Helix Energy Solutions Group, Inc.

Q2 2021 Earnings Conference Call

7/27/2021

spk09: Greetings and welcome to the Helix Energy Solutions second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question and answer session. At that time, if you would like to register for a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. If you require operator assistance, please press star 0. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Tuesday, July 27, 2021. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Eric Staffel, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer with Helix Energy Solutions. Please go ahead, sir.
spk07: Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today on our conference call for our second quarter 2021 earnings release. Participating on this call for Helix today are Owen Kratz, our CEO, Scotty Sparks, our COO, Ken Nykerk, our general counsel, and myself. Hopefully you've had an opportunity to review our press release and the related slide presentation released last night. If you do not have a copy of these materials, both can be accessed through the For the Investor page on our website at www.helixesg.com. The press release can be accessed under the Press Releases tab and the slide presentation can be accessed by clicking on today's webcast icon. Before we begin our prepared remarks, Ken Nykerk will make a statement regarding forward-looking information. Ken?
spk11: During this conference call, we anticipate making certain projections and forward-looking statements based on our current expectations. All statements in this conference call or in the associated presentation, other than statements of historical fact, are forward-looking statements and are made under the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Our actual future results may differ materially from our projections and forward-looking statements due to a number and variety of factors, including those set forth in slide two in our most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K and in our other filings with the SEC. Also during this call, certain non-GAAP financial disclosures may be made. In accordance with SEC rules, the final slide of our presentation provides reconciliations of certain non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP financial measures. These reconciliations, along with this presentation, the earnings press release, our annual report, and a replay of this broadcast are available under the For the Investor page of our website at www.helixesg.com. Owen?
spk05: Good morning. We hope everyone out there and the families are doing well, healthy, and staying safe. This morning, we'll review our Q2 and year-to-date performance, our operations, our view of the current market dynamics, and provide our outlook for the balance of 2021. Moving to the presentation, slides five through seven provide a high level summary of our results. Our performance for the quarter and year to date continues to be in line with expectations as our teams continue to execute at high levels of operability. The Q7000 continued successful operations in West Africa. North Sea intervention activity increased in tandem with good weather season. The well enhancer achieved good utilization. The seawell was activated late Q2 for a brief project. Gulf of Mexico intervention, while generally soft, exited the quarter with both vessels working. In Brazil, both vessels worked the entire quarter. Robotics benefited from the good weather season with increased activity in trenching and site clearance work. Production facilities benefited from the new HWCG agreement for response services. During the quarter, we completed production enhancement efforts on the droski field with expected benefit in the second half of the year. Our results for the second quarter of 2021 were slightly down compared to our results for the first quarter of 2021. Revenues were reported $162 million with a net loss of $14 million and EBITDA of $25 million. Our gross profit was $3 million, or 2%. On slide 8, from a balance sheet perspective, our cash balance at the end of the quarter was $244 million, with an additional $71 million in temporarily restricted cash associated with a short-term LC for our work in West Africa. During the second quarter, we generated $53 million of operating cash flows and spent $5 million on CapEx. with resulting free cash flow of $47 million. Year-to-date, we've generated $93 million of operating cash flow and $86 million of free cash flow. Our net debt at the end of the quarter was $21 million, and our net debt-to-book capital was 1%. I'll now turn the call over to Scotty for an in-depth discussion of our operating results.
spk08: Thanks, Owen, and good morning, everyone. Moving on to slide 10. We continue to operate all of our business lines for a challenging year with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. Both onshore and offshore, our teams and partners are doing an incredible job and continuously adapt to situations I presented. We've now reopened the office to all staff in our Houston headquarters and support base, and our offices and facilities in Aberdeen, Scotland. Safety measures and protocols have been put in place that are designed to allow safe access to work in these locations. Our offices still remain closed in Rio and Singapore, and the teams in those locations effectively working remotely. The COVID-19 pandemic still presents many logistical challenges, including travel restrictions, quarantines, testing and screening personnel over 18,000 times to date, and we continue to successfully transport personnel to our work sites globally. Testing is more easily available, and the vaccine rollout is aiding the situation, and in certain locations, some travel and quarantine restrictions are being eased or removed. In the second quarter, we continued to operate 11 vessels globally with minimal operational disruption despite the logistical challenges, continually operating at high standards with 98.5% uptown efficiency. Our personnel produced some of our best safety statistics since our records began, concluding the quarter matching our lowest total recordable incident rates, emphasizing our strong supportive safety culture and leadership. Over to slide 11. During the second quarter, we produced revenues of $162 million, resulting in a gross profit margin of 2%, producing a gross profit of $3 million, compared to $163 million revenue and $15 million gross profit in the first quarter, producing EBITDA for the second quarter of $25 million. In the second quarter, the Well Intervention Fleet achieved utilization of 72% globally, with 100% utilization in Brazil and 58% utilization in the Gulf of Mexico, and 63% utilization in the North Sea and West Africa. The robotics-chartered vessel fleet achieved 93% globally. In the Gulf of Mexico, we had both the Q4000 and the Q5000 working and operational with some schedule gaps between projects. In the North Sea, the Lernhancer was operational for most of the quarter, and the SeaWorld was activated to undertake a brief project prior to returning to warm stack mode. In the West Africa region, the Q7000 worked in Nigeria for two clients, undertaking production enhancement works with strong operational uptime. Operating performance in Brazil was at their usual high standards, where both vessels achieved high utilization of 100% undertaken abandonment activity. The robotics-chartered vessel fleet achieved high utilization in the quarter, working between ROV support, trenching, and renewable works globally. completing 236 days, with 157 days of work undertaken on renewable-related green projects. Slide 12 provides a more detailed review of our operations for our well intervention business in the Gulf of Mexico. The Q5000 had 72% utilization, continuing under contract for BP until mid-April, then undertaking a production enhancement scope on our Droski well. The vessel completed two construction support scopes and commenced a production enhancement scope for another client in the quarter with some scheduled gaps between projects. The Q4000 had 45% utilization, incurring idle time between projects, completing construction support work for one client, performed a production enhancement scope in ultra-deep water for another client, and then mobilized for a two-whale campaign for another client. Both Q vessels have an integrated Helix-LumJ Alliance single-point contract mechanism allowing for easier contracting for our clients, with both teams integrated and working very well as one complete team. Pleasingly, both vessels have contracted work in Q3 with some gaps between projects. We've contracted and awarded works in Q4, and visibility for potential further activity in Q4 and into 2022. Moving to slide 13. Our North Sea Well intervention business continues to be most affected by reduced work opportunities related to COVID due to the extended lockdown in the United Kingdom leading to the continued warm stacking of the sea well. The well enhancer had a good quarter and achieved 83% utilization in Q2, working for two clients in the quarter, including completing four production enhancement scopes for one client, followed by one production enhancement scope for the other client. The vessel is contracted to work into Q3 and has visibility of potential further works. The sea whale remained warm-stack in Leith, Scotland, with significantly reduced costs and reduced cruise for most of the quarter. The vessel was activated for a short period, undertaking a production enhancement work on three whales for one client, then returning to warm-stack mode. The vessel currently has contracted work with three clients commencing early August, scheduled until the end of Q3. The Q7000 had a strong performing quarter in Q2. The vessel performed extremely well, working with a multinational integrated Helix-Slamaday Alliance team. The vessel worked on three wells in the quarter for two clients and now has contracted work in Nigeria into Q4 with potential further works identified. Moving on to slide 14. In Brazil, both vessels achieved strong utilization in the second quarter. The Seam Helix 1 had 100% utilization in Q2 and completed abandonment work on four wells. Although we remain in discussions with Petrobras regarding the Seam Helix 1, the current schedule for work The current schedule has work completing in mid-August. Our focus is on pursuing other works for the vessel in Brazil and other markets internationally. The Seam Helix 2 had 100% utilization and completed abandonment work on three wells for the quarter. Our discussions regarding the Seam Helix 1 will inform the approach and the outlook for the Seam Helix 2, which is under contract into December. Moving on to slide 15 for our robotics review. Robotics had another good quarter and is having another good year in 2021, operating three vessels during the quarter, primarily working non-oil and gas and renewables-related projects. In the APEC region, the Grand Canyon II had 100% utilization in Q2, performing works on a renewable energy project in Taiwan. The vessel is now contracted in Thailand, undertaking a decommissioning project that is expected to continue through most of 2021. In the North Sea, the Grand Canyon III was utilized 93%, undertaking renewables trenching for two clients. The vessel has contracted oil and gas and renewable trenching scopes, utilizing the vessel for most of 2021. The chartered vessel, Sator, continued site clearance and survey works for 61 days on a wind farm project. The Sator has now been replaced by another vessel, the Vos Suites, which should continue work on the project that is now expected to last into Q4. In the Gulf of Mexico, ROV activity remains strong, and we continue to market the Shia borderline as our pay-as-we-go vessel going forward this year. We've now commenced mobilisation of a further spot vessel, the CM Dorado, and are contracted on a cable installation project on our first work offshore, Guyana. The robotics group continues its transition further into green and renewables sector, adding new clients and more services. We've recently been contracted to undertake a further site clearance and survey project, and recently been awarded another UXO clearance and detonation scope. Both projects are slated to commence in 2021. We have also recently been awarded further significant and sizable renewable trenching works in 2022 and 2023. Over to slide 16. I'll leave this slide detailed on the vessels, ROV and trenching utilization for your reference. Before I turn the call over to Eric, I would again like to thank our Helix Global team, our offshore personnel, our onshore personnel and our partners for continuing to evolve and doing a fantastic job under these challenging circumstances. It's also great to see our personnel return and have our teams here back working in the office, tackling these challenges in this market face to face rather than screen to screen.
spk07: Thanks, Scotty, and good morning. Moving to slide 18, it outlines our debt instruments and the maturity profile at June 30th. Our total funded debt is $346 million at the end of Q2. We have $32 million of scheduled principal payments in the second half of the year. Moving on to slide 19, This provides an update on key balance sheet metrics, including long-term debt and net debt levels at year-end and June 30th. With $350 million of cash and restricted cash as of June 30th, our net debt approximated $21 million at the end of the quarter. Our long-term debt balance and net debt balance at June 30th reflect the early adoption of the ASU 2020-06, which simplified the accounting treatment of our convertible notes. Our cash position at the end of Q2 was $242. $4 million with an additional $71 million of restricted cash that supports a temporary project LC. Our quarter end net debt to book capitalization was 1%. Moving to slides 20 through 24, we continue to operate in a challenging market. Our customers continue to be cautious in committing to spending in 2021. The current relatively stable macro backdrop has increased customer dialogue and interest, but has been slow to develop into firm orders. The positive developments globally and within our sector are providing a positive foundation for recovery in our markets, but primarily beyond 2021. We have made slight updates to our Q1 guidance. Our guidance is a good faith attempt to provide investors information that is appropriately caveated as best we can against the backdrop of the current environment. Our guidance for 2021 is as follows. Revenues in the 600 to 670 million range EBITDA, 75 to 100 million. Free cash flow of 45 to 90 million. Our EBITDA outlook is based on the following. Beyond Q2, we anticipate working six well intervention vessels in the spot market where visibility is currently limited. We expect visibility and utilization will be on a quarter to quarter basis. In the Gulf of Mexico well intervention business, both vessels will likely be in the spot market for the remainder of the year with expected gaps in projects, between projects. We generally expect lower levels of activity in 2021 compared to 2020. In the North Sea well intervention business, we expect both vessels to be working in the third quarter with expected gaps in their schedules. Work will likely taper off during the winter months. In Brazil, the CM Helix II is on contract into December. The CM Helix I is expected to complete its extension period in August. Beyond that, its outlook is uncertain. In West Africa, we expect to work the Q7000 into Q4 with possibilities thereafter. Robotics may benefit from the active several months in the North Sea. Overall, robotics may have a weaker year compared with 2020, with less site clearance work, but overall continues to be a steady performer. Production facilities should benefit from the Droske production in our agreement with the HWCG. We have made slight increases to the upper range of our cash flow forecast. Our free cash flow outlook is supported by the strong year-to-date cash generation. and highlights both the challenges and the range of possibilities during the second half of the year. The range provided acknowledges the expected range of our second half EBITDA and the range of our annual capital spending of 20 to 35 million. The range also accounts for potential delay in the remaining approximate 12 million of CARES Act tax refund. Working capital is assumed to be flat for the year in anticipation of working capital requirements to support 2022 activity. Providing a bit more color to our key assumptions by segment and region on slide 23, first with our well intervention segment, Gulf of Mexico, the Q5 and Q4 both have contracted work in the third and fourth quarters. We are targeting additional opportunities, but do expect gaps in their schedules. In the UK North Sea, the Weld Hancher and Seawall have contracted work into Q3. The Q7000 commenced operations in late January with contracted work in West Africa expected to last into Q4. In Brazil, the CM Helix II is in contract December. The CM Helix I is expected to complete its extension in August. Beyond that, outlook is uncertain. The vessel is expected to be out of service and unavailable with a dry dock schedule of approximately 40 days between Q3 and Q4. Moving to our robotic segment, Site 24, robotic second half of the year is expected to be stronger than the first half of the year. The Grand Canyon II and APAC is on contract in Thailand into Q4 and is expected to have strong utilization for the balance of 2021 in that region. The Grand Canyon III is contracted to be performing trenching in the North Sea with expected strong utilization into Q4. The follow-on wind farm survey and site clearance work began at the end of Q1 and has additional recent awards. Moving to production facilities, the HP-1 is on contract with no expected change. In Q2, the new HWCG agreement became effective. We also expect to benefit from Drosky production enhancement. Continuing to slide 25, our CAPEX forecast range is 20 to 35 million. The majority of our CapEx forecast is maintenance and project related. It also includes the production enhancement opportunities that Droschke completed in April. Reviewing our balance sheet, our funded debt decreased to $346 million with an additional $32 million decrease expected during the balance of 2021 as a result of scheduled principal payments. Our cash position at the end of Q2 was $244 million. Once again, this does not include $71 million of restricted cash that supports a temporary Project LC. We received $7 million tax refund in Q1 and anticipate the additional $12 million of CARES Act refund over the next 12 months as a result of tax changes. I'll skip slide 27 and leave it for your reference. This time I'll turn the call back to Owen for his closing comments.
spk05: Thanks, Eric. First, let me start with some comments on the market in general, then I'll touch on some early observations about 2022 and finish with the Helix outlook for the second half of 2021. Some comments. We were expecting 2021 to be another challenging year, and it has not proven us wrong. I'd characterize it as a market in the early stages of an economic recovery. For whatever the reasons, from virtual fatigue from producers working at home as a result of COVID response, to reallocation of capital to renewables, or the threat of OPEC and production increases, the volume of work in 2021 has only increased marginally over 2020. Almost every asset class continues to be in meaningful oversupply and consolidations, while beginning have not had a meaningful impact. Helix vessel services have always been compared with rigged day rates, and that continues to be the case. In the current environment, more than ever, we need to demonstrate our value proposition. The rig market is getting tighter, and this is starting to drive work our way. However, rig contracts now are typically short one or two well spot contracts, leaving short gaps in the rig schedules. As opposed to larger gaps between longer contracts, this leaves the rigs in operating mode. Some rig operators are taking on intervention work to fill these short gaps at a lose-less kind of rate versus laying up. We missed this phenomena, identifying it earlier in the year, in price to a tighter market. This cost us several significant awards. As always, we look for lessons learned, and we have made adjustments since then. At present, about 60% of our world work is intervention for production enhancement and 40% P&A. For decades, P&A expectations have exceeded reality, as there always seems to be a way for producers to defer this zero-revenue work. It is early, but we're seeing the regulators in the Gulf of Mexico become less willing to grant deferment. In the North Sea, we're seeing a public push for abandonment of fields to occur even if there's little push from regulators. This is especially true of the new operators. In Australia, the fields are becoming very mature. After a significant bankruptcy that resulted in an abandonment liability going to the government, there's mounting pressure to increase abandonment activity. These are observations highlighting the regulatory and environmental and social trends that are prevalent in our market and are clear indicators of significant opportunities Our services and capabilities are well positioned for when the work is no longer deferred. We did expect to see a marked increase in production enhancement efforts this year. While there's been a slight tick and plenty of talk, for whatever reason, a meaningful increase has yet to occur. In the Gulf of Mexico, we had little visibility for work at the start of the year. Fairly recently, there are last-minute works being requested and planned. We're seeing a meaningful increase of work being planned or at least discussed for 2022. We're anticipating a stronger two-vessel market in the Gulf of Mexico for 2022. The North Sea historically has been the first region to decline in a downturn and the first to recover. This cycle has been an exception. Actual work and visibility on future work for production enhancement has been lacking. We believe there's meaningful buildup of needed work but so far little is actually being engineered. However, we do anticipate a stronger year in 22 and 23 in the UK. We previously announced our first contract in Australia with plans to build a campaign based on additional contracts. That work was recently deferred and is now under consideration for 2023. We do believe there is a market in Australia based on P&A that can support the full-time presence of a riser-based intervention vessel. We're tendering for work there in 2022, but our expectations for 2022 are uncertain at this time. West Africa has been a positive market for us in 2021, for our Q7000 vessel after a COVID interruption in 2020. Our initial expectations for this market was for a partial year campaign every other year. With just the initial customers we targeted, the Q7000 began its 2021 campaign in January and is expected to remain utilized in West Africa into November. There are ongoing discussions for additional campaign possibly starting as early as January. With a successful initial year, there's additional producers now indicating interest. We may have underestimated the demand potential of this market. This is creating options as we consider our fleet deployment going forward, which brings us to our greatest challenge, which is Brazil. Helix has worked closely with Petrobras over the past seven years in a number of ways, from stepping up when they found themselves needing additional intervention vessels to providing various commercial accommodations along the way. From the beginning, Helix has approached our relationship as a long-term collaboration. And I'm confident we've delivered operational excellence as evidenced by being their number one and number two vessels in the Petrobras fleet for most of the past years. We've previously acknowledged and communicated that this environmental long-term contracting would be a challenge for operators, and that has borne itself out. However, recently, Petrobras has gone largely quiet on their future plans. They've been a solid customer for us and I wouldn't rule out continuing to work for Petrobras, but our plan going forward will be to pursue other alternatives given the options for fleet deployment that I've mentioned. This may result in 2022 being a challenging year, but ultimately may be the preferred direction to move toward. Looking a little more near term, we've kept our 2021 guidance at 75 to 100 million, This may be a bit of a wide range, but it's warranted. We are fairly confident about our results expected for Q3, but Q4 has a number of variabilities. The utilization for Q4 for the Well Ops UK vessels will depend on the potential award of a significant contract yet to be awarded. The SH-1 is scheduled to complete its charter extension with Petrobras in August. Any change to that or other work filling in after that could have a meaningful impact on Q4. The Q7 currently is planned to work into November. What it does and where it goes from there will impact Q4. As you're aware, we continue to pursue additional Drossky-type mature property opportunities, the timing of which could also impact results for 2021. Until these variables are resolved, the range in the guidance is warranted. With our guidance, we try to appropriately identify in caveat the pros and cons we currently see. And in this environment, it's fair to say we still have some variables for the second half of the year. I'd be remiss if I didn't add some color comments on our robotics business. Our team is very adept at capturing what commercial opportunities this market has. We continue to be the global leader in jet trenching. While competitors have come into the market, the market has grown with the activity from renewables. We have contracted trenching work into 2022 and even more beyond. It's possible that we'll need another vessel to cover the potential demand that we're seeing in trenching for 2022. We're seeing an uptick in construction support, and this is bringing greater demand for our ROV services. We're also seeing rates creep up. This will likely be offset somewhat as we currently do not have plans for a large Jones Act vessel in the Gulf of Mexico. We were awarded and mobilized for a significant project providing decommissioning support in Asia Pacific and will continue to pursue additional work in that region. Our new offering of UXO and boulder clearance for the wind farm market began in 2020, continues but with less work so far for 2021. However, we've recently been awarded two additional contracts for this type of work, but the margins are from almost all wind farm related work are under pressure from competition. Our credibility has now been validated by these recent awards and we'll continue to explore possibilities for expanding our renewables efforts where it's commercial to do so. We may not be expecting exponential recovery in the robotics market, but I think at least we can expect steady as she goes with some potential upside. The disposition of the two SH vessels no doubt looms large for us. We're exploring the options, but at least we have options to explore. And with that, I'll turn it back to Eric to start the Q&A.
spk07: Thanks, Helen. Operator, at this time, we'll take any questions.
spk09: Thank you. If you would like to register a question, please press the 1 followed by the 4 on your telephone. You will hear a three-tone prompt to acknowledge your request. If your question has been answered and you would like to withdraw, Please press the one and the three. And our first question is from Ian McPherson with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
spk06: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Ian. Good morning. It's hard to remember a time when the fundamentals and the utilization of your fleet had been as disconnected from the customer economics for well intervention given oil prices. So it does... From the cheap seats over here, I feel like a when, not if question as to the demand recovery, probably more in 22 than 21. But you've covered a lot of the fundamentals exhaustively already. But just wanted to get your sense on, or Scotty, on how customers are talking about pent-up demand, either in the Gulf of Mexico or elsewhere, that should make more sense to us. vis-a-vis where oil prices are now and the high returns associated with intervention projects.
spk08: Thanks, Dean. I'll start that one off. We are seeing a lot more talk. There's a lot more discussions with the clients, especially in the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico, as we came into this year, looks very bleak. What I can say is since the last earnings call we had in well intervention, we've been awarded 15 projects and over 400 days of utilization between the Gulf of Mexico and the North Sea The North Sea has taken longer to come back, but we feel that that leaves more work coming in 22 and 23 because the whales are older over there and you can't just leave them sat. In the robotics side, since the last earnings call, we've been awarded seven major trenching scopes and over 380 days of trenching. So between the last earnings call, there's over 800 days of utilization been awarded to the fleet. There is talk going on. This project's happening. You know, it's not as visible as it used to be. You know, we're going quarter by quarter. We're in discussions with the clients, but it's more of a quarterly discussion. I would like to also point out that we are in discussions with four clients for multi-year contracts, not full utilization, but good utilization. And obviously, we want to be careful that we don't lock into too many of those because those guys are good clients, but they're obviously looking for longer rates for longer, lower rates for longer. Sorry.
spk06: That's great, Collar. Thanks, Scotty. Owen, before we hit this setback with COVID, we had a pretty clear line of sight towards leveraging the balance sheet and moving towards returning cash to shareholders. And you've done a heroic job of grinding down the net debt despite the recession in the market. And I know that the free cash flow for 2022 at this point is probably more uncertain than you thought it would be, but it's probably still a pretty high certainty that it's a positive number. So I just wanted to refresh the question on how you're thinking about the balance sheet and capital allocation heading into next year and what sort of signals or maybe EBITDA thresholds you would contemplate for revisiting that discussion on cashback.
spk05: I'm not sure about the EBITDA part of the question, but our overall strategy is still the same. We believe we've got the most modern fleet. It is a matter of the market recovering. Even without the market recovering, we're on a good trajectory for becoming net debt zero sometime next year. I think we're holding cash right now because we want to cash settle our converts. We don't want to get into an equity settlement there of any kind. So there will be a certain amount of cash held back there. But we could deploy the cash if the market recovery started to show greater signs of recovery and we felt more certain about an EBITDA recovery. I'm not sure at what level that occurs, but the biggest swing factor in that is really getting beyond the end of this year with identifying what's going to happen with the two SH vessels down in Brazil primarily. The North Sea, I feel pretty confident that the North Sea will be a much stronger two-vessel market next year. I think the Gulf of Mexico is going to be stronger next year supporting two vessels. The Q7000 has opportunities. And then I've mentioned a number of places where we have options of redeploying the SH vessels. But I think we need to get some clarity as to what's going to happen with those vessels and what the financial impact is going to be. Once we get that cleared and we see a path towards a stronger market, then we'll return to the plan of returning value to the shareholders.
spk06: Makes a lot of sense. Thanks, Owen. Thanks, everyone.
spk09: Our next question is from the line of Mike Sabella with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hey, good morning, everyone. Good morning. Yeah, I know there's still a lot of uncertainty in the second half this year. You know, you all in the past have said 21 is likely a cyclical bottom. You kind of touched around that. You know, many of the moving pieces here. I was wondering if you could just kind of give us, you know, an update as to whether you're still thinking, you know, this year is generally the bottom from EBITDA perspective. You know, it just, you know, as we're moving forward and thinking about all these moving pieces, you know, is next year higher? Do you have a guess?
spk05: Again, I think the biggest uncertainty are the two SH vessels, where we wind up deploying those and what rates we achieve. I think another variable is what happens in the rig market. Right now, looking out in 2022, I don't see utilization as being the bigger challenge. I think the bigger challenge is achieving better rates, and that's totally dependent on what happens with the rig market. Whether or not consolidation keeps occurring, whether or not retirements keep occurring, you know, the market needs to tighten up. So I don't know if, I don't know if 21 is the bottom year or 22. I'd say 21 slash 22 is the bottom, and we're expecting tremendous recovery by 23.
spk02: Understood. That's helpful. And then as we kind of think about, you know, just from a capital perspective, you've got the 20 to $35 million budget this year. Is that is there anything coming on the horizon that we should be preparing for? Or can you can we kind of think that that that y'all are expecting to stay sort of in that range for the foreseeable future?
spk05: I do expect us to stay in that range. We'll try and manage it. The next year, 2022, is a little heavier year for us on dry docks. And there are some potential capital expenditures that will be required depending on the fleet disposition as to where they go. And that has to do with system COCs and getting the ancillary equipment that we need in order to enter into different contracts. Understood. Thanks, everyone. To be more clear, right now the two vessels down in Brazil, we do not have our intervention systems on board. We use intervention systems provided by Petrobras. So to the extent that we go a different direction, then we'll have to make sure that we have our systems on board.
spk08: But we're not talking major amounts. It's additions to this year, but it's not huge per system.
spk05: No, I think we'll be able to manage more or less at the same levels here going forward. We have no anticipation of any major capital expenditures.
spk09: Our next question is from the line of Taylor Zurcher with Tudor Pickering and Holt. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hey, good morning, everyone, and thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to follow up on some of the potential range of outcomes for the two Brazil vessels. It sounds like you're definitely starting to bid those vessels into other markets outside of Brazil, and I was hoping you could just remind us what sort of markets are those vessels ideally suited for, and to the extent they find some work outside of Brazil, where should we expect them to go back to work?
spk05: It's early days yet, and we're not giving up on Petrobras. It's just up until 2019, collaboration was a word we heard often. Right now, they're not talking to us at all and certainly not using the word collaboration. So we're starting to plan on life without Petrobras if it came to that, but I wouldn't rule out Petrobras stepping up and taking the vessels. I think they They perform well, they've done exceedingly well with them, and they have a need going forward. But beyond that, you know, I've touched on some of it in my color comments, and Scotty mentioned, you know, the amount of trenching work that's increasing, and we could, oh, it's an alternative market. Number one, there's an awful lot of intervention work in West Africa, more than we thought. We have the Australian market. that we believe is market capable of supporting a vessel full-time. The North Sea, we're awaiting outcome of a significant award that could also absorb a vessel. Beyond that, you get into fallback positions, which maybe one of the vessels is used as the additional trenching asset that we're going to be needing. So instead of picking up one in the open market, we use it. And then the ultimate fallback would be accommodation work. So I think there's a number of places where we can find the utilization. It just depends on the rates that will determine the outcome financially.
spk03: Okay, that's very helpful. And my follow-up, in Ian's first question, it sounded like you are in discussions around some potential multi-year contracts. I assume that's on the well intervention side. And if I heard that correctly, I'm just curious if you could give us a bit more color. Is that going to be around the GOM vessels, the Brazil vessels, or – Kind of a mix of anything, just any more color there would be helpful.
spk08: Yeah, I'll take that. That's for Gulf of Mexico and for good clients that we've had over the years. And yes, it is multi-year, not full utilization, but good utilization.
spk03: Okay, great. Thanks, guys.
spk09: Our next question is from the line of James Shum with Cowan. Please go ahead.
spk04: Hey, good morning. I was wondering if you could help me understand the relative earnings contribution within production facilities in 2Q between the HP1, HFRS, and Droschke. And then how do you expect this to change in the third quarter with the new Droschke will?
spk07: So, Jim, in the second quarter, production facilities obviously is driven by HP1 and what it's capable of doing on that contract. We had a little bit of benefit from the new HWCG contract that we have in place, and I think it was next to no benefit, and it might have actually been negative from the production as we did the recompletion in April And then there was facility maintenance in the months of May and June before the Adrashki came back online in July. So obviously the driver still, the HP1, there was a little bit of a benefit from the HWCG, and like I said, next to nothing from production.
spk04: Thanks, Eric. And then is there any way you could help give us a sense of what Q3 might look like with the production coming online from the new Troshki well? And maybe it sounds like you get a little bit more benefit from HWCG?
spk07: I would expect right now that the benefit that we saw in the second quarter on HWCT would go forward into the third quarter. I don't expect it to be an uptick, I guess, in that area. I expect it to be in the same range. I would expect to see a benefit in production, once again, dependent on uptime of that facility with the recompletion that we had. And once again, I would expect the the benefit from production to be greater than what it was in the first quarter.
spk04: Okay, thanks. And then maybe just sticking on this, the HP-1 is contracted through at least June 2023, I believe, and will that contract be extended, or what are the options for that vessel in two years' time?
spk07: So, yeah, you are correct. The vessels under contract through June 1st or June 1st of 2023, you know, that is a vessel that we put into service in I think 2010 associated with the Phoenix field. And then as part of the divestment of the oil and gas It continues to operate for the owner there processing from the Phoenix field. I think our expectation is that that field has a life that's longer than 23. So our current expectation is that that vessel will be producing from that field for several years to come.
spk04: Great. And sorry, if I could just sneak one more in. What do you think the useful life of the vessel is? How many more years can you get from the HP-1?
spk05: It's like my old hammer. I've got three new heads, four new handles, but it's the same old hammer.
spk04: Okay. So, okay. All right. Thank you very much, guys.
spk09: Thanks, Jim. Our next question is from Igor Levy with BTIG. Please go ahead.
spk12: Good morning, guys. I know we've talked quite a bit already about Brazil, but I was hoping you could clarify how competitive are the steam vessels outside of Brazil? I remember they were initially built with the Petrobras contracts in mind. So in other words, if you stack one of those vessels in a tender against the Q vessels in the Gulf of Mexico or West Africa, how would they perform in a tender?
spk08: I'll handle that one. I think they're equal. They're very similar capable vessels, relatively similar cost base. When we come out of Brazil, our costs will come down, so they'll be somewhat in line. So if you put the same Helix 1 side by side to the Q5000 when it's out of reserves and have a similar cost base, similar capability, you know, it'd be quite an equal position.
spk12: Great. That's very helpful. And you mentioned site clearance work through the end of the year. It still seems like, you know, some of the larger projects that we've had last year are not repeating, but do you have any kind of, you know, outlook, any kind of scope for, for any projects that you're already in discussions with for next year that are larger? Basically, is there a point where you see some of those projects coming back and what's the competitive market and site clearance like compared to a year ago when you were able to win some of those bigger projects?
spk08: First and foremost, it's a very competitive market and it's an increasing market. Next year, we actually believe there'll be a lowline because it's all dependent on the timing of the wind farms in the European market. So next year, we'll see a bit of a lull. This year, we've won our second project, which gives us credibility. We're in discussions for a third project that would aid for this year. Next year, it'll be a lull, but then we see a huge increase in activity in 2023, but it's a very competitive market. But now we have some credibility behind us, and we've secured a large project that started last year and has gone into this year, and we've got our second one, got our second UXA project now, so... It's a service that we'll keep providing, but it's not huge margins. It's just a different service.
spk12: Great. Thank you for the answers. I'll turn it back.
spk09: As a reminder, if you would like to register for a question or a follow-up, please press the 1 followed by the 4. Our next question is from Samantha Ho with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
spk10: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. You mentioned that you're in discussion with multiple clients for multi-year contracts and that these customers are looking to lock in lower rates for longer. And I was just wondering what the discussion around maybe potentially seeing higher costs during that period. Are those rates going to be indexed? And then just an update on what you're seeing on the cost side.
spk08: So most of our contracts do carry some sort of cost. whether it's indexed, linked, or just percentage-driven. So we'll obviously, in those discussions, we'll be trying to enter that. Over the three to five-year periods, the cost will increase. Our personnel costs will go up, our R&M costs will go up as the market recovers, and those indexes and percentage rises that we try and keep counter against those. Again, like we said earlier, we don't want to lock into too many of these. You know, we're talking about our favorable clients, clients that we've had a good track record and a good history with, but we're not going to offer this to everybody. It's going to be, we'll keep it to three or four clients, tie up some good utilization to allow us to, you know, deal with the rest of the market as the recovery comes.
spk10: Okay. And then just for the trenching, the new trenching technology, that you guys might add. Can you speak to just sort of like what the economics are for deciding to add a trencher? Is there like one third party equipment provider that everyone, I mean, I'm just kind of wondering if there's like a long bill cycle to wait for something like this and what it entails in terms of what sort of return profile you guys are requiring to actually go ahead and make the decision to add a trencher.
spk07: So I'll go ahead and try to frame it up, and then, Scotty, if you could fill in. But I think, Samantha, when you look at it, we currently have four trenchers. This season, we have one trencher spread working in the North Sea, and I think Owen alluded to that perhaps we might have a second spread working next year. And so it would just be a matter of deploying one of our existing assets one of our existing trenchers onto a second vessel and working that spread next year. So I think it's definitely within our existing assets, existing capabilities as far as the opportunities are going forward.
spk01: But we would need to pick up a vessel of opportunity to support it.
spk08: Yes. We'll use one of the SS vessels to support it.
spk01: True.
spk08: You know, there is some competition in the trenching market, but we do consider ourselves the market leaders, and we have held rates both in jet trenching and hard ground trenching throughout this COVID period. And like I said earlier, we've had significant and sizable awards for trenching in the renewables and oil and gas market in 22, 23, and have some significant tenders out there where we believe we're the preferred supplier for 24 and onwards.
spk10: Okay, great. Just a couple more, if I can. Can you quantify how much working capital contributed to your 2Q cash from operation?
spk07: So we did have a significant benefit from working capital here in the second quarter. It was a significant contributor here in the second quarter. I think overall we talked about our expectation for the year are that working capital would be flat for the year, which would apply a potential draw in the second half. But that's all dependent on, as we said, the workload and expectation for 2022. Okay.
spk10: And if I can speak to one more. The fast response system in the Gulf, is that now going to be sort of like a steady contributor to the segment, or is that more of a call-out type work scope?
spk07: So there's two components to the HWCG. There's a retainer base fee that covers, I think, a two-year period where we would expect steady contributions to HWCG. to the expect that there's a call-out, that would be on top of it.
spk10: And did you have the call-out piece last quarter?
spk07: Sorry?
spk10: Was there a call-out component that contributed to the 2Q results?
spk00: No.
spk09: Okay, great. Thank you. And Mr. Stoffel, it appears we have no further questions at the time. I'll return the call back to you at this time, sir.
spk07: Okay, thank you. Thanks for joining us today. We very much appreciate your interest and participation and look forward to having you on our third quarter 2021 call in October. Thank you.
spk09: And that does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you all for your participation and kindly ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day, everyone.
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