2/16/2021

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Operator
Conference Operator

Good day, and welcome to the GeoGroup fourth quarter 2020 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Pablo Paez. Executive Vice President of Corporate Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

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Pablo Paez
Executive Vice President of Corporate Relations

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for today's discussion of the GeoGroup's fourth quarter and full year 2020 earnings results. With us today are George Zoli, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder, Brian Evans, Chief Financial Officer, Ann Schlard, President of GeoCare, and Blake Davis, President of GeoSecure Services. This morning, we will discuss our fourth quarter and full year results and our outlook. We will conclude the call with a question and answer session. This conference call is also being webcast live on our investor website at investors.geogroup.com. Today, we will discuss non-GAAP basis information. A reconciliation from non-GAAP basis information to GAAP basis results is included in the press release and the supplemental disclosure we issued this morning. Additionally, much of the information we will discuss today, including the answers we give in response to your questions, may include forward-looking statements regarding our beliefs and current expectations with respect to various matters. These forward-looking statements are intended to fall within the safe harbor provisions of the securities laws. Our actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors contained in our Securities and Exchange Commission filings including the Form 10-K, 10-Q, and 8-K reports. With that, please allow me to turn this call over to our Chairman and CEO, George Zolle. George?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Thank you, Pablo, and good morning to everyone. Today, we reported our fourth quarter and full year 2020 results and issued our final guidance for 2021. During the fourth quarter, our operating divisions continued to face challenges associated with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. Over the course of the pandemic, we experienced a decline in overall occupancy levels at several of our federal facilities. Due to the decline in overall federal population, we had previously announced that the Federal Bureau of Prisons had decided not to renew three of our BOP contracts that are scheduled to expire during the first quarter of 2021. More recently, the President issued an executive order directing the Attorney General to not renew DOJ contracts with privately operated criminal detention facilities. While we continue to monitor the scope and implementation timeline for this order, we have assumed that it could result in additional non-renewals of our BOP contracts in 2021 and coming years. and we have incorporated this assumption into our guidance. Unlike the BOP, the U.S. Marshals Service, which is also under the U.S. Department of Justice, does not own and operate its facility. The U.S. Marshals Service contracts for bed capacity, which is generally located in areas near federal courthouses to house pretrial offenders who have been charged with federal crimes under the laws passed by Congress. The U.S. Marshals Service contracts primarily for these facilities through intergovernmental service agreements and to a lesser extent direct contracts. The U.S. Marshals Service may determine to conduct a review of the possible application of the executive order on its facilities. Our GeoCare segment has also been impacted by lower occupancy levels across our reentry senators, day reporting programs, and youth services facilities due to COVID-19. During the fourth quarter, we incurred a non-cash goodwill impairment charge associated with our reentry centers, primarily due to the negative impact the pandemic had on this segment. Despite these challenges, we believe our company remains resilient and is underpinned by long-term real estate assets and supported by contracts entailing essential government services. We've provided these essential services to government agencies at the federal and state levels under both Democratic and Republican administrations and during times when either party has been in control of the legislative branch of the government. Our frontline employees remain focused on providing high-quality services and humane care for all those entrusted to us. During the past year, our employees have shown incredible commitment and resilience as our company has managed through unprecedented times, and we are very proud of their dedication. From the outset of the pandemic, we have implemented company-wide steps to mitigate the risk of COVID-19 to all those in our care and our employees, and we continue to evaluate these steps. Ensuring the health and safety of all those in our facilities and our employees has always been our number one priority. We also recognize that in addition to the challenges associated with COVID-19, heightened political rhetoric has led to a mischaracterization of our role as a government services provider and has created concerns regarding our future access to financing. Our board of directors and our management team are aware of the importance of allocating capital to pay down debt in the current environment. Consistent with our previous guidance, we paid down approximately $100 million in net debt during 2020. To continue our focus on paying down debt, our board recently reduced our quarterly dividend payment to 25 cents per share for the quarter. Our Board will continue to evaluate our dividend and capital allocation strategy, including our planned capital expenditures, with a goal of targeting a minimum of $75 to $100 million in net debt repayment in 2021 and annually thereafter. Additionally, we continue to evaluate cost savings opportunities at the corporate and facility levels, and we have identified several company-owned assets that could potentially be sold. We remain committed to balance our continued creation of value for our shareholders with prudent management of our balance sheet. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Brian Evans to review our financial results, guidance, and liquidity positions.

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, George. Good morning, everyone. Today, we reported fourth quarter revenues of approximately $578 million and net income attributable to GEO of 9 cents per diluted share. Our fourth quarter results reflect a non-cash goodwill impairment charge of approximately $21 million. This goodwill impairment charge is associated with our community-based reentry centers, which have been negatively impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Our fourth quarter results also reflect a $5.7 million pre-tax loss on real estate assets, a $2.3 million pre-tax gain on the extinguishment of debt, and $2.5 million in pre-tax COVID-19 related expenses. Excluding these items, we reported fourth quarter adjusted net income of 33 cents per diluted share. We also reported fourth quarter AFFO of 62 cents per diluted share. Moving to our outlook, the COVID-19 pandemic continues to have a negative impact on several segments of our company. The pandemic has resulted in lower occupancy levels at several of our facilities and programs beginning last March and continuing through the end of 2020. As we have previously disclosed, the Federal Bureau of Prisons has decided that it will not renew our contracts for the D. Ray James, Georgia, Rivers, North Carolina, and Moshannon Valley, Pennsylvania facilities due to the decline in the federal prison populations more recently as a result of the COVID pandemic. The D. Ray James facility contract expired on January 31st, and the two other contracts are set to expire on March 31st. And our guidance for 2021 accounts for these expirations. Additionally, the administration has issued an executive order directing the U.S. Attorney General to not renew DOJ contracts with privately operated criminal detention facilities. While we continue to monitor the scope and implementation timeline of this order, our guidance presently accounts for the potential non-renewal of three additional BOP contracts that have option periods expiring in 2021. The COVID-19 pandemic has also resulted in lower occupancy levels across our other federal reentry and youth facilities. Our 2021 guidance assumes the continued impact of COVID-19 in the first part of the year with a slow recovery to more normalized operations by year end. Our guidance also reflects the activation of our three ice annex facilities in California and our US Marshals facility in Eagle Pass, Texas, which began last year. We expect to achieve normalized operations at these four facilities over the course of 2021. Taking all these factors into account, we expect full year 2021 net income attributable to GEO to be in a range of $0.88 to $0.98 per diluted share on total revenues of approximately $2.24 billion to $2.27 billion. We expect full year 2021 APO to be in a range of $1.98 to $2.08 per diluted share. And we expect full year 2021 adjusted EBITDA to be in a range of $386 million to $400 million. For the first quarter 2021, we expect net income attributable to GEO to be in a range of 18 to 20 cents per diluted share on quarterly revenues of $579 million to $584 million. And we expect first quarter 2021 APO to be between 48 and 50 cents per diluted share. Moving to our capital structure, At the end of the fourth quarter, we had approximately $284 million in cash on hand and approximately $136 million in borrowing capacity available under our revolving credit facility, in addition to an accordion feature of $450 million under our credit facility. With respect to our capital expenditures, we expect total CapEx in 2021 to be approximately $104 million, including $26 million for maintenance CapEx and $77 million in growth CapEx. Our estimated growth CapEx for the year includes $32 million to upgrade our BI electronic monitoring devices to the new 5G cellular network and $45 million for facility CapEx. To continue our focus on paying down debt, our board reduced our quarterly dividend payment to $0.25 per share last month. In 2020, we paid down approximately $100 million in net debt consistent with our prior guidance. Our board will continue to evaluate our dividend and capital allocation strategy, including our planned capital expenditures, with the goal of targeting a minimum of $75 million to $100 million in net debt repayment in 2021 and annually thereafter. Additionally, we continue to dialogue with our lenders and creditors and are monitoring credit market conditions. We are also continuing to evaluate potential cost savings opportunities. as well as the potential sale of a number of company-owned assets. During the first quarter of 2021, we completed the sale of our interest in the Talbot Hall reentry facility with net proceeds of approximately $13 million. At this time, I'll turn the call over to Blake Davis for a review of our GeoSecure Services segment.

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Blake Davis
President of GeoSecure Services

Thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to provide you a brief update on the 2020 operational highlights for our GeoSecure Services business unit. Over the last 12 months, our operational efforts have been focused on implementing mitigation strategies to address the risks associated with COVID-19 pandemic. From the start of the pandemic, we began taking steps at our facilities to implement best practices consistent with the COVID-19 guidance that was issued for correctional and detention facilities by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. These practices included the implementation of quarantine, cohorting, and medical isolation procedures. We also have provided educational guidance to our employees and the individuals in our care on the best preventative measures to prevent the spread of COVID-19. We have continuously exercised paid leave and paid time off policies to allow our employees to remain at home if they exhibit flu-like symptoms or to care for family members. We remain focused on implementing increased sanitation measures and deploying personal protective equipment, including face masks for all employees and all those in our care. We have also taken steps to increase testing at our facilities, including the deployment of Abbott rapid test devices. We've administered over 51,000 COVID tests in our facilities at the close of 2020. We continuously evaluate these steps and will make adjustments based on updated guidance by the CDC and other best practices. Despite the unprecedented challenges associated with the pandemic, our frontline employees have remained focused on providing high-quality services and delivering humane and compassionate care for all those in our facilities. During 2020, our employees and facilities achieved several important milestones. Our facilities successfully underwent 100 audits, including internal audits, government reviews, third-party accreditation, and certification under the Prison Rape Elimination Act. Our medical services staff undertook over 350,000 quality healthcare-related encounters, including intake health screenings, sick calls, and off-site medical visits. During the year, we achieved over 42,000 employee training completions, and our GTI Transportation Division safely completed over 14 million miles driven. We are incredibly proud of our employees for their dedication and daily commitment to operational excellence. Before I turn the call over to Ann, I'd like to address the recent executive actions that have been announced by the new administration at the federal level. Last month, the President issued an executive order directing the Attorney General to not renew DOJ contracts with privately operated criminal detention facilities. While we continue to monitor the order's scope and implementation timeline, as we have noted in our recent announcements, the Bureau of Prisons has experienced a decline in federal populations, more recently due to COVID-19. As a result, the BOP has previously announced that it would not renew or re-bid three of our existing contracts with the agency. The contract at our DeRay James, Georgia facility ended on January 31st, and our contracts at our Rivers, North Carolina and Moshannon Valley, Pennsylvania facilities expire on March 31st. We have three additional company-owned facilities contracted with BOP that have current option periods expiring in 2021. our Great Plains, Oklahoma facility at the end of May, and our Big Spring and Flightline facilities in Texas at the end of November. Given the President's executive order and the decline in federal prison populations, we are preparing operationally for the potential that additional contracts with the Bureau of Prisons may not be renewed with their current option periods expire. The BOP owns and operates approximately 90% of the beds housing federal inmates. And since the late 1990s, the agency has used contractor-operated facilities as the swing capacity it needed to deal with overcrowding conditions in the federal prison system. Contractor-operated facilities have historically been used by the Bureau of Prisons to house almost entirely non-U.S. citizen criminal aliens serving sentences for federal crimes committed in the United States. Unlike the BOP, the U.S. Marshals Service which is also under U.S. Department of Justice, does not own and operate its facilities. The U.S. Marshals Service contracts for bed capacity, which is generally located in areas near federal courthouses, to house pretrial offenders who have been charged with federal crimes under laws passed by Congress. The U.S. Marshals Service contracts for these facilities primarily through intergovernmental service agreements and, to a lesser extent, direct contracts. the U.S. Marshal Service may determine to conduct a review of the possible application of the executive order in its facilities. The administration has also taken several executive actions related to immigration. However, at this time, there have been no directives related specifically to enforcement or detention policies. Earlier this month, the President signed an executive order establishing an interagency task force on the reunification of families to identify individuals migrant minors separated from their families. As we have publicly stated in the past, we do not manage any facilities that house unaccompanied migrant minors. Our ICE processing centers are highly rated by national accreditation organizations and provide high quality, culturally responsive services in a safe and humane environment. Typical amenities at our centers include flat screen TVs in the housing areas, multi-purpose rooms, outdoor covered pavilions, and artificial turf soccer fields. All those entrusted in our care are provided culturally sensitive meals approved by registered dietician, clothing, 24-7 access to health care services, and full access to telephone and legal services. Health care staffing at our ice processing centers is approximately double than that of our state correctional facilities. which is needed to provide appropriate treatment for individuals who have numerous and diverse health and mental health needs. We have provided high-quality services for over 30 years under Democratic and Republican administration, including eight years under President Obama's administration. And we welcome the opportunity to find ways to improve the delivery of services and accountability at ICE processing centers. At this time, I will turn the call over to Ann for a review of GeoCare.

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Ann Schlard
President of GeoCare

Thank you, Blake, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to briefly review the 2020 operational highlights for our GeoCare business unit. Consistent with the efforts undertaken by our GeoSecure services facilities, we have been focused on implementing COVID-19 mitigation strategies. All of our residential facilities and geo reentry, and GO Youth Services issued guidance consistent with the guidance issued by the CDC. We put in place quarantine and cohorting policies and procedures and provided educational and preventative guidance to our employees and all individuals in our care. We have focused our efforts on increased sanitation measures, testing, and deploying personal protective equipment, including face masks. We have continuously exercised paid leave and paid time off policies to allow our employees to remain home as needed. We have also implemented additional screening measures for entry into our facilities. We continuously evaluate these steps and will make adjustments as appropriate and necessary based on updated guidance by the CDC and other best practices. Despite the challenges associated with the pandemic, we have had several recent positive highlights. During the second half of 2020, we completed the reactivation of our company-owned Parkview Center in Alaska under a new 112-bed contract with the Alaska Department of Corrections. We also activated 11 new day reporting program sites with capacity to serve approximately 2,900 participants under a contract with the Tennessee Department of Corrections. And in Idaho, we activated four non-residential program locations to support up to 500 participants under a new partnership with the Idaho Department of Corrections. More recently, we're pleased to have been awarded a new contract with the Federal Bureau of Prisons for a 118-bed residential reentry center in Tampa. in the Tampa, Florida area, which we expect to activate during the second half of 2021. These positive milestones are indicative of the high quality services delivered by our employees daily. We are very proud of our frontline employees who have continued to deliver rehabilitation and reentry programming to those in our care through these difficult times, often in innovative ways, including through virtual technologies. We are particularly proud of our continued efforts of our Geo Continuum of Care programs. Our Continuum of Care programs integrates enhanced in-custody rehabilitation programs, including cognitive behavioral treatment, with post-release support services such as transitional housing, transportation, clothing, food, and job placement assistance. While we were significantly challenged during most of our 2020, our CoC sites achieved several very important milestones. Our academic programs awarded more than 1,200 high school equivalency degrees, and our vocational courses awarded close to 4,000 vocational training certifications. Our substance abuse treatment programs awarded more than 7,600 program completions. and we achieved over 34,000 behavioral program completions and more than 31,000 individual cognitive behavioral sessions. We also provided post-release support services to more than 3,600 individuals returning to their communities, with over 1,300 participants attaining employment. We believe that the scope of our continuum of care program is unparalleled and represents a significant contribution to criminal justice reform. At this time, I will turn the call back to George for his closing remarks.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Thank you, Anne. We are very proud of our employees who have demonstrated incredible commitment and dedication during this unprecedented global pandemic. Despite the significant challenges associated with COVID-19 and new policy changes at the federal level, we believe our company remains resilient and is supported by long-term real estate assets and contracts entailing essential government services. We've provided high-quality essential services for more than 30 years under both Democratic and Republican administrations. We recognize that heightened political rhetoric and the mischaracterization of our role as government service providers created concerns regarding our future access to financing and are aware of the importance of allocating capital to pay down debt in the current environment. To continue our focus on paying down debt, our board recently reduced our quarterly dividend payment and will continue to evaluate our dividend policy and capital allocation strategies. We remain committed to balance our continued creation of value to our shareholders with prudent management of our balance sheet and capital structure. That completes our presentation, and we would be glad to address any questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. And our first question will come from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. Please go ahead.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Good morning, George and Brian.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Good morning.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

The first question I wanted to ask, you guys, had a nice beat on the adjusted basis for the guidance you provided, um, in the third quarter, even in such a difficult operating environment. I just wonder if you could, um, expound a little bit more on how you guys ended up, uh, beating the third quarter guidance or the guidance made in the third quarter. Pardon me.

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So I think, uh, two main issues. We've consistently, during the pandemic, performed better in a number of cost categories in the facilities. And we continue to see that during the fourth quarter. And going into next year, you know, we haven't necessarily assumed that all that benefit will continue. So we've been conservative with regards to that benefit that we've been able to experience and manage. And then we also saw some you know, modest improvement in some of our occupancy levels at some of our facilities.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Okay, thank you for that. And on the BOP, I was wondering if you might be able to give us an idea of the three facilities that may be closed this year are not renewed, I guess I should say this year. You know, what kind of level of revenues are we talking about on an annual basis? Do those three contribute? And, you know, how do you think you can make up for that lost business? And I know last quarter you talked a little bit about Nebraska was doing an RFP. You were talking about, you know, potential ICE contracts here in the northeast. I think Hawaii is looking for some more space there. Maybe you could just give us a little kind of color on where else you're looking to, you know, offset some of the decline in the BOP business.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

We will be marketing those facilities should they become available and vacant to other correctional agencies, federal, state, and local. So, you know, those facilities are generally available you know, well located in relationship to large populations and are among the most modern facilities in the country. So, you know, we think we have well-designed assets that are well located and can be recommissioned for other clients in the future. And we will devote our energies to achieve those objectives.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

And can you quantify what the non-renewals for run on an annual basis in terms of revenues?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Yes, so each of those facilities is about the, is coincidentally about 1,800 beds and they're all 30 to 35 million in revenue.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Okay. Thank you for that. You said you sold one facility, I think, early this year. In the third quarter call, you mentioned that you were in the process of identifying potential sales. Where are you guys in that process? Are you still thinking that $100 million in total sales over time is still a good number, or do you think you – you might have identified some more facilities, and any color detail there would be appreciated.

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, the number that we're targeting right now is right around 100 million. I think we still think that that's a good number, and that's probably a 24-month or so, 12 to 24-month horizon to get that accomplished.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Okay. And I know, you know, a lot of the, especially on the ice side, the facilities have minimum contract guarantees. And we all know that the ice populations have declined dramatically here in the COVID world. Is there any way to kind of quantify, you know, how much those populations on a maybe, you know, on a percentage basis need to rise? before you would be above the minimum guarantee level?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

We're significantly below the minimum guarantee level presently because of COVID and the closure of the southern border. But, you know, the formula for What we can expect in the future is an interplay between new administration governmental policies, the eventual opening of the southern border, and the eventual passing of the COVID pandemic. The interplay between those three things will result in the new normalized norm, which, you may not occur until by the end of the year. So I think of ourselves right now in a transition period as those three things play out over the course of the year.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Okay, and just one more for me and I'll get back in queue. George, I was wondering if, you know, you might kind of give us a little bit of a some more detail on kind of the state of the union. You know, I was reading an article in the Washington Post where they were mentioning how a recent study identified that at least at the U.S. Marshal Service, the private providers were doing a much better job in terms of COVID and testing and tracking and all of the other types of measure than the the facilities being run by the public, which would, you know, at least some minor way say, hey, the private guys actually are doing a good job. So I just wanted you to kind of give us a little bit more of a State of the Union address, where you see, you know, some of this all going here. I know it's early days and it's difficult with the new administration, but Any more insight or clarity, you know, state budgets and how that might be impacting, you see that impacting the business, ICE, you know, you touched a little bit about ICE and the marshals and the BOP, but any other additional insight or color would be appreciated.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Well, you've brought up many different subjects. Let me try to think through that. sequentially, how I could address them. First of all, the proposed COVID relief bill we think would bring considerable additional financial resources to the states. The $350 billion that's being proposed to be distributed to the states would be a very large financial boost for all the states. particularly the ones in the Sunbelt states. Of the Washington Post article, you know, which I did have a chance to review, is, you know, we think fairly representative that the private sector has done a good job in dealing with the COVID situation. And why would that be? We think it is because the private sector is has the flexibility to respond more quickly to issues of operational concern like COVID. In our case, in GEO, we were able to begin testing our employees and our detainees very quickly. We got the 45% rapid test machines into our facilities. We purchased masks and other protective equipment very quickly. In some of our facilities, we've put in a new bipolar ionization system to purify the air in the facilities. Remember, all of our facilities are air conditioned to begin with, and the population levels within our ICE facilities in particular, are probably less than 40% of their design occupancy. So there's plenty of room for social distancing, and we've gone to, we think, fairly lengthy measures beyond what our normal governmental counterparts have done to mitigate the risks of COVID spread within our facilities. It's interesting that, you know, within ICE, of the 65,000 people we serve for the year, we only had one fatality, which, you know, unfortunate as any fatality would be, we still think it's a pretty good, you know, reflection on the quality of services we provided in our ICE facilities and the mitigation that took place by not only the ICE and CDC directives regarding social distancing, but our own individual initiative efforts, which were not required by contract per se, but we did them on our own in buying PPE equipment, rapid COVID testing equipment, and these new systems for bipolar ionization of the air systems.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Great. Thanks for that, George. Much appreciated.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Our next question will come from Mitro Remco Pau with Sidoti. Please go ahead.

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Mitro Remco Pau
Analyst, Sidoti

Yes. Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I just want to start with the impact of COVID for us. And again, I know there are a lot of moving parts here, but if you can maybe give us a big picture sense in terms of the impact it had on the business in 2020 and And I know you indicated you expect it to normalize by year end 21, but how cautious are you in terms of the recovery as it relates to the guidance?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

You know, it's my impression that the COVID impact has been 15 to 20% reduction in our financial profitability. It could have been much worse if it weren't for some of these guarantees. And let me speak to the reason for the guarantees. When we operate a facility, we're required by contract to have a certain number of employees staffed, regardless of the actual occupancy on a day-to-day basis. And that's because it takes so long through the clearance process to bring any new employee on board It's a matter of several weeks, if not months. So you can't just scale up and scale down very quickly in any of our federal facilities. They need to be rather orderly, you know, normalized as far as the staffing levels, and that requires the payment of the labor costs, which are the, you know, 70% of the overall costs at any facility. And, of course, you have the cost of the building, you know, whether you use all the building or just part of the building, the cost of the building is the same. So that's why guarantees are in place.

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Mitro Remco Pau
Analyst, Sidoti

Okay, no, that's good. And as it relates to vaccinations and hopefully using that to get occupancy levels back up, if you can give us an update in terms of where you stand in terms of your facilities and receiving vaccines and being able to do it.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

In our federal facilities, we're kind of waiting in line as to when there'll be a broader distribution of vaccines. But I know in some of our state facilities that, you know, they're able to move more quickly on that, I'll ask.

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Blake Davis
President of GeoSecure Services

Yeah, we have contacted every local state and county health board and health department to get into the queue for vaccinations at every one of our facilities nationwide. A number of states are distributing at a higher rate. Look, for example, New Mexico, Indiana. And so we are getting our folks vaccinated in those states. But I can tell you, in every one of our locations, we have built relationships with the local health department. We're in the queue for distribution and we will be prioritized in that distribution as vaccines become available. So again, we're just very, very anxious to be able to try to get everyone vaccinated. We're patiently waiting like most of the country is right now as our names come up.

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Mitro Remco Pau
Analyst, Sidoti

Okay, thanks. And as it relates to ICE, I've been reading recently there's been sort of an uptick in border crossings and not quite sure how the administration is dealing with it, but initially it looks like they are keeping a number of individuals here as opposed to releasing them immediately as we saw in the past administration. I was just wondering any thoughts on that, if you potentially see that as maybe a tailwind going forward with the new administration.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Well, we know ICE is they're doing a lot of planning. But I think the situation is fair to say is fluid. And between the ice storm and COVID, you know, there's a lot of things that have to be factored into their planning. And I think they're mindful that there's tens of thousands of people on waiting in Mexico at our southern border, and I think they'd like to bring some of them in in an orderly fashion, but that needs to be planned out, and I think that's what they're focusing on at this time.

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Mitro Remco Pau
Analyst, Sidoti

Okay, thanks. And then to switch into community-based youth services, the occupancy certainly declined pretty meaningfully this past year. due to the environment. And I was just wondering if you see this basically at the bottom. Sounds like you have quite a few initiatives going forward in terms of activating some new facilities and seems like you might have a good pipeline there in terms of bringing on new business.

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Ann Schlard
President of GeoCare

So this is Anne. The new business that I spoke of was our reentry residential center. So, yes, we do see that beginning to build back slowly with COVID. And direct to your question about the youth facilities, COVID had quite an impact on the census reduction. And in most cases across the country, the courts stopped intakes, referrals were stopped. So we were really at a standstill. And then just to ensure social distancing, to make sure all the CDC guidelines and protocols were in place, the census came down significantly. We are beginning to see a bit of a build as we see the positive cases decline quite dramatically on the youth side of the division.

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Mitro Remco Pau
Analyst, Sidoti

Okay. Thanks again for taking the questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

The next question will come from Kurt Lutke with Imperial Capital. Please go ahead. Good morning.

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Kurt Lutke
Analyst, Imperial Capital

Good morning. A couple topics. One, your fiscal 21 guidance, and then the other, your dividend policy. I can only imagine how difficult forecasting must be for you, but I'm curious. You mentioned there are four facilities ramping during the course of 21 and contributing to the 21 guidance. Could you, if we're thinking about this in terms of a bridge, could you quantify how much incremental EBITDA those four facilities are contributing?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

No, I mean, we don't historically give EBITDA guidance by facility. I think we've indicated the revenue impact from the facilities that are expected to go away i don't have the exact revenue impact of the facilities that are coming online but we typically provide that guidance as well as i said the bop facilities that are expected to roll off this year there's about 100 million in revenue between the three of them but all of that revenue won't impact this year some of the revenue The whole impact is the facilities that have already been announced for termination, plus these others that we expect to terminate offset by the facilities that are coming online, which are mainly the facilities in California and the U.S. Marshals facility in Texas.

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Kurt Lutke
Analyst, Imperial Capital

Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. And with respect to pricing, you know, another, I'm sure... difficult thing to model right now, but you mentioned there are a number of facilities where the occupancy rates are low. How did you think about pricing and contract minimums on the new contracts that are renewed this year?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Well, most of our contracts that when they renew, so we're talking about contracts that are within the full contract term when they renew, those pricing mechanisms are already set. On our federal contracts, the step-ups in price are built into the contract. And on our state contracts, we may go through an appropriations process to get an incremental increase for an adjustment in inflation. But the other terms of the contract do not change. Those are already established when we enter into the initial base period of the contract.

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Kurt Lutke
Analyst, Imperial Capital

Oh, interesting. Okay, thank you. And then with respect to your dividend policy, will you continue to flex the dividends with profitability, or is there a dollar payout that you want to maintain? Is there a floor on the dividends?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Well, we have to maintain a certain amount of dividend to maintain our REIT status. You know, and As far as increasing the dividend, we will evaluate whether we're gonna increase or decrease or change the dividend or hold it steady on a quarterly basis, I think, based on the guidance that we've already established, looking at our capital requirements, the cash flows, and trying to also maintain a debt reduction of 75 to 100 million a year.

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Kurt Lutke
Analyst, Imperial Capital

Okay. And then lastly, have there been any developments that the board did not anticipate the last time you considered your REIT status?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

You say when we considered the REIT status when we converted to our REIT?

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Kurt Lutke
Analyst, Imperial Capital

Well, I think last call you talked about that the board has evaluated the REIT status and decided to remain a REIT. Has anything happened since that last decision point? that was a surprise that might prompt a reconsideration of the, or has everything that's happened in the last couple months, was that already largely anticipated?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Well, I think, you know, the dividend policy, like we said, will be re-evaluated. As George said, it's a little bit of a transitional period. I think there were three items he mentioned, you know, policy of the new administration, how the pandemic impacts wanes or adjusts during the year, and then the impact of occupancies on our facilities due to border policy?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

I would acknowledge that the new executive borders had an impact. That's the newest thing that's occurred, and we have factored that into our budget for this upcoming year.

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Kurt Lutke
Analyst, Imperial Capital

Okay, great.

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Operator
Conference Operator

I appreciate it. Thank you. The next question will come from Jordan Sherman with Ranger Global. Please go ahead.

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Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

Thanks. Just want to clarify one point on the BOP situation and then – or actually two points and then the bigger picture question. The three facilities that you expect to roll off this year, you have not received notice yet of those. When would you expect to get specific notice about those? or have you received specific notice?

speaker
Blake Davis
President of GeoSecure Services

Like when is it required? Typically, we would receive notice about 60 days prior to that option period if they were going to provide us notice.

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Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

Okay. And then beyond the three that have been already canceled, the three that would roll off, how many additional BOP facilities are there, and what would be the timing of that contract expiry?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Well, there's three other contracts. One that is an owned facility, similar in size to the other ones we've discussed, 1,800 beds, about $35 million in revenue. That contract, the next renewal point would be September of 2022. North Lake? Huh? North Lake. And then there's two other facilities that are... We're a unique managed-only facility where we provide senior-level management services. We don't own the real estate. And combined between the two, there are only about $5 million to $7 million in revenue per year. Both of those have renewal dates that are also in 2022.

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Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

Would you expect those to be part of this process as well?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

They could be.

speaker
Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

but not clear yet. It's not clear. Okay. Just from a policy standpoint, as you think about, you know, there's a lot of commentary about, you know, the push from the progressive side, and clearly you have this memo about the, you know, the DOJ not renewing, you know, seeking to renew private prison contracts. But I guess as you think about the implementation of that and maybe any roll-through for the rest of the administration policies, how much comfort or not do you get from, you know, the people who are directly sort of overseeing the, you know, the sort of key areas like Alejandro Mayorkas at the DHS and I guess Merrick Garland over the DOJ? And, of course, you know, you've got Biden. All of them seem to be moderate with very practical experience. So I'm wondering, you know, how you think about how, you know, this is a bigger picture. And I guess, you know, with Susan Rice at the head of domestic policy as well, you know, domestic policy counsel, all are practical with, you know, with practical experience, moderates, moderates. So I'm just wondering how you think, you know, from a policy standpoint about that.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

I do agree that we consider all three moderates, but we acknowledge that there is a different philosophy that will be – affected by the three things I was talking about, and that is the technical issues of changing immigration, historical immigration policies, the technical issues that are involved with that, and legal issues. The COVID situation, and whether it continues or abates, and the eventual opening of the border. So even if you want to have a fundamental change, you still have to face those headwinds in how to implement your new policies.

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Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

Right. Okay. And then I guess just the other, you know, on that, you know, a lot of moving parts when you think about the whole ICE detention levels. You know, border is closed now, although, as mentioned earlier, the Southwest encounters are up dramatically. Court systems have slowed or shut down. They're moving to, you know, a system with more catch and release and not trying to detain, you know, as many people. Well, at least that's the goal yet. We haven't seen how that will work out. And, you know, changes possibly in interior enforcement. alternatives to detention. As you think about the timeline for these changes, I guess I focused in on the budget for ICE as one data point. What else will you be looking for specifically, I guess, as the potential opening up of the border? What are the timeline of some of these things as you think about them for when you think you'll see additional information?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

I originally thought things would happen more quickly, but now I'm at the view that I think it's going to take the full year for things to fall into place and to normalize. So I think the time horizon is for normalization is probably towards the end of the year.

speaker
Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

But no specific deadline, you know, other than the budget's discussion, which has its own, there's no specific deadline data points that you can point to that you know at the moment.

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Not that I'm aware of. And when you have, you know, a freak snowstorm hit the United States and loss of power involving millions of people, you know, it throws a wrench into any kind of operational reformatting of prior policies.

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Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

Understood, yeah. Okay, and then just, can you talk about the, you have some debt coming due over the next few years, including, I guess, a couple hundred million next year, 300 million in 23, and then, of course, the bigger things coming due in 2024. Can you talk about how your plans and your thoughts about how to address those?

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Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Well, obviously, firstly, we'll address the 2022s. We'll look at the capital markets and try to get something done there. We also have our revolving credit facility has approximately $250 million in capacity that we can apply towards pay down of unsecured debt. So that's a backstop. And then, as we mentioned, also we want to pay down about $75 to $100 million through free cash flow or use of our own cash flow. So I think those are the – three things that we'll be working together to try and take out the next two instruments, the 22s and the 23s. And then as we see that occur, I think we'll have improved access to the market to take out the other instruments.

speaker
Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

And the timing of addressing the 22s, when do you start that process?

speaker
Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

First half of this year.

speaker
Jordan Sherman
Analyst, Ranger Global

With the announcement of the details as that comes together?

speaker
Brian Evans
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I mean, whatever we do, yeah, there'll be some sort of announcement when we do something, absolutely. Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

The next question will come from Nick Jermozak with Stifel. Please go ahead.

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Nick Jermozak
Analyst, Stifel

Hi, thanks for taking the questions. On the ICE contracts, I know some questions have been asked already, but I'm going to try a different approach. In a world where there's going to be limited arrests and deportations, can you help us think about how your ICE facilities fit into an administration that is going to be having such a materially different arrest and deportation policy?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Well, We've been providing these services for more than three decades, and the locations of the facilities were generally specified by ICE over the course of the last three decades. And they are among the newest facilities in the country. They're all air-conditioned. They're all accredited by the American Correctional Association from a design standpoint. And we've incorporated favorable amenities in the facilities like flat screen TVs and artificial turf soccer fields and, you know, additional program spaces inside the facility as well as, you know, outside the facility. And as has been mentioned, these facilities have typically doubled the healthcare staff that you would find in any correctional facility. So the healthcare departments are fairly elaborate and have a capacity that is unmatched generally by correctional facilities of comparable size, as they should be, because these are not correctional facilities. There are civil detention facilities, and we agree that they need to look and be operated differently with different rules that, you know, come from ICE. And we think we've achieved the objectives of ICE over the years in restyling how these facilities look and how they operate and the amenities available for the residents. And we are flexible to further changes as there's new thinking on what these facilities should look like or how they should operate. We remain flexible. We're just a government services provider that provides the services that are specified in a solicitation. We do what we're asked to do, and we go beyond that.

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Nick Jermozak
Analyst, Stifel

So then it returns to the question of I agree that the facilities check off a lot of boxes in terms of improving anyone who comes over the border, their immediate quality of life is better than being outside of the elements. However, from the government services perspective, if the government is no longer arresting and deporting, are your services still needed?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Well, I don't think they'll completely stop arresting and deporting. There could be a change in the volume that you speak of, but that will have to be repriced if if it comes to pass or if it's necessary. But if you have a building that can hold a certain amount of people and it holds slightly less, that will require slightly less staff and slightly less cost. So, you know, we have the flexibility to reprice according to the government's needs. But they have been thoughtful in prior years that there are fluctuations in the population that are seasonal. And the summer months are the most active months. The winter and fourth quarter are the lowest active months. And so you go through these fluctuations and it's difficult to adjust those fluctuations on a staffing basis because it takes so long to recruit and retain staff that are background screened. So the staffing has generally stayed fairly stable, but if there's a step down in the staffing for long-term objectives in lower capacity, under the Trump administration, the capacity or the number of residents in ICE facilities rose to 50,000 as compared to at the end of the Obama administration, it was 35,000. Today, it's 16,000 primarily because of COVID. So where it goes from where it is today, you know, I'm not sure anybody knows because of so many factors that come into play. But we have been good partners with ICE for three decades, and we hope that relationship will continue in the future.

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Nick Jermozak
Analyst, Stifel

So given the fact that nobody really knows what's happening with ICE, I wanted to address the REIT versus C-Corp and the distribution. Leverage, from my perspective, is high. And given that there's lack of clarity in the overall outlook for the business, How do you justify still paying out over $100 million of distribution to shareholders rather than focusing on the balance sheet?

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George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

Well, I would think that some of the shareholders have bought into the company's stock because of the dividend. But we've been trying to balance the interests of both the bondholders and the shareholders. And we've reduced the dividend by almost 50% in the last year. So we think we're looking out for both interests as we move forward and paying down debt while reducing our dividend. And as Brian said, we look at this on a quarter-by-quarter basis.

speaker
Nick Jermozak
Analyst, Stifel

All right. Go ahead.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

Our time for the question and answer session has concluded at this time. I would like to turn the conference back over to George Soley for any closing remarks. Please go ahead, sir.

speaker
George Zoli
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and Founder

We thank you for your participation in today's call and your questions and look forward to addressing you in the future. Thank you.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

The conference call has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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