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spk08: Greetings, and welcome to the Helios Technologies first quarter 2022 financial results conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Tanya Allman, Vice President, Investor Relations, Corporate Communications, and Risk Management for Helios Technologies. Thank you. You may begin.
spk09: Thank you, Operator, and good day, everyone. Welcome to the Helios Technologies First Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. We issued a press release yesterday afternoon. If you do not have that release, it is available on our website at hlio.com. You will also find slides there that will accompany our conversation today. On the line with me are Joseph Matasevic, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Tricia Fulton, our Chief Financial Officer. They will spend the next several minutes reviewing our first quarter results, discussing our progress with our accelerated growth goals, affirming our outlook for 2022, and then we will open the call to your questions. If you turn to slide two, you will find our safe harbor statement. As you may be aware, we will make some forward-looking statements during this presentation and the Q&A session. These statements apply to future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties, as well as other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from where we are today. These risks and uncertainties and other factors were provided in our 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. You can find these documents on our website or at sec.gov. I'll also point out that during today's call, we will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. You should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. We have provided reconciliations of comparable GAAP with non-GAAP measures in the tables that accompany today's slides. And with that, it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Joseph.
spk07: Thank you, Tania, and good day, everyone. Our team had another exceptional quarter as we are sticking to our game plan by executing on our strategy to drive accelerated growth. We are achieving this through innovation and the deployment of the Helios business system to keep us centered and focused on what we can control. Even while we continue to live with the backdrop of some of the most unusual times in recent world history. If you would please turn to slide three, I will review the quarterly highlights. We started 2022 off strong. In fact, on a run rate basis, we are well on our way of meeting our goal to reach at least one billion in revenue by 2023. We have been successful executing our manufacturing and our operations strategy to deliver outperformance, which led to our higher than anticipated $241 million in revenue in the first quarter. Our innovative higher value solutions are proving to be sticky with our customers and are building the loyalty. This is how our brand is growing and how Helios is winning in our markets. Additionally, our responsiveness to our customers and our ability to deliver top tier industry lead times helps us beat the competition and we continue to take market share. What is very apparent in our results is the strong operating leverage inherent in our business model, along with the benefits we are starting to achieve as we shift to a more integrated operating company. As we successfully grow our top line, we are expanding our bottom line at a greater rate. I am convinced it is the commitment of our world-class team executing against our business system that is driving our earnings power. We are focused on continuous improvement and operational excellence while proactively managing our supply chain and inventory to ensure we keep delivering for our customers. I believe it is important for our investors to understand not only how well positioned we are to capitalize on strong economic conditions, but also our ability to weather macroeconomic challenges. These attributes include the strength of our balance sheet, our ability to quickly deliver, diversity of our revenue sources and geographies, our innovative culture that is part of our DNA, our leading market positions across our portfolios, our pure play focus within the hydraulics and electronics industries, our world-class people. Without them, nothing else matters. We believe all these qualities create not only the buffers that protect us when times get tough, but also create the opportunities to help us further accelerate our operating model. Importantly, we have delivered on our promises for eight sequential quarters and are on track to achieve the milestone that we have accelerated by two years of reaching at least one billion in revenue by 2023. I want to thank all of our global colleagues for the dedication and hard work in achieving these amazing results. Now I would like to provide some highlights on our most recent acquisition announcement Please turn to slide four. TAMI is an ideal demonstration of our bolt-down flywheel acquisition strategy. They bring differentiated technologies that expand our hydraulic segment offerings. In fact, because the products are so complementary to ours, they have been partnering with our FASTA business to sell their products since October of 2020. We already had an established working relationship with their team, and it makes sense to bring them into the Helios family to further accelerate our combined efforts. They manufacture rotating products that enable connections within the hydraulic system to eliminate leakage. The combination of our cartridge belts, quick release couplings, and swivels create industry leading solutions that are not only very high value and cost effective for our customers, but also have safety and environmental benefits as well. We believe the potential of this bolt-on is significant and it further strengthens Helios in the hydraulics market as the leading pure play provider of highly engineered solutions to both OEMs and our distribution partners. As we continue to target system sales across our segments over time, this type of technology enhancement only further extends our differentiation to be the most trusted strategic partner for our customers. Let me now turn the call over to Tricia to review the financial results and discuss our affirmed outlook in more detail before I come back for some closing remarks. Tricia, please.
spk10: Thank you, Joseph, and hello, everyone. On slides five through nine, I will review our first quarter 2022 consolidated results. As Joseph noted, we started the year off strong out of the gate, managing through the continued challenges of the global supply chain and broader macro environment. Net sales grew 17% over the prior year period as we executed our growth plans and continued to take market share. We delivered strong organic growth of 14% during the quarter, even with a $4.7 million foreign currency headwind. First quarter gross profit of $83.6 million increased $8.2 million, or 11% over the prior year period from higher volumes. Our manufacturing strategy is driving results, even though the benefits are being partially masked by the current macro environment. Our teams have spent a lot of time formulating plans for each business segment to maximize our in the region, for the region, and make versus buy strategies as we integrate the acquisitions we have made over the last 18 months. Gross margin was 34.8% in the quarter, down 200 basis points from the year-ago period. While volumes and pricing were up, increases in logistics, raw materials, and labor costs compressed margins. Adjusted EBITDA was $59 million, up 15%, with associated margin of 24.5%, compared with 25.1% from the same period a year ago. Higher volume was offset by the cost increases I just described. Our effective tax rate in the first quarter was 22.4%, compared with 23.2% in the prior year period, reflecting levels of income in varying tax jurisdictions. Diluted EPS improved to 94 cents, up 34%, while diluted non-cash EPS improved to $1.18, up 19% for the first quarter over the prior year period, reflecting higher sales, operational efficiencies, and strong operating leverage. Please turn to slide 10 for a view of our hydraulic segment results. First quarter hydraulic sales of $137.1 million were up 15% over the prior year period and benefited from improved demand and market share gains in the Americas and EMEA, despite the $4.5 million headwind from foreign currency exchange rates. Organic growth in this segment was 10% over the prior year period, while acquisitions added $6.4 million. This is strong growth despite an estimated 6.6 million of sales delays due to supply chain shortages in this segment. Q1 hydraulics gross profit increased 12% and benefited from higher volume. Gross margin of 37.1% versus 38.1% last year benefited from price increases and fixed cost leverage on higher volume. offset by increases in materials, logistics, labor costs, and unfavorable effects. Operating income increased 13% due to strong leverage and cost discipline, while margin modestly declined 50 basis points to 23.1% from the prior year period. Please turn to slide 11 for a review of our electronic segment results. Electronic sales were 103.4 million in the quarter, an increase of 21% over the year-ago period. Organic growth in this segment was up 20% in the first quarter. We are seeing strong demand from the health and wellness and recreational markets, and the growth was seen across all regions. For the quarter, we estimate that approximately 11 million of sales were delayed due to supply chain shortages. Electronic segment gross profit of $32.8 million in Q1 increased 9% from the prior year period on higher volume. Electronics gross margin of 31.7% was down from 35% in the year-ago period, reflecting price increases and fixed cost leverage on higher sales that were more than offset by increases in raw material, freight, logistics, and labor costs. Operating income for the electronic segment of $20.5 million was up 12% from the prior year period, although operating margin contracted 160 basis points. The operating margin reflects the flow through of gross margin partially offset by fixed cost leverage on higher sales and discipline cost management. Please turn to slide 12 for review of our cash flow. Cash from operations was $14.7 million in the first quarter compared with $15.1 million in the prior year period. We are carefully balancing our working capital requirements with our efforts to provide timely deliveries to our customers amidst significant demand and material shortages. We have increased inventories to address our backlog and maintain our top-tier lead times, which is helping us take market share. For the quarter, CapEx was 5.6 million or 2.3% of sales compared with 5 million or 2.4% of sales in the year-ago period. We are currently expecting CapEx in 2022 to be between 3% to 5% of sales. Free cash flow was 9.1 million in the first quarter. Our free cash flow conversion rate was 76% for the trailing 12 months ending first quarter of 2022. This is lower than our more typical rate, which was consistently over 100% from 2018 to 2020. We have made a conscious decision to invest in and grow inventory where demand dictates, and this strategy is reflected in our working capital needs. Regarding our capital structure on slide 13, we consistently demonstrate our ability to rapidly deliver our balance sheet. Our strategy is to flex up leverage for strategic, disciplined acquisitions and then quickly de-lever using cash generated from operations. Our pro forma net debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage of 1.79 times remains below our long-term goal of 2 times. We will continue to use cash to pay down debt as we reload for future acquisitions. Cash and equivalents were $33 million at the end of the first quarter, compared with $28.5 million at the end of 2021. Total debt at quarter end was $438.1 million, compared with $445 million at the end of 2021, reflecting repayments net of borrowings on our credit facilities of $4.3 million in the quarter. Total liquidity at the end of the quarter was $192 million. As a reminder, our capital priorities remain debt reduction, organic growth through new products and technologies, acquisitive growth, and distribution to shareholders. Now let's turn to slide 14. Even in the face of much greater macro uncertainty just two months after we first established this full year outlook, we are maintaining our guidance for 2022, which assumes constant currency using quarter end rates. We are considering the war in Ukraine, which has no clear timeline, broader extended lockdowns in major regions in China, the pace of inflation, timing and size of a potential recession, and the actions yet to be taken around the world by central banks. We will not include TAMI in our expectations until the acquisition closes in the next few months, although it is not material in size. Our outlook currently assumes our markets are not further impacted by inflation, the global pandemic, or the geopolitical environment. We are responsibly taking into consideration all these current events as we look forward. We continue to expect revenue in 2022 to be in the range of $930 to $950 million, which implies an annual organic growth rate of approximately 8% at the midpoint of the range. In terms of quarterly revenue flow, our first quarter exceeded our expectations. There is less visibility as we look at the second half of the year. While we have the benefit of pricing strategies coming into play, we want to remain cautious until we get further into the year and our visibility comes more into focus. Our adjusted EBITDA margin outlook remains 23.5% to 25%. which at the midpoint approximates our adjusted EBITDA margin for the full year of 2021. We will continue running our manufacturing strategy playbook, as Joseph described, to find ways to offset the macro impact. This implies that our expectations for adjusted EBITDA dollars remain in the range of 219 to 238 million, or roughly a 7% annual increase at the midpoint of the range. We expect interest expense to be between $14 to $15 million at current borrowing levels and rates. The effective tax rate for 2022 is expected to be in the range of 21 to 23%. Depreciation should be between $24.5 and $26.5 million, while outlook on amortization is approximately $28 to $29 million. Our expectations for diluted non-GAAP cash EPS remain between $4.35 to $4.60 per share in 2022. This represents a 5% increase over our 2021 results at the midpoint of the range. We are driving forward with our augmented strategy and delivering accelerated and profitable results while maintaining top quartile industry margins. As we address the highly unusual operating environment we are in, we are encouraged by the progress we are making and the success we are having. With that, I will turn the call back to Joseph for some final comments.
spk07: Thank you much, Tricia. These are unique times, yet I believe we are extremely well positioned to execute at high levels. It is very important to us to continue to do what we said we're going to do. We believe taking a cautious stance on the second half of the year right now is part of us being good stewards of the business. As I said last quarter, I am very optimistic that our potential as an organization will be further unleashed as we move beyond these inflationary and macroeconomic challenges. Over the last two years, we developed and have been executing on our augmented strategy that has taken us from a holding company to an integrated operating company. It has been perfect timing to make this transition, considering the changes in the world around us. It is providing tremendous leverage and will continue to do so over time as we get further into executing and implementing our operating and manufacturing plans. Our business is significantly more diversified today as we continue to grow and cover more wide spaces. Our R&D and sales teams are collaborating more than ever across all of the businesses. Our innovative product solutions that we are creating are stickier with our customers. In addition, our investments in manufacturing operations have contributed to top-tier industry lead times which we have been maintaining throughout this volatile environment. We are also very focused on our corporate sustainability efforts as part of these strategies. We are working to better articulate our ESG metrics and activity and recently rolled out a new website with our ESG section to highlight those details. We are super excited about our future and hope you share in that excitement. With that, let's open up the lines for Q&A, please.
spk08: Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Hammond with KeyBank. Please proceed with your question.
spk00: Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning, Jeff. Good morning, Jeff. So I was hoping, one, if you could give us price in the quarter, and two, just update us on how you're thinking about price-cost progression through the year as you kind of push some of these price increases through.
spk10: So on the price cost, we did get pricing in Q1. I think we talked about that on the last call. It wasn't fully active throughout Q1. We do expect that it will be fully in our numbers by the end of Q2. From a price cost perspective, I mean, we're trying to remain neutral by the end of Q2 on that. And we are seeing some pricing pressures in areas that we maybe didn't anticipate, but we're also seeing, as we've pointed out, really strong demand, so we're very encouraged by that.
spk00: Okay, and then, yeah, I just wanted to understand within the context of kind of holding the guide, and I understand kind of the high-level macro headwinds, but you mentioned kind of tougher visibility, so maybe just speak to that and, you know, talk about kind of what your backlog did, you know, and order trends through the quarter? Because it sounds like, you know, demand kind of remains strong, and I'd expect, you know, with kind of the shorter lead times, you'd continue to outgrow.
spk07: Yeah, Jeff, good morning. So you summarized it well. We are seeing continuous strong demand pretty much across our entire portfolio. you know, still paying very close attention to Asia, obviously, and Europe. Asia, for an example, you know, on the electronic side is slightly up, on the hydraulic side is slightly down. We did anticipate, you know, in our Kunshan factory, a 10-day shutdown. We are fully open now again. Close eye on Europe, as I mentioned, and then... you know, overall just the entire supply chain. We continue to see, you know, softer spots in some areas. So we've just been really cautious and careful. You know, as you know, our business model, how we like to run the company is we want to really do what they said we're going to do, and we don't have, you know, 100% confidence on the second half yet. So that kind of what drives the little cautionary step in our tone. But in terms of orders and demand and our backlog, it remains to be very strong.
spk00: And are you seeing any, like, is this Asia, or the Asia decline in hydraulics, was that more around the lockdown or some underlying slowing in demand?
spk07: No. It was purely around the lockdown. We do not see, well, this We saw a little bit of slowdown, but, you know, immaterial in that area. It was largely tied into the lockdown, Jeff.
spk00: Okay. I'll get back to you. Thanks. Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Chris Howe with Barrington Research. Please proceed with your question.
spk04: Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions.
spk06: Good morning, Chris. Hey, Chris.
spk04: Hey, good morning. just wanted to follow up on some of the segment level commentary you had on electronics. It was highlighted that the health and wellness market did well, as well as some other markets. Perhaps you could break down your performance in the quarter for health and wellness and how you anticipate health and wellness progressing through the year versus your expectations in addition to some of the other end markets that are performing well in electronics.
spk07: Yeah, Chris, so Tricia can have a little bit more detail if she sees fit, but our strategy has been from day number one to really create the leverage within the electronics segment you know, if it's with innovation or Balboa products or Joy and Way in China. So what you're starting to see is really that gross system sale and penetrating a broader market by just leveraging our products. You know, we have very heavily invested in new products and new innovation. In some cases, simplified our products in China other cases just edit feature to be really able to diversify. So in terms of your question on the electronics segment, we are pretty confident to be going to continue to move the needle as we get farther into rolling out our new products. And that goes not just for the North American market, but that goes for the global market. So a higher level of confidence in that area.
spk10: Yes, I think also we pointed to the recreational markets, which remain very strong on the electronics side, especially in the U.S. markets. We're seeing really strong demand and a lot of good discussions coming out of our customer meetings that are really encouraging for the future and going forward for that end market as well.
spk04: Okay, that's helpful. And my next question, or then I'll hop back in the queue. As we think about these environmental constraints, you mentioned your facility in China is back operational after a 10-day shutdown. Nonetheless, the direct and indirect impacts from this region are ongoing. As we think about that and also challenges around raw material freight logistics and labor costs how should we think about the sequential second quarter versus the first quarter as it relates to these challenges yeah so Chris look you know we have obviously paid very close attention what's going on in the global markets
spk07: and incorporated all the data points we need to. But quite honestly, we are not dwelling too much on what the market conditions are versus doubling down on our customers and our manufacturing strategy and our new product introduction. So I think it would be fair to say that we feel comfortable where we are in our journey and you know, despite the supply chain challenges, which in, you know, in many cases still, you know, we kind of go hand to mouth and then we make it the last couple weeks. In other cases, the supply chain has been flowing extremely well. Although our lead times are, you know, exactly where we want it to be, anywhere between six and seven weeks, you know, far, far greater than any competitor in the market. So we continue to take greater market share, balancing that with supply chain, balancing that with the macro economics here. What's going on is what you're hearing here in our tone, being a little bit more cautious. But, you know, I really don't see a reason why we would not maintain the level of performance we currently are talking about.
spk10: I also think one of the things that's offsetting of some of the issues that we're seeing in supply chain is what we're doing on the manufacturing and ops strategy that's continually opening up capacity and improving our processes, as well as moving around some of our production to the most efficient place for us to make product. So that's really going to help continue in the long term to drive margin as well.
spk04: Perfect. Thanks for taking my questions, and good to be on the call.
spk06: Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of Meg Dobre with Baird. Please proceed with your question.
spk02: Yes, thank you, and good morning, guys. I've got to admit, I'm a little bit confused as to all the moving pieces here and what's happening. I guess where I'd like to start is, Trish, you commented that You expected price cost to reach neutrality exiting Q2. That's what I heard. So if that's the case, then I guess that implies that price cost was negative in Q1. It will get better in Q2. So going back to the prior question that was asked here, how should we think about Q2 relative to Q1? Are things getting better or are things getting worse? And then if you catch up on price cost, what does that mean for margin in the back half of the year relative to 2021, right? Because, I mean, 2021 had its own set of challenges, especially late in the year, in the fourth quarter. So maybe we can start with some clarification there.
spk10: Yeah, so we are going to have price costs by the end of Q2. Demand is very strong. So as long as we're getting supply in for the orders that we need, we believe that we can drive a very strong Q2 as well. But there are some constraints there, as you know. Volume is really what is helping to drive margins as well. And we had a much higher Q1 than we anticipated on the volume side, which helps us get the tremendous leverage that we can to the margin level. And I think that we can continue to do that. I think what you're hearing is that there's just some unknowns there, and I don't think our unknowns are any different than anyone else's. But, you know, we've been fighting these challenges for quite a while, and I think Our results over the last eight quarters where we've outperformed have shown that we do a very good job in mitigating what those pressures are on us, and we will continue to do that not only in Q2 but throughout the rest of the year where in the back half we just have a little bit less visibility than we have right now.
spk02: Well, I mean, look, you're essentially saying that your margins are going to be flattish for the full year, right? You started the year in a hole, 60 basis points down in Q1. Obviously, it has to get better from here in order to get to that guidance. Presumably, the fourth quarter is where you have the biggest tailwind, right, because that's the easiest comparison. But is it fair for investors to expect flat or better year-over-year margin starting with Q2, or is this purely a second half of 22 occurrence based on your operating plan and what you know right now?
spk07: I think what would be fair is exactly what we said is, you know, as we see it right now, you know, we are taking a little bit more of a cautious stand. As we learn more, and we will certainly learn more over the next few weeks, that tone obviously could also change in a much more positive way. direction. We are not saying that the demand is dropping off. We're not saying that the margins are dropping off. What we're saying is clearly we don't have enough visibility yet in the second half. And once we get comfortable with all the data, we will communicate accordingly. So the transparency of our tone and our structure here is very important to understand.
spk06: I see.
spk02: Then maybe a question for you, Joseph. You highlighted the fact that demand is good. You're trying to be conservative with reiterating the guidance. I understand that. But when you're talking about evaluating risks for the back half of the year, can you give us a sense of what sort of risks you're talking about? Because as far as demand goes, everything you told us is that things are quite good. So what are some of the risks in your view that you're trying to balance here within the outlook?
spk07: Yes, certainly, Mick. So number one is obviously been China opening back up to its fullest. We are continuing to see strong demand. And, you know, just to give you a slight example, we had, you know, our Kunshan factory shut down for 10 days and folks were not even allowed to leave the building. The good news was they were able to operate and build belts. And the bad news is we couldn't ship it. and there has been slight indication that that could happen again. Now, our factory is fully open now, and we are shipping products, but shipping products at a lower rate as the ports are so backed up. So the whole China notion needs to get back on track to the extent that we can have a stronger data point and a lot more confidence in our ability to ship So that's number one. Number two is Europe. Yes, the orders are very strong. Where we get really cautious on is we have seen continuous increase in terms of pricing pressure on raw material. Supply chain has been relatively decent, but now we're seeing increase in energy costs. And until that works itself out of the system, this would be another data point. And the North American market has been very strong for us. You know, our lead time really drive a continuous market share gain. But every once in a while, we see a blip in our supply chain. So we just make, you know, to summarize, we don't want to get ahead of our skis and overcommit and underdeliver. And that's what you're hearing.
spk02: understood then if I may one last one and I know Jeff asked about pricing I'm gonna try this question again because if I look at your guidance even at the high end of revenue it would imply that growth for the rest of the year is somewhere around call it six seven percent and given what we're seeing in pricing pretty much across the end markets that you're serving and some of your peers and so on to me at least it would imply that there is very little volume growth that you're baking into the guidance for the subsequent quarters here and the lift that we're seeing is mostly price am I correct on that and if I am then why are we not seeing a little more volume coming through? Is it still supply chain or is it some other factor of conservatism?
spk05: Thank you. It's a couple things.
spk07: Number one, it is still a supply chain issue. On the other hand, we are also rebalancing our capacity to be able to absorb more more volume and more products, so to say, as the market share gain in some areas has come much quicker than actually anticipated. And a couple of years with supply chain challenges, we decided to add capacity in our Baja facility as well. So we are kind of undergoing a little bit of a transformation by adding more capacity and being able to
spk06: to ship that product. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
spk08: Our next question comes from the line of John Brotz with Kansas City Capital. Please proceed with your question.
spk03: Good morning, everyone. Good morning, John. Sort of continuing on that line of discussion, Joseph, when you look at maybe the volume for the second half of the year or for the last nine months, what end markets maybe concern you the most and might begin to be sort of a precursor to a change in the volume outlook as you look out towards the end of the year? What end markets are you most concerned about?
spk07: Yeah, so the concerning market, John, is the China construction market and, and China egg, egg markets. Those are the two markets that we're watching very closely just by the virtue of what is going on and, you know, with the still increased pandemic stages. But other than that, when we look at across our, you know, we watch this obviously very closely, but when I look at across of all of our other markets, they're all pretty much point with the green arrow up, um, So to answer your question, China Construction and China Ag is the one to be watching very closely.
spk03: Okay, okay, okay. Secondly, Trisha, you mentioned that the acquisition that you just announced yesterday, not really material, but I was reading about what they do, and it sort of sounds interesting. And two questions. Number one, can it become material material going forward? And number two, did they have sort of a lack of capital to really take their product line forward and that may be behind them now?
spk10: Yeah, they definitely can become material. And one of the benefits that we see from this is that it enables us to get further penetration into the hydraulic systems market and certainly with the applications that we have through both Faster and CBT, we believe that that business can grow pretty significantly. I don't think it was necessarily anything to do with their capital. I think they just saw the opportunity for it to be much bigger than it is by partnering up with someone like Helios that is a very strong hydraulic segment player. And the idea there is to make one plus one equal three or four or five.
spk03: Yeah. Dricia, how unique is their product line?
spk10: It's very unique. And it's different from other people in the industry. So it is more of a niche player in the swivel technology. They use a ballless swivel, which is, you know, Most of the industry does not use the ballless swivel, and they believe that this technology is a much better one and more sustainable, doesn't have to be replaced. There actually are some very good YouTube videos about their technology if you have some free time and would like to look at them, but it does help explain what their products do and why they're important, especially in certain industries like forestry.
spk03: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
spk10: Thanks, John.
spk08: As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from the line of Nathan Jones with Stiefel. Please proceed with your question.
spk01: Hi, good morning. This is Adam Farley on for Nathan.
spk05: Hey, Adam.
spk01: I wanted to turn to the electronics segment. You called out 11% headwind from supply chain. So what are the biggest issues there? I imagine it's mainly electronic components.
spk10: Yes, it's primarily electronic components. We have quite a few that come from the APEC region, and we're seeing a little bit of a slowdown there. But overall, I think in electronics, the supply chain has gotten better over time. And we are starting to see things free up, but then with the China shutdowns, they slowed down a little bit again. I think we have a pretty good handle on what's coming in and what the timing is of where it's going to be coming in.
spk01: Okay, and then in terms of the backlog within electronics, do you think your customers are overordering in an attempt to get in line? And if they are doing that, how do you manage your customer orders to avoid overordering?
spk10: I don't think they're overordering. Each of our businesses has a little bit different definition of backlog. In the Balboa business, we can see a little bit more of an order book than at innovation, where it tends to be a little bit shorter order book timeframe. We don't have any indication that they're over-ordering. If anything, they're still calling every day saying, when can I get my product? When can I get my product? We're doing our best to get the product out the door as quickly as we can. We did have significant past due in that segment at the end of the quarter. But it is improving over what we saw from a past due perspective at the end of the year because of some of the supply chain freeing up over the first quarter.
spk01: Okay, thanks for taking my questions.
spk05: Thanks, Adam.
spk08: Thank you. We have no further questions at this time. Ms. Almond, I would now like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.
spk09: Great, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We really appreciate your interest in Helios and look forward to updating you on our second quarter results in August. Please feel free to reach out to me with any follow-up questions. Have a great day, and please stay healthy.
spk08: Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a wonderful day.
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