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5/8/2025
Please stand by, we're about to begin. Hello, and welcome to the Janus International Group first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Currently all participants are in a listen only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator's assistance during the conference, you may press star, then zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Ms. Sarah Masiak, Senior Director, Investor Relations of Janus. Thank you. You may begin Ms. Masiak.
Thank
you, operator, and thank you all for joining our earnings conference call. I am joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Ramey Jackson, and our Chief Financial Officer, Ansem Wong. We hope that you have seen our earnings release issued this morning. We have also posted a presentation in support of this call, which can be found in the investor section of our website at janusintl.com. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's call may include forward-looking statements. Any statements made describing our beliefs, plans, strategies, expectations, projections, and assumptions are forward-looking statements. The company's actual results may differ from those anticipated by such forward-looking statements for a variety of reasons, many of which are beyond our control. Please see our recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which identify the principal risks and uncertainties that could affect our business, prospects, and future results. We assume no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, and any forward-looking statement made by us during this call is based only on information currently available to us and speaks only as of the date when it is made. In addition, we will be discussing or providing certain non-GAAP financial measures today, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS. Please see our release and filings for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure. On today's call, Ramey will provide an overview of our business. Anson will continue with the discussion of our financial results and 2025 guidance before Ramey shares some closing thoughts and we open up the call for your questions. At this point, I will turn the call over to Ramey.
Thank you, Sarah, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all for joining us today. I'm pleased with our start to 2025 with results mostly in line with our expectations despite ongoing macroeconomic volatility. Our team continues to execute well in this challenging environment, maintaining our focus on operational excellence and discipline capital allocation while positioning the business for long-term success. The strength of our business model has enabled us to navigate these headwinds effectively while continuing to invest in the future. With that, let me start by highlighting a few key themes related to our first quarter results. First, despite ongoing market uncertainty, we're seeing growth in our backlog and continued stability in our pipeline. Second, we're making progress on our cost reduction plan, which is yielding tangible benefits. Third, we continue to demonstrate financial strength with robust cash generation and discipline capital allocation. And finally, we believe we are well positioned to navigate the current tariff environment. For the first quarter of 2025, we delivered revenue of 210.5 million, down .3% compared to first quarter of 2024. Total self-storage saw a decrease of 23.1%, given a decline in volume associated with the uncertainty in the economic and interest rate environment. Our commercial and other sales channels saw a decrease of 1% driven by a softness and rolling sheet door market, partially offset by a contribution from our TMC acquisition completed last May. Our NOCI smart entry system continues to gain traction in the market, with 384,000 installed units at quarter end, representing sequential growth of 5.2%. We're excited about the momentum we're building in this business and see opportunities for further growth as customer adoption of NOCION continues in 2025. While customers remain cautious about their liquidity and capital deployment in the current environment, we are confident in the underlying demand for self-storage solutions. The restructuring initiatives we implemented in 2024 are progressing well, with our structural cost reduction plan on track to deliver approximately 10 million to 12 million in annual pre-tax cost savings by the end of 2025. These actions are designed to improve margins, simplify our organizational structure, and enhance our operational efficiencies. From a financial standpoint, we continue to demonstrate the resilience of our business model. Our excellent cash flow generation and balance sheet have provided us the financial flexibility to make a voluntary prepayment of $40 million on our first lien term loan and repurchase .6 million shares for a 5.1 million under our share repurchase program during the quarter. At quarter end, we had 16.3 million remaining on our share repurchase authorization. I'd like to take a moment to address tariffs and the potential expense impacts to Janus. While the bulk of our steel and material inputs are sourced domestically, we do have some exposure to components sourced from areas that we expect will be impacted by tariffs. We have dual sources for many of our components, which coupled with our inventory on hand, allows us to mitigate much of our exposure to tariffs in 2025. At this time, we do not have a lot of money to spend on our products. We estimate the total potential expense impact related to tariffs for 2025 to be in the low single digit millions. At the current expected tariff rates beyond 2025, we estimate the potential ongoing annual impacts to be in the range of 10 to 12 million. We anticipate that our productivity and commercial actions will provide mitigating effect against these impacts. As we look ahead, we remain confident in the long-term fundamentals of our business. We expect the self-storage industry to continue to benefit from strong underlying demand drivers and believe there's significant opportunity for our R3 business as consolidation across the self-storage industry, coupled with the average facility age exceeding 20 years, will lead customers focusing their capital allocation on existing properties. As an industry leader in self-storage solutions, our strong balance sheet, exceptional cashflow generation, and suite of innovative offerings positions as well to deliver attractive long-term shareholder value. Now I'll turn the call over to Anselm for a detailed review of our financial results and updates to our 2025 guidance. Anselm.
Thanks, Remy, and good morning, everyone. As Remy highlighted, we continue to navigate a challenging macroeconomic environment and are pleased to deliver results that were largely in line with our expectations. In the first quarter, consolidating revenue of 210.5 million was .3% lower as compared to the prior year quarter, with declines in all three sales channels. Together, our self-storage business was down 23.1%. New construction was down 25.5%, while R3 was off .3% for the quarter. The decline in revenues for new construction was almost entirely due to a decline in volume associated with macroeconomic uncertainty and sustained high interest rates impacting liquidity, causing some customers to adjust project timing. The R3 decline was driven by a nearly 50% decrease in retail big-box conversions and facility expansion activity partially offset by increases in door replacement and renovation activity. For the quarter, the impact to organic revenues was driven roughly 10% by price and 90% by volume. In the first quarter, the international segment saw total revenues increase by 6.5 million, or .2% compared to prior year. The change is attributable to increased volumes as a result of normalizing local market conditions compared to prior year, which was negatively affected by the UK recessionary period starting late fiscal 2023 and impacting most of fiscal 2024. Due to the international business' lower margin profile, this had a negative impact on the company's overall adjusted EBITDA margin. Our commercial and other segments saw 1% decline in the first quarter driven by market softness for rolling sheet doors, largely offset by contribution from the TMC acquisition. First quarter adjusted EBITDA of $38.4 million was down .1% compared to the first quarter of 2024. This resulted in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.2%, a decrease of approximately 790 basis points from the prior year period. The decrease in profitability was due to lower volumes impacting our ability to leverage fixed costs as well as impacts of geographic segment and sales channel mix. In the quarter, we realized approximately 1.5 million in savings associated with the previously announced cost reduction program, and we expect to realize approximately 10 to 12 million in annual pre-tax cost savings by end of 2025. For the first quarter, we produced adjusted net income of 17.7 million, a decrease of .6% from the prior year, and adjusted EPS of 13 cents. We generated cash from operating activities of 48.3 million and free cash flow of 41.9 million in the quarter. On a trailing 12 month basis, this represents a free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income of 170%. Capital expenditures in the quarter were 6.4 million. We finished the quarter with 217.1 million in total liquidity, including 140.8 million of cash and includes on a balance sheet. Our total outstanding long-term debt at quarter end was 557 million, and that leverage was 2.3 times, well within our target range of two to three times. Aided by our strong balance sheet and cash position to start the year, and consistent with our capital allocation priorities during the quarter, we repurchased 0.6 million shares for $5.1 million as part of our $100 million share repurchase program. At quarter end, the company had 16.3 million remaining on its share repurchase authorization. We also made a voluntary prepayment of 40 million on our first lien term loan, which will lower our overall interest expense for the year by an estimated 2.2 million. The annualized impact is expected to be 2.7 million. Now moving to our 2025 guidance. Based on our first quarter results, current visibility into our end markets and current expectations of the direct impacts from tariffs, we are reaffirming our full year guidance for revenues and adjusted EBITDA. We continue to expect revenues to be in the range of 860 million to 890 million, and adjust the EBITDA to be in the range of 175 million to 195 million, reflecting an adjusted EBITDA margin of .1% at the midpoint. As we look at the cadence of results for the year, we reiterate our expectation for results to strengthen the back of 2025. Additionally, as the year progresses, we expect our customers to begin shifting their focus towards R3 initiatives, and facility owners focus more on optimizing and upgrading existing properties over new construction. As a reminder, the margin profiles for new construction in R3 are similar, so we are not sick about moves between the two sales channels. New construction is expected to remain soft in the first half of the year, as we work through customers' extended project timelines. We continue to anticipate being near the higher end of the free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income target range of 75% to 100% in 2025. Please refer to the presentation we have posted for additional details on our key planning assumptions for 2025. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Ramey for his closing remarks.
Ramey. Thank you again, Anson. Despite the challenges we face in the first quarter, I'm encouraged by the positive signals we're seeing in our business, including growth in our backlog and the continued stability of our pipeline. While the broader market environment remains in flux, our strong balance sheet in cash flow generation gives us significant flexibility and optionality to continue investing in our business while seeking out and delivering a creative shareholder value enhancing opportunities. The strategic alignment and resilience of our business model are reflected in our reaffirmed 2025 guidance. We believe we're well positioned to deliver long-term value for all stakeholders. A big thank you to our employees, customers, and shareholders for your continued support. Again, thank you for joining us. Operator, we can now open up the lines for Q&A.
At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star two. Once again, that is star one to ask a question. We'll take our first question from Jeff Hammond with KeyBank. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys.
Morning,
Jeff. So, you know, just listening to the public self-storage reads, it seems like fundamentals are stabilizing or maybe moving a little off the bottom. I know rates are still stubborn, but just wondering, one, what's the latest that you're seeing on kind of the pacing of some of these projects' delays starting to break free and move through the backlog? And two, just how would you characterize order activity in the pipeline behind it?
Yeah, great question, Jeff. We're seeing the move, like we saw in Q4, that projects are moving in the pipeline. Unfortunately, still some of the stubborn rates that you mentioned. In terms of pipeline and backlog, we're seeing just a steady, small growth in both of those categories as well. So I think pretty good indication that stuff is moving.
Yeah, just to add to that, Jeff, there's no question. We were looking at kind of the churn rates kind of pre-pandemic around 300 days. They're currently sitting around 500 days, so there's no question that it's maintained. It's been pushed out and seems to be
fairly consistent moving forward.
And just pipeline?
Yeah, both. Both orders
and pipeline have been on an uptick since the beginning of the year. Super happy with
where we are there, and it continues to grow.
Okay, and then just on, appreciate the color on tariffs, just on price, I think in your guide, you were originally saying, I think, price down, high single digits. It was only 2% down in one queue, and then I'm assuming you're probably seeing some steel inflation, some of the tariff inflation. So I'm just wondering how you're thinking about price downs relative to 90 days ago, and then just, is the offset lower volumes or maybe that's an upside situation?
Yeah, Jeff, you think about the pricing when we began in India, it was for the full year, and we said it would blend into the year as we bleed off some of the older projects and some of the newer ones. So that's why Q1 wasn't as impacted as much
from a pricing point of view. Okay, and then
just real quick on the tariff number, just help me understand the low single digit million this year versus the 10 to 12 million kind of on a full year run, right?
Yeah, if you think about it, we have, as you know, how we buy our inventory, we have a decent amount of inventory already for the year. So it's not as, you're not getting a full year impact for that. So when we actually looked at our inventory positions as well as some of our mitigating actions, that's kind of how we got down to a much smaller impact for 2025, and if you look into next year on an annualized basis, that 12-ish million there is if there's no mitigation actions at all, and obviously with our normal process in terms of sourcing things, we're currently looking at renegotiating some of those items as well as looking at other sources in addition to just general productivity to mitigate that for 2026.
Okay, thanks. Thanks, Jeff.
We'll go next to Phil Eng with Jeffreys. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, I guess following up on that question on pricing, certainly better than expected, maybe that's timing and that's just gonna kick in a little more fully in the coming quarters, but help us kind of think through what you're seeing on the pricing front. Certainly, steel prices have moved up, you have some level of hedging, maybe that's helpful, but is that an opportunity for pricing to get better perhaps in the back half or maybe an opportunity to kind of pick up some share just given your competitors or smaller competitors are probably a little less equipped to kind of navigate through some of the supply challenges and certainly tariffs as well?
Yeah, so great question, Phil. I think if you look at it from a price point of view, there's a bit of timing, like you said, that's why the impact is not as much. I think if you look at steel, I think the suppliers have tried to kind of raise the price and I think ultimately it's gonna be dictated by real demand and the demand hasn't been there and that's why you see it fall back to a lower level than what the initial indication was. So it'll be, look, like we've always said about with our steel, we've got a good process how we buy it and we're managing it and if it does step up at the end of the year, we have the ability to put in commercial actions to mitigate if we need to.
Okay, that's a great color. And then on the R3 side of things, a few things, right? I mean, the retail conversions has been a drag. When does that come out? And then I think, Ramey, your comments suggested that perhaps some of your customers are pivoting from new construction to R3. Any like real tangible signs that kind of come through in the back after later this year, just based on orders and bidding and how does that kind of ripple through? And any color on some of the rebranding efforts that's out there from some of your larger institutional customers?
Yeah, so we're, you're right, I think it's getting really low, the retail conversion piece of it. We've always said that there'll always be some amount of it but you're right, that's kind of why you saw the slow, the negative in terms of R3 slow up much better this quarter and what I would expect going forward is that it'll be at a steady state there because of retail conversion. I think Ramey probably just can address the other question in terms of kind of what we're seeing, but I can tell you when we're looking at our backlog right now, we're starting to see incremental increases in that R3 piece where our customers are starting to put more projects of R3 and obviously, they come in various size but we're starting to see that starting to increase. Yeah, just to
follow up, specifically on the rebranding, that opportunity is well underway. We are obviously partnered with our customers to accommodate that and so that's, you've heard me talk about that, that's a multi-year opportunity specifically on the large one that we, that you know of and to Anselm's point, we're seeing others more institutional operators accelerate that way of remix, full renovations, a little bit of expansion and then office upgrades. So that's been a pleasant surprise in terms of the way that they're allocating capital, but I will say on the non-institutional side of the business, they're pretty much on the sidelines from any capex expenditure at this time.
And Ramey, any color on how this kind of progresses and ramps up, backlogs getting better on R3 is great, but how does that kind of ripple through? Does that dial up in the back half or this is more of a 26 event?
No, it does. It certainly dials up in the back half. As you know, these are projects that we've been working on for a while, have great visibility, the way the R3 program works, I mean, there's touch points all throughout the process and so we're super comfortable with the timing because we play a big part in that in terms of tenant notification and just the project management side of it. So our expectations, it will certainly accelerate in
the second half. Okay, appreciate it, Coller.
We'll go next to Dan Moore with CJS Securities.
Hi, this is Will on for Dan. Last quarter you started to see signs of stabilization in commercial. Has that continued or has tariff and economic uncertainty impacted that momentum?
Yeah, it certainly has stabilized. We're seeing some growth in certain product lines, some opportunity in the carport and shed as we've previously announced. We positioned a door center kind of in the hub of where that product line is manufactured. So we're taking aggressive steps to gain share there. I would say the only thing that is relatively flat and it kind of came through on our numbers this quarter would be the commercial sheet door, which is typically, its application is in metal buildings. So as you probably know, that sector is depressed, I would say probably at a bottom right now. So any movement upward will certainly get the benefit of that moving forward.
Thank you. And then in self storage, a lot of small and mid-size customers started to land projects as long as a year ago. Of those projects that have been on the shelf for six to nine months or longer, are you starting to see more cancellations or conversely, are you starting to see more start to move forward?
Yeah, we're starting to see more starts move forward. That's the best way to think about it. In terms of cancellations, we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary from cancellations of the backlog.
Thank you. Thank you. We'll go next to John Lovala with
UBS.
Good morning guys, thanks for taking my questions as well. The 10 to 12 million of pre-tax cost savings from structural cost reduction still remains in place. You guys realized about a million and five in the first quarter. How should we sort of think of the cadence of those savings through the year, and what are some of the projects that are gonna allow you to kind of drive those savings?
Sure, thanks for your question John. If you think about the cadence, we should probably be at a full run rate at the end of Q2 for those savings. There are various items, obviously in our cost goods sold in terms of resetting our labor force for the volume that we're delivering, and then also in our GNA lines that we did and some leases that we no longer needed. So it's on pace there, and there's opportunity for incremental that we're seeing as we work through them as well.
Got it, and then on the NOCI installed units, 384,000, I think that's about 5% sequentially, which is good, but it seems like the growth has kind of moderated a bit over the past few quarters. How are you kind of thinking about it through the remainder of the year and sort of the longer term of adoption?
Yeah, I think it's still going pretty strong for the new product, NOCION. I think as we always talked about is, as the install base gets bigger, then obviously the sequential growth is gonna get a bit small because you got a much larger base, but I think we're still bullish on the opportunity for the rest of the year and going into next year because the new product is really hitting a lot of the expectations with the customers we're looking for.
Yeah, fantastic, thank you guys. Thanks, John.
This does conclude today's question and answer session. I will now turn the program back over to Ramey for any additional or closing remarks.
Thank you everyone for joining us today. We appreciate your support of Janus International and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day.
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