Shift4 Payments, Inc.

Q3 2021 Earnings Conference Call

11/10/2021

spk05: Hello and welcome to the Shift4 third quarter 2021 earnings call. My name is Emily and I'll be coordinating the call today. During the presentation, you'll have the opportunity to ask a question by pressing start followed by one on your telephone keypads. I'll now turn the call over to our host, Tom McCrory, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you, Operator. I'd like to welcome everyone to Shift4's earnings conference call for the three months ended September 30th, 2021. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this call will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Security of Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements made on this call that do not relate to matters of historical fact should be considered forward-looking statements, including statements regarding management's plans, strategies, goals, and objectives. The expected impact of COVID-19 on our business and industry, including with respect to economic recovery, increases in vaccination rates, the reopening of the country, and any volume recovery by us, gateway penetration and spend seen by our gateway merchants, expectations regarding new customers, acquisitions, and other transactions, and anticipated financial performance, including our financial outlook for the year ended December 31st, 2021, and any other comments regarding future operating performance. These statements are neither promises nor guarantees, but involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other important factors that may cause our actual results performance, or achievements to be materially different from any future results. Performance or achievements expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements, factors discussed in the risk factors section of their annual report on Form 10-K for the year end of December 31st, 2020, as updated by our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the 9 months end of September 30th, 2021, and our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated by the forward-looking statements made on this call. Any such forward-looking statements represent management's estimates as of the date of this call. While we may elect to update such forward-looking statements at some point in the future, we disclaim any obligation to do so, even if subsequent events cause our views to change. In addition, we may also reference certain non-GAAP measures on this call which are reconciled to the nearest GAAP measures in the company's earnings release, which can be found on our investor relations website at investors.shift4.com. Lastly, we are hosting our Investor Field Day event later today at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas. As a reminder, the presentation portion of the event will be webcast and begin at 12 noon Eastern time, 9 a.m. Pacific. The webcast link can be found under the events section of our investor relations website, investors.shiftforward.com. We encourage you to tune in at noon today to hear from our executive management team regarding how the company is positioned to deliver superior results in the months and years ahead. And with that, let me turn the call over to our founder and chief executive, Thank you, Tom.
spk12: Good morning, everyone. Big day today, lots to talk about. As you may have seen this morning, Shift4 reported solid results, including N10 volume of $13.5 billion, up 90% versus the third quarter a year ago, and nearly 130% higher than the same period in 2019. Our quarterly volume results represent record levels of volume production for the company. We also reported impressive revenue and adjusted EBITDA levels for the quarter, with gross revenue less network fees up nearly 70% versus last year and adjusted EBITDA margins of 38%. Our adjusted EBITDA margins represent a nearly 500 basis point increase from last year's third quarter and about 450 basis points sequentially, evidence of our scale and operating leverage. This expansion was also in the face of increased investment to pursue several new verticals that I'm really excited to talk about in a few minutes and share more details on later today during our investor field day. While I believe our performance rivals that of our strongest peers, there's no question our volumes in parts of August and throughout September moderated more than we would have expected, which we can only surmise was attributable to the COVID Delta variant. There were several well-publicized comments by our airline and hotel executives that would also suggest fall travel fell below expectations from earlier in the summer. I'd like to focus my comments this morning on three areas, our core integrated payment performance, the amazing progress since our IPO, and finally the transformation that is about to take place. This will essentially be a summary overview of what we intend to expand upon during our investor field day later today. So first, our core integrated payments business, which enables us to differentiate and compete in the complex restaurant, hospitality, and specialty retail verticals, is performing incredibly well. As a reminder, we go to market with our aligned software partners and win in near equal parts across a large addressable market and by converting customers from our gateway platform to our end-to-end platform. Over 99% of the transactions processed at SHIFT4 are, in fact, integrated. And successes in these verticals is defined by, first, software integrations. At the time of the IPO, we possessed approximately 350 unique software integrations. Over the last 18 months, that number has grown to over 425, with most of the recent additions representing modern cloud-based solutions. Many of our merchants require multiple software integrations across multiple years of version history, which makes replication of our integration library nearly impossible. Our gateway volume specifically is so defensible that it has actually grown to nearly $170 billion in volume since the prior quarter. Our integration is connected to our gateway and representing such volume, it's connected to virtually every legacy merchant acquirer. That volume represents a significant economic opportunity with a four to five lift in gross profit from moving to our end-to-end platform. B, volume growth and resilient spreads. At Ship4, we've been growing so fast, investors sometimes lose sight of how hard it is to actually differentiate through technology, grow volume, and capture meaningful spread. This is probably why many of our competitors don't even report volume growth. At Shift4, we are growing volume so quickly and enlarge more complex merchants that investors confuse mixed shifts up market at higher revenues per merchant at spread compression. In reality, and as you will see during our investor field day presentation, our spreads have either remained consistent or grown in our core verticals despite the perceived threat of competition. And then add value through technology. Merchants are simply not signing up for non-integrated solutions. Legacy merchant acquirers with large books of non-integrated merchants are losing share, and they are gravitating towards technology-enabled platforms like Shift4 and others. We have developed technology that solves pain points like pay a table, order a table, QR code-based payments, QR code ordering, online ordering, loyalty, business intelligence, and even a brand-new full-blown POS platform that we'll talk about in a bit. We shared with you previously that our new carbohydrate-killing platform, codenamed Edgewater, and now I'm pleased to announce the platform has a name, and it's called SkyTab POS. And it's not PowerPoint. It's already in 2,000-plus merchants, including the United Center. This modern hybrid cloud software is feature-rich and driven by a customer experience-driven philosophy. SkyTab POS will drive incremental SaaS revenues, as roughly 85% of the 125,000 restaurants we presently serve today pay little to nothing in SaaS fees. It will also unlock other revenue opportunities as we roll out payroll, capital, and look to monetize our marketplace platform. Further, we expect our thousands of distribution partners to find success in what is an exciting addressable market, while also improving margins as customers migrate to a single, modern, and highly supportable platform. We're excited to share a lot more details on our SkyFab POS product during our investor field day. Our confidence in the competitive mode around our core integrated payment business is what has given us the confidence since the IPO to move into several new and fast-growing verticals. And on that note, we've deployed, since the IPO, some $200 million of capital between organic and inorganic initiatives to strengthen our core, but primarily to expand our TAM while bringing our integrated payment expertise into three new verticals, which are gaming, sports and entertainment, and e-commerce. Along the way, we have generated $45 million in additional revenue, while barely scratching the payments opportunity that is embedded within these products and their associated markets. This is primarily why we are raising our 2021 gross revenue less network fee guidance. On that note, we've made considerable progress across all three of these new verticals. This includes successes within the stadium vertical with the addition of Toyota Stadium in Frisco, Texas, and T-Mobile Arena here in Las Vegas. We currently have over 80 venues and sports teams adopting our Shift4 software and payment services and cannot be more pleased with our decision to enter this vertical through our acquisition earlier this year of Venue Next. We also signed several soccer teams during the quarter, including DC United and the Los Angeles Football Club. We're winning large books of business from our competitors, including industry verticals that were previously considered too difficult to switch over. Additionally, through the 3D card acquisition in 2020, now called Shift4Shop, we've increased site count to over 72,000 sites, launched a crypto acceptance service with BitPay, and advanced several strategic partnerships while booking notable wins like adventure gear company, Kamali. We're also still investing in the product by improving user experience, adding templates, and interfacing with our restaurant products to eventually have, in part, a Shopify for restaurants capability. Last, as a perpetual underdog in the gaming industry, we now have eight gaming licenses and several integrations with gaming software companies, gaming merchants, and alternative payment methods, all of which are necessary to compete and win this exciting new vertical. We've already announced preferred payment relationships with BetMGM and expect to have multiple relationships processing payments with us before the end of the year. We've built out our gaming specialty through entirely organic means, by leveraging our expertise in in-venue gaming, as a reminder, half the Las Vegas Strip has a relationship with Shift4, coupled with our immense right to win in stadiums. We made these investments while still expanding margins nearly 500 basis points for the overall business. I mentioned that I wanted to take this update in three parts. The core integrated payment business, the progress since the IPO, and the transformation that is about to take place. Well, we're on to the transformation portion of the update. And I'm beyond excited to announce we are entering four new verticals and expanding the overall organization's TAMs on the shoulders of these signature wins. This includes Allegiant Airlines, a multibillion-dollar airline and hospitality provider that will expand and strengthen our capabilities across the broader travel and leisure market. St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, an organization with a vital mission that accepts nearly $2 billion a year in donations and opens the door to both nonprofit and healthcare industries. And finally, a company that I've often said is the most well-run and innovative organization I've ever seen, and I have an obvious bias, but SpaceX and their Starlink broadband service. This five-year strategic partnership will take our integrated payment service across the world, With a specific Starlink payment opportunity, some analysts say it could reach over $100 billion a year. The agreement includes a commitment to convert domestic volume to shipboard beginning in the first quarter of 2022. And it's also worth noting that SpaceX has a restaurant and a few bars and other hospitality venues in the works in Starbase, Texas, and you can count on those locations using our new SkyTab-powered hospitality platform. These wins have displaced payment companies we immensely respect, like Adyen and Stripe. They'll result in numerous new software integrations to our platform, which allow us to pursue other merchants in those new and exciting verticals, and come with a stamp of approval that Shift4 can play in a lot of new verticals around the world, including what I would refer to as sexy tech. As mentioned in my shareholder letter, this quarter was quite interesting. We began with record volume in July. We definitely felt the impact of the COVID Delta variant. We had a confusing secondary offering from our former sponsor, the thesis service outage, a rocket launch, supply chain fears, and then several disappointing weeks in share price performance. Hopefully, I've eased some of these perceived concerns as clearly we've been quite busy and the results and outlook are quite bright. But there's certainly a lot more to discuss, including our multi-year outlook, and that's why we are hosting our investor field day this afternoon. We look forward to sharing our vision in a forum that allows more time and interaction with each of you. Before I turn the call over to Taylor and Brad, let me touch on a service disruption that occurred during this quarter. On Saturday, August 21st, most of our merchants experienced a service disruption due to a platform outage at one of the industry back-owned pieces. While this outage was caused by our vendor, we took swift, decisive action, including reimbursing those impacted merchants for lost revenue. The financial impact from the TSIS outage on our results for the quarter was approximately $25 million, of which approximately $22 million was recorded as contra revenue. Brad will review the financial impact from the TSIS outage in more detail later during this call, but we strongly believe this was the right action to take for our merchants since the feedback we have received from them has been overwhelmingly positive. and we still are very confident on our recovery through the appropriate parties. And lastly, I simply want to thank you all for those that were inspired to donate to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. As you know, we set lofty goals, and this was one of our loftiest yet. Thanks to you, the Inspiration4 event raised over $250 million for a very worthwhile cause, and I can assure you The St. Jude children, their parents, and their extended families are very grateful for your generosity. And with that, let me turn the call over to our Chief Strategy Officer, Taylor Wauber, who will highlight volume trends and thoughts on trends heading into the year end. Taylor?
spk03: Thanks, Jared, and good morning, everyone. The net new merchant wins we've signed and boarded over the past year have set us up well for sustained volume growth throughout the balance of the year and into 2022. As you all know, many of the merchants we've signed are larger, whether that be hotels or more recently large stadium and event venues. Each of these contributes to our increasingly diversified volume mix and delivers higher average volumes and revenues per merchant. Forecasting volume remains difficult in the context of an uneven pandemic recovery, an evolving mix shift, and the impact all of this has on our seasonality cadence. With that being said, the monthly cadence was a record July and a reasonably strong August, followed by a moderation in September. As we called out in our late October business update, we saw volume growth of over 80% through much of the month. With the month now being concluded, we're happy to report that our full month end-to-end payment volumes ended up 86% year-over-year. This strong volume growth is on top of what had also been a very strong October of 2020, which was up 28% year-over-year despite the pandemic. All else being equal, we anticipate the fourth quarter year-over-year volumes growth to benefit from easier comparisons and a continued increase in travel as we finish out the year. We also called out our active merchant growth of 25% for the same October period versus a year ago. We anticipate our fourth quarter active merchant growth to also benefit from more favorable comparisons, as merchant growth in November and December last year was weaker due to increased COVID-related restrictions. Sequentially, we exited Q3 with roughly 5% more active merchants than in Q2. As Jared noted, we continue to sign new stadiums within the sports and entertainment market and remain excited to see a return to capacity crowds. Outside of stadiums, we entered the nonprofit charitable giving market with the signing of St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital. We view the nonprofit charitable giving market as both growing and large with an estimated $795 billion of addressable volume in the U.S. alone. We believe we have a unique value proposition to offer charitable fundraising organizations, including the ability to integrate a wide variety of point-of-giving systems, both legacy and modern. Our addressable opportunity has increased substantially over the past year as we entered gaming and e-commerce, expanding our hospitality client base substantially through a combination of gateway conversions and net new wins. And now with SpaceX Starlink, we are ready to take all these verticals global. The gateway opportunity remains extremely healthy, with gateway volumes increasing to $170 billion, and we remain in the pole position to continue gaining market share in large, complex hospitality environments as a result of our 425 software integrations. As a reminder, roughly 50% of our ongoing production continues to be generated from gateway to end-to-end conversions. Over the past year, we estimate that through both organic and inorganic initiatives, we've increased our addressable market by a factor of 3x from our IPO roughly 18 months ago. More importantly, we have marquee wins within each vertical, which validate our strategic positioning, guide our capital allocation, and diversify our revenue streams. Over the quarter, some of you reached out to us inquiring about a hardware vendor named PAX over security-related concerns. While we use PACS devices, they represent less than 10% of our deployed terminals. Given our large and multivertical presence, it's always been important to support a robust family of device manufacturers. Those myriad device certifications pay dividends because supply chains can sometimes be constrained. It's also worth noting that we encrypt all our terminals with our proprietary encryption keys, regardless of the device manufacturer. The security protocols we use are best in class and have insulated us from challenges other processors appear to have encountered. We remain active in the market evaluating M&A opportunities and remain disciplined on price, but have more strategic rationale than ever before to continue building and fortify around our recent customer wins. With that, let me turn the call over to Brad Herring to review our financials.
spk04: Thanks, Taylor. Before I dive into the financials, I want to make a few quick comments. First, when we talk about our Q3 results and comparisons to other periods, we're excluding the impact of the thesis outage on the current quarter. I'm going to cover the details of that more in just a minute. Second, it remains relevant to highlight our performance to 2019 pre-pandemic levels, to highlight our growth trajectory without the noise created in 2020 by COVID-19. Similar to last quarter, we are proud to report record performance across our KPIs. Gross revenue in the quarter was $400 million, up 86% from the prior year, while gross revenue less network fees was $148 million, up 69% from the prior year and up 86% when compared to Q3 of 2019. This continued growth was fueled by a 73% year-over-year increase in net processing revenue. This shift forward continues to board new end-to-end merchants, and consumer spending continues to recover. In the current quarter, net processing made up 67% of our gross revenue less network fees, up two percentage points from the same quarter last year. In addition, we've seen continued growth in our SaaS revenues as we continue to expand our TAMs. via acquisitions and organic investments into new verticals, such as gaming, e-commerce, and sports and entertainment. We're also expanding penetration of our peripheral products and services, such as POS software, online order, pay-at-the-table, order-at-table, and our lighthouse business intelligence into our existing base of over 125,000 restaurant merchants. Specifically, our subscription and other revenue stream has grown 72% when comparing to the third quarter of last year. Spread for the quarter came in at 74 basis points, which is four basis points lower than the spread we reported in Q2. The decline from previous quarter was slightly more than anticipated as we saw significant increase in hotel volumes that blended down aggregate spreads in the quarter. That shift in mix stabilized toward the end of Q3 as the summer travel season came to an end. It's worth highlighting that spreads within our restaurant and hotel verticals have actually increased over Q3 of 2020. by approximately 8%, further supporting the pricing power of our differentiated end-to-end solution. For the quarter, we reported an adjusted EBITDA of $55.8 million, which represents an increase of 94% over prior year and a 128% increase over Q3 2019 pre-pandemic levels. Our third quarter results produced an EBITDA margin of 38%, which represents nearly 500 basis points of margin expansion over Q3 2020, as we continue to benefit from the scalability of our cost structure. Keep in mind, our margins would have expanded even faster had we not elected to make several organic and inorganic investments to expand into new and fast-growing verticals. While these investments have already resulted in meaningful contributions to our SaaS revenue streams, We are still in the early days of monetizing the natural payments opportunity. This is important to understand as we look to balance expanding margins in our existing integrated payments footprint while continuing to grow revenues within new verticals. With respect to capital transactions within the quarter, we completed a successful convertible bond offering that raised approximately $618 million in July. With that offering, we exited Q3 with approximately $1.3 billion in cash and still retain approximately $100 million of borrowing capacity against a revolving credit facility. As I mentioned in my opening remarks, I want to take a quick minute to describe how the impact of the CSIS outage is reflected in our financial statements. While our 10Q will include more detailed information, I want to summarize the impact on this call. First, the $22.4 million of payments made to merchants is reflected as a one-time reduction of payments-based revenue in accordance with applicable accounting guidance under ASC 606. Second, the $2.3 million of payments made to partners is reflected as a one-time increase within other costs of sales. Lastly, there were some additional one-time costs totaling approximately $400,000 that are embedded within various income statement lines resulting in a total impact for the quarter of $25.1 million. This total amount is reflected as an add-back in our reconciliation to adjusted EBITDA. I also would like to point you to the appendix of our deck where we present adjusted gross revenue, gross profit, net income, and net income per share, each adjusted for the impact of the outage. Now I want to spend a few minutes on some small updates and commentary on our guidance. First, we are reaffirming our latest full-year guidance on end-to-end volumes. Second, we are increasing our full-year guidance for gross revenue less network fees, now to reflect the full-year target of $520 to $525 million. This primarily represents outperformance of our non-volume SaaS-based revenue streams, mostly from our investments in new verticals. With respect to adjusted EBITDA, we are also reaffirming our latest guidance of $175 to $180 million. The reason we have not chosen to raise adjusted EBITDA guidance despite our increases to revenue are related to the previous discussion regarding the minimal impact on adjusted EBITDA in the early quarters of our acquisitions and investments we are making to expand into new verticals. Excluding the impact of a merchant failure that we discussed in the first quarter of this year, our adjusted EBITDA would actually fall between $180 and $185 million. Finally, while we do not want to steal any thunder away from our investor field day event later this afternoon, we would like to set some expectations over the medium term. That said, over the next three years, we expect the CAGR on end-to-end volume to be at least 50%, and the CAGR on gross revenue less network fees to be at least 30%. We would ask that you hold questions related to our medium-term outlook until our investor field day, where we'll have the opportunity to discuss some of the exciting developments within our business that support our medium-term outlook. With that, I will turn the call back over to the operator for your questions.
spk05: Thanks very much, Brad. If you would like to ask a question, please do so now by pressing Start followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press Start followed by 2 to withdraw your question. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure that your device is unmuted locally. Our first question comes from Darren Peller from Wolf Research. Darren, your line is open.
spk07: Thanks, guys, and thanks for all this updated information on the outlook and the new verticals. It's great to see. You know, just touching on that for a minute, the progress that you're now making in these incremental verticals looking at charity and some of the airlines, can you just touch on the leverage that you're basing your technology differentiation in your current verticals to allow you into those categories, whether it's St. Jude's or it's some of the other charities you mentioned in the slides, or it seems like the complexity you service with all the different ISPs is allowing for that. And how big could these opportunities really be relative to some of the verticals you're in today, again, when looking at some of the wins you're having?
spk12: Yeah, Darren, good question. Jared here. Thank you. Yeah, this is what our payment platform does. We're an integrated payments company, which means we connect into commerce-enabling software to encrypt and tokenize and drive secure payment transactions. The fact that we've been in predominantly restaurants, hotels, and specialty retails is really more a factor of the merchant environment requiring multiple different types of software. That complexity is what is necessitated shift forward. There was never a platform limitation that could take us into these other verticals. In fact, these other verticals share a lot of similarities to restaurants, hotels, and specialty retails. They have multiple different software types in these verticals in order to deliver a commerce experience. nonprofits has been eye-opening for us. I think we've mentioned this over the last probably two or three quarters. They use multiple different types of software applications for their various fundraising efforts. So these industries share a lot of the characteristics that have made us successful today. But when it all comes down to it, we drive transactions in commerce-enabling software, and we do it really well. So I'd say that's one. And I think it's also important to know when we do capture those software integrations, whether it's in healthcare, nonprofit, airline, it's very safe to say that the Starlink payment platform is quite actually, or software is actually quite proprietary. It does open us up to all the other merchants that occupy the space in those verticals. And with Starlink specifically, which is a global initiative, it takes our restaurant business, our hotel business, our stadium business, our gaming business, our e-com business, into all the same geographies that we're following for Starlink. And then in terms of the opportunity they represent, you know, we put that in our presentation. Allegiant Airline does, you know, I mean, you can see they're a public company. They do $2 billion-plus in payment volume right now. St. Jude's Research Hospitals, a nonprofit, they do nearly $2 billion in donations. And then in terms of Starlink, they are already just in beta doing over a billion of payment volume. And you can see a number of different analysts out there that believe that just Starlink alone
spk07: uh could be 100 billion a year uh payment opportunity going forward so you can you can probably guess why we're so excited about these uh these signature wins all right that's that's really helpful just one quick follow-up on the uh revenue yields just because i know you touched uh i think brad you touched on it being around sas revenue upside which is great to see um especially just given you know some of the questions on and off through the year about yields here Clearly, as you grow, you're able to sustain, obviously, strong yields, given the CAGRs that, I guess, we'll wait for the investor day discussion to go into. But when we look at, you know, geography of yields for fourth quarter on a seasonal basis for a minute, can you just remind us of that? And then just, you know, when you talk about some of these new verticals and new larger categories, I assume they're going to come with lower yields, but obviously just bigger, more broad opportunities. Just make sure we're thinking about that right. And great job overall. Thanks again, guys.
spk04: Hey, Derek, you're exactly right. So for Q4, if you think of kind of normal seasonality, we'd expect a slight dip in Q4 just related to the normal seasonal pattern. You know, I'm going to highlight, like we talked about before, we do expect that continued kind of one to two basis point decline just with merchant mix. We're going to talk about some more of that later today in our investment discussions. And we're also going to talk a little bit more about the second point we made, which is very valid, which is as you go up market, you know, you will see the economics play out that the spreads on larger merchants is slightly less than what we're seeing now on our average merchant size, and we're going to talk about that. But what's really important to understand is the quantum of revenue that we can generate off of these merchants. So if you look at a revenue per merchant basis, you're going to see some pretty staunch acceleration in that number as well. We're going to cover both of those in more detail today, so I look forward to diving into that.
spk12: Yeah, and one thing I would just layer on, too, obviously we provide a lot of detail, and we'll talk a little bit later today on how different verticals have an impact on spread, but overall your average revenue per merchant goes up. But these new verticals that we've announced have a lot of opportunities into them. First, they are priced with margin. But second, when you get into nonprofits, charitable giving, there's opportunities to push costs back on the consumers making the donations, which usually come at pretty healthy spreads. When you get into international markets, it opens up cross-border payment opportunities, which also, as you guys are aware, usually come in a pretty higher spread. So I think there's going to be a lot more to talk about for sure as we move into these new verticals that I think will be pretty interesting.
spk07: That's exciting stuff. Thanks, guys.
spk01: next question comes from jason koopferberg from bank of america jason your line is open hey guys this is cassie on for jason first i just wanted to ask a little bit more about the thesis outage appreciate all the disclosure and the transparency around that um i just wanted to confirm are those you know impacts fully behind you you know in 3q or are you kind of expecting any lingering effects in 4q And can you just explain a little bit more about what brought upon the situation? Was it like an unexpected volume surge? And was there any kind of loss of data or security issues related to it? Thanks.
spk12: Yeah, sure. No problem. Jared here. I'm happy to take that, Kathy. So first, you'd really have to ask Global Payments as to the ultimate root cause on that. They really punished a lot of the industry with that situation. But it very much is one time in nature. It happened back in August. We put out a disclosure to it. There was never any issues at all with security or cardholder data. That's all our technology, which works very well. PCI validated point-to-point encryption on every one of those transactions. Yeah, I mean, ultimately, TCIS is one of the called four or five backbones in the industry, and they haven't put out a lot of specifics as to what the cause was. But on a Saturday night, you can imagine the impact to restaurants and hotels. We did the right thing and just issued these credits per the discussion today. specifically with the goal of putting all this behind us. I mean, we're growing really fast. We're obviously entering a lot of new verticals. We don't want to spend time arguing with our customers. We don't want to wind up in litigation. We've had no customer complaints, no litigation coming out of this issue. In fact, what we've had is a lot of signature wins. More stadiums have come online, more restaurants and hotels. You know, if we were taking similar action or action similar to other payment processors, of which literally hundreds of banks, financial institutions were caught up in this, we'd never be able to grow at the pace we're doing it. So, no, we don't expect any lingering issues going forward. In fact, this kind of became case closed back in August. That said, we have been talking with you, with our investors since the IPO, about our own final piece to the payment rails that we brought in-house, which we call Project Everest. that will remove any dependency on the thesis backbone starting in early 2022 to make sure that we have complete control of this and never be in a situation of recurrence.
spk01: Oh, okay. That's great to hear. Very helpful. And I guess if I could just ask, switching gears a little bit, if you look at the rate at which volume has been converted to end to end of the past couple quarters. I think even this quarter you kind of said 50% if I believe I had that number correct. You know, is there any reason to believe that that pace would accelerate or decelerate materially as we head into 2022?
spk03: Great question. This is Taylor. I'll cover it. There's absolutely no reason it would decelerate. In fact, that's a trend we've seen very consistently over the past several years, even throughout the pandemic. And the right way to think about it is we've got this $170-odd billion in volume, 425 software integrations that are naturally inclined to continue to consolidate business with us via that gateway conversion mechanism. But when you think about those 425 software integrations, their installed base goes far beyond that $170 billion that's on the gateway. So if you put yourself in our shoes and you look at production on our end-to-end platform in any given month and you say about half is coming from these easy gateway conversions and about half is coming from a larger installed base of these integrations, that makes sense to us. And it's proven throughout really choppy periods to work pretty consistently with that. There's always nuances. There's always a hotel chain that decides to do, you know, all in one quarter where you might get, you know, some outsized net new wins versus gateway conversion. But generally speaking, you have a lot of shots on goal against that $170 billion, but a much larger installed base outside of that, and it blends around to 50-50. In terms of acceleration, we spend basically, you know, every week thinking through ways that we could accelerate it. And there's a bunch of things we can do. Like Jared always likes to say, and it's a true statement, you know, we don't have to be a gateway. Being a gateway and sending volume to our competitors is like an accommodation that we're making because of the way the industry evolved over the past decade. We don't have to do that. I think the stance we've taken, which is provide incentives to migrate, provide the education on why it's a better solution for merchants. and win about half those merchants via gateway conversion and then get net new wins is a good compromise for that. But, yeah, at any given time, we're evaluating, do we want to maintain a legacy connection? Do we want to create a more unique partnership with one of those software integrations to help compel them to migrate faster? And I would say at the top level, while it looks like a very consistent mix of 50-50, These incentives drive, you know, one ISV versus another to either convert a lot more gateway merchants or bring us a bunch of net new wins in any particular quarter. So we're doing things all the time. I think the blended effect of that has consistently been 50-50. And we're hesitant to press some of the more aggressive layers that would undoubtedly accelerate that migration because of all the net new win success we're having. It's built a lot of goodwill the way we've approached kind of this gateway migration process for customers.
spk01: Awesome. Thanks, guys. We're looking forward to the investor day later today.
spk03: Awesome. Thank you.
spk05: Our next question comes from Dan Perrin from RBC. Dan, please proceed.
spk02: Great. And thanks for all the details. It's fantastic. I am not trying to steal thunder from this afternoon, but I did have a quick question on the SkyTab POS. Just conceptually, was this Did you guys feel like this was something you needed to do in order to control payment monetization longer term? Obviously, there's a cross-selling opportunity in SaaS revenues that were, I guess you're just kind of leaving on the table there, so that's a huge opportunity. But as the industry continues to kind of pivot to more of control of the POS, was this kind of a competitive necessity that you needed to do, or do you feel like this is unique and different to your product set?
spk12: Hey, thanks, Dan. So, I mean, we didn't – We didn't feel any pressure in the market to make our investment and build out SkyTap POS. You can probably see from some of the slides in the investor deck, we've been continuing to win in the restaurant vertical despite the competitive environment for years and years now. This was just the right thing to do. Four years ago, we acquired software POS companies from a different generation. It had a ton of embedded integrated payment volume living inside it, a lot of sophisticated distribution. We were able to unlock considerable value through those acquisitions, but it was never the long-term plan to support four different restaurant POS platforms. The idea was always to consolidate around a modern platform. cloud-based architecture that, you know, one, it just provides a lot of efficiency gains from a support perspective. You know, hybrid cloud Android-based operating systems, very, very low maintenance, easy to support, easy to push out updates. But, yeah, it also opens up a lot of other opportunities that we weren't as focused on with our prior strategy, which was monetizing through SaaS. I mean, the reality is, as you can see in this quarter, is you can capture SaaS revenue and meaningful payment volume. As we discussed in our comments, 85% of the 125,000 restaurants that we touched today don't have a SaaS contribution. We have a marketplace with integrations to DoorDash and Uber Eats and Postmates. There's probably 50 existing marketplace integrations, hundreds more. We don't charge any fee for use of that marketplace, despite virtually every one of our competitors doing so. It would have been a lot harder to roll out a capital and payroll offering when you have to make it work with four different POS platforms versus one. So we embarked on this journey years and years ago. As mentioned, we called it Project Edgewater. Now it's named SkyTab POS. not PowerPoint. There's 2,000 of them deployed out there, including most recently at United Center. And we've got a lot of hungry distribution partners that are eager to go out in the marketplace and make an impact. So that rationale has existed for years and was not the result of any new developments. And frankly, you can't make this much progress on a completely new restaurant platform if you just decide to do it yesterday. I mean, this was in the works for years.
spk02: Yeah, that's super exciting. Thanks for that. And then just quickly on the quarter, Taylor, you mentioned some of the stuff around the October volumes and kind of the cadence. I just want to make sure we're clear because that created some consternation during the period. So October was up 86%. I think generally speaking at the midpoint of the guidance range, you know, it's just maybe 110%. And I know there's some some seasonality that typically takes place, I think, in and around November, but the numbers are suggesting an acceleration. So can you just, again, kind of walk through the cadence of that so that we understand your conviction level there? Thank you.
spk03: Yeah, absolutely. What I'll do first is I'll convey the cadence of last year because I think that's very important. So last year we had a downright strong October, up 28% year over year despite a pandemic. And then, as we all recall, you know, starting in kind of the middle of November and throughout December, we had a significant increase in COVID-related restrictions across the country. I think New York City is a good example. And California just simply shut off indoor dining right when the weather was getting cold. And you had a handful of examples across other states. What that resulted in was a decelerization in growth in November and then a further decelerization in December, so much so that December actually contracted modestly year over year. So you went from an up 28% October to a contraction in December. That is not a normal seasonal cadence by any stretch of the imagination. That is, you know, a significantly impacted year. quarter as a result of the COVID restrictions. Now, contrast that to this year, what we have is, again, a very strong October of 86% year-over-year on a tough comp. We're very proud of that. But we expect that given the decelerization in November and December of last year, that it continues to improve. And I think the X factor is is what exactly does this lifting of travel restrictions do? What exactly does the significantly larger number of hotels in our base versus last year due to November and December as travel increases across the country? I think we're of the opinion in the room that it will undoubtedly increase. It's just exactly the magnitude of that, and that's sort of where we're at today, which is October looks great, and we're going to stick with our guide given the relative uncertainty of those factors. That's super helpful. Thank you.
spk05: Our next question comes from Ashwin Shurikeya from Citi. Ashwin, your line is open.
spk06: Thank you. Hey, guys. Good morning. I wanted to start by asking for some more details on the new vertical, say, for example, gaming. You just signed your first gaming fund, but you do already have a pretty meaningful presence in Vegas. So what's sort of the process for actually going after that? What's the competitive environment like? Would you need to make more acquisitions or partnerships such as Sightline and Avery would do? So let me start there.
spk12: Yeah, Ashwin, Jared here, I can take that. So it is true. I mean, first, just really no one, there were no payment companies that were equipped out of the box to pursue the domestic gaming opportunity. It kind of, it was shut down years and years ago. It reappeared, became sexy, and then Shift4 and obviously two other payment companies really began sprinting towards it. What do you have to do in order to accommodate this vertical? You need integration. And the integrations that we possess in the card-present gaming environment are very different than the ones you need in card-not-present. But what it does help us do is... separate us as one of the logical players that these gaming organizations should partner with because if you have insight into a patron's gaming and other hospitality business in a card present environment and then you're able to link that in a card-not-present environment for mobile gaming, that can provide some valuable insight into some of the partners that we're working with. That is one of our rights to win on top of we believe that our presence in stadiums is actually pretty relevant as well. But again, all three of these organizations that are spreading towards it have to accumulate integrations, and they have to accumulate gaming licenses. So we, as I mentioned in our remarks, have eight gaming licenses, and we've completed integrations to providers we didn't have previously, like You see we've released every. I think there's NRT out there. There's Siteline. BetMGM requires a number of different software integrations. So that's what we've been doing for calls the last six months, accumulating all these integrations, these alternative payment methods, so that when the switch gets turned on, we're able to satisfy all the requirements for our customers. And that's well under the way. And I think, as mentioned in my comments, we expect the first mobile gaming transactions to flow across our rails this year in the quarter ahead.
spk06: Got it. Got it. Okay. And then on your medium-term outlook, where it says by the end of 2024, so is that sort of an annualized, you know, 4Q24? I mean, can you sort of, you know... granularize what the actual expectations are and hopefully maybe even the cadence of it, facts like is it organic, is it in clear acquisitions already, things like that.
spk03: You know, I think that one's appropriate to table for the day because we've spent a lot of time sort of structuring out what the core business should be expected to contribute over time, exactly where we've invested this capital that Jared talked about, the roughly $200 million in organic and inorganic, and then exactly where these new wins will take us. So if you don't mind, I'd prefer we just table that towards a few hours from now.
spk12: Yeah, that said, I do want to clarify, we're not getting cued on any sort of like 2024 exit rate. No. I'm trying to sneak another year in on you, Ashwin, there. What we're saying is between the core business, which is highly stable and growing very quickly, as you can see in the presentation materials, on top of the three new verticals that we started in six months ago, which is gaming, sports and entertainment, and e-commerce, and these four signature new wins that are taking us across the world, what we're dealing with now is immense demand, lots of demand. And you look at our existing core business's growth rate, that remains stable within verticals that are very, very hard to encroach upon our space on. Then there's not a whole lot of what you have to believe in those seven new verticals that we shared with you. But as Taylor mentioned, we'll go into more specifics at the investor field day.
spk06: Okay. Thank you.
spk05: Our next question comes from Tom Chiodo of Credit Suisse. Tom, please go ahead.
spk11: Great. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My question is related to Skytab POS in a way, but also specific to the 7,000 expert distribution partners I talked about earlier and prior and also in the slides today on slide 25. When we think about those 7,000 expert distribution partners, You mentioned that they're hungry to be able to sell the software. Can you just give us some context on what are some of the other platforms that they're currently selling? How does Shift4 begin to take more of their mind share? What is their status quo in terms of the platforms that they're most focused on at the moment that their attention will shift over to the new Skytab POS?
spk12: Yeah, I mean, Tom, it's a good question. The answer is they're all, I mean, they're all representing some shift or, you know, integrated product or another, you know, whether that's Oracle or Focus Pods or Future Pods or Restaurant Manager. I mean, keep in mind we have 425 software integrations. So we're not implying we're going to win these over from other software solutions. We're saying they're already supporting existing shift or products. They're very aware of how and integrated payments fuel value profits and can help them differentiate when in the market, they're just ready for the next wave of technology, this next sexy product. So, you know, we've obviously been communicating with them for some time. If you have 2,000 of these devices that are already – 2,000 SkyTap POSs already deployed means that we've already been working with a select group of our, you know, kind of our best integrated partners that are out there. And we have pretty big expectations of what they can deliver because if they're finding as much success as they are with their current products, which are very good, and that's demonstrated in the volume growth, they should be able to only improve upon both within our existing base of customers with a great cross-sell and what is a really sexy addressable market. Taylor, I don't know if you have more to add later on.
spk03: No, I think that's well said. You know, important to note, highly diversified group, I think, within the restaurant vertical specifically support a myriad of different software applications. And what we're going to talk about, you know, later today is that's a really differentiated edge. If you look at, you know, the restaurant industry specifically over the years, you've had lots of of different POS providers gain success in particular swim lanes because of how they've built the product. And yet we have, you know, a dozen or more of these products under one roof and a lot of internal expertise. So, you know, the SkyTab products really designed to help them widen the net. and address more of their own markets, and then also upgrade what are undoubtedly some legacy systems within certain stacks. We don't want to pick on any one software provider, but we all know that there are big providers with a loyal brand following and a huge legacy base, but have been slow to migrate to the cloud. This allows those distribution partners to take advantage of that, Tim.
spk11: thank you i appreciate that i'm sorry what i was trying to get at is my understanding is that the distribution partners have choice in which who they partner with what they sell it's not necessarily exclusive and that they have options in terms of which pos systems they could sell into the restaurants and and maybe the the new sky tab pos helps you gain some mind share with them in terms of where they allocate their time
spk03: Yeah, well, actually, to be clear, these are partners that are using Ship4 for the vast majority of their business. If they're not using Ship4 for a segment, it's because they service a vertical that we don't happen to be in. You might find grocery stores, for example, being serviced by the same group that does restaurants in a local geography. They're using Schifor for the majority of their business, but they may be either installing a Windows-based software more often than not, or they might be supporting more restaurants that they've installed over the past decade than they are setting up new locations. This gives them all a reason to go introduce a new product with a familiar face. and a bunch of new features at a really attractive price point. So it's much more about augmenting their go-to-market and giving them another tool in their toolkit. As I think you know well, Tim, we don't try to be heavy-handed about the product from a software perspective that our distribution partners go to market with. All we care about is that they deliver the payments to us. What we've heard from that group is that a product like SkyTab would have a lot of success doing both helping them win that new location and helping them address some of the concerns that their merchants have across their base. I don't want to get too overarching with the comments because, again, 7,000 partners, they all have different needs. Some service hotels entirely, for example, and SkyTab is just something that they can offer to the extent there's a restaurant in the hotel. So there's a bunch of different diversity inside that base. We're going to spend a lot more time on that later today. I think the point is that these are partners that have been loyal to Shift for a long time that have deep integrations with us, and we go to market in a pretty lockstep way with each other, and now we're giving them another tool they can rely on.
spk12: Yeah, and Jared here, just to layer on, I mean, you know, the idea is should we expect our partners to be even more kind of energized, prioritize more of their time around this new product? Of course. I mean, everybody likes the next new version of an iPhone. And right now, you know, SkyTab POS has got a sexy interface. It's got a lot of capabilities embedded in it. free loyalty, embedded online ordering, clean integration into a marketplace with third-party providers. We have a roadmap right now that's not far out with capital and payroll offerings. Hardware looks good. They're going to be excited to go out and win with it. I mean, it's not hard to see. You know, Toast is doing very well in the marketplace. I think that the two fastest growing players, at least within the restaurant vertical, would be us and Toast. If we're introducing sexier, better, you know, hardware with new software interface, with more capabilities embedded into it, of course, our partners are going to be charged up to get out there and distribute it, not just to, you know, our existing customers, which for sure there is a nice SaaS list and other revenue opportunities that are coming from it, but just going out and continuing to win in what is a very large addressable market.
spk11: Excellent. Thank you both for all that context. I appreciate it.
spk05: Our next question comes from Andrew Jeffrey from Tourist Securities. Andrew, your line is open.
spk09: Hi. Good morning. I appreciate you taking the time this morning. I'm intrigued by the SAS comments and the opportunity, Jared, and I wonder if you could talk a little bit about perhaps some of the areas where you think you have the greatest opportunity to drive attach and how you might help us think about that over time. Do you start to talk about something akin to an ARPU? I'm just trying to think about how we're going to track that and where you're most excited about the opportunity.
spk12: Yeah, Andrew, there's some good questions there, and I think Brad should weigh in on part of it on how we're thinking about, you know, reporting our progress going forward. But, you know, I think what we're sharing today is, you know, we're an aggressive organization. We like to move boldly forward. We did a number of acquisitions back in 2017 on restaurant POS software companies that had, you know, no SaaS revenue, but they also had no payment revenue. We've been a payments company for 22 years. We know how to find success leading with payments. And we went after all those customers, plus a lot of new customers using that software, primarily monetizing that relationship through payments. And it worked incredibly well. As a result, though, here we are at the end of 2021 where we have a lot of restaurants using our restaurant software out there, driving a lot of payments volume and paying little to no staff. And that doesn't seem like very reflective of the time. So as we go back out there to the market, in the market, with our immense network of distribution partners, sell new customers, as well as upgrade our base of existing customers, SaaS will be a component of the product. I don't think that's going to be surprising or there's any pushback from the customers. I think they're going to love to upgrade to a sexier new platform with cool hardware and a lot of features. I think they're going to be happy to pay some SaaS fees along the way. And we're going to continue to capture the same payment economics we already have, plus some new levers from capital, payroll, and marketplace. And we're going to pick up a lot of operational efficiencies because it's a lot easier to support one software type than four or five. And it's certainly a lot easier to support an Android-based environment than it is a Windows-based. So a lot of opportunity there. I don't think it's a big reach at all. But I'll kick it over to Brad on how best we're going to keep you informed of that progress.
spk04: Hey, Andrew. It is a great question. And just to kind of build a little bit on what Jared was saying, it used to be we would try to migrate completely out of SaaS into payments. We found there's some really good SaaS revenue in there. There's really good revenue that's growing, and it's recurring. And it creates a lot of really good sticky behavior with your customers. So as we evolve into some of these new verticals, you know, we are paying a lot of attention to how we're reassessing our pricing models and our pricing programs to make sure that we have a right balance between that SAS element and the payments element. So what we're going to be looking at is, to your point, some type of an ARPU measure, but we're also looking at what is an average monthly fee for the different services we provide. And if you think about what generates SaaS, it's not only the software, but it's also some of those peripheral things I mentioned a minute ago, whether it's analytics, whether it's pay-at-the-table, online payments, all of these different elements. So a big thing for us is to make sure we can kind of recast our pricing models to capture anywhere we can. So we are going to start talking more about SaaS, what's generating SaaS, how it's behaving, and how it's growing. So we will have more to come on how we're actually going to deliver that.
spk09: Okay. Yeah. I look forward to that. And then just as we come out of pandemic and, and things start to normalize for restaurants and they start to assess install technology and, and as shift four becomes more of a software company, how do you address those merchants that might be running on closed systems, even, even as, as, and, and shift four customers, I'm thinking about micros and radiant, for example,
spk12: Yeah, so, hey, Jared here. You know, I'm going to kind of emphasize this a little bit in the investor field day, but customers who are migrating to Shift4, they're not dumb. They're not making bad decisions, you know, going from, like, one non-integrated solution to another or something. I mean, Shift4 is an integrated payments company. We connect into software, and we make a lot of connections besides just payments. So even, you know, Oracle micros customers that use our technology can tap into, you know, handheld pay-a-table, order-a-table, QR code-based payments, QR code-based online ordering, right? You know, we make available to them our loyalty application. Our marketplace does connect into a number of different software applications besides just SkyTech POS. So, you know, when customers like Tau and Hockathon have moved over to Shift4 in the last year, They're not doing it at a great expense to the organization from a technology or software perspective. They're making really informed decisions. So, you know, I think that when you see the restaurant payment volume growth that we've outlined in the slide and the spreads associated with it, it's because smart merchants are making good choices. There just happens to be more than one choice out there than toast. It's not a winner-take-all environment. So we love all the software integrations we have already out in the field and the capabilities associated with it, but we're also looking to the future, which is why we built Skytab POS. And that will be appropriate for a lot of customers to migrate to. It'll be appropriate to win a lot of share away from, say, you know, NTR and other players that are not partnered with Shift4. And then there will be a lot of software that we currently support today that will be very appropriate for the long term for our customers.
spk03: Hopefully that helps. Yeah, you know, I just want to pile on there with your comment. Thank you. You know, there's one comment you made is that, you know, we're more of a software company. We've been a software company for a very long time, and we operate, you know, several brands underneath. We clearly de-emphasize that to the public market because, you know, payments, we say, is our North Star. But if you look at a product like Harbor Touch, it's been, you know, payments plus SaaS for an incredibly long time. So we're really just augmenting the go-to-market on a product level a little bit within the restaurant space. And I think, you know, the fact that we de-emphasized an ability to grow SaaS revenue during a pandemic wasn't because outside of a pandemic we don't have a lot of leverage in that. It was just our assessment of the market, you know, at the time of our IPO was this isn't the right time to push customers towards new product and incremental, you know, fees. Now we feel that there's an increased demand in that. Now behind the scenes, you see that we've added 2,000 restaurants to this platform over about the same time period. So clearly a very capable product. Clearly there's some demand in the marketplace. Our assessment is that demand is going to be outsized as a result of exiting the pandemic as compared to where it was. and tons of software talent inside of Shift4 that had been less product loyal than we're kind of pushing them towards now, which is actually, you know, we do want you to go forward with this product. We think it's the right time. We think it's going to win more than some of the other products inside of our stack, and so now's the time to go.
spk09: It's exciting. It's how you're going to drive the multiple. Appreciate all the color. Thank you.
spk05: Our next question comes from Chris Donat from Piper Sandler. Chris, please go ahead.
spk08: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Taylor, I just wanted to maybe approach the issue of fourth quarter expectations from a historical perspective, if that's even valid. You gave us nice comparisons with 2020 in October, November, December. Can you talk about what cadence you saw in like 2018 or 2019, or is that even... fair given how the business mix has changed for you over the last couple years?
spk03: I don't know that it's fair. It's fair to the extent you can take sort of a business that was predominantly restaurant and specialty retail focused back then with a much smaller average merchant and correlate that to a lot of hotels and stadiums. And I think there are certain trends that are consistent, meaning the times of the year that people like to go out and celebrate and go to events. and travel, and there's others that are less consistent. So I don't necessarily think, and trust me, if I thought we could give a good seasonality profile, we would. It's not lost on us that we deliver a very confusing message in that regard. It's just the reality of winning much, much, much higher quality merchants in segments that are adjacent to what our core verticals had been back then. We don't expect that the shift is going to be radical as COVID disappears, but you do expect some of the months that have been peak are your second best month or your third best month or something like that. How it translates to this quarter, again, we feel good about our guide. We feel like it's appropriate based on what we've seen one month into the quarter. And there's some uncertainty within really decent pockets of our merchant-based hotels specifically that we're just not clear on exactly how that's going to play through. Yet we think that if it plays through in a modest way, our guide is a great guide.
spk10: Okay. Thanks very much, Taylor.
spk05: Our next question comes from John Davis from Raymond James. John, your line is open.
spk03: Hello? Hey, John, you there?
spk05: John Davis from Raymond James, your line is open. Please go ahead with your question.
spk03: John has our email, so either we can hop to the next question or I think we might be through the queue. So let us know what you'd like us to do, Emily.
spk05: We currently have no further questions, so I'll now hand back to Jared to conclude today's call.
spk12: Thank you very much. I appreciate everyone dialing in. Just as a reminder, we have an investor field day that's kicking off shortly, and we put an awful lot of slides out this morning, and there's quite a bit to talk about. So we invite all of you that have dialed in to join us during the investor field day, either on-site or through the virtual connection, and we have a lot more exciting things to talk about. Thank you very much for dialing in.
spk05: Thank you, everyone, for joining today's call. This now concludes our conference, so please disconnect your lines.
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