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Operator
for a 2021 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, you may signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then one. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. Please also note today's event is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference call over to Howard Rebell, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, please go ahead.
Howard Rebell
Howard Rebell Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the General Dynamics first quarter 2021 conference call. Any forward-looking statements made today represent our estimates regarding the company's outlook. These estimates are subject to some risks and uncertainties. Additional information regarding these factors is contained in the company's 10-K, 10-Q, and 8-K filings. With that completed, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Phoebe Novakovic.
Howard Rebell
Thank you, Howard. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for being with us. As you can discern from our press release, we reported earnings of $2.48 per diluted share on revenue of $9.4 billion, operating earnings of $938 million, and net income of $708 million. Revenue is up $640 million, or 7.3% against the first quarter last year. Operating earnings are up $4 million, and net earnings are up $2 million. To be a little more granular, revenue on the defense side of the business is up against last year's first quarter by $444 million, and aerospace is up $196 million. The operating earnings on the defense side are up $45 million, or 6.4%, while operating earnings in the aerospace side are down $20 million, but still nicely above consensus. I'll have more to say about this a bit later. The operating margin for the entire company was 10%, 70 basis points lower than the year-ago quarter. This was driven by a 250 basis point lower margin rate at aerospace, as was fully anticipated in our guidance to you, combined with $21 million more in corporate operating expense. From a slightly different perspective, we beat consensus by 18 cents per share. We have roughly 500 million more in revenue than anticipated by the sell side, and almost 50 more in operating earnings. So it's a pure operations beat. I must confess that we also beat our own expectations rather handsomely. This is, in almost all respects, a very solid quarter. It's hard to find something not to like about it. It's a very good start to the year. So let me move right into some color around the performance of the business segment, have Jason add color around cash, backlog, taxes, and deployment of cash, and then we'll answer your questions. First, aerospace. Aerospace enjoyed revenue of $1.9 billion and operating earnings of $220 million with an 11.7% operating margin. Revenue is almost $200 million higher than anticipated by us and the sell-side. Revenue is also $196 million higher than the year-ago quarter. The difference is almost exclusively more G500 and G600 deliveries than the year-ago quarter. The 11.7% operating margin is lower than the year-ago quarter, but consistent with our guidance and sell-side expectations. Finally, we took some mark-to-market charges with respect to our G500 test inventory. Without the charge from a pure operating perspective, performance in the quarter was superb. Aerospace also had a very strong quarter from an orders perspective with a book-to-bill of 1.3 to 1. Gulfstream alone had a book-to-bill of 1.34 to 1. In unit terms, this is the strongest order quarter for the last two years, excluding the fourth quarter of 2019 when we launched the G700. The sales activity truly accelerated in the middle of February and continued on through the remainder of the quarter. The momentum developed in the quarter appears to be rolling over into the second quarter as well. We are experiencing a high level of interest in activity. It is constructive to see this accelerated activity level without the benefit of the removal of travel restrictions and quarantine requirements in many countries outside the US. Demand should improve even further when these restrictions are ultimately removed. Gulfstream experienced a 5.7% increase in service revenue. On the other hand, Jet Aviation's FBOs and certain of its maintenance facilities are recovering more slowly. Jet aviation service revenue is down around $31 million, coupled with a modest increase in service operating earnings. The FBOs and MRO sites will do much better as business travelers accelerate. The G500 and G600 continue to perform well. Margins are improving on a consistent basis, and quality is superb. As of the end of last week, we have delivered 104 of these aircraft to customers. The G700 has over 1,400 test hours on the five test aircraft, and the first fully outfitted G700 is flying. Its interior is absolutely beautiful. We remain on track for entry into service in the fourth quarter of 2022. Looking forward, we expect the second quarter to be our most challenging from a delivery perspective. However, we also expect rapid improvement in the third and fourth quarters as we had planned for an increase in production and more delivery. Combat Systems. Combat Systems has revenue of $1.8 billion, up 6.6% over the year-ago quarter. While all three companies within the group contributed to the growth, the primary source was increased sales of our 8x8 wheeled combat vehicles to Switzerland and Spain, and sales of our 6x6 Eagle vehicles. So all in all, good growth. It is also interesting to observe that combat systems revenue has grown in 16 of the last 18 quarters on a quarter-over-the-year-ago quarter basis. Operating earnings at $244 million are up 9.4% on higher volume and a 30 basis point improvement in margin. This was an impressive performance by any reasonable measure. You may recall that a notable development for this segment in the year-ago quarter was the formal signing of the restructured contract on the Canadian International Program, which settled all issues. The parties continued to perform on that contract as contemplated. This was helpful to free cash flow last year and continues to be so this year. This risk item appears to be behind us. Turning to marine systems. You may recall that at this time a year ago, I was able to report that revenue in the first quarter of 2020 was up 9.1% against the first quarter in 2019. I am very pleased to report today that first quarter 2021 revenue of $2.48 billion is up 10.6% against first quarter 2020. The growth was led by Block 5 Virginia-class and Columbia-class construction volume. We also enjoyed nice increases in ESB and TAO construction volume at NASCO. This is very impressive continued growth. In fact, revenue in this group has been up for the last 14 quarters on a quarter versus the year-ago quarter basis. Operating earnings are $200 million in the quarter, up $16 million, or 8.7%, on an operating margin of 8.1%. We will strive to improve our operating margin as we progress through the year. On the order side, I should observe that total backlog was down only $231 million sequentially, leaving a powerful $49.8 billion in total backlog. There was obviously significant order activity in the quarter, including the award of the 10th Block 5 Virginia Class Summary. Finally, technologies. This segment had revenue of almost $3.2 billion in the quarter, up $95 million from the year-ago quarter, or 3.1%. The revenue increase was supplied by information technology, mostly associated with the ramp-up of new programs. IT alone grew 5% in the quarter. Operating earnings at $306 million or up $8 million or 2.7% on a 9.6% operating margin. This is about 40 basis points ahead of consensus. EBITDA margin is an impressive 13.3%, including state and local taxes, which are a 50 basis point drag on that result. Most of our competitors carry state and local taxes below the line. This is a best-in-class EBITDA margin. Total backlog grew $359 million sequentially, and total estimated contract value remained about the same. There were also some notable items in GDIT's first quarter worth mentioning. On the bid and proposal front, GDIT submitted the highest dollar value of proposals in any quarter since the acquisition of CSRA, 90 percent of which represent new business opportunities. They ended the quarter with over $30 billion in proposals awaiting customer decision, most of which also represent new business opportunities versus re-competition of existing work. So good order activity in the quarter with a book to bill of 1.1 to 1 and good order prospects on the horizon. That concludes my remarks with respect to a very good quarter. As you know, we never update guidance at this time of the year. We will, however. give you a comprehensive update at the end of the second quarter, as is our custom. I'll now turn the call over to our CFO, Jason Aiken, for further remarks, and then we'll take your questions.
Howard
Jason Aiken Thank you, Phoebe, and good morning. I'll start with our cash performance in the quarter. From an operating cash flow perspective, we essentially broke even for the quarter. Including capital expenditures, our free cash flow was negative $131 million. For those of you who followed us for some time, you know we've been a fairly significant user of cash in the first quarter for the past several years. This quarter was a marked improvement from that pattern, due in large part to the strong order activity at Gulfstream and ongoing progress payments on our large international combat systems program, consistent with the contract amendment Phoebe referenced earlier. So the quarter was nicely ahead of our expectations and reinforces our outlook for the year of free cash flow conversion in the 95% to 100% range. Looking at capital deployment, I mentioned capital expenditures, which were $134 million in the quarter, or 1.4% of sales. That's down between 25% and 30% from the first quarter a year ago, but we're still expecting full-year CapEx to be roughly 2.5% of sales. We also paid $315 million in dividends and increased the quarterly dividend by a little more than 8% to $1.19 per share. And we spent nearly $750 million on the repurchase of 4.6 million shares at an average price of just over $161 per share. After all this, we ended the first quarter with a cash balance of $1.8 billion and a net debt position of $11.4 billion, down $1.3 billion from this time last year. Net interest expense in the quarter was $123 million, up from $107 million in the first quarter of 2020. The increase in 2021 is due to the incremental debt issued last year in conjunction with the refinancing of maturing notes. We have $3 billion of outstanding debt maturing later this year, and we plan to refinance a portion of those notes to achieve a more balanced deployment of capital, but this will still result in a declining debt balance this year and beyond. During the quarter, Congress passed the American Rescue Plan Act. As you may be aware, it contains two provisions that affect our business. First, it extends the provision of the CARES Act that allows reimbursement of contractor payments to workers who are prevented from working due to COVID-related facility closures. This will continue to benefit our technologies business, although it does not provide for fee on those costs, so that will have an ongoing diluted impact on the segment's margins. Second, the Act provides pension funding relief by reducing the amount of required contribution to our pension plans this year by a couple hundred million dollars. However, this same provision reduces the amount of pension costs we are reimbursed on our U.S. government contracts. As a result, when coupled with the lower tax benefit from the reduced pension contributions, the impact on our 2021 cash flow is immaterial. We expect the cash benefit from the Act to increase modestly over the next couple of years, reinforcing our expectation that free cash flow can exceed 100% of net income over that period. The tax rate in the quarter at 16.2% is consistent with our full-year expectation, so no change to our outlook on that front. Finally, order activity and backlog were once again a strong story in the first quarter, with a one-to-one book-to-bill for the company as a whole, even as we grew by more than 7% in the quarter. As Phoebe mentioned, the order activity in the aerospace and technologies groups led the way with a 1.3 times and 1.1 times book-to-bill respectively. We finished the quarter with a total backlog of $89.6 billion. That's up 4.5% over this time last year. And total potential contract value, including options and IDIQ contracts, was $131.4 billion, up 6% over the year-ago quarter. Howard, that concludes my remarks. I'll turn it back over to you for the Q&A.
Howard Rebell
Thank you, Jason. As a reminder, we ask participants to ask one question and one follow-up so that everyone has a chance to participate. Operator, could you please remind participants how to enter the queue?
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will begin the question and answer session. Once again, to ask a question, please press star and then one using a touch-tone telephone. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. If you are using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please pick up the handset before pressing the numbers to ensure that you join the question queue. Once again, that is star and then one to join the queue. And we do ask that you please limit yourselves to a single question and one follow-up. Our first question today comes from John Ravik from Shitty. Please go ahead with your question.
John Ravik
Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for the opportunity here. Question actually on GDAT. The path, I think you guys have talked about about 7% growth this year. You did 5% in the first quarter, so definitely a good start. So any kind of milestones to look upon there? And then just overall commentary on the environment. We've heard of some delays in slowness in awards. Some other contractors have been highlighting some disruptions that impact the organic growth. So any view as to how that's impacting your 21 and how that could flow out over 22 as some of these new awards come through?
Howard Rebell
So as I noted, we submitted a very large number of proposals in the quarter, and we're awaiting over $30 billion in customer decisions on contracts And COVID obviously had some impact on that decision-making process. But we expect that as the government gets back the full operating cadence, that we will begin to work through some of that backlog on the order decisions. And with respect to milestones, if you think about it this way, this is such a large business with 7,000 contracts, there really aren't any external milestones to necessarily look for. But we were very pleased and not surprised with the growth that they exhibited. And frankly, the fact that many of their new program wins were the major factors behind the increase. So all in all, we look to be in pretty good stead.
John Ravik
And then, as a brief follow-up, again, sticking to the technology and maybe also IT market, when you look at this huge, almost backlog of things to be adjudicated, you mentioned that a lot of it is new business. Would you consider a lot of this new business to be takeaways from other contractors, or is this some element of white space almost with the government creating and doing more things that are contractor-addressable?
Howard Rebell
So I think it's a combination. I think we're winning more than our fair share. Number one. Number two, the government is combining a number of pre-existing current workloads into larger contracts, given that the scale and magnitude of the effort that's required, again, is a good thing for us to bid on those large contracts. And then some of it is just pure program lens. So I think that's pretty much how we see that market unfolding.
John Ravik
Thank you very much.
Operator
Our next question comes from Seth Seifman from JP Morgan. Please go ahead with your question.
Seth Seifman
Thanks very much, and good morning. Hi, Seth. I was wondering if you could. I think you mentioned some inventory write down on G 500. I was wondering if you could quantify that and just so we could have a cleaner look at the airspace margin.
Howard Rebell
yeah so um we're not in the habit of giving detailed product by product margin we did have a mark to market on some of our test airplanes on the on the 500 test airplanes which which is pretty much to be expected with with test airplanes but we see that as as largely behind us so i noted that just to tell to give you all some color that absent that we would have seen even better operating performance.
Seth Seifman
Right. I guess maybe without quantifying it, is it possible to talk a little bit about, I guess, the trajectory of margins at aerospace that we should expect through the year and sort of as we go into Q2?
Howard Rebell
So we expect, as I noted, deliveries to be lower in Q2, margins to be compressed in Q2, but increasing nicely then quarter over quarter as we go through Q3 and into Q4. But recall, we have noted before that we see 2021 as our lowest margin. year for all the reasons that we noted, not the least of which is we took out 10 airplanes, largely as a result, you know, in our production last year, largely as a result of the end of the 550 production and some mid-cabin. So when demand begins to increase or increasingly picks up, And we also see some return to what we had considered our normal production rates, enhanced delivery rates. So that will drive margin. And by the way, when you think about margin, particularly going into next year, you can't discount the impact of the entry and disservice of the 700s.
Operator
Our next question comes from Kai Von Remar from Callen. Please go ahead with your question.
Kai Von Remar
Yes, thanks so much. Good quarter, Phoebe. So could you give us some more color on demand at Gulfstream? You basically said it's broadly based, but first, you know, what are we looking at in terms of, corporate demand, which we've heard is still weak, and ultra-high net worth, which we've heard is very strong. Any color on specific models? Like I think you said, you had 70 orders for the G700. Is that number moving up at a decent pace?
Howard Rebell
In the inverse order, yes, that number is moving up with respect at a good pace. With respect to the balance in this quarter order activity, it really was a broad section across all buyers. We're beginning to see some of the big Fortune 500s reenter the market space as clarity around the U.S. economy increases. And to that end, the U.S. had a strong order quarter and accounted for more than half of this quarter's orders. So, look, if you think about demand as we see the lifting of the international travel restrictions and removal of quarantine restrictions and the increased confidence of, obviously, the U.S. economy, but also global economies, we expect to see demand continue to And should it, we see Gulfstream as being in very good stead.
Kai Von Remar
So you mentioned demand getting better, and we know that pre-owned prices continue to come down, and we have the weird situation where all this is happening while international routes are not opening up. Given the strength and demand, if you wanted or if the demand were there to sort of deliver more planes, how long would it take you to kind of uptick your production rate so that we can see those deliveries moving up?
Howard Rebell
So on average, it takes about six months lead time. But we're looking at just a few more production airplanes, as I noted in my remarks. And we'll continue to adjust and be sufficiently agile as we see demand continue to increase. So I like how we've balanced ourselves right now, prudent. yet forward-looking, and we are pretty efficient when it comes to ramping up, but it does take a lead time of about two quarters.
Kai Von Remar
Thank you.
Operator
And our next question comes from David Strauss from Barclays. Please go ahead with your question.
David Strauss
Thanks. Good morning. Good morning, David. Steve, we wanted to follow up on some of your earlier comments around the margin at Gulfstream. So, you know, over time we got used to this being a mid- to high-teens business. You know, is that still the right way to think about this business going forward, particularly when the 700 comes in? And do you expect, you know, the 700 to be margin accretive when it starts to deliver?
Howard Rebell
so the 700 will be margin accretive when we begin deliveries we think about this on given our portfolio and our place in the firmament as a mid-teen margin business for the short term but as you can imagine we'll continue to work margins And as we've talked about many times before, margins at Gulfstream are driven by a whole host of issues, not the least of which is service mix. mix of airplanes. And when we were hitting our apex of margin a couple of years ago, that was, as you recall, an acceleration of the 650 backlog, which had a salutary effect of better aligning 650 demand with with the backlog so there wasn't too much of a wait for people, but also helping us transition through that period when we were replacing the 450-500 or 450-550 with 500 and 600. So that is largely behind us. And we, as I said, expect to see some nice margin accretion as we go forward.
David Strauss
Great. That's helpful. Jason, could you comment a little bit on the moving pieces of capital and what to expect there? Inventories come down a bit, advances have been a bit of a headwind. So just how we should expect the different pieces within working capital to move from here. Thanks. Thanks.
Howard
Sure. You'll recall the major moving pieces that we've talked about sort of outside the normal run rates for the business in general have been the elevated inventory level at Gulfstream as we've invested in the new models between test airplanes and the buildup for production and entry into service. That obviously has been a headwind for several years now. We saw that start to turn at the end of last year a little bit better than we thought was going to happen, a little earlier than we thought was going to happen. And so that helped us outperform our cash flow expectations for 2020. You can think about that for Gulfstream continuing to normalize this year. We'll start to see the 500s and 600s hit that inflection point and no longer be a headwind. But at the same time, keep in mind, we're building up on the 700s as that program moves toward entry into service. So that'll become a little more neutral this year and then eventually shift into a tailwind in the 2022 period and beyond. The other piece is obviously the large international program at Combat Systems, which again was a a headwind for several years. That turned with the modification of that contract that Phoebe discussed earlier into a more neutral event last year. So that stabilized last year and becomes a very modest tailwind this year, and then becomes a more meaningful tailwind in 22, 23, and a little bit more in 24. So when you think about the way those two pieces are moving, That kind of gets us on a cash flow trajectory from, if you go back to 2019, we were in the 60-ish percent range, moving toward an expectation of the 80% range last year. We outperformed that a little bit, as Gulfstream did a little better. And now we're in the mid-to-high 90% range. The one piece there that's still sort of keeping us out of the 100% range really is the elevated investment profile in CapEx at Marine Systems. So once that normalizes, Next year, it gets back into the 2% of sales range. You should expect to see us, the whole business at large, being in the 100% to 100%-plus range, really with those two working capital pieces at Gulfstream and Combat Systems becoming the tailwinds that allow us to get even nicely above 100%. So, that's kind of the trajectory for all those major moving pieces. Hopefully, that gives you a sense of where we're going and the basis for our expectation for the improvement that we see ahead.
David Strauss
Yep, absolutely. Thanks very much.
Operator
Our next question comes from Ron Epstein from Bank of America. Please go ahead with your question.
Ron Epstein
Yeah, hey, good morning. Good morning, Ron. How are you? Switching over to the ship business, how is Electric Boat adjusting to both having the Virginia class and the Columbia class in everything that they've got to do in terms of workforce, supply chain, so on and so forth? How's that going?
Howard Rebell
It's going very well on both ramping up Virginia and, equally importantly, more significantly, Columbia. You know, there's something important to remember when you think about Columbia. We started work on that program 14 years ago. And in that 14-year period, we have worked assiduously with the Navy to reduce all known potential risks that we could foresee in the ramp-up of a very complex new program. And that included workforce hiring and training, supply chain readiness, facility readiness, You know, construction prototyping, technology readiness, retiring potential known risks or potential risks in new high-end technologies, and then the design maturity. This boat entered into construction with an 83% design completion level, in great contrast to Virginia, which has been an exemplary program at 43%. So all of this prior planning and 14 years of detailed blocking and tackling at every conceivable level has mitigated an awful lot of risk and allowed us to proverbially hit the ground running on Columbia. And so far so good. I will note it's a very complex program, so you can't declare victory on any shipbuilding program right out of the bat. But we have taken unprecedented and historically unprecedented measures
Ron Epstein
to retire all the known risks going forward so that has really allowed us to execute um coming right out of the gates very strongly they've done a very good job got it got it got it and you know it seems like the the focus on the pacific's been good for the ship business how's it been for gulfstream i mean when you when you think about u.s china relations has that had an impact on gulfstream demand in the region uh not that we can see
Howard Rebell
So our demand in Asia has been quite steady and good. We've got a nice, large installed base, a lot of customer intimacy there. So to date, we have not seen a particular impact.
Ron Epstein
Got it, got it. Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from Miles Walton from UBS. Please go ahead with your question.
Miles Walton
Thanks. Good morning.
Howard Rebell
Good morning, Mel.
Miles Walton
We haven't heard your thoughts on M&A for a little bit, so I was hoping maybe we could go there. Obviously, you're getting to a point on your leverage, which is getting pretty attractive, building up plenty of firepower. What are you looking at in terms of the landscape? GD has always historically been an acquisitive company. Is the appetite growing there?
Howard Rebell
So we have been through a significant investment period across many of our large lines of business, and our focus here is on execution and primary focus. We always look for potential niche bolt-ons here and there, but we don't see anything on the horizon here of any significant opportunities that would entice us.
Miles Walton
And, Jason, what's the target ratios that we're aiming for? I know you said you'll refinance some of it, but maybe a little color there.
Howard
Yeah, I think perhaps less of a target ratio than, you know, we're going to continue to prioritize our mid-A rating. That's always going to be sort of where we seek to land long-term. And so the key for us right now is we had, as you're aware, sort of an outsized level of interest. of debt maturing this year versus if you look out over the next 10 to 20 years uh what our what our debt ladder maturity uh phasing looks like and so really what we're aiming to do is sort of bring that into more of a balanced uh picture of capital deployment that allows us to uh step down the debt over time uh in in reasonable measures as well as have uh you know considerable uh flexibility and firepower available for for other deployment opportunities all right thank you
Operator
And our next question comes from Sheila from Jefferies. Please go ahead with your question.
spk00
Good morning, everyone. Thank you. Hey, Phoebe, maybe a big picture question for you because I know Howard always has us covered on the numbers. You've been at GD as CEO for almost a decade now and at the company for 20 years. How do you think about where GD goes over the next decade, whether from a portfolio focus or customer focus as the budget flatlines or where operating leverage comes from that?
Howard Rebell
So from a strategic perspective, to invest in a number of our significant lines of business where we believe that we could realize the best return on invested capital and really drive value. We have been in that period at Gulfstream, GDIT. primarily Gulfstream GDIT and the Marine Group. So the key now, from my perspective, is all about execution. And execution has been the hallmark of everything that we do here, and it is the undergirding of all financial performance. And it requires discipline across a series of areas. of elements that are factors in all operations. But really, as I see the next several years, it's all about execution and drive nice value creation. Ultimately, long-term value, superb execution, wise investments, and smart capital deployment. So that's what I see us doing. Thank you very much.
Operator
Our next question comes from Pete Skibitsky from Olympic Global. Please go ahead with your question.
Pete Skibitsky
Yeah, good morning, Phoebe and Jason and Howard. Morning. Phoebe, I was wondering, in combat, I'm wondering if you could give us a sense of what international orders are out there for you, maybe both, you know, kind of sole source expectations as well as competitive opportunities.
Howard Rebell
So international consists of two items. Primarily... sales outside the United States from entities outside, from our business units outside the United States, as well as FMS sales emanating from the United States. And unfortunately, for the state of an increasingly dangerous place, And so we see the reflection of that concern in many U.S. allies with increased demand for many of our products. In Europe, Eastern Europe, a little bit in Asia, parts of the Middle East, and in the former Commonwealth nations and the U.K. as well. So we look for nice, steady demand signals. coming from outside the United States for our business units that are domiciled ex-US. And FMS, the United States has had a long history of providing its allies with FMS opportunities And we have a number of those in our opportunities in our combat systems, again, selling to key U.S. allies positioned in particularly dangerous spots. So we see that nice cadence continuing in terms of our orders.
Pete Skibitsky
Okay. And U.S.-wise, do you expect programs that you're competing for, the MPF and OMFV, do you think they survive any budget tightness?
Howard Rebell
So new programs are always the most vulnerable. But with MPF, we were – The only contractor to develop, I think there were 12 prototypes. We delivered those last year. We like our offering. We think it's what the Army wants, but we're very attuned to Army demands and how they see their fight, and that's where intimacy with the Army helps significantly. That plus, you know, so with all of them at OMSB, That program got stretched considerably. So we are taking it seriously and participating, but there's a long way to go before that comes to fruition. But recall another element and a key element of Army modernization is upgrading with key, with important and innovative new technologies, their existing platforms. And for us, that means Stryker and Abrams and both are undergoing upgrades. major upgrade programs. So all in all, we see the demand for our programs continuing to go strong. And you know, there's nothing like, going back to the earlier comments about execution, there's nothing like performing on schedule and on budget to amplify and provide a bit of an antidote to any potential cuts that come in. Combat is the Army's major integrator of combat wield systems and will remain such. So that ensures that our place in the firmament remains pretty strong.
Pete Skibitsky
All right. Thank you very much.
Operator
And our next question comes from Peter Arment from Baird. Please go ahead with your question.
Ron
Yes, thanks. Good morning, Phoebe, Jason. Phoebe, a question on the budgets, I guess, just kind of following up on your comments there. We got the skinny budget from the new administration, and obviously we're going to get a lot more details soon. But how are you thinking about just the alignment with the new administration priorities when you look at GD's portfolio? Thanks.
Howard Rebell
Clearly, as I think perhaps as Ron mentioned, the demand for products that meet the Pacific Theater has increased. That puts our shipbuilding... business, particularly submarines, in a very good stead. And you can see all of both the rhetoric, the funding, supporting increased submarine production. And we are executing on the current programs of record and working with the Navy to see how additional submarines can be executed in a relatively short term. um... with respect to our combat systems group you know uh... unfortunately but regrettably the case the hottest uh... the hottest theater at the moment is russia and um... so whether we like it or not that is the reality with which we were faced and this administration has been very quick to respond appropriately to the russians and so you see um... We believe that the combat system is highly aligned with that reality that we're now faced with in Europe. So, all in all, we like our positioning with the new administration's priority. You know, remember, in particular, administration and this president has been throughout his long and distinguished career. U.S. national security strategy is driven by the threat or the perception of threat that has not changed. So we see priority among systems, but in all instances we see ourselves very well aligned.
Ron
And just as a quick follow-up, you know, something that doesn't get talked a lot about, but you have a lot of cyber capabilities, maybe you could just give us a little color on how you see the opportunities there. Thanks.
Howard Rebell
So if you mean from both cyber Cyber is embedded in all of our business, and if you get to, you know, what I think you referred to as PSYOP, you know, one would be, it would be the height of folly to discuss any of that. But let's just put it this way. We have always been on the leading edge of innovations with respect to cyber and electronic technology. technologies that apply to the real-world fight in the moment.
Ron
Appreciate all the calling. Thanks, Phoebe.
Operator
Our next question comes from Richard Safran from Seaport Global. Please go ahead with your question.
Richard Safran
Phoebe, Jason, Howard, good morning. How are you? Good morning. First question I had is I was interested in the announcement, and I think it was back in February, where at IT you added Amazon Cloud Services to the MillCloud 2.0. What I wanted to know was, you know, how much does the addition of Amazon enhance your offering? Was this something that, you know, just improved the cost on the program, or is this something that maybe opens up new opportunities for expanding cloud service to the government? Just anything you can tell us regarding the size of the opportunity or what this does would be appreciated.
Howard Rebell
So not surprisingly, the U.S. Department of Defense is moving as all major institutions are increasingly to the cloud. And so our cloud offerings are an incrementally important part of our offerings that we believe will ultimately drive increased adoption across our existing contracts and adoption of the technology system. suite that we offer. And frankly, an expansion of the market. So cloud presents a significant opportunity, and we are well positioned to execute on it.
Richard Safran
Okay. Thanks for that. And then second, and just a kind of a broad strategic question for you and your comments about execution. You know, over the past year or so, you've made a number of changes to adjust how you're operating. I was just wondering what are the more permanent changes in how you operate and, you know, that are going to persist long after, you know, COVID. I was just wondering how you're thinking about that impacting and improving margins.
Howard Rebell
So let me infer a little bit from the question you're asking. We hear a lot of anecdotal evidence that there may be systemic changes emanating from COVID that have to do with work at home. and what that might mean for commercial real estate footprint. We still believe it is too soon to declare any change structural. We do expect to see some, the extent to which remains to be seen, but some work from home, either in hybrid. capacities, or in some cases, more completely. But I don't see that move as something that is dispositive and determinative of real performance and execution. I think what you saw, going back to execution through COVID, and frankly, this company's performance across its business units during COVID was really a manifestation of the discipline that we have in all of our operating performance and our operating leverage. The more disciplined a company is, the better they were able to adapt to the vagaries and some of the really significant challenges that COVID provide, and frankly, to customers and the environment. So I think that, to me, it underscored, amplified our operating excellence. And I suspect that that will continue, an understanding of that will continue to permeate as we go forward. And we will continue to build on that. You know, operating excellence is never static. It has to get better and better and better. That's what continuous improvement is all about. And, frankly, we have a longstanding discipline around that. So I don't think there will be a structural change in our operating performance, but it simply undergirds the importance of on performance.
Richard Safran
Terrific, Cora. Thanks.
Operator
And, Jamie, will you please? And our final question comes from Robert Stallard from Vertical Resources. Please go ahead with your question.
Jamie
Thanks very much. Good morning.
Operator
Good morning.
Jamie
Phoebe, just a couple of quick ones on the Aerospace Division. Clearly a very strong first quarter here, but I was wondering if you had seen any demand pulled forward into the first quarter from the second quarter. How is the lead time for aircraft looking? Are we still looking at roughly 12 months between an order and a delivery? And also, how is pricing fared in the first quarter? Thank you.
Howard Rebell
So think about demand less about pull forward. Demand comes when it comes, and you execute it as it arrives on your doorstep. So what we saw with respect to demand is starting, as I noted, in mid-February, we saw a nice steady increase in demand across a broad specter of our competitors. customer base and and and the US we are initial and estimates show or indications are that that demand is carrying through into the second quarter pricing is holding up very well as you all know we are very it is precious once lost you don't get it back not without a hard slog so pricing has has done has done very well and And we'll, as I noted earlier, it's about six months to ramp up additional production. And I don't see that interim significantly changing anytime soon, given all of the elements that have to perform. So I hope that answers your question.
Jamie
Yep, that's very helpful. Thank you.
Howard Rebell
Operator? Thank you very much, everybody, for your time, and I will be available to answer your questions, and I can be reached in my office. Thank you very much.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending. You may now disconnect your lines.
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