Getty Realty Corporation

Q4 2023 Earnings Conference Call

2/15/2024

spk06: Realty's earnings conference call for the fourth quarter 2023. This call is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Prior to starting the call, Joshua Dicker, Executive Vice President and General Counsel and Secretary of the company, will read a safe harbor statement and provide information about non-GAAP financial measures. Please go ahead, Mr. Dicker.
spk07: Thank you. I would like to thank you all for joining us for Getty Realty's fourth quarter and year-end earnings conference call. Yesterday afternoon, the company released its financial and operating results for the quarter and year-ended December 31, 2023. The Form 8K and earnings release are available in the investor relations section of our website at gettyrealty.com. Certain statements made in the course of this call are not based on historical information and may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements are based on management's current expectations and beliefs and are subject to trends, events, and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements. Examples of forward-looking statements include our 2024 guidance and may also include statements made by management, including those regarding the company's future company operations, future financial performance or investment plans and opportunities. We caution you that such statements reflect our best judgment based on factors currently known to us and that actual events or results could differ materially. I refer you to the company's annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022, and our subsequent filings made with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of the risks and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in any forward-looking statements made today. You should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, which reflect our view only as of the date hereof. The company undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statements that may be made in the course of this call. Also, please refer to our earnings release for a discussion of our use of non-GAAP financial measures, including our definition of adjusted funds from operations, or AFFO, and our reconciliation of those measures to net earnings. With that, let me turn the call over to Christopher Constant, our Chief Executive Officer.
spk03: Thank you, Josh. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our earnings call for the fourth quarter and year-end 2023. Joining us on the call today are Mark O'Lear, our Chief Operating Officer, and Brian Dickman, our Chief Financial Officer. I will lead off today's call by summarizing our financial results and investment activities and will provide commentary on how we are effectively executing on our growth objectives in a thoughtful and disciplined manner. As usual, Mark will then take you through our portfolio and Brian will further discuss our financial results and guidance. 2023 proved to be another strong year for Getty and set us up for continued growth in 2024. We invested a record $326 million, raised $295 million of attractively priced capital, and continued to advance our portfolio diversification objectives. We entered new markets and expanded our presence in top MSAs around the U.S. We spread our investments across all of our target sectors and carefully structured transactions to provide certainty of funding for our growing tenants and to minimize our risk. Our successful investment activities combined with our healthy in-place portfolio produced strong revenue and AFFO per share growth and a sector-leading dividend increase. This excellent performance was the direct result of the hard work by the Getty team, who embraced the challenge to accelerate our growth despite precarious and at times unpredictable market conditions. The net result of our record investment activity was an annual total revenue increase of 12.2%, and when you factor in our effective capital markets executions, AFFO per share grew 5.1% for the year ended 2023, meeting the high end of our revised guidance range. We think these would be strong results in any given year, but I'd argue they were exceptional in light of all that transpired in 2023. Our performance was driven by our focused strategy and the competitive advantages we believe we've developed over many years in our space. With the backdrop of volatile transaction markets, we remained disciplined and relied on our core principles, including prioritizing relationships and being experts in our transaction markets. Our tenants are often making long-term financing decisions and rely on us to effectively structure and close transactions on a timely basis, irrespective of where we are in the economic cycle. To that end, we strengthened relationships with existing tenants and aggressively pursued new business with both mature and emerging retailers. We also lean heavily on our knowledge of the underlying sectors we invest in and our database of thousands of previously underwritten properties to make us smarter investors. Notably, we continue to add newly built stores, which we refer to as new to industry or NTI locations to our portfolio. And in 2023, approximately 80% of our investments were for these NTI sites. From an operations standpoint, we believe it benefits our portfolio to acquire state of the art new builds that reflect the latest tenant prototypes, including increased store sizes, prominent branding, the latest technology, and in certain cases, drive-through lanes. And from an investment perspective, we leveraged our expertise to carefully underwrite each opportunity, set appropriate rents, limit our gross capital outlay, and ultimately acquire these assets either at or below their construction costs. Another core principle at Getty is the concept of continuous improvement with respect to our operations. We took two important steps on this front in 2023. First, We realigned some of our team for an increased focus on our investment program in order to better align with our growth plans. We now have more than one third of the company focused on sourcing, underwriting, negotiating, and closing acquisition opportunities. We also launched a multi-year technology initiative to ensure that we have the systems in place to support a larger platform and to make us more efficient and better investors. The initial phases of implementation will go live in early 2024. As we enter this year, Getty is well positioned for the current environment, given the essential nature of our assets, the operating strength of our institutional tenant base, our distinctive sourcing and underwriting capabilities, and our strong balance sheet. We expect our 2024 earnings growth to be driven by the escalators from our in-place portfolio, additional income from investments acquired or partially funded in 2023, by our investment pipeline which currently includes more than 67 million of assets under contract the majority of which are projected to close in the first half of this year our target retail sectors continue to be healthy as evidenced by the resilience of the us consumer and operators in the convenience and automotive retail space are pursuing a variety of growth strategies to meet consumer demand although our investment volume in 2024 will ultimately depend on market conditions including sellers' expectations regarding rates and their willingness to transact. We think our relationships, underwriting expertise, and liquidity will serve us well as we source and diligently underwrite opportunities to acquire new convenience and automotive retail assets. We remain confident in the strength of Getty's in-place portfolio and our ability to create value for earnings growth and portfolio diversification. And with that, I will turn it over to Mark to discuss our portfolio and investment activities.
spk10: Thank you, Chris. As of the end of the year, our lease portfolio included 1,089 net lease properties and two active redevelopment sites. Excluding the active redevelopments, occupancy was 99.8%, and our weighted average lease term was 8.9 years. Our portfolio spans 40 states plus Washington, D.C., with 60% of our annualized base rent coming from the top 50 MSAs and 77% coming from the top 100 MSAs. Our rents are well covered with a trailing 12-month tenant rent coverage ratio of 2.6 times. Turning to our investment activities for the year, we underwrote a record $6.8 billion of potential investments. Continuing with the themes of portfolio growth and diversification, convenience stores represented approximately 45% of our underwriting, with the remaining 55% being focused on other convenience and automotive retail property types, including express tunnel car washes, auto service centers, primary tire stores and oil change locations, and drive-through quick service restaurants. We had a strong quarter in which we invested $61.8 million through sale leasebacks or development funding transactions, bringing our full-year investments to a record $326.3 million. Highlights of this quarter's investments, some of which include amounts funded in prior periods include the acquisition of two convenience stores located in the Charleston MSA for $12.9 million, 12 auto service center properties located throughout the southeastern U.S. for $27.8 million, two express tunnel car washes located in the Cleveland and Jacksonville MSAs for $10.6 million, And two, under construction car wash properties for $6.2 million, as part of this acquisitions, we will provide additional funding during the construction period to complete these projects. We also advanced incremental development funding in the amount of $24.5 million for the construction of 20 new to industry car washes and auto service centers. These assets are either already owned by the company or are under construction or will be acquired via sale-leaseback transactions at the end of the project's respective construction periods. For the fourth quarter, the aggregate initial cash yield on our investment activity was nearly 8%, and the weighted average lease term for the acquired properties was 15 years. For the year end of 2023, 326.3 million of investments included the acquisition of 40 express tunnel car washes, 13 auto service centers, 12 convenience stores, and three drive-through quick service restaurants. The weighted average initial yield release term for these acquisitions was 17.2 years, and the average initial cash yield for all investments was approximately 7.3%. Subsequent to the year end, we invested $18.6 million for the development and or acquisition of nine express tunnel car washes, eight auto service centers, and one convenience store. We currently have more than $67 million of commitments to fund acquisitions and developments, which we expect to spend over the next six to nine months, at an average initial yield in the mid-7% range, which is reflective of the mix of more recent originations similar to the yields we achieved in the fourth quarter and lower yields on some of our older originations. The market for our property types continues to adjust to the changed rate environment and remains challenging. While we were able to deploy capital in 2023 at materially higher yields than the prior year and are currently offering on transactions in the 8% range, it is clear that these pricing levels have many sellers reevaluating their needs to transact in the near term. With the expectation that there will be rate cuts in the second half of 2024, there has been a decline in overall transaction activity in our retail sectors thus far this year. Despite this temporary market dislocation, Getty's position in the market remains unchanged. We believe the market will adjust to the changing economic landscape and will stabilize as our tenants look to continue growing their businesses. We remain disciplined in our underwriting and focused on our investment strategy, which prioritizes direct transactions with both growing and established operators. We believe this strategy will afford us the opportunity to work with our tenant partners as the market evolves. Ultimately, we expect that we will be able to identify accretive investments as we move throughout the year. Moving to our redevelopment platform, During the quarter, we invested approximately $300,000, and projects were in various stages in our pipeline. We completed one redevelopment project where rent commenced on an automotive parts store in Brooklyn, New York, which is leased to AutoZone. We invested a total of approximately $1.2 million in the project and generated incremental return on investment capital of 9.3%. We also completed the renovation of a convenience store property in Connecticut. We invested $450,000 in this project in return for increased rent and an extended lease term. We ended the quarter with three signed leases for redevelopment projects and are seeing renewed interest from retailers to expansions plans overlap with the footprint in our portfolio. We expect to continuously complete projects over the next few years. Turning to asset management activities, for the fourth quarter, we sold four properties, realizing $7.2 million in gross proceeds and exited one lease property. For the year, we sold nine properties, realizing $11.9 million in gross proceeds and exited five lease properties. With that, I turn the call over to Brian to discuss our financial results.
spk11: Thanks, Mark. Good morning, everyone. Last night, we reported AFFO per share of 57 cents for Q4 2023, representing an increase of 3.6% versus the 55 cents per share we reported in Q4 2022. FFO and net income for the quarter were 51 cents and 30 cents per share, respectively. For the full year 2023, AFFO per share was $2.25, representing an increase of 5.1%, over the $2.14 per share we reported in 2022. FFO net income for 2023 were $2.06 and $1.15 per share, respectively. I'll mostly focus on our full year 2023 results from here, but happy to answer any questions on the quarter during Q&A. Our total revenues for the year were $187.1 million, representing year-over-year growth of 12.2% versus 2022. Base rental income, which excludes tenant reimbursements, gap revenue adjustments, and any additional rent, increased by 9.5% to $161.8 million. Away from the income statement, I'd highlight that our annualized base rent of $172.8 million as of December 31st was up 12.1% from the $154.1 million we reported at the end of 2022. This is one of the largest year-over-year increases we've achieved in ABR, and we think reflects the efforts we've made to scale the platform. This growth was driven primarily by our strong acquisition activity, as well as recurring rent escalators in our leases and rent commencements at completed redevelopment projects. On the expense side, total G&A costs increased 15% to $23.7 million in 2023. Excluding stock-based compensation, G&A increased by 8.9% to $17.2 million. The increase in G&A was primarily due to personnel costs, including some non-recurring retirement expenses, as well as higher professional fees, including audit tax and legal expenses. We also made certain platform investments in 2023, including in our people and technology systems, which we expect to benefit from starting as early as this year. We anticipate that G&A increases will moderate, and G&A as a percentage of our revenue and asset base will decrease as these investments mature and we continue to scale the company. Property costs increased 10.4% to $23.8 million in 2023, primarily due to higher reimbursable real estate taxes. Excluding reimbursable expenses, property costs decreased by 11.4% to $4.3 million as we continue to reduce rent expense by exiting leased properties. Environmental expenses, which are highly variable due to a number of estimates and non-cash adjustments, were $1.3 million in 2023. Recall that 2022 included the removal of reserves for unknown environmental liabilities, which is the primary driver of the significant change in environmental expenses versus 2022. Turning to the balance sheet and our capital markets activities, we ended the year with $760 million of total debt outstanding. This consisted primarily of $675 million of senior unsecured notes with a weighted average interest rate of 3.9% and a weighted average maturity of six and a half years. We also have a $75 million unsecured term loan outstanding at a 6.1% interest rate and $10 million drawn on our $300 million unsecured revolving credit facilities. As of December 31st, net debt to EBITDA was 4.9 times, and total debt to total capitalization was 34%, while total indebtedness to total asset value as calculated pursuant to our credit agreement was 35%. Taking into account unsettled forward equity, net debt to EBITDA would be approximately 4.7 times. Moving to our equity capital markets activities, during the fourth quarter, we settled 1.25 million shares of common stock that were subject to outstanding forward sale agreements in connection with our February follow-on. This generated approximately $40.6 million in net proceeds. In addition, during the fourth quarter, we entered into new forward sale agreements under our ATM program to sell approximately 800,000 shares, which will generate anticipated gross proceeds of $24.6 million. At year end, we had a total of approximately 1.1 million shares of common stock subject to outstanding forward sale agreements, which upon settlement are anticipated to raise gross proceeds of approximately $32.2 million. Returning to our $67 million committed investment pipeline, as Chris mentioned, these transactions are fully funded through a combination of proceeds from our outstanding forward equity agreements and the remaining $75 million available to us under our delayed draw term loan. Pro forma for these investments and capital activity, we expect our balance sheets to remain well positioned to support continued growth. I'd note that since 2016, we've acquired more than $1.2 billion of new assets while effectively managing our balance sheet and maintaining leverage near the midpoint of our target range, four and a half to five and a half times net debt to EBITDA. As our investment pipeline evolves, we will continue to evaluate all capital sources to ensure that we're funding transactions in an accretive manner while continuing to maintain these leverage levels and our investment grade profile. With respect to our environmental liability, we ended the year at $22.4 million, which was a reduction of approximately $800,000 since the end of 2022. Our net environmental remediation spending in 2023 was approximately $5.7 million. And finally, we're reaffirming our 2024 AFFO per share guidance range of $2.29 to $2.31, which we introduced earlier this year. As a reminder, our outlook includes transaction and capital markets activities to date, but does not otherwise assume any potential acquisitions, dispositions, or capital markets activities for the remainder of 2024. Primary factors impacting our AFFO guidance include variability with respect to certain operating expenses, deal pursuit costs, and the timing of anticipated demolition costs for redevelopment projects, which run through property costs on our P&L.
spk02: With that, I'll ask the operator to open the call for questions.
spk06: Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you'd like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from the line of Todd Thomas with KeyBank Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
spk04: Hi, good morning. This is on for Todd Thomas. Just a quick one for me. So what is the initial yield on the committed investment pipeline? And are you seeing any noticeable change in the yield for the pipeline relative to the cap rate discussed previously?
spk02: Yeah, good morning. This is Brian.
spk11: So it's right in the mid sevens, right around seven and a half percent. And I think as Mark mentioned in his remarks, you know, currently reflects a blend of some transactions that were originated 12, 18 months ago, some of our development funding transactions that are at yields slightly less than that, as well as some new originations, you know, over the last couple months, which would be, you know, north of that and in the 8 percent area, as Mark articulated, we're putting out new paper today. So, it's really a blend of some older originations and the yields we're seeing more recently.
spk04: Okay, and just one more. So what is your capital plan as you look ahead to 2024? I know guidance doesn't include any future capital raising activity, but you have an undrawn term loan and unsettled forward equity. So how should we think about additional capital raising activity throughout the year, given where your cost of capital sits today?
spk11: Yeah, I think you largely answered it in your question, right? So we have north of $105 million from those two sources against a $67 million pipeline. So we have dry powder right from those two committed sources, as well as a revolver that's effectively undrawn with $290 million of of availability. So we feel really good about how we're positioned against the current pipeline, what we're seeing beyond that. And honestly, like it is most years, as we move through the year, it'll be pipeline dependent and capital markets dependent as we continually look to match funder activity and do it accretively.
spk12: Okay. Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Mitch Germain with Citizens J&P Securities. Please proceed with your question.
spk08: Thank you and congrats on 2023. Chris, you mentioned some tech initiatives. I'd love if you could maybe just kind of provide some perspective there. And is this going to create a little bit of drag on G&A temporarily as you get the system up and running?
spk03: Yeah, I mean, I think I highlight two things, right? So as we've grown the business, we've certainly put a lot of emphasis on making sure we have the right people here at Getty. We did a lot of work this year in terms of bringing some new people into the organization. Again, it's all around helping us originate, underwrite, negotiating, and ultimately close transactions. So we feel really good about those investments. And the technology really dovetails with all of that. It's making us kind of more efficient from an underwriting standpoint. It's making us more efficient from an accounting standpoint, data management. And we did invest some in 2023. We expect to have some in 2024. But I think what's really important, what Brian mentioned is, you know, we've made a lot of platform investments at Getty, whether it's people or in the technology area. And we are getting to a place where we're starting to see the benefits of size and scale. So we believe that our G&A increases will start to moderate as we look at 2024 and beyond, even including some of those investments, Mitch.
spk08: Great. That's super helpful. Any change in lease structure, meaning, you know, obviously, are you getting higher escalations in the leases that you're negotiating today?
spk10: Morning, Mitch. Mark here. So, I think we started to comment on this, you know, going into last year and years prior that we, you try and extract as much value out of the total transaction as possible. Lease escalators started to lean more towards the 2% per annum in our standard document. So yeah, I think we've been able to extract value in addition to the total initial cash returns that we always reference.
spk08: Great. Last one from me. I know you've got a couple of redevelopment opportunities ongoing, and it seems like most of your redevelopment, at least historically, has been taking a property and making it into some sort of different use. I'm curious, given the fragmentation of the C-Store and auto industry, given so many single operators, as they look to whether it be improve their inside offerings, add kind of EV charging, whatever it might be, Does that create a redevelopment opportunity for you, or is that creating more of an acquisition opportunity for you?
spk03: Yeah, I think, you know, we saw this quarter, and it was in Mark's remarks, you know, we have in the past invested in properties in our portfolio that are already subject to a lease. We call it, you know, a revenue-enhancing CapEx project where someone's looking to either build a bigger C-store or completely renovate a smaller store and increase its size and product offerings. I think that's certainly an opportunity, right? You can see where the industry is headed. Our tenants are very focused on having the modern C-store, which has food and beverage. Again, if the market and the size of the property are there, then I think Getty would be happy to invest for a return with our existing tenants there. And then Just to touch on the broader redevelopment, Mitch, we actually have done a number of complete redevelopments for properties that were older format C-stores that are now brand new, state-of-the-art new builds.
spk08: Great, thanks. Good luck this year. Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Deadline with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Hi, this is Farrell Green. On behalf of Josh, I was wondering where in the market are you seeing the best pricing opportunity? I think last year you made a comment about convenience stores. Are you seeing anything, I guess, even getting closer back to automotives or car washes?
spk03: Yeah, I think pricing in general moved across all asset classes last year. And, you know, as Mark mentioned, we're putting out offers across all the sectors that we focus on that are and the eights at this point in time. I really think, again, as we mentioned earlier, the amount that we ultimately deploy this year will depend not only on their cap rates, but on sellers' willingness to transact, right? Certainly there's the view that there will be rate cuts in 2024. The question is when and by how much, and that's certainly going to impact what I think market cap rates will be as we progress to 2024 and overall transaction volumes.
spk01: Okay. And this may be a little repetitive in comments you just made about being kind of a trend that 2024 transaction volumes are going to be pulling back. That's something that you can most likely, I don't know, even expect going through just dependent on your current pipeline and what you're seeing.
spk03: Yeah. You know, from our perspective, the beauty of the sale leaseback, the direct nature of our transactions is, you know, we think we are, and the team that we put in place, we think we're set up to have another year of strong investment volumes. And, you know, we're underwriting, we're staying in front of our existing relationships and building new business relationships, right? It's just a matter of does it make sense to transact and at what levels? You know, from our perspective, we have a view of value. We have our underwriting model. We're certainly very bullish on the sectors we invest in. Ultimately, the counterparty certainly has to look at what's best for their balance sheet and what's best for their growth perspective. So this year will be about finding opportunities that work for both parties. And again, we think they're out there and that we'll continue to transact in 2024, but the ultimate volume will depend on a lot of factors this year.
spk12: Great. Thanks so much. Thank you.
spk06: Our next question comes from the line of Akhil Guntapalli with JPMorgan Chase. Please proceed with your question.
spk05: Hello, everyone. I'm Akhil from JPMorgan. First question, can you discuss trends in the car wash business and risks around supply given the popularity in this category the last few years?
spk03: Yeah, I think, again, the car wash sector, right, you had several years of explosive growth. There was a lot of M&A, a lot of new capital coming in, probably 2021, 2022 in particular. You know, we've spoken to a lot of our larger relationships in the sector over the course of 2023. I think the biggest trends we're seeing, right, are memberships continue to be quite strong. In most cases, I think membership revenue is probably around two-thirds, if not more, of overall top line. With that said, car washes are not immune to what's going on in the broader economy. I think drive-up visits are where our tenants are seeing some softness at this time. I think what that translates to is... instead of maybe focusing on larger M&A transactions, right, our tenants are selectively evaluating growth, but they're really focused on operations and pricing and bringing a lot of those new builds, right, faster along in terms of getting up to maturity, right, to stabilize their business, generate more income for that. So we're still very excited about the car wash sector. We're excited about our relationships in that sector. And what's causing a lot of the health of our operators there, but certainly it's a consumer-facing business, and they're working through their operational improvements, and we're there to support our relationships.
spk05: Understood. One last question. It looked like environmental costs were fairly modest in 4Q. How does this look like in 2024 and has this really wound down to a pretty low level that stays there? Sorry, Akhil, can you repeat that? What costs? The environment costs. I think the environment costs are more important.
spk11: Yeah, so in short form, right, environmental is included, is comprised of you know, some cash costs, excuse me, that we incur to run the program, right? There's some insurance premiums in there, legal, professional fees. You know, that's typically been recently around a million dollars a year. That would be kind of the flow through to AFFO, broad strokes and kind of round numbers there. And we expect that that's probably the right level for at least the foreseeable future. Beyond that, there's a lot of activity happening non-cash, non-recurring, estimates changing. That's typically the noise that's in our net earnings and FFO number, but that we adjust out for AFFO. So, you know, we'd have you focus on kind of those cash costs to manage the program, and it's been running about a million dollars a year.
spk02: Got it. Thank you for taking the questions.
spk06: Thank you. As a reminder, it's star one to join the question queue. Our next question comes from the line of Alex Fagan with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
spk09: Hi, good morning, and thank you for taking my question. First off, may provide some additional color on the increase in tenants who are in that 1x to 2.49x rent coverage.
spk11: Yeah, sure. It's Brian. We have in particularly in that strata, as it were, we bring sites into our analysis after they're open for 12 months, although I think our operators would tell you most sites are up to three years in terms of a stabilization period. So that is actually the increase in that bucket, as it were, for this reporting period, as we did have some new builds, both in the C-Store space and particularly in the car wash space. that just came into our analysis, and so they're still in their ramp-up phase, but they're hitting that bucket as it relates to how we distribute the rent coverage.
spk09: Got it. That's helpful. And kind of secondly, has there been any change in the demand for development funding from either existing or new relationships? And what kind of investment spreads does Getty need to execute on those deals?
spk10: Yeah, this is Mark. So the demand for development funding remains strong as a source of capital for those new bills. You know, Chris emphasized in his remarks about the benefits of adding new industry units into our portfolio. And it remains a very active product and, you know, an option for our growing tenants. relative to other sources of capital. We do see a modest premium for the forward commitment of development funding. It's a longer duration, as you've seen in some of the hangover deals in our blended cap rate from earlier in last year. So we have a modest premium over a typical sale leaseback. That is highly dependent upon point in time and how far out that that forward commitment might entail.
spk02: Thank you, and have a great rest of your day.
spk00: Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our question and answer session. I'll turn the floor back to Mr. Constant for any final comments.
spk03: Thank you, operator, and thank you all for being part of our call this morning. We appreciate your interest in Getty, and we look forward to getting back on with you. We report the First quarter of 2024 in late April.
spk06: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.
Disclaimer

This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.

-

-