Helios Technologies, Inc.

Welcome to the Helios Technologies first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. This morning, the company was having intermittent technical difficulties during the pre-testing on their phone lines. They have posted their prepared remarks on their website in case any issues arise with the sound quality of the call. It is now my pleasure to introduce Tanya Ullman, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Operator, and good day, everyone. Welcome to the Helios Technologies First Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. We issued a press release announcing our results yesterday afternoon. If you do not have that release, it is available on our website at hlio.com. You will also find slides there that will accompany our conversation today. On the line with me are Joseph Matasevich, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Tricia Fulton, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. They will spend the next several minutes reviewing our first quarter results, discussing our progress with our augmented strategy, reiterating our outlook for 2023, and then we will open the call to your questions. If you turn to slide 2, you will find our Safe Harbor Statement. As you may be aware, we will make some forward-looking statements during this presentation and the Q&A session. These statements apply to future events that are subject to risks and uncertainties, as well as other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from where we are today. These risks and uncertainties and other factors have been provided in our latest 10-K filing as well as our upcoming 10-Q to be filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. You can find these documents on our website or at fec.gov. I'll also point out that during today's call, we will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures which we believe are useful in evaluating our performance. You should not consider the presentation of this additional information in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. We have provided reconciliations of comparable GAAP with non-GAAP measures in the table that accompany today's slides. Please reference slides 3 and 4 now. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Joseph.

Tanya, thank you, and thanks to everyone on the line joining us. The vision we have laid out is really starting to come together. The Helios team continues to execute on our augmented strategy. Thank you to all the Helios colleagues for your tireless work and critical contribution in executing our shared vision. We started 2023 with strong top-line results. Our team delivered very good sequential revenue growth of 9%, including double digits from electronics coming off the fourth quarter. We are encouraged by the continued improvement we have seen in our health and wellness business over the last few months. We are protecting the business by achieving a sequential increase on our gross margin while navigating the macro environment, supply chain, and FX impact. We are proactively investing through operating expenses over the first half of this year. This will accelerate the integration of our augmented strategy to align our long-term cost structure as we continue this journey and prepare for the next wave of global growth. We view this investment as more of a step function in how it will play out through financials. There are several investment areas. First, following the acquisition and integration of several companies, we announced the opening of two new centers of excellence to be completed in Q3. This is part of the construction we are highlighting on slide four, currently taking place at Daemen, adding 50,000 square feet. We just turned the lights on and took down the temporary wall between the addition and existing building. We are also starting construction right next to our existing Balboa facility in Mexico to add 68,000 square feet. Second, we continue to do the work we previously outlined relating to our manufacturing and operating roadmap projects. We have several initiatives we will execute throughout 2023 and beyond that will drive efficiencies and improvements across the business. An example of this is moving targeted board assembly and wire harness production from Tulsa to Tijuana. In fact, we have been implementing these actions to increase capacity. New customer opportunities have been created midstream that we are responding and adjusting to. Third, we are happy to announce that we are moving to a regional organization structure for our hydraulics segment. After reaching a critical mass from the addition of several flywheel acquisitions, the time has come to adjust our structure to position us for the next wave of growth. A lot of time and planning has been invested to make this happen. For our new regional structure, Matteo Arturini, our longtime president of QRC, will have full oversight for the hydraulics in EMEA. Rick Matic, who has been our long-standing head of manufacturing and operations, was just promoted to president of hydraulics for the Americas. In December, Lee Wickluck joined Helios as the president of the electronics segment. Matteo, Rick, and Lee will work together to support our customers in APEC with our local leadership team in that region. We now have our updated structure in place that brings strong leadership, knowledge of our brands and customers, great team chemistry, and leaders who work extremely well together. We expect this new regional structure, the company's center of excellence, and our manufacturing and operating strategy to support growth well beyond our 1 billion total company milestones. We believe that time is right to make those important investments, which will have a short-term impact on our operating margins. We are executing to our full-year outlook with our manufacturing and operating strategy, driving productivity and efficiencies, protecting full-year margin and earnings while navigating a challenging operating environment. Now turning to slide five. last week we announced a definitive agreement to acquire i3 product development i3 has over 55 engineers with expertise in electronics mechanical industrial embedded and software engineering that will further diversify our end markets through their experience across medical off-highway recreational and commercial marine power sports health and wellness, ag, consumer goods, industrial and sports, and fitness. Innovation is the lifeblood of any successful organization. We expect the acquisition of i3 to turbocharge our efforts to be the most innovative company focused on the intersection of hydraulics and electronics. It will equip Helios with significant value-added professional services capabilities to solve customers' most complex needs and provide customization for Helios platforms and solutions. Their patented remote platform will provide support in the field for customers and their IoT devices. Over the 28-year history, i3 made a pivot in 2017 to broaden their focus to include cloud, connectivity, IoT, and electronics. Since that time, the growth has really taken off. It will be a powerful combination to apply the capabilities and expertise against the scale of the global Helios business as we approach $1 billion in annualized revenue. I3 fits perfectly into the telematics and data analytics roadmap we have been articulating for quite some time. Their culture is very aligned with ours. It is a rare opportunity to find a company of this caliber that provides top-notch engineering and software capabilities that will plug perfectly into our own roadmap vision. We are very pleased to welcome them to the Helios family. Now let me turn the call over to Tricia to review the financial results and reiterate our outlook. She will then hand it back to me for a few final comments. Tricia, please.

Thank you, Joseph, and hello, everyone. On slide 6 through 10, I will review our first quarter 2023 consolidated results. We saw strong sequential improvements coming off the fourth quarter. We had sequential growth on revenue, growth margin, and adjusted EBITDA while investing in our future. This gives us increasing confidence in how we see the rest of the year unfolding relative to our original expectations. Industrial and mobile markets realized double-digit percentage growth in the quarter over the year-ago period. Within these markets, there was growth in machinery, construction, material handling, specialty vehicles, power generation, oil and gas, forestry, and renewable energy. Agriculture demonstrated single-digit annual growth, while our health and wellness markets remained contracted compared to the year-ago period. but grew 36% sequentially. Our strong revenue growth over Q4-22 of 9% was driven by the electronics segment, which was up 17%, with the hydraulics segment up 5%. Year over year, hydraulics was up 8%, or 10% in constant currency, and electronics up 11%, excluding health and wellness over Q1-22. Geographically, we saw growth across all regions sequentially, led by EMEA with 15% growth, the Americas at 8%, and APAC at 4%. Over the year-ago period, revenues declined in all regions, reflecting lower demand, primarily in the health and wellness market. Overall, we had an unfavorable FX impact on revenue of $3.5 million in the quarter, compared with the first quarter of 22. Most of the FX impacts affect the hydraulic segment. Sequentially, gross profit grew 12% and gross margin increased 110 basis points over the fourth quarter, driven by higher volumes. As we would expect, on a year-over-year basis, the lower volumes impacted our gross profit. Gross margin compared with last year was impacted by reduced leverage on our fixed cost base on lower sales, and the margin profile of acquisitions, which were partially offset by favorable sales mix and the impact of price increases. Our SEA expenses increased 9% sequentially to $38.1 million. As Joseph outlined, we are making several important investments at this time, which drove that increase. Sequentially, adjusted EBITDA increased 10% and adjusted EBITDA margin was up 30 basis points over the fourth quarter levels. We continue to demonstrate we can provide top-tier margins through a challenging macro environment. We achieved this while investing in our future structure to leverage the multiplier effect of integrating our flywheel acquisitions. Our effective tax rate in the first quarter was 22.8% compared to 22.4% in the prior year period, reflecting levels of income in domestic versus international tax jurisdictions. Diluted non-GAAP cash EPS of 72 cents on the quarter reflects higher interest expenses compared with last year of 6 cents and a 4 cent impact for FX. Slides 9 and 10 provide visual trends on overall key metrics for the past several quarters. We estimate that supply chain constraints delayed $12.4 million in sales this quarter, relatively flat sequentially, and down from $17.6 million in the year-ago period. The coil shortage we discussed last quarter in hydraulics has slightly improved. However, this quarter we experienced part shortages as well as some outplant processing delays. This quarter revealed an inflection point in our electronics segment, with absolute revenue dollars growing sequentially for the first time since Q1 2022. As you know, the softness we experienced in the health and wellness market coming off the boom cycle in 2021 was the driver of that decline. We remain cautiously optimistic this can become a sustainable trend throughout the rest of the year. As we said last quarter, we believe the health and wellness market may have bottomed out and we are starting to see the signs of recovery in our 2023 results. On slide 11, you will find the highlights for our first quarter hydraulic segment. Sales grew 10% on a constant currency basis over the prior year period and the unfavorable FX impact was $3.3 million. Acquisitions added $13.7 million. Sequentially, this segment grew 5% over Q4 22. The hydraulic segment gross profit increased $1.4 million, or 3% sequentially over Q4 22. Compared with the prior year period, compression in profit dollars was primarily due to material price increases unfavorable FX of $0.8 million, and restructuring costs of $0.7 million. The growth margin this quarter compared with Q1-22 reflects higher material and energy costs for which margin was not fully recovered by pricing efforts, as well as a different margin profile of our recent acquisition. SEA expenses increased by $2.8 million or 15% year-over-year and increased 90 basis points to 14.9% of sales. The increases were driven by acquisitions as well as the investments we outlined related to the company's strategy. Please turn to slide 12 for a view of our electronics segment. This segment is more concentrated in the U.S., so cryptocurrency had only a minor impact of $0.2 million on revenue for the quarter. Electronics sales decreased over the prior year period by 37% to 65.5 million, with demand across all regions declining, as mentioned, due primarily to the contraction of the health and wellness market. When excluding the health and wellness market, the electronics segment grew 11% over Q1 2022. And market demand was driven by industrial and mobile markets. Sequentially, as mentioned, we saw very strong growth in this segment. The electronic segment gross profit of $21 million grew 44% sequentially over Q4-22, with gross margin expanding 590 basis points. Year over year, the gross profit dollars reflect a slowdown in the health and wellness market. The gross margin increased 40 basis points over the Q1-22 level, driven by a favorable sales mix. SEA expenses were managed and declined sequentially 3% over the Q4-22 level. Please turn to slide 13 for a view of our cash flow. We had solid cash flow generation. In Q1, we generated $12.3 million in cash from operations. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $36.3 million, up 10% over the year-ago period. CapEx came in at 4% of sales for the quarter, in line with our expectations to support our strategic investments for future growth, as Joseph outlined on slide 4. And we recently paid our 105th sequential quarterly cash dividend. Free cash flow was $72.1 million on a trailing 12-month basis, with a conversion rate of 88%, compared with 79% for the full year of 2022. You can see on slide 14 that we have a solid balance sheet and financial flexibility to execute our strategy for growth. Total liquidity at the end of the quarter was $91 million. Our net debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio was 2.5 times, reflecting the acquisition of Schultes. The estimate pro forma for our recently announced I3 flywheel acquisition Our net debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage ratio will be approximately 2.6 times. As a part of that transaction, a good portion of the deal consideration will be paid in Helios equity to align the talented engineering resources with the long-term success of our combined strategy. As you know, we have a well-established track record of managing our leverage ratio as we execute on our acquisition strategy. As we increase above our target level for recent acquisitions, we have been able to quickly deleverage back to or below our target leverage ratio of two times based on our cash generation. Turning to our 2023 outlook, please reference slides 15 to 17. We are reiterating our outlook for growing revenues to between $910 million to $940 million this year. That would imply 3% to 6% annual growth over 2022 and over 20% growth compounded over the last three years since 2020. We continue to expect to be able to reach our $1 billion revenue milestone with top tier margins on a run rate basis ending the fourth quarter of 2023. Based on our strong sequential revenue growth in the first quarter, we now estimate our first half to second half revenue split to approximate 47% to 53% respectively. With the timing of the investments we outlined and the higher revenues in the back half of the year, we expect approximately a 100 to 250 basis point sequential improvement on EBITDA margins as we work toward our year-end run rate target. Importantly, we still see a path to deliver our original target set at our last investor day to achieve a three-year CAGR of approximately 22% growth in non-GAAP cash EPS at the midpoint of our expected range for 2023 of $3.95 to $4.10 per share. I would like to hand it back over to Joseph for some closing comments before we take your questions.

Thank you so much, Tricia. We are off to a solid start in 2023. We continue to build on the strong foundation we established over the last few years by executing the augmented strategy we laid out. We remain focused on being an industry leader in innovation and providing our customers the attention and dedication they have come to expect. We continue to acquire high-quality portfolio flywheel acquisitions that advance our technologies with industry-leading products and solutions. We are making significant progress implementing our manufacturing and operating strategy as we diversify revenues and markets while protecting our business and margins, all which has accelerated our growth. So as we progress into 2023, our vision and goals remain unchanged. We believe we can protect the business, cash flow and earnings, and that the Helios business system will continue to provide the structure and discipline to execute our long-term plans. Through our organic and acquired innovations, we have created a pure play hydraulics and electronics business that will continue to drive shareholder value well into the future. With that, let's open up the lines for Q&A, please.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask your question, you may press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing this button. Our first question comes from the line of Jeff Hammond, with KeyBank Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning, Jeff. Hi, Jeff.

Good morning.

Yeah, it was just, is there a way to quantify kind of the one-time investments or operating expenses in 1Q and what that looks like in the 2Q? And then just maybe unpack a little bit more the cadence of margin improvement. You know, you did 20 this quarter. I think your exit run rate's 25. Just, you know, how do we get there? Thanks.

Yeah. Morning, Jeff. You know, when we looked at the acquired companies, and in particular the last two, they went really smoothly and happened pretty swiftly, pretty nicely. So with everything we have going on, in terms of integration, in terms of investing into capacity. Those capacity investments are not done for waiting for the sales to come. They're really done methodical anticipating and having some line of sight that orders are underway, so to say. So very similar approach to what we have done end of 2020 into 2021, proactively invest into our future and really setting up the lines in the right way in terms of material flow, getting some more people in that we need, and having a short-term dual manufacturing between Sun and Damien here so the transition goes very smoothly. So all in, that investment pull ahead into Q1 is just roughly around $2 million. And we anticipate once we're up and running, obviously, that step function in terms of margin to improve quarter over quarter.

Okay.

And then just in health and wellness, can you just talk about what's driving the bounce and confidence in the inflection? Is this simply destocking behind us or is there some new wins in there? Maybe just a little more color effects.

Yeah, look, we said last time, Jeff, that we started to get a sense for the business has stabilized. You know, we have spent a lot of time boots on the ground with customers, dealers, distributors, you name it, shows. And, you know, we are continuing to see a positive trend in the right direction now for good three, four months now. So, you know, we don't see any stocking per se. to the new orders, and the inventory levels are starting to come down. So we are cautious in communicating our message, but it's clearly, the trend is clearly going in the right direction.

Okay, and then just, if I could sneak in the last one. It seems like a lot of companies are talking about supply chain improvements, kind of abatement of friction costs around spot buys for electronics, expedited freight. Seems like you guys are still seeing some challenges. Maybe just give us line of sight to when you think you'll start to see some normalization on supply chain.

We have already seen some normalization across specifically electronics. There are a few things that we're still having issues getting either on a timely basis or in the quantities that we need them. But for the most part, We are seeing improvement, and we're starting to see a little bit of cost down as well. I think our teams are doing a very good job in being able to look across our supplier base globally and finding the best place to procure the parts. I think you saw that the amount of sales that was being held back by supply chain, especially on electronics, came down this quarter, so we're encouraged by that.

Okay, thanks so much. Thanks, Jeff.

Our next question comes from the line of Chris Moore with CJS Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking a couple questions. Maybe go back to good morning, some of Joseph's prepared remarks on the new regional structure for hydraulics and, you know, kind of just talk a little bit more about how that fits into the strategy going forward.

Sure, Chris. Good morning to you. Thanks for joining us as well. Look, this is, again, a part of our well-laid-out journey that we're communicating in our last Investor Day. We said when we get to a point, we needed to have a sharper focus on our leverage. We have a well-established team within Our FASTA group, we invested significantly, not just in capacity or manufacturing operations, but also talent. Those proactive investments were done to support the upcoming regional structure. So what you're going to see here is one team cutting across the European region and Middle East. to really just drive leverage, common, consistent processes, systems. Customers are very much informed and aligned and supportive over that journey. So just a higher level, Chris, of discipline, speed, and focus to executing against our vision.

I think this also flows in very well with what we've been talking about in the region, for the region, for quite a while. We've now gotten to the critical mass within each of the regions, given some of the acquisitions that we made over the last few years that really give us the ability to bring that to the forefront and be able to best utilize the capacity and resources that we have in each region.

Got it. I appreciate that. And maybe just switch gears a little bit, but can you talk a little bit about the energy and rollout, kind of the expectations for the balance of 23 and Are there specific milestones that you're thinking about?

Yeah, we're still looking at the testing that we're doing with a few of the customers specifically on Energen, and we're getting feedback that there's some good opportunities for it, but we do still have more testing that we need to do before we can roll that out on a larger scale. I think we do anticipate that we're going to get some revenue in 2023 out of that, but it's probably not going to be material this year, but it's setting us up very well to roll that out broader, probably into 24.

Got it. I appreciate it. I will leave it there. Thanks, guys.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Big Dobry with Robert W. Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you and good morning everyone. Can we put a finer point on your expectations for the electronics segment? Maybe give us a sense here as to how you envision revenue progressing first half, second half, what's embedded in your outlook and you know, what you've seen in Q1 versus your initial expectations when you first issued this guidance.

Tricia will get into the numbers. She's pulling it up right now, but in the meantime, good morning to you. You know, probably the biggest change was the consistent improvement trend in the health and wellness. We still anticipated some spotty order trend, but it has been really encouraging to see that it's going the right direction. And then the second part, we anticipated actually, and it's going exactly according to plan, in some cases better than plan, is that continuous strength within our innovation business that's really going on. in a nice direction, largely driven based on our new product investments we have done over the last two or three years. Orders are flowing. They're coming. There's no cancellation. Team is performing extremely well. And having now the balance between U.S. manufacturing and Tijuana gives us additional uplift on the margin, and the journey will continue. over the next 12 to 18 months as we fully capitalize on this low-cost footprint we are investing in with the second factory now.

With regard to the first half second half part of your question, we're looking at a very similar breakout to what we see on a consolidated basis of the 4753. That is expecting a little bit of a pickup as we roll through the quarters sequentially on the Alboa business. And it includes some of the rollouts that we're continuing to have on the innovation side as well for the new products that are coming out.

You know, I'm not here as your... Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like the... assumption here is that revenue ramps sequentially by, call it, $10 million relative to Q1, and then that you're going to get to somewhere around that $80 million run rate for the back half in electronics. And look, I mean, there's just been so much variation in this segment that I'm just trying to make sure that we all level set expectations and we understand what you guys are thinking. I mean, please confirm if I'm wrong, but if that's correct, it would look to me like the $80 million run rate would not really be all that far from where we were in 2021. So implicitly, the health and wellness market, how do you think is going to progress in 23? And what's the exit run rate into 24? Sorry, there is a lot with that question.

I was going to say, is there a question in there? Just kidding. I think that your 80 number from a run rate perspective for all of electronics by the time we're rolling out to Q4 seems very reasonable. I don't know that we want to necessarily break that down quite yet for health and wellness. We're still trying to see where the market's going and how quickly this is going to pick up. We are seeing that orders are picking up every month on an overall basis, but we probably still aren't quite to where we want to be to be able to break that out a little bit more specifically.

And Meg, when we initially put our guidance together of the 910 to 940, we had made some assumptions and pretty conservative ones around what health and wellness might do in the year. So we assumed could potentially go back to pre-acquisition levels and then kind of had a band of assumptions above and below that. And so I think we felt like we started the year from a pretty conservative place.

Okay. I guess my final question, Go into hydraulics. On the slides, you're making some comments on price cost that you haven't really been able to recover some of this cost inflation with your pricing. And, you know, given the fact that your lead times are relatively low, you don't really run with a ton of backlog, I'm sort of curious as to why you're still seeing this lag and how do you expect to manage that going forward?

Yeah, we're very close to even on the price-cost part on the hydraulics piece, but there's still some things that are, from an inflationary perspective, hitting us probably a little bit more than we expected. Energy cost continues to be one of those. Logistics continues to be one of those as well. We also have a lot going on in that segment right now. looking at the centers of excellence that we're rolling out this new regional strategy. And we do anticipate that we're going to see growth from both of those things, but those are going to happen more in the back half of the year. So that's really where we're going to start to get the leverage.

And a big part of this, Mig, is every time, you know, to be super transparent here, you know, we are adding significant amount of capacity in Ed Damon and moving pretty much entire manifold operation, so to say, from one state to another. And after done so many of them in the past, eventually you learn how to do them well. So this one has to go right, has to go well. It's going extremely exactly according to plan, so there's a little bit of proactive investment here to assure once it's done, it's done right, and we can come out of the gate swinging as this business or the daemon business will go in almost triple overnight once we are complete in terms of revenue. So you see some of the costs buried into that, but once that is behind us in the operational, that's going to go away.

I appreciate that. I guess my question was really more on a pricing side.

Got it.

There's sort of one thing that we're hearing consistently from companies is that pricing power has been significant, and many of them are more than fully caught up on a price-to-cost basis. So historically in hydraulics, you have enjoyed good pricing power. Right. Again, I'm wondering if anything changed here given the lag.

No, nothing's changed. We did put through pricing in the beginning of the year on the CBT side, or at least on the Sun side of CBT. Sometimes there are restrictions on when we can look at pricing on the OEM side for FASTER specifically.

Okay, thank you. Thank you, Meg. Our next question comes from the line of Nathan Jones with Stiefel.

Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. This is Adam Farley on for Nathan. I wanted to start with the hydraulics top line. I appreciate the color you gave and the prepared remarks, but could you maybe give a little more detail on which end markets and regions are showing the most strength, and are you seeing any weakness in any areas?

Yeah, so on the hydraulics side here, you know, when we look at on the QRC side or CVT side, you know, the areas that continue to be relatively strong are the construction side, the ag side, you know, the general industrial piece. General mobile piece continues to be strong. Balanced more is still our international businesses in China. There is still kind of a mixed bag since they're just open. U.S. construction overall remains to be good. Not great, but good. European construction is going well. So overall, it is pretty stable on our end, as we can see right now.

Okay, thank you for taking my question. Thanks, Adam.

As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, it is star one to ask your question. Our next question comes from the line of John Bratz with Kansas City Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, everyone.

Good morning, John.

Joseph, I know it's small, but I had a couple questions about the i3 acquisition. You used the term turbocharge, and you also talked about how the growth of the company has really accelerated since 2017. I guess I'm trying to understand how you will use this business, and maybe to an extent, if you had this business three years ago, what would you have been able to do with it? And I'm trying to get to a sense of maybe the opportunities that, the new opportunities that may be in front of you with this acquisition.

Yeah. Boy, John, I tell you, I really appreciate that question. This is, you know, this is really a special one that we've been looking for, quite honestly, from day number one, not just from a cultural and talent standpoint, but as you heard me for quite some time now about you know our closing our product gap and and being able to start switching over to a gated system sale and eventually you guys heard me talk about you know telematic application and having software embedded into our into our technology, those guys do exactly that. This was kind of the missing piece that we can build upon throughout our entire company, but at the same time, it provides us a vehicle to really now being able to compete as a pure play hydraulics and electronics and have that foothold Into the customer base we have been talking about for a couple years now so the turbocharged comment came in as as we needed to figure out how do we Not just gets back then but how do we provide the necessary information and data? That the customers needed and at some point of time have a recurring revenue stream, that is kind of the entry point for us to get us to this point. We're going to invest in that company and continue to build out that IoT application that we need. Secondly, also plug it into their markets where they are really strong with our brand. Yes, it's smaller scale on the revenue side, but it's one of those things, John, you plug in the right foundation and start building out the walls and the roof, you've got a pretty nice house at the end of the day. So we are really excited about that.

So, Joseph, is it more of an OEM relationship type of business?

Pretty much, yes. So primary driven and OEMs. Okay.

All right. Thank you very much. You bet. Thank you.

If there are no further questions in the queue, I'd like to hand the call back to management for closing remarks.

Great. Thank you, Operator, and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Helios, and we look forward to seeing you out and about at a number of different investor conferences that we'll be participating in through the quarter. We look forward to updating you on our second quarter results in August. Please feel free to reach out to me with any follow-up questions, and have a great day. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.