead to the potential restart of the mine. Obviously, that would impact whether the arbitration proceeds or not.
Candida Hayden
Thank you. The next question comes from Bernie Pichy at Palisade Capital. BHB's interest in acquiring Agniq, sorry, Anglo, makes me wonder if Franco-Nevada has opportunities in the current mining industry M&A environment. Knowing this has not been your traditional area of opportunity.
Paul Brink
Thanks for the question. I would say, when I saw that potential acquisition, my first thought is that's a huge positive for the copper price. If BHP is acquiring assets, rather than building assets, it doesn't add to the world's copper supply. So I'm not surprised to see that the copper price is running up on the back of it. Could there be assets that come out of that that would create some deal activity for us, possibly? More actionable, though, is a transaction that's already happened, and that's Newmont acquiring Newcrest. They've announced that there are asset sales that they are doing, so I think there should be some opportunities that come out of that M&A process.
Candida Hayden
Thank you. There are no further questions from the webcast. This concludes our first quarter results conference call and webcast. We expect to release our second quarter 2024 results after market close on August 13th, with the conference call held the following morning. Thank you for your interest in Frankin, Nevada.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Thank you.
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