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spk09: Good morning. My name is Rob and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the ITW third quarter earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, again, press the star one. For those participating in the Q&A, you will have the opportunity to ask one question, and if needed, one follow-up question. Thank you, Karen Fletcher, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin your conference.
spk11: Okay, thank you, Rob. Good morning, and welcome to ITW's third quarter 2022 conference call. I'm joined by our Chairman and CEO, Scott Santee, and Senior Vice President and CFO, Michael Larson. During today's call, we will discuss ITW's third quarter financial results and our updated guidance for full year 2022. Slide two is a reminder that this presentation contains forward-looking statements. We refer you to the company's 2021 form 10K and subsequent reports filed with the SEC for more detail about important risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. This presentation uses certain non-GAAP measures, and a reconciliation of those measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is contained in the press release. Please turn to slide three, and it's now my pleasure to turn the call over to our chairman and CEO, Scott Santee.
spk14: Thanks, Karen, and good morning, everyone. In what remains a very dynamic and challenging operating environment, we were pleased with our Q3 performance. On the top line, we delivered 13% revenue growth with 16% organic growth from our base businesses. While we did see some softening in channel inventory reduction actions in our businesses serving the construction, auto aftermarket, commercial welding, and appliance markets, five of our seven segments delivered double-digit organic growth, led by automotive OEM up 25% and food equipment up 23%. With regard to margins, we were glad to see our incremental margins in Q3 return to our normal 30% plus level for the first time in five quarters as the impact of volume growth, enterprise initiatives, pricing actions, and some moderation in the pace of input cost inflation drove incremental margin of 39% and a 130 basis point improvement in operating margin in our base businesses. We've lost roughly 250 basis points of margin due to price costs during this period of rapid inflation, which we fully expect to recover over time once the current inflationary environment stabilizes. And it was certainly good to see a nice, solid first step in that direction in Q3. On the bottom line, strong growth in margin performance resulted in gap EPS of $2.35, up 16% versus Q3 of last year, And that 16% growth includes 13 cents of negative impact from currency. Excluding currency, earnings per share were up 23%. Looking at our current performance, our decision to stay invested in our long-term strategy and in our people during the pandemic and the quality of our team's execution of our win-the-recovery strategy coming out of it are fueling the strong organic growth and financial performance that we are currently delivering. While the economic outlook is becoming increasingly uncertain, demand remains solid across the majority of our business portfolio, and as a result, the company is well-positioned to deliver a strong finish to what has been a very strong year. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Michael, who will provide more detail on the quarter and our updated guidance. Michael.
spk15: Thank you, Scott, and good morning, everyone. In Q3, revenue grew 13% to $4 billion, a strong organic growth of 16%. the MTS acquisition contributed 3% to revenue. Foreign currency translation was a 6% headwind compared to a 4% headwind last quarter. And despite $0.13 of year-over-year EPS headwind from foreign currency translation, GAAP EPS was $2.35, an increase of 16%. Excluding MTS, incremental margin in our base business was 39%, which, as Scott said, was a welcome return to our normal historical incremental margin rates. As a result of our strong revenue and margin performance, operating income increased 16% to $983 million, which was an all-time quarterly record. Operating margin was 24.5%, with operating leverage of almost 300 basis points and 110 basis points of enterprise initiatives. Excluding 60 basis points of margin impact from the MTS acquisition, Operating margin expanded 130 basis points to 25.1%. Free cash flow was solid at 612 million, an increase of 46% versus Q2 and 12% year-over-year. The conversion rate of 84% is lower than our typical Q3 performance as we remain committed in the near term to intentional working capital investments to support double-digit organic growth, mitigate supply chain risk, and sustained service levels to our key customers. Finally, share repurchases in Q3 were $500 million, and our effective tax rate was 24% versus 21% in the prior year. With that, let's turn to slide four, and starting with organic growth by geography, we delivered growth in the mid-teens across all major geographies, led by North America, up 17%. Europe, which represents about 23% of our sales, grew 14%, led by automotive OEM up 26%, and food equipment up 15%. China grew 15%, led by test and measurements and electronics, up 32%, and automotive OEM was up 29%. Price-cost was accretive to income in Q3 and slightly dilutive by 40 basis points to margins. As we've said before, our business teams around the world have done an exceptional job of adjusting price to offset cost increases throughout the most significant inflationary cycle in over 40 years. And should the pace of raw material cost inflation continue to moderate, we expect price costs to be accretive to income and slightly accretive to margin in Q4. As Scott mentioned, throughout this unprecedented two-year inflationary cycle, the company has absorbed as much as 250 basis points of margin dilution impact from price costs. which we expect to fully recover over the succeeding six to eight quarters after input prices stabilize. Moving on to the segments, automotive OEM delivered strong organic growth of 25%, with North America up 21% and Europe up 26%. China was up 29%, which included some sequential recovery from the lockdown impact in Q2. When looking at these year-over-year growth rates, keep in mind that the comparisons are against the Q3 last year when the chip shortage led to a low point for auto production. We continue to make good progress on our content per vehicle growth as evidenced by our year-to-date organic growth rate of 9% compared to auto builds of 7%, in line with our long-term market outgrowth target of 2 to 3 percentage points. Consistent with our guidance all year, we do not expect a meaningful improvement in the chip shortage situation impacting automotive production until next year. And we continue to take a more conservative approach to our guidance, which assumes that automotive production essentially remains around current levels through the balance of this year. And as we've said before, as supply chain issues eventually get resolved down the road, we remain confident that the automotive OEM segment is well-positioned to be a very meaningful contributor to the overall organic growth rate of the enterprise for an extended period of time. And as that plays out, we also expect that the automotive OEM segment returns to its typical historical operating margin rates in the low to mid-20s. Turning to slide five, food equipment delivered strong organic growth of 23%, as North America grew 30% with double-digit growth in every major category and the end market. Growth in institutional markets was 50% plus, with strength across several categories, most notably lodging. Restaurants were up around 40%, and retail growth was in the mid-teens. International revenue grew 14%, with Europe up 15% and Asia Pacific up 9%. Test and measurement and electronics revenue grew 29%, with organic growth of 17%, as test and measurement grew 20%, and electronics was up 14%. Growth was broad-based with continued strength in semiconductor and CapEx spending, as evidenced by organic growth of 13% in the Instron business. Moving on to slide 6, welding grew 14% organically with equipment up 13% and consumables up 15%. Industrial was the standout with organic growth of 32%. The commercial side of the welding business, which sells to smaller businesses and individual users, was down 10% due to lower demand and inventory destocking in the channel. However, due to the strength on the industrial side, North America still grew 14% and international grew 12%. Sales to oil and gas customers were up 12% in the quarter. Operating margin improved 150 basis points to 31.5%, which was a new record for the welding segment. Polymers and fluids grew 8% organically, with polymers up 21% on continued strength in industrial application. Softening demand due to higher gas prices and the impact on consumer discretionary spend impacted the automotive aftermarket business, which was up 2%. Fluids was up 5%, and overall North America grew 5%, and international was up 14%. Construction delivered organic growth of 17% with continued strength in North America, which was up 35%. U.S. residential grew 42%, and commercial was up 17%. That said, we did see some signs of slowing toward the end of the quarter, and we expect that to continue in Q4, which we have reflected in our updated guidance. The international side of construction is slowing, with Europe down 1%. Australia and New Zealand were up 7% against an easy comparison. Specialty growth was essentially flat as product line simplification activities resulted in the elimination of a product line in one of our consumer packaging businesses. Excluding PLS, the segment would have been up 3%. Demand in our appliance components division slowed, which we have reflected in our updated guidance. On a geographic basis, North America was down 2%, and international grew 4%. Okay, let's turn to slide eight for an update on the year. And starting with the top line, we're raising our full year organic growth guidance to 11 to 12% due to the strength of our Q3 organic growth performance and projecting current levels of demand, which remains strong across most of our businesses. But we are also anticipating further slowing in the end markets we talked about, including global residential construction, automotive aftermarket, commercial welding, and appliance components that combined represent about 20% of total company revenue. The MTS acquisition is expected to add 3% to revenue, and at current exchange rates, currency translation will reduce revenue by 5%, resulting in total revenue for the year up 9% to 10%. For Q4, we're well positioned to deliver a strong finish to a very strong year, with organic growth of approximately 10% and gap EPS growth of about 40%. In Q4, and consistent with our previously announced plan to divest certain business units, we completed the sale of a division within the polymers and fluids segment with an estimated after-tax gain of $0.45 per share. We have included this Q4 gain in our updated four-year guidance. And per our usual process, we have narrowed the range for the year with one quarter to go and updated our guidance to reflect current foreign exchange rates, which results in additional foreign currency headwind versus our prior guidance. So, as a result of including the gain on sale and updating guidance with current foreign exchange rates, our updated full-year GAAP EPS guidance range is 945 to 955. We're projecting operating margin of approximately 24% for the full year, which includes approximately 100 basis points contribution from enterprise initiatives, about 200 basis points contribution from volume leverage, an estimated 100 basis points of negative margin impact from price cost, and about 50 basis points of margin dilution from the acquisition of MTS. We expect free cash flow conversion of approximately 80%, which, as we've talked about, is below our typical 100% plus conversion rate due to the intentional near-term working capital investments that support the company's double-digit revenue growth, mitigate supply chain risk, and sustain customer service levels. And finally, share repurchases are now expected to be $1.75 billion for the full year, an increase of $250 million versus prior guidance. Looking forward, we're obviously not immune to the macro challenges and uncertainties that may lie ahead. But through the execution of our enterprise strategy, we've positioned this company to deliver top-tier results in any environment, as reflected in our differentiated performance at the depth of the pandemic and in the very dynamic and challenging conditions that have characterized the recovery over the last two years. We remain confident that the combination of the powerful competitive advantages we derive from ITW's proprietary business model, our high-quality business portfolio, and our team's proven ability to consistently execute at a very high level, was well prepared to continue to outperform in whatever economic conditions emerge in 2023 and beyond. With that, Karen, I'll turn it back to you.
spk11: Okay, thanks, Michael. Rob, let's open up the lines for questions.
spk09: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of Scott Davis from Milius Research. Your line is open.
spk16: Good morning, Scott and Michael and Karen. I'm not very good at math, but just thinking through this with your guidance on the full year on price cost, I think it implies that you're actually going to be in meaningful positive territory on price cost in Q4. Am I reading that right?
spk15: That is correct. So we are going, we're expecting that if inflation stays where it is, and so based on the known increases and decreases, and based on the price that we expect to realize in the fourth quarter, that price cost will be accretive on a EPS basis, and also for the first time, in a while, accretive on a margin basis as well.
spk16: Okay, that's super helpful. And how do you, I mean, you know, it seems like we're walking into a construction recession, but how do you guys, I mean, are you planning, how do you plan for that given 80-20 and just the business model that you have? It's not like you're going to go do a bunch of restructuring, but how do you get ahead of that so that you can limit the impact of it?
spk14: Well, we've talked about this before, but one of the fundamental elements of 80-20 is that we have a very flexible cost structure. So we do a lot of outsourcing upstream. We want to assemble. We want to control the manufacturing elements that really matter from the standpoint of control of quality, control of delivery. But we don't necessarily have to bend all the metal. We don't have to necessarily do all the upstream work. And so what that gets us fundamentally, in fact, we prefer not to, and what ultimately that gives us is a relatively flexible cost structure. So we are a read and react company. You know, our businesses are going to respond to whatever the demand is that sits right in front of them. We've talked about that before. We don't do a lot of forward forecasting. We are producing today what our customers bought yesterday. And as demand rates start to decline in places like construction, then those adjustments will take place real time. Okay.
spk16: That's a helpful reminder. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. Good luck.
spk09: Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Tammy Zakaria from J.P. Morgan. Your line is open.
spk07: Hi. Good morning. How are you? Good.
spk05: Good morning.
spk07: So I have two quick ones. The first one is, can you comment on which end markets you're anticipating further slowdown, meaning the 10% implied fourth quarter organic growth? Are you currently run rating above that, but you're anticipating further slowdown and hence you're guiding to about 10%?
spk15: Yeah, that's correct. So this is not our typical run rate. This has been adjusted. with some anticipated further slowing in the end markets that we talked about.
spk07: Are you able to share like what the current run rate is?
spk15: It is higher than the 10%. Got it.
spk07: Got it. Okay. Okay. That's helpful. And then... The second one, can you comment on the price versus volume you saw in the third quarter? Because the last time you raised organic growth guidance earlier this year, I think you had mentioned that you saw some volume pick up. Did that sustain? Like what's the expectations for price versus volume in the fourth quarter?
spk15: Yes. So as you know, Tammy, we don't report price and volume separately. But what I think we can tell you is that we are seeing in Q3, we saw meaningful volume growth across the company, including particularly in, if you look at the strength in auto, food equipment, test and measurement, you're not gonna put up numbers like that without a meaningful contribution from volume.
spk07: Got it. And you expect volume to sort of sustain in most of these end markets in the fourth quarter as well?
spk15: Yeah, I think that's a reason. Obviously, this is a very dynamic environment, but there is a lot of strength in the businesses that I just talked about that more than offset some of the slowing we're seeing in about 20% of the companies. So I think we're really well positioned for a strong finish here in Q4. And if you look at the implied guidance, know we're looking at organic growth like we said double digit we're looking at margin improvement of more than 100 basis points um gap eps growth of 40 15 excluding the divestiture gain that we talked about earlier so a really strong finish to what's been a very strong year for the company okay perfect thank you so much sure your next question comes from the line of andy kaplowitz from citigroup your line is open good morning everyone
spk01: Andy? Scott, if I may be just focusing on construction for a second. Last quarter, you mentioned some potential incremental weakness in Europe and Australia. It seems like those are hanging in there. Obviously, North American residential up 42%. You talked about a little bit of weakening. So is this just strong share gains for ITW that have held up these businesses within construction? I know you mentioned you saw some slowing late in the quarter. Maybe give us more clients at a rate of that slowing going forward.
spk15: Well, I think what we've seen is primarily a slowdown on the residential side, which is about 80% of our business. And we talked about some softening on the international side here on our call last quarter. And so we did see Europe down 1%. I think that's pretty broad-based. You know, UK, continental Europe at this point, given some of the challenges, that's probably what you would expect. Australia and New Zealand is also slowing here. And as the comps get a little more difficult, you're going to see those growth rates start to come down. You know, I think in North America, there's still a fair bit of, obviously, strength in the business. And then late in the quarter, we're really starting to see the order rates starting to come down on the residential side.
spk14: So, yeah, I think the only thing I would add is that it is among the most interest rate sensitive and markets that we serve. And so you're seeing in the housing start data and a lot of other things that, you know, the rapid pace of interest rates rising has certainly started to bite in the housing markets. You know, I'll just point to the fact that it's, you know, remains a very strong, very profitable business for us. And it points to just the value of the diversified portfolios. We're going to see some some pressure in some places, but we've got plenty of other places that are more than picking up, and that's really by design. That's how we're trying to position the company, ultimately, to outperform in any environment.
spk01: Totally understand. And then maybe just backing up, what you're seeing across your industrial businesses, I mean, you talked a lot about the consumer businesses. Obviously, most of those businesses in the 20% are consumer-facing. Have you seen any incremental weakness in In your CapEx type businesses, are they generally holding up?
spk14: Not yet.
spk01: Easy enough. Thanks, guys.
spk09: Your next question comes from the line of Joe Ritchie from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
spk02: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. uh so nice to see uh nice to see the incremental margins xmts come back uh just given the comments that um that you're making around uh price costs and turning positive if inflation kind of holds at these levels and we're closer to peak inflation uh would you expect to continue to achieve you know the same type of incremental margins going forward i i think it's reasonable to assume
spk15: that our incremental margins will be a little bit higher than our normal range, just given the recovery on price-cost that we talked about. So assuming, again, Joe, that from a – on the inflation side that things stay where they are or continue to moderate, then that would be a reasonable expectation.
spk02: Okay. Okay, great. And then you mentioned, Michael, that, you know, 23% of your business in Europe, obviously there's a lot of concern out there as we head into the winter on rising energy costs and, you know, potential recession in the region. I know that you guys, you know, have given already some color around trend, but just maybe anything else that you can kind of tell us about that region and then specifically, you know, from a cost perspective, how that impacts your business?
spk15: Well, I think there's certainly a reason to be a little bit more concerned about Europe, just if you look at the macro picture. I think the fact is our businesses are performing at a really high level right now. And so if you just look at Q3, I'll just go back to a little bit of commentary on Europe specifically. We had six segments growing between 9% and 26%. And so double-digit growth in five of the seven segments, and only construction was down one. And it's not all auto. If you take out auto, Europe still grew 10%. I think, obviously, we expect those growth rates to moderate here in the fourth quarter. But I think we're really well positioned in Europe to deal with, you know, just like the rest of the company, deal with whatever is ahead. And if we have a little bit more softness maybe in Europe, maybe we have a little more strength in other parts of the world. And that's kind of how the company is set up, as Scott said. We'll read and react. We'll deal with whatever's ahead of us, but we're confident that we'll continue to outperform on a relative basis.
spk10: Okay, great. Thank you.
spk09: Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook from Credit Suisse. Your line is open.
spk06: Hi, good morning, and congrats on a nice quarter. I guess my first question, I know on the top line you addressed the trends that you were seeing in construction. I was surprised a little bit on the margin in the quarter. So if you could first provide a little color around that, that would be helpful.
spk15: Yeah, Jamie, it's all price, cost, and construction. So a little bit more headwind here than in some of the other parts of the company. And so I will still say that 25.7% operating margin in construction is not too shabby at this point. But still, you're right. Relative to prior year, we're down due to the price-cost dynamic.
spk06: Okay. And then I know you didn't want to answer in terms of as we're thinking about the organic growth, which is the prize on the upside. I know you don't want to answer what you're seeing in terms of price versus volume, but is there any update you can provide on which segments you're seeing the most success in terms of gaining market share and how sustainable you think this market share is going forward? Thank you.
spk15: Well, I think from the beginning in terms of the sustainability, so one, we're confident that we are gaining market share across the portfolio and the kind of the guidance was only strategic long-term market share gains and not opportunistic kind of one-time orders from new customers. So we've really focused on serving our 80 customers as we call them, our best customers, better than anybody else and because of our window recovery positioning, we are doing that. And as a result of that, gaining market share. I mean, it's hard to, you know, we have 83 divisions, so it's hard to point to, you know, specific areas. But if you just look at our overall, at the enterprise level, organic growth of 16% in the third quarter, I think relative to other industrial companies, that'll probably compare pretty well.
spk10: Okay, thank you.
spk09: Your next question comes from the line of Joe O'Day from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
spk04: Hi, good morning. Good morning. Can you talk about the raw materials and source components waiting within COGS and then what you anticipate in terms of the timing of seeing, you know, each of those start to sort of flow through with maybe a more favorable situation in the P&O?
spk15: Yeah, so... If I understand your question. So we're currently running at about three months on hand. We're typically running at two months on hand in terms of inventory. And as supply conditions here begin to normalize and we're going to see a return to normal levels in that two months on hand. When exactly that happens is difficult to predict, but we are starting to see some signs that supply chain is improving. So I think it's reasonable to assume that once conditions normalize, it'll take us about six to eight quarters to get back to two months on hand. And obviously, just like our conversion rate is below our historical typical levels at this point, they're going to be above, you know, for that period of time as we benefit from significant working capital release. When exactly that plays out is difficult to say. It's not all going to come back in one quarter. I mean, we've built this up over two years. It's going to take some time to get it back out again. But we're confident we've added the right level of inventory, and it's really put us in a great position to serve our customers, mitigate supply chain risk, and like we said, take market share.
spk14: I think just generally, I think the question was more in terms of our cost of goods, what percentage of those are material costs? Correct me if I'm wrong.
spk04: Yeah, just kind of, no, yeah, so all that was helpful and I guess related to it is just with raw mats coming right, will raw mats flow through pretty quickly? Oh, okay. I think as a component that you source, will you get costs down on that, or do you think that's a trickier dynamic?
spk14: Well, there's a lot of factors that go into the last part of your question. I think the simple answer in your first one is that, you know, the percentage of material as the material cost percentage as an overall versus the overall COGS is going to vary. But let's just say roughly 60, 65%, 35% freight, labor, other, you know, other elements of the cost structure, if that helps.
spk04: Yep. Okay, and then I want to ask one about the fourth quarter margin, excluding the divestiture. I'm getting something like a 50 basis point sequential decline from 3Q to 4Q. If that's accurate, can you just help with the bridge? I assume there's a little bit of sort of sequential decremental on lower revenue, but then price cost should be more favorable.
spk15: um you know just any other items to kind of consider in that bridge yeah i think if you look at historically we typically q3 is our highest quarter and we go down in q4 the primary driver is that there is just less shipping days in the fourth quarter so i think this year there are 61 shipping days in q4 there were 64 in the third quarter and so that's really the the main driver here um on eps Obviously, implied is slightly lower than what we just did in Q3, and the delta there is the foreign exchange piece. Got it. Thank you.
spk09: Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Fisher from UBS. Your line is open.
spk05: Thanks. Good morning. Just wanted to clarify on the construction side of things. You mentioned the slowing in Q4 on the U.S. residential piece. but i didn't hear any follow-up comments on on the commercial piece is that expected to slow too well usually residential is kind of the leading indicator so we just haven't seen it yet okay yeah okay so maybe that would be something more like a 2023 I guess related to that, have you done any analysis to kind of look at the various stimulus programs that have been put in place and kind of to assess how that might end up flowing through your businesses?
spk15: No, we haven't really. If you have any great ideas, send them over. But we're a short cycle company. We read and react to what's in front of us. And Trying to predict what the government's going to do, I think, has not really been a winning equation for us anyway. It may work well for others, but not in our case.
spk05: Okay. And just one clarification maybe on the last question about the margins in Q4. I guess, you know, are there any particular segments that you anticipate margins actually improving in the fourth quarter or any that stand out kind of one direction or the other?
spk15: I think the fourth quarter looks a lot like the third quarter, except the organic growth rates are coming down. And so from a margin standpoint, it's pretty close to the third quarter.
spk10: Okay. Thank you very much.
spk09: Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Volkman from Jefferies. Your line is open.
spk12: Hey, good morning, guys. Sorry, I may be beating a bit of a dead horse here, but I just wanted to make sure I get this right because it feels like there's a lot of declining prices in various inputs from commodities to transportation, even energy. Are you seeing any of your input costs actually declining yet?
spk15: Yes, we are. I mean, we saw a meaningful decline here in Q3 from Q2, and we expect to see the same thing in Q4.
spk12: Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. And then just curious, can you update us on where you are with the various divestitures? Should we be expecting more here? Are you kind of ramping that back up, or is it just kind of whenever it happens?
spk15: I think there is maybe one more potentially here in the near term. and then we'll have to assess the remainder and whether now is a good time to move forward with those. But I think our views haven't changed in terms of the portfolio and the raw material that we need in order to continue to deliver the type of results that we're delivering. And so we have about a handful of businesses that we had flagged for potential divestiture. We just completed one, maybe one more to go, and then the balance we'll kind of reassess in the new year.
spk12: Got it. Thank you.
spk09: Your next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell from Barclays. Your line is open.
spk00: Thanks very much and good morning. Maybe one element I just wanted to dial into again was around sort of inventories and the cash flow outlook. So the conversion only around, I think, 80% now this year, which is obviously some way below your very high I think, Michael, you were quite guarded as to the pace of when that cash flow conversion comes back up. So maybe help us understand how you see inventories at the customer level, the pace of your own inventory liquidation, and how you're thinking about capital spending within the cash flow.
spk14: Yeah, I'll maybe start on the first part with regard to inventory, and that is that we haven't seen enough stability yet on the supply chain side to make us comfortable that we can start backing off. So our first priority is to preserve our ability to serve our customers. And so at this point, we are still in the mode of keeping the inventories where they are as we start to see things. become more, let's call it, reliable and consistent there, then we'll certainly start making a move. But as of right now, we're not in the mode of starting to reduce inventories.
spk15: Yeah, so it's not a matter of whether or not we're going to benefit from working capital coming back down to normal levels. That we're sure of. We just don't know when. And in the near term, we're absolutely committed to what Scott talked about, which is intentional working capital including inventory to support, you know, double-digit growth and significant market share gains. So we'll update you if and when that changes, and then we'll let you know what we think exactly how it might play out from a free cash flow standpoint. And there's a question on CapEx. Well, CapEx, I mean, I think we've always funded every good project inside of the company, including during the pandemic, and I think that's going to continue. You know, we're really fortunate that we – are not a capital intensive business um not you know we're pretty asset light business model as scott described earlier and so um at at maybe you know less than two percent of sales uh capex doesn't suck up a significant amount of our of our total cash flow so we're we're very comfortable with continuing to invest in the business as we have done um for many years including throughout the pandemic
spk00: Thank you. And then just my follow-up would be on the demand outlook in test and measurement and electronics. Very good growth there in Q3. There's obviously a lot of noise at different customers on electronics in particular within that division, but you're still putting up mid-teens organic growth. So maybe sort of help us understand some of the exposures, you know, in that piece. And do you think strong growth is sustainable, again, given what's going on in terms of a lot of customers in, you know, consumer electronics, semiconductor equipment, semiconductor devices, you know, how you're managing to grow at this rate?
spk15: Well, yeah, so we think that the growth is sustainable. We've not seen anything to suggest that it's slowing down. We're obviously a big beneficiary from all the growth on the semi side of things, but also on the CapEx side with our Instron business, which I think you're familiar with, we're seeing a double-digit growth. Everybody's electronics business, I think, is a little bit different. I think when I just look at the businesses in there, including electronic assembly, contamination control, The pressure-sensitive adhesives were still showing really solid double-digit growth. North America up 18, international up 16. So, you know, there's still some supply chain issues, but I think the team has done a great job staying on top of those and gaining share. And so we feel very good about the outlook for the test and measurement electronics business.
spk00: Great. Thank you.
spk09: Your next question comes from the line of Meg Dobre from Baird. Your line is open.
spk03: Yeah, thank you. Good morning, everyone. Michael, just want to go back to make sure I have this correct. The implied fourth quarter guidance, you said it was going to be down sequentially relative to Q3. Can you be a little more specific as to what the midpoint implies? And then I'm kind of curious, as we're thinking about the year-over-year bridge relative to 21, I mean, last year in the fourth quarter, we had a 200 basis point hit from price-cost. This year, it seems like we're going to be soundly positive. So I'm sort of curious how we bridge that and then think about the incremental volume and also whatever is going on in terms of your internal initiatives that are flowing through.
spk15: Yeah, I don't know, Meg, that I can tell you something I didn't say already. You know, I think if you take our full-year guidance and the fourth quarter kind of implied, as we said, you know, organic growth of about 10%, solid incrementals in our normal range, maybe a little bit higher than that. Operating margins improved more than 100 basis points. on a year-over-year basis, you know, we would expect another 100 basis points from enterprise initiatives. Price-cost goes from negative to slightly positive from a margin standpoint, and also positive, accretive to income, as I said. So those are kind of the high-level view on the fourth quarter. And again, we're not as We've adjusted our run rates on the top line, which is a little bit different than in prior years. We are just wanting to be a little conservative, hopefully, and account for some of the softness we're seeing in about 20% of the company, but also incorporate a lot of strength in the businesses that we talked about, including auto, food equipment, tester measurement, welding. And so that's maybe, those are kind of the key elements of the fourth quarter.
spk03: No, I appreciate that. I ask because I'm also not very good at math. And, you know, as I'm kind of looking at your guidance here, to me, it looks like you've raised your revenue by call it 300 million. You've reduced your operating income margin by 50 bps. That's more or less neutral to operating income. Yet EPS came down 15 cents on a core basis. So I'm trying to understand if there's something below the line that's going on here that we don't. full appreciation for.
spk15: I think I said this earlier, Meg. The reason why we're taking the EPS number down is incremental foreign currency headwind by incorporating current foreign exchange rates like we always do. So that's what's accounting for the EPS adjustment.
spk10: All right. Well, I'll leave it there. Thank you.
spk09: And your final question comes from the line of David Rosso from Evercore ISI. Your line is open.
spk13: Hi, thank you. You mentioned earlier your capital spending businesses are not yet seeing a slowdown. I assume we're getting close enough to where you've had some conversations with those customers about their 23 planning. Are you getting capital budgets for 23 that are also very supportive of solid growth, or is that very much a 90-day type comment? even though you would think capital intensive businesses must give you better visibility than a quarter at a time.
spk00: Yeah, go ahead.
spk14: I was going to say, David, it's a little early in the planning cycle for us in terms of 23, number one. Number two, I would say given our sort of traditional delivery and lead times, which are relatively short, we don't get a lot of forward visibility even in our CapEx businesses. So, You know, regardless of what anybody has to say in terms of their outlook for the year, that's going to certainly be a number that's going to move around. And our sort of core operating MO is that we're going to produce based on what orders we're getting today. We're not going to, you know, sort of bite on the forecast on how optimistic or pessimistic. And we have the flexibility in our systems to do that. So I don't have a lot of forward. You know, coming back to our businesses and our customers, we don't have a lot of input. in terms of strong points of view one way or the other at this point.
spk13: I appreciate that. And a quick follow-up on the M&A environment, the divestiture, obviously a nice gain there. Can you just give us an update on how you're looking at further divestitures and M&A versus obviously you bumped up the share repo?
spk15: Yeah, so I think I said earlier we have one more potential divestiture that we're working through. And then we have three that are kind of in the pipeline that we're going to spend a little bit more time on next year and determine whether now is the best time to sell those businesses. They're all performing at a high level, significantly better than obviously pre-enterprise strategy. And so it's just a matter of timing on those divestitures. You know, on the other side of this, we talked about the M&A pipeline on most of these calls. I mean, nothing's really changed. I mean, I think to the extent we find acquisitions that are a good fit for us strategically, which really means that they can grow at, you know, four to five percent organically over a sustained period of time. We have significant margin improvement through the implementation of the business model, and we can, and the valuation is reasonable in the sense that we can generate a rate of return that makes sense for for the company, then just like we did with MTS, when those opportunities come along, we're definitely going to lean in. And I think we've called our posture kind of aggressively opportunistic. So when those come along, we don't have a lot of those, but when we do see them, we're definitely going to lean in hard, just like we did with MTS. And there's nothing in the pipeline here in the near term is what I can offer.
spk13: That's helpful. Thank you very much.
spk15: All right. Thanks, David.
spk13: And thank you for participating in today's conference call.
spk09: All lines may disconnect at this time.
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