IQVIA Holdings, Inc.

Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call

4/27/2023

spk13: gentlemen, thank you for standing by. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the IQVIA first quarter 2023 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Nick Childs, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Treasury. Mr. Childs, please begin your conference.
spk14: Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our first quarter 2023 earnings call. With me today are Ari Boosby, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ron Brumman, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Eric Sherbet, Executive Vice President and General Counsel, Mike Fedock, Senior Vice President, Financial Planning and Analysis, and Gustavo Peron, Senior Director, Investor Relations. Today, we will be referencing a presentation that will be visible during this call for those of you on our webcast. This presentation will also be available following this call in the events and presentation section of our IQVIA Investor Relations website at ir.iqvia.com. Before we begin, I would like to caution listeners that certain information discussed by management during this conference call will include forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company's business, which are discussed in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our annual report on Form 10-K, and subsequent SEC filings. In addition, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures on this call, which should be considered a supplement to and not a substitute for financial measures prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the comparable GAAP measures is included in the press release and conference call presentation. I would now like to turn the call over to our chairman and CEO.
spk01: Thank you very much, Nick. And good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our first quarter results. This was another quarter where we delivered again on all our financial targets. Our revenue grew 11% organic, excluding the impact of foreign exchange and COVID-related work. The diversification of our short and long cycle businesses allowed us to perform well in the quarter despite the broader macroeconomic dynamics. The demand environment for our industry continues to be healthy. Global clinical trial activity remains resilient, and the prospects for our commercial business remain favorable. A few encouraging signs I'd like to share with you this morning. The 15 largest pharmaceutical companies together spent a record-setting $138 billion on research and development in 2022. According to BioWorld, the Q1 EBP funding was $15.6 billion. That was up double-digit versus prior year, and up sequentially versus Q4. March was a particularly strong month for EBP funding, despite concerns about the impact from the banking crisis. FDA approvals are off to a strong start in 2023. There were 13 approvals in the first quarter. That's up from an average of nine over the prior five years. And that's a positive indicator for our commercial business. There was a significant M&A activity in Q1, which primarily is large pharma acquiring smaller companies, and the industry expects 2023 M&A spend to be one of the largest years in the last decade. This highlights the ongoing demand for molecules by large pharma. Internally, Our Q1 demand metrics show continued healthy growth. I'll share a couple with you this morning. Net new bookings were $2.6 billion. That represented a quarterly book-to-bill of 128. As a result, our backlog reached a new record and grew 10.1% versus prior year on a reported basis and 11.3% excluding the impact of foreign exchange. Our RFP flow set a new quarterly record. It was up sequentially 15% versus Q4 2022. Operationally, attrition levels have continued to decline, and they are now, in fact, back to pre-pandemic levels or slightly below that. Site selection was up double digits year over year. This increased productivity helped mitigate the unfavorable impact of the staff shortages at investigator sites that we spoke about in prior calls. RNDS organic revenue growth at constant currency, excluding COVID-related work, was 17% in the quarter. That was well above the upper end of our expectations. Within TAS, we continue to see some client cautiousness related to discretionary spending. TAS growth for the quarter was 6% organic at constant currency, excluding COVID-related work, and that was within our expectations, but towards the lower end. In summary, Industry demand remains healthy despite some cautiousness in discretionary spending, mostly in the short cycle businesses. The diversification of our businesses allows us to balance the current slow short cycle growth with the resilience of our long cycle businesses, demonstrating that IQVIA is a company that can operate effectively under different macro environments. And with that, as context, let me review the first quarter results. Revenue for the first quarter grew 2.4% on a reported basis, 4.7% at constant currency, and compared to last year, and excluding COVID-related work from both periods, we grew the top line as a company 11% at constant currency on an organic basis. First quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 4.8% driven by revenue growth and ongoing cost management discipline. First quarter adjusted diluted EPS of $2.45 declined slightly as expected, driven by the one time step up in interest rates. Excluding interest expense and the UK tax rate headwinds that we discussed in a prior call, Our adjusted diluted EPS growth exceeded 9%. I'd like to share a few highlights of business activity in the quarter. Within TAS, a top 10 pharma awarded IQVIA our first omnichannel marketing deal in the Asia-Pacific region. IQVIA's omnichannel marketing program provides client teams with AI ML-powered insights, and recommendations to deliver effective personalized digital engagements with HCPs. In a quarter, IQVIA won an award for our in-home patient services offering. This biotech client is launching a new MS treatment and selected IQVIA based on our ability to deliver testing and monitoring to the patient's home. These differentiated capabilities ease the burden for patients with limited mobility. Moving to the real-world part of our task business, IQVIA was awarded a major post-authorization safety study to assess the impact and outcomes of prescribing a certain asthma drug to pregnant women with severe asthma. We won this large contract with a top 10 pharma client due to the breadth of our capabilities, including our relevant experience in safety trials, our strong data and analytics capabilities, and increased delivery efficiency with faster patient enrollment. Also in the quarter, we were awarded a large global intervention study with a top 10 pharma to identify high-risk cardiovascular patients by measuring the prevalence of high-sensitivity C-reactive protein. This protein is produced by the liver in response to inflammation in the body. Elevated levels of this protein in the blood are associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease, including heart attack and stroke. Acuvia was selected based on our ability to connect lab and clinical capabilities with therapeutic and real-world expertise in a cost-efficient manner. This study will have a significant impact on the future management of cardiovascular patients. Moving to RNDS. Continued strong momentum with our 2.6 billion of net new bookings in the quarter, translating into a book-to-bill of 128 in the quarter, which brings our LTM book-to-bill to 135. A few highlights in the quarter. Oncology continues to be our largest therapeutic area, and in the quarter, a high-profile, cutting-edge biotech company entered into a strategic partnership with IQVIA. This is a big deal. In fact, we were already awarded our first trial, which is for a novel bispecific antibody with potential development opportunities across several tumor types. Bispecific antibodies are designed to bind two different target molecules simultaneously. This project will leverage our end-to-end clinical trial solution, including protocol design, specialized medical and regulatory expertise, biomarker development, and our integrated clinical operations, analytics, and technology. We really are the only company with the ability to bring together these capabilities, which in turn help the client optimize trial design and reduce time to market. Importantly, going forward, this partnership creates multiple opportunities within this client's large oncology portfolio. We continue to have strong success with our clinical FSP trials business with several recent notable wins, including a significant preferred provider award with a major pharma. This was a competitive win against two incumbents, and it further diversifies our portfolio of FSP clients and increases our share in that segment. We continue to deploy innovations in our clinical technology suite, Most recently, we introduced a new cloud-based platform within our research site network that will streamline document workflows and allow real-time collaboration among study teams. We already deployed this new technology to approximately 15% of IQVIA network sites across 28 countries, and we expect to deploy to 40% of our sites in the next 12 months. The goal of deploying this technology at the site is to increase site productivity, which frees up more time for site support, compliance reviews, and continuous monitoring of patient safety and study quality, all of which are very important, especially in an environment where we experience staff shortages at the site. Finally, a couple of nice accolades for our global IQvia team. First, I am proud to share that our lab business received the prestigious Singaporean President's Certificate of Commendation, which is awarded to organizations that had a significant impact in the fight against COVID-19. In fact, five of our employees in Singapore received the Public Service Medal Award for their outstanding contributions to manage the impact of the pandemic. This is a nice recognition of the unique role we play in supporting public health. Second, our Scotland-based lab business recently achieved a global green lab certification for its commitment to practicing sustainable science. This certification is recognized by the United Nations quote-unquote race to zero global campaign as the international gold standard for lab sustainability best practices towards a zero carbon future. I will now turn it over to Ron for more details on our financial performance.
spk11: Thanks, Ari, and good morning, everyone. Let's start by reviewing revenue. First quarter revenue of $3,652,000,000 grew 2.4% on a reported basis and 4.7% at constant currencies. In the quarter, COVID-related revenues were approximately $150 million, which was down about $230 million versus the first quarter of 2022. In our base business, that is excluding all COVID-related work from both this year and last, organic growth at constant currency was 11%. Technology and analytics solutions revenue was $1,444 million, up 0.3% reported and 2.9% at constant currency. Excluding all COVID-related work, organic growth at constant currency in TAS was 6%. R&D solutions revenue of $2,026,000,000 was up 4.8% reported in 6.5% at constant currency, and excluding all COVID-related work, organic growth at constant currency in R&DS was 17%. Finally, contract sales and medical solutions, or CSMS, revenue of $182,000,000 declined 6.7% reported and 1% at constant currency. I mean, excluding all COVID-related work, the organic growth decline at constant currency was also 1% in CSMS. Let's move down to P&L. Adjusted EBITDA was $851 million for the first quarter. That's growth of 4.8%. Gap net income was $289 million, and gap diluted earnings per share was $1.53. Adjusted net income was $462 million, and adjusted earnings per share diluted was $2.45. Now, as Ari highlighted, R&D Solutions continues its strong momentum. This graph shows the growth of our backlog over the past three years, which demonstrates the sustained growth of our clinical business. Our backlog at March 31 stood at a record $27.9 billion, which was up over 40% over the last three years and growing 10% year over year. Okay, reviewing the balance sheet. At March 31, cash and cash equivalents total $1,494,000,000. Gross debt was $13,176,000,000 and that resulted in net debt of $11,682,000,000. Our net leverage ratio ended the quarter at 3.4 times trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA. First quarter cash flow from operations was strong at $417 million, and CapEx was $164 million, resulting in free cash flow of $253 million. In the quarter, we repurchased $129 million of our shares, and that leaves us with slightly over $1.2 billion remaining under the current program. Okay, let's go now to guidance. Guidance for the full year 2023 remains unchanged. We continue to expect revenue excluding COVID-related work to grow organically at constant currency between 9 and 11 percent. This revenue guidance continues to assume about 100 basis points of contribution from acquisitions and approximately $600 million of COVID-related revenue step down versus 2022. We're also reaffirming our guidance on adjusted EBITDA of $3,625,000,000 to $3,695,000,000. And that represents year-over-year growth of 8.3 to 10.4%. Lastly, we're reaffirming our guidance on adjusted diluted EPS of $10.26 to $10.56. And this adjusted diluted earnings per share guidance includes a year-over-year impact of the step-up in interest rates and the increase in the UK corporate tax rate. Together, these non-operational items impact the year-over-year growth rate by approximately 10 percentage points. Excluding these items, adjusted diluted earnings per share is expected to grow 11 to 14 percent. Let's move to our second quarter guidance. In Q2, we expect revenue to be between $3,675,000,000 and $3,750,000,000. That's growth of 3.7 to 5.8% on a constant currency basis and 3.8 to 5.9% on a reported basis. Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be between $850,000,000 and $875,000,000. which would be up 6.3 to 9.4 percent. And adjusted diluted EPS is expected to be between $2.30 and $2.44, declining 5.7 percent to flat on a year-over-year basis. Now, keep in mind that the second quarter is the toughest compare for interest expense because we had a very favorable $1 billion swap roll off on March 31, And it was also a year ago that rates started rising. So excluding the step up of an interest expense and the increased UK tax rate, we expect adjusted diluted EPS to grow between 8 and 13% in the second quarter. Now all of our guidance assumes that foreign currency rates as of April 25th continue for the balance of the year. So to summarize, Q1 was another solid quarter of financial performance. We delivered revenue growth of 11% organic, excluding the impact of foreign exchange and COVID-related work. Underlying demand in the industry and in our business remains healthy, with our RFPs accelerating in Q1 up 15% sequentially versus Q4 2022. Quarterly net new bookings were $2.6 billion, and our industry-leading backlog reached a new record of $27.9 billion. representing growth of over 10% year over year. We've been navigating well through the choppy macro environment and delivering on our numbers. Despite some of the cautiousness we've observed in the short cycle discretionary span, thanks to the resilience and the rest of the portfolio, which is mostly the long cycle and that's less affected by macro turbulence. Therefore, We are reaffirming our full year guidance of 9% to 11% organic revenue growth at constant currency excluding COVID-related work and 11% to 14% adjusted EPS growth excluding non-operational items. And with that, let me hand it back over to the operator for Q&A.
spk13: Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We request that you please limit yourself to just one question so that others in the queue may participate as well. We'll pause for a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Slomo Rosenbaum at Stifel. Your line is open.
spk05: Hi. Thank you very much for taking my questions. Ari, can you talk a little bit about the nature of the backlog burn? You had very strong bookings. You got strong book to bill. But the amount of revenue expected to or backlog to convert to revenue seems kind of consistent for this quarter to last quarter. Or is there any, is there a change of mix over there? Is that a rounding item? Or is there something else that might be going on over there?
spk01: Yeah, thank you, Shlomo. No, look, we had very strong bookings. It was one of our highest bookings quarter. And I wouldn't read anything. It's not the first time, by the way, that Q1 next 12 months revenue from bookings is essentially flat to Q4 next 12 months bookings. I can't detect any seasonality to that, but it's not the first time it happened. So I wouldn't read anything into it at all. It's just a question of mix. you know, amounts of pass-throughs that are, you know, taken into the quarter or delayed. And, you know, we're reverting to more regular mix of projects with, as you know, an increasing share in oncology, which typically burn a little slower. You know, that might have a little bit at the margins of an impact, but I wouldn't read anything into it.
spk12: Okay. Thank you. Thanks so much.
spk13: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Anne Samuel at JPMorgan. Your line is open.
spk03: Hi, thank you so much for taking the question. I was hoping maybe you could speak to some of the dynamics within the TAS business. You know, in the fourth quarter, the analytics and consulting business was impacted, but some of that maybe seemed like it was unique to December purchasing patterns. So how much of this is carryover from what you saw in the fourth quarter? And then, you know, what's driving your confidence that it's going to come back in the remainder of the year so that you can hit your guidance?
spk01: Yeah, thank you, Anne. It's a good question. Look, TAS growth in the first quarter was within the range we expected. You are correct that the guidance we gave on an organic constant currency ex-COVID basis for the year, I think our guidance is seven to nine percent, and therefore six percent clearly is right under that. But we did um you know tell you that we did fully expect q1 to be just under that so our expectations were more in the six to seven six to eight percent for the first quarter um and we expected a slower start as you suggest due to the cautiousness we saw in december um in customers discretionary spending um and so we assumed this was going to spill over as you suggest into the Q1 and that's why we assume a slower start in the year for this business. The reason why it's a little lower than our long-term growth expectation is due to the analytics and consulting business piece of TAS. That is about, I want to say, just under 25% of the total business in TAS. and as we said many times before is the shortest cycle and contains the most discretionary spend activity of the entire task portfolio so what we are seeing is not cancellations of projects not decisions to not uh conduct the projects for the most part these are projects that need to be done you know pricing and market access studies as an example have to be done at some point but the discretionary uh aspect applies to timing for the most part okay no one does projects that they don't need to do these are problems that need to be done but they don't need to be done right this second And we are seeing customers delaying decisions and pushing things to the right. That is what gives us confidence that in the latter part of the year, those projects would have to be done. So that's why we maintain our 7 to 9% organic constant currency ex-COVID guidance for the year. Now, we expect that cautiousness to continue into the second quarter. And we're assuming growth so far in line with the first quarter. Again, we're not seeing any customers walking away from projects or canceling anything. It's just consistent with what we saw at the end of Q4, delaying a project. We do expect the situation to improve in the second half because the pipelines are stronger and the customers eventually need to actually spend on those projects.
spk03: That's extremely helpful, caller. Thank you so much.
spk01: Thank you.
spk13: Your next question comes from the line of David Windley at Jefferies. Your line is open.
spk06: Thanks for taking my question. Good morning. Ari, I wondered if you could talk in the R&DS business, as you highlight strong bookings, I guess, seasonally different from the fourth quarter. The thing that we're seeing, I guess, in our data review is that a lot of studies, similar to what you're describing in TAS in consulting, that a lot of studies are kind of sitting in a limbo point and not moving forward into first patient in and kind of more productive revenue stages of the trial. And I wondered if you have some insights into that and if any of your tools can help to move those forward. Or is it kind of a funding and financial issue that is keeping them from moving forward? Be curious your views there.
spk01: Okay. Well, David, good morning, and thanks for the question. I want to use the opportunity to state as clearly and definitively as I can, we simply are not, I repeat, we are not seeing any of what you suggest. First of all, on the funding question, I don't know how many times I'm going to repeat it. I've been doing this for five quarters in a row. We are not seeing any funding issues. In my introductory remarks, I share some of the statistics. Actually, everything is up on the funding front. We are not seeing any delays, any unusual cancellations, any postponing of decision-making within our portfolio. It could be that others are seeing that. We just are not seeing it. Once again, the overall RFP flow is at a record high. It's up 15% sequentially versus Q4 of 22. Both the mid and the EBP segments are up strong double digits. I said before, it's up 15%. The qualified pipeline, which is, again, an even earlier indicator, is up almost, you know, 8%. It's actually over 8% year-over-year. And it's almost $15 billion with, again, a record qualified pipeline. The total pipeline is over 25 billion. Also, we need more than 5% growth year-over-year. $2.6 billion of net bookings in the quarter, you know, it's more than the entire backlog of some of our smaller competitors out there. Our book to be 128 is extremely strong in the current environment. And I think from what I've seen, the highest of any of our peers, our backlog is up more than 10% year over year. That's On the reported basis, excluding effects, it's up eleven point three percent. So, I, you know, again, I'm trying to share some metrics with you here. If we look at by segment again, it's across the board. Large means. I've got a lot of numbers here, but everything is honestly, everything is green here. Nick, you have any other color to add to this?
spk14: Yeah, I guess, Dave, I think the only thing I would say there is, you know, we saw your question sort of earlier this week and talked to the team, and we're not seeing any sort of slowdown in terms of clients not wanting to start trials. I mean, as soon as they're signing and pushing, you know, and getting ready, they are pushing trials forward. So, you know, we're not seeing any delays, clients trying to slow down starts. You know, we are seeing trials move forward and and not seeing the dynamics that you're asking about.
spk11: Yeah, and Dave, if there's any slowness anywhere, it's just in some of the execution because of the labor issues at some of the sites. That would be the one place where we could Burn faster, and the industry could burn faster if there weren't the labor issues at the site.
spk01: Right? And as I mentioned in my introductory remarks, we have been able to offset some of that unfavorable impact the stock shortages that Ron just brought up. And we talked about before, because site selection has been accelerating. I mentioned it was up double digits year over year. and that increased productivity uh helped us in the quarter and we expect we'll continue to do so the rest of the year we also i mentioned also in my introductory remarks are introducing rapidly more technology at the site in order to free up um personnel time and increase productivity Thank you.
spk06: Yeah, very, very fulsome answer. If I could just add to that, I mean, there's been a lot of companies this week that have attributed weakness to biotech. I mean, there are a lot of other companies seeing dramatic slowdowns. Maybe you could talk about how your positioning or your stage of the pipeline is different that also protects you from what they are seeing, Thermo, Danaher, Sartorius, et cetera.
spk01: Yeah, I mean, the answer is in your question. have a very strong momentum. We operate, the vast majority of what we do is in the sweet spot of the clinical trial process. You know, it's phase three stuff. We're not affected by the primate issue, zero, zero. And even if the primate issue continues for the next three years, you wouldn't see it at all in our numbers. We've already looked at that. And we continue to gain share. I know I gave examples on the FSP segment. It's true across the board in oncology. We just are winning in the marketplace with displaced incumbents in a number of occasions with large clients. I think, you know, I don't see any really, really no issues whatsoever. on the R&DS front, save for the execution and operational issues we have encountered. I mentioned that the attrition levels are coming down. I mean, I said before that the peak of the attrition, you know, a year ago or so, we had more than 20% attrition, which is horrendous. And we're now back to, I said, pre-pandemic levels. Actually, we're below that. We're just barely over 10%, which is amazing and very good. And that enables us to do a lot more work a lot faster. Thank you, David.
spk13: Yeah, thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Eric Caldwell at Baird. Your line is open.
spk07: Thanks. Good morning. I want to hit on reimbursables on a couple of fronts. First off, on revenue. With such a big COVID comp this quarter, I would have expected less reimbursable revenue. It looks like it actually grew quite a bit faster than service revenue. You know, what is the dynamic there? We're seeing mixed bag all over the industry in terms of the pass-through volatility. With that big COVID headwind, I would have expected less. You did more. Is there something underlying or outside of COVID exposure that's driving the reimbursables higher, or is it just company-specific contract timing?
spk01: Oh, okay. Well, look, on a four-year basis, we're expecting actually obviously less reimbursable expenses. because of the disappearance of the COVID work, which was, as you suggest, very high pass-through expenses for those COVID vaccine trials. You know, I wouldn't read much in the quarter because there's volatility and depends on the mix of what you executed. So I don't, I'm not, to be honest, the book to read is more or less similar to, we, I think you, I read your note Friday, as I religiously do that before the call, your first flash note, and you ask why we only reported our 606, our book to be at 128. And by the way, I asked the same question to the team when they gave me the first draft. And I agree with their rationale. As you've seen in recent quarters, essentially the numbers have tended to converge, which is essentially what we expected to happen. We will give you the breakdown or the X reimbursable expenses, book to bill, when we think there is a big discrepancy and it is significant and helps give you understanding of what happened in the quarter in terms of bookings. But if it's very close, as it was last quarter, as it is this quarter, we're just not going to do that. The change to 606 standard happened more than five years ago, and none of our competitors actually disclosed that level of granularity or report any extra reimbursable expenses of book-to-bill. But again, I wouldn't read any more here in the quarter. Nick or Ron, any Comment to your color on Eric's question.
spk11: Yeah, look, we did have a little bit higher revenue from pastors in the quarter, but as Ari says, I wouldn't read too much into the quarter to quarter and in over a longer time period. Your your analysis is correct with code work rolling off. There should be a decline in pass through revenues and yeah, exactly on the book to bill. We just, you know, we're what. you know, five years in, six, seven years in now since the change in the accounting. And, you know, we'll only talk to, on the book to bill, the services versus pass-through book to bill, or the 605 versus 606
spk01: when there's a significant difference to talk about and there wasn't this quarter yeah and eric the um just on the on the past was again we i mentioned we did execute um faster uh this this past quarter on on on our nds backlog it's true we burnt uh we accelerated uh that's you know we we that's this is why we recognize more revenue and as a result there was more more pass-through during the first quarter i don't know that it's going i don't think you'll see the same in the next few quarters based on the modeling I saw. Thank you.
spk07: If I, yeah, could I have one follow-up?
spk01: Normally, no, but it's you, so, you know. Go ahead.
spk07: Thank you. I just wanted to hit on cash flow and expectations for the year, and we're juggling three overlapping reports here, so I'm sorry if I missed this. Did you mention what the DSO was in the quarter?
spk11: No, we didn't give an explicit DSO number. In fact, we don't typically give a DSO number. You guys can back calculate. We were happy with the cash flow in the quarter. One thing I would want to remind everyone is in the first quarter, it's typically a week quarter for cash flow because most of our annual incentive comp is paid in the first quarter. Yeah, there's some tax impacts too. Incentive comp is probably the biggest.
spk01: I was very strong.
spk11: Yeah, it was strong. We were happy with our cash flow and not quite as strong as last year. But last year was an unusually strong 1st quarter for cash flow. Okay, yes.
spk01: So then you can improve. It's it's planning, right?
spk11: On a on a quarter to quarter basis is fairly flash on a year over year basis. It's up a little bit. And a lot of that has to do with the. burning through the COVID-related advances that we got. So, it was fully expected. Got it. Thanks very much.
spk13: I appreciate it. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Max Smock at William Blair. Your line is now open.
spk00: I just wanted to clarify your comment in response to one of Dave's questions earlier about the NHP situation. Just wanted to clarify that you said that you would not see any impact from the NHP shortage, even if it continues for the next three years. Just wondering, at some point, wouldn't it limit the number of drugs getting into later stage trials here? Just would be great to hear more about the work you've done internally to kind of evaluate your potential exposure over the next couple of years.
spk01: Thanks. Yeah. Again, in theory, yes, but we don't expect that to happen. I mean, there'll be eventually other models and they will become available. I mean, we're not worried about this at all.
spk11: Yeah, the three years just related to the length of time it takes to get from the discovery work into phase two and phase three trials. And there's a long delay between that. So, yeah, of course, theoretically, if there's a protracted issue, it affects everybody in the industry. We don't expect that to happen.
spk12: Okay, great. Thank you.
spk13: Your next question comes from the line of Sandy Draper at Guggenheim Securities. Your line is now open.
spk09: Thanks very much. I think it sounds like I need to get on Eric's distribution list so I can get his quick flash notes. I can't process fast enough to do that. So my question, Ari, or maybe Ron, is on the backlog burn. I'm trying to reconcile with what you were talking about in the answer to his question. My calculation did look like the backlog burn stepped down a little bit from the fourth quarter, from 8% to 7.4. My assumption was there's a little bit less sequentially in terms of reimbursables. So I just wanted to verify that. But then thinking about how you're expecting the backlog burn to play out as you have less COVID work, et cetera, which is faster burning. Do you think, is it reasonable to think stable off of this 7.4 or would it sort of trend down over the course of the year? Thanks.
spk11: Look, I wouldn't put a lot of, of uh emphasis on quarter to quarter backlog burn as you as you uh calculate it there it's not something that we pay a lot of attention to internally i can tell you um you'll get variations like in the uh you know fourth quarter we had very strong pass-through bookings which you know, pushes up the backlog some, but then those tend to burn later in the trial. And you'll see impacts like that affect, you know, any one quarter's, like, particularly the next quarter's burn rate. So overall, as Ari made the point, We tend to work on more complicated trials, and oncology trials in particular tend to be longer, slower burn trials. So we may have slower burn on average than some of the others in the industry based upon our particular mix of projects. But that's more a macro long-term consideration than it is a quarter-to-quarter sort of variation driver. Okay, great.
spk12: That's helpful. Thanks, Ron.
spk13: Your next question comes from the line of Charles Wright for TD Cowen. Your line is now open.
spk02: Hi, this is Lucas on for Charles. Want to dig into the task segment. You guys talked about consulting and analytics, seeing some softness in 1Q. You guys also called out some wins in real-world evidence. Can you talk more about the performance of the other offerings within tasks and how they performed in 1Q, more specifically real-world evidence and technology platforms?
spk11: Look, our real world in technology, we tend to talk about them together because they're the faster growers and continue to be very solid growers in the quarter. As Ari pointed out, it was the analytics and consulting business that really slowed down in the quarter because a lot of that is shorter cycle business. and can be delayed. You know, we've always talked about information being a slower grower, so you know about that. So you kind of piece it together. The difference versus prior quarters really relates to the analytics and consulting business, some of that shorter cycle business being delayed. It's really as simple as that. That's why we saw a little bit of a slowdown in the underlying core growth rate in the TAS business.
spk12: Next question.
spk13: Your next question comes from the line of Derek DeBruin at Bank of America. Your line is now open.
spk10: Hi, this is Wolf Chan off on for Derek. Thanks for taking our questions. So I know in the prepared remarks, you flagged that there's been a pickup of biotech M&A, which obviously is helping the funding environment. But I'm wondering what you're seeing in terms of the larger of the acquirer than reducing the R&D spend at the target. Is there any impact to you from that? Yeah, if you could just explore those dynamics, that'd be great. Thank you.
spk01: Yeah, thank you. Just to clarify, the has nothing to do with funding. It's not included in the funding numbers. So these are two different and independent points. The heightened MNA activity is a plus, obviously, and is a tailwind for us as, you know, we've got large clients that are buying molecules for which work needs to be done. So this is generally a favorable trend for us. Thank you.
spk12: Next question, please.
spk13: Your next question comes from the line of Dan Leonard at Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.
spk08: Thank you. I was just hoping you could revisit that comment you made that RFPs grew 15% sequentially. I assume that's a volume number. And is there any difference between RFP volume trends and value trends? Thank you.
spk01: Thank you. No, your assumption is incorrect. The growth numbers we mentioned are in dollars.
spk14: Yeah, so all the growth numbers that we've given Dan on the call are all dollar-based. It's not a volume. Got it. Perfect.
spk11: And that's how we tend to track it because that's what's important.
spk12: Yes. Thank you.
spk13: Your next question comes from the line of Elizabeth Anderson at Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.
spk04: Hi, guys. Thanks so much for the question. I know you said you just talked about it in terms of total dollar values. I was just wondering if you could comment on the contribution in terms of pricing in R&DF to the dollars this year. And then secondly, just in terms of the pacing of TAS revenue over the back half of the year, are you still thinking we should see that continue to accelerate and be sort of in that like sort of mid to high single-digit type range? Thank you.
spk01: Yeah. The comment on TAS is just correct. That's our expectation currently based on the pipeline. What was the first question?
spk14: I'm sorry.
spk01: Yeah, I didn't hear your first question, Elizabeth.
spk14: I'm sorry.
spk04: Sure. It was just in terms of the contribution of sort of increases in pricing that could have contributed to the first quarter revenue results on a year-over-year basis.
spk01: was nothing, it was negligible.
spk14: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say it's anything large, Elizabeth. I mean, again, you've got to remember trials are, you know, from three to five years. It takes a while for all the pricing to, you know, pick up. You know, we don't get that all up, you know, and get it all up front. So, you know, the pricing has, you know, bleeds in over the course of the trials.
spk04: Got it. Thank you.
spk14: Okay. And we will take one more question, please.
spk13: Thank you. Your final question comes from the line of Justin Bowers at Douche Bank. Please go ahead.
spk15: Hey, thank you, and good morning. Just sort of a two-parter, one with RWE. Are you seeing any change in the velocity of demand there for that business here in the marketplace that IRA might be a bit of a tailwind for that? And then can you also sort of educate us a little bit on the lead time between when market access and pricing studies are done and, you know, with respect to FDA approvals. Thank you.
spk01: Yeah, thank you, Justin. On the first question, Nick Jovany.
spk14: He said the growth on real-world evidence can say nothing different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remains strong.
spk01: Remains very strong. Same, same. Nothing, really nothing changed on the real world side. On the, it really, really varies. There are clients who like to start even before FDA approval, sometimes well before, you know, when the early results are strong, the data is good in the trial, you know, they get, they want to get prepared. And we do those studies early. Sometimes it's around the time of the approval. Sometimes it's a little later. Again, it depends. By the way, it depends on the market. Some clients may decide to introduce a drug in Europe or in some markets in Europe before others, etc. And it has to do with when the approvals in specific geographies occur. So it really varies. There's no
spk15: a set lead time and that's why again quote unquote is discretionary it's going to have to be done but you could delay when you do it yeah i appreciate it and just just on rwe just some of the things we're picking up in the field is that sponsors are um leaning into those more or are thinking about leaning into those more um as it relates to you know the ir legislation and And if I may, just on RDS, just a quick follow-up there. Are you guys, on the market share gains that you're making there, is there any specific area, or are you seeing it across the board in both full-service and FSPs?
spk01: Okay, Justin, thank you for your four questions. And I'm just going to answer briefly the last one, and then I suggest that the team will be available here the rest of the day and the next few days to answer any further questions. But on your questions about market share, there's no – No way around it. I've said it before and we again did it this quarter. We have the highest book-to-bill ratio around on the largest base of revenue. You can assume that there is a gain share that's ongoing. The specific segments I mentioned in my introductory remarks in oncology, we know we are growing a lot faster and we are gaining share. That's by therapeutic area. And then in terms of the segments, Again, it's across the board, but it was particularly significant this past quarter in FSP as well. So that's the power I can give you on share. Thank you. Thanks so much.
spk13: At this time, there are no further questions. Mr. Childs, I turn the call back over to you.
spk14: Thank you, everyone, for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking to you again on our second quarter. earnings call. Myself and the team will be available the rest of the day to take any other follow-up questions you might have. Thanks, everyone.
spk13: Thank you. This concludes today's conference call.
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