Kaman Corporation

Q1 2022 Earnings Conference Call

5/2/2022

spk02: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Command Corporation Q1 2022 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you need to press star 1 on your telephone. If you require any further assistance, please press star 0. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Carrie Bear. You may begin.
spk00: Good morning. Welcome to Command's first quarter 2022 earnings call. Conducting the call today are Ian Walsh, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, and Jamie Coogan, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, please note that some of the information discussed during today's call will consist of forward-looking statements setting forth our current expectations with respect to the future of our business, the economy, and other future events. These include projections of revenue, earnings, and other financial items, statements on plans and objectives of the company or its management, statements of future economic performance, and assumptions underlying these statements regarding the company and its business. The company's actual results could differ materially from those indicated in any forward-looking statements due to many factors, the most important of which are described in the company's latest filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the company's first quarter 2022 results included on Form 10Q and the current report on Form 8-K filed yesterday evening together with our earnings release. We also expect to discuss certain financial measures and information that are non-GAAP measures of defined and applicable SEC rules and regulations. Reconciliations to the company's GAAP measures are included in the earnings release filed with yesterday's 8-K. Finally, we posted an earnings call supplement on our website which provides additional context on our financial performance and our outlook for 2022. You can find this presentation at www.command.com slash investors slash quarterly earnings calls. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Ian Walsh.
spk01: Thank you, Carrie. Good morning, everyone. It's nice to have you all with us today for our first quarter 2022 earnings call. I'll start by providing highlights on the quarter and then share some operational and business updates along with some respective innovations in each segment before passing the call over to Jamie to for a more detailed discussion of our financial results. Results for the first quarter were in line with our expectations with lower sales, earnings, and EBITDA relative to both last quarter and the first quarter of 2021. This was primarily due to the timing of K-Max sales and mix of JPF sales. Gross margin for the company increased 120 basis points to 32%, driven by the significant improvement in year-over-year sales and margins for the engineer products segment. Overall, we remain on target to meet our guidance for the full year. Our first quarter, we saw strong demand across the commercial, business, and general aviation markets, led by meaningful order intake for our bearings, springs, and seals, contacts products. In fact, sales to Boeing and Airbus were higher for the third quarter in a row, a solid indicator that airline demand is rebounding. These order increases have contributed to a 23% improvement in our backlog for engineer products since the beginning of the year. The activity seen in the first quarter is encouraging and gives us confidence in the higher sales and improved margins we anticipate over the balance of the year. One of our strategic pillars is to become the best in class at what we do every day as a function of deploying more training and executing against our operations excellence model. I am pleased with the efforts of our highly capable leadership team and workforce to implement the model, which is grounded in rigorous lean and Six Sigma tools. They have worked to improve many of our value streams inside several of our business units, such as our targets for safety, quality, delivery, and cost-out, while improving our working capital. In fact, we have seen promising progress at one of our structure segment sites, where we have achieved double-digit EBITDA margins for the third quarter in a row. There is still significant progress to be made as we focus on delivering improved performance. Now let me highlight the performance for each of our segments and also share some of their respective innovations that will continue to help us grow organically. Our engineered products segment delivered outstanding results with year-over-year sales, adjusted EBITDA, and margin growth in the first quarter, driven by our seals, springs, and contacts products. This strength in medical and industrial demand is expected to continue in 2022, and we have increasing confidence in incremental recovery in commercial aviation. Our employees continue to provide innovative solutions that push the boundaries of application engineering and materials science to meet the needs of our customers. One such technology in our engineered product segment is our miniature bearings for turbo molecular pumps. These highly customized bearings provide superior precision and quality for customers in high-tech industries where ultra-clean environments are required, such as those used in production of semiconductors and solar panels, analysis using laboratory equipment, and application of surface coatings. They are a superior solution for applications that have challenging aspects, such as those with high vacuum, high vibration, limited thermal dissipation, or low dry power. Command aspires to be the global leader in this highly profitable and specialized market within this decade. We talked last quarter about our proprietary titanium diffused hardening process, which provides the benefits of titanium alloys, like extending service, improving hardness and durability, and wear characteristics for a wide range of end markets outside of aerospace and defense. Our team continues to make meaningful progress exploring a variety of medical and industrial applications for this technology in markets such as orthopedic surgery, weapon accessories, and even Formula One racing. Additionally, our ball seal business continues to break internal records relative to their growth and market expansion with their proprietary candid coil springs and seals in applications from the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter to neuromodulation therapies used in the human body. Our precision product segment continues to transform. and we pivot to new technologies and markets. Regarding GPF, we expect lower sales and impact from Mix over time. We continue to focus on filling our DCS funnel and are pursuing several meaningful opportunities that are expected to increase our backlog and extend the life of the program. As we have said during prior quarters, we anticipate offsetting the reduced volume with organic growth in other areas of our business, as well as accretive acquisitions. We've increased our R&D investment within this segment primarily for our air vehicles and are making substantial progress on our autonomous logistics technologies, cargo UAV unmanned aerial system, and KMAX Titan aerial system. We're working closely with the U.S. government and are pleased with the recent support of $7 million in new funding for our autonomous logistics system as part of the 2022 government funding package. We are on track for a demonstration of a full-scale cargo UAV unmanned aerial system the second half of the year. This purpose-built, fully autonomous, medium-lift logistics vehicle is designed to provide cost-effective cargo hauling and be easily deployed inside a standard connex box. Our initial adjustable market is the U.S. Military and Special Operations Commands. In longer term, the vehicle can be used in a wide range of commercial applications, such as servicing oil platforms, search and rescue, humanitarian relief, and middle-mile delivery for logistics companies. We are continuing to seek initial orders for this program through our military customer, and we are evaluating several partnerships with other commercial companies. Our structure segment continues to focus on strengthening their operating margins and seeking new, more profitable work scope that fits our core capabilities. Results for the quarter were lower than both last quarter and the first quarter of 2021. However, we expect sales and margin to improve over the course of the year. As I mentioned, we have seen positive signs of improvement at one of our sites and believe there is significant opportunity for further enhancement. Our team in Jacksonville, for example, continues to make noble progress on the consolidation from four manufacturing plants down to two in order to optimize capacity, manufacturing floor space, and flow. During the quarter, our Vermont facility expanded their medical imaging program through a new partnership with a major new medical equipment manufacturer, and our Wichita facility was recently awarded a prototype contract for sophisticated composite panels to demonstrate our capability for the next generation satellite communication company. Looking ahead, we feel confident that the commercial aerospace market is rebounding. We are seeing durable demand in key end markets, especially in aviation, medical, and industrial, which are expected to benefit our high margin engineer products segment. Precision products will continue to transform. We are streamlining the organization, improving our processes, in advancing new product development efforts in precision manufacturing, sophisticated measuring equipment, and fully autonomous flight. Our structure segment is focused on getting healthier, where we will begin to see the benefits of our operations excellence model. We are enthusiastic for several of our new innovations as we position the company for best-in-class performance. Lastly, we remain disciplined in our approach to M&A and capital allocation. We are in our 52nd consecutive year of dividends, And in April, we announced a new $50 million share repurchase program replacing our prior authorization. Our first priority for this program is to limit future dilution from the issuance of shares under employee stock plan and new compensation structure. We remain focused on making strategic investments. And now, the optionality for share repurchases coupled with the continuation of dividends puts Command in a great position to execute on the path that provides highest return for our shareholders. Now I'll turn the call over to Jamie for a more detailed discussion over financial results.
spk03: Thank you, Ian, and good morning, everyone. Today I would like to discuss our first quarter results for 2022 and provide an update on our outlook for the year. On a consolidated basis, our net sales in the first quarter were $158 million compared to $175 million in the fourth quarter of 2021 and $172 million in the first quarter of 2021. The decline of 7.9% year-over-year was largely due to the timing of KMAX aircraft sales, lower sales on our AH-1Z and composite blade programs, and mix for our JPF program. This was partially offset by increased sales in the commercial and medical markets for our bearings, springs, seals, and contacts products. Adjusted EBITDA in the first quarter was $12.2 million, or a margin of 7.7%, compared to $23.6 million, or a margin of 13.5% in the fourth quarter of 2021. Results were impacted by lower volumes of our bearings sold into military and commercial applications, as well as sales mix for our JPF program. For the year-over-year comparison, adjusted EBITDA decreased 29% and margin declined 230 basis points. The decrease resulted from the timing of KMAX aircraft sales, unfavorable KMAX blade exchanges, and JPF sales mix partially offset by strong sales of our bearings, springs, seals, and contacts into the commercial aviation and medical markets. Now I'd like to walk through each of our segments, beginning with engineered products. Compared to the fourth quarter, volumes decreased in the first quarter primarily for bearing products serving military and commercial aviation end markets. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter was $17.3 million with a margin of 21.2%. Year-over-year results improved significantly with higher demand in medical and industrial markets. Adjusted EBITDA increased more than 50% and margin increased 520 basis points. Sales and gross profit improved on seals, springs, and contacts for aerospace and medical applications, and sales were higher for aftermarket parts. This was driven by the impacts of COVID-19 on commercial aerospace and markets, primarily in the first half of 2021. The demand for our spring seals and contacts, as well as for bearing products, has improved significantly against the backdrop of the ongoing economic recovery. Looking ahead, we expect continued strength in these markets in 2022. Order intake during the quarter was robust, with a backlog increase of 23% since the beginning of the year. The development we are seeing in order rates gives us confidence in the outlook for the full year. Now moving to our precision product segment. Compared to the fourth quarter, results decreased in the first quarter due to lower sales and associated gross profit for our JPF and SH2 programs. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter was $4.4 million with a margin of 9.3%. Year-over-year results for this segment declined from an adjusted EBITDA of $14.1 million and margin of 23.3% in the first quarter of 2021, primarily due to lower KMAX sales, unfavorable KMAX blade exchanges, and JPF sales mix. Additionally, we increased R&D spend for new technologies, primarily cargo UAVs. As we've discussed on prior calls, we are managing our current JPF pipeline and looking to secure additional DCS orders in the near term. We continue to make progress in R&D efforts with our patented height-of-burst sensors, and we are developing new sensor-infusing technologies for our existing family of safe and armed devices. Now moving to our third segment, structures. Compared to the fourth quarter, results decreased in the first quarter primarily due to lower sales volume in our AH1Z program. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter was $289,000, with a margin of 1%. Year-over-year results declined from an adjusted EBITDA of $1.2 million and margin of 3%, mostly due to lower sales in our AH1Z and composite blade programs. This was partially offset by improved volumes and margins in our Rolls-Royce program. We are beginning to see improvements for our structure segment as our team applies our operations excellence model. Best practices from the process will continue to be applied throughout the organization, and we will identify opportunities for further operational enhancements. Our longstanding aerospace customer relationships with Sikorsky and Boeing are important to us, and we will continue to leverage those as well as utilize our technologies for additional medical imaging solutions in order to drive improvements in the financial performance for this segment. On a consolidated basis, gross margin was 32% for the first quarter, a 120 basis point increase over the first quarter last year. We benefited from higher quarterly profitability for our seals, springs, and contacts in our engineered product segment, and we will continue to focus on driving improved performance through lean initiatives and cost reduction efforts. In addition, we were able to pass a certain amount of cost increases as it relates to inflationary pressures and remain mindful of the impact that these will have on us going forward. SG&A increased $1.6 million compared to the first quarter of 2021 to $39.7 million, or 25.1% of net sales. As we discussed on prior quarter calls, we continue to manage costs and seek opportunities to increase efficiencies across our organization. Diluted earnings per share were $0.14 for the quarter, compared to $0.33 in the fourth quarter of 2021 and $0.29 in the first quarter of 2021. On an adjusted basis, diluted earnings per share were $0.15 compared to $0.48 in the fourth quarter. The decline in quarterly earnings per share from the first quarter of 2021 was primarily within our Precisions products segment, with an impact from JPF of $0.17 per share and increased R&D spend for this segment of $0.04 per share. These reductions were partially offset by strong performance from the engineered product segment, which resulted in an increase of 14 cents per share. During the quarter, we had cash usage of $1 million. However, over the last 12 months, we've generated free cash flow of $30 million, driven by strong cash collections and improved working capital management as a function of our focus on operations excellence. Now I'd like to discuss our outlook for 2022. As we mentioned on the fourth quarter earnings call, we expect the cadence of earnings to be weighted towards the second half of 2022. Our results for the first quarter were in line with our expectations, with lower sales and margin for our KMAX and JPF programs partially offset with strong sales into medical and industrial end markets and improving aerospace demand. We are maintaining our guidance for the full year. The strength in the medical industrial markets and increase in orders for our engineered product segment give us confidence in our performance for the remainder of the year. With that, I will now turn the call back over to Ian for closing remarks.
spk01: Thanks, Jamie. Command has a solid foundation with a talented leadership team and workforce and a game plan for improving our processes and performance. We will continue to challenge ourselves to achieve greater and reach top quartile performance in the near future. The lower cost basis that we have been targeting will drive significant improvement in margin as we increase sales. Improvement in demand in the medical, industrial, and aerospace end markets is promising, and we will take advantage of that opportunity to win more profitable programs and expand our market share. Command is a solid strategy and is well positioned to deliver on our priorities. As a reminder of our overarching strategy, we continue to focus on three strategic pillars. We will grow our business through innovation, accelerating investments in our products, facilities, and people. Second, we will continue to be disciplined in our approach to accretive M&A and capital allocation. Third, we will continue driving operations excellence until we are best in class. Executing on this strategy will lead us to top-court financial performance in our segments. All are aimed at improving EBITDA margin, free cash flow conversion, and return on invested capital that lead to exceptional shareholder returns. I'd like to thank all of our dedicated and talented employees around the world who are making our vision become a reality and helping each and every one of our customers to achieve greater. With that, I'd like to open the line for questions. Operator, can we have our first question, please?
spk02: Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press the star, then the one key on your touchtone telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to move yourself from the queue, please press the pound key. Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press the star then the one key on your touch-tone phone. Our first question comes from Steve Barger with KeyBank Capital.
spk05: Hey, good morning, guys. Hey, Steve. Good morning. Sorry I jumped on the call a little bit late, so I missed some of the prepared comments, but just wanted to talk about – some of the guidance. To hit the midpoint of the revenue guide, you need to average $190 million per quarter for the rest of the year. So do you expect revenue to still ramp sequentially, so you're ending the year above $200 million, or are you putting up three more similar quarters to each other, just trying to get a sense for how you see the year progressing?
spk03: Yeah, Steve, we see the year ramping sequentially as we drive sales higher in the back half of the year to be above that $200 in the back half.
spk05: Would you expect, you know, a modest sequential increase in the 2Q and then much bigger quarters in the back half? Or what's the magnitude, just to kind of level set expectations?
spk03: Yeah, that's fair to say, Steve, for sure. And, again, I just want to remind you that, you know, again, the timing of JPF deliveries over the course of the year will also impact the revenue cadence and earnings cadence as well. Right. But just to kind of keep that in mind as well, okay?
spk05: Yep. And just thinking about the segments, I mean, coming in 13% top line on engineered is certainly good to see. Do you expect that that is a strong double-digit revenue contributor through the year?
spk01: Yes, Steve, I do. We've got a high degree of confidence in the performance so far of that group. You know, we ended the year with record backlogs. It's really focused on execution this year, and they know how to do that. And we continue to really kind of see improvements kind of month to month along that. So we do anticipate higher margins there for sure.
spk03: And just to add to that, I mean, the prepared remarks, we talked about backlog for that segment being up 23%. So, you know, it's from year end. So we've seen about a $40 million increase in backlog in engineer products, which, you know, is higher than what we had initially planned for that business. So order rates are filling in very nicely. you know, for that segment over the course of the first quarter, and we're seeing some strong signals, you know, in the first part of the second quarter here that that will continue.
spk05: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, Jamie, when I had dialed in, I just heard you talking about the structure segment, and I think you said that there were tangible signs of improvement or something to that effect. What – I mean, that didn't necessarily flow through into results this quarter. From a financial standpoint, can you talk about, either one of you, just about what you're seeing in structures that's giving you confidence in sequential improvement?
spk03: Yeah, I mean, again, we took a number of restructuring efforts in last year, and those efforts continue to proceed through the first quarter and into the second quarter of this year, which includes a number of items, including facility consolidations, and some workforce right-sizing relative to capacity, so therefore we're better situated. We're seeing those come through, again, in pockets, and Ian had some commentary in his prepared remarks in his section. I'll pass it over to him to maybe brief you on that real quick.
spk01: Yeah, I think there's three kind of categories, if you will, about what we're really looking forward and seeing in the structure side. One is the operational excellence piece. I mean, As I mentioned last year, we really focused our effort on those businesses initially with our operations excellence deployment, getting the training up to speed and all the projects aligned that we're now tracking very carefully. And we're seeing a lot of improvement. So, for example, we're seeing shifts in metrics, whether it's cycle time reduction of 50%, gross margin improvements, right, targeted for some businesses, like we mentioned, you know, in the 90%, you know, improvement. The second part of it is program management. We've had programs, legacy programs, that we've restructured and talked to our customers and gotten fixed, and we've won. The third part is winning new, really more profitable programs. We talked about this satellite program, which is fantastic. We talked about some new medical applications, which is great. And Vermont has had the third quarter of double-digit EBITDA, and that's a business that routinely has performed at that level and higher. So it's really nice to see that recovery for those guys. So that kind of gives us strong confidence in where we're headed with the structures business, which is to really get those folks healthy. And I've talked about before, I mean, structures businesses should be in the high single digits, low double digits type of performance.
spk05: Yeah. Are those programs you just mentioned what you had referenced in the press release last night when you talked about expanding into more profitable, complex structures businesses? Absolutely.
spk01: Absolutely. The other thing, too, you know, we talk about pricing and other things, and structured businesses are longer-term programs and things like that, and it's harder to pass along price. So winning new programs at better margins is outstanding, and that's something that the team has done a really nice job working hard at. And, again, I think you're going to see some nice recovery there in the short term with those businesses.
spk05: All right, thanks. All right, thanks.
spk01: Yep. Thanks, Steve.
spk02: Our next question comes from Seth Fleifman with JPMorgan.
spk04: Hey, thanks very much, and good morning.
spk03: Hey, good morning, Seth.
spk04: Good morning. I joined a little bit late, so I apologize if this came up during the discussion. But when we think about the precision products business and we think about the environment for global defense spending now, How do you think about the opportunities there on SAFE and ARM? And is that landscape kind of changing at all, specifically with regard to JPS? And is it something that's maybe going to evolve slowly over time or something where it's already something where you're having discussions?
spk01: Yeah, the landscape, as everybody knows, has definitely changed. We're seeing the same demand signals from the Defense Department on systems that are, quote, certified, that are at high TRL levels, whether it's stuff in development or existing systems. And in reference to JPF, I think we've had some inquiries and we've made some inquiries just to make sure they understand our capacity and our throughput and ability to respond. It's really hard to predict. quite frankly, if and when and how that will all play out. But we are definitely involved in those communications. And we've made those direct inquiries as well to let them know that we stand ready to support them if needed. And so we'll see what happens. And on the international side? Yeah, on the international side as well. I mean, it's ironic. I think Putin is becoming the best business development person for the entire Defense Department, as well as on the international side. And so And let me give you another example. Like, you know, when you think about what's happening over there, it's not just JPF. We're getting some really nice inquiries. We've already talked to several customers relative to programs that have a KA-32 helicopter that's no longer supported and looking at where our KMAX can play a role, not just on the commercial side, but also we've had requests from the Defense Department relative to our KMAX Titan autonomous capability. So there are some things in work. just don't know how they're all going to play out yet.
spk04: Right. Okay. Okay, cool. And moving on to structures and maybe, you know, stepping back a little bit from the near term, in order for structures to be kind of what, you know, what you want it to be, is there a certain scale that that business has to reach or is the current size and the current programs, you know, program content
spk01: I'll tell you right now that the capability that we have in our structures business is not scale dependent. What I mean by that is we are more specialized in highly complex structures. I can give you examples, whether it's winglets, it's CH47 high-thick composites, tight dimensions on refueling probes, it's satellite panels. This is the type of work that we do very well. And depending on the long-term arrangements or period of performance, that's going to drive much higher margins. So it requires more engineering, requires more work, more tolerances. That's what we specialize in. It's not the big standard build-to-print type of composite work that I think the scale matters. And so I think the teams, whether it's their cost structure, which is SG&A is very strong and very, you know, I think high performance there. It's really about driving those programs in, which we've mentioned a few of those, and executing against them, which the team is doing.
spk04: Right. Okay. Okay. And then if I could sneak in a last one, it looks like based on the release that the sequential decline in engineered products EBITDA was driven largely due to a decline in bearings for, you know, military and commercial aero products. Boeing and Airbus, it seems like sales were up. And so, you know, the implication is that it was either in commercial era outside of Boeing and Airbus or on the military side. And, you know, maybe if you could talk about where that sort of total aerospace bearings, commercial and military, how that migrates through the years, since it seems like that's a key driver of profitability.
spk03: Yeah, no, good question, Seth. And, you know, as we dug in a little bit into the details there, it really is around some regional aircraft sales for the bearings technology that came down. We had some larger packages go out in the fourth quarter of last year to support some of the higher volumes we were seeing in regional aircraft at the end of last year. On the military side, I think it's just timing over the course of the year relative to anything else. You know, we did reference the fact, again, that, you know, backlog for that product is up and order rates are up significantly in a number of areas across that business. So, you know, we still feel really good about where that business is going. And we do expect, even on the bearing side, that to be a little bit more back half weighted relative to the first half of 2022. Great.
spk04: Great. Thanks very much, Kevin.
spk01: Thanks, Seth.
spk02: Our next question comes from Steve with KeyBank Capital.
spk05: Thanks. Yeah. Do you expect that any of these new structures programs that you talked about will benefit revenue this year? Or in general, how long does it take to recognize revenue once you get an inquiry from, say, a new medical program for some product?
spk01: Yeah, it's a mix. I think some of those opportunities will realize this year because they've been in work, quite frankly, since even last year. Others, like we talked about that satellite program, that's just coming in now. And if we win the larger program, which we feel very confident we will, that's starting in 23 and beyond.
spk05: Got it. And so I guess as you think about what you can see in backlog, the new programs coming in, do you expect structures will be up on a year-over-year basis for revenue for 2022?
spk01: For this year, yes, we do.
spk05: Okay. So all three segments should be positive.
spk01: Correct. And that's a great way to think of it.
spk05: And looking at slide 15, you highlighted these mini bearings for turbo molecular pumps. What is the size of that market opportunity? And who are the like, is there a lot of competition in that space? Or is this something that's kind of new and being developed?
spk01: It's been in work with our team. And again, you know, what's really nice about this segment, these are miniature, very sophisticated, complex parts, naturally. The development cycle around these is longer. So we've been working with a lot of these customers for several years to develop this technology in certain applications. Adjustable market, quite frankly, I don't have it off the top of my head, but it's a fairly substantial market just by the nature of what these pumps do because it crosses medical as well as industrial. And again, the sophistication, the size, the miniaturization of it is really what we specialize in. So the team's very excited about this potential opportunity with the turbo molecular pumps.
spk05: Understood. And Jamie, I think you said there was a million dollar use of cash this year, but your guidance is 40 to 50. And I know that you've talked about buying stock to offset share creep, but is there a view right now around capital allocation as it relates to buyback versus, and maybe you talked about this in the prepared remarks, but where are we kind of in the M&A pipeline cycle?
spk03: Yeah, so as it relates to capital allocation, again, we are still focused on organic growth, right, so making investments in the base business to drive organic growth. We are focused as well on accretive M&A transactions, We're going to continue to support the dividend. And again, the share repurchase authorization, it really is designed to offset share creep relative to the plans, right? You may recall we did revamp our executive compensation structure recently to make it equity-based and better aligned with the long-term views of the shareholders, which inherently also increased the number of shares that we issue under that plan. You know, given the cadence of shares, we aren't expecting to make a material amount of purchases, I would say, this year. You know, we had done a number of purchases under our prior program that put us in a good position relative to some of the initial awards underneath those plans, but we would expect that going forward to be able to offset that using the authorization we received from the board.
spk05: Got it. And just... Circling back to the M&A side of things, like has the pipeline increased or diminished? Have you seen books come across your desk that were interesting, but you just couldn't get across the finish line? You know, it's been a focus for a long time. Obviously, we haven't seen any activity. So what's any more color you can give on how that process is unfolding?
spk01: The process is the same. You know, I'll start by saying when we got together, certainly when I joined, we really took a hard look at our criteria and We revamped that and shared that with the board, and they were very excited about kind of how we're really targeting certain things. The activity last year was decent. Multiples were high, as we talked about, and it kind of slowed down at the end of last year. And what we're seeing now is more increased activity, more SIMs and SIPs coming across our desk, and we're evaluating those, and we'll keep you guys posted as things unfold.
spk05: All right. Thanks. Thanks.
spk02: Again, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press the star, then the one key on your touch-tone telephone. And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back to Carrie Bear for any closing remarks.
spk00: Thank you, and thank you all for joining the call today. We will be Having our call for the third quarter later, or sorry, for the second quarter later this summer, and we look forward to talking with you then. Consider the meeting adjourned.
spk02: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.
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