Invitation Homes Inc.

Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call

7/25/2024

spk10: Greetings and welcome to the Invitations Home second quarter 2024 earnings conference call. All participants are in a listen-only mode at this time. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Scott McLaughlin, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk06: Good morning and welcome. I'm here today from Invitation Homes, with Dallas Tanner, our Chief Executive Officer, Charles Young, President and Chief Operating Officer, John Olson, Chief Financial Officer, and Scott Eisen, Chief Investment Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we'll conduct a question and answer session with our covering sell-side analysts. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourselves to one question and then re-queue if you'd like to ask a follow-up question. During today's call, we may reference our second quarter 2024 earnings release and supplemental information. This document was issued yesterday after the market closed and is available on the investor relations section of our website at www.invh.com. Certain statements we make during this call may include forward-looking statements relating to the future performance of our business, financial results, liquidity and capital resources, and other non-historical statements, which are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual outcomes or results to differ materially from those indicated. We describe some of these risks and uncertainties in our 2023 Annual Report on Form 10-K and other filings we make with the SEC from time to time. Except to the extent otherwise required by law, Invitation Homes does not update forward-looking statements and expressly disclaims any obligation to do so. We may also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures during this call. You can find additional information regarding these non-GAAP measures, including reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures, in yesterday's earnings release. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Dallas Tanner, our Chief Executive Officer.
spk19: Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. We're a little over halfway through the year, and we're pleased with the results we've posted to date. Our residents continue to stay longer, with same-store average length of stay over three years. Our same-store portfolio remains effectively full, with average occupancy of 97.5% during the second quarter. And we're pleased with our financial performance for the year to date through June, with core FFO of 6.5%. It's an election year, and housing is once again a focus on both sides of the aisle. We encourage elective officials and policymakers to have a complete understanding of the facts so that effective and long-lasting solutions to today's housing challenges can be enacted. Like many others, we follow the great work of John Burns and his team closely. I'd therefore like to start off this morning by reviewing some of their latest housing data. There are roughly 133 million households in the United States today. About 66% of those own their own home, a rate that is above the historical average during the last 60 years. And the other 34% lease something. Of those who lease, roughly 64% rent an apartment, while 31% lease a single-family home. This means there are about 14 million single-family rental homes across the country. with our wholly owned portfolio accounting for just 0.6% of total single family rental supply. Against that backdrop, I'd like to focus on three topics during my prepared remarks today. First, we believe there has never been a more compelling time to lease a home than today. We've spoken a lot about the traditional reasons that millions of Americans choose to lease. These include flexibility and convenience, as well as the desire for additional spaces, privacy, and access to great schools. In addition to those, the past two years have opened an unprecedented affordability gap between homeownership and the cost of leasing. According to the Burns data, two years ago it was just under $700 a month more expensive to buy than to lease on average in our markets. Today, the cost of homeownership is nearly $1,200 a month more expensive than it is to lease. High cost of homeownership has many causes. Chief among them, according to most economists, is the lack of new housing supply. Add that to the steady increases in homeowners insurance and property taxes, among other costs of homeownership, and we believe the value proposition of leasing a home with us becomes even more attractive. Various experts estimate our nation's housing supply shortage is in the millions of units. So if we are to address these affordability challenges, It's imperative that the home builders continue to build more homes to meet that growing demand. That leads to my second point, which is that we're proud to be part of the solution by partnering with home builders to build new communities. We continue to expand our partnerships with some of the largest home builders in America, as well as with regional home builders focused within our markets. Our partners understand that supported by our appetite for growth, they can build larger and more diverse communities. and finish those communities faster than they otherwise might have alone. More homes delivered faster is a win for everyone, including the 133 million households in America who are looking to lease or buy their next home. Our current pipeline includes nearly 2,700 new homes that we plan to make available for lease over the next few years, in addition to around the 2,000 homes that we've already added since 2021. In total, that's nearly 5,000 newly constructed homes built or in our pipeline since we launched our Build to Rent efforts just three years ago. Furthermore, our attractive returns are leading the industry, with current opportunities being underwritten at a 6% or better yield on cost, while mitigating most of the risks and costs of on-balance sheet development. My third and final point is that doing right by our residents means doing right by all of our stakeholders. We've pioneered our professional service standards several years ago as a way to differentiate the worry-free lifestyle that we provide compared to the small landlords who make up the vast majority of this industry. In particular, we believe our 24-7 genuine care service and pro-care offerings remain unrivaled. To highlight this point, through June year to date, our market teams turned and released more than 11,500 homes to new residents. nearly all of whom received a pre-move-in orientation as well as a 45-day post-move-in visit. Both of these brand-exclusive customer touchpoints are performed in person with the resident by our associates. We believe this level of service is feasible, in part to our size and our scale, and that our resident-centric approach helps drive our strong occupancy, customer retention, and overall resident satisfaction. is also why some of the largest and most respected portfolio owners have chosen recently our growing third-party management business to care for their homes and for their residents. We also leverage the size and the scale for the greater good of our communities. I'll call out two more recent examples. First is our support of the American Red Cross, and more specifically their, quote, Sound the Alarm home fire and safety program. Our sponsorship helps the Red Cross install free smoke alarms and educate families on fire escape plans and home fire safety. Secondly, we continue to support local development and improvement of outdoor community spaces through our green spaces programming. This past spring, we funded two new grants, the Patch Community Garden in Dania Beach, Florida, and the Wellspring Women's Center in Sacramento, California. As a long-term neighbor and a supporter of our communities, We take great pride in empowering our local associates to make an impact where they live and where they work. To wrap up, I'd like to thank our residents for their trust and their loyalty and thank all of our associates who work hard every day to earn that trust. We proudly stand behind the work that our company and our associates are doing to ensure our residents have a great experience with us. And we're honored to be a part of the solution to today's housing challenges. While just a fraction of 1% of the 14 million Americans who lease a home choose to do so with us, we believe we remain the premier choice where individuals and families can thrive. I'll now pass the call on to Charles Young, our President and Chief Operating Officer.
spk07: Thank you, Dallas. I'll begin by thanking our associates for another strong quarter. This has been the busiest time of the year for us, particularly for our leasing and maintenance teams. and I'm proud of the work they have done to provide exceptional service to our residents. I'll now walk you through our same store operating results for the second quarter. Same store NOI grew 3.8% year over year, led by an increase in same store core revenues of 4.8%, an increase of same store core expense of 7.1%. I'll discuss each of these a little further, starting with the 4.8% growth in core revenues. This is primarily driven by a 4.2% increase in average monthly rent, a 9.6% increase in other income, and a 50 basis point year-over-year improvement in bad debt. The second quarter marks the fifth quarter in a row of sequential improvement in our same-store bad debt, and we're pleased to see progress continuing across our markets. Next, I'll share more detail on our second quarter core expense growth at 7.1%. This was primarily due to a 10.3% increase in property tax expense, which John will discuss in more detail during his remarks, as well as a significant year-over-year increase in repairs and maintenance expense due in part to weather conditions. These increases were partially offset by lower turnover, which drove a 10.8% decrease in turnover expense, along with reductions in all of our other controllable expense line items. reflecting the hard work of our teams that control what we can control. I mentioned that weather impacted our RNM OpEx during the second quarter. It also had an outsized impact on RNM CapEx as well. As you probably heard and many of you felt, the summer season arrived early and hotter in most of our markets this year compared to last. We saw that come through during the second quarter with higher HVAC spend that impacted both RNM OpEx and RNM CapEx. Next, I'll review our same-store leasing results for the second quarter. Year-over-year renewal rent growth, which represents about three quarters of our business, increased 5.6%, while new lease rates grew 3.6% year-over-year. Together, this brought blended rent growth to 5% year-over-year, which represents a healthy return to our historical pre-pandemic norm for the second quarter. What's notably different Now, compared to the pre-pandemic period, is our same-store occupancy, which averaged 97.5% in the second quarter 2024, or approximately 140 basis points higher than our three-year historical average for the second quarter prior to 2020. Looking ahead, as the summer leasing season comes to a close, we expect to see a normal degree of seasonality return to our portfolio. While we still have a week remaining here in July, we anticipate that new lease rate growth likely peaked in May and June, as it typically does, and that occupancy this month and next will reflect the usual summer move outs and a normal seasonal curve. That being said, we expect to continue to lean in on occupancy, particularly as we move deeper into the second half of the year, as occupancy is traditionally our most impactful core revenue growth driver. Once again, I'm really proud of our teams for the results they've delivered. We've asked a lot of them this year as we've grown our third-party management business, elevated our high standards of genuine care, and made additional improvements to the resident experience, and their performance has been outstanding. I'm especially grateful for their dedication to living our core values and doing what's right for our customers. With that, I'll now turn the call over to John Olson, our Chief Financial Officer.
spk08: Thanks, Charles. I'll begin by providing an update on our investment-grade rated balance sheet and the capital markets. At June 30th, we had approximately $1.7 billion in available liquidity through a combination of unrestricted cash and undrawn capacity on our revolving credit facility. Unsecured debt comprised over three-quarters of our total indebtedness, and our net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio was 5.3 times at June 30th. Virtually all of our debt was fixed rate or swapped to fixed rate, and nearly 84% of our wholly owned homes were unencumbered at the end of the second quarter. As we previously announced on our last earnings call in April, Moody's upgraded our issuer and issue level credit ratings to BAA2 from BAA3 with a stable outlook. As we've discussed before, we have no debt reaching final maturity until 2026, when our IH 2018-4 securitization, with a current balance of approximately $634 million, reaches final maturity, as does our five-year credit facility, which is comprised of a $2.5 billion term loan, along with an undrawn $1 billion revolver. While we have plenty of time remaining prior to 2026, we anticipate we'll address these maturities later this year. This is consistent with our historically proactive approach to managing our balance sheet, and is also in consideration of various swap instruments that mature later this year and next. Specifically, we expect to repay the IH 2018-4 securitization later this year, as planned, with cash that we had earmarked from our August 2023 bond issuance. We are also in discussions with our bank group regarding a recast of our five-year credit facility, and we expect to be in a position to share further details on both prior to our next earnings call. Next, I'll review our second quarter and year-to-date financial results. For the second quarter, core FFO increased 7.3% to 47 cents per share, while AFFO increased 4.1% to 40 cents per share. Year-to-date, core FFO increased 6.5% to 94 cents per share, and AFFO increased 5.4% to 81 cents per share. These year-to-date results mark a solid finish to the first half of the year, which included growing contributions from our third-party management business, a better-than-originally-expected insurance renewal, and some favorable early outcomes on property taxes in a few of our smaller tax markets. As outlined in last night's earnings release, we have maintained the midpoint of our full-year same-store NOI growth guidance at 4.5%. while moving the midpoint of our same-store revenue growth guidance down by 12.5 basis points to 4.875%, and improving the midpoint of our same-store expense growth guidance by 50 basis points to 5.75%. In addition, we have raised the midpoint of our full-year core FFO guidance by a penny to $1.87 per share. The full details of our updated guidance are included in last night's earnings release. One area of our guidance where we think continued caution remains appropriate is property tax expense. As you know, property taxes represent our largest same store expense line item by far, with over half of the total being impacted by two states, Florida and Georgia. Georgia has provided us with limited information to date on assessed values, while millage rates and final tax bills from both states aren't expected for a few more months. As we've previously discussed, we expect same-store property tax expense to remain elevated in the third quarter due to the under-accrual in the first three quarters of last year, prior to a partial offset in the fourth quarter of this year. Our revised expectation for year-over-year property tax growth is 8% to 9.5%. As I mentioned earlier, we've received some favorable feedback from some of our smaller tax jurisdictions, and in addition, some early signs from Georgia that are trending positively. but we believe it is prudent to remain cautious until better clarity exists later this year. In closing, we're pleased with what we've accomplished to date and are excited to maintain our momentum in the second half of the year. We remain committed to driving sustainable growth, serving as the premier choice in home leasing, and continuing to create long-term value for our stockholders. That concludes our prepared remarks.
spk13: Operator, please open the line for questions. All right, perfect. Thank you.
spk10: We will now begin our question and answer session. To ask a question, please press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star and then two. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. In the interest of time, we ask participants to limit themselves to one question and then re-queue by pressing star one to ask your follow-up.
spk13: One moment while we poll for questions. All right. Our first question comes from Michael Goldsmith of UBS.
spk10: Please go ahead.
spk12: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. I believe in the prepared marks, Charles, you said that you were leaning in on occupancy. Should we interpret that as you're being incrementally cautious on occupancy? Is that driving the reduction of the high end of the same sort of revenue guidance And then along those lines, are you seeing or expecting potentially more move outs from tenants looking to purchase homes?
spk07: Yeah, this is Charles. Great questions. If we kind of step back where we are, look at the quarter. Q2 was strong overall. Ninety-seven and a half occupancy kind of reflects your question that, you know, we've been able to sustain occupancy throughout the year. You saw that early in the year as we were pushing. And as we got to occupancy, our blended rent growth rose every month for the last five months. So Q2 was strong overall. What we did see, though, was a little bit of moderation in a few markets that have been high flyers for for us for the last several years in Phoenix, Tampa, a little bit of Orlando and Jacksonville. And as we saw that, I think that's what's reflecting in some of the guide that you're seeing. And, you know, that kind of normal moderation is also part of seasonality that's coming. So as we get into the summer here, you'll start to see that normal seasonality that happens where you'll get occupancy come down a little bit and then pop back up later in the year. As I talk about that, it's around trying to minimize how far it goes down and be ready for it to pop back up. In terms of the renewal side, look, there's a little bit less loss to lease in the summer, and we have more going into the fall. And we went out in the mid-sixes for the summer, and that's where you're seeing some of that moderation show up. But as you look forward into... September and specifically October, we get back over seven in our ask. And so we expect that the renewals will come back up and we'll get our occupancy back up. The business remains really strong. We're healthy overall. You look at the historical numbers, 97 and a half at this time of year with a five blend is as strong as you've ever been outside of a pandemic season. So I'll turn it over to John to talk a little bit more about guidance.
spk08: Yeah, thanks, Charles. Look, we took what we thought was a conservative approach in reassessing guidance this quarter. In doing that, we fine-tuned both our revenue and expense guides, and we may have tried to put too fine a point on it, particularly with regard to the revenue revision. Ultimately, that was based on our desire to be as transparent as possible about what we're seeing in a couple of spots. So specifically, as Charles alluded to, you know, Phoenix, Central Florida, where we've seen some moderation began around May and continued into June. So in particular, it seems as though there's a little bit of price fatigue setting in there and some supply sensitivities following what's been a fantastic run in those markets. We don't think there's anything to be alarmed about. The markets are still quite healthy, but maybe just not quite as strong as we had expected at the beginning of the year. All that said, the vast majority of our portfolio is firing on all cylinders. In particular, I'd call out Chicago, Southern California, Seattle. All of those had new lease rate growth above 5% in the second quarter. And on the renewal side, South Florida saw 9.5% renewal growth. Atlanta was at 6.3%. And over half of our other markets were in the 5%. So we feel really good about that. I think it's also worth noting that we do believe there's still some conservatism baked into the expense guide. In particular, we've talked about being cautious with respect to Florida and Georgia taxes, and we'll know a lot more there in the next few months. So long story short, we're not seeing any kind of fundamental shift in the business, but we probably tried to be a bit too surgical in the revised revenue guide, and we'll own that.
spk10: All right, thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Josh Dinnerland from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk23: Yeah, hey guys. Maybe just to follow up on some of the comments there, appreciate the color on Phoenix and Jacksonville. Maybe there's some price fatigue setting in there. Is there any kind of, I think Phoenix has been a high supply market for SFR, just building in general. Is there any kind of dynamic that's playing out from the supply front, or is it just kind of like pricing has run and it's kind of at the upper limits of where people can afford it relative to incomes in those markets?
spk07: This is Charles again.
spk23: Hey, Charles.
spk07: Yeah, great question. Look, I think you hit on it. In a few of these markets, specifically Phoenix, and we mentioned this in Vegas before, there is some build-to-rent coming on, which creates some short-term costs. temporary supply shocks. And you couple that with the fatigue. I think that's what we're seeing here. Florida as well, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, these are markets where there's a lot of action happening on the build to rent side. And you couple that with the kind of moderation, seasonality, a little bit of fatigue. We'll work through it. We've done that. We've seen these kind of ins and outs. But, you know, we wanted to make sure that we were open and transparent about what we're seeing. So I think it's a little bit of both of that. And then, as John mentioned, there's other markets that are really still humming along, not as much of that kind of fatigue. I think that's what happened in Chicago. Chicago never really had that run, and it's starting to catch up now. And then you also couple it, we're still pretty low on move out to purchase a home, but you can look across the markets and see that there's a little bit more inventory starting to come in some of the markets. And I think it creates a little bit more optionality. Again, we're given the supply demand of single family in this country. Long term, we're in really great shape. You just get some of these kind of supply and fatigue items market by market, but that's why we're in multiple markets.
spk10: All right. Our next question comes from Steve Sokwa from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
spk18: Yeah, thanks. I just wanted to maybe circle up with Dallas or Scott just on the capital deployment. You know, kind of what are your expectations going into the back half of the year? And, you know, where are you seeing more opportunities? And I know you talked about that 6% yield. You know, how do you think that yield might trend kind of looking forward over the next 12 months?
spk19: Hi, Steve. Dallas, I'll start and then I'll hand it to Scott who can add maybe a little bit more detail real time. Look, we feel really good about our sort of guidance in terms of being in line with what we laid out at the beginning of the year, both from an acquisitions perspective and what we were generally seeing from a yield on cost point as well. I would say, and Scott can confirm this, that the majority of our relationships are expanding. We're seeing product in a lot of new areas. What's been sort of interesting has been maybe the regional operator wanting to lean in a little bit harder and figure out if there's ways to work together. Feels like yield on costs kind of on our numbers are in the six pluses, and we're looking at some creative ways to even maybe make that better over time. We're certainly having more deal flow than I'd say we'd seen even in the last couple of years. Good opportunities. Yeah, and look, Steve, it's a good question. Thank you.
spk03: We continue the same strategy that we started when I came on board about a year ago, which is to expand our relationships with both the national builders and the regional builders. You know, they have, you know, been very open with us on their pipelines. We're obviously picking and choosing the locations in the communities that make the most sense for us. We're trying to find communities that are both proximate to where we have existing operations and existing homes and also communities that we think have the best in-fill demand. You know, look, we continue to underwrite, you know, new homes and communities every day in our dialogue with the builders. We've probably got another 1,000-plus homes in the backlog that we're trying to see whether they make sense for us and whether we can come close to getting those under contract or not. And we're looking within the same markets that are the IH target markets, albeit maybe with also trying to see if we can do more in Nashville in particular, given the new presence we have there with the third-party management contracts. As far as yields and pricing, I'd say that they are consistent with sort of what the guidance is we've been giving to the street for the last six months. And look, there are some markets where it's going to be a little lower, like a market like Denver where it's a higher price point and some markets where it's going to be a little higher on the cap rate. And we're trying to get to the right blend across the company. But we continue to be pleased with the supply and dialogue we have with the builders. And again, it's we're picking and choosing what we like. Not everything we see from them makes sense. We pick the locations we like. We do a very detailed analysis on the demographics, on the location, on the performance of our assets. You know, we, you know, underwrite where competitive supply is, et cetera. We're trying to make the right decisions that are consistent with our operating strategy. But I'd say that the dialogue continues to be, you know, strong and significant, and we're trying to add more builders to our stable of partners every day.
spk10: Our next question comes from Eric Wolf from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
spk15: Hey, thanks. I think at Nary, renewals were looking pretty strong for June and similar to May. I was just curious whether you saw any increased pushback from tenants in June, such that the take rate was maybe a little bit lower than normal versus where you're sending things out. And if you could also just share where you're achieving renewals for July and August versus where you're sending them, I think that would be a helpful context as well. Thanks.
spk07: Yeah, I'll start with the July and August. We're not done, so we're not going to share the numbers in terms of the July numbers. But going back to your original question, you know, look, we were in the high fives for all five months of the start of the year, 5-8, 5-7, 5-9. April actually came in at 6-0, and May was 5-9. What we did see, and this is part of what we're talking about here, there was a little bit of moderation in June. We ended up at 5-0. for a blend of 4.7. And so that's where we just got cautious and we looked across the markets and there were a few markets that, as we talked about, Phoenix in Central Florida, that kind of dragged down a little bit. We do have some markets that are still high flying. We have, you know, South Florida, as John mentioned, is in the nines and other markets are still there. So I think there's a couple of things. It's not always pushback. I think we mentioned this at Mayreid as well, There's a bit of thinner loss to lease in the summer because we've been pushing that time of year for years. And so as that portfolio turns over at that time of year, there's just not as much there. And as we're trying to stay focused on occupancy, we don't want to lean in too far. But that loss to lease gets wider as we get into the end of the year. So you're going to see renewal start to come back up. And that's reflected in kind of what we went out for August in the mid-sixes for renewal as September high-sixes and October actually above seven. So you put all that together, you'll start to see the renewals come back. I think it's really more driven by loss to lease and seasonality of move-out season. And again, we're still going through some, you know, the lease compliance cleanup, and we're getting a little bit more move-outs now than we did in historical years, and we're trying to make sure we stay full. And so it's a balance as we optimize the revenue.
spk10: Our next question comes from Austin Wordsmith from KeyBank. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hi. Good morning, everybody. I guess I'm still just trying to reconcile a few things, a little bit of the why, and the fact that turnover was down this quarter, occupancy was stable throughout the quarter. So what was it that you saw happening from a demand standpoint or notice to move out perspective that led you to dial back the renewal rate growth 75 to 100 basis points in June relative to the increases achieved in April and May. And I'm also curious, do you think that the onboarding and sort of pricing strategy of the third-party management platform had any impact on the in-place portfolio? Thanks.
spk07: This is Charles again. I'll take the last part again. There's really third parties had no impact here. This is really a kind of market situation. You know, what we saw, you know, at NAREID is May into June, we're still going strong. We saw some moderation in the second half of June. And as we looked at July, that seasonality started to show, you know, we typically peak on blend In June, May, and July, August, you get the moderation that comes with the seasonality as people move out. And you couple that with the markets and, you know, to the earlier question, there's a little bit more negotiation and we want to stay full best we can. We are going to come down on occupancy for a few months and then pop back up. And as we do that, that's the balance that we saw. It just seemed that in these few markets and at this time of year showed up a little earlier than we expected.
spk11: And we wanted to make sure that we're being transparent with what we see.
spk13: Our next question comes from Brad Heffern of RBC Capital Markets.
spk10: Please go ahead.
spk09: Yeah, thanks. I'm sure you're limited on what you can say, but can you give whatever color you can on this FTC inquiry? And then is this a cruel guess, placeholder, or is this close to what you think the real liability might be?
spk19: Thanks. This is Dallas. You hit it. I mean, we can't say much because it's a pending legal matter. You know, as we disclosed in the summer of 21, we received an inquiry from the FTC requesting information about how we conduct our business generally and specifically during the COVID-19 pandemic. Since then, we've fully cooperated with the FTC. And as we previously disclosed during the first quarter, that we'd begun some preliminary discussions with them about a potential resolution. Those discussions have continued since that time. They've been productive, and we certainly appreciate the dialogue with them today. And as you know, GAAP requires a company to accrue for contingent liabilities when certain amounts or circumstances have been met, including consideration of a settlement offer that could be made in good faith. The amount we accrued as of the end of June reflects the amount that the company would consider paying to resolve the matter without any admission of liability and to avoid the inconvenience and expense of it continuing. And we do think a potential resolution of the matter will have no material ongoing impact on our business. And that being said, presently we can't say how it will proceed going forward or how it could ultimately be resolved.
spk13: Our next question comes from Jamie Feldman from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
spk04: Great. Thank you. Can you talk about the earnings impact from the incremental third-party homes added in the quarter and what's in your guidance for the rest of the year?
spk08: Sure. Thanks. So recall at the outset of the year when we introduced guidance, we thought that there were about two pennies of incremental AFFO contribution from the third-party business You know, the increase to the core FFO guide at the midpoint is sort of reflective of finding that there's a little bit more in it with the upcoming Upward America onboarding and a couple other smaller things. But that's really what drove the midpoint increase on core FFO.
spk13: Our next question comes from Linda Tsai from Jefferies.
spk10: Please go ahead.
spk00: Hi. With your average stay at three years, do you think this is the peak given interest rates coming down? Or would you expect this to go higher by next year given the John Burns comment about it being $1,200 more costly to buy versus rent?
spk19: It is a great question. This is Dallas. Look, I think we've seen sequentially every quarter our average length of stay continue to grow. And if you look at how the business was started, we started in the West Coast markets early on in 2012. Our West Coast markets are, you know, getting close to, in some markets outside of California, almost four years. California is well into almost its fifth year of average length of stay. I wouldn't expect this to be a peak at all. As you look at the housing, call it supply, demand, and balances, we would expect that as we bring on additional services, as we create the flexibility and efficiency of the scale of the platform, that this leasing lifestyle outside of a cost differential is appealing to the masses in much greater scale. And I would just furthermore add that While this may be a tipping point or close to in terms of the bid-ask spread between ownership and cost of lease, we've operated in an environment where that differential is much less than it is today and continue to see that acceleration. So I think, you know, we think now it's sort of a minimum probably with a new customer that they're going to stay with us three years and well until fourth or fifth.
spk13: Our next question comes from Juan Sanabria from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk16: Hi. Thanks for the time. Just a question. You mentioned higher RNM costs both on the OpEx and CapEx line. So just curious if you could give more details around that and how maybe your CapEx budget has changed. I noticed the AFFO or FAT guidance didn't change despite the change in core FFO. So if you could remind us what we should be assuming for CapEx, that would be helpful. Thank you.
spk07: Thank you. I'll start. This is Charles, and I'll give it to John. Look, as I mentioned, we saw the weather really heat up earlier than is typically seen for us and specifically relative to last year. The curve looks the same in terms of it gets hot and our markets around the start of the summer, but it started about a month early. And that curve of just how we budgeted you know, comes through in the R&M line on both the OPEX and CAPEX, when you're dealing with HVACs, you can get into a little higher cost around repair and replacement and doing what's right by the resident and make sure the house is cooled. So it's really just happening earlier and in many markets across our portfolio from Florida to Phoenix, Texas, where we are today. It just got hotter earlier, and that's the impact there. I'll let John talk about how it impacts the guidance.
spk08: Thanks, Charles. Yeah, Juan, I think you hit the nail on the head. So if you look at the revision to the core FFO guide and the fact that we did not move AFFO, it's sort of reflective of the fact that, you know, with the peak temperatures of summer kicking in a little bit earlier, CAPEX has been running hot. So in terms of the You know, the year-over-year increases there, they're sizable on both the expense and capital side. And so given where we are relative to where we expected to be, we just weren't in a position yet to make a move on the AFFO front. The teams are very focused on cost controls. Typically what we see is when HVAC season starts is you see a big pickup in work order volume as people start turning those systems on and discovering, you know, what sort of repairs or other maintenance might be required. And then once we've gotten through that, you see the volume of work orders sort of dissipate on the back end. The shape of that curve this year looks really familiar and very comparable to last year. It's been just shifted forward a little bit. So we're going to continue to watch that with respect to CapEx and the AFFO guide and more to come on that probably next quarter.
spk10: Our next question comes from Jesse Letterman of Zellman and Associates. Please go ahead.
spk14: Nice job in the quarter and thanks for taking my question. A quick one on acquisition guidance so if i take your current spending year to date and incorporate roughly 700 homes you expect to be delivered from home builders in the second half of the year and normalized for a consistent number of existing homes that you've acquired the last couple quarters looks like you'd still need to purchase about 800 homes beyond that to get to the midpoint of the 800 million so just wanted to ask currently what do you view as the most likely source of these additional homes between additional deliveries from home builders, the existing home market, which seems to maybe have loosened up, or a portfolio acquisition? Thanks.
spk03: Yeah, great question. This is Scott. Thanks. Look, in terms of our acquisition backlog and where we're focused, we continue to negotiate directly with the national and regional builders on buying the partial and full communities from them. So part of the incremental acquisitions that we would expect to get under contract between now and year end is just continuing buying directly from the home builders. We are also looking at some full community acquisitions. There are sponsors out there that have developed full communities and are ready to monetize and exit them that are either partially or fully stabilized. And there are, you know, we obviously look at various of these communities when they come to market, and there are a few of them out there that we're taking a hard look at. And, you know, to the extent, you know, we could find something that makes sense for us and is at the right yield, we could supplement buying directly from the home builders by buying some, you know, full communities from some specific BTR developers.
spk13: Our next question comes from Handel St.
spk10: Just from Missoula. Please go ahead.
spk22: Hey there. Thanks for taking my question. Charles, I want to go back to something you mentioned earlier about the expectation for renewal pricing to pick up into the fourth quarter. Obviously, we're going through a bit of seasonality here, but an expectation for that to rebound. You know, just looking back the last couple of years, that hasn't really been the case. I know COVID, obviously, the last couple of years has impacted numbers, but even before COVID. So I guess I'm curious, you know, your thoughts are what gives you the confidence that you will see that recovery indeed into the fourth quarter. Thank you.
spk07: Thanks, Andel. Yeah, I think you called it out. You know, coming off of COVID, there was no seasonality. and the numbers, the supply-demand, what was going on with lease compliance and all that. The renewals were just high for a few years, and you didn't get the kind of up and down that we're talking or seeing in the normal seasonal curve that we're seeing this year. There's just not as much loss to lease in the summer, because historically that portfolio, we have a long length to stay, and we renew, and we've been pushing, and there's just not as much to capture, and you balance that with trying to stay occupied. um you know you don't see it but what we do see is that you can look at the numbers there's a lot more loss to lease as we go into the fall and so i you know we're back to that normal seasonal curve and um you know we're past that you know the the pandemic period that uh expect and already starting to see with the ask of uh october in the sevens coming up from the mid sixes that we're going to start to see that so You know, time will tell what it looks like, but this is kind of the normal historical that we've seen, and it's math in terms of the loss to lease and what we see in the portfolio.
spk13: Our next question comes from Daniel Chikoriko from Scotiabank.
spk10: Please go ahead.
spk17: Thanks. Charles or John, could you put some numbers around the change in growth expectations for those Florida, Phoenix, and Vegas markets this year?
spk11: I don't know if we typically give specific by market.
spk07: You know, I'm speaking for John here a little bit. We typically are kind of give, you know, what we think our blend will be for the year. And, you know, we had, I personally had expectations watching how Florida had performed late last year and early this year that we might keep some of that momentum going. You know, the reality is, as we talked about, just a bit of moderation and return to seasonality, and it happened a little earlier than we expected. And so I think that's what's reflecting in our adjustment to the guide and just being thoughtful around what we're seeing in those markets. Again, a little bit more negotiation, a little bit of short-term supply based on build to rent. Same thing with Phoenix. We've seen that for a little while. It's starting to come back. But, you know, this is some of the things that you see on markets that have been flying high for a while. There's a little bit of moderation here and we'll get back to kind of equilibrium over time.
spk08: Yeah, I think the only thing I would add to that is to reiterate that we probably tried to get a little bit too surgical in terms of referencing what we saw in Phoenix and some of the Florida markets other than South Florida. But I think the reality is we felt comfortable that overall you know, growth remains robust. We feel really comfortable with where the business is. As Charles mentioned, we see that loss to lease opens back up for us here in the next couple months. But we want to be really thoughtful about striking a balance between rate and occupancy because, as Charles said, occupancy is much more impactful and ultimately our guide is to core revenue growth. And that is what we want to optimize. And, you know, the levers we have to pull are the trade-off between rate and occupancy.
spk13: Our next question comes from Adam Kramer from Morgan Stanley.
spk10: Please go ahead.
spk20: Hey, guys. Just on the property taxes, wondering which kind of the markets that came in below expectations. I think you mentioned some of the kind of non-Florida, Georgia markets. Just wondering if you could call out the specific markets that came in below expectations.
spk08: Yeah, sure. Great question, Adam. In Washington State and Minnesota, we had good guys in the first quarter. So the revision to the top end of that property tax guidance range is entirely attributable to actual good guys that we recorded in the first half. So just to be crystal clear, our underlying assumptions for property tax expense growth outside of those markets are unchanged, right? So we haven't touched up our Florida or Georgia assumptions As I've referenced in my prepared remarks, the Georgia values that we are getting back and have gotten back have shown that assessed values are coming in below what we've incorporated in our assumptions. Obviously, we don't have millage rates or final tax bills yet, so that's not something that we're going to take to the bank. But when I said that there were some signs that we thought supported cautious optimism, that's what they are.
spk13: Our next question comes from Umataya Ukasanya from Deutsche Bank.
spk10: Please go ahead.
spk21: Umataya Ukasanya Good morning. With some of the increments of supply you're highlighting in markets like Florida, could you just talk a little bit about who's doing that building, how much is actually coming online, and how quickly one can expect that to be absorbed in these markets?
spk19: Yeah, I think, you know, I can't give you exactly a Florida-specific answer on absorption and new home starts in a succinct answer, but I think Scott and I would both agree. We're out in the market. We are seeing both build-to-rent operators in regional and I'd even add national homebuilders. that are much more willing to deal on pending pipeline. And some of that comes from a natural slowdown of, you know, the home buyers with mortgage rates, you know, in the sevens or in the low sevens. And also, you know, there are some BTR operators that, are you know we've seen it scott even some of our conversations where they're thinking about where they are kind of midway through a project and or uh call it entitlements delivery and look rethinking things uh and so there's definitely some new supply where we've been able to sort of you know cherry pick it's hard to tell you how much of that is absorption but like you know to re-echo or to re-emphasize what charles and jonah said you've certainly seen some supply sensitivity in Phoenix, Tampa, and Orlando. Some of that's driven by average listings. Some of it's driven by new product coming into the marketplace.
spk13: Our next question comes from Ann Ken from Green Street. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, good morning. Thanks for your time. Do you have any thoughts on whether the lower turnover recently is signifying a larger trend going forward? And if so, how should we look at quantifying the impact to OpEx and CapEx from the lower churn?
spk11: I can start on the churn kind of trends here.
spk07: Prior to last year, as we were really going through the bad debt lease compliance cleanup, we'd been lowering turnover year over year. kind of abnormally low during the pandemic, just given the dynamics. Um, but last year went up and a lot of that was as we were trying to work through the lease compliance, we're still working through some of that, especially in some of our bigger markets, Atlanta, SoCal has made some good moves. We're still dealing with Carolina, Chicago a bit. Um, and so from a historical perspective, it's still a little higher than it might have been, but relative to last year where we, especially in the second half of the year, we talked about why we pushed so hard on occupancy because we had a big turnover spike as we were cleaning up there. And so what you're seeing this year is kind of returning back to that kind of normal trend as we work through a little bit of that cleanup. How it balances out, we still have some cleanup in markets like Atlanta and a few others, so time will tell, but so far it's trended nicely and You know, we talked a little bit here about the R&M expense, again, driven by weather. But if you look at our turn costs and other parts, those have come in really well. And that's mostly because we are starting to see that trend down. Hard to predict where it ends up. But I like our trend. And, you know, being in that low 20s is a really healthy place. And it's part of what's driving our occupancy, as well as coupling it with good days to re-resident. The teams are really executing well. So the things that we're controlling... that we can't control, proud of the teams and how they're behaving. You want to add something, John?
spk08: No, I think the only observation I would share, and I think it's a good question, is that the least compliance move outs that we continue to see, while we're seeing some moderation in the quantum of those, It's still a pretty good number, right? So about 17.5% of move-outs in the second quarter were for sort of lease compliance backlog cleanup. That was down about 200 basis points from the first quarter, and it's about 100 basis points lower than what our average has been over the last five. So You know, we're seeing very reasonable turnover inclusive of some ongoing cleanup of the COVID hangover. And I would say the turn cost being, you know, down year over year taking into consideration that we did have still a relatively sizable number of those lease compliance move outs and the fact that those are typically, you know, in the neighborhood of 50% more costly than a standard term. If we put it all together, you know, we feel quite good about controlling the things that are within our control, as Charles said.
spk10: Our next question comes from Jade Romani from KBW. Please go ahead.
spk05: Hi, this is Jason Sapsh. I'm on for Jade. My question is, how much do rates need to come down for acquisitions to really accelerate?
spk03: I think from our – hey, this is Scott. Thanks. Great question. I think from our perspective, look, we have a certain hurdle rate that we set for our acquisitions and what we're trying to achieve. And as we've said to the market, we're in the market today achieving, you know, especially with our builder deals, you know, deals in the 6-plus percent range. As markets move and as interest rates move, we will evaluate what we think our cost of capital is and what we think we're prepared to pay for transactions in the market. It's hard for me to sit here and tell you exactly how much we're going to move our acquisition cap rates for every basis point move in treasuries. But obviously, we look at our weighted average cost of capital. We look at where we, you know, see opportunity in the market, whether it's buying from builders, buying portfolios or buying, you know, stabilized assets. And, you know, we will pivot accordingly as the market moves. But I can't sit here and tell you, you know, prescriptively exactly how much, you know, cap rates are going to move based upon interest rates.
spk10: Our next question comes from Jamie Feldman from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thanks for taking the question. I just want to clarify because, John, you've now said a couple times you think you may have taken too surgical a view of this in your revised guidance or too surgical a cut. Are you suggesting maybe you're better off not revising guidance? I've had a couple people ping me on this and I just want to, I think everyone wants to understand exactly what you mean by that. I think you said, you know, too surgical and you'll have to own it.
spk08: Yeah, well, I think that we were a bit surprised by the reaction, candidly, and I think we were maybe too mechanical in how we approached the puts and takes that we saw based on what we learned in the first half of the year. And so I think it's a little bit of a mea culpa because, you know, we weren't trying to launch a thousand ships and give people the sense that, you know, we see underlying weakness in our business because we don't. What we were trying to do is sort of acknowledge that, hey, You know, we sort of alluded to this at Nary over the course of the balance of June. We saw that that was a trend that was continuing and that was moderation in, you know, certain of the markets that Charles referenced based on, you know, maybe a little bit of price fatigue on the part of the customer. And, you know, in the interest of trying to be transparent, you know, that was what was reflected in the guide.
spk13: Our next question comes from Omotayo Okasanya from Deutsche Bank.
spk10: Please go ahead.
spk21: Yes, thanks for having me back on. The pipeline you talked about, the 2,700 homes, which I think includes the 1,000 homes you just announced, how quickly do you expect that to be delivered?
spk03: Great question. Thank you. The way that these builder pipelines work is when we get something under contract. Let's say we're buying 150 homes in a community from a builder. The builders deliver those homes to us, let's say, 10 homes a month within any given community. So when we talk about our backlog, we're obviously giving visibility to a pipeline that, frankly, is getting delivered over the next eight quarters or so. And so in our supplemental We obviously disclosed that we have a backlog here of call it 2,700 homes in the pipeline. We've been very specific that we expect 691 of those homes to be delivered in the second half of this year. and then the balance is what gets delivered over time. But again, each time we get a community under contract, there is a forward delivery schedule, and the builders on average tend to deliver somewhere between 8 and 10 homes a month. And so, you know, that's why when you look at that pipeline, that's why you see a certain percentage of it as second half, and a certain half percentage of it is in 2015. So we don't get, you know, 150 homes delivered to us all at once, but it gets spread over time. And obviously that, you know, from a leasing perspective also makes it a little more efficient for us. So instead of having a community that's 100% vacant for 150 homes, we get 10 homes a month. And so we can sort of balance our leasing of those homes as they get delivered. And so that's the right way to think about that pipeline. And that's why we have that disclosure in our supplemental the way we do.
spk13: Our next question comes from Eric Wolf from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
spk15: Hey, thanks. Apologies, line dropped out for a second. So if you've already answered this, my apologies. But I was just curious, what's sort of embedded in your guide for the back half of the year for blended spreads? You did, I think, 4.7% in the first half. So I was just curious what would be in the guide for the second half of the year, and sort of if you could give a little bit of building blocks for how you're going to get there.
spk08: Yeah, it's a good question, Eric. I mean, recall that Our guidance is around core revenue growth, but we did articulate that we thought that blended rent growth would be high fours, low fives for the balance of the full year. You know, as you know, we are four seven through the first half. The path forward from here is going to be a story of balancing rate and occupancy. And so we're going to take as much rate as we can when we can take it and where we can take it. but we're going to be conscious of wanting to stay full. So I think, you know, as I think about the levers we have available to pull in order to maximize revenue and NOI, you know, we react to the signals we see in the market. We try to lean in and be aggressive where we can. But at the same time, you know, if we need to give a little bit to stay full and keep driving, you know, revenue and NOI contribution, that's what we'll do.
spk13: Our next question comes from Austin Wordsmith from KeyBank. Please go ahead.
spk02: I appreciate you taking the follow-up as well as just kind of the thought around being transparent and just confidence in the underlying business. I guess it's just, you know, not providing a July update maybe sends a little bit of a different message. And so trying to understand what gives you the confidence around renewal rate growth re-accelerating during what is the seasonally slower part of the year. You know, you highlighted, I think, mid 6% to 7% plus from August to October. So, you know, maybe just help us understand what you expect to achieve relative to that asking rate, because there has been some give back on the ask versus what was achieved here, you know, within recent months.
spk11: Yeah, this is Charles.
spk07: Look, there's always a little bit of a spread between what we ask and what we pull in, and it can be 100 basis points, it can be 200 basis points, it goes back and forth. We've never, if we're in a month and we're only in a 25th, we've never given exact numbers on kind of where we are. There's still time left. But what I can say is, you know, as we looked at kind of the June, May to June, we're seeing similar trend. We kind of peaked out, as I talked about, on the newly side in May of June at, you know, 3.8, 3.7. July is going to, you know, moderate slightly as we get into seasonality on the newly side. Renewals aren't far off from where we are in June, maybe down a little bit like we talked about because of the loss, the lease, and the spread. But we expect that those renewals will come up over time. So as we talked about, again, we went into the ending the quarter at 97.5%, 5% blend. We're going into seasonality, still seeing good demand. We have a few markets that are softening. We have some markets that Are, you know, really strong. We talked about Chicago. We talked about SoCal, what we're seeing in SoFlo. Even Atlanta has really strong kind of rate growth at this point in the kind of top half of where we are. So, look, there is a we're in a position that we want to go into the summer like this. Coming in at 97 and a half, we'll find that kind of normal moderation of occupancy over a couple of months and everything will kind of pop back up. And we think the renewals that are two thirds of what we do will start to come back. So I like the position that we're in. We saw a little bit of moderation and seasonality show up a little earlier than we expected. And, you know, other than that, things are still robust. Demand is there.
spk11: We're getting the leads and we'll keep pushing and driving towards revenue.
spk13: This completes our question and answer session.
spk10: I would now like to turn the conference back over to Dallas Turner for any closing remarks.
spk19: We appreciate all the support and look forward to seeing people at the fall conferences. Thank you.
spk10: The conference is now concluded. You may disconnect.
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