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Illinois Tool Works Inc.
1/31/2020
Good morning. My name is Julianne and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key. For those participating in the Q&A, you'll have the opportunity to ask one question and, if needed, one follow-up question. Thank you. Karen Fletcher, Vice President of Investment Relations. You may begin your conference.
Okay. Thank you, Julianne. Good morning and welcome to ITW's fourth quarter 2019 conference call. I'm joined with our Chairman and CEO Scott Santi and Senior Vice President and CFO Michael Larson. During today's call, we will discuss fourth quarter and full year 2019 financial results and provide guidance for full year 2020. Slide two is a reminder that this presentation contains our financial forecast for 2020 as well as other forward-looking statements identified on this slide. We refer you to the company's 2018 form 10-K for more detail about important risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. This presentation uses certain non-GAAP measures, and a reconciliation of those measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is contained in the press release. Finally, I'd like to remind folks we have our Investor Day coming up six weeks from today on March 13th in Fort Worth, Texas. We encourage you to join us or listen to the webcast for an update on our strategy and long-range plans. A link to access the webcast is posted on our Investor website. So please turn to slide three, and it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to our Chairman and CEO Scott Santi. Thank
you, Karen, and good morning, everyone. The ITW team delivered another quarter of solid operational execution and strong financial performance in Q4. Despite some broad-based macro challenges, we delivered GAAP EPS growth of 9%, operating margin of 23.7%, and after-tax return on invested capital of .9% in the quarter. For the full year, against the backdrop of an industrial demand environment that went from decelerating in the first half of the year to contracting in the second half of the year, we continued to execute well in the things within our control. As a result, despite revenues that were down $700 million or .5% -on-year, we delivered record GAAP EPS of 7.74, expanded operating margin to .4% excluding highly restructuring expenses, and grew free cash flow by 9%. In addition, we were able to raise our dividend by 7% and return $2.8 billion to shareholders in the form of dividends and share repurchases. Equally important, in 2019 we continued to make solid progress on our path to ITW's full potential performance through the execution of our enterprise strategy. Last year we invested more than $600 million to support the execution of our strategy and further enhance the growth and profitability performance of our core businesses. In addition, each of our divisions continued to make progress in executing well-defined and focused plans to achieve full potential performance in their respective businesses. We look forward to providing a full progress update on our enterprise strategy and our progress towards ITW's full potential performance at our investor day in March. Looking ahead, ITW's powerful and proprietary business model, diversified high-quality business portfolio, and dedicated team of highly skilled ITW colleagues around the world are in a position as well to continue to deliver differentiated performance across a range of economic scenarios in 2020 and beyond. Now I'll turn the call over to Michael, who will provide you with more detail on our Q4 and full year 2019 performance as well as our guidance for 2020. Michael.
Thank you, Scott, and good morning, everyone. In the fourth quarter, organic revenue declined .6% -over-year in what remains a pretty challenging demand environment. The strike at GM reduced our enterprise organic growth rate by approximately 50 basis points, and product line simplification was 60 basis points in the quarter. By geography, North America was down 2%, and international was down 1%. Europe declined 1% while Asia-Pacific was flat. Organic growth in China was broad-based across our portfolio and up 7% -over-year. As expected, our execution on the elements within our control remained strong in the fourth quarter. Operating margin was 23.7%, including 40 basis points of unfavorable margin impact from higher restructuring expenses -over-year. Excluding those higher expenses, operating margin was up 10 basis points to 24.1%. Enterprise initiatives contributed 130 basis points, and price cost was positive 30 basis points. Gap EPS was up 9% to $1.99 and included an 11-cent gain from three divestitures and 6-cent headwind from higher restructuring expenses -over-year and foreign currency translation impact. The effective tax rate in the quarter was 22.8%. Free cash flow was 114% of net income, and as planned, we repurchased $375 million of our own shares during the quarter. Overall, Q4 was another quarter characterized by strong operational execution and resilient financial performance in a pretty challenging demand environment. Let's move to slide 4 and operating margin. Overall, operating margin of .7% was down 30 basis points -over-year, primarily due to higher restructuring expense. Excluding those higher restructuring expenses, margin improved 10 basis points despite a 3% decline in revenues. Enterprise initiatives were once again the highlight and key driver of our margin performance, contributing 130 basis points, the highest level since the fourth quarter of 2017. The enterprise initiative impact continues to be broad-based across all seven segments, ranging from 80 to 200 basis points, and the benefits of the restructuring activities that we initiated earlier in the year are being realized. The majority of these restructuring projects are supporting enterprise initiative implementation, specifically our AD20 -to-back execution. Price remained solid, with price well ahead of raw material costs, and price cost contributed 30 basis points in the quarter. Volume leverage was negative 30 basis points. In Q4, as we always do, we updated our inventory standards to reflect current raw material costs. As raw material costs in the aggregate have declined over the course of the year, the annual -to-market adjustment to the value of our inventory that we do every fourth quarter this year had an unfavorable impact of 30 basis points versus last year. We also had a favorable item last year that didn't repeat this year for 40 basis points, and finally the other category, which includes typical wage and salary inflation, was 50 basis points. So overall, solid margin performance again for the quarter and the year. Turn to slide five for details on segment performance. As you know, 2019 was challenging from an industrial demand standpoint, and you can see that the organic growth rate in every one of our seven segments was lower in 2019 than in 2018. At the enterprise level, the organic growth rate swung from positive 2% in 2018 to down 2% in 2019, with the biggest -on-year swings in our capex-related equipment offerings and automotive. Speaking of automotive, let's move to the individual segments results, starting with automotive OEM. Organic revenue was down 5% as the GM strike reduced revenues by approximately two percentage points. Taking a closer look at regional performance, North America was in line with D3 bills, down 13%. Europe was essentially flat versus bills that were down 6%, and China organic growth was 11% compared to bills of one. The continued significant outgrowth in China reflects increasing penetration, particularly with local OEMs. Moving on to slide six, food equipment had a good quarter with organic growth up 2% year over year, despite a tough comp of 5% organic growth last year. The service business was solid, up 4% in the quarter. Equipment growth of 1% reflects double-digit growth in retail and modest decline in institutional and restaurants against tough -over-year comps for both of those. Operating margin expanded 90 basis points to 27.5%, with Enterprise Initiatives the main contributor. Test and measurement and electronics had a very strong quarter, with test and measurement up 6%, with 13% growth in our in-strong business. The segment also experienced a meaningful pick-up in demand from semiconductor customers. Electronics was up 2%. Margin was the highlight as the team expanded operating margin 330 basis points to a record 28.1%, the highest in the company this quarter, with strong contributions from Enterprise Initiatives and Volume Leverage. Also in the quarter, we divested an electronics business with 2019 revenues of approximately $60 million. Turning to slide seven, welding organic revenue declined 4% against a tough comparison of 8% growth last year. North America equipment was down 3% against a tough comparison of up 7% last year. The lower demand is primarily in the industrial business, while commercial, which includes smaller business and personal users, was pretty stable. Oil and gas was down 2%. Operating margin was 25.4%, down 150 basis points, primarily due to higher restructuring expenses. In the quarter, we divested an installation business with 2019 revenues of approximately $60 million, which reduced overall growth rate by 250 basis points in the quarter. Parmas and fluids organic growth was down 2% versus a tough comp of plus 4% last year. Parmas was flat, automotive aftermarket was down 1%, fluids was down 6%. Operating margin was strong, up 150 basis points, driven primarily by Enterprise Initiatives. Moving to slide eight, construction organic revenue was down 1% with continued softness in Australia and New Zealand, which was down 4%. Europe was down 3%, with the UK down 14%. North America was up 2%, with residential remodel up 2% and commercial up 5%. Operating margin was .2% down due to the inventory -to-market adjustments and higher restructuring expenses. In specialty, organic revenue was down 3%, which on a positive note is an improvement from the past couple quarters. As in prior quarters, the main drivers are significant PLS and the relative performance of the businesses we have identified as potential divestitures. Excluding these potential divestitures, core organic growth was down 1.7%. By geography, North America was down 4% and International 3%. We also divested a business in this segment with 2019 revenues of approximately $15 million. And these divestitures reduced specialties or growth rate by almost a percentage point. Now let's quickly review full year 2019 on slide nine. In a challenging industrial demand environment, organic revenue was down 1.9%, with total revenues down .5% as foreign currency translation impact reduced revenues by 2.3%. And divestitures by 30 basis points. Gap EPS was 7.74 and included 9 cents of divestiture gains, as well as 32 cents of headwinds from foreign currency and higher restructuring expenses year over year. Operating margin was 24.1%, .4% excluding higher -on-year restructuring expense as enterprise initiatives contribute 120 basis points. After tax return on invested capital improved 50 basis points to 28.7%. Our cash performance was very strong with free cash flow up 9% and a conversion rate of 106% of net income. We made significant internal investments to grow and support our highly profitable businesses, increased our annual dividend by 7%, and utilized our share repurchase program to return surplus capital to our shareholders. A quick update on our various divestiture processes that overall remain on track. As a reminder, we're looking to potentially divest certain businesses with revenues totaling up to a billion dollars and are targeted to complete the effort by year end 2020. The strategic objective with this phase of our portfolio management effort is to improve our overall organic growth rate by 50 basis points and improve margins by approximately 100 basis points. Not counting potential gains on sales, the plan is to offset any EPS dilution with incremental share repurchases. In the fourth quarter, we completed the sale of three businesses with combined 2019 revenues of approximately 135 million, generating a pre-tax gain on sale of $50 million or 11 cents a share. In 2019, these businesses were 20 basis points dragged to our organic growth rate and 10 basis points to our margin rate. In summary, in a challenging demand environment, the ITW team executed well and delivered strong financial results, made solid progress on our enterprise strategy and agenda, including our organic growth initiatives, and positioned the company for differentiated performance in 2020 and beyond. On slide 10, we wanted to give you a quick update on the progress that we're making on our organic growth initiatives. We estimated the aggregate market growth rate or decline for each one of our segments and compared it to the segment's actual organic growth rate in 2019. We also included product line simplification by segment. As you know, full potential steady state PLS is expected to be about 30 basis points. As you can see, overall, we've made some good progress as our segments are all outgrowing their underlying markets, except for specialty products. At the enterprise level, we estimate that we outpaced our aggregate blended market growth rates by approximately one percentage point. So overall, good progress on our organic growth initiatives and by completing our finish the job agenda over the next several years, we expect to generate one or two percentage points of additional improvement in ITW's organic growth rate. As Scott mentioned, we look forward to providing a full progress update at our investor day in March. Now let's talk, let's turn the page and talk about 2020, starting with slide 11. First, we expect gap EPS in the range of 765 to 805 for 2020. Using current levels of demand adjusted for seasonality, organic growth at the enterprise level is forecast to be in the range of 0 to 2 percent for the year. At current exchange rates, foreign currency translation impact and the revenue associated with our 2019 divestitures, each of a one percentage point headwind to revenue. PLS impact is expected to be approximately 50 basis points. We expect to expand operating margin from 24.1 percent in 2019 to a range of 24.5 to 25 percent in 2020, with enterprise initiatives contributing approximately 100 basis points. After tax, RRIC should improve to a range of 29 to 30 percent, and as usual, we expect strong free cash flow with conversion greater than net income. We have allocated two billion dollars to share repurchases with core share repurchases of 1.5 billion and additional 500 million to offset the EPS dilution from the three completed divestitures. Additional items include an expected tax rate in the range of 23.5 to 24.5 percent, which represents a 10 percent 10 cents EPS headwind and foreign currency at today's rates is also unfavorable 10 cents of EPS. Just a quick word as it relates to the coronavirus situation in China. We're obviously in the same position as everyone else. At this point, we've baked into our guidance a last week of production, assuming that we all return to work in China on February 10th. But obviously, it's too early to tell and we'll continue to monitor the situation closely. Overall, ITW is well positioned for differentiated financial performance across a wide range of scenarios as we continue to execute on the things within our control and make meaningful progress in our path to full potential performance through the implementation of our finished job. Enterprise strategy agenda. Finally, we're providing an organic growth outlook by segment for full year 2020 on slide 12. And as always, these are based on current run rates adjusted for seasonality and are obviously influenced by year over year comparisons as we go through the year. It's important to note that there's no expectation of demand acceleration embedded in our guidance. You can see that every segment is forecast to improve their organic growth rate in 2020 relative to 2019. The same is true for margins as every segment expects to improve the margin performance in 2020. With that, Karen, I'll turn it back to you.
All right. Thanks, Michael. Julian, we're ready to open up the lines for Q&A.
At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star than the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Andrew Kaplowitz from Citi. Your line is open.
Hey, good morning, guys. Good morning. Scott or Mike, you had a big pick up at Instron in the quarter and in food equipment, which are capex businesses that you've tended to watch over the years. So while recognizing all the uncertainty that's out there now because of the virus, maybe still some trade uncertainty, did you actually see some movement in capex decisions from your customers? What does that tell you about 2020?
Well, I think Q4, certainly the growth rates in those businesses were better than what we saw in Q3. Part of that was a number of orders in Q3 that were deferred into Q4. And so I think it's in our view, it's a little too early to talk about a pick up in demand here in those businesses. Certainly encouraging, but a little too early to tell, Andy.
Okay, that's helpful. And then, you know, if I look at your enterprise strategy program, your margin benefits seem to be accelerating here. You know, as these programs get mature, you would think that maybe they'd level off or decelerate. So I know you have your analyst day coming up. You'll talk about this. But you're just continuing to get better on 80-20 as you evolve the enterprise strategy. Is that really what this is? And do you expect your -1-4 minute balance strategy to be at least 100 basis points through that target date of 2023?
Well, I mean, I think that's one year at a time here. I think the fact that we are, you know, eight years into this current enterprise strategy and still generating 100 basis points of margin expansion is in 2020 is certainly encouraging. We've talked about before why that is. You know, 80-20 today is significantly more powerful than when we began this journey. We've continued to learn and gotten better from an execution standpoint. The raw materials that we're working with in terms of the quality of the businesses is significantly higher after all the work we've done in the portfolio. And so I think we're really encouraged by the continued progress. We're highly confident that we will reach our 2023 performance goals. 80-20 will be a big will continue to be a big part of that. But it's a little too early to tell what those contributions might be in 2021 and 2022. But you can rest assured that we are highly confident in achieving those margin objectives we've put out there.
Thanks, Mike. Appreciate it,
guys. Your next question comes from Jeff Sprague from Vertical Research. Your line is open.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Good to see the divestiture activity picking up. Is it just that some things kind of fell in place or do you expect actually the pace to be accelerated here? And can you remind us how many individual businesses are left? Right. So these are all kind of one at a time transactions, I would take it.
Yeah, I think this is the cadence here was in line with the process that we've laid out. We've got a number of businesses. So three divestitures completed. I think when we file the 10K, you'll see that there are another three at this point that are in that held for sale category. And then there will be a number of businesses beyond that. So we're making good progress in a little bit more challenging macro than what we had expected maybe going into this. But the most important... Which has slowed the process
down a bit.
Yeah, I think I was going to say, you know, it's probably slowed things down maybe a little bit. I think the really important thing is we're still on track to achieve the 50 basis points of structural improvement in our organic growth rate and 100 basis points of margin improvement. Current expectation, we're targeting to get those done by the end of 2020. We certainly have a shot at that. But as Scott said, I mean, just given the macro backdrop that might get pushed out a little bit. But overall, these processes are on track.
On the flip side of that, obviously, you've been hunting for deals. Given that you're kind of a cash rich strategic buyer, do you see things kind of getting easier? Is the pipeline filling up? Like what would you really expect to happen here in 2020 on the acquisition side?
Well, I think we have certainly been more active from the standpoint and we've talked about it before in terms of our willingness to consider adding to the portfolio the right kind of assets. And we're certainly, let's just call it, knocked up our activity in that regard in 2019. As is obvious, we didn't hit on anything yet in that regard. And it's a combination always of sort of the fit in terms of strategy and also sort of the valuation environment. And I would say the overall color in 2019 is we looked at some things that were interesting strategically that from a valuation standpoint didn't hit the screen, didn't meet the criteria, and we will continue to be active in assessing opportunities to add to our portfolios as we have talked about in the past. But we're going to remain a very disciplined posture in that regard. And I have no doubt that we will very successfully add to our portfolio as we go. Great. Thanks for the call.
Your next question comes from Meg Dobre from Baird. Your line is open.
Good morning, everyone. Just a quick question on the margin guidance. Have you factored in any restructuring at this point?
Yeah, so at this point, Meg, we're guiding to margins for 2020 in that 24.5 to 25 percent range, which includes restructuring. So on a -over-year basis, at this point, we're assuming that restructuring will be flat. And obviously, we'll see how the year plays out and adjust accordingly.
Flat in dollar terms or in terms of margin drag?
Flat in dollar terms and margin drag,
and
therefore EPS neutral.
Okay. My follow-up, I'm just trying to kind of wrap my mind on the buckets here. So if I'm looking at the low end of your guidance, the 24.5, I'm presuming that that's consistent with the low end of the revenue guidance or the volume that you're providing. And I'm comparing it to sort of what you've done in the prior year. Can you maybe help me with a bit of a bridge here? So obviously, you've got the enterprise initiatives for 100 basis points that help. But there are some other items, too. Price, cost, maybe some other things that you're doing. How do we get to the high end and the low end
here? So Meg, are you talking EPS or margins? What would you like to do? Just
margin, not EPS, just margin.
Yeah. Yeah. So I think for 2020, we provided quite a bit of information already. And maybe one way to think about it is the initiatives contribute 100 basis points. You know, we have positive volume leverage baked into our guidance. You can look at historically, you know, based on your organic growth rate, what the impact might be there. Price, cost, we're assuming neutral at this point, maybe slightly positive. We'll see how that plays out. The divestitures that we completed in 2019, that is a little bit of favorability to margins. And then I'd say the remainder here is, you know, we're going to continue to invest to support our organic growth initiatives. We're going to invest in our people and we're going to invest to sustain our core businesses, as we always have. And so if you kind of look at the remaining buckets, you know, 2020 may be expected to be similar to what we had in 2019.
Got it. That's helpful. And lastly, if I may, as you look at your segments into 2020, are there one or two that stand out to you as having more margin potential than margin expansion potential than average? Thanks.
Yeah, I think this is really, you know, across the board, as I think I said in my comments, we expect every one of our segments based on our bottoms up planning process, based on what they have told us, really at the division level on up. We expect every segment to continue to make progress in 2020 over 2019.
And I'd say that the other delta is what you talked about before, which is the volume leverage component, right? The more growth we get, the more increasing the margin we're going to get.
Yeah, and I think you saw a good example of that. You know, this quarter, if you look at just the performance in test and measurement, margins up, you know, 330 basis points, two thirds of that was, you know, the volume leverage and the enterprise initiatives. So you can see what happens in these businesses when we get a little bit of volume, a little bit of organic growth coming through.
So. All right. Fair enough. Thank you.
Your next question comes from and Digman from JP Morgan. Your line is open.
Hi, good morning.
Good morning.
Morning. Just looking at your segment organic growth forecast, could you just walk us through the various segments and where you see the upside versus the downside risks?
Well, you know, I'd say these are these are all, first of all, based on kind of current run rates. And so I think there are a couple of segments here that have a slightly wider range automotive OEM, welding, which reflects maybe a little more market uncertainty in those. I think food equipment, test and measurement, those look pretty solid food equipment in that two to four range test and measurement one to three. And then, you know, you can see the rest here, palmas and fluids construction specialty kind of in that low single digit at the midpoint. So that's kind of I think how we characterize it. I mean, as you know, this is a pretty uncertain environment. Right. I mean, this is 2019 is a challenging year. 2020. You know, we've got to we have to see how this China situation plays out that we just talked about. And so as we sit here today, this is kind of our current forecast using the current levels of demand that we're seeing in these businesses.
Yeah. And in that context, I mean, you're much closer to these businesses than we are, obviously. But then polymer and fluids, I think of that business as being more consumer driven. And so can you just talk about what is causing the guidance for on the downside, the negative one?
Well, I think that so palmas and fluids, there's about half of the businesses when you say consumer driven, you're pointing, I think, to the automotive aftermarket business. If you just look at kind of where retail numbers are in that space, they're probably down slightly. We've had some some challenges this year on the MRO side, particularly more B2B, which is that now we're more B2B, the fluids business on the MRO side, particularly in Europe. And then you also have a couple of other end markets that are not exactly very favorable at this point, including some petrochemical exposure, there's some marine exposure. And so overall, we'd say palmas and fluids flat in 2019 and slightly positive here in 2020.
OK, I appreciate the color and I'll get back into you. Thank you.
All right. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Andy Casey from Wells Fargo Securities. Your line is open.
Thanks. Good morning. Morning. For a little bit of a clarification on the margin walk, you called out several things, inventory restructuring, non-repeat of an item. Would those in the past typically be included in other?
Yes, that is correct.
OK, thank you. So the inventory adjustment,
so just say, sorry, I need to interrupt you, but the inventory adjustment, it's one that we make every year. And it's just that this year, because raw material costs have come down, you know, throughout the year, that adjustment is a little bit larger than prior years as we mark to market the inventory. And so we decided to call it out as a separate item and kind of give you the transparency, the detail around that.
OK, thank you. And then a few questions on the divestitures. On your earlier comment about the slower pace than expected due to the macro, is that purely timing or are you encountering hesitancy from potential buyers of the assets because of the overall uncertainty? And then for the three in the for sale category you mentioned in the K, are they excluded from 2020 top line guidance? And what was their impact on 2019 margin performance?
Yes, so those, let me start with that one. So the ones that you'll see that are held for sale, we are assuming in our guidance that we are going to own those in 2020. So 2020 numbers exclude any further divestitures as well as any acquisitions. So this is really think of it as all in as we the businesses that we that we own today. I think on your first question, I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, I think some of these, it's it's an element of, you know, timing. And I also think the process is taking longer. Process is taking a little bit more longer. Maybe that has to do with, you know, the desire to do maybe more due diligence. And then I think the other pieces, the macro backdrop, there is some uncertainty. And so I think we've we've seen some of some of both of those. But and then I just say finally, I mean, we're going to be disciplined as we divest these businesses. And if this is not if this isn't the right time to do it, you know, from a valuation standpoint, we might defer some of these processes into next year. So we'll keep you posted as we go through the year and get on these earnings calls and we'll get you an update on the processes. Yeah, I'm just going to add these are all these are
all high quality businesses and certainly on a on a relative basis. They're not businesses that we think are the right fit for us long term, but these are not distressed businesses by any stretch. So these are quality assets that have certainly a lot of appeal. And as Michael said, you know, to the extent that the macro environment creates a situation where we don't think we're we're able to trade at fair value. So then we're going to we're going to wait to cycle out and we'll get there eventually. OK, we'll be able to do three so far. We've got another couple of reactions.
Yeah. OK, thanks. It just as a follow up on the three that are mentioned in the case. Should we expect those to have a similar type margin performance to the three that you have already been able to sell?
Yeah, I think they're all pretty similar. I mean, you know, there's a range. The average is maybe is the way to think about it is in that high single digits, you know, EBIT EBIT percentage. So that's that's one way to think about it.
OK, OK. Thank you very much.
Your next question comes from Ross Gillardy from Bank of America. Your line is open.
Good morning, guys. Thank you. Morning. I was just wondering, like, clearly, we're in a very choppy and challenging demand environment. But and you guys are continuing to expand margins even even with that. But how do we how do we how do you the company thinking about the three to five percent organic objectives? And, you know, at some point, it's become counterproductive to even be shooting for that in this type of environment. And can you remind us where do you get to in margin over the long term in just sort of a flattish environment like we're in right now versus the plus three to five?
Well, I think from the standpoint of our core growth rate objectives, what we are really saying essentially is that this is a business that should grow outgrow the underlying growth rates that the markets were in from anywhere from, you know, say, two to four percent on an average basis over time. We're in a situation right now where the market in our in our estimation of the blended market rate, these are sort of using our best assumptions was down two and a half last year. So, you know, in a normal, it's called a normal average GDP world of you pick whether it's two or three on a long term basis, then that's where the three to five essentially comes from in terms of the overall expectations that we have for this company. And there's nothing in this called industrial recessionary environment that would in any way change the view of what we think our long term potential is. This is a highly differentiated portfolio. We've talked before and again, we'll get into a lot more depth on this and at the investor day, but we've got the ability to generate at least the point of incremental growth from innovation. Another point from penetration is the simple math. That's the that's the bottom line standard that we're working to position ourselves to execute consistently on. We've got a lot of businesses that are already there and then some. So the last thing we'd want to do is take that point in time. You know, set of market conditions and ultimately get us off of our long term view of what we think the potential of this company is. I think from a margin standpoint, we've got I'll let Michael jump in here, but we've got a set of performance objectives out into the future that we've laid out in the past that we expect to to continue to make progress against.
Yeah, I think nothing has changed in terms of our view on the margin targets, as I said earlier. I mean, I think it might be helpful to the three to five. We know that we're not going to grow three to five every year. You know, this is, you know, over over a five year period. We'd expect kind of an enormous macro. That's the performance that we should be able to to deliver. And with that comes the margins in that 28 percent range and, you know, UPS growth and in the low double digit. They're all everything that we've laid out for twenty twenty three. So our views on those haven't changed, just given the macro that we're in today.
No, thanks. Thanks, guys. No, I realize you're still outgrowing your end markets. I wasn't trying to pick on you for that at all. I was just trying to with respect to your long term margin target, really just to remind me how much of that getting there was was coming from your ability to hit the three to five versus if we're just in a flattish environment for the next several years.
Yeah, I mean, again, I think that, you know, the the biggest driver here remains, you know, the continued strong execution on the enterprise initiatives. And then there's a there's a reasonable assumption of some volume leverage that comes with that. And you saw that, like I said earlier, if you look at test and measurements, great example this quarter, you get a little bit of volume leverage. You know, we get a normal macro environment. We're going to get there very quickly. You know, I think that's what we're trying to say here. And, you know, over any five year period, you know, we expect that we'll average in that three to five range. But if we get a couple of really good years, we'll get there faster than that.
Okay. Since you mentioned you reminded us of the semiconductors and I realize you aren't factoring any pickup into your guide, but just you know, .T.W. is obviously a great barometer for capital spending in general in the global economy. Are you seeing any signs of capex picking up anywhere or percolating or, you know, where it feels like discussions are getting a little bit more optimistic in any of your businesses?
No, no, not at this point. I think, you know, Q4 was really more of the same. This remains a pretty challenging, pretty challenging environment. So.
Okay, got it. And then just the last thing I want to ask about is, you know, you've seen a return of the outgrowth in your European and China auto businesses. China now for a couple of quarters. Do you feel like you're you're back to the point where that is firmly kind of set to continue or does it feel kind of quarter to quarter at this point? And just given the weakness in the end market.
No, I. You know, China is very solid. I mean, I think we have a long track record. The team has a long track record of outgrowing the underlying market there by a wide margin. And as I think we said in the prepared remarks, you know, big drivers are continued penetration with local OEMs and there is a lot of runway still. And if you just look at the projects that have been locked in for the next two to three years, you know, we're confident that that outperformance will continue.
Yeah, I think on the question of Europe and North America, I think the issues now are, you know, we're sort of using a very gross number in terms of bills and the underlying issues are in, you know, given the volatility OEM to OEM in those bills and what's going on the quarter to quarter. It's kind of a, you know, a bit of a choppy comparison. I think on a full year basis is a better way to look at our relative performance in Europe and North America. We'll be in a position to provide an update on that for 19 at the investor day. So some of the my only point is we have a big pipeline of penetration projects in Europe and North America and fully expect on a sort of let's call it even a medium term that we will outgrow those markets by a minimum of two to four points. But some of the last things that have gone on the last six quarters, both from the standpoint of how different individual OEMs are reacting to some of the current environment and how the supply chains react to those OEMs reacting. There's some sort of real volatility that I think sort of mucks up some of the ability to see through the underlying progress. But we track our penetration on a per vehicle basis with each of the OEMs and on that basis feel really good about our ability to continue to penetrate at a rate well above market all around the world.
Thanks guys.
Your next question comes from John inch from Gordon has it. Your line is open.
Morning everybody. Hey,
John.
Hi guys. Michael just a quick clarification. The repo is going from 1.5 to 2. Is that delta 500 to offset the 135 of the divestitures you announced or yes that's correct. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, so that's so let me just spend a second on that. So kind of the our estimate for surplus capital for the year is 1.5 billion. That's currently allocated to share repurchases. Think of those as kind of the core share repurchases. And then there's an incremental 500 million to offset the EPS or the earnings that went away with those three divestitures. And to the extent that there are hopefully there are further divestitures this year, we will adjust that share repurchase number accordingly. So we could end up at a number that's higher than what's on the page today.
Got it. God Michael, as overall demand growth, you know, presumably begins to come back once we get past some of these China issues in this year. And your spending probably dials up a little bit consistent with what other companies might be doing. How are you feeling about your confidence level of maintaining or how should we think about, say, the hundred basis points of enterprise initiatives that actually came in the past when growth was better in the environment? Is it one of those things where maybe the you get better improvement because of the contribution benefits from improved growth, but enterprise initiative benefits sort of dials back a little bit because of the spending or, you know, how would you think of the mix? Yeah, I suppose.
Yeah, I'll sort of piggyback on part of what Michael said earlier, which is, you know, the enterprise initiative visibility that we have is really about one year forward. So that those are discrete projects, certainly underneath a broader strategy that is largely around two things at this point, strategic sourcing and continued improvement in the quality of our practice of 80 20 across the company. And so what we are saying now is we've got another point in front of us in 2020 that certainly I can say with confidence that that's not the end of it. But we will continue to have that as some additional, you know, sort of fuel to the profitability story here for a while. The other thing I can tell you is on is on sort of the incremental contribution from organic growth as it accelerates. You know, the best I think way I could frame that is I don't see any way we don't generate somewhere in the range of 30 to 35 percent incremental contribution from every dollar of organic growth. Over and above enterprise initiatives.
That's helpful. That helps. Yeah, no, it definitely helps. Just lastly, Scott and Michael, what would you say your top personal priorities are for ITW to accomplish maybe as we look back in a year on 2020? If there's a way to sort of frame that out.
You want us to go individually? Michael's going to say he's going to want to upgrade the quality of a CEO. I think we're on it. I think the biggest thing that we've got to continue to do that is the thing we've been, you know, certainly been the largest part of our focus for the last, I'd say, two years now is really continue to accelerate our focus or not just our focus, but our execution on organic growth. And I, you know, in this kind of environment, it's certainly, you know, hard to see the inner line progress. But I can tell you that, you know, all of us get up every morning thinking about our, you know, our vice chair, Chris, or really Michael and I, and every one of our AVPs get up every morning thinking about what we're going to do today to help to continue to get this company towards our full potential from an organic growth rate standpoint. I think the, you know, the other activities around the enterprise initiatives are there's a lot of potential there. Those are certainly things that need some level of attention to continue the momentum for sure. But ultimately, I feel really good about both the structural and strategic things we're doing from the standpoint of organic growth acceleration. And, you know, I don't think that changes in 2020, regardless of what the macro is doing at the moment. Yeah, I know
I might as exactly the same. I would just add, John, that, you know, at Invest Today, we're always going to spend a lot of time on this topic of organic growth, including we'll give you a progress update. If you recall on the number of divisions that are in that ready to grow and growing category defined as consistently growing above market, you know, we're not going to share those numbers with you. And you'll see we made steady progress in 2019. And we expect to, you know, as we execute on some really focused plans in 2020 to continue to make progress on that. So we'll share those metrics with you. And we'll also give you some real divisional examples, because that's really where this work is taking place to give you kind of some insights to what Scott's talking about. You know, the whole company is focused on getting the organic growth rate going. And we'll give you a lot more detail on that when we get together in March.
I mean, the way you talked about Instron last time was very helpful. So, yeah, very, very much looking forward to it. Thank you very much. Bye bye.
Good.
Your next question comes from Jamie Cook from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.
Hi. I think most of my questions been answered. Just clarify, Kate, or I guess two questions. One, you know, on the welding side, I appreciate, you know, your guide. Just wondering, you know, how you think about your organic growth guide relative to sort of what we saw in the 15, 16 time period and why we shouldn't be concerned. You know, what you're seeing in the market to give you confidence that it couldn't be worse than that. And then my second question, just given all the restructuring that you guys have done and obviously done a great job improving your margins, but assuming the markets were weaker, is there any change if your sales declined on how we should think about decrementals? Thanks.
Yeah, I mean, I think on the restructuring, maybe I'll start with that. I think, you know, we'll see how the year unfolds. And, you know, if market conditions deteriorate, similar to what we did last year, we'll pull forward some of these enterprise initiative projects specifically related to our 80-20 front to back pipeline. I expect we'll play it the same way in 2020. You know, welding, I think, you know, difficult comps. I'll start there. You know, that's a business that was up, you know, 10% in 2018 and slightly down in 2019 at current run rates. You know, we're estimating, you know, down two to plus two, and that's really as much as we know at this point. We know that in all of our businesses, regardless of what the environment throws at us, we will react accordingly and manage the cost side of the equation as we always do, like we did in 2019 and 2020 will not be different. But I don't have a better, we don't have a better crystal ball than you in terms of what welding might look like other than, you know, we're using current run rates and... And the underlying
activity is
far
from terrible in terms of the amount of... Yeah, I think there's an assumption going on. We saw a pretty big pullback in cap spending and welding in other places in 2019, but I think our assumptions for 20 are certainly not for an improvement in the capex investment side of that. But I think steady state is a reasonable assumption given the underlying input we're getting from our customers that we're seeing in terms of the actual, you know, sort of consumption of welding consumables, et cetera.
Thanks. I'll let someone ask a question. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Joe Ritchie from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Happy Friday.
Morning.
So my first question, I guess, I'm trying to understand what comprises the low end of your guidance since it would imply deceleration in earnings at a time when you're expecting, you know, growth to be a little bit better and for margins to still be there.
Well, I mean, I think, like I said earlier, we're in a pretty challenging demand environment. And, you know, in the guidance range, what we try to do is account for a wide range of possible scenarios. I think the biggest swing factor here will be the, you know, the overall demand environment. And so if things remain where they are, you know, we'll be likely closer to the midpoint. If things accelerate from a demand standpoint, we'll be at the high end or above. And if things slow further, we'll be at the lower end. So I think that's really the best answer I can give you. The remainder of the items, you know, the initiatives, those are we've got, you know, clear line of sight, as I think Scott said earlier, to all the projects and activities that will generate those savings. We know what the share repurchase program in terms of share count will do. You know, currency, tax, we're using the rates that we gave you. And so I think those are there's a lot less variation around those. The swing factor here is really the overall demand environment. And in the near term, this situation in China that needs to be sorted out. And so we're keeping a close eye on that. So that's probably the best I can give you.
Okay, that's helpful, Michael. And maybe my quick follow up here is I'm thinking about the cadence, both from a growth and from a margin perspective. Is the expectation as we kind of start 2020 that growth remains negative and then turns positive as the year progresses? And then specifically on margins, you guys front-end loaded your restructuring last year. How should we think about that 40 basis point impact in 2020? You're going to front-end load 2020 as well?
No, that's not the current plan on the restructuring. I think it'll be more kind of equally spread throughout the year. If the demand environment deteriorates, we can obviously adjust. I think on your first question, so as you appreciate, we don't provide quarterly guidance anymore. I think if you look at kind of historically at how organic growth and margins and EPS kind of plays out through the year, if you look at historical averages, you can get pretty close to a reasonable scenario here. I think in Q1, we have this added uncertainty around China. So we'll have to see where the organic growth rate ends up. And then I think on margins, typically what you see in Q1 is some margin improvement year over year. And then sequentially Q2, Q3 gets better. And then Q4 is slightly lower. So if you look at these historical trends, Joe, I think that's pretty informative as you think about 2020.
Okay, thank you.
Your next question comes from Stephen Fisher from UBS. Your line is open.
Thanks. Good morning. I know that the commercial construction piece of your construction business is not the biggest, but you've had some helpful and interesting perspectives on that in recent quarters. I'm just curious what your view is at this point and what you're seeing and assuming going forward on the commercial piece.
Yeah, so the commercial business can be a little lumpy on a quarterly basis. Really, they're related to the timing of projects. So up 5% in the quarter was certainly one of the better numbers from that business. I think if you look at the full year, the business construction, the commercial side is actually down low single digits. And so I think we expect at current run rates, it'll be similar to that in 2020. So I wouldn't expect a significant acceleration in 2020. And again, the Q4 number at 5% is at the high end of what this business typically does.
Okay, that's helpful. And then just to follow up again on welding, where does the current run rate of business put you within that range of minus 2 to plus 2? I know you said it's one of the businesses where you're assuming a wider range of outcomes. So just curious where it puts you in that range, because it does seem like there could be some additional headwinds there. So I'm also wondering if within that consumable piece that's keeping it relatively steady overall, are there some of the drivers that are more positive and some that are more negative?
Well, I think to answer your question, what we try to do is bracket kind of the midpoint of what the run rate would suggest for 2020, adjust its typical seasonality. So that's probably the best I can give you for welding.
Okay, so our capital goods to consumable ratio in welding is 60.
Yeah, so I think, as you know, our product mix, our geographic mix is quite different than some of our peers in this space. So we are more weighted on the equipment side. That's where the technology is. That's where the higher margins are relative to the consumable side. And we're more weighted towards the North American market, which represents almost 80% of our business.
And there's no, within that segment, the end markets that are driving the demand there, any that are up and any that are down, or you're all seeing them kind of moving in the same direction?
No, I think the industrial side, so think more heavy equipment. There's certainly some, you know, some contraction in demand there down low single digits. I think the commercial side, which is more the smaller businesses, personal users, that's more flattish at this point. And I think we gave you oil and gas earlier was, I think, down 2%. And so that's probably as much color as I can give you on welding.
Okay, thanks very much.
Our last question will come from Nigel Coe from Wolf Research. Your line is open.
Thanks guys. Good morning. Thanks for having me in. Sure. I see you've kept a lot of ground here. So I want to keep this kind of fairly high level. So, you know, I think we're now in the eighth year of, maybe seventh, eighth year of the enterprise initiatives, and obviously it's been very successful. It seems like most of the benefits really come through on the SG&A line in the last three or four years. You talked about strategic sourcing as a big kind of driver this year, Scott, and one or two other things as well. But do you think that we're now at a level where the benefits will come more in the gross margin line? And maybe on top of that, do you think there's more scope to take down SG&A below 16% going forward?
Well, I think, Nigel, you know, I think that so far the contributions from 80-20 and sourcing have been fairly equally divided. I think on a go-forward basis we may see a little bit more impact on the VM side. But, you know, I think overall the important thing is what we talked about earlier. You know, another solid 100 basis points this year from enterprise initiatives. What the exact geography will look like, you know, we'll see as the year unfolds. Maybe a little bit more, like I said, on the variable side of things. But overall what's really encouraging is every segment continues to execute and identify projects. You know, just look at Q4, you know, the range of contribution here is from 80 all the way to 200 basis points and overall 130 basis points in the fourth quarter. So that's probably as much as... Yeah,
I think, you know, the only thing I would add is the way this gets executed, we're not going after some ratio on the P&L. We're simplifying business processes. We're improving how we execute in terms of, you know, certainly from the standpoint of productivity and efficiency, but also benefits around how we serve our customers. So none of it is that says, okay, this project, you know, or the focus now is SG&A. The focus is how do we better support sort of the quality pieces of each of these individual businesses. And so it's hard for me to even think about your question in the sense of, you know, sort of where in the geography on the P&L this is, you know, we're simplifying and improving the effectiveness of the overall performance of the business. And it certainly is going to adjust the ratios on the P&L as a result. But it's, you know, I'm sitting here kind of trying to think about your question, and it just is kind of outside of how it actually happens. We improve our practices and we generate outcomes in terms of, you know, we focus on the top line and the bottom line. And ultimately, you know, to improve the bottom line, those ratios all have to get better in terms of margin. But ultimately, it's not really focused at
a
particular slice of the cost structure. So maybe that books it up even further, but that's all I can offer.
Yeah, no, the ratios are an outcome, not an input. So I think I understand that. And then just a quick follow on. And this is I think it's definitely for Mike on the inventory. So the 40-bips adjustment, that's a LIFO charge, is that correct?
Yeah, I mean, it's really it's the mark to market of the inventory, given that raw material costs have come down. So as we adjust the standards lower to reflect the lower raw material costs, that's the that's the impact that you're seeing.
OK, I've got a CPA, but inventory accounting has always escaped me.
So I can promise you will provide a lot of detail in the 10K that should satisfy even the most advanced CPAs amongst us.
Yeah, I'm saying that about CPA, but just conceptually, the lower raw materials flow through the price cost line. And then we've got a mark to market at year end. Is that sort of just a very simple way to think about it?
In very simple terms, that's how it works.
Yes. Yeah, great. Thanks, Mike.
All right. Thank you.
We have no further questions. I turn the call back over to Ms. Fletcher for closing remarks.
OK, thanks for joining us this morning. I know it's a busy day for everybody. If you have any follow up questions, just reach out and give me a call. Thank you.
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