GFL Environmental Inc.

Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call

7/28/2022

spk00: Good morning. My name is Victoria, and I will be your conference operator this morning. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would like to welcome everyone to GFL Environmental Inc.' 's results call for the second quarter of 2022. I will now turn the call over to Patrick Davigi, the CEO of GFL. Please go ahead, Mr. Davigi.
spk04: Thank you, and good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to today's call, and thank you for joining us. This morning, we will be reviewing our results for the second quarter and updating our guidance for this year. I am joined this morning by Luke Pelosi, our CFO, who will take us to the forward-looking disclaimer before we get into the details.
spk07: Thank you, Patrick. Good morning, everyone. We have filed our earnings press release, which includes important information. This press release is available on our website. During this call, we'll be making some forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable Canadian and U.S. securities laws. including statements regarding events or developments that we believe or anticipate may occur in the future. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those set out in our filings with the Canadian and US securities regulators. Any forward-looking statement is not a guarantee of future performance, and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements speak only as of today's date, and we do not assume any obligation to update these statements whether as a result of new information, future events and developments, or otherwise. This call will include a discussion of certain non-IFRS measures. A reconciliation of these non-IFRS measures can be found in our filings with the Canadian and U.S. securities regulators. I will now turn the call back over to Patrick.
spk04: Thank you, Luke. Our strong start to the year accelerated into the second quarter, once again driving industry-leading results. The strength of our business model, the quality of our market selection, and the capability of our team were all demonstrated again this quarter, even in the face of many unprecedented headwinds. Organic revenue growth for the quarter was over 13%. That's the second quarter in a row with double-digit growth in both our solid waste and environmental services segments. The 6.4% solid waste price in the first quarter accelerated to 7.3% in the second quarter as we continue to flex our pricing strategies in response to the record-breaking cost inflation environment. We also recognize 1.9% solid waste revenue growth from our surcharges, as our efforts in this area have begun to drive meaningful contribution. We've said before that we see a lot of opportunity to increase the dollars we recover from surcharges, and we're confident in our ability to continue to optimize the book of business using this lever. With a substantial price up performance in the first half of the year, we expect to significantly exceed the high end of our revenue guidance for the year, and Luke will speak to our revised guidance. It's important to remember that this year's price is being achieved even with the delayed impact of the meaningful price increases in our CPI-linked book of business. The recovery of our current cost inflation from those contracts will be realized for the most part only in 2023 and 2024. We believe this creates a highly compelling backdrop for our financial performance in 2023 and beyond. Volume growth was 2.8% in Q2, excluding one-time MRF volumes from the prior year that we knew were non-recurring. Volume growth in the second quarter of 2021, excluding MRF volumes, was 5.1%. making this quarter's performance more impressive when considering the tough comparison. As we expected, volumes in our Canadian business saw the benefit from the continued reopening activities. Our environmental services segment realized over 20% organic growth in Q2, reflecting the continued re-engagement of our customer base that started in Q1. The increase was well ahead of expectations as it was driven by our strategic network, dedicated team, and overall expanded service capabilities from the integration of the TerraPure acquisitions. Higher price for our collected used motor oil that acts as a natural hedge against our rising energy prices also contributed to the revenue growth during the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 26.5% for the quarter, and we think that's a fantastic outcome considering the cost headwinds at play. We knew there would be margin pressure in the first half of the year resulting from labor and other cost increases we saw in the back half of 2021. We also knew that the ramping up of travel and other costs post-pandemic would put pressure on margins. but we had not anticipated the extent of the rise in fuel costs and how the labor shortages and supply chain disruptions would continue. This quarter saw all-time high unit rates for fuel and labor, but also the flow-through effect to more overtime hours and reliance on higher-cost third-party repairs and maintenance, higher in third-party transportation costs, and increased truck rental costs from delays in delivery of spare parts and new trucks. We responded to those unprecedented cost pressures with nearly 10% pricing and surcharges, the highest in our history. We also grew adjusted EBITDA by 34% over the comparable prior period. While the magnitude of this cost recovery drove margin compression in the quarter, the impacts are essentially all from fuel prices, which we see as temporary, and strongly believe that our performance in the quarter once again demonstrates the resilience of our business models. History suggests that the unit rate cost inflation will eventually moderate and higher costs driven by labor shortages and supply chain disruptions will eventually subside. Additionally, our ability to recover our energy costs will continue to improve. When that happens, we see significant opportunities for accelerated margin expansion through pricing and improved asset utilization. We also continue to execute on our M&A strategy, completing 28 acquisitions year to date. representing approximately $360 million of incremental annualized revenue. The acquisitions we completed in Q2, other than Sprint Waste, were all small tuck-ins that continue to densify our footprint. The M&A environment remains attractive and our pipeline is deep and continues to grow through accretive opportunities. On RNG, we now have five projects in active development, seven projects under negotiation, and we have issued an RFP for additional mine sites. We deploy approximately 30 million of capital into these projects in the first half of the year and expect to invest the same in the second half. We remain highly confident that we will see these projects begin to generate cash flow in 2023 and continue to ramp up through 2024 and beyond. As we said, when we first told you about the opportunity in December of 2021, we modeled our expected return on these investments at significant discounts to the prevailing RIN values. As a result, our quantification of the opportunity is still conservative and despite the recent softening in the RIN pricing. On ESG, we took delivery of our first fully electric side loader this month that we will use to service our residential contract in Squamish, British Columbia. As highlighted at our investor day in May, we'll deploy 30 to 40 electric vehicles by 2025 to service the recently awarded City of Gainesville contract. These vehicle deployments are part of the plan to increase our annual fleet replacements with CNG or electric vehicles with an overall short-term goal of 50 plus percent conversion. We are also on track to issue our full set of sustainability related goals in Q4 of this year. This will include our goals to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from our fleet and our landfills and to increase the resource recovery services we offer to our customers. I will now pass the call back over to Luke, who will walk us through the details of the financial results, and then I'll share some closing perspectives before we wrap up.
spk07: Thanks, Patrick. Before I start, I once again want to remind everyone that we've excluded the contribution of the now-divested GFL infrastructure division from our results and all period-over-period comparisons that I reference on a like-for-like basis, unless I say otherwise. Solar waste organic revenue growth accelerated nearly 210 basis points from Q1 to 12.4% in Q2. driven by 7.3% price, 1.9% surcharges, 0.8% from commodity prices, and 2.4% from volume, or 2.8% volume when excluding the non-recurring MRF volumes from the prior period. While volume was broadly in line with our original guide, price and surcharges significantly exceeded our base guide as we revisited our pricing strategies in order to recover the unprecedented levels of fuel prices and cost inflation in the business. You will note that we broke out surcharges for the first time this quarter in our reporting, now that we have a substantial amount of recovery happening each month. Previously, the relatively immaterial amount of fuel costs recovered were being presented in price and volume. Going forward, we'll be disclosing the amount separately as we've done this quarter. Variable fuel surcharges recovered just under 50% of the direct fuel price increases we saw this quarter. As mentioned, The industry has demonstrated what an effective fuel cost recovery program looks like, and we see a clear path over the near term to harmonize our practices with industry norms. To mitigate our current fuel and other cost recovery gap, we can pursue incremental open market pricing and realize 7.3% price in the quarter, a 90 basis point sequential increase over Q1, and approximately 175 basis points better than our original plan. 2.8% volume growth was a continuation of the positive start that we saw in Q1, as were the strong post-collection volumes across most geographies. Volume growth was the strongest in Canada, as expected, and particularly in our environmental services segment, where we grew revenue over 20% organically on strong volume and higher used motor oil selling prices. The momentum we saw in this segment in the first quarter carried on into the second quarter, reinforcing our positive outlook for this segment for not only 2022, but also the years that follow. Contribution from M&A was 24%, also ahead of plan and largely the result of the outperformance of the TerraPure business. Adjusted EBITDA margins were 29.4% for solid waste, 28.2% for environmental services, and 26.5% for the company as a whole. As Patrick mentioned, the unexpected severity and duration of rising fuel prices, coupled with additional costs associated with labor shortages and supply chain disruptions, more than offset our pricing strategies and yielded margins 50 to 75 basis points lower than our original plan of low 27s, or 130 basis points lower than the prior year. Keep in mind, as Patrick noted, our pricing to date has been achieved largely in the open market and not in our CPI-linked book of business, which we expect to see the benefits of in 2023. Fuel price was the single biggest impact, increasing direct energy cost by nearly $45 million and reducing margin by over 250 basis points on a gross basis. Partially offsetting this decrease was just over $20 million from fuel surcharges and just over $10 million from the combined impact of higher selling prices for used motor oil and the benefit of financial fuel hedges, resulting in a net margin impact of approximately 100 basis points from direct fuel alone. Impacts of indirect fuel costs realized through higher third-party transportation costs further impacted margins. Labor-related costs also had a significant impact in the quarter. While the approximately 6% labor unit rate increase over the prior period was broadly in line with expectations, persisting tightness in labor markets drove overtime costs and reliance on third-party technicians for R&M higher than anticipated. Supply chain delays, which impacted spare part and new truck deliveries, also resulted in higher operating costs and higher third-party truck rental costs. We also saw increases in the rates charged by our third-party transportation suppliers, which is essentially an indirect impact from higher fuel and labor prices. We responded to this perfect storm of cost headwind through incremental price and surcharges. Until we ramp up our fuel surcharge programs, we need to use a portion of our core pricing to fill the fuel recovery shortfall, limiting the pricing available to cover the multitude of other atypical cost increases we're currently facing. While this strategy has allowed us to recover the majority of our EBITDA dollars, there is margin pressure from the past due nature of the cost recovery, as we saw this quarter and we now expect for the year as a whole. However, we view the current cost inflation dynamic as temporary. While annual unit rate increases may not go back to previous lows, we expect them to moderate from current levels, and the labor market and supply chain-related costs will likely subside. This anticipated cost inflation relief, together with our continued focus and discipline on our pricing strategies, sets us up to continue with our organic margin expansion goals as we move into 2023. Adjusted pre-cash flow was $102 million compared to $162 million in the prior year period. The current period included nearly $150 million of CapEx, included a $20 million CapEx for investment in R&G joint ventures, compared to a net $75 million of CapEx in the comparable period, which included the benefit of $65 million proceeds in asset sales. While we're treating our capital contributions to the R&G projects as a CapEx-like item in free cash flow, we have separately broken them out so that results can be compared on a like-for-like basis. Also, as we said on our last call, The $224 million in cash proceeds received from the spinoff of our infrastructure business have been reinvested into M&A and are therefore not included within adjusted free cash flow as an offset to CapEx. In addition to the incremental CapEx realized in the current quarter, the current period included an $85 million investment in networking capital, substantially all of which was tied to the revenue growth within the period and should normalize by year end. The prior year comparable period included a $4 million adjusted investment in networking capital. The variability in adjusted free cash flow that can result from CapEx timing and working capital movements are why we do not guide to a free cash flow number on a quarterly basis, but rather focus on a target for the year as a whole. In terms of M&A, year-to-date we've deployed approximately $965 million to acquire approximately $365 million in annualized revenues. The 2022 in-year revenue contribution of which is estimated to be about $215 million net of divestitures. Net leverage at quarter end was high fours in line with what we had communicated on the last call. We still expect to de-lever by the end of the year, although at a more tempered basis on the account of M&A and the cost inflation headwinds we're seeing. In terms of our outlook, we are increasing our guidance for fiscal 2022 for the second time this year. At the high end of the ranges, revenue is expected to be $6.475 billion, adjusted EBIT is expected to be $1.73 billion, and adjusted free cash flow is expected to be $680 million. At the revenue line, the increased revenue and guidance includes $215 million from net new M&A, $55 million from FX rates, $100 million outperformance for our environmental services segments in 2021 rollover M&A and $180 million from incremental price increases and surcharges. This represents a 550 million or nearly 1,000 basis point increase over our original guidance. Offsetting these increases are approximately 220 million of incremental costs, roughly 50% of which is direct fuel pricing. And that's really the summary. Fuel and other cost increases are increasing $220 million. We'll recover the majority of the dollars, but in doing so, we'll see temporary margin pressure. We're using this period to accelerate our pricing and surcharge strategies, which we strongly believe will position us for accelerated margin expansion once the broad-based cost inflation subsides. In terms of adjusted free cash flow, included in the guidance is now $400 million of cash interest, which is a $60 million increase over our original guidance. $40 million of which is attributable to higher interest rates on our floating rate debt. The fact that we're able to raise our guidance despite the unprecedented pace of interest rate increases is a testament to the opportunity for free cash flow operating leverage in our business. Including the adjusted free cash flow reconciliation is approximately $650 million of net CapEx, which is inclusive of our anticipated investments in R&G joint ventures and proceeds on dispositions, as well as the normalizing timing difference adjustment carried forward from 2021. As always, the current guidance assumes no further M&A in the current year, and any contributions from transactions that are completed will be incremental to what we've laid out currently. With that, I will turn the call back over to Patrick.
spk04: Thanks, Luke. When we went public in March of 2020, none of us knew that we were at the start of an unprecedented personal and economic disruptions brought on by the global pandemic. In hindsight, that period represented the first great data point for us to demonstrate the capabilities of our business to respond to those disruptions and the resilience of our growth profile. To me, the current environment is no different. We hope this represents the final exit from the pandemic and this quarter's results demonstrate that our business continues to flex and respond to the challenges we face, as we always have. Consistent with historical trends, the current noise around temporary margin impacts will fade. I have every confidence that we will emerge from these challenging times even stronger and further demonstrate the quality and resilience of our business and the commitment of our amazing employees that come to work every day and find ways to make our business even better. As we continue to pull all levers that we have at our disposal to drive the growth of this great business that we've built together, I have never been more optimistic about our future. I will now turn the call over to the operator to open the line for Q&A.
spk00: Thank you. We will now start our Q&A session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you'd like to withdraw your question, please press star 2. When asking your question, please ensure that your line is unmuted locally. And our first question comes from Walter Sparklin at RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk03: Hello, Walter, maybe you're muted.
spk00: Hello, Walter.
spk03: Can you hear me?
spk00: Oh.
spk03: Hey, this is Lewis on for Walter. Okay, so our question is... Hi, Lewis. Hi, Patrick. A question on your pace for acquisitions. So at your investor day, you indicated a starting point for 2022 leverage of 4.5 times and then showed it would come down to around 3.2 by 2025. Your leverage ticked up to just under five turns at the end of this quarter. So given the pace of acquisitions in your pipeline for the year, do you expect your starting point at the end of this year to be above five times or do you see leverage ending the year closer to four and a half times as you were contemplating at the investor day?
spk07: Hey, Lewis, this is Luke Pelosi responding. Thanks for the question. So the investor day, you know, we laid out multiple scenarios of what it could look like depending on varying levels of M&A. If you think about how our leverage cadence goes through the year, Q2 is the natural peak just because of the way run rate adjustments roll off. And so even at the time when we did that investor presentation, it was expected that the Q2 number would peak in the high fours as it's done. Ultimately, where we end the end of the year, we'll be considering how much more M&A happens in the back hat, performance of the business, and FX. So the bridge we had given there was contemplating the original guide. As you see in this guide now, we're talking about incremental $130, $140 million of fuel costs that we're contending with. So I think you've heard our commitment to delevering. You've seen the math demonstrating the business's capabilities to delever. I think with the pace of continued M&A in the current environment, the pace might be a little bit slower. I think directionally what you're going to see is that continued trajectory and then the power to be leveraging, accelerating as the business moves forward through 2023 and beyond.
spk04: For the short answer, there's no path that we're going to be levered in the fives. So I think it steps down from here. I mean, I think that was your question. This is the peak, and it'll step down from here. Obviously, that'll move a little bit depending on what M&A is, but the M&A contribution doesn't move leverage that much at this point, given the relative contribution size of the M&A we're contemplating.
spk03: Makes sense. Thanks, guys.
spk00: Thank you for your question, Lewis. Our next question comes from Michael Hoffman at Skiffle. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hey, Patrick, Luke. I got a couple. First one on price. I think it's really important to draw out the power of what the forward price could look like, and I'm not asking for guidance. But you're running at a seven in this quarter. I just presume you're going to be somewhere between six and a half, seven through the second half of the year. So you're starting next year six and a half, seven is the way to think about it. And that's clearly enough. And an internal cost of inflation is going to be down. I mean, even if it's only down marginally, it's still down. So it's creating operating leverage. I mean, can we can you frame the power of that for everybody so they just appreciate it's not in models right now? And again, you're not guiding for 23, but nobody is factored in where this price is going.
spk07: Yeah, Michael, it's Luke speaking. I think that's exactly right. You're at an above-seven level today. The back half of the year is going to be strong, and I think the numbers you cited are directionally correct where things are going to end up. And really what you're seeing is that recovering the cost inflation today, right, because of these peaks we've had. But that does moderate. And as you move into 2023, if you retain that level of price alone – compared to more moderate sort of comps on the cost side, there's meaningful expansion opportunity there. Additionally, what you're doing today is before the CPI-related book of business really receives its full price increase, which is really going to happen in 2023 and into 2024. So if you're achieving 7% number today with your CPI link still in the sort of low single digits, better than historical but still not where it needs to be, You think about what could happen as that starts ramping up to sort of five, six or better. You know, there's a meaningful price tailwind as well. So I think you're thinking about exactly right and are accurate that the current forward forecast don't contemplate the power of that price.
spk05: Okay. And then just to follow through, you know, in your revised guidance, there's $40 million of real costs because of inflation on fuel. You've offset all the other costs for price. Will you be at a run rate of covering that $40 million by the close of the year so that going into 2023, if the fuel stays flat, you'll make that up through the surcharge?
spk07: Yeah, so two things in there, Michael. First of all, the $40 million hole I just want to articulate and highlight is our direct fuel costs alone. As you're aware, a bunch of our third-party costs increases that we're seeing are actually indirect fuel so if you were to contemplate that as well our fuel related gap is greater than 40 so just wanted to sort of clarify that but to your point look greg and mark and the team you know actively at work in getting the fuel surcharge programs to where they're supposed to be and i think the results in the in the quarter are phenomenal right if you look at the rate of change and how quickly they're ramping that we said it was going to take originally 18 months to get that fully baked. I think there's a path to doing that faster than that, and the guys are aware of the urgency. What we also have in addition is excess open market pricing that's helping to cover that sort of fuel gap. So while we're going to need the second half of the year to play out before we can actually articulate what 2023 will look like exactly, I think there's a real path that by that point, when we're talking about 2023, we have all that covered and then some and therefore have the opportunity for returning to our margin expansion path from price and excess of costs.
spk05: Okay. And I'm not trying to belabor this. I just want to make sure I and everyone else hears clearly. You shared with us 220 of headwinds. 180 is offset with price. If I break the 220, 130 is direct fuel, 90 of surcharge. So there's the 40. Then there's 90 of other, which includes the third party and everything else. And it's offset by 90. So you're making up the indirects already. It's the direct I've got to catch up on. Correct. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure that everybody else understands you've covered through open market pricing everything else that's related to inflation except direct fuel costs at this point. Okay.
spk07: Yeah, Michael, I think it's important to contextualize that it's not just the unit rate inflation, right? Like the actual unit rate inflation today is... being more than covered. It's all of these ancillary costs as well that you're feeling from the labor shortage and the supply chain disruptions. Those on top of this peak unit rate inflation together are what's creating incremental costs, Edwin. I think that's an important piece because we strongly believe those subside.
spk04: Yeah, and Michael, also, don't forget, a lot of the pain we're wearing on the non-recovery on the fuel stuff is coming from the residential book of business, right? So... Again, as Luke said, the lion's share of those big increases we get come in 2023 and into early 2024. So, you know, it's going to all be recovered and more. And as those inflationary costs are going sort of horizontal instead of, you know, picking up, you know, there's going to be some meaningful margin expansion that come when you get those significant CPI adjustments on those REZI contracts, you know. So we're very confident in what that looks like in 2023 and 2024.
spk05: got it and that you made the comment i was going to ask you you are seeing all of these things peaking and starting to settle or trend slightly lower already so you're you're in a position to be able to now catch and exceed it as opposed to chase it yeah i'm not smart enough to call that this is the peak um or we peaked it certainly uh you know i think we thought q3 and q4 of 2021 where we
spk04: put through meaningful wage increases, et cetera. I think no one forecasted the supply chain disruptions that came from the war with Russia and the Ukraine and just what that did to a whole bunch of different parts of our business and then obviously what it did to fuel. But I think it's remarkable what the industry, forget GFL for a second, I mean what the industry's done and how fast the industry's reacted you know, is a testament to the industry and the discipline of the industry today. So, you know, this is a different business and industry than it was sort of 10 years ago. And I think everyone's sort of reacting in the way they were. And it's not like we're getting rich from it. We're just covering our costs, right? And, you know, again, given the ticket size for our customer, you know, this represents sub 1% of their sort of P&L as well. So, you know, generally to half a percent. So I think they understand what it is. And in this environment, they want to ensure that their waste is being picked up. And this is what we need to happen. So I think you look on the wage inflation side, yeah, that's upside. And now it's just about finding the right driver, putting them in the right seat. Obviously, steel prices, et cetera, are pretty volatile. Equipment, supply chain issues, you know, continue to slowly resolve themselves. You know, any major bumps we were going to get from our third-party providers, whether that's long-haul trucking out of our transfers, et cetera, you know, we've, again, worn that on the chin the first half of this year. So, again, all of those are, you know, starting to go sideways, not continuing to escalate upward. So all of those point to very good signs for what, you know, 2023 and 2024 look like.
spk05: Okay, last one for me. On the leverage, based on what December 31, 2021 leverage was, will your leverage on December 31, 2022 be less, regardless of what the number is? It's just it will be less than the year-end 21? Yes. Okay. That's what I needed. Thanks. Thanks, Michael.
spk00: Thank you for your question, Michael. Our next question comes from Kevin Chang at CIBC. Please go ahead.
spk08: Good morning, everybody. Maybe if I just ask the question that Michael was kind of going through with some of the math. You know, if we see a little bit of You know, deflation, hopefully inflation is peaking now. When you think of, you know, some of the catch-up on CPI pricing, you know, core pricing is obviously good. You have a surcharge program. And then maybe R&D kicks in a little bit next year, which should be margin accretive. If I kind of roll back six months, I think, you know, before inflation really peaked here, you know, we thought about this year maybe being about a 28% margin business as the divestitures that you made. Do you think you get close to that in 2023? I know there's still a lot of uncertainty with where the economy is, but let's say things kind of broadly play out the way we hope. Is that kind of step up possible from what you're guiding to in 2022 from a margin perspective?
spk07: Yeah, Kevin, it's Luke. I don't want to get into the 2023 guide, but the short answer is yes. I mean, I think it's important to step back and contextualize what the business has done. We're in public. Now, 2019, it was a mid-24s margin business. We're still talking about this year, despite this unprecedented inflation being sort of mid-26s. You know, it's 200 basis point increase over this very uncertain sort of time. Now, a portion of that is the mix and the result of our sort of portfolio rationalization program. So, sure, if you take that out. But then if we just look at solid individually, I mean, solid in 2019 was a mid-28s margin business. It's now going to go to, you know, this year, I think we're saying that the guide here is sort of low 30s, mid-30s. Another 200 basis point increase in there. So I highlight that because I think our strategies are working, our pricing is working, and our opportunity for outsized margin expansion as a combination of price plus improved asset utilization and just our sort of self-help is clearly there. What we have this year is solely a fuel-related temporary impact. So I don't think it derails our longer-term plans. I think it's a temporary impact. that for all the reasons we were saying about improving the surcharge recovery in addition to CPI catching up, you have a path to get back onto that track. So I'm not going to sit today and say exactly what 2023 looks like, but I don't think anything has changed in our long-term outlook. And in that fact, I think emerging from this period, our opportunity for annual margin expansion will be even greater than it was before. because of how this has accelerated some of the programs that we were previously planning on undertaking.
spk08: That makes a ton of sense. Maybe just a second one for me. Just wondering, you know, has the way you looked at M&A changed at all, just given the current environment, you know, whether it's the impact of inflation on the businesses you're buying, how they've been pricing, maybe that's been a little bit more challenging in terms of their ability to cover costs and we do got to go out and get it. which may or may not be something you want to get into, you know, labor shortages. Just wondering, you know, as you sit here today, this is maybe how you looked at some of the pipeline six months ago or 12 months ago. Has that materially changed how you evaluate these companies?
spk04: I think from our perspective, it's been a question of where we actually acquire businesses, right, depending on, labor markets, et cetera, driver pool availability, et cetera, has been a big driver in sort of where we're looking at things. I think from an economic perspective, again, from our perspective, not much has changed. You know, I mean, some businesses have performed better, some have reacted quicker to PIs and getting in front of a bunch of these, you know, inflationary pressures, but, you know, I don't think it's really changed much. We'll see how a bunch of that flows through the company's P&Ls as we go through. But, I mean, again, the lion's share of what we've acquired this year, you know, outside of Sprint has been largely just tuck-ins that have densified our existing footprint where we can leverage our fixed cost base of facilities. So, yeah, not much has changed from that front. And, you know, the business units where we're operating continue to perform well. And I think that's going to provide a pretty good opportunity because as you look at some of these businesses that that want to exit, you know, because they're frustrated, you know, about some of these inflationary pressures they're experiencing, you know, potentially you're going to be buying that off of a lower base number than you maybe would have sort of a year or two ago. So, you know, I think by and large, we're still looking at things the same, but obviously I have significantly more data points today to use to evaluate these different businesses in the different regions, just given the experience we have of our existing business today.
spk08: Excellent. You know what, I'll leave it there. Congrats on the strong pricing print in the quarter.
spk04: Thanks, Kevin.
spk00: Thank you so much for your question, Kevin. Our next question comes from Tim James at TD Securities. Please go ahead.
spk06: Okay, thanks very much. Good morning. We've talked in detail here about the moving parts in cost inflation and how pricing is recovering, though not entirely yet. Could I oversimplify things for a minute and think about your EBITDA guidance? You're increasing your EBITDA guidance in dollar terms for the second time this year from the original amount. And that very simplistically suggests that all of the incremental costs are being recovered or there are other factors beyond price that are actually better than expected and therefore driving dollars of EBITDA guidance higher despite the drag of the negative impact of inflation relative to price recovery. Can you sort of help me understand that? What are these other factors that are coming through better than expected and allowing you to raise your dollars of EBITDA guidance despite this sort of drag of pricing versus inflation?
spk07: No, I hate them. It's Luke. I think it's exactly right. I mean, there's a lot of focus on the cost recovery because obviously that's front and center, but it is overshadowing, you know, part of the core strategy of just the improved asset utilization and bringing together and optimizing the businesses that we've sort of assembled over the past few years. And that is exactly happening. I mean, example... Like the TerraPure book of business and bringing that together with our existing environmental services business, I mean, that's gone exceedingly well. The opportunities, the efficiency, the rerouting, and then the cost working on the improving our now expanded network, you know, is ahead of expectations. And that's helping sort of drive margin in there. The same story goes throughout much of our U.S. sort of solid waste market and the pieces we brought together there. There's great instances of our thesis proving out exactly as anticipated by leveraging the existing infrastructure to drive improved asset utilization, and you're seeing that come through in the numbers. Unfortunately, with fuel escalating at the rate it does, the quantum of impact of that is overshadowing. But at the end of the day, if you look for the year as a whole, the new guidance we're putting out, Direct fuel costs alone are suggesting, you know, in our solid waste business, like a 100 basis point margin drive. If you factor in the indirect that comes through my third-party transport, et cetera, that's probably closer to 150 basis points. So I'm contemplating a 65 basis point decrease year over year in solid waste, 150 being driven by solids. That's actually speaking, 150 being driven by fuel, that's actually speaking to a lot of otherwise underlying margin expansion that's coming from, one, the core price covering the cost inflation, and two, the improved asset utilization that you're speaking to.
spk06: Okay, that's really helpful. My second question, kind of on the same theme a little bit, I'm just wondering, Luke, if you could update us from time to time. You kind of talk about long-term margin potential, EBITDA margin potential by segment. And I'm wondering if we should change the way we think about that at all today. The second quarter shows that looking at percentages can be misleading because they don't reflect your ability to offset higher costs with pricing initiatives, which actually keep dollars where you expect them to be, and dollars being the more important part here. But that obviously hurts the percentages. Should we think about the long-term percentage margin potential for each of these segments any differently because of just a shift up in the cost structure? Or is it not going to be significant enough long term to really change that opportunity on a percentage basis?
spk07: No, I think as I was responding to Kevin, I think we view this as a sort of temporary horizontal step in our otherwise upward trajectory of margins. Your comment about dollars is absolutely right. We think about that. We want the margin. Retaining the dollars is first and foremost, and then ensuring that you can drive the margin on top of that is secondary. If you think about, though, where we've taken the business and where we're going, I don't think anything has changed. We have a solid waste business and a footprint that we think is best in class, and we think we're going to drive that to a solid waste margin that's best in class. And, you know, while this year may be a sort of slower step in that direction, nothing sort of changes. And you have to remember, we're achieving our results, excluding a lot of the high-margin accretive aspects of businesses that a lot of our peer groups sort of already have. When you think about perfect fuel surcharge recovery, when you think about R&G, You think about the C&G conversion and all the self-help we've spoken to. That's all accretive to our margin profile of where it is today. And we still intend on sort of realizing that and bringing that, you know, add to the margins that we previously suggested. Our environmental services segment, I mean, I think it's already significantly exceeding the industry group in terms of margin profile. And we see a lot more upside from there and taking that to sort of from the mid-20s to the high-20s as we've articulated. continues to be a plan that we're highly confident in our ability to achieve. And then you put those two together, what we left is you have that small little corporate cost bucket that you've got to remember. I mean, when we divested of infrastructure, $400 million or $500 million of revenue, not a lot came out of that corporate cost bucket because those costs were there to support everyone. So we're now pushing forward with growth that's going to help sort of further leverage that cost line as well, which will all add to incremental margins. So I would agree that focusing on the dollars is the priority, but I do want to caveat that we don't think anything changes. and our upward trajectory that we previously articulated, we remain highly optimistic in our ability to meet and exceed that.
spk04: Yeah, I mean, you look at it, I mean, you have 40-year high inflation, basically as long as I've been alive, and we certainly didn't see that in our lifetime. And when we sort of look at it, what happened, and it came very, very quickly, and I think GFL, along with the industry, responded sort of appropriately. And I think if you can look at the business, and yeah, there might be 100 basis points of margin contraction for a short period of time. But at the end of the day, we recovered 100 plus percent of the dollars. And I think that's sort of a feat in its own right. And it's a testament to the sort of durability and resiliency of the business and the industry. So, you know, I think it's a great data point that we've all sort of lived through the last you know, particularly three, four months here. And I think that's just going to provide a great outcome as we move into 2023 and 2024, as we get back to more normalized states. You know, from my perspective, I do think the driver issue is real. I think, yes, you know, we are significantly lower unemployment rates than historical averages. But, you know, the driver pool and the retention of drivers and keeping them as industries is going to be a challenge for the entire industry. And, you know, we continue to look at different ways and with technology and automation, et cetera, to expand that driver pool, you know, to ensure that we can continue driving sort of the business forward. But outside of that, I think we're going to normalize pretty quickly, and we're going to get back onto that original margin expansion opportunity that we talked about, you know, prior to this large inflationary spike.
spk06: Okay. Those are great answers. Thank you very much.
spk00: Thank you for your question, Tim. Our next question comes from Jerry Wevich at Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk01: Hi, this is Adam on for Jerry today. I know you're focused on the initial landfill gas projects in the pipeline right now, but could you frame for us the development opportunity set beyond the initial sites? How many of your landfills today have gas producing potential?
spk04: yeah so we've done we you know we updated uh the rng opportunity um in in sort of our prepared remarks so if you look at where we're sort of sit today you basically have five sites that are you know on track sort of on under construction going to come online really between uh you know q2 of 2023 and q2 of 2024 and then You know, which represent, you know, those sites today represent approximately 6 million MMBTUs of fuel. So, you know, apply whatever price you want on that. Today's market pricing is probably in the $37, $38 U.S. per MMBTU, which we sort of, you know, are over half of that, you know, plus the royalties. And then you have the other sites that we talked about, which represent that we're literally just in the final throes of negotiation. And those sites are another eight, which represent probably about four and a half million MMBTUs. So again, apply that same sort of math and it spits out the outcome. And then you have We have another site in Canada, which we're finalizing, which is a large site, which is, you know, approximately a million and a half to 1.7 million MMVTUs. And then we have a whole subset of other projects that we've now gone out, that we've, you know, gone out, done the work. Pipelines are accessible. And we've gone out, we're in the RFP stage for those, which are another approximately nine sites. So those nine sites would represent sort of another four to four and a half million MMBTUs. They would be a little bit, I would say, from an operating cost perspective, so a little bit less profitable, but, you know, still well within an acceptable sort of IRR hurdle. So I think when you sort of couple those all together, the five plus the eight that were in definitive documentation, Another nine, you know, the opportunity subset has now moved up to sort of 22 sites from the original guide that we had given around sort of around the 10 to 12.
spk01: Got it. That's super helpful. And my last question, acquired annualized revenue is around $360 million year to date. Based on M&A dialogue today, can you just help us think about where that could track towards the end of the year?
spk07: Yeah, Adam, it's loose. I mean, we don't like to give an M&A target per se by quarter. You know, we just speak for the year as a whole. And what we said at the beginning of the year was I think $400 to $500 million of revenue could be acquired. You know, so if we're at 360 today, you know, I think that sets you up to be on track or to exceed that amount. You know, I don't think you'll see any more revenue. sprint size acquisitions for the balance of the year, as similar to Q2, we'll be focusing on those densifying tuck-ins. But I think, you know, achieving our targeted stated goal for the year, you know, is obviously well within reach with the success we've had in the first quarter, the first half.
spk01: Great. Thanks a lot.
spk00: Thank you for your question, Jerry. And our final question comes from Chris Murray at ABT Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk09: Yeah, thanks, folks. We've spent a lot of time talking about margins and growth and solid waste. Can we just maybe talk about environmental services for half a sec? Organic growth was really significant, over 20%. And I guess just the organic growth gets masked a little bit because of the acquisition growth. Can you talk a little bit about how much of that 20% organic is tied to just the price of used motor oil? and any impacts we should be thinking about going forward. And as well, you talked a little bit about wanting to move the margin profile from the low 20s to the high 20s. What are the key levers we should be thinking about in terms of that margin profile going forward?
spk07: Yeah, hey, Chris, it's Luke. So on the first question, you know, the outperformance in environmental service, you have about $8 million to $9 million you're picking up at incremental used motor oil pricing. which we've factored into our broader fuel cost impact because we think of that as a natural sort of hedge to the rising fuel prices. But that's the quantum at the sort of top line this year. If you think about the second part of the question, you've got to remember the margin profile being given in that segment for this quarter is inclusive of about a 60 to 70 basis point drag from M&A. The Terrapure business came on at a lower margin than our business, and you're seeing that mixed impact as a sort of drag. So you peel that back, and you're actually getting organic margin expansion in that business from the same levers and strategies that we've been talking about in our solid waste business. We've assembled what we think is a best-in-class infrastructure or network that we are now scaling with densifying tuck-ins as well as organic growth to leverage that relatively fixed cost back end and drive operating margin. And that's the plan. I think we're seeing it play out in spades much earlier on than we had anticipated with the TerraPure integration. And we think the sort of opportunity set as we go forward to leverage this new expanded network and our capabilities has never been greater. So it's, continue to do small tuck-ins to densify as well as just drive incremental price and volume into that relatively fixed cost is the path that we're going to run down for the next couple of years and take that from the mid-20s to the high 20s.
spk04: We always anticipated this would come back. We called this last year. We didn't know the exact timing, but there was clearly a lot of You know people that had sidelined you know a lot of work, just because of the stopping and starting again because this business was so levered to Canada. And the code restrictions that would come in and out, and I think that was part of the attractive part of the opportunity when we bought the business, we were you know using. Colgate impacted numbers when we bought the business and we knew there was a massive synergy opportunity from our business from. east coast to west coast, and all of that is playing out, as Luke said, exactly how we anticipated. You know, I think even from a synergy perspective, we exceeded our original synergy expectation in the first six months of this year, so that's going to all prove out to be all additive as we move into the back half of the year. And obviously with the COVID recovery continuing to happen and, you know, the removal of restrictions, you know, it's all played out as anticipated. Albeit the timing was a little bit off, but certainly the thesis that we had going into it continues to prove out. So all on plan.
spk05: Okay, that's great.
spk09: My next question, just at the investigation, you talked a little bit about, you know, you call it your self-help type items. James Forrest, Norcal PTAC, No things like like CNG like automating solid motors. I'm just kind of curious, how are you guys seeing equipment supply these days. Is anything starting to free up and going to give you some opportunities to add additional equipment or accelerate the delivery of equipment as we go into the second half.
spk07: Yeah, Chris, it's Luke. You know, I think things are tight out there. You heard it in our prepared remarks that the impacts of delayed truck delivery is driving incremental sort of R&M, truck rentals, et cetera. You know, I think there's a perspective that things should sort of loosen up as we go forward, but I don't think anyone is anticipating the next sort of couple quarters to be opportunity for accelerated deployment. I think we'll be happy to get what we hoped to originally have received. and, you know, go forward from there. I think the opportunity set for accelerated capital deployment into those self-help things really sort of plays out as you get into sort of latter half of 23 to 24. We can start thinking about those sort of strategies as the free cash flow profile ramps provides the opportunity to more than cover any M&A opportunities, and you really start looking at excess free cash flow. So I think we have a little bit of runway before we contemplate accelerating those programs. As we've said, we're using normal course replacement CapEx dollars to advance the initiatives in those areas, but the opportunity to employ capital above and beyond the normal course replacement CapEx is probably still a couple of years out.
spk09: Okay, that's fair. All right, thanks, folks.
spk04: Thank you so much.
spk02: Well, thank you, everyone. That's great. Thank you, everyone.
spk04: Any other questions, operator?
spk00: No, there are no other questions. I'll pass back over to you, Patrick.
spk04: Thank you so much. Thank you, everyone, for taking the time to join us this morning. We look forward to speaking to you after our Q3 results.
spk00: Thank you everyone for joining us today.
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